Re: [ob] Re: Lama banget BNBR nyampe 100?

[Andre Andre]

BUMI





From: john.nuel 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 9:48:54 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: Lama banget BNBR nyampe 100?





BC apa yg masih murah? bukannya BC ud pada naik kuda terbang. boleh tolong 
share biar bisa ikutan. tengkiu

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Harry"  wrote:
>
> Ini salah satu dr saham2 busuk (bnbr,dewa,btel, trub) yg kalo trading "KUDU 
> MELOTOT" ampe mata merah beraer-aer!
> 
> Dah yang BC aja, masih banyak tuh yang murah!
>


   


  

Re: [ob] 22:35 - Dow Jones U.S. Coal Index +10.91%)

[Andre Andre]

BUMI ADRO 





From: its.me.abs 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 10:38:46 PM
Subject: [ob] 22:35 - Dow Jones U.S. Coal Index +10.91%)





Dow Jones U.S. Coal Index
(DJI: ^DJUSCL)
Index Value: 213.64 
Trade Time: 11:35am ET 
Change: 21.02 (10.91%) 
Prev Close: 192.62 
Open: 192.93 
Day's Range: 192.93 - 214.12 
52wk Range: N/A 
 
http://finance. yahoo.com/ q?s=^djuscl
 
   


  

Re: [ob] ADRO - Tech Update

[Andre Andre]

Broker buy and sell is a phantom... there is no use to look at it... stocks can 
be transfer anytime to any other brokers in count of seconds smart money is 
smart, they use different brokerages only to make u more confuse





From: JsxTrader™ 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 6:17:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] ADRO - Tech Update





Exactly, saya pikir mengamati broker buy and broker sell hanya akan bikin kita 
bingung, better watch for price and volume action..

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From:  indeksbei3000@ gmail.com
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:09:34 +
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] ADRO - Tech Update

Iya Mas
Maksud saya, Capek kalau kita mikirin Broker mana yg Jual dan Broker mana yg 
beli..karena Bozz transaksi di Banyak broker..
Pikirin aja True Volume..


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From:  "Yudizz" 
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:52:56 +0700
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] ADRO - Tech Update

Santai Bos, average kita2 kan ada di bawah. Turunin lagi deh ke seceng, gue 
borong sampe kolor2nya BD ADRO, hehehe…
 
Lu jual gue beli, lu ngibrit gue kepret..!!!
 
Regards,
Yudizz
 
 


 
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] On Behalf Of indeksbei3000@ gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 5:04 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] ADRO - Tech Update
 




Kalau ternyata tgl 1 april-  5 Mei ZP, CC, IF, DB, KK. Sudah transaksi NEGO ke 
PD, BZ, FM, MG, CP...bagaimana Pak ?
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From: "COMPOSITE _-$-_" 
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:51:14 +0700
To: < obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com >
Subject: Re: [ob] ADRO - Tech Update
masi aman pa...
kalo dilihat transaksi by broker ADRO dr tgl 1 april-  5 mei dikumpulin oleh 
ZP, CC, IF, DB, KK
yg buang hari ini PD, BZ, FM, MG, CP...
hehe... 
2009/5/5 JsxTrader 
 
Bukan mau nakut-nakutin. ., ADRO closingnya jelek banget.., bearish engulfing 
dimana candle sebelumnya juga jelek.., Volume dan SAR mengkonfirmasi signal 
dari candle tsb…, good newsnya, Signal Candle biasanya hanya short term, selama 
trend masih belum patah, don’t worry…, support 1050…, ya banyak-banyak do’a aja 
lah… , J
 
JT
 
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com]On Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: 05 Mei 2009 14:40
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com;jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: [ob] ADRO - Tech Update
 


Termehek-mehek diarea resistance gap…, break and close above 1200 baru cakep.., 
sabar aja lah…, trend masih ok kok.., bantu doa’nya aja… J
 
JT
 


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Re: Bls: [ob] Re: STI knp tu menggebu2 mendadak???????????

[Andre Andre]

MANTAP DEH BOZZITS ALL ABOUT ABUBA





From: artomoro9 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 3:31:46 PM
Subject: Bls: [ob] Re: STI knp tu menggebu2 mendadak???





ihsg jam 15.30 1796. 


terimakasih bozz..



yuk mareee...!!




DISCLAIMER ONtheway

--- Pada Rab, 6/5/09, artomoro9  menulis:


Dari: artomoro9 
Topik: Bls: [ob] Re: STI knp tu menggebu2 mendadak ???
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Rabu, 6 Mei, 2009, 12:38 AM


kalo bozz serius narik ihsg lagi ke 1794 aja,

 ane masuk lagi dah..







DISCLAIMER ONtheway..


--- Pada Rab, 6/5/09, jsx_consultant  menulis:


Dari: jsx_consultant 
Topik: [ob] Re: STI knp tu menggebu2 mendadak ???
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Rabu, 6 Mei, 2009, 12:27 AM


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "andref_r"  wrote:
>
> dibalap eui jkt ditinggal jauhwakkakak
>

Ini orang Singapore mungkin prediksi hasil STRESS TEST bagus,
atau ada beritanya ?.

 


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Re: [ob] Kapok Dah Nunggu Koreksi

[Andre Andre]

bener2 stuju2 hahahaha





From: ""::Pak_AA:":" 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 4:03:33 PM
Subject: [ob] Kapok Dah Nunggu Koreksi





Musim hajar kanan gene, gak boleh niru ibu2

   


  

Re: [ob] ANTM - Tech Update

[Andre Andre]

newmont?





From: JsxTrader 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 4:31:56 PM
Subject: RE: [ob] ANTM - Tech Update





Watching pergerakan ANTM tick by
tick…, it is strong as a Bull..,  got to be something nih.., I am sure bukan 
Cuma
karena general market… hmmm, apa ya??
 
BTW, jadi inget dulu ada yg
bilang ANTM mau ke 400…,  emang ANTM saham apaan? J
 
JT
 
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On
Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: 06 Mei 2009 10:43
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] ANTM - Tech Update
 



Nice move Huh ? touch our
technical target 1620…, selanjutnya terserah anda…, break and close above 1620
will continue the move….., yi.. !
 
JT
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On
Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: 05 Mei 2009 14:30
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: [ob] ANTM - Tech Update
 
 
 
Sedang Menguji Resistance 200 EMA, Technical Target terdekat
1620.., HOLD
 
JT
 


 
   


  

Re: [ob] Re: [tanya] bumi lagi

[Andre Andre]

yakin loe? awas ya kl ga...jk2 hauhauhuahuahuhua





From: t_bumi 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 10:44:31 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: [tanya] bumi lagi






Sip : tbumi
BUMI bisa tembus Rp. 2500  dlm beberapa minggu ini
 
   


  

Re: [ob] ihg rabu

[Andre Andre]

technical is dead for super bull market or super bear market perhaps? hahahahah

GBU all





From: swan silo 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; sa...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 10:45:41 PM
Subject: [ob] ihg rabu





saya kok agak kawatir dengan pergerakan index... indikator macd tema, sto, 
rsi, n will R% + volume yang menurun. ..
perlu  viagra untuk mendorong idx ke 2016 .kalau gagal potensi koreksi 
ke 1727 dan 1677 ...semoga saya salah... ..
watch

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Re: [ob] Ical Siap Jadi Cawapres SBY?

[Andre Andre]

SAYA DUKUNG OM ICAL!

GBU all





From: simon bolenang 
To: obrolan-bandar yahoogroups ; saham 
yahoogroups 
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 11:03:19 PM
Subject: [ob] Ical Siap Jadi Cawapres SBY?





Ical Siap Jadi Cawapres SBY?
Luhur Hertanto - detikNews
 
 Jakarta - Nama Aburizal Bakrie (Ical) masuk dalam daftar 6 kandidat bakal
cawapres Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono (SBY). Anggota dewan penasehat Partai
Golkar itu menyatakan kesiapannya bila akhirnya terpilih sebagai
cawapres.


 

   


  

Re: [ob] Re: [tanya] bumi lagi

[Andre Andre]

1770 x25% brp tuh I want more hahahahaha





From: jkunci 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 12:06:05 AM
Subject: [ob] Re: [tanya] bumi lagi





Bumi super bullish, besok target 2000! mau mau mau???
ngarep.com

salam,

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "t_bumi"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Sip : tbumi
> 
> BUMI bisa tembus Rp. 2500  dlm beberapa minggu ini
>


   


  

Re: [ob] Heran BUMI diem hari ini pada pesta group Bakrie ?

[Andre Andre]

Ktemu lawan mbah...si para pemilik repo

GBU all





From: jsx_consultant 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 3:22:42 PM
Subject: [ob] Heran BUMI diem hari ini pada pesta group Bakrie ?





Heran BUMI diem hari ini pada pesta group Bakrie ?


   


  

Re: [ob] Re: Heran BUMI diem hari ini pada pesta group Bakrie ? + INCO

[Andre Andre]

INCO is a money machine for a long term investor,same like UNVR...it's a 
Buffett pick if he is investing in Indonesia...IF lho ya ahahhahaha

GBU all





From: john.nuel 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 5:57:15 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: Heran BUMI diem hari ini pada pesta group Bakrie ? + INCO





klo gitu INCO BERESIKO TINGGI karena tdak ditopang fundamental yang baik? kata 
mbah khan dlm jangka panjang terbukti Fundamental yang menentukan.- -- In 
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Peter Alimin"  wrote:
> >
> > Newbie coba analisa ya mbah...
> 
> Kebanyakan Newbie nih..
> 
> Yang Newbie ngakunya jagoan, yang jagoan ngakunya newbie.
> 
> Jangan merendah pak, analisa anda sudah profesional, embah aja
> engga pernah bikin analisa TA seperti ini...
> 
> Note:
> - Untuk INCO, laporan Q1 2009 relatif sama dengan Q4 2008,
>   yg satu untung sedikit dan yg satu lagi rugi sedikit,
>   tapi kedua duanya AMBLAS dibanding Q1 2008.
> - Jadi sudah 2 kwartal INCO, cuman kerja bakti engga ada
>   hasilnya.
> - Lalu kenapa INCO bisa naik ?. Emiten yg ruginya lebih
>   gede aja bisa naik, jadi kenapa INCO engga naik ?.
>   Namanya juga Bullish, tinggal BD mau naekin atau engga ?. 
>   Hari ini INCO break previous High, jadi apa musti tunggu
>   INCO bisa untung ?.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > BUMI per kemarin membentuk formasi 7white candle dan dengan gap up kemarin. 
> > Juga sempat diperdebatkan apakah ini exhaustion atau continuation gap, 
> > bahkan pak Tirta memberi warning akan terjadi island reversal. 
> > BD ataupun F bukan sinterklas yang serta merta memberi kita gain, ketika 
> > sampai 2000 tadi supply tidak habis2..sempat akan break diisi lagi, ini 
> > berarti ada yang sedang TP, saya tidak tahu apa itu BD besar atau Hedge 
> > Fund, tapi menurut hemat saya Gap itu sepertinya akan ditutup dulu..mereka 
> > kan juga perlu TP, dan akumulasi lagi di bawah..ada baiknya kita tunggu 
> > senin, kalau harga ke bawah, tidak ada salahnya kita tunggu di support gap
> > 
> > Kemarin hal yang sama terjadi di INCO, supply tidak habis2..dan gap 
> > berhasil ditutup hari ini, bahkan bonus bullish engulfing..btw, pak Hans, 
> > pak JT, gimana INCO?thx
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"  > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kita punya 2 hari weekend untuk menganalisanya, disamping
> > > menunggu kelanjutan DJI yg kemarin koreksi dan pengumuman Capres,
> > > 
> > > Jadi masing masing pikirkan dulu dan kasih analisanya sebelum
> > > Senin, oke ?.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lucky Trader  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maksud kalimat terakhir apa Mbah ?
> > > > Apa "Bakri's Show" akan berlanjut minggu depan ?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 5/8/09, jsx_consultant  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yang embah catat dari index +13 ampe +33 (naik 20 point)
> > > > > - BUMI -2%
> > > > > - ASII +7,2%
> > > > > - ANTM +9,8%
> > > > > - TINS +13,8%
> > > > > - INCO +6,7%
> > > > > - INTP +6,1%
> > > > > - INKP +9,2%
> > > > >
> > > > > Terlihat BD berusaha kuat menjaga kehatuhan BUMI dengan
> > > > > mengangkat IHSG dan index mining, Mungkin ini musti
> > > > > dipikirkan.. .
> > > > >
> > > > > Tapi karena ini Week End, dan pesta group Bakrie masih
> > > > > terjadi hari ini, enjoy aja dulu deh...
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com  > > > > 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > > > > HL  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kan mau ngulang sejarah Mbah, balapan Sama Antam.
> > > > > > Jadi sekarang nungguin ANTM dulu ke 1900, baru deh balapan hehehehe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2009/5/8 Si iJO 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cumi cah kangkung enak niyh,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kangkung orang barusan saya samberr,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nyayuuurrr ahh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > iJO___iJO___ iJO___iJO_ __iJO___iJO_ __iJO
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  - -
> > > > > > > *From*: "CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)"
> > > > > > > *Date*: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:51:45 +0700
> > > > > > > *To*:  > > > > > > 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Subject*: Re: [ob] Heran BUMI diem hari ini pada pesta group 
> > > > > > > Bakrie ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > FAX! Baru aja ammend tawaran kangkung, malah ada yang obral 
> > > > > > > kangkung.
> > > > > > > Xanana Beach!
> > > > > > > Kuncinya emang SABAR, SABAR dan SABAR!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Q: Cumi-cumi mempunyai delapan kaki atau delapan tangan?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2009/5/8 Si iJO 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> B... .
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Dingin kena guyuran...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> *saat-nya pungutin*
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Qiqiqiqiqiqiqi
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> iJO___iJO___ iJO___iJO_ __iJO___iJO_ __iJO
> > > 

Re: [ob] Candle BUMI

[Andre Andre]

this is a bullish signbe a contrarian hahahaha

GBU all





From: Joe Grunk 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 6:53:13 PM
Subject: RE: [ob] Candle BUMI






Kok terganggu sih?

