[OpenIndiana-discuss] improving ZFS latency with hard disks
Le me know if ZFS questions should be asked to another group. Problem: A documentation application takes several minutes to open documents containing large numbers of links to images. Aparently, the application is making many separate file attribute queries, so the sum of all the separate disk rotation latencies are adding up. The obvious solution is to move the zfs pool over to SSDs, but since the entire documentation collection is less than 10GB, I was wondering if there was a way to address the problem with RAM. As far as I can tell from the documentation, the ARC and L2ARC are based on recently used data, so it doesn't sound like accessing attributes from all of the linked files to a document would be helped by a larger ARC when the document is first opened. Is there a way I can get more of the proximity files in the cache with any tuning parameters, or even utilize some sort of RAM disk for the files in the directory of concern? Thanks, Dave ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] improving ZFS latency with hard disks
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On 2021-05-16 00:08, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote:
On 16. May 2021, at 06:54, d...@loud-mouth.net wrote:
Le me know if ZFS questions should be asked to another group.
Problem: A documentation application takes several minutes to open
documents containing large numbers of links to images. Aparently, the
application is making many separate file attribute queries, so the sum
of all the separate disk rotation latencies are adding up.
The obvious solution is to move the zfs pool over to SSDs, but since
the entire documentation collection is less than 10GB, I was wondering
if there was a way to address the problem with RAM. As far as I can
tell from the documentation, the ARC and L2ARC are based on recently
used data, so it doesn't sound like accessing attributes from all of
the linked files to a document would be helped by a larger ARC when
the document is first opened.
Is there a way I can get more of the proximity files in the cache with
any tuning parameters, or even utilize some sort of RAM disk for the
files in the directory of concern?
How much RAM do you have, ...?
The machine has 16GB RAM, but I can increase this it will help speed
things
up.
...what is arcstat reporting while accessingthose files?
arcstat: I'm guessing you are interested in ARC hits here, so I ran the
archits.sh script. I started loading a file from the application right
at about the line starting with 79 hits below:
./archits.sh
HITS MISSES HITRATE
246229163217399.87%
40 100.00%
790 100.00%
2700 100.00%
2240 100.00%
2700 100.00%
2650 100.00%
2940 100.00%
2690 100.00%
2730 100.00%
2670 100.00%
2720 100.00%
2650 100.00%
2950 100.00%
2660 100.00%
2290 100.00%
2670 100.00%
2710 100.00%
2680 100.00%
2970 100.00%
234199.57%
2770 100.00%
2700 100.00%
2720 100.00%
2680 100.00%
2660 100.00%
2700 100.00%
2720 100.00%
2650 100.00%
2710 100.00%
2680 100.00%
2970 100.00%
2280 100.00%
2640 100.00%
2670 100.00%
2740 100.00%
2740 100.00%
2930 100.00%
2320 100.00%
2710 100.00%
3010 100.00%
2780 100.00%
2680 100.00%
3110 100.00%
2690 100.00%
2330 100.00%
3130 100.00%
2200 100.00%
2680 100.00%
2170 100.00%
00 0.00%
40 100.00%
blade% cat archits.sh
#!/usr/bin/sh
interval=${1:-5} # 5 secs by default
kstat -p zfs:0:arcstats:hits zfs:0:arcstats:misses $interval | awk '
BEGIN {
printf "%12s %12s %9s\n", "HITS", "MISSES", "HITRATE"
}
/hits/ {
hits = $2 - hitslast
hitslast = $2
}
/misses/ {
misses = $2 - misslast
misslast = $2
rate = 0
total = hits + misses
if (total)
rate = (hits * 100) / total
printf "%12d %12d %8.2f%%\n", hits, misses, rate
}
'
Does this actually mean everything but one request was read from the ARC
for the entire 3 minute documentation loading, so the disk latency has
nothing to do with my problem?
If I am reading this correctly, I guess I need to look elsewhere for the
problem. Maybe context switches for all of the checking the application
is doing?
Are files accessed locally or via NFS/SMB (where from the actual
slowness is > appearing)?
Files are local
First open from slow media is always depending on media speed;
however, the experience also depends on block sizes and fragmentation
- does read ahead have chance to help etc.
With persistent L2ARC, the less actively used data is on L2 (active
data is on ARC), but the L2 wont be empty after reboot. However,
pointers to L2 are also in ARC, with low RAM situation, this may
complicate things even more…
ramdisk versus ssd - I’d go for ssd there.
rgds,
toomas
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
This is a great plan and I will try to help where I can. I would suggest including support for Postfix as well. -- Dave On 1/14/11 1:36 PM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: Hi All, I believe now would be a really good time for us to create our first stable branch of OpenIndiana, given the timing of some developments within the project. Below I've outlined my proposal and I'd love feedback from the community and from OI developers! Obviously as a new project with a small (but growing) developer base, providing support for the whole release isn't feasible - there are literally thousands of packages in the distribution. But we have to start somewhere, so I'm proposing we provide limited support (outlined below) for a set of core packages. * Why? * Prior to the Oracle takeover, Solaris 10 was free to use in production, and for a long time, security updates were provided free of charge. OpenSolaris was also free to use, and updates were available by living on the bleeding /dev edge. People were (mostly) happy. Then Sun hit financial difficulties and discontinued free security updates for Solaris 10. Then Oracle happened, ending the free use of Solaris in production. This has left people wishing to use Solaris technologies on their production servers in a difficult position. They have to pay Oracle, or use distributions that don't provide security updates. Or switch to Linux. There are a great many people who would jump at the chance to use Solaris if there were a production ready version with security and bug fixes provided for free. Indeed, this is what people have come to expect from mainstream UNIX platforms - Linux distributions such as Debian, CentOS, Ubuntu, etc, provide updates free of charge - and this is one of the reasons they have become so popular. We have a real opportunity to capitalise on the situation left by Oracle, to capture server market share away from OpenSolaris, Solaris 10, and give users a migration path other than switching to Linux (which a lot of people are doing). There are a lot of people out there who *really really* want a stable build of OpenIndiana - myself included, and I believe OpenIndiana's best chance of gaining acceptance, market share, and building a thriving development community is by capturing the server market. There is also a risk that if we *don't* do this, we'll become an obscure fringe distribution, like DragonflyBSD. The goal here is to be the *mainstream* accepted de-facto Solaris distribution. Something people talk about and seriously consider using. Solaris contains killer technologies not seen on other platforms; technologies like ZFS, Zones, SMF, DTrace, COMSTAR, Crossbow - I couldn't live without any one of these, and we should capitalise on this while we can. It's also worth keeping in mind that despite warning users that oi_147 and oi_148 were development releases, people are already using it in production environments, myself included, due to a lack of alternatives. The great news is that it has proven to be exceedingly reliable, and I have no hesitation in recommending it for busy workloads. All we need to do is add security updates and critical bug fixes on top and we'll be in a great position. No small feat I grant you, but we can start off small and work our way up. Now is also an opportune time to do this - our next release will be based on Illumos, which has seen rapid development and will involve some integration pain. Some have called for a stable branch after Illumos is integrated, but it could be many months until we have an Illumos dev build suitable for respinning as a stable branch. That's months of lost opportunity. So I say we do it now. /dev builds will continue as normal, the next one will be Illumos based - Desktop users can continue to use our /dev builds, and internet facing servers can use the stable branch. * * What we'd provide * * The release would be aimed for February, and titled "2011.02". It would be based on oi_148. We would only provide the Text Installer and Automated Installer ISOs. We would provide security and critical bug fixes only for: 1. OS/Net (The core OS consolidation) 2. A limited set of server oriented packages that have the greatest usage and attack "surface area". The initial list I can think of includes: - OpenSSL - Sendmail - Perl 5.8.4 - Python 2.6 - Ruby - zip, bzip2, gzip - Apache HTTPD 2.2 - PHP 5.X - MySQL 5.X.X - Postgresql 8.4 - Java - Tomcat - GNU Coreutils - GCC - RSync - ISC BIND - Bash - Curl - wget We should also aim to provide security fixes for any bit of software in the repo that allows an easily exploitable remote access vulnerability or root privilege escalation, although we cannot guarantee to do so as monitoring security updates for over 1000 software
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] About deleting past BEs
On 09/26/17 12:59 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: How to tell which BEs are ok to delete. What is common practice regarding deletion of BEs? (I do know what the `N' and `R' mean and so not to delete them) In my current list of BE's (shown at end of post) I see one marked as backup-1... this is not something I did purposely so must be the result of an update. Is there any reason not to delete that one? If you haven't needed it by now, I wouldn't think you will. I'm thinking I could delte 0-11 including `4-backup-1' without expecting any bad repercussions. Is that about right? Yes. I do notice that 1 and 7 are quite a lot larger than the others (not including the one designated `14 R') and wonder how that happens and if it has baring on what to delete? Depends on activity while that BE was running and the difference in package content between it and the prior one. Larger ones will be expected to free up more space. Dave --- --- ---=--- --- --- beadm list BE Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created openindiana- - 15.2M static 2017-04-09 11:07 openindiana-1 - - 3.58G static 2017-04-09 13:20 openindiana-2 - - 31.7M static 2017-04-09 13:55 openindiana-3 - - 487M static 2017-04-14 00:50 openindiana-4 - - 34.5M static 2017-04-15 11:52 openindiana-4-backup-1 - - 219K static 2017-04-16 13:21 openindiana-5 - - 63.9M static 2017-05-03 06:15 openindiana-6 - - 615M static 2017-05-25 12:00 openindiana-7 - - 1.77G static 2017-07-08 14:07 openindiana-8 - - 223M static 2017-07-13 09:05 openindiana-9 - - 254M static 2017-07-24 10:50 openindiana-10 - - 17.3M static 2017-07-27 12:24 openindiana-11 - - 326M static 2017-08-18 10:04 openindiana-12 - - 16.7M static 2017-08-25 07:59 openindiana-13 N / 6.26M static 2017-09-05 07:57 openindiana-14 R - 78.2G static 2017-09-26 12:41 ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI
On 5/4/2021 8:59 AM, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 5/4/21 à 1:43 PM, Stephan Althaus a écrit : >> >> Hello! >> >> We have "Boot environments" >> >> On every "pkg update" you get a new BE that will be used on next reboot. > > This is just > ... > Is this done by issuing a ZFS snapshot of the whole root partition ? or > is it more granular ? > > If this is done via snapshots, this means writing to an evergrowing file > on disk until the snapshot is removed. So the longer you keep a snapshot, > the bigger the file gets. > Yes, boot environments in the OpenSolaris-derived OS's are implemented using ZFS snapshots/clones of the root datasets. Combined with IPS's optimizations to only update objects that have changed between package versions, you may find that boot environments for an update may not be nearly as large as the initial installation; it all depends on how much has changed. Reclaiming space is as simple as deleting older boot environments when they're no longer needed. It's not at all unusual for a system to have a dozen or more boot environments; some of the more masochistic among us used to have systems with 100 or more. Dave ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Building Ekiga/OPAL with H264/H263 support
Hi, Has anyone successfully attempted the above on OpenInidiana (or OpenSolaris) and can share some build instructions? Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building Ekiga/OPAL with H264/H263 support
On 27/11/10 03:31 AM, ken mays wrote: Ekiga 3.2.7 is built for snv_151 IPS. ~ Ken Mays The question was more if anyone has built from scratch, with H264 support. By default under OpenSolaris the default video codecs in Ekiga are H261 (craptastic) and Theora (great, but not used by all that many other SIP clients). I'm interested in cross-platform video chat with users on Mac OS, but SIP clients for that platform typically have H264/H263 support, not anything else supported by Ekiga on OI. Ideally I'd be able to build Ekiga with H264, perhaps using Murry Blakeman's x264 package. -- Dave Kelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ Love Coffee? http://www.greenbeanhouse.co.nz/ --- On Thu, 11/25/10, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: From: Dave Koelmeyer Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building Ekiga/OPAL with H264/H263 support To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 8:00 PM Hi, Has anyone successfully attempted the above on OpenInidiana (or OpenSolaris) and can share some build instructions? Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building Ekiga/OPAL with H264/H263 support
I don't believe anyone has tried enabling additional codec support in OPAL, but you can rebuild the Ekiga package from JDS by following http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+jds/building and http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/pkgbuild/index.php?title=Pkgbuild_on_OpenSolaris libx264 is in spec-files-extra (under encumbered) and you can import the Ekiga spec files into a local checkout of SFE to build them together. Hi Albert - thanks for this. I may have to call back and ask a few more how-to questions (this is rather new to me) but will give it a crack! Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ Love Coffee? http://www.greenbeanhouse.co.nz/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] openindiana state
On 14/12/10 02:12 AM, Guido Berhoerster wrote: Contributions do not have to be purely technical, e.g. help with marketing including improvements to the main website or documentation would all be appreciated as well and probably speed up development pace. A more specific listing of outstanding tasks regarding this would be neat, perhaps on the wiki? I could certainly contribute to proofing/creating documentation, given enough technical detail by the gurus if need be... -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ Love Coffee? http://www.greenbeanhouse.co.nz/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_148 available
On 18/12/10 12:36 PM, Jon Tibble wrote: Project OpenIndiana is pleased to announce the next development release, oi_148, is available. Congrats and many thanks to everyone involved in this. Looking forward to giving it a spin!! :) -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Poor text antialiasing behaviour in Firefox
Hi,
I posted this over on OpenSolaris.org, but FWIW:
This has always bugged me for as long as I can remember, and I wonder if
anyone knows why.