Bandarnya malah seneng dong. Emang sengaja dibuat kok. Biar orang yg beli di 
atas cut loss.




--- Pada Jum, 8/5/09, Yudizz  menulis:


Dari: Yudizz  
 
Trus satu lagi, kalo di sini ada BD BUMI yang merasa
terganggu sama posting saya, saya mohon maaf. Tadi saya baru comment tentang
gravestone doji aja, email saya udah dikerjain. Tadi saya sama sekali nggak
bisa login ke Gmail, katanya account Gmail saya tidak terdaftar. Ckckck...
 
Regards,
Yudizz
 
 


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
] On Behalf Of LMSS
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:21 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Candle BUMI
 




Pak
Yudizz, tlg tanya "gravestone doji" artinya apa ya, pak? aku td
beli..eh dibawa turun..:( ada perkiraan kemungkinan utk senin pak?

thanks pak

2009/5/8, Yudizz :
> Kemarin gap, sekarang gravestone doji. Any comment..?
>
>
>
> I pray for the best aja deh. Teman2 saya banyak yang nyangkut average
> 2000an. Kalo bisa balik modal aja, mereka pasti udah senang banget.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Yudizz
>
>

 


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Re: [ob] Re: Heran BUMI diem hari ini pada pesta group Bakrie ? + INCO

[Andre Andre]

Wah mayan bgt...udah beranak brapa kali lipat tuh INCO nya pak?





From: sylar_fang 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 7:04:36 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Heran BUMI diem hari ini pada pesta group Bakrie ? + INCO





 INCO royal bagi dividen ... UNVR jg  ane msh keep INCO yg ane beli 
waktu IPO ... waktu beli na kaga ngerti apa2 ... ikut2 an sepupu yg lbh tua aja 
... bentuk na msh lembaran kertas ampe skrg ... perlu ane bingkai kyk na ... 
 
:)

--- Pada Jum, 8/5/09, Andre Andre  menulis:


Dari: Andre Andre 
Topik: Re: [ob] Re: Heran BUMI diem hari ini pada pesta group Bakrie ? + INCO
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Jumat, 8 Mei, 2009, 6:37 PM


INCO is a money machine for a long term investor,same like UNVR...it's a 
Buffett pick if he is investing in Indonesia... IF lho ya ahahhahaha

GBU all





 From: john.nuel 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 5:57:15 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: Heran BUMI diem hari ini pada pesta group Bakrie ? + INCO


klo gitu INCO BERESIKO TINGGI karena tdak ditopang fundamental yang baik? kata 
mbah khan dlm jangka panjang terbukti Fundamental yang menentukan.- -- In 
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Peter Alimin"  wrote:
> >
> > Newbie coba analisa ya mbah...
> 
> Kebanyakan Newbie nih..
> 
> Yang Newbie ngakunya jagoan, yang jagoan ngakunya newbie.
> 
> Jangan merendah pak, analisa anda sudah profesional, embah aja
> engga pernah bikin analisa TA seperti ini...
> 
> Note:
> - Untuk INCO, laporan Q1 2009 relatif sama dengan Q4 2008,
> yg satu untung sedikit dan yg satu lagi rugi sedikit,
> tapi kedua duanya AMBLAS dibanding Q1 2008.
> - Jadi sudah 2 kwartal INCO, cuman kerja bakti engga ada
> hasilnya.
> - Lalu kenapa INCO bisa naik ?. Emiten yg ruginya lebih
> gede aja bisa naik, jadi kenapa INCO engga naik ?.
> Namanya juga Bullish, tinggal BD mau naekin atau engga ?. 
> Hari ini INCO break previous High, jadi apa musti tunggu
> INCO bisa untung ?.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > BUMI per kemarin membentuk formasi 7white candle dan dengan gap up kemarin. 
> > Juga sempat diperdebatkan apakah ini exhaustion atau continuation gap, 
> > bahkan pak Tirta memberi warning akan terjadi island reversal. 
> > BD ataupun F bukan sinterklas yang serta merta memberi kita gain, ketika 
> > sampai 2000 tadi supply tidak habis2..sempat akan break diisi lagi, ini 
> > berarti ada yang sedang TP, saya tidak tahu apa itu BD besar atau Hedge 
> > Fund, tapi menurut hemat saya Gap itu sepertinya akan ditutup dulu..mereka 
> > kan juga perlu TP, dan akumulasi lagi di bawah..ada baiknya kita tunggu 
> > senin, kalau harga ke bawah, tidak ada salahnya kita tunggu di support gap
> > 
> > Kemarin hal yang sama terjadi di INCO, supply tidak habis2..dan gap 
> > berhasil ditutup hari ini, bahkan bonus bullish engulfing..btw, pak Hans, 
> > pak JT, gimana INCO?thx
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"  > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kita punya 2 hari weekend untuk menganalisanya, disamping
> > > menunggu kelanjutan DJI yg kemarin koreksi dan pengumuman Capres,
> > > 
> > > Jadi masing masing pikirkan dulu dan kasih analisanya sebelum
> > > Senin, oke ?.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lucky Trader  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maksud kalimat terakhir apa Mbah ?
> > > > Apa "Bakri's Show" akan berlanjut minggu depan ?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 5/8/09, jsx_consultant  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yang embah catat dari index +13 ampe +33 (naik 20 point)
> > > > > - BUMI -2%
> > > > > - ASII +7,2%
> > > > > - ANTM +9,8%
> > > > > - TINS +13,8%
> > > > > - INCO +6,7%
> > > > > - INTP +6,1%
> > > > > - INKP +9,2%
> > > > >
> > > > > Terlihat BD berusaha kuat menjaga kehatuhan BUMI dengan
> > > > > mengangkat IHSG dan index mining, Mungkin ini musti
> > > > > dipikirkan.. .
> > > > >
> > > > > Tapi karena ini Week End, dan pesta group Bakrie masih
> > > > > terjadi hari ini, enjoy aja dulu deh...
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com  >

Re: [ob] Re: Fw: FOCUS (08-May-2009) BNBR: For those who miss the rally

[Andre Andre]

71-80 saya percaya mbah...100 bahaya bisa resesi lagihehehe

GBU all





From: jsx_consultant 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 7:17:39 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: Fw: FOCUS (08-May-2009) BNBR: For those who miss the rally





Baca pdf researh Mandiri dibawah ini:

- BUMI fair price 1815, hari ini 1960. Masih cocok dibanding yg
kasih cuman 500... hehehe...
- UNSP fair price 250, hari ini 690. Ada yg punya research
pembanding untuk UNSP ?.
- BTEL fair price 68, hari ini 107.
- ENRG fair price 180, hari ini 280.
- ELTY fair price 250, hari ini 210
- BNBR fair price 106 based on fair price anak perusahan,
fair price 129 based on market price anak perusahaan hari ini.

Cuman ELTY dan BNBR yang belum mencapai Fair price.

Kalo EL mau BNBR akhir tahun menjadi 400, maka saham
anak perusahaan harus naik = 400/129 = 3,1 kali.

Jadi akhir tahun:
- BUMI harus menjadi = 3,1 x 1960 = 6076
- UNSP = 3,1 X 690 = 2139
- dst.

Target BNBR EL sangat berat sekali kecuali minyak balik 
diatas 100 dollar.

Ada yg percaya minyak balik ke 100 pada akhir tahun ?.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, indra affandi  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For those who miss the rally
> 
> BNBR’s listed
> subsidiaries, which contribute 84.5% to BNBR value, have experienced average
> 142.9% stock price rally for the last 1 month while BNBR stock price only
> increased by 66.0%. Debt restructuring amounting to Rp4.26tn relaxed
> solvability pressure by lengthening debt maturity date. Beside that, SPIJ 
> sale,
> resulted in US$55.5mn additional cash, strengthened the company’s cash
> position. The stock is undervalued with current market price putting BNBR as 
> if
> it o nly had BUMI and ELTY, neglecting the remaining listed and non-listed
> subsidiaries. Using SOTP method, we deem BNBR fair price of Rp129/share based
> on market price and Rp106/share based on our estimated fair price on listed
> subsidiaries’ values.
> 
> Lower solvability risk. The company
> entered into debt restructuring agreement that provides some relaxation after
> high solvability tension resulting from its Rp4.26tn obligation to Northstar
> consortium which originally scheduled to mature this year. Basically, this 
> debt
> restructuring agreed on (1) lengthening debt maturity (Rp310bn on 2009, and
> Rp3.95tn on 2012), and (2) charging interest expense (15.0%-19.0% ) that will 
> be
> deferred and paid as a bullet payment along with principal maturity.
> 
> Stronger cash position. In late April
> 2009, the company sold 24.5% ownership in SPIJ, steel pipe manufacture
> subsidiary, raising US$55.5mn cash. We view it positively because (1) SPIJ has
> been less profitable relative to BNBR’s listed subsidiaries, and (2) the
> proceeds ensure the company’s solvability to meet its Rp279.0bn tranche B
> debt which l matures on Sept 2009.
> 
> Buy BNBR, get UNSP, BTEL,
> and ENRG for free! A check on BNBR value composition reveals
> that at the current price of Rp83/share, BNBR value is approximately equal to
> its ownership only in BUMI and ELTY. Therefore, rather than collecting all of
> BNBR’s subsidiaries stocks individually, it would be more profitable to
> acquire them collectively by buying BNBR shares. Moreover, investors would get
> not only its listed subsidiaries, but also its non-listed infrastructure
> subsidiaries. These non-listed subsidiaries have already won several
> infrastructure projects which are expected to start in the next couple of
> years, once the economy recovers.
> 
> Valuation. We derived
> BNBR’s fair price using SOTP method. We apply a book-value multiple of
> 1.0x to value the non-listed subsidiaries. For listed subsidiaries, we use
> market prices and Mandiri Sekuritas’ fair price estimate separately
> (except for ENRG that uses consensus fair price estimate because it is outside
> our coverage). Market price-based SOTP results in BNBR fair price of
> Rp129/share while fair price-based SOTP results in BNBR fair price of
> Rp106/share. 
> 
> What are the risks?Main risks in
> investing on BNBR stock are changes in ownership on its subsidiaries and
> commodity price fluctuation that heavily impacted BUMI, UNSP and ENRG
> performance. 
> 
> 
> Yohan Setio
> +6221
> 5296 9548
> yohan.setio@ ...
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> +62 21 527 5711
> Phone:
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Re: [ob] Re: Apakah seorang SOROS bisa salah ?

[Andre Andre]

bear rally doesn't last for weeks ...if the market could go low and lower for 
months like last year until this march, why can't the market rally to go high 
and higher for months too...even Soros is a human being just like us,he could 
be wrong too...but anyway only God knows whether this is a bear or bull rally, 
but i hope this is a real bull rally ahahahha

GBU all

   


  

Re: [ob] DATA NGACO !

[Andre Andre]

Ini si Bozz lg ngacauin data biar pada ga bisa analisa buat besok...zzz Bozz2 
mau dibawa naik kbrp neh index Bozz2?

GBU all





From: ALX™ 
To: "obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:00:52 PM
Subject: [ob] DATA NGACO !





Dimana-mana data ngaco...
gak bisa nganalisis deh buat besok   :((

-- 
Salam
ALX™

   


  

Re: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)

[Andre Andre]

Go to h##l hahahahhaha





From: Ratu Sima 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:27:22 PM
Subject: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)





THIS IS PRECURSOR OF THE REBORN BEAR.

As overall markets have reached overbought culmination, the choice is: 
Enjoy the bear or pretend don't know.

Sliding target: S&P 500 800.

The 7 Wonders of Woven Stock (BG) will be first subjects for acquisition.

THANK U & GOOD LUCK.

Lieutenant Aimee,
OC Commander-In- Chief



   


  

Re: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)

[Andre Andre]

Kl saya liat BUMI ada yang timpuk kiri makan kanan sendiri...anyway there are a 
few institute who had already upgraded BUMI to buy from hold or sell their 
minimum target the lowest is by Rp2.600 and MA200 is not so far away from the 
current price so it might happen... hopefully it will break the MA200 and just 
like other Bakrie's stocks that touched MA200 and spiked like hell...hahahaha

Gbu all...





From: "cahyonob...@gmail.com" 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:40:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)





Sy malah ngarepin gap bwh tutup dulu prof


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From:  "JsxTrader" 
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:37:10 +0700
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)

Hehe, udah tenang-tenang aja..., sdh sering kita kayak begini bukan? IHSG 
sengaja di biarin turun (bukan ditekan), liat volume INDEX MOVER ! nothing 
special…, I CAN ASSURE YOU that there was not a  SELL OFF, itu Cuma mancing 
orang keluar dari BUMI…, kenapa??? BD BUMI itu lagi BULLISH berat…, so they 
have to MAKE SURE ngga ada gangguan diatas 2175.., caranya gimana??…, turunin 
aje harga, supaya yg udah pada siap nimpukin pada mabur… , timingnya di 
pass-pass’in sama koreksi DOW…. hehe…, istilah disini, nurunin penumpang….. 
apakah ini distribusi?? ? NO WAY…, mana bisa distribusi index lagi minus 3%
 
Coba lihat CHART BUMI…, liat VOLUME-NYA, lihat pakai intraday.., nanti keliatan 
yg buang sore-sore ngga signifikan !!
 
JT
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On Behalf Of pavinee tangmanomana
Sent: 14 Mei 2009 16:17
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)
 



dow fut +18

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, JsxTrader  wrote:

From: JsxTrader 
Subject: RE: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 4:11 AM
Biasa itu.., masak mau cuan   mulu, harus siap nyangkut dong.., tenang aja,
gak ada sell off hari ini, itu Cuma trader harian yg CL sore-sore.., hehe.

Not Bad lah..., cuan disesi 1, nyangkut di sesi 2..., the game is not over,
terpaksa bungkus dah... hehe, 

DO NOT PANIC Guys.., it is just how it works, ada up, ada down.., yg penting
we are still in BULLISH market.., examine your chart !

Regards,

JT

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of sulistyo_winarto
Sent: 14 Mei 2009 15:55
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)

Wah kayaknya Prof JT nyangkut nih. nubie ikutan donk. becanda bozz. Salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "JsxTrader"wrote:
>
> HOHOHO.. Buru-buru amat nongolnya.., nantilah sabar dikit dong, mosok   ngga
> tau ini Masih BULLISH !!
> 
> 
> 
> JT
> 
> 
> 
> jsc.png
> 
> 
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
> On Behalf Of Ratu Sima
> Sent: 14 Mei 2009 15:27
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> THIS IS PRECURSOR OF THE REBORN BEAR.
> 
> As overall markets have reached overbought culmination, the choice is: 
> Enjoy the bear or pretend don't know.
> 
> Sliding target: S&P 500 800.
> 
> The 7 Wonders of Woven Stock (BG) will be first subjects for   acquisition.
> 
> THANK U & GOOD LUCK.
> 
> Lieutenant Aimee,
> OC Commander-In- Chief
>

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Re: KZ! Gocekan atau Koreksi ..Re: [ob] JPMorgan Sees Potential for US...

[Andre Andre]

CLSA is a good at short play and they have the sources to do that...last year 
they were shorting the market when JSX collapsed and made quite lots of $$$...

GBU all





From: SeViouR Al 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:44:23 PM
Subject: Re: KZ! Gocekan atau Koreksi ..Re: [ob] JPMorgan Sees Potential for 
US...





Mbah, iseng2 tadi liat broker transaksi ternyata KZ ngejual BUMI sampe ratusan 
Milyar hari ini. Berikut adalah cuplikannya 5 besar transaksi KZ hari ini:


No
Code
Total Freq
Total Volume
Total Value
Buy Freq
Buy Volume
Buy Value
Sell Freq
Sell Volume
Sell Value
1 BUMI 785 114.470 119.272.250. 000 0 0 0 785 114.470 119.272.250. 000 
2 ANTM 1.191 49.411 45.412.595.000 0 0 0 1.191 49.411 45.412.595.000 
3 TLKM 346 8.169 28.961.400.000 0 0 0 346 8.169 28.961.400.000 
4 ASII 174 2.764 25.346.400.000 0 0 0 174 2.764 25.346.400.000 
5 TINS 384 17.114 16.020.415.000 0 0 0 384 17.114 16.020.415.000 
Ada yang tau kah apa maksudnya si KZ sampe 'SELL OFF' sebesar itu?? atau ada 
tanda2 alamkah? mohon terawangannya Mbah.

Terima kasih.





From: jsx_consultant 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:21:37 PM
Subject: Gocekan atau Koreksi ..Re: [ob] JPMorgan Sees Potential for US...


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"  
wrote:
>
> Bursa tidak mungkin naik tanpa henti, tentu ada:
> - Gocekan kecil dan
> - Koreksi

IHSG hari ini turun -66. Apakah ini Gocekan atau Koreksi ?.

Bursa sudah 4 hari distribusi tapi faktor lainnya ada di US/DJI.

Kita bahas nanti malam setelah Market US buka ?. Karena
sentimennya datang dari SONO...

> 
> Melihat kenaikan IHSG yg spectakuler dan didahului 2 kocokan
> sebelumnya yaitu:
> - Wave 1 (Sumpah pemuda), lalu koreksi
> - Wave 3 (Brigade 1089), lalu koreksi
> - Wave 5 (project wave 5) dan ternyata masih naik LAGI (EXTENDED).
> 
> Melihat GAGAHnya Wave 5 EXTENDED, perhitungan Elliott Wave
> menggunakan Computer sepertinya salah. Dan yg benar sekarang
> adalah Wave 3.
> 
> Meramalkan Wave 3 IHSG ini akan berhenti dimana agak susah karena
> DJI yg belum berhasil keluar dari DOWNTREND CHANNEL, saat ini
> DJI sudah turun lagi ke 8300. 
> - http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ pwldjiazz. png (belum update).
> 
> Selama tiga hari terakhir memang ada distribusi:
> - Tapi bisa dibilang kecil, jadi kemungkinan akan ada Gocekan
> - Tapi jika distribusi berlanjut dan IHSG tidak berhasil break
>   1891, maka kita memasuki Correction Wave (bukan gocekan lagi).
> 
> Jadi WASPADA SAJA, apalagi jika DJI turun terus !!!
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei  wrote:
> >
> > Bear rally? After all these gains...dan pejabat2 US pun bilang resesi sdh
> > berakhir.
> > Ini rasanya yg menjadi pertanyaan setiap OBers bukan? :)
> > Mbah, menurut Mbah gimana?
> > 
> > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:09 PM, andref_r  wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > JPMorgan Sees Potential for US, Asian Stock Rise
> > > Topics:Recession | Economy (Global) | North America | Asia | Market 
> > > Outlook
> > > | Investment Strategy | Earnings | Nasdaq | NYSE | Stock Picks | Stock
> > > Market
> > > Sectors:Financial Services | Technology | Banks
> > > Companies:JPMorgan Chase and Co
> > > By: Reuters | 13 May 2009 | 05:04 AM ET
> > >
> > > JPMorgan said U.S. stocks could rise 20 percent and most Asian stock
> > > markets could gain 25 percent by the end of 2009 amid growing signs the
> > > global recession may be nearing an end.
> > >
> > > "The global recession is almost over. June would mark an end of the U.S.
> > > recession," Jan Loeys, head of global asset allocation, told reporters at 
> > > an
> > > event in Taipei on Wednesday.
> > >
> > > "I know at this point money is flowing to risky assets. Momentum is
> > > significantly going to recovery types of trade," such as stocks, Loeys 
> > > said.
> > >
> > > Foreign investors, after a six-month drought, have been sending billions 
> > > of
> > > dollars back to Asia, a trend some expect to continue on hopes China will
> > > lead the region out of the global recession.
> > >
> > > "Our confidence in China's market is getting stronger and stronger. 
> > > China's
> > > domestic consumption has been picking up since March," said Frank Gong,
> > > chief China strategist of the U.S. firm.
> > >
> > > "Chinese consumers dared to buy properties and cars when people in other
> > > countries were tightening their spending amid the global economic 
> > > slowdown,"
> > > Gong said. "If China's GDP growth hits 10 percent in Q2 and in Q3, as
> > > investors are expecting, its stock market should be okay."
> > >
> > > Taiwan stocks, among the world's top performing markets along with China 
> > > so
> > > far this year, received an upgrade from JPMorgan, which predicted the main
> > > index will finish this year at 8,000 points, up from 6,000 previously
> > > forecast, partly due to improving ties between Taiwan and China.
> > 

Re: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (gombal amoh) ratu sima

[Andre Andre]

Sima u poor little girlanyway u can say whatever u wanted to but only God 
knows what happen next or whether this is bear or bull...not even the greatest 
hedge fund knows this is bull or bear,just enjoy the ride all the way to the 
maxin my opinion this correction is healthy, we cant expect to move up 
everydayits get even more dangerous when people get greedy they use more 
margin to leverage and make the market not realmaybe this is just a margin 
cleaning day or shock therapy for marginer(I HOPE).hahahahaha


GBU all





From: FromBuitenzorg 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:52:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (gombal amoh) ratu sima





Walah ratu sima... kita liat besok deh,... gombal amoh :)

Rgrds

wrote:
>
> Dear Aimee,
> 
> This time, I critize that your message is rather bias and somehow smell less 
> confidence than before. Still too premature to conclude that the market will 
> be bearish, with just only -3% today. 
> 
> Here and there peoples still cheered up with "less" negative news. Even if 
> you focus on China, over coming months there will be possibility of a spike 
> in inflation, because Chinese banks are pumping enormous amounts of liquidity 
> into the economy, extending more than 5T! yuan in the Q1 2009, MORE than in 
> all of last year. Many forecasts think China's economy will accelerate in the 
> Q2 after the first quarter's 6.1% expansion. That will push upward pressure 
> on prices, especially as you know well: coal, metal and cpo. Indonesia, of 
> course, will gain benefit from these factors. 
> 
> Any counter comment?
> 
> Rgds,
> Yuta
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Big Man 
> 
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:04:31 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)-to ratu sima
> 
> 
> Kepada yth Ratu Sima: Apakah S&P tidak akan menyentuh angka keramat"666" 
> ?Berapa target IHSG?Apakah setelah itu IHSG mulai REVERSAL memulai WAVE C 
> atau masuk WAVE 1 for DJIA?TqB4 and ILVU FULL.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  _ _ __
> From: Ratu Sima 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:27:22 PM
> Subject: [ob] OPERATION CAKRABIRAWA (PART 2)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> THIS IS PRECURSOR OF THE REBORN BEAR.
> 
> As overall markets have reached overbought culmination, the choice is: 
> Enjoy the bear or pretend don't know.
> 
> Sliding target: S&P 500 800.
> 
> The 7 Wonders of Woven Stock (BG) will be first subjects for acquisition.
> 
> THANK U & GOOD LUCK.
> 
> Lieutenant Aimee,
> OC Commander-In- Chief
>


   


  

Re: [ob] bakri PANIC SELLING

[Andre Andre]

asik dapat brg muraDONT PANIC

Gbu all





From: www.titan 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:23:03 PM
Subject: [ob] bakri PANIC SELLING





bumi-6%
bnbr -9%
elty -19%

dewa -13%


   


  

Re: [ob] Re: Gocekan atau Koreksi .. --> To Pak Oen

[Andre Andre]

Bumi candle for today is beautiful in my opinion(I hope i'm right)...check out 
historical chart and u'll find out

GBU all





From: "arisugiarto.sant...@gmail.com" 
To: OB 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:34:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Gocekan atau Koreksi .. --> To Pak Oen





Pak oen
Tadi saya lihat reksadana makinta mantap bulan lalu ada porto BUMI lho.padahal 
setahu saya sdh lama reksadana gak ada yg pegang BUMI sejak kasus repo yg lalu.
Good sign kah?tapi fortis,schrooder setahu saya belum pegang bumi di top 5 
porto mereka.
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From:  "Provokator Saham" 
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:33:10 -
To: 
Subject: [ob] Re: Gocekan atau Koreksi .. --> To Pak Oen

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Aria Santoso"  
wrote:
>
> Pak Oentoeng Yth,
> "Yg ptg skrg ini sy berpikir BUMI sedang mengarah ke BAWAH." --> agenda
> untuk mencapai setengah dari harga tertinggi apakah masih tetap akan
> dijalankan?
> 

Sejauh ini masih...
Khan koreksi skrg ini masih wajar
Cuman KASAR, hahahaha
Yg paling sy takuti itu kl MSN mereka "cedera" itu saja...