Firefox 3.6.8 in Ubuntu:
http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/docs/Ubuntu1004Firefox368.png
All headings and text are antialised, and page appears fine.
Now, compare with the same page in Firefox 3.6.12 on
OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana:
http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/docs/oi_147Firefox3612.png
Most text elements by comparison are pretty jagged, but the headings are
particularly ugly.
Interestingly, this is the same page, but zoomed in two increments:
http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/docs/oi_147Firefox3612-zoomed.png
Note that main heading ("DATAZUUL") is now displaying with nicely
antialiased edges.
All the above examples are on stock-standard installs of Firefox, with
fonts settings left at defaults.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Poor text antialiasing behaviour in Firefox
On 20 Dec, 2010,at 04:21 AM, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
* Dave Koelmeyer [2010-12-19 14:13]:
> Hi,
>
> I posted this over on OpenSolaris.org, but FWIW:
>
> This has always bugged me for as long as I can remember, and I
> wonder if anyone knows why.
>
> Firefox 3.6.8 in Ubuntu:
>
> http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/docs/Ubuntu1004Firefox368.png
>
> All headings and text are antialised, and page appears fine.
>
> Now, compare with the same page in Firefox 3.6.12 on
> OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana:
>
> http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/docs/oi_147Firefox3612.png
>
> Most text elements by comparison are pretty jagged, but the headings
> are particularly ugly.
>
> Interestingly, this is the same page, but zoomed in two increments:
>
> http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/docs/oi_147Firefox3612-zoomed.png
>
> Note that main heading ("DATAZUUL") is now displaying with nicely
> antialiased edges.
>
> All the above examples are on stock-standard installs of Firefox,
> with fonts settings left at defaults.
>
> Any ideas?
If you want to get completely rid of bitmaps font in applications
that use fontconfig you can either enable
/etc/fonts/conf.avail/70-no-bitmaps.conf (which is what Ubuntu
does) or put its contents in your ${HOME}/.fonts.conf. For
details see fonts.conf(5)
Hi All,
The workaround in comment 13 here did the trick:
https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=4605#c13
alanc also helpfully provided the following info:
http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=136192&tstart=0
As I understand it, the Opensolaris Extras repository is now closed to new
users, so I wonder if the above workaround or something similar would be a
useful thing to do to ensure a good-looking browsing experience out of the box?
Cheers,
Dave
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Glassfish 2.1.1 on oi_148 - broken? (JCEKS not found)
Hi, I have been running Glassfish 2.1.1 on oi_147 x86 (and OpenSolaris snv_134 before it) with no problems, originally installed from the opensolaris.org IPS repository. After upgrading to oi_148, attempts to start my domain result in the error: "[exec] Security Store uses: JKS [exec] JCEKS not found" Manually downloading the 2.1.1 binary and running the setup procedure results in the same error: "[exec] Security Store uses: JKS [exec] JCEKS not found [exec] CLI130 Could not create domain, domain1" (according to http://glassfish.java.net/downloads/v2.1.1-final.html) Switching back to my my oi_147 boot environment, I can start the domain fine. Has anyone else seen this? Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] merry christmas
On 25/12/10 02:23 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: Merry Christmas and a happy new year to the OpenIndiana team, and a handshake for making Openindiana OS possible:-) +1 looking foward to really making this happen in 2011 :) Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] patchadd: will it be used
On 12/28/10 02:39 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: On 12/28/10 16:47, Alan Coopersmith wrote: patchadd is already obsolete, and was removed from the OpenSolaris distro long ago, thanks for notifying me patchadd is no longer in use. i was under the impression it in some capacity was still in use, because OI has patchadd man page. We hadn't been particularly diligent about removing some of the obsolete man pages from OpenSolaris until fairly recently. OpenIndiana is just not yet caught up to where those removals occurred. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana book
On 12/30/10 01:46 PM, russell wrote: Hi Dave, My brother is going to switch to OpenIndiana in the new year and to reduce the number of "support calls" I purchased the OpenSolaris Bible as a Christmas gift. As OpenSolaris has been dropped, could this book be reworked but targeted at OpenIndiana in the long term as the book is as relevant to OpenIndiana users in the short term. We appreciate the purchases and hope it does help your brother! Right now the future of that book is unclear, but if an updated edition is produced (there is nothing in progress right now) it would certainly have to account for a very different distribution landscape than existed when we were writing it a couple of years ago. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL
+1 to this. Cheers, Dave MATTHEW WILBY wrote: >Hi, > >I know it's early days, but what's the possibility of getting an HCL (Hardware >Compatibility List) page setup on the OI website? This would give community >members a chance to provide information on what works and what does not, and >perhaps share experiences on how to fix/tune certain components specific to >that >hardware. > >With Openindianna moving away from the original Opensolaris code base sooner >or >later the original HCL will start to become out of date. While I don't expect >OI >to maintain a list of 'certified hardware' (yet) if the distribution is going >to >penetrate production environments such a site would prove useful, rather than >the suck it and see approach at the moment. Might also take some of the load >off >the bug submission etc. > >For information, Opensolaris has been removed from the main Sun/Oracle HCLpage >(http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/) but is still accessiblehere >(http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/os/). > >Just a thought. > >Happy new year. > >Matt >___ >OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list >OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org >http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] "Anonymous" users in the OpenIndiana Confluence Wiki
Quick question: I registered an account in Confluence ages ago but from what I can tell, every comment I make (along with everyone else) is not signed by my username, but by an "Anonymous" user. Is this by design? Makes feedback on the Wiki more tedious than needs be. Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
On 16/01/11 03:50 AM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: On 15 Jan 2011, at 14:47, Ivan Wang wrote: Then I am also one of the minority here.. I do use solaris/opensolaris/openindiana as desktop and plan to continue doing so until all is lost. This goes back to my school day sitting in front of ultra1 in the lab. Old habit dies hard. Please continue openindiana's desktop viability as long as possible. Hi Ivan, We will definitely be continuing OpenIndiana on the desktop - please don't panic. The proposal is only for a new stable branch with limited support for server software. The /dev branch will continue as normal, and the project has no intentions of becoming a server only distribution. Hi Alasdair, Thanks for the clarification - these plans all sound good (and exciting!) to me. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
On 01/17/11 05:44 AM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: Hi Gabriel, On 01/17/11 10:07 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: Thanks! A place to start is a place to start, and an stable server release is the most urgent one among all the other options. Great - thanks for the feedback! Some people is talking about the server-desktop question, I particularly liked the old Solaris software groups concept (reduced network, core, end user, entire)... woulnt it be posible to have a non stable distro featuring the full range of up to date software, and a stable conservative one (behind in innovation but ahead in stability) allowing to either just keep the fully suported core of software or to add as well a less supported desktop enviroment?. Wouldnt this be almost same effort, example: Well, the thing is, this is already the case. All people have to do is use the Text Installer ISO (Or the Automated Installer ISO) - this installs a much smaller subset of software which doesn't include the full Gnome desktop software. Effectively the text installer ISO is the "server release" and the Live CD ISO is the "desktop release". Perhaps we need to name them such to avoid the confusion, as it seems a lot of people on-list are confused about this. Unfortunately the Text Installer still installs quite a "fat" install, due to some packaging that needs improvement. Alan Coopersmith pointed us at some bugs on bugs.opensolaris.org related to this which was pretty helpful: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7010355 - splitting tk bindings out of the core python package http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7010324 - splitting X apps out of the core groff package http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6574610 - splitting glib out of the gnome-base-libs package The only differences between a server install and a desktop install are the packages installed, and they're already split up into fairly reasonable incorporations. I think the situation with OpenSolaris only having a graphical LiveCD for so long has led people to think that OpenSolaris and thus OpenIndiana is mainly a desktop OS. So I am starting to think that we should rename the Live CD to OpenIndiana-Desktop and the Text Installer to OpenIndiana-Server. Ideally the graphical installer, Caiman, would let you choose which package incorporations to install. But unfortunately I think it does a "dumb" install from a cpio archive. Perhaps refactoring of Caiman is needed, where the Live CD ships with a pkg repo, starts a pkg server, and does an install from that. Not sure how feasible this would be. Given how complete pkg is, probably not all that hard. We looked into this a little quite some time ago. The problem with doing IPS-based installation from CD's or DVD's is that IPS's data access patterns during package installation are relatively random, not streaming, and so you will get utterly abysmal installation performance (orders of magnitude worse than anything you've ever used) when using physical CD or DVD media. That storage technology just isn't designed for random access. This doesn't apply much if you're using an ISO image as a virtual CD or using USB flash memory media. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
On 01/18/11 05:01 PM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: On 18 Jan 2011, at 18:31, Gordon Ross wrote: Dave Miner writes: [...] Perhaps refactoring of Caiman is needed, where the Live CD ships with a pkg repo, starts a pkg server, and does an install from that. Not sure how feasible this would be. Given how complete pkg is, probably not all that hard. We looked into this a little quite some time ago. The problem with doing IPS-based installation from CD's or DVD's is that IPS's data access patterns during package installation are relatively random, not streaming, and so you will get utterly abysmal installation performance (orders of magnitude worse than anything you've ever used) when using physical CD or DVD media. That storage technology just isn't designed for random access. This doesn't apply much if you're using an ISO image as a virtual CD or using USB flash memory media. Dave Interesting. Thanks, Dave. Yes - thank you for this info, very helpful! One way around that is to do sort of a "two stage" install, where the first stage, running from the CD installs a "bare minimum" system (from a cpio image or whatever, to avoid the problems with poor random-access to the CD). Then for the second stage, boot into the new bare-minimum system and finish the install from IPS, perhaps allowing use of the CD as your repo, or a local copy, or get it off the net... This sounds like something worth exploring. There are a few options here.. just thinking out loud, a possibility would be: 1. Install the minimal base via CPIO 2. If more packages are requested than base, then extract the pkg repo to ram (tmpfs) or local disk 3. Install the additional software requested via pkg This may bump the RAM or Disk space requirements to do an install, but the OS needs a lot of that to run anyway. It will greatly increase both, in my experience, as any interesting package repo would seem to be quite large (multiple GB) and pkg has pretty substantial overhead in generating and executing a plan. Really, you'd probably be better off booting into the installed system before adding more software. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL
I know it's early days, but what's the possibility of getting an HCL (Hardware Compatibility List) page setup on the OI website? This would give community members a chance to provide information on what works and what does not, and perhaps share experiences on how to fix/tune certain components specific to that hardware. With Openindianna moving away from the original Opensolaris code base sooner or later the original HCL will start to become out of date. While I don't expect OI to maintain a list of 'certified hardware' (yet) if the distribution is going to penetrate production environments such a site would prove useful, rather than the suck it and see approach at the moment. Might also take some of the load off the bug submission etc. For information, Opensolaris has been removed from the main Sun/Oracle HCLpage (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/) but is still accessiblehere (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/os/). Anybody wanting to take Matthew's suggestion and run with it? I don't know how to make this happen, perhaps a section on the Wiki or something, but given recent discussion over storage adaptors etc this would be a very useful resource. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox Sync
Hi, has anyone got Firefox Sync on Firefox 3.6.12 working, using oi_147 as the host platform? Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox Sync
On 1/02/11 08:07 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote: On 02/01/2011 12:52 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Hi, has anyone got Firefox Sync on Firefox 3.6.12 working, using oi_147 as the host platform? Cheers, Nope, it might have crypto module issues. If you really want to use Sync better install Firefox 4.0 (latest beta is quite good). It uses JavaScript ctypes based crypto, and doesn't need additional binaries which were needed for Firefox 3.6.x. Ah okay - thanks for that :) -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox Sync
On 1/02/11 09:17 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 1/02/11 08:07 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote: On 02/01/2011 12:52 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Hi, has anyone got Firefox Sync on Firefox 3.6.12 working, using oi_147 as the host platform? Cheers, Nope, it might have crypto module issues. If you really want to use Sync better install Firefox 4.0 (latest beta is quite good). It uses JavaScript ctypes based crypto, and doesn't need additional binaries which were needed for Firefox 3.6.x. Ah okay - thanks for that :) Installed Firefox 4 beta 10 - it is indeed very nice. Sync works as expected as you've advised - cheers :) -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome startup applications on oi_147
Hi, I have an oi_147 x86 system (progressively upgraded from OpenSolaris 2009.06) that for ages now launches a bunch of applications (consistently) on login to the desktop, even though Preferences -> Startup Applications does not contain entries for the apps concerned. "Automatically remember running applications when logging out" in the above preferences pane is unticked. ~/.config/autostart only contains: time-slider-notify.desktop evolution-alarm-notify.desktop codeina-update.desktop On login to Gnome, I get 2 instances of Gedit, 2 instances of VirtualBox, one of Pidgin, and a terminal. Anyone got any ideas about where these are being configured, and how to clear it? :) Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome startup applications on oi_147
On 7/02/11 09:55 PM, Michael Schuster wrote: On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 02:04, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Hi, I have an oi_147 x86 system (progressively upgraded from OpenSolaris 2009.06) that for ages now launches a bunch of applications (consistently) on login to the desktop, even though Preferences -> Startup Applications does not contain entries for the apps concerned. probably obvious so you didn't mention it: have you checked various login scripts/rc files? what you could also do: ssh into the box as a different user before you log into gnome, set up a DTrace script to trace all fork/execs for "your" user, and then log into gnome; wlith some post-processing it should be possible to find out which process is responsible for spawning these apps, and take it from there. HI Michael, Great suggestions, but silly me, I do believe I've found the cause (remoting to the machine in question), a bunch of entries in ~/.config/gnome-session/saved-session, which implies I did actually inadvertently save a session configuration at some stage. Sorry for the noise, Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Enabling Java in Firefox 4.0b10
On 09 Feb, 2011,at 09:55 AM, russell wrote: Hi, I have been running Firefox 4.0 since b6 and found it reliable except for one annoying problem. While my other plugins are working, one that refuses to work is Java. I created a plugins directory in /opt/firefox and have symbolic links to the respective libraries. Has anyone managed to get Java 6u23 working with Firefox 4.0b10? Works for me on oi_147 x86, Firefox 4b10 and Java 6 update 23, yes. I have a plugins directory at ~/.mozilla/plugins Contents of it: 117016 -rwxr-xr-x 1 rootbin 15M 2011-02-04 11:28 libflashplayer.so 117015 lrwxrwxrwx 1 davenz staff 45 2011-02-04 11:27 libnpjp2.so -> /usr/jdk/jdk1.6.0_23/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so Browsing to www.java.com and running the JRE detection utility picks it up correctly. Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] install OSOL 134/sparc fails in LDOM
On 03/ 4/11 04:50 AM, Olaf Bohlen wrote:
Hi,
I want to install OSOL 134 in a LDOM on my T2000 to upgrade to OI 148.
So I got the AI sparc iso from genunix.org and set up my LDOM as following:
-- snip --
(448) foo:/root# ldm list -l osol
NAME STATE FLAGS CONSVCPU MEMORY UTIL UPTIME
osol active -n 50016 4G 0.0% 1d 19h 6m
SOFTSTATE
Solaris running
MAC
00:14:4f:bb:cc:f3
HOSTID
0xaabbccf3
CONTROL
failure-policy=ignore
DEPENDENCY
master=
VCPU
VIDPIDUTIL STRAND
0 8 0.1% 100%
1 9 0.0% 100%
2 10 0.0% 100%
3 11 0.0% 100%
4 12 0.1% 100%
5 13 0.0% 100%
MEMORY
RA PA SIZE
0x8000x20800 4G
VARIABLES
auto-boot?=false
NETWORK
NAME SERVICE DEVICE MAC
MODE PVID VID MTU
vnic2vsw1@primarynetwork@0
00:14:4f:bb:cc:ed1 1500
DISK
NAME VOLUME TOUT DEVICE SERVER
MPGROUP
dvd1 sol10u9-iso@primary-vds0 disk@2 primary
zdisk0 osol-zdisk0@primary-vds0 disk@0 primary
dvd0 osol-iso@primary-vds0disk@1 primary
VCONS
NAME SERVICE PORT
osol primary-vcc0@primary5001
-- snip --
I configured also an Sol10 U9 iso as "dvd1" to the LDOM for testing purposes.
So, when I boot up from dvd0 the install hangs:
-- snip --
Sun Fire T200, No Keyboard
Copyright (c) 1998, 2010, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
OpenBoot 4.30.4.b, 4096 MB memory available, Serial #aabbccdd.
Ethernet address 0:14:aa:bb:cc:dd, Host ID: aabbccdd.
{0} ok boot dvd0
Boot device: /virtual-devices@100/channel-devices@200/disk@1 File and args:
SunOS Release 5.11 Version snv_134 64-bit
Copyright 1983-2010 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
Hostname: opensolaris
Remounting root read/write
Probing for device nodes ...
Preparing automated install image for use
Requesting System Maintenance Mode
(See /lib/svc/share/README for more information.)
Console login service(s) cannot run
Enter user name for system maintenance (control-d to bypass):
-- snip --
After a bit debugging I think the reason is that the wanboot driver is
not correctly loaded, so the image on the iso containing the wandboot
config can't be mounted and the wanboot.conf of course cannot be
loaded.
-- snip --
root@:/lib/svc/method# more ./live-fs-root-minimal
[...]
#
# Depending upon how we are booted, enable either the
# 'live-media' instance or the 'net' instance of the
# filesystem/root service
#
if [ $ISA_INFO = "sparc" ]; then
# check if the wanboot device exists
BOOTFS_DISK="/devices/ramdisk-bootfs:a"
if [ -b "$BOOTFS_DISK" ]; then
#
# booting off of the net
/usr/sbin/svcadm enable svc:/system/filesystem/root:net
/usr/sbin/svcadm disable svc:/system/filesystem/root:media
fi
else
MEDIA=`$PRTCONF -v | $SED -n '/install_media/{;n;p;}'`
if [ ! -z "$MEDIA" ]; then
/usr/sbin/svcadm enable svc:/system/filesystem/root:net
/usr/sbin/svcadm disable svc:/system/filesystem/root:media
fi
fi
root@:/lib/svc/method# ls /devices
iscsipseudo:devctlscsi_vhci
iscsi:devctl ramdisk-root scsi_vhci:devctl
options ramdisk-root:a virtual-devices@100
pseudo ramdisk-root:a,raw
-- snip --
Can anybody confirm this (and has a work-around)?