> Saya akan siapkan ember buat nampungin muntahan orang panik  :)
> 
> 


   


  

Re: [ob] Re: Skenario Minggu Depan

[Andre Andre]

Tenang saja pak Arif, berdoa saja sama Yang Maha Kuasa duit bapak bisa 
balik asal sabar sajasemua orang yg pernah masuk ke dunia saham pasti 
pernah rugi bohong kalo ga pernah...Love your family and spend more time with 
themtime will make you smile..im sure of that cause i've been on your 
position before...

GBU and family





From: Lucky Trader 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:09:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Skenario Minggu Depan





My Friend ARIF,

Asal anda tidak beli warrant, lebih baik biarkan saja dan jangan cut loss.
InsyaAllah sebelum akhir tahun uang anda akan kembali + Bonus.
Sekarang, mending jangan lihat running trade atau aktifitas yg berhub dg 
persahaman.
Kalau anda punya kegiatan lain, lebih aktif disana, apalagi yg bersifat sosial 
atau kerohanian. Kalau anda sudah berkeluarga, lihatlah dalam2 wajah anak2 anda 
tatkala mereka tertidur, you'll see heaven there dan itu karunia terbesar dlm 
hidup anda.

PLEASE JANGAN CUT LOSS, JUST LEAVE IT,
SEBELUM AKHIR TAHUN, BOLEH DITENGOK => HOPEFULLY, YOU WILL HAVE A BIII 
SMILE.

So, santai aja pak, tahun 2008 jauh lebih parah.

GutLak
-LT


2009/5/15 




Turut simpati pak arif..
Mungkin ada baiknya utk tidak cut loss dulu, biarkan tetap jadi potensi 
kerugian. Karena mungkin saja dalam sebulan kedepan potensi kerugian tersebut 
menjadi real profit. jadi skema sedikit berubah dari daily trader jadi monthly 
investor.. Good luck sir Arif
ferio,
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From:  "**traders9090* *" 
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:27:31 +0700

To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Skenario Minggu Depan

waduh sedih saya dengar-nya,
tapi saya belum bisa kasih saran banyak, saya jg baru 8 bulan masuk di
trading, dan sudah kejeblos lebih dr 50% waktu Oktober tahun lalu. (tp
sekarang sih sudah balik atas bimbingan teman2 OB)

saran saya, jangan semua ditumpahkan di trading pak, keranjang-nya
harus dibagi (deposito atau reksadana terproteksi gitu)
selain itu, seperti saran pak Rei, di saham jg harus dibagi antara
yang memang stabil + gorengan

coba deh tanya sama pak JT besok; saya jg minggu lalu "dimarahi" pak
JT karena taruh terlalu banyak di gorengan, dia bilang max 20% dari
total porto

sabar ya pak, semoga cepat kembali.
asal sabar, disiplin, dan diijinkan sama yg diatas, pasti bisa pak
saya sudah alami itu

salam

2009/5/15 arif S.T. :
>
>
> Thanks Pak JT..
>
> Pengen nangis rasanya modal cuma satu2nya disini, itu juga modal dari
> PHK 2 minggu lalu karena perusahaan sedang morat-marit krn krisis.
>


   


  

Re: Bls: JANGAN RACUNI...Re: Bls: [ob] Sebuah Hikmah : The Black Friday

[Andre Andre]

Trading is not gambling...only loser who says trading is gambling or those who 
cant afford to lose on the market...people do trading with money...where the 
money come from? from their hard work...then they want to make more money so 
they do trading or investing on the marketthen they make money again or 
maybe lose money but its ok cause there is always market everyday and there is 
always risk and reward everywhere not only market even real businesses are 
considered as speculation, u cant do business if u do not dare to speculate to 
open the business...as long they know the risk vs reward its not considered as 
gambling... come on everyone is trading/investing with their own money so its 
up to them watever they want to do with it or whoever they want to give it 
to

GBU all





From: swan silo 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:56:27 PM
Subject: Bls: JANGAN RACUNI...Re: Bls: [ob] Sebuah Hikmah : The Black Friday





Pak, kalau bursa efek adalah judi sudah pasti dong dilarang oleh pemerintah dan 
MUI pasti sudah ribut2 melarang adanya BURSA EFEK.ini adalah dagang yaitu 
jual dan beli ..dimana unsur judinya.?... kalau menurut bapak 
ini adalah judi (SESUAI DENGAN PEMAHAMAN BAPAK) dan sekiranya bapak juga ikut 
bermain saham (jual beli)  berarti bapak adalah penjudi? .kenapa bapak ikut 
bermain judi?... ...apakah untuk .menyuap, membeli narkoba, membeli sex dll 
? 

Kalau Bapak bukan ahli agama kenapa Bapak berani mengatakan ini adalah judi 
atau sama dengan Judi?
Apa sih kompetensi Bapak?

Untuk menambah pemahaman Bapak, copet mencopet hanyalah istilah untuk membeli 
diharga bawah dan jual diharga atas.itu saja

MUDAH2AN BAPAK TIDAK/BUKAN  PEMAIN (JUAL BELI) SAHAM

MAAF PAK KAMI BUKAN PENJUDI 


Pak LUCKY TRADER teruskan niat baik Bapak... ..





Dari: frento suharto 
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Sabtu, 16 Mei, 2009 11:39:24
Topik: JANGAN RACUNI...Re: Bls: [ob] Sebuah Hikmah : The Black Friday


Semoga yang anda tulis adalah benar adanya. Janganlah memberi racun pada 
keluarga yang anda sayangi dan anak yatim yg hidupnya kurang beruntung, dengan 
uang HASIL JUDI anda.
Yang mereka harapkan bukanlah bermilyar milyar USD atau sekarung emas, hasil 
JUDI. Saya bukan ahli agama, pada dasarnya memberi uang hasil dari JUDI adalah 
bukan berderma, dan DITENTANG agama apapun.
Uang hasil judi terserah anda mau apakan saja; menyuap, membeli narkoba, 
membeli sex dll, asal jangan berikan mereka pada keluarga yg anda sayangi.

--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Lucky Trader  wrote:


From: Lucky Trader 
Subject: Re: ???Re: Bls: [ob] Sebuah Hikmah : The Black Friday
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 10:51 PM


Just to make clear my friend. Ane beli grp AB bln lalu dan jual jumat
pagi kmrn. Ane gak tau pokoknya ada rasa ingin jual aja. Stlh itu
pingin buy back sore, tp gagal, krn memang gak mahir copet-mencopee,
akhrnya lepas lg. Ya uda ane syukur aja dan sekarng hanpir full cash.
Ane gk tau, kalo ajakan utk berbagi kurang berkenan bagi anda, gak
apa2 koq, moga2 ada hikmah bagi tmn yg lain

On 5/16/09, frento suharto  wrote:
> Saya minta maaf kalau tulisan saya menyinggung perasaaan.
> Saya pikir niat anda adalah keliru, anda jual pagi, beli sore. Atau beli
> pagi, sore jual. Ini adalah bukan teknik investasi. Teknik copet mencopet
> adalah berbeda dengan teknik investasi. Ini mirip teknik spekulasi atau
> judi.
>
> Mungkin saya keliru, hasil dari spekulasi atau judi , kemudian di dermakan
> ke panti asuhan, gereja, mesjid, dimana mereka mereka ini SANGAT MENENTANG
> hal hal yang bersifat JUDI. Anda mencoba mencampur adukan nilai nilai yang
> berbeda.
> Kalau saran saya, sebaiknya keuntungan dari copet mencopet, anda
> habiskan/belikan untuk kebutuhan anda sendiri saja.
>
> Sekali lagi maaf kalau ada kata kata yng menyinggung.
>
> --- On Fri, 5/15/09, swan silo  wrote:
>
> From: swan silo 
> Subject: Bls: [ob] Sebuah Hikmah : The Black Friday
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 8:25 PM
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>   Terima kasih Pakbagus sekalisaya juga dari kemarin udah ada
> niat untuk berbagiutk sumbangan pembangunan mesjid dan ke yatim
> piatu... ...daripada dipake membelanjakan materi yang tidak terlalu
> bermanfaat atau mungkin sudah kita miliki tentunya berbagi pasti lebih
> baik...
>
> Salam
>
> Dari: Lucky Trader 
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar 
> Terkirim: Sabtu, 16 Mei, 2009 06:32:58
> Topik: [ob] Sebuah Hikmah : The Black Friday
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>   Friends just sharing my experience on Black Friday :
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> Setelah oentoeng lumayan dari Group-B, tiba2 ingin rasanya bagi2 buat orang2
> terdekat yg membutuhkan. Beberapa kali keinginan itu tertunda dg alasan yg
> tidak jeals. Akhirnya hari Kamis tanpa ba-bi-bu, ane transfer uang ke Nyokap
> (Mertu). Nyokap surprise, a

Re: [ob] Re: Hold or CL

[Andre Andre]

Bumi Friday's candle is a kicker and fundamentally it's still the cheapest 
among the sector, that's all i can say...look at past charts when this kind of 
candle appear on a stock

Disclaimer always on

GBU all







  

Re: [ob] Barton prediksi ihsg 1100 h and s

[Andre Andre]

who is barton?





From: Kidod25 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 9:43:46 PM
Subject: [ob] Barton prediksi ihsg 1100 h and s





Tadi coba2 iseng buka website om barton, pola h n s akan membuat ihsg ke 1100 
hingga akhir tahun setelah itu fly. Kalau bener gini mendingan beli apa ya?

salam


   


  

Re: Schizoprenia Manic Depressive.....Re: [ob] Wave 4 is going up from low

[Andre Andre]

Choose:
1. Bull
2. Bear

I choose bull til 20xx hahaha

GBU all





From: "anru.s...@gmail.com" 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:21:01 PM
Subject: Re: Schizoprenia Manic Depressive..Re: [ob] Wave 4 is going up 
from low





Hahaha Bener jg ya.  Herannya ngumpul di warungnya mbah semua. 
Kalau orang awam pasti ada tambahan komentar : Ngomongnya ngawur. Pakai grafik 
sendiri2 yg diyakini dan berbeda2 pula :D

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From:  "jsx_consultant" 
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:58:10 -
To: 
Subject: Schizoprenia Manic Depressive.. ...Re: [ob] Wave 4 is going up from low

Apanya yg SURPRISE, cuman tinggal ngebalikin omongan orang sakit
jiwa  hihihi

Bursa itu penuh ama orang sakit Schizoprenia Manic Depressive,
yaitu orang yg punya kelain jiwa, sebentar bull sebentar bear.

Udah tiga kali dalam seminggu, BD ngerjain orang yg sakit
Schizoprenia Manic Depresive.

Apakah besok jadi yg ke 4 ?. Sayang embah engga bisa nyaksiin
musti keluar kota selama 3 hari 

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9  wrote:
>
> 
> hari ini market bikin surprise ya mbah... ha ha ha ha..
> 
> 
> suer, kali ini ane beneran kagak tau..
> 
> besok...? 
> 
> banyak permen lagi yang mau di bagikan
> 
> 
> 
> artomoro lagi punya permen banyak nih.. embah mau..?
> 
> 
> 
> --- Pada Sen, 18/5/09, jsx_consultant  menulis:
> 
> Dari: jsx_consultant 
> Topik: Re: [ob] Wave 4 is going up from low
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Tanggal: Senin, 18 Mei, 2009, 1:49 AM
> 
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>   Bursa tinggal 15 menit lagi:
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> - Trading udah terlalu mepet..
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> 
> Embah juga besok mau keluar kota...
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Yohanes Lim"  
> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > so , buy mbah?
> 
> > ada recommend ?
> 
> > 
> 
> >   - Original Message - 
> 
> >   From: jsx_consultant 
> 
> >   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> 
> >   Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 4:08 PM
> 
> >   Subject: Re: [ob] Wave 4 is going up from low
> 
> > 
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> >   HARI INI ENGGA BOLEH BANYAK MIKIR ...
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> > 
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> >   Trade what you SEE and NOT what you THINK...
> 
> > 
> 
> >   Bakrie kuat sekali pak Sudes...
> 
> > 
> 
> >   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Sudeswanto"  
> > wrote:
> 
> >   >
> 
> >   > yang lebih gede dari kemarin-kemarin masih belum lewat...
> 
> >   > 
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> >   > _ 
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> >   > 
> 
> >   > From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- bandar@ 
> > yahoogroups. com]
> 
> >   > On Behalf Of Stock Traders
> 
> >   > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:35 PM
> 
> >   > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> 
> >   > Subject: RE: [ob] Wave 4 is going up from low
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> >   > Maksudnya apa bung DE? Gak yakin bull?
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> >   > 
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> >   > From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- bandar@ 
> > yahoogroups. com]
> 
> >   > On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker
> 
> >   > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:32 PM
> 
> >   > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> 
> >   > Subject: Re: [ob] Wave 4 is going up from low
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> >   > saya blm masuk mbah...
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> >   > parah nih, something wong with my trading plan...
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> >   > 
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> >   > Regards,
> 
> >   > DE
> 
> >   > 
> 
> >   > Pada 18 Mei 2009 14:30, jsx_consultant  
> >   >  centrin.net. id> menulis:
> 
> >   > 
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> >   > IHSG at RESIST
> 
> >   > 
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> >   > Mudah mudahan JEBOL ?
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> >   > http://www.obrolanb 
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> >   > andar.com/piwihsgyy yy.png
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> >   > 
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> >   > 
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> >   > 
> 
> >   > --- In obrolan-bandar@ 
> 
> >   > yahoogroups. .com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
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> >   > >
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> >   > > IHSG update:
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> >   > > http://www.obrolanb 
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> >   > andar.com/piwihsgyy yy.png
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> >   > >
> 
> >   > > - IHSG sudah naik 64 point from LOW, apa nenek bilang... HAHAHA
> 
> >   > > - Near RESIST LINE, ini penentuan !!!
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> >   > >
> 
> >   > >
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> >   > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ 
> 
> >   > yahoogroups. .com, "troyanese"  wrote:
> 
> >   > > >
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> >   > > > kalo sekarang sih DOW F masih minus dalam :D
> 
> >   > > >
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> >   > > >
> 
> >   > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ 
> 
> >   > yahoogroups. .com, "FromBuitenzorg"  wrote:
> 
> >   > > > >
> 
> >   > > > > Mohon maap mbah, itu memang yg hari jum'at,..tapi berdasarkan 
> > hukum
> 
> >   > sebab akibat ada hubungannya dg kita yg ketika itu merah sendirian...
> 
> >   > > > >
> 
> >   > > > > Kira2 arahnya akan revance 

Re: [ob] RE: Schizoprenia Manic Depressive

[Andre Andre]

Tanda2 alam mbah dah banyak barang ditinggal pergi ahahahaha

GBU all





From: JsxTrader 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:36:31 PM
Subject: [ob] RE: Schizoprenia Manic Depressive





Udah.., jangan terlalu NGE-BULL dulu, ntar Ratu Sima nongol lagi
loh…. Hii…….
 
Bsk si Mbah cuti 3 hari…, tanda-tanda alam !!….., Hiii….
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Andre Andre
Sent: 18 Mei 2009 20:32
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: Schizoprenia Manic Depressive.. ...Re: [ob] Wave 4 is going
up from low

Choose:
1. Bull
2. Bear

I choose bull til 20xx hahaha

GBU all
   


  

Re: [ob] Bumi

[Andre Andre]

BUMI 19th May 2009 ada conference call di Wisma  Bakrie entar sore .. moga2 
bagus...amin

GBU all






From: Yaniesbe 
To: Obrolan Bandar 
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:37:37 PM
Subject: [ob] Bumi





Candle Bumi, sama polanya dengan Dewa
 
See u... di 1600.. ?
 
  


 Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda!  
Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
   


  

Re: [ob] India and Hk break highest for the year 2009

[Andre Andre]

Amin





From: nicholas alvin 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:18:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] India and Hk break highest for the year 2009





IHSG bakal menyusul

--- On Tue, 5/19/09, andref_r  wrote:


From: andref_r 
Subject: [ob] India and Hk break highest for the year 2009
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 2:51 AM


GBU all

 

   


  

Re: [ob] benarkah bull trap? : mohon bantuan komennya

[Andre Andre]

Tutup gap tadi pagi BUMI dkk 

GBU all





From: Wisdom Stock Trader 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:50:36 PM
Subject: [ob] benarkah bull trap? : mohon bantuan komennya





Dear traders,

dari kaca mata saya semua sinyal teknikal bagus + data makro OK.

Namun ada beberapa org analis yg saya kenal... disini ada BULL TRAP.


MOHON PERSPEKTIF REKAN2

SALAM HANGAT
DS



 

   


  

Re: [ob] BUMI,ENRG siap tancap gas lagi ?

[Andre Andre]

Cakep deh bumi





From: d_r_m$$ 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; sa...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:56:53 PM
Subject: [ob] BUMI,ENRG siap tancap gas lagi ?





BUMI,ENRG siap tancap gas lagi...?
 

   


  

Re: [ob] minyak naik

[Andre Andre]

???supply berkurang demand ga nambah??? namanya demand kl ga nambah supply ga 
bisa kurang euy

GBU all





From: HS 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:51:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] minyak naik





 
Hati hati terhadap kenaikan minyak dan CPO 
belakangan ini. Karena naiknya harga bukan dikarenakan DEMAND yg bertambah, 
tetapi karena SUPPLY yg berkurang atau dikurangi.
SUPLLY yg berkurang atau dikurangi dan DEMAND yg 
relatif tidak bertambah, tidak baik untuk suatu perusahaan, tidak akan 
meningkatkan profit / laba.
 
Hanya view saya saja.
 
- Original Message - 
From: swan  silo 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ; my_...@yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:28 PM
Subject: [ob] minyak naik

harga minyak naik karena ada masalah pada tangki minyak di nigeria yg di  bom 
oleh pemberontak. ..


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bedanya!  
   


  

Re: [ob] IHSG DONE THE MIRACLE OF TRIANGLE 1,886

[Andre Andre]

Crash?not anytime soon(this week)...its not only Jakarta index that 
strengthen.,other
Asian countries also hit highest of 7 months... IDR strengthen,Foreign
money is coming in...its not everyday our Indexes is controlled by
BDthere are Foreign real buyers(long term investors) are buying and
they have hard cash more than local BDBD can manipulate stocks
for short term but not for longer term...invest2 dont waste fees and
commision on your brokerage/dealer.

just my opinion

God bless u all




From: JsxTrader™ 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:23:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG DONE THE MIRACLE OF TRIANGLE 1,886

Crash? What Crash?? Explaine Pls...

--Original Message--
From: billybudiman20
Sender: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
ReplyTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] IHSG DONE THE MIRACLE OF TRIANGLE 1,886
Sent: May 19, 2009 16:13

heheheh, terbukti juga akhirnya, udah posting sejak kapan ya ? DONE juga hari 
ini deh. Tapi hati2 CRASH kan mau dateng, siap2 SOS

GBU





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Re: [ob] Enaknya IHSG ke 1.900 aja :-)

[Andre Andre]

amin

GBU all





From: hst auto 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:03:04 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] Enaknya IHSG ke 1.900 aja :-)





FEAR while market Greedy, Be Greedy while market FEAR.
saya yakin besok 1900 konfirm tembus!
BUMI dan BC sbg market movernya!
ecek2 menyingkir dulu lah


2009/5/20 FromBuitenzorg 




Ya deh semoga BD baek2 aja... gak mau makin banyak yg nampung pake ember..

Rgrds


hst auto  wrote:
>
> hati2 kalo ngomong dimilist kang.
> BD selalu membuat contrarian dgn membuat market FEAR sebelumnya.
>  focus on your stocks!
> 

> 2009/5/20 FromBuitenzorg 
> 
> >
> >
> > *Makin tidak rasional kalo indeks harus koreksi ke 1600,... Coba liat

> > bloomberg, sekarang duit2 pada keluyuran kemana mana, duit lagi cari duit
> > lagi, makanya koraksi agak jaraang... :)*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Rgrds*
> >
> >
> >
> > Rei  wrote:
> > >
> > > Makin diributkan di milis terus jadi batal dah nih koreksi ke
> > 1600...tarik
> > > mang! :-)
> > > Bandar ntar bikin org yg megang cash gatel dan akhirnya masuk juga haha
> > >
> > > 2009/5/19 datasahamku datasahamku@
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > sptnya banyak yang ribut2 indeks mau ke 1.600...
> > > > terus terang dan terang terus berhubung tadi sy belanja, bagaimana klo
> > > > besok indeks kita Lanjutkan! Lebih Cepat Lebih Baik ke 1.900 :))
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
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>



   


  

Re: [ob] BoZZ lg main sendiri y ?

[Andre Andre]

iya bozz bosen dia ga ada yg mau maen zzz






From: Andreas 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:47:11 PM
Subject: [ob] BoZZ lg main sendiri y ?





Ajak2 donk bozz klo main. Kan ga enak klo main sendiri.


   


  

Re: [ob] CROSSING AZIMUTH

[Andre Andre]

go to hxxl ...zngomong apa sih loe? ga ngerti gw.


GBU all




From: Ratu Sima 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 1:03:30 PM
Subject: [ob] CROSSING AZIMUTH





Xcuse me Gentlemen.

Consensus's been tough to outreach. As Bull has widespread been overbought, the 
closest scenario is bearish OTW. 

The question remains: Where is Emerging Market heading to?

EEM will follow his big brothers, in a bit later mode for sure, soon after it 
reaches TOP. And in "earth", U shall come out & return.

Swimming in the bearish wedge river to its top can still yield something for 
good dinner before kissing June "Goodnight Goodbye" and date July to marry 
August.

So, U choose what? Inverted Head & Shoulder or SIMPLY DOUBLE BOTTOM?

GOOD LUCK!

Ratu Sima,
The United Kingdom of Kalingga





  

Re: [ob] data bei macet

[Andre Andre]

OI BENERIN KALE SISTEM TUH ga guna dasar BEI zz




From: artomoro9 
To: ob 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:43:29 PM
Subject: [ob] data bei macet






pulang yuuukk... BEI macet total.



maen tek tok tik tek jadi susah...
cari recehan tambah susah...



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 Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda!  
Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!



  

Re: [ob] hore .... IJOOOOO!!!!

[Andre Andre]

From: d' Coffino 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:20:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] hore  merah!





Wah SELAMAT bagi yang embernya penuh tadi sore...
Untung sedikit ikutan 'berbahagia' tadi 
DOW ngamuk nih!!!

On 5/26/09, ARRAY27  wrote:
> Emang  klo merah mau ngapain?  Belanja lagi? Bengong pegang cash? PT/CL?
> Sudah
> kebanyakan belanja ini hari ??? Nampung buangan. Gimana besok? Lusa? Yang
> penting akhirnya saja, pengen lihat IHSG kepala 2 lagi.
>
> Pada 26 Mei 2009 13:44, tjoa_to_hing  menulis:
>
>>
>>
>> mbah merah mbah!
>> tunjukkan merah mu!!!
>>
>>
>>
>




  

Re: [ob] Ntar lagi juga terbang smua -- IDR Vs IHSG

[Andre Andre]

tuh cakep terbang fly2...HSI naek 750cakep

GBU all




From: HS 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:49:34 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] Ntar lagi juga terbang smua -- IDR Vs IHSG





The HF is starting to flow out ?
 
Nebak+nakuti. com
 
- Original Message - 
From: Yudizz 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:42  AM
Subject: RE: [ob] Ntar lagi juga terbang  smua -- IDR Vs IHSG

Hati2, perhatikan  pergerakan IDR...!!
IHSG naik tajam kok  IDR malah melemah….
Regards,
Yudizz


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
] On Behalf Of andref_r
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:32  AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Ntar lagi juga terbang  smua




HSI udah  maen gila break higher than beforehahahaha



  

Re: [ob] akhirnya JSX 1902

[Andre Andre]

cakep dah 1902tinggal besok hasi MAPPI BUMIwill BUMI bring BEI back to 
2000 above like last time?the answer is

1.Yes
2.No

GBU all




From: tirta858 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:01:12 PM
Subject: [ob] akhirnya JSX 1902





oem





  

Re: [ob] SOFT DISTRIBUTION.....Re: To Embah...masih outflow ??

[Andre Andre]

BUMI will be back soon..

GBU all




From: pavinee tangmanomana 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:05:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] SOFT DISTRIBUTION.Re: To Embah...masih outflow ??