No, the wanboot fs only appears if you've booted from the network; in
this case you've booted from a local CD (virtually). It's possible this
didn't work in LDOMs back in 134, as the devices present a little oddly
there; I just don't remember. Your workaround in that case would be to
set up an AI server and boot it from the net.
Dave
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Bordeaux running on OpenIndiana
On 21/10/10 06:15 PM, Tom Wickline wrote: Hello Everyone, Bordeaux 2.0.10 for OpenIndiana has been released. Hi Tom, Will be ordering a copy of this in the next couple of days - super keen to try it out and will be blogging a review too. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on USB stick
On 03/29/11 08:43 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: In *theory* it can be done. Go look at the OpenSolaris Caiman package. It has a utility for that, usbgen. I've not gotten it to work, but I gave up fairly quickly as at that point I'd invested almost 3 weeks trying to find a way to clone S10 installs w/ a ZFS root. I'm highly *not* happy, but I thought I'd lick my wounds for a while before I tried again. usbgen is used to generate the USB stick images from ISO's, which doesn't seem to be the question here. In general, installing to USB drives will work. However, booting from USB drives will usually require that they be inserted into the same USB slot every time. It's unclear whether that was the case here. Dave --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Andrew Myers wrote: From: Andrew Myers Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on USB stick To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 7:22 PM Hi, I have a dell latitude E6400 laptop on which unfortunately I cannot seem to get OI working, unless I boot it from a USB stick (the Live CD will not boot). I have a feeling this has something to do with the hard drive controller, but I am not really enough of a tech head to figure it out. So I had the idea that I could boot via the USB, and then use a another 64Gb stick and install OI on there. I thought that worked, because I ran the installer and it seemed to complete successfully. It rebooted from the 64G and I was able to use OI. However after shutting down that session, I cannot reboot again from the 64G USB stick. It gets to the "Splash Screen" but just reboots shortly after. In theory is what I'm doing (ie. install to USB rather than a HDD) going to work? And if so, is there any way I can try and debug why it fails on subsequent reboots? Regards, Andrew. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] eBook Daily Deal - DTrace: Dynamic Tracing in Solaris, Mac OS X, and FreeBSD
On 9/04/11 12:59 AM, Philip J. Robar wrote: On Apr 8, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Jesus Cea wrote: On 08/04/11 13:16, Philip J. Robar wrote: DTrace is also available on Linux in a slightly lesser form. (It doesn't change the kernel's source code.) References? Are you talking about the systemtap thing? I'm just repeated what was on the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTrace First I've ever heard of systemtap. It appears to be a competitor to DTrace. A web search finds amongst others: http://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/SystemtapDtraceComparison which appears to have been updated as recently as late February. There is a rather amusing (old) summary here, written by Bryan Cantrill: http://blogs.sun.com/ahl/entry/dtrace_knockoffs -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] eBook Daily Deal - DTrace: Dynamic Tracing in Solaris, Mac OS X, and FreeBSD
On 11/04/11 07:40 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: There is a rather amusing (old) summary here, written by Bryan Cantrill: Sorry, Adam Leventhal. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Bordeaux running on OpenIndiana
Couple of posts with some initial impressions are here, for anyone interested: http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/bordeux-for-openindiana-a-commercial-wine-implementation/ http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/bordeaux-for-openindiana-part-2-safari-and-vlc-media-player/ Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana and application keychain access
Hi All, More of an OpenSolaris query originally, as I've always had this problem, but still have it on oi_147 x86. In certain applications such as Pidgin and the bundled vncserver,. I have saved my password (for various chat accounts in the former, and for password authentication for client connections for the latter). However, these are apparently not unlocked by the login keychain, consequently on every desktop login to the system I am prompted to supply a password to unlock the keychain on launching these particular applications. Does anyone know how to "shut this up" so to speak, while still being able to have saved credentials in Pidgin etc.? Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana and application keychain access
On 27/04/11 01:34 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Hi All, More of an OpenSolaris query originally, as I've always had this problem, but still have it on oi_147 x86. In certain applications such as Pidgin and the bundled vncserver,. I have saved my password (for various chat accounts in the former, and for password authentication for client connections for the latter). However, these are apparently not unlocked by the login keychain, consequently on every desktop login to the system I am prompted to supply a password to unlock the keychain on launching these particular applications. Does anyone know how to "shut this up" so to speak, while still being able to have saved credentials in Pidgin etc.? Cheers, Dave Anybody? :) -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenDJ on OpenIndiana via SMF
The folks at Forgerock have a great how-to specifically for OpenIndiana: http://blogs.forgerock.com/opendj/2011/05/opendj-register-with-smf-on-openindiana/ Great to see some recognition of OpenIndiana, and ForgeRock look to be continuing on from Sun Microsystems in fine form. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Update info?
On 05/24/11 08:54 AM, Gary Mills wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 06:26:33AM -0600, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 09:21 +0100, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: Hi All, I too don't appreciate the flamewar on here of Solaris vs Linux, sudo vs pfexec. With all due respect, I think the technical signal is high enough to qualify as relevant discussion. My preference would be to: 1. Make root a role 2. Retain sudo as an option 3. Find a secure way to use RBAC for system administration Not surprisingly, that's what we are trying to do, the decision that prompted this sub-thread was about moving in that direction and removing a security issue we'd created with the experimentation in OpenSolaris releases. RBAC. properly configured, is highly secure, but doesn't provide one important thing yet: authentication of the user (using his password) at the keyboard when assuming privileges. A solution to that will happen and allow us to refine what we're doing with Solaris. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Migrating zones between OpenIndiana machines
Hi, I'm having a hell of a time trying to simply migrate a zone from one OI machine to another, wondering if anyone can help. Both machines are running oi_147 I have configured and install a NGZ on machine 1, and wish to detach and install it on machine 2. I am following the guide here: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19044-01/sol.containers/819-2450/gcgnc/index.html On machine 1: First I have run zoneadm -z myzone detach Then, cd /rpool/zones/zone_roots and tar cvf myzone.tar myzone/ This creates a .tar file of the zone, which I've then copied over to machine 2 On machine 2: I've extracted the .tar file to /rpool/zones/zone_roots The above steps so far are all covered at: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19044-01/sol.containers/819-2450/gcglo/index.html So, next I run: zonecfg -z myzone create -a /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone I alter the zone configuration properties as needed for networking etc, then commit and exit. Finally, I attempt to attach the zone: pfexec zoneadm -z myzone attach at which point I get: Log File: /var/tmp/myzone.attach_log.Wsaq8n ERROR: no active dataset. Result: Attach Failed. What is this referring to, and why can I not find any reference to it in the documentation? Any pointers welcome :) Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Migrating zones between OpenIndiana machines
From: Dave Koelmeyer Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 06:03:41 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Reply-To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Migrating zones between OpenIndiana machines Hi, I'm having a hell of a time trying to simply migrate a zone from one OI machine to another, wondering if anyone can help. Both machines are running oi_147 I have configured and install a NGZ on machine 1, and wish to detach and install it on machine 2. I am following the guide here: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19044-01/sol.containers/819-2450/gcgnc/index.html On machine 1: First I have run zoneadm -z myzone detach Then, cd /rpool/zones/zone_roots and tar cvf myzone.tar myzone/ This creates a .tar file of the zone, which I've then copied over to machine 2 On machine 2: I've extracted the .tar file to /rpool/zones/zone_roots The above steps so far are all covered at: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19044-01/sol.containers/819-2450/gcglo/index.html So, next I run: zonecfg -z myzone create -a /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone I alter the zone configuration properties as needed for networking etc, then commit and exit. Finally, I attempt to attach the zone: pfexec zoneadm -z myzone attach at which point I get: Log File: /var/tmp/myzone.attach_log.Wsaq8n ERROR: no active dataset. Result: Attach Failed. What is this referring to, and why can I not find any reference to it in the documentation? Any pointers welcome :) Cheers, Dave On 25/05/11 06:16 PM, Okky Hendriansyah wrote: Hi Dave, What are the output of "zfs list" on both machines? I think you have to create the "myzone" ZFS dataset on machine 2 before attaching the zone to it. Regards, Okky Hendriansyah Hi Okky, Thanks for your reply, output of machine 1 (the source machine) and machine 2 (the target): Machine 1: NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool/zones 7.80G 214G 34K /rpool/zones rpool/zones/zone_roots7.80G 214G 35K /rpool/zones/zone_roots rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone 4.08G 214G33K /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT 4.08G 214G31K legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT/zbe 4.08G 214G 4.01G legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT/zbe-1 78.5K 214G 525M legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-2 3.72G 214G 34.5K /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-2 rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-2/ROOT 3.72G 214G31K legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-2/ROOT/zbe 3.72G 214G 3.72G /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-2/root rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-3 300K 214G34K /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-3 rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-3/ROOT 266K 214G31K legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-3/ROOT/zbe 235K 214G 4.01G legacy Machine 2: NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool/zones 7.59G 18.8G32K /rpool/zones rpool/zones/zone_roots7.59G 18.8G 7.59G /rpool/zones/zone_roots So yes, the ""myzone" ZFS data set does not exist, but wouldn't this get created when the zone is attached? Alternatively, creating the dataset manually before the zone is attached does not change the behaviour, and I get the same error message. I'm clearly getting something confused here, any ideas? -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Migrating zones between OpenIndiana machines
On 28/05/11 01:29 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: From: Dave Koelmeyer Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 06:03:41 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Reply-To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Migrating zones between OpenIndiana machines Hi, I'm having a hell of a time trying to simply migrate a zone from one OI machine to another, wondering if anyone can help. Both machines are running oi_147 I have configured and install a NGZ on machine 1, and wish to detach and install it on machine 2. I am following the guide here: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19044-01/sol.containers/819-2450/gcgnc/index.html On machine 1: First I have run zoneadm -z myzone detach Then, cd /rpool/zones/zone_roots and tar cvf myzone.tar myzone/ This creates a .tar file of the zone, which I've then copied over to machine 2 On machine 2: I've extracted the .tar file to /rpool/zones/zone_roots The above steps so far are all covered at: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19044-01/sol.containers/819-2450/gcglo/index.html So, next I run: zonecfg -z myzone create -a /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone I alter the zone configuration properties as needed for networking etc, then commit and exit. Finally, I attempt to attach the zone: pfexec zoneadm -z myzone attach at which point I get: Log File: /var/tmp/myzone.attach_log.Wsaq8n ERROR: no active dataset. Result: Attach Failed. What is this referring to, and why can I not find any reference to it in the documentation? Any pointers welcome :) Cheers, Dave On 25/05/11 06:16 PM, Okky Hendriansyah wrote: Hi Dave, What are the output of "zfs list" on both machines? I think you have to create the "myzone" ZFS dataset on machine 2 before attaching the zone to it. Regards, Okky Hendriansyah Hi Okky, Thanks for your reply, output of machine 1 (the source machine) and machine 2 (the target): Machine 1: NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool/zones 7.80G 214G 34K /rpool/zones rpool/zones/zone_roots7.80G 214G 35K /rpool/zones/zone_roots rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone 4.08G 214G33K /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT 4.08G 214G31K legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT/zbe 4.08G 214G 4.01G legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT/zbe-1 78.5K 214G 525M legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-2 3.72G 214G 34.5K /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-2 rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-2/ROOT 3.72G 214G31K legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-2/ROOT/zbe 3.72G 214G 3.72G /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-2/root rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-3 300K 214G34K /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-3 rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-3/ROOT 266K 214G31K legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone-3/ROOT/zbe 235K 214G 4.01G legacy Machine 2: NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool/zones 7.59G 18.8G32K /rpool/zones rpool/zones/zone_roots7.59G 18.8G 7.59G /rpool/zones/zone_roots So yes, the ""myzone" ZFS data set does not exist, but wouldn't this get created when the zone is attached? Alternatively, creating the dataset manually before the zone is attached does not change the behaviour, and I get the same error message. I'm clearly getting something confused here, any ideas? As tends to happen, right after sending this I located a guide which apparently doesn't make the assumptions in the first documentation link I sent, specifically the section headed "Containers Residing on an Oracle Solaris ZFS Filesystem": http://developers.sun.com/solaris/docs/howto_movesolariscontainer_051410-1.pdf Will work thought this and shout if I have questions... -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] System confused about whether its running build 147 or 148