  
LONDON (AP) -- Oil extended gains above $65 a barrel Friday to reach a fresh 
six-month high after the U.S. reported a fall in oil inventories and further 
signs of economic improvement.
Benchmark crude for July delivery was up 67 cents to $65.75 a barrel by late 
morning in Europe in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. On 
Thursday, the contract rose $1.63 to settle at $65.08, a six-month high and 
almost double the lows reached in March, when it fell below $35 a barrel.
The Energy Department's Energy Information Administration on Thursday said U.S. 
oil supplies dropped unexpectedly by 5.4 million barrels last week. Though 
crude inventories remain near 19-year highs, it was the third week in a row 
that supplies have fallen.
Investors were also cheered by signs the U.S. recession may be bottoming out. 
The government reported Thursday that demand for big-ticket manufactured goods 
in April had its biggest jump in 16 months. It was the second increase in the 
past three months and came after separate data showed the number of newly 
laid-off people requesting jobless benefits fell last week.
"We've got a lot more optimism about the economic outlook than we did," said 
Toby Hassall, an analyst with Commodity Warrants Australia in Sydney. "The 
market is factoring in a recovery in demand by the end of the year."
"But there's no real evidence that demand is picking up at this point."
The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries said Thursday at a meeting in 
Vienna that it will keep output levels unchanged. OPEC announced production 
cuts of 4.2 million barrels a day between September and January, but has kept 
output steady since then.
"The fragile status of the world economy was given as the main reason for the 
decision," analysts at JBC Energy wrote in a report. "However, OPEC's 
communique also pointed out that supply is still exceeding demand with oil 
inventories around the world close to record highs."
The JBC analysts say that because supply remains so high, another OPEC 
production cut is likely, possibly at the next meeting in September.
--- On Fri, 5/29/09, jsx_consultant  wrote:


From: jsx_consultant 
Subject: [ob] SOFT DISTRIBUTION. Re: To Embah...masih outflow ??
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 6:26 AM


Sebagian orang mau distribusi sih wajar aja, udah untung gede
jadi mau dicashkan dulu sambil nunggu DJI mau naik lagi atau
turun lagi.

Kenaikan harga commodity sebagian dikarenakan oleh melemahnya
USD. Tapi yg berbahaya jika kenaikan harga commodity ini adalah
'permainan' untuk menutupi akan jatuhnya index Dowjones 
seperti yg lalu lalu. Ini belum jelas tapi juga harus 
dipertimbangkan.

Kenaikan suku bunga Treasury note, kenaikan harga minyak,
melemahnya USD dan hiperinflasi akan memperlambat recovery Ekonomi Amerika.

INI SEMUA adalah tanda tanya besar bagi index Dowjones tapi
jika market yakin bahwa resesi akan berakhir meskipun pada
akhir tahun, index Dowjones akan bisa bertahan karena investor
tidak akan melepas portfolionya jika mereka yakin resesi akan
berakhir thn 2009 karena Investor kan punya horizon jangka panjang.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Yuta"  wrote:
>
> Mbah,
> 
> Apakah scenario distribusi ini bisa dihubung2kan dengan beberapa peristiwa 
> berikut:
> 1. Due short time hedge fund 3 bulan (sekitar awal Juni) 
> 2. Bangkrutnya GM (nggak tahu kebetulan)
> 3. Jatuhnya harga treasury notes
> 4. Menunggu harga oil turun (menurut saya, harga oil naik bukan karena push 
> by the demand, tapi spekulator lebih berperan karena banyak tanker yg 
> mengapung di laut mengangkut ratusan juta barrel, ini yg ditrading)
> 
> Mohon penjelasannya. 
> -Original Message-
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> 
> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:49:18 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] SOFT DISTRIBUTION. Re: To Embah...masih outflow ??
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Multikartu Network  network@> wrote:
> >
> > Mbah,
> > Maaf masih newbie, bisa lebih jelas lagi nggak ? Sampe sekarang masih
> > dipinggir lapangan, tapi kalo liat lainnya pada main di lapangan jadinya
> > pengen main juga. Kalo mainnya nahan sebulan duabulan lepas,udah benar nggak
> > caranya kalo waktunya sekarang ini ? Apa ini "hari sudah dekat" ? Thank you
> > Mbah!
> > 
> 
> Kalo anda yakin DJI bisa ke 9000, buy lagi...
> 
> Kalo anda tidak yakin, cuman untuk trading doang...
> 
> - Negative side:
> DJI ini bikin rumit karena masih dibawah pengaruh DOWNTREND
> CHANNEL, jadi potensi turun masih ADA, liat gambarnya di web embah.
> 
> - Positive side:
> Saat ini lagi distribusi tapi barang BD masih banyak, jadi kalo
> DJI turun dalam, IHSG akan turun secara lambat atau turun naik
> volatile dengan trend turun

Re: [ob] Re: Banyak yg nyangkut di TRUB di 190 ya...!!!!!

[Andre Andre]

smua saham jg ada tukang gorengnya(market maker)...tapi kl trub gorengnya pake 
minyak high kolestrol ahahhaa kl yg blue chips pake olive oil

GBU all




From: Coderman 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:09:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Banyak yg nyangkut di TRUB di 190 ya...!





Wa Trub ane di katain gorengan  :<

trub  barang bagus bill suatu saat waktu akan membuktikan . semua saham juga di 
goreng la apapun itu namanya . emang bisa joget2 ndiri klo gak ada yg 
ngegoyangin 


hehe2


On 5/29/09, billy_wta  wrote:



Untuk kasus TRUB , mungkin rule 3 % or 5 % bisa dipake tadi. Jadi pas  off high 
3 % from 197, sekitar 191 lah, mestinya jual dulu

Yah, namanya gorengan, suka2 yg goreng deh

GBU

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Indra Tj."  wrote:
>
> Saya nyangkut di 187. Welcome nyangkuters. .
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Blackberry®
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Greg Hadiwinata" 
> 
> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:07:13 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] Re: Banyak yg nyangkut di TRUB di 190 ya...!
> 
> 
> Mudah2an aja cuma profit taking sementara... dah naik cukup byk kemarin.
> 
> Sy nyangkut di 191 hehehe...
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Bangbang K W  wrote:
> >
> > Ini distribusi or akumulasi ya..???
> >
>






  

Re: [ob] Target pertumbuhan IHSG

[Andre Andre]

Kl pegang bumi d 70 perak brp duit skarang hahahaha





From: nicholas alvin 
To: ob Obrolan bandar ; Nicholas Alvin 

Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:55:47 PM
Subject: [ob] Target pertumbuhan IHSG





Pertumbuhan ekonomi + inflasi Indonesia selama periode 1999 - 2009 
mencapai 285 %. ( asumsi inflasi + pertumbuhan 2009 sekitar 10.4 % )
IHSG tahun 1999 = terendeh 398 tertinggi 677
IHSG tahun 2009 = target pesimistis 1532
 target optimisits  2606.
Jadi kalau uang kita tabung th 1999 sebesar Rp 10 juta, uang tsb akan
bertumbuh menjadi Rp 38.5 juta akhir th 2009 ini.( dengan inflasi +
pertumbuhan rata2 13.169 % pertahun )
Kalau kita main saham hanya tumbuh 285 %, lebih baik taruh di bank
saja, ngak stress segala.
 

   


  

Re: [ob] earthlings, please have faith. trend is our friend.

[Andre Andre]

mana ada duit bumn buat beli bum2?zzz






From: Ferry Wachjudi 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 6:33:23 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] earthlings, please have faith. trend is our friend.





Kenapa gak diusulin aja ke Jamsostek/BUMN yg 
lain Om??
 
Thanks & Rgds,
Ferry W.
 
http://budidaya- jamur-tiram. blogspot. com/
- Original Message - 
From: Yudizz 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 9:04 PM
Subject: RE: [ob] earthlings, please have  faith. trend is our friend.

Yup, BUMI is  PERFECT in their business, but BAD in management. Sayang 
perusahaan sebagus  itu cuma dijadiin mesin ATM, udah jual aja ke Temasek, 
hahaha…..  (kompor.com)
Regards,
Yudizz
Powered  by BEI Berbullish™


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On Behalf Of Rully
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:45  AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] earthlings, please have  faith. trend is our friend.




Salam,
Oetomo Rully  Susanto
 = ===
“A lot of people die fighting  tyranny. The least I can do is vote against it.”
– Carl Icahn at Texaco  annual meeting. Jan. 20,  1988
 = ===
   


  

Re: [ob] Bakrie koq belum manggung

[Andre Andre]

ntar an smua ada waktunya uhahuahuhauhua





From: Eddie Lieferdian Hasan 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 2:05:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Bakrie koq belum manggung





Cuma bisa bengong liahatin yg lain berjoget 
ria
 
BG JOGET DONG MASA BENGONG AJA
 
 
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Irwan Adi  Triwibowo 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: 2009-06-01 13:55
Subject: RE: [ob] Bakrie koq belum  manggung

Sabar,  sebentar lagi juga manggung. BD sedang berfikir BC mana yang harus  
dikorbanin.
Time will  tell


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On Behalf Of Cougar Boy
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:56  PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Bakrie koq belum  manggung




Baru  sadar nih...
saham bakrie koq belum manggung  ya
1:56
   


  

Re: [ob] Re: My Target IHSG 2009

[Andre Andre]

Jgn 3000...5000 ajaits still the cheapest coal stock herekl ptba itmg 
adro dah mahal...asing aseng lari k bumi smua ehehehe





From: datasahamku 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:17:09 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: My Target  IHSG 2009






Alhamdulilah, IHSG menuju 2.000 semoga Dow Jones break out ke 8.700...sekarang 
BD grup Bakrie baru akumulasi karena BD ga punya barang karena sudah soft 
distribution ...setelah punya banyak maka BUMI ga susah bakal ke 3.000 :))

BD musti ganti strategi karena Market Bulllish yang punya silahkan 
HOLD...yang belum punya saham Bakrie silahkan akumulasi...

note: minyak sedang di goreng menembus US$ 70 so saham2 komoditas bakal rally 
lagi termasuk BUMI 

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "datasahamku"  wrote:
>
> 
> Karena target IHSG 1.900 sudah tercapai pada bulan ini maka sampai akhir 
> tahun 2009 target saya upgrade menjadi 2.370 sesuai dengan Fibbo projection 
> 161.8%...dengan demikian masih ada upside 24% lagi.
>


   


  

Re: [ob] Re: bili.. km ngudak2 brg ya tadi ?

[Andre Andre]

billy bull dnk...its never too late to join the crowd





From: billy_wta 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 8:48:02 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: bili.. km ngudak2 brg ya tadi ?





Gak lah, I kan udah commit mau 80 % cash, jadi tadi liatin aja INDF, UNVR, 
ASII, ITMG, BBNI, GGRM, PTBA beraksi. Kan lumayan tuh naiknya

I lagi nunggu closing dow malam ini, bisa lepas dari bear rally gak ? dan IHSG 
bisa bikin support di 2,000 gak ?

Kalau bisa, I akan jadi BULLISH juga kok, jadi I tergantung sama Dow malam ini

GBU :D

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PiSanG RajA  
wrote:
>
> gak dpt brg murah km ya ?  hiihhii..  just kidding...
>


   


  

Re: [ob] RATU SIMA DECLARE

[Andre Andre]

Billy kayanya GM udah ga terlalu efekits priced in and no longer included 
in DOW30 components...





From: billy_wta 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 9:12:15 PM
Subject: [ob] RATU SIMA DECLARE





Perhatikan perkembangan berita bankruptcy Chrysler and PARTICULARLY GM. Saat 
declaration terjadi, Big Fund akan melakukan shorting secara massive. Sebelum 
itu terjadi, proses distribusi akan terjadi pelan dan halus sambil sekali-kali 
memetik profit dari "bearish-wedge topping process". Tactic mode beralih dr 
"Shun Shou Qian Yang" dan stand by pada "Chen Huo Da Jie" sambil mencermati 
latar. Good luck!

wew, jangan2 nanti malam di US yang udah + 2%, bisa balik jadi turun nih gara2 
anteknya ratu sima, hehehehhehehe. 