Hi, I have a machine, installed OpenIndiana 147 x86 from DVD on it (to troubleshoot issues with 148 if you must know). I've since run pkg image-update on it, which has created a new BE into which I have booted into. Upon login, I get this at the command prompt: Last login: Mon May 30 21:22:08 2011 from 192.168.51.2 OpenIndiana SunOS 5.11 oi_148 November 2010 Looks good - build 148. However, looking at /etc/release: OpenIndiana Development oi_147 X86 Copyright 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 14 September 2010 This is apparently an issue for a zone I am trying to attach to this system, as zoneadm attach -u seems to indicate the system (i.e. the global zone) thinks it is still running build 147 (and I image I cannot attach a zone with a later set of patches to a global zone with an earlier set): # zoneadm -z myzone attach -u Log File: /var/tmp/myzone.attach_log.z5aGMb Attaching... preferred global publisher: openindiana.org Global zone version: entire@0.5.11,5.11-0.147:20100914T054011Z Non-Global zone version: entire@0.5.11,5.11-0.148:20101125T013212Z Cache: Using /var/pkg/download. Updating non-global zone: Output follows Creating Plan \ ERROR: Could not update attaching zone Result: Attach Failed. Sooo...any ideas about what's happened here, and how to tell which build I'm actually running? Cheers, Dave -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building an Installer
On 06/ 2/11 07:18 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Hi, don't know if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if there is any chance to have an "installer tool" for bulding a customized installer of openindiana that would contain what I need by default, including additional software of mine. That's what the Distribution Constructor tool is used for. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] System confused about whether its running build 147 or 148
On 1/06/11 08:23 PM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: Hi Dave, I suspect you have the opensolaris.org publisher set as sticky - this will be holding a full upgrade back. Simply run: pkg set-publisher --non-sticky opensolaris.org Then re-run pkg image-update We're planning on rolling out a fix to this so everybody's opensolaris.org publisher gets set non-sticky during the next image-update for 151. Regards, Alasdair On 30 May 2011, at 10:32, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Bingo - that worked great, thanks Alasdair. Cheers, Dave Hi, I have a machine, installed OpenIndiana 147 x86 from DVD on it (to troubleshoot issues with 148 if you must know). I've since run pkg image-update on it, which has created a new BE into which I have booted into. Upon login, I get this at the command prompt: Last login: Mon May 30 21:22:08 2011 from 192.168.51.2 OpenIndiana SunOS 5.11 oi_148 November 2010 Looks good - build 148. However, looking at /etc/release: OpenIndiana Development oi_147 X86 Copyright 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 14 September 2010 This is apparently an issue for a zone I am trying to attach to this system, as zoneadm attach -u seems to indicate the system (i.e. the global zone) thinks it is still running build 147 (and I image I cannot attach a zone with a later set of patches to a global zone with an earlier set): # zoneadm -z myzone attach -u Log File: /var/tmp/myzone.attach_log.z5aGMb Attaching... preferred global publisher: openindiana.org Global zone version: entire@0.5.11,5.11-0.147:20100914T054011Z Non-Global zone version: entire@0.5.11,5.11-0.148:20101125T013212Z Cache: Using /var/pkg/download. Updating non-global zone: Output follows Creating Plan \ ERROR: Could not update attaching zone Result: Attach Failed. Sooo...any ideas about what's happened here, and how to tell which build I'm actually running? Cheers, Dave -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Migrating zones between OpenIndiana machines
On 28/05/11 02:23 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 28/05/11 01:29 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: From: Dave Koelmeyer Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 06:03:41 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Reply-To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Migrating zones between OpenIndiana machines Hi, I'm having a hell of a time trying to simply migrate a zone from one OI machine to another, wondering if anyone can help. Both machines are running oi_147 I have configured and install a NGZ on machine 1, and wish to detach and install it on machine 2. I am following the guide here: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19044-01/sol.containers/819-2450/gcgnc/index.html On machine 1: First I have run zoneadm -z myzone detach Then, cd /rpool/zones/zone_roots and tar cvf myzone.tar myzone/ This creates a .tar file of the zone, which I've then copied over to machine 2 On machine 2: I've extracted the .tar file to /rpool/zones/zone_roots The above steps so far are all covered at: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19044-01/sol.containers/819-2450/gcglo/index.html So, next I run: zonecfg -z myzone create -a /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone I alter the zone configuration properties as needed for networking etc, then commit and exit. Finally, I attempt to attach the zone: pfexec zoneadm -z myzone attach at which point I get: Log File: /var/tmp/myzone.attach_log.Wsaq8n ERROR: no active dataset. Result: Attach Failed. What is this referring to, and why can I not find any reference to it in the documentation? Any pointers welcome :) Cheers, Dave On 25/05/11 06:16 PM, Okky Hendriansyah wrote: Hi Dave, What are the output of "zfs list" on both machines? I think you have to create the "myzone" ZFS dataset on machine 2 before attaching the zone to it. Regards, Okky Hendriansyah Hi Okky, Thanks for your reply, output of machine 1 (the source machine) and machine 2 (the target): Machine 1: NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool/zones 7.80G 214G 34K /rpool/zones rpool/zones/zone_roots7.80G 214G 35K /rpool/zones/zone_roots rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone 4.08G 214G33K /rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT 4.08G 214G31K legacy rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT/zbe 4.08G 214G 4.01G legacy Machine 2: NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool/zones 7.59G 18.8G 32K /rpool/zones rpool/zones/zone_roots7.59G 18.8G 7.59G /rpool/zones/zone_roots So yes, the ""myzone" ZFS data set does not exist, but wouldn't this get created when the zone is attached? Alternatively, creating the dataset manually before the zone is attached does not change the behaviour, and I get the same error message. I'm clearly getting something confused here, any ideas? As tends to happen, right after sending this I located a guide which apparently doesn't make the assumptions in the first documentation link I sent, specifically the section headed "Containers Residing on an Oracle Solaris ZFS Filesystem": http://developers.sun.com/solaris/docs/howto_movesolariscontainer_051410-1.pdf Will work thought this and shout if I have questions... Well, if this wasn't the biggest pain in the arse to actually get going (the document linked above was useless) - a brief summary of what to do (pieced together from a bunch of places on the web) follows in case anyone else needs it in the future (will blog this too): In summary, I want to migrate the zone "myzone" on machine 1 to machine 2. On Machine 1: 1) Detach myzone, e.g.: #zoneadm -z myzone detach 2) Make snapshots of the following ZFS filesystems relevant to the zone "myzone": rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT/zbe e.g. # zfs snapshot -r rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone@snap1 3) Archive the snapshots into files in preparation for copying to machine 2, e.g.: # zfs send rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone@snap1 > /export/home/davek/myzone.snap1 # zfs send rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT@snap1 > /export/home/davek/myzone_root.snap1 # zfs send rpool/zones/zone_roots/myzone/ROOT/zbe@snap1 > /export/home/davek/myzone_root_zbe.snap1 4) Copy the archived snapshot files to machine 2 in any way you see fit On Machine 2: 1) Assuming the desired zonepath for your zones is /rpool/zones/zone_roots, create the ZFS filesystems if necessary, e.g.: # zfs create rpool/zones # zfs create rpool/zones/zone_roots 2) Restore the snapshot files into the relevant ZFS filesystems (these will be created on the fly), e.g.: # zfs receive rpoo
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Glassfish 2.1.1 on oi_148 - broken? (JCEKS not found)
On 25/12/10 12:15 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Hi, I have been running Glassfish 2.1.1 on oi_147 x86 (and OpenSolaris snv_134 before it) with no problems, originally installed from the opensolaris.org IPS repository. After upgrading to oi_148, attempts to start my domain result in the error: "[exec] Security Store uses: JKS [exec] JCEKS not found" Manually downloading the 2.1.1 binary and running the setup procedure results in the same error: "[exec] Security Store uses: JKS [exec] JCEKS not found [exec] CLI130 Could not create domain, domain1" (according to http://glassfish.java.net/downloads/v2.1.1-final.html) Switching back to my my oi_147 boot environment, I can start the domain fine. Has anyone else seen this? I'd obviously made some manual configuration change to the Java setup on my box originally, as running the update to oi_148 modifed everything at /usr/bin/jdk, including wiping out the sunjce_provider.jar file at /usr/jdk/jdk1.6.0_21/jre/lib/ext. Simply copying over the entire JDK from the oi_147 BE on my system seems to have resolved this. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building an Installer
On 06/ 4/11 01:57 PM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Thanks ;) I followed instructions as here: http://wiki.openindiana.org:8080/display/oi/Creating+Distribution+Images and it seem to work fine even on dev-il. The only problem I see is the repo: creating the iso by downloading all the packages from a remote repo sounds very busy. If you're adjusting package sets a lot, yes, it will be. But if you're doing customizations after the package download stage (which is the first one) then you can use the DC's resume from a checkpoint feature to avoid redoing that part. Sorry for the silly question, butmaybe I should create a clone of the repo once? How? If you're going to do a lot of builds with DC, you'll likely find this helpful. pkgrecv is the tool to replicate IPS repositories. Then...how do I update the repo without recreating from scratch? Again, pkgrecv. Dave Da: ken mays A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Cc: gbul...@sonicle.com Data: 4 giugno 2011 14.31.32 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building an Installer Use it under the OI environment. --- On Sat, 6/4/11, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: From: Gabriele Bulfon Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building an Installer To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 8:08 AM Thanx a lot for all the suggestions. A last question before starting: should I use it under OI or under a bare IllumOS? -- Da: Deano A: 'Discussion list for OpenIndiana' Data: 3 giugno 2011 9.07.12 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building an Installer Yes OI is built with distro-constructor and caimen. If you do manage get some experience with it, it would be great to write up your notes on the wiki. Customizing the installer works, but its currently a bit hidden, so any extra info you could add would be appreciated. The oi-dev IRC channel and ML will also be able to help you out, as there the devs who use it to produce the main OI installers with distro-constructor hang out. Bye, Deano -Original Message- From: Gabriele Bulfon [mailto: gbul...@sonicle.com ] Sent: 03 June 2011 07:52 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building an Installer Yes, I remember looking at it for OpenSolaris. Is it still usable on IllumOS/OI? I remember it didn't work correctly for some reasons on IllumOS. Is OI built with it? ---- -- Da: Dave Miner A: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Data: 2 giugno 2011 19.49.11 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building an Installer On 06/ 2/11 07:18 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Hi, don't know if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if there is any chance to have an "installer tool" for bulding a customized installer of openindiana that would contain what I need by default, including additional software of mine. That's what the Distribution Constructor tool is used for. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Illumos / OpenIndiana podcast
Garrett D'Amore has just posted a link to this: http://systemhelden.com/heldenfunk/2011/06/hf059-illumos-openindiana-niche11 Good listening, nice to hear a bit about the background of the founders. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Illumos panel discussion videos
From the discussion on the 15th for those interested, onDeirdré Straughan's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/deirdres#p/u/5/NArlja-RXVA -- Dave Koelmeyer http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Wiki Comment Spam
Seems to have been a further attack few hours ago, the Dashboard is full of it. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] AMD Phenom II X6 + 870 chipset, feedback?