GBU


   


  

Re: [ob] Re: RATU SIMA DECLARE

[Andre Andre]

sssttt bill dont talk bout it here not good for u and us





From: billy_wta 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 9:43:37 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: RATU SIMA DECLARE





Ya, takutnya om Prabowo mengulang tragedi 1998 kali, di galery tempat billy 
trading, banyak tuh yang komentar gitu

GBU

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Coderman  wrote:
>
> koreksi dalem : agak sulit terjapai kcuali ada bakar2an bom2an di kampanye
> sebulan ini
> 
> apa lagi kalau pilpres cuman 1 putaran dan pemenangnya disenangi pasar.
> 
> mungkin bila : market maker ngeshort selama seminggu penuh dgn penurunan 90
> point seharinya :D
> 
> 
> 
> 2009/6/1 billy_wta 
> 
> >
> >
> > Kalau Billy 1,630. Om Gema 1,570, nah ratu sima brp yah target koreksinya ?
> >
> > 1,630 gak usah ampe jenggotan kali, kelamaan.
> >
> > GBU
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com  > com>,
> > Bangbang K W  wrote:
> > >
> > > Masih ngarep ke 1630 ya  tunggu saja sampe jenggotan... .
> > >
> > > 2009/6/1 billy_wta 
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > itu di-post sabtu tanggal 30 Mei 2009, masih fresh lah ya, baru 2 hari,
> > > > kita lihat aja aksi ratu sima malam ini,
> > > >
> > > > GBU
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com > > > com> > 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > > > "sylar_fang"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ... udah bbrp hari yg lalu ane baca di FB na ratu sima tuh ...
> > mungkin
> > > > udah basi kali ... lg an ratu sima yg asli blom menunjukkan jati diri
> > na ...
> > > > masa foto asli na aja gak ada ... jgn2 ratu sima yg asli jauh lbh cakep
> > dr
> > > > yg ada di FB ...
> > > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com > > > > 40yahoogroups. com> > 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > > > "billy_wta"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Perhatikan perkembangan berita bankruptcy Chrysler and PARTICULARLY
> > GM.
> > > > Saat declaration terjadi, Big Fund akan melakukan shorting secara
> > massive.
> > > > Sebelum itu terjadi, proses distribusi akan terjadi pelan dan halus
> > sambil
> > > > sekali-kali memetik profit dari "bearish-wedge topping process". Tactic
> > mode
> > > > beralih dr "Shun Shou Qian Yang" dan stand by pada "Chen Huo Da Jie"
> > sambil
> > > > mencermati latar. Good luck!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wew, jangan2 nanti malam di US yang udah + 2%, bisa balik jadi
> > turun
> > > > nih gara2 anteknya ratu sima, hehehehhehehe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GBU
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> >
>


   


  

Re: [ob] RE: Cari Duit Di BEI Gampang Apa Susah..??

[Andre Andre]

50% mending nangkep cumi d laut kekekeke





From: "ricky.waki...@yahoo.co.id" 
To: Milis OB 
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:46:50 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] RE: Cari Duit Di BEI Gampang Apa Susah...??





I terusin ya. Kalo setaon cuma cuan 35%, mending jualan cumi goreng mentega 
ajah ...

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From:  "CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)" 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:38:00 +0700
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] RE: Cari Duit Di BEI Gampang Apa Susah..??

Anda trading?

Kalo setahun cuma cuan 5%, mending masukin tabungan aja
Kalo setahun cuma cuan 10%, mending masukin deposito aja
Kalo setahun cuma cuan 15%, mending beli ORI/SUKRI aja
Kalo setahun cuma cuan 20%, mending beli reksadana aja
Kalo setahun cuan 25%, mending beliin BC terus tinggal tidur aja
Kalo setahun cuan 30%, mending titip modal buat jualan voucher pulsa aja
It's not worth the effort.

Q: Cumi-cumi mempunyai delapan kaki atau delapan tangan?



2009/6/2 V3 



kalo bagi saya, nyari duit di BEI relatif lbh mudah drpd kerja kantoran, mas.
 
saya trading swing, jd saya cuma ngincer saham2 yg sudah oversold, dan sdh ada 
gejala utk rebound. 
itu pun sahamnya harus yg sdh mulai masuk di top three volume/top three 
frequent. 

dan begitu kira-kira harga sdh akan mendekati oversold, saya sdh mulai pantau 
dgn teliti pergerakannya (krn saya ibu rumah tangga, jd bisa kontrol market 
kapan pun jg) utk membeli saham yg saya inginkan. 
jadi selama ini, saya sering sekali mendapatkan harga near bottom.

kalo utk jual, saya punya patokan akan mulai berniat jual setelah 2-3 hr saham 
tsb naik, atau mendekati weekend. 
jd kalo setelah 2 hr naik dan keliatan sdh ngga kuat nanjak (yg selalu saya 
konfirmasi dgn indikator2 TA dan candlestick) , saya ngga ragu utk lgsg jual.

kalau harga tetap naik setelah saya jual, saya ngga akan masuk lg. 
bagi saya, berarti rejeki saya cuma sampe situ aja. 
pokoknya saya mencoba utk terus disiplin dgn style saya yg cuma mau beli ketika 
harga sedang koreksi dan mulai memperlihatkan indikasi rebound. 

dgn style trading seperti itu, saya sdh bs konsisten dpt profit sekitar 15-25% 
per bulan, dr modal yg saya putar.

oya, saya baru setahun lebih terjun di stock market, dan sempet kena badai bei 
jg. 
portfolio saya hancur sekitar 50%. 
tp alhamdulillah, sejak ihsg 1089 sampai skrg, modal saya sdh kembali plus 
bonus2nya..

thanks buat embah dan senior2 OB yg sdh memberikan ilmu2 tradingnya selama ini.

rgds,
V3




2009/6/2 Yudizz 





100% agree Sir..
 
Itu cuma permisalan doang kok. Banyak yang invest di saham tapi nggak punya 
target yang jelas, penginnya lihat portofolio naik belasan atau puluhan persen 
dalam sekejap. Memang nggak mustahil sih, tiap hari pasti ada aja saham AR 
kanan, tapi prakteknya tidak semudah itu.
 
Padahal yang penting sih bisa konsisten profit, itu aja udah cukup. 1% per 
bulan mungkin banyak orang yang menyepelekan, terlihat mudah. Tapi dengan 1% 
persen per bulan itu bisa menghasilkan 12.68% per tahun, artinya investasi kita 
berhasil, return kita sudah bisa kalahkan bunga depostito. Kalo 10 tahun, sudah 
330%. 20 tahun sudah 1089%. 50 tahun, kita bisa jadi The Next Warren Buffet, 
bayangkan 39158%.WOW…!!! Prakteknya toh masih ada aja pemain di BEI yang justru 
malah modalnya minus.
 
Keep low profile aja, jangan GREED, pasang target yang masuk akal, biasanya 
kalo kayak gitu malah dikasih lebih sama Yang Di Atas.
 
Kalo pake asumsi Pak Tommy 3% per bulan berarti setahun total profit 42.57%. 
WOW, lumayan banget kan, kerjaan di sector riil jarang banget yang bisa kasih 
return segitu. Kalo timeframenya kita persingkat, 3% per bulan itu cuma butuh 
cuan 0.74% per minggu. Lagi-lagi kita bilang WOW..!!
 
Nah, sekarang kesimpulannya cari duit di BEI itu gampang apa susah? Apa perlu 
dibikin polling, hehehe….
 
Regards,
Yudizz
 
 
Powered by BEI Berbullish™


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] 
On Behalf Of Tommy Jayamudita
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:53 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: bili.. km ngudak2 brg ya tadi ?
 




Pandangan Pak Zudizz sangat bagus, tapi kalau asumsi 1% perbulan terlalu kecil 
kayaknya, 3% net per bulanlah, tumbuh secara stabil.
 
Memang, kalau lihat pengalaman crash 2008, banyak sekali orang yang 
mengembalikan semua keuntungan selama 2005-2007 ke pasar + rugi beberapa puluh 
% dari modal mereka, ternyata keuntungan 24 bulan masih kalah dibandingkan 
kerugian beberapa bulan saja.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From:Yudizz 
To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent:Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject:RE: [ob] Re: bili.. km ngudak2 brg ya tadi ?
 
Suka bingung kadang sama trader2, yang dicari2 saham yang bisa AR kanan, 
berharap cuan puluhan persen sehari.
Padahal kalo bisa KONSISTEN cuan 1% per bulan, dalam satu tahun duit kita sudah 
nambah 12.68%, itu sudah 2x lipat depo

Re: [ob] Percayakah BUMI ke 3000?

[Andre Andre]

Bisnis jual beli saham mreka jg cuannya gede yah kekekeke..





From: Yudizz 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:03:24 PM
Subject: RE: [ob] Percayakah BUMI ke 3000?





Sekedar saran. Kalo kita nggak tau kemana angin bertiup, lebih baik jangan
berlayar.

Fyi, bisnis BUMI itu bukan sekedar jualan batu bara.

Regards,
Yudizz

Powered by BEI BerbullishT

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of Aria Santoso
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:17 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Percayakah BUMI ke 3000?

Pak Rully apakah bisa saya asumsikan artinya Pak Oentoeng dan yang 
percaya dengan statement beliau juga aneh karena mengatakan BUMI akan 
mencapai setengah harga tertinggi?
Waktu BUMI di 8000an yg menghembuskan informasi BUMI akan ke 500 juga 
dianggap aneh ya? :)

saya pribadi tdk tau harganya akan ke mana. jadi ikut arus aja... arus 
aneh yang ke atas kalo bisa kejadian itu namanya keanehan yg menyenangkan.
arus aneh yg ke bawah sy gak mau ikutan. :P

Rully wrote:
>
>
> Kalau Anda percaya, aneh juga... Lha wong induknya aja ngga percaya 
> nilai anak perusahaannya segitu koq!
> Kalau ada yang bisa hitung, berapa proporsi BUMI di BNBR, mestinya 
> bisa lihat bahwa BUMI dari 385 ke 2000an sekarang ini mestinya 
> mengangkat BNBR dari 20 ke berapa?
> Taruhlah proporsi BUMI di BNBR itu 30%. Kalau harga BUMI naik 1.600, 
> artinya BNBR mesti naik 480 rupiah, tapi Yang Empunya BNBR rela 
> menjual BNBR di 90an!
> aneh? Anda yang percaya BUMI harganya 3.000, itulah yang aneh, karena 
> induknya aja ngga melihat harga BUMI sekian.
> Salam,
> Oetomo Rully Susanto
>  = ===
> "A lot of people die fighting tyranny. The least I can do is vote 
> against it."
> - Carl Icahn at Texaco annual meeting. Jan. 20, 1988
>  = ===
> 


   


  

Re: [ob] FastNet + Indicator BD

[Andre Andre]

I agree with u mbah senin kmaren fastnet jakarta barat mati dari jam 10 
pagi sampe jam 2 siang mbah





From: jsx_consultant 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 11:10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] FastNet + Indicator BD





Kalo buat embah Fastnet itu berfungsi sebagai indikator kegiatan
BD. Kalo market lagi kiritis seperti pagi ini maka Fastnet umumnya
problem. 

Sekarang jam 11, kurang lebih udah 15 kali fastnet mati idup. Jadi
otomatis OLT harus login lagi 15 kali.

Kejadian ini bukan hanya hari ini tapi udah lama, di complain
ke CSnya pun engga ada tanggapan atau perbaikan.

Biasanya kalo Fastnet lagi begini:
- BD lagi puyeng, misanya kena gebug index regional.
- BD lagi berusaha agar kita sudah belanja atau jual.

Note:
- Embah engga tahu apakah yg lain mengalami yg embah alami atau
tidak ?.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Budi Gunawan"  wrote:
>
> Terima kasih sdr/i. Felicia, Salma, Herry dan lainnya yg tidak dapat
> saya sebutkan satu persatu atas pengalaman dan nasehat. Sehingga saya
> sekarang lebih mantap untuk pasang FastNet dan saya tinggal di Sunter
> Agung Podomoro, Jakarta Utara.
> 
> Sekali lagi thanks atas saran teman-teman semuanya 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks & regards
> 
> 
> 
> Budi Gunawan
> 
> 
> 
>   _ 
> 
> From: Felicia Rumondor [mailto:felicia_ rumondor@ ...] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:10 AM
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [ob] FastNet
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Pak Budi,
> Sekedar sharing saja, menurut saya setelah berganti-ganti Provider untuk
> saya fastnet paling  memuaskan,masalah koneksi down sangat jarang
> mungkin hanya 1 bulan sekali dan itu tidak lebih dari 1 jam, begitu juga
> speed yang stabil(saya mencoba di www.speedtest. com)dan yang terpenting
> customer care nya sangat responsif.Untuk speed 512 kbps sudah cukup
> untuk trading kok,malah menurut saya 388kbps pun sudah cukup untuk
> membuat running trade tidak patah-patah. semoga membantu ya,bukan
> promosi loh hanya pengalaman pribadi.
> 
> --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Budi Gunawan  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Budi Gunawan 
> Subject: [ob] FastNet
> To: milis-a...@yahoogro ups.com, sa...@yahoogroups. com,
> obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, investor-club- i...@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 1:32 AM
> 
> Teman-teman,
> 
> 
> 
> Saya ingin pasang FastNet dari First Media. Apakah bisa sharing, mungkin
> ada yg punya pengalaman pahit, misalnya sering putus jika pakai 384 kbps
> dan saran 512 atau 768 kbps yg lebih umum.
> 
> Apakah 512 sudah bisa untuk On Line Trading (saya pakai eTrading) ?
> 
> Terima kasih sebelumnya atas nasehat dan sarannya 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Salam,
> 
> 
> 
> Budi Gunawan
>


   


  

Re: [ob] Re: .....U R THE BOZZ ......... !!!!!

[Andre Andre]

One of the BOZZ in the world probably is "Rothschild family"...some people say 
they own part of  certain countries central bank...bener ga mbah?