Hi, I'm looking at the above combination as an inexpensive upgrade to the home OpenIndiana box, using the Asrock 870iCafe mobo specifically. Is anyone using this platform with OI and have any feedback to share? Nothing in the HCL as far as I can see. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] AMD Phenom II X6 + 870 chipset, feedback?
On 15/07/11 01:12 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Hi, I'm looking at the above combination as an inexpensive upgrade to the home OpenIndiana box, using the Asrock 870iCafe mobo specifically. Is anyone using this platform with OI and have any feedback to share? Nothing in the HCL as far as I can see. Anybody? if not I might just take the plunge and see. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] AMD Phenom II X6 + 870 chipset, feedback?
On 16/07/11 10:00 PM, Gary wrote: AFAIK, you shouldn't have any problems with AMD procs. Sun used to ship servers with AMD procs so unless someone's gone and yanked all that code from the kernel (highly unlikely) then you shouldn't have any troubles. Drivers for the motherboard, on the other hand, so long as there isn't anything too cutting edge in the way of controller chipsets ...? -Gary Thanks for the feedback Gary, the Asrock motherboard I'm looking at looks packed with fairly stock controllers (same Realtek ethernet part as what's in my Intel box at the moment for example) so looks like it might be a goer. Cheers! -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 3.1.8 / bridged networking on oi_148 x86 host
Hi All, I have a couple of VMs I keep hanging around which use VirtualBox bridged networking. I fire them up infrequently enough to not notice that apparently since upgrading my host to oi_148 bridged networking is broken. I see the following error message when attempting to launch the VMs in question: "Failed to start the virtual machine Ubuntu8.04. Failed to open/create the internal network 'HostInterfaceNetworking-rge0 - Realtek Gigabit Ethernet' (VERR_SUPDRV_COMPONENT_NOT_FOUND). Unknown error creating VM (VERR_SUPDRV_COMPONENT_NOT_FOUND)." Swtiching to NAT works fine. Anyone else seen this? -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 3.1.8 / bridged networking on oi_148 x86 host
On 25/07/11 03:58 AM, Gary Driggs wrote: Have you tried a more recent version of VB? I think 4.0.12 is the latest? Hi Gary, No, I've been holding off upgrading for the heck of it as 3.1.8 has been running like a champ for ages, however if you think it's worthwhile and might resolve this then I'll upgrade and see. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 3.1.8 / bridged networking on oi_148 x86 host
On 25/07/11 07:57 PM, Open Indiana wrote: Are you sure that your nics are still named rge? Yep: $ dladm show-link LINKCLASS MTUSTATEBRIDGE OVER rge0phys 1500 up -- -- vboxnet0phys 1500 unknown -- -- e1000g0 phys 1500 unknown -- -- As you can see, I have an Intel gigabit card in the box as well, and VirtualBox don't like it either for bridged networking. I'll just go with VirtualBox 4.x. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz - Original Message ----- From: "Dave Koelmeyer" I see the following error message when attempting to launch the VMs in question: "Failed to start the virtual machine Ubuntu8.04. Failed to open/create the internal network 'HostInterfaceNetworking-rge0 - Realtek Gigabit Ethernet' (VERR_SUPDRV_COMPONENT_NOT_FOUND). Unknown error creating VM (VERR_SUPDRV_COMPONENT_NOT_FOUND)." ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] AMD Phenom II X6 + 870 chipset, feedback?
Pleased to report there are no problems so far with this combo, running oi_148 x86. When I get a moment I'll add this to the HCL. Hexa-core with a fair amount of fruit for a song, wheee.. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Large jumps in system clock time
Hi All, Fresh install of oi_148 x86 on this new AMD Phenom II box I have just acquired. No applications nor system configuration/customisation post-install has taken place. If the system is started from cold, I will more often than not see errors logged during boot similar to: WARNING: Time of Day clock error: reason [Jumped]. -- Stopped tracking Time Of Day clock. When logged in, the Gnome clock reads a date and time completely incorrect (e.g. December 24 1986). Checking the date and time in BIOS however reads correctly, even across cold boots. I see a few threads out there describing the same problem (on Solaris/OpenSolaris that is) as well as a workaround (http://dbaspot.com/solaris/251388-help-solaris-date-time-go-crazy.html is typical), but I would think that if the system clock is accurate in BIOS that would rule out a hardware problem? Has anyone else experienced this? Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Large jumps in system clock time
On 04 Aug, 2011,at 10:46 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Hi All, Fresh install of oi_148 x86 on this new AMD Phenom II box I have just acquired. No applications nor system configuration/customisation post-install has taken place. If the system is started from cold, I will more often than not see errors logged during boot similar to: WARNING: Time of Day clock error: reason [Jumped]. -- Stopped tracking Time Of Day clock. When logged in, the Gnome clock reads a date and time completely incorrect (e.g. December 24 1986). Checking the date and time in BIOS however reads correctly, even across cold boots. I see a few threads out there describing the same problem (on Solaris/OpenSolaris that is) as well as a workaround (http://dbaspot.com/solaris/251388-help-solaris-date-time-go-crazy.html is typical), but I would think that if the system clock is accurate in BIOS that would rule out a hardware problem? Has anyone else experienced this? I should also mention that the error message above is preceded by an error advising that the time of day chip cannot be detected (I don't have the precise message to hand). Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Large jumps in system clock time
On 04 Aug, 2011,at 10:52 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 04 Aug, 2011,at 10:46 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: > Hi All, > > Fresh install of oi_148 x86 on this new AMD Phenom II box I have just acquired. No applications nor system configuration/customisation post-install has taken place. If the system is started from cold, I will more often than not see errors logged during boot similar to: > > > WARNING: Time of Day clock error: reason [Jumped]. > -- Stopped tracking Time Of Day clock. > > > When logged in, the Gnome clock reads a date and time completely incorrect (e.g. December 24 1986). Checking the date and time in BIOS however reads correctly, even across cold boots. > > I see a few threads out there describing the same problem (on Solaris/OpenSolaris that is) as well as a workaround (http://dbaspot.com/solaris/251388-help-solaris-date-time-go-crazy.html is typical), but I would think that if the system clock is accurate in BIOS that would rule out a hardware problem? Has anyone else experienced this? I should also mention that the error message above is preceded by an error advising that the time of day chip cannot be detected (I don't have the precise message to hand). Hi All, After swapping the mobo with the same new model, I am still seeing this behaviour accompanied by similar errors to: WARNING: Time of day chip unresponsive WARNING: Time of Day clock error: reason [Jumped by 0x2e4beaed]. -- Stopped tracking Time Of Day clock. Highly unlikely that I'd see this with two brand new mobos, so I have entered the following to /etc/system: set tod_broken=1 set dosynctodr=0 And will see what happens. Would it be worth opening a bug report for this? Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] KVM on Illumos
For those that haven't already seen: http://dtrace.org/blogs/bmc/2011/08/15/kvm-on-illumos/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 3.1.8 / bridged networking on oi_148 x86 host
On 07/25/11 08:06 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 25/07/11 07:57 PM, Open Indiana wrote: Are you sure that your nics are still named rge? Yep: $ dladm show-link LINKCLASS MTUSTATEBRIDGE OVER rge0phys 1500 up -- -- vboxnet0phys 1500 unknown -- -- e1000g0 phys 1500 unknown -- -- As you can see, I have an Intel gigabit card in the box as well, and VirtualBox don't like it either for bridged networking. I'll just go with VirtualBox 4.x. Cheers, Virtualbox 4.1 has resolved my bridged networking issue (although slightly concerned it was an issue to begin with). Hoping for AMD support for KVM in the near future! Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Wiki Comment Spam
On 07/15/11 01:08 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Seems to have been a further attack few hours ago, the Dashboard is full of it. So, can someone grant me permissions such that I can remove it, or can someone otherwise clean up the comments? It's a distracting eyesore. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Wiki Comment Spam
On 08/31/11 07:00 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 07/15/11 01:08 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Seems to have been a further attack few hours ago, the Dashboard is full of it. So, can someone grant me permissions such that I can remove it, or can someone otherwise clean up the comments? It's a distracting eyesore. (please) -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Problems with installing PostgreSQL-84
On 08/ 5/11 09:06 AM, Alexander Lesle wrote: Hello All, in my test Environment I use oi_151 that I have updated from oi_148 by using the PackageManager-Gui (Publisher: pkg.openindiana.org/dev-il/) I mentioned it because it seems to be different to the iso from here http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/oi_151 OK I want to install PostgreSQL-84 First I search root@oi_test:~# pkg search -r postgres Install: root@oi_test:~# pkg install database/postgres-84 database/postgres-84/tests database/postgres-84/language-bindings database/postgres-84/contrib database/postgres-84/library database/postgres-84/developer database/postgres-84/documentation service/database/postgres-84 Plan wird erstelltpkg: 'database/postgres-84' entspricht mehreren Paketen service/database/postgres-84 database/postgres-84 Ups, second shot by leaving "database/postgres-84": root@oi_test:~# pkg install database/postgres-84/tests database/postgres-84/language-bindings database/postgres-84/contrib database/postgres-84/library database/postgres-84/developer database/postgres-84/documentation service/database/postgres-84 Plan wird erstelltpkg: 'database/postgres-84' entspricht mehreren Paketen service/database/postgres-84 database/postgres-84 Zu installierende Pakete: 8 Startumgebung erstellen: Nein Neu zu startende Dienste: 1 DOWNLOADPAKETE DATEIEN ÜBERTRAGUNG (MB) Completed 8/8 2387/238716.4/16.4 PHASE AKTIONEN Installationsphase 2802/2802 PHASE ELEMENTE Paketstatus-Aktualisierungsphase 8/8 Abbildstatus-Aktualisierungsphase2/2 Fine install ok now verify root@oi_test:~# pkginfo | grep postg system SUNWpostgr-84-contribPostgreSQL community contributed tools not part of core product system SUNWpostgr-84-devel PostgreSQL development tools and header files system SUNWpostgr-84-docs PostgreSQL documentation and man pages system SUNWpostgr-84-libs PostgreSQL client libraries system SUNWpostgr-84-pl PostgreSQL additional Perl, Python& TCL server procedural languages system SUNWpostgr-84-server PostgreSQL database server system SUNWpostgr-84-server-data-root PostgreSQL database server data directories and root components system SUNWpostgr-84-tests PostgreSQL functional regression tests system SUNWpostgr-commonPostgreSQL common version independent files system SUNWpostgr-common-root PostgreSQL common version independent files (Root) I am missing the PostgreSQL client tools and I find no way to install it with the CLI. The only way is to install it with the PackageManager-Gui. Do I use the wrong pattern or is it a bug? Sorry for my involved description Same problem here. How does one install the client tools via IPS on the command line? -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Problems with installing PostgreSQL-84
On 09/ 2/11 12:26 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 08/ 5/11 09:06 AM, Alexander Lesle wrote: I am missing the PostgreSQL client tools and I find no way to install it with the CLI. The only way is to install it with the PackageManager-Gui. Do I use the wrong pattern or is it a bug? Sorry for my involved description Same problem here. How does one install the client tools via IPS on the command line? I gave up on this and just used the Package Manager GUI to install. If anyone else wants to get it and X over SSH working from a zone, these were the packages I installed in my case: SUNWxwplt package-manager libcanberra python-gnome-desktop-26 python-gnome-extras-26 Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana b148 USB Image corrupt? (For "Windows" and Solaris)
On 12 Sep, 2011,at 04:11 AM, Jonathan Leafty wrote: I've downloaded it now 3 times and the SHA/MD5 checks do not match. Anyone else seeing the same thing? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Hi Jonathan, Downloading from: http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/148/oi-dev-148-x86.usb MD5 sums match for me. Cheers, Dave Koelmeyer ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Announcing OpenIndiana Build 151a
Massive thanks and congratulations in order for the OpenIndiana and Illumos folks for this. Great, great stuff. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Where is the OpenDS
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jason J. W. Williams < jasonjwwilli...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not sure what the OpenIndiana position on this is, but OpenDS has > been forked into OpenDJ. So I'm sure the issue is finding someone to > maintain an OpenDJ package. > > -J If anyone wants to run OpenDJ as a SMF-managed service on OpenIndiana, the Forgerock folks have a great how-to here: http://blogs.forgerock.com/opendj/2011/05/opendj-register-with-smf-on-openindiana/ (Although the above doesn't use it, the Java Web Start installer is a thing of beauty.) Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Large jumps in system clock time
On 08/16/11 04:27 PM, jarl rathborgson wrote: "Dave Koelmeyer" wrote in message news:513862d3-1823-4e1c-8021-f393fdffd...@me.com... On 04 Aug, 2011,at 10:52 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 04 Aug, 2011,at 10:46 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: > Hi All, > > Fresh install of oi_148 x86 on this new AMD Phenom II box I have just > acquired. No applications nor system configuration/customisation > post-install has taken place. If the system is started from cold, I > will more often than not see errors logged during boot similar to: > > > WARNING: Time of Day clock error: reason [Jumped]. > -- Stopped tracking Time Of Day clock. > > > When logged in, the Gnome clock reads a date and time completely > incorrect (e.g. December 24 1986). Checking the date and time in BIOS > however reads correctly, even across cold boots. > > I see a few threads out there describing the same problem (on > Solaris/OpenSolaris that is) as well as a workaround > (http://dbaspot.com/solaris/251388-help-solaris-date-time-go-crazy.html > is typical), but I would think that if the system clock is accurate in > BIOS that would rule out a hardware problem? Has anyone else > experienced this? I should also mention that the error message above is preceded by an error advising that the time of day chip cannot be detected (I don't have the precise message to hand). Hi All, After swapping the mobo with the same new model, I am still seeing this behaviour accompanied by similar errors to: WARNING: Time of day chip unresponsive WARNING: Time of Day clock error: reason [Jumped by 0x2e4beaed]. -- Stopped tracking Time Of Day clock. Highly unlikely that I'd see this with two brand new mobos, so I have entered the following to /etc/system: set tod_broken=1 set dosynctodr=0 And will see what happens. Would it be worth opening a bug report for this? Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Do you have C1E enabled in your BIOS? It should be under power management or something similar, I have found this causes odd issues with clocks and various other things when the system is idle. Hi Jarl, Thanks for the reply - it's present in BIOS but disabled. The only thing I can really conclude is that this is a bad batch of boards, although everything else is operating with 100 percent stability, just not the clock. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] gcc 4.x on OpenIndiana 151
On 09/27/11 01:07 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Sorry for the illinformed butt in here... but how does one add SFE to repos? I mean in some detail if you have a few moments. I think this is what you are after: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Spec+Files+Extra+Repository Be sure to read the Troubleshooting notes. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana SFE repository: Call for testers
On 10/ 1/11 03:15 AM, Gary Mills wrote: Thanks for that. I've still had no response to submission of my spec file for the ISC DHCP server. I'm assuming now that SFE only deals with applications, mostly of the GUI sort. A service with an SMF manifest and method, like the one I've submitted, seems not to fit with what they offer. I've love to see this available via SFE - sounds like a fantastic addition. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Corrupted video on Ekiga 3.2.7
Hi All, Is anyone else seeing broken video via USB webcam in Ekiga? Running oi_151a x86, builds 148 and 147 were fine with the same V4L2 driver and Logitech C600 webcam. This is what I'm seeing in the local video call panel: http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/docs/EkigaWebcamProbs.png -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] AMD FX-8150 ("Bulldozer") CPUs
On 17 Oct, 2011,at 12:18 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: So...anyone interested in or planning on running OpenIndiana on one of these? Reviews have been disappointing but this mainly seems to have centered around poor single threaded performance, whereas things are actually kind of interesting with heavily threaded workloads, e.g.: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/8 Whoops, wrong link: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/7 Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Corrupted video on Ekiga 3.2.7
On 10/ 1/11 11:01 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Hi All, Is anyone else seeing broken video via USB webcam in Ekiga? Running oi_151a x86, builds 148 and 147 were fine with the same V4L2 driver and Logitech C600 webcam. This is what I'm seeing in the local video call panel: http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/docs/EkigaWebcamProbs.png Anybody else able to test this and confirm at all? Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] is the newly released orac-sol 11 an advance compared to oi?
On 11 Nov, 2011,at 11:07 AM, Jerry Kemp wrote: Should OI continue to support UltraSparc II/III/IV systems if possible? I sure hope so. Don't know about OI, but Ilumos developers make their feelings known about this in the panel discussion conducted a little while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyDaeQvp6O4 Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What advantages of KVM over Vbox
On 06 Dec, 2011,at 12:41 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: But I am upgrading... in the sweet bye and bye. If you are going with Intel then make jolly sure to read the small type before committing. I assumed the quad core Q8200 I purchased a couple years back would have VT-x support (quad core Intel CPU, c.2009 right?), but incredibly it doesn't. One of the reasons I buy AMD now (okay, no AMD support for KVM on OpenIndiana yet), these sort marketing tricks are a complete pain in the butt. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] USB audio input support in OpenIndiana
Hi All, Does anyone know if OpenIndiana supports mic audio input from USB-connected devices? Specifically I have a Logitech webcam with a built-in mic which I should like to use for mic audio input with Ekiga, but I can't see a way of making this work. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 source code leaked?
On 12/21/11 12:43 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: The most they can do is politely asking not to use it. Am I wrong? Yes. This is Oracle we're talking about here. I can't quite believe anyone is even seriously contemplating this. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distro_const package caching
On 12/20/11 06:51, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Hi, anyone knows a way to let distro_const cache the downloaded packages from IPS, avoiding download on every run??? The version of DC from back around 161 didn't allow this to be controlled. If you're just re-running with the same package set but different post-processing then you can just resume from the checkpoint after the image is populated with packages. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB <-> RS-232 adaptors
I've owned the Keyspan for several years, using it for tip access to my old Netra X1. Has worked perfectly up through Solaris 11. Dave On 12/26/11 21:43, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Keyspan-USA-19HS-Hi-Speed-supports-Sequence/dp/BVYJRY (Keyspan by Tripp-Lite USA-19HS) is listed on http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris/overview/keyspan135279.html for Solaris 10 update 5 and later. Linux�I think it should work _depending_ on the distro, but some things I've seen suggest one may need to manually build and/or install the driver for Ubuntu and Debian; but that was a few years old, and the situation may have changed. The only two choices I've seen repeatedly mentioned for Solaris are Edgeport and Keyspand, and the Edgeport seem to be more expensive. I haven't used either myself; I probably know of some that have used some such thing, but not that I could find out any time soon. On Dec 26, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for a reasonably priced unit? The one I have is MIA and was somewhat problematic. I'm sure it will turn up as soon as I buy a new one. Ideally I'd like something OI, Solaris 10 and Linux supported, but I'd be happy to live w/ just OI, or if all else fails Linux. Alternatively suggestions on inexpensive PCI RS-232 cards that work w/ both Solaris 10 U9& Linux also welcome.(The OI box is a nettop). I just need to talk to some embedded processor development boards and don't want to use Windows. Thanks, Reg ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] twitter
On Jan 05, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Peter Tribble wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: > > I have tried to login to my twitter account but this is almost > impossible when I use my OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana systems. After > a while twitter complains that > > Twitter.com is loading slowly. > Hmm, this seems to be taking a while. If problems persist, please reload to try again. Is this with Firefox 9? I've reverted to FF8 for precisely this reason. +1, Firefox v7.0 seems fine, problems under v9.0. Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Solaris on x86 going to be killed?
On 01/ 7/12 01:37 PM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: Well, if someone would make use of those files that Oracle shared in bittorrent, we could make S11 upgreadable to OI, so no one would loose any server if Orcale goes nuts and kills architectures... That would be a very important task. http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/docs/1.gif ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] News packages wanted for OpenIndiana
On 02/12/12 10:46 AM, Milan Jurik wrote: Hi, cpforum píše v so 11. 02. 2012 v 21:21 +0100: Under Solaris 11 two DHCP servers are available into the main repository : ** Sun DHCP server ** ISC DHCP OpenIndiana is limited to the old Sun DHCP. ISC DHCP is very easy to compile and should be added to the Openindiana repository. Might have my wires crossed here, but wasn't a contributor talking about this quite some time back? http://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-discuss/2011-September/005349.html -- Dave Koelmeyer http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB audio input support in OpenIndiana
Anyone? Cheers, Dave On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: > Hi All, > > Does anyone know if OpenIndiana supports mic audio input from > USB-connected devices? Specifically I have a Logitech webcam with a > built-in mic which I should like to use for mic audio input with Ekiga, but > I can't see a way of making this work. > > Cheers, > > -- > Dave Koelmeyerhttp://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz > > > > > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB audio input support in OpenIndiana
Hi James, Thanks for that information - I'll have a poke around and see :) Cheers, Dave On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:57 AM, James Carlson wrote: > Dave Koelmeyer wrote: > > Anyone? > > "It depends." > > The usb_as and usb_ac drivers generally handle USB audio streaming input > and output devices. But not all hardware devices implement the > standards properly or are bound by a driver. > > If you're finding that plugging in this device doesn't result in a new > audio device being plumbed, then that's probably an existence proof that > it's not one of those standard devices. I wouldn't be surprised to find > that a webcam with microphone has a non-standard class. > > You should be able to find the device by wading through the "prtpicl -v" > output or in the syslog messages. A key clue is seeing "usb_mid" > attaching to the device when it's inserted. That means that no standard > class driver works on that device, and you're getting the "generic" > driver that allows user-space implementations. > > -- > James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Access to /etc on a pool from another system?
beadm is missing a qualifier on mount to specify the pool name under which the named BE is located, so it mounts the first BE it finds with the name you specify. Since you had the same BE name present in your existing root pool, that gets in the way. Your workaround removed the conflict and that's why it worked. Dave On 03/19/12 23:18, Reginald Beardsley wrote: Well, not quite. Look at my more recent post. I'm not yet 100% sure of the details, but it revolves around how zfs& be interact. And most likely the namespace collision between rpool& fpool. However, you can see& manipulate things w/ beadm that you can't access w/ zfs. There are doubtless sound reasons for this hidden in the implementation details. fpool was mounted under /mnt, it just wasn't the portion of fpool I wanted to access. My observation of df over the past few years is that it doesn't quite grok zfs yet. I find myself using "zfs list" quite a bit. In any event, the confluence of comments got me to the solution. Which is what matters. So thanks again to all. Have Fun! Reg --- On Mon, 3/19/12, James Carlson wrote: From: James Carlson Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Access to /etc on a pool from another system? To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 8:15 PM On 03/19/12 17:16, Reginald Beardsley wrote: I would expect /mnt to contain /mnt/etc also. rhb@openindiana:~# df /mnt /� � � � � � � � � (rpool/ROOT/oi_151 ):360070851 blocks 360070851 files rhb@openindiana:~# Well, there's your problem.� /mnt isn't mounted.� All you're looking at is your native rpool root file system, not the one in fpool. Now that I think about it, the problems seemed to revolve around the special way that zfs and beadm treat /. Other than being "canmount=no", it's not too special.� Just look at the ZFS attributes; they tell you everything you might want to know. zfs get -o all all fpool/ROOT/opensolaris -- James Carlson� � � ���42.703N 71.076W� � � ��� ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Root as role vs. user and rsync
On 5/6/12 8:04 AM, "Jeppe Toustrup" wrote: >2. SSH in as dedicated unprivileged user, which then have permissions >to run rsync with root permissions though sudo. This is how I do it, which also has the advantage of letting me give sudo permissions to run specific scripts that (for example) quiesce a database, snapshot the filesystem, reactivate the database, mount the snapshot, and then perform further operations on the snapshot while the database is humming along. Makes backup windows much more manageable -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com "...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NEWBIE can't find /usr/sbin/sysconfig
On 05/07/12 12:03, Alan Coopersmith wrote: On 05/ 7/12 08:39 AM, Uwe Reh wrote: 1. Remains the tool sysconfig proprietary to S11 or is there something equivalent at OI? Oracle released the sysconfig sources, though I don't know if it depends on anything specific to S11 or if it would work on OI: http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/caiman/slim_source/usr/src/cmd/system-config/ Correct, however, the config and unconfig milestones that operate the whole framework (the tool just creates an SMF profile) are part of the ON consolidation and thus not open; OI would need to re-implement them. The Solaris implementation relies on SMF decorations, which was also added to ON after the last public update to source. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] installing oracle 11g
On 05/24/12 10:20 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: The simplest workaround is to grant the Oracle user permission before you su to it: xhost +si:localuser:oracle Hi Alan/all, Out of interest, assuming I am granting a local user permission to use X in this manner, how do I make this persist across reboots? The man page implies I create an X0.hosts file at /etc containing "+si:localuser:oracle", but this doesn't work. I probably haven't got the format right, but any pointers? Thanks, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Best place for support on initial install of OI?
I"m looking for some basic support on the initial install of OI and wondered if someone could point me to the best place? Wasn't sure if this was, or perhaps the IRC channel #openindiana but I'd like to ask a simple question regarding the initial install (have tried both DVD and USB install and the install appears to run, then just halts asking for a username for system maintenance)... ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Any OI experiences with SuperMicro X9DR7-LN4F?
The two concerns I have are the LSI SAS controller (LSI 2308) and the Intel i350 4-port GigE network (which doesn't appear to have drivers under OI151a but does under Solaris 11). I'm looking for a motherboard that works well with the onboard SAS because I'm trying to fit it in 1U and still have room for a fibre channel card. I know I can fall back to a Socket 1366 motherboard if necessary but I hate to buy an older CPU now that the E5 Xeons are out -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com "...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] DHCP server for IPV6
On 06/07/12 10:08, Gary Gendel wrote: Moving from IPV4 to IPV4/IPV6 on my home network is like peeling an onion, so I'm taking it one step at a time. :( Currently I only see the old Solaris dhcp server for OI. Can this handle ipv6? I couldn't find any examples but ipv6 support was superficially mentioned in some documents I came across. Is there a howto document available? If not, do we have a supported install package for ISC DHCP now that it's gone from SFE? No, the Solaris server does not support IPv6. ISC is your best bet. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Browser update/alternative for OI_151?
On 06/24/12 01:04 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: I'm encountering an increasing number of websites which complain that my browser is out of date. I'm running OI_151 w/ firefox 0.5.11-0.151.1. "pkg update" says "No updates available for this image." google & the wiki didn't offer much hope, though I do see updates for OpenSolaris 11. Does anyone know if one of those works on OI? Hi Reginald, You can get the latest Firefox for Solaris (runs on OpenIndiana fine) from: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/13.0.1/contrib/ Substitute the version number in the URL as necessary :) Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana and application keychain access
On 04/27/11 01:34 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Hi All, More of an OpenSolaris query originally, as I've always had this problem, but still have it on oi_147 x86. In certain applications such as Pidgin and the bundled vncserver,. I have saved my password (for various chat accounts in the former, and for password authentication for client connections for the latter). However, these are apparently not unlocked by the login keychain, consequently on every desktop login to the system I am prompted to supply a password to unlock the keychain on launching these particular applications. Does anyone know how to "shut this up" so to speak, while still being able to have saved credentials in Pidgin etc.? Thought I'd try again - I still see this on oi_151a, surely someone else has? Any suggested fixes welcome - having vncserver refuse to unlock on login is driving me around the bend. Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Synchronizing Sun DHCP servers
On 08/09/12 07:59, James Carlson wrote: Jim Klimov wrote: I wondered if the Sun DHCP server, also provided in OI, supports synchronization of instances - i.e. two boxes providing addresses for the same range, "should" support interchange of leased address lists, defined macros (dhcptab) and so on. Yes. The simplest answer is to use the SUNWfiles backend (see dhcp_modules(5)), and share the files via NFS between servers. The more complex (but much more scalable) way is via NIS+ (on Solaris 10, but not OpenIndiana; NIS+ is dead). Amusingly, the man page still talks about "three" built-in mechanisms but then describes only two. Good to see you're still better at noticing details than most anyone I know :-) You can also write your own backend to do anything you want; see the "Solaris DHCP Service Developer's Guide:" http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/806-6829/806-6829.pdf That would be my suggestion, too. Perhaps a shared LDAP backend can be implemented? I'm sure that could be done as well. I don't recall if it was ever done, but I would have expected that it would have been an ARC-required portion of the NIS+ to LDAP transition strategy. I'd expect that Dave Miner at Oracle would know for sure if anyone does. No, we never got around to building one; I seem to recall we'd started a prototype back in the late '90's but it never got to be a priority. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on HP Proliant (ML100 series) systems
Hi All, Does anyone have any experience running OpenIndiana specifically on HP's ML100-series SMB servers? I've had a look at the servers page on the wiki, but doesn't look like anyone has tested it on these boxes yet. Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sata hba choice
On 8/24/12 10:54 AM, "Dan Swartzendruber" wrote: >A little caveat here: if you haven't read the right articles on the >right forums, it seems the application that has to be run to reflash >this can be cantankerous about which motherboards it runs (believe it or >not.) The current app is problematic if you're using it with a modern motherboard. On the other hand, if you can boot into Windows you can use the P7 version (found at P7_9211_8i_Package_For_P7_Firmware_BIOS_Upgrade_on_MSDOS_and_Windows.zip) to flash it to IT firmware, and then can upgrade to a modern firmware. It's a little (okay, a LOT) goofy, but it works. -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com "...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Lightning for Thunderbird 15
Hi All, Thunderbird 15 is out, but no sign of an OpenIndiana-compatible version of Lightning yet: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/releases/ Anyone know who/how/where these are generated? Cheers, -- Dave Koelmeyer http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] "OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns"
And the "farewell" message (if you can call it that) here: http://lwn.net/Articles/514046/ My response on this list forthcoming, once I get over the frankly deeply shitty way in which it's been communicated. Cheers, Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