GBU all





From: jsx_consultant 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 5:50:50 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: .U R THE BOZZ .  !





--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Jacob Oen"  wrote:
>
> Sorry Mbah, klu  boleh tanya "who is the BOZZ" and what's his ultimate motive 
> behind his actions?
> 

BOZZ is an informal PROFIT MOTIVE group or organisation which 
have many member or connected to members sitting in the formal 
market organisation. So they have ACCESS to important market information. Info 
in the financial market is THE ABSOLUTE power
and when combined with HUGE MONEY, they become THE DOMINAN group
that control the market.


   


  

Re: [ob] Roubini: 'Suckers Rally' to Fade Amid Economy Woes

[Andre Andre]

ga usah ati2.si bakrie lg maen gila...amrik tewas kl bakrie lg gila mah 
tetep k atas arahnya hahahahaha





From: Saham Oke 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:31:46 PM
Subject: [ob] Roubini: 'Suckers Rally' to Fade Amid Economy Woes





Perlu ati2 nehh..

Well-known economist Nouriel Roubini, one of
the few experts to foresee the current global crisis, said Tuesday a
recent "suckers rally" in stock markets would fade as the U.S. economy
continues to wither and the financial system suffers unexpected shocks. 

Hopes
the world economy will stage a faster recovery this year have fueled a
six-week rise in global markets, with major benchmarks on Wall Street
and in Asia up more than 20 percent over just six weeks.
But
Roubini, a professor at New York University's business school and
former adviser at the U.S Treasury Department, was doubtful and
predicted markets would test the lows seen in March.
"For
people who say there are green shoots, I seen only yellow weeds
frankly," Roubini said at a conference in Hong Kong. "It's not a true
recovery. It's just a bear-market rally, it's  suckers rally."
http://www.cnbc. com/id/30319868

 


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Internet Explorer 8 yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! otomatis membuka 2 halaman 
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Re: [ob] Cawapres dari Golkar: SBY Khawatir Timbul Komplikasi Politik

[Andre Andre]

jgn2 si bakrie lagi jadi wapres?mantap dah bnbr k gopek merem bumi ke ceban 
merem wakkakakaka





From: Joe Grunk 
To: sa...@yahoogroups.com; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:33:55 PM
Subject: [ob] Cawapres dari Golkar: SBY Khawatir Timbul Komplikasi Politik





Kejadian tahun 2004 berulang, waktu itu Ketum Golkar AT, SBY pilih JK. Mungkin, 
keadaan akan sebaliknya kali ini.


Kamis, 23/04/2009 18:56 WIB 
Cawapres dari Golkar 
SBY Khawatir Timbul Komplikasi Politik 
Anwar Khumaini - detikPemilu


Jakarta - Menyusul keputusan rapimnassus mencapreskan Jusuf Kalla (JK), peluang 
kader Golkar berpasangan dengan SBY dalam Pilpres 2009 menipis. Hal yang paling 
SBY khawatirkan bila tetap menggandeng kader Golkar sebagai cawapres adalah 
munculkan komplikasi politik. 

Demikian kata Ketua DPP Partai Demokrat (PD), Hayono Isman, melalui telepon 
tentang pertanyaan yang diajukan beberapa pinisepuh Partai Golkar kepada SBY. 
Pertemuan SBY dengan para pinisepuh Golkar berlangsung tertutup di Wisma 
Negara, Jakarta, Kamis (23/4/2009) sore.

"Beliau katakan sekali, Partai Golkar adalah saudara kita, pertanyaan ibu dan 
bapak pinisepuh akan saya pertimbangkan. Pinisepuh harus paham akan ada 
komplikasi politik kalau saya memilih cawapres dari keluarga besar Golkar," 
tutur dia mengutip jawaban SBY.

Hayono mengaku tidak tahu komplikasi politik apa yang SBY maksud. Sebab jawaban 
SBY hanya sampai di situ dan tidak memberikan pemaparan lebih lanjut mengenai 
hal tersebut.

Namun mantan Ketum DPP KNPI ini menyatakan bahwa SBY sedari awal memang 
menginginkan bakal cawapres dari Partai Golkar. Namun syaratnya kandidat 
tersebut diajukan secara resmi dan telah melalui mekanisme internal yang Partai 
Golkar berlakukan.

"Beliau katakan kalau mengambil dari kader Golkar tanpa mekanisme partai, ada 
kemungkinan timbul komplikasi politik yang tidak perlu," ulang Hayono.

Beberapa pinisepuh Partai Golkar menemui SBY untuk memberikan masukan atas 
berakhirnya koalisi dengan PD. Mereka khawatir pemutusan tersebut berakibat 
pada kebuntuan politik nasional. Salah seorang pinisepuh yang hadir adalah 
Sulasikin Murpraptomo.
(   lh  /   iy  )  


 Buat sendiri desain eksklusif Messenger Pingbox Anda sekarang! 
Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah
   


  

Re: [ob] Tolong dibaca sekali lagi ajakan Elaine tgl 18 april 2009 jam 14:41

[Andre Andre]

Is there something we should be happy about?Bakrie become vp?ahahahaha 





From: Elaine Sui 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:07:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] Tolong dibaca sekali lagi ajakan Elaine tgl 18 april 2009  
jam 14:41





Is there something I should be worried about?  

Elaine


On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:49 PM, efendi elias  wrote:

Hei...Elaine tak lihat di tv hari ini  Golkar pecah kongsi dengan 
Demokrat Jusuf Kalla 
is the only President candidate from Golkar.Not Vice President candidate... .
That's mean Golkar would not joint again with Demokrat...U really didn't know 
?? 


--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Elaine Sui  wrote:

From: Elaine Sui 
Subject: Re: [ob] Tolong dibaca sekali lagi ajakan Elaine tgl 18 april 2009  
jam 14:41
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 11:40 PM



What statement??



On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:32 PM, efendi elias  wrote:

Ok..untill now,i'm still believe you.I'm just buy 105 lot at 19 april at 79.And 
i'll keep it till desember 09.I've promised to give 5 lot to OB.Don't make me 
disapoint... .i'll keep your promiseOne Question...What do u think about 
Indonesian politic condition after Golkar statement today  Thanks...

--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Elaine Sui  wrote:

From: Elaine Sui 
Subject: Re: [ob] Tolong dibaca sekali lagi ajakan Elaine tgl 18 april 2009  
jam 14:41
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 11:20 PM



Make it 7x at tomorrow's price. Remember, donate wisely. 

Elaine


On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:46 PM, efendi elias  wrote:




Baca yang jelasProgram donatur Bakrie's Rp.1.000.000. 000.
Saya membutuhkan 1000 partisipan.Tolong beli Rp.200.000(5 lot)(artinya 1lot Rp 
40.000,1 lbr Rp 40.000/500=Rp 80) saham BNBR.Simpan sampai akhir tahun ini. 
Desember 2009,harap dijual dan di sumbangkan ke OB.
Jadi kesimpulannya. ...200.000 x 1000 = 200.000.000 akan menjadi 1.000.000.000 
akhir tahun.1.000. 000.000/200. 000.000 = 5 x.Jadi hanya 5 x lipat 


Bakrie's IDR1,000,000, 000 donation program   
 

 
 Message #147543  < Prev Next >  
I NEED 1000 PARTICIPANTS. 
PLEASE BUY IDR 200,000 (5 LOT) WORTH OF  BAKRIE & BROTHERS (BNBR)
KEEP IT UNTIL END OF THIS YEAR.
DEC 2009, PLEASE SELL IT AND DONATE TO OB. 
IT ONLY COSTS YOU FRACTION OF YOUR FUND.
IF YOU REALLY LOVE EMBAH AND OB COMMUNITY,
PLEASE JOIN ME.

ONLY IDR 200,000. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR.

Please write your name here:

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Rei, Fifi, Ydizz, jkunci, JT, Tasrul, Dean, Oentoeng, edwinkdr, halim,
aimee, ruzli, rully, boyz, troyanese, tirta, billy, frendy, retha,
nabila, bettina, tbumi, kusumo_k, andref, hendra, hans, and all my
friends in OB community...

This is for Embah and OB, for his lifetime dedication to capital market.

Please tell me you're willing to join. 

It's time for us to give a 'real' christmas present to our beloved moderator.


 Thank you. 


Elaine  

 



 

 


   


  

Re: [ob] Watch BUMI resources.

[Andre Andre]

Smart Money lose





From: Vernichtung 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:36:31 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] Watch BUMI resources.





Hehehe justru disitu pointnya. Kalo semuanya gain siapa yg loss?




On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:48 AM, rad10 ru54k  wrote:




Hehehe… lucu…
Klo Elaine mau mahh…. Satu kampoeng OB mah juga mau ikut pak.
 
Beli BNBR di harga 100 perak,.. dengan nilai 500juta.
End of dec lo naek sampe 400 perak, berarti untung g, jadi 4X
lipat. 500jt bakalan jadi 2M. kuraingin 1M buat EL, g masih ada sisa 1M.
Klo end of dec, gak sampe 400, dapat 1M dari non EL, untung 1M
plus nilai saham BNBR yg dibeli….
 
Hehehe… lucu… bener2 lucu….
 
 
 

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Re: [ob] Do u ever think its a distraction?

[Andre Andre]

japan shipping company and steelmaker q1 not good





From: Thomas Frederick 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:42:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Do u ever think its a distraction?





Kalo memang bener definisi virus hanpir sama flu burung, kayaknya udah ga 
terlalu serem. 

Apalagi indikasi stress test banking mereka katanya masih cukup bagus. Yahhh 
jadinya pake flu deh. Mungkin cari2 alasan kali ya.

Yg perlu dikuatirkan knp td hsi jeblok juga. Masa hanya krn swine flu? Ada yg 
tau pastinya?
Powered by HIM the Almighty!

From:  Andre Andre 
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:35:58 -0700 (PDT)
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Do u ever think its a distraction?

yeah its all just a game...ahahahah

GBU all





From: Thomas Frederick 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:32:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Do u ever think its a distraction?


Bukan pengalihan, cuma bear warrior kehabisan alasan news bearish. 
Powered by HIM the Almighty!

From:  "andref_r" 
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:29:04 -
To: 
Subject: [ob] Do u ever think its a distraction?

The flu thing is a distraction from the recession?

GBU all



   


  

Re: [ob] Do u ever think its a distraction?

[Andre Andre]

yeah its all just a game...ahahahah

GBU all





From: Thomas Frederick 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:32:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Do u ever think its a distraction?





Bukan pengalihan, cuma bear warrior kehabisan alasan news bearish. 
Powered by HIM the Almighty!

From:  "andref_r" 
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:29:04 -
To: 
Subject: [ob] Do u ever think its a distraction?

The flu thing is a distraction from the recession?

GBU all


   


  

Re: [ob] masih ada kesempatan beli ADMF ...akan mentok hampir 8000

[Andre Andre]

yes bener skali ehehehhe

GBU all





From: HL 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:05:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] masih ada kesempatan beli ADMF ...akan mentok hampir 8000





Yg jadi harapan buat retail adalah BDMN akan beli dari market sekitar 2% total 
saham yg diterbitkan.

Seperti sudah di ketahui, saham beredar yg ada di market cuma sisa 7,47%. jadi 
kalo mau beli sekitar 2% saham yg diterbitkan dari market, berarti coba beli 
sekitar 30% lebih dari saham retail.

Bener ga yah itungannya ???


2009/4/29 Greg Hadiwinata 




Gak ada TOnya pak... belinya jg ktnya dgn exercise call option. Ada yg tau 
option strike price harga brp?


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, toto aja  wrote:
>
> wah admf-nya baru sampe 5000 udah melorot tuh :)
> 
> 

> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:01 AM, M Herman  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>



   


  

Re: Bls: [ob] Bull beneran atau masih tipu tipu nih mbah??

[Andre Andre]

Target 18xx ahahahhaha 

ngarep.net 

GBU all





From: artomoro9 
To: ob 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:07:31 PM
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Bull beneran atau masih tipu tipu nih mbah??












Dari: artomoro9 
Topik: Re: Bls: [ob] Bull beneran atau masih tipu tipu nih mbah??
Kepada: artomo...@gmail. com
Tanggal: Rabu, 29 April, 2009, 2:24 AM


close ihsg hari ini 1644.


semoga DOW ntar malem gak macem macem lagi...


semoga suasana politik kita juga tentram...




artomoro bullish mode ON


DISCLAIMER ONthe way

--- Pada Sel, 28/4/09, artomoro9  menulis:


Dari: artomoro9 
Topik: Re: Bls: [ob] Bull beneran atau masih tipu tipu nih mbah??
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Selasa, 28 April, 2009, 11:53 PM


ihsg jam 13.50  1642.



apakah level ini sudah bisa dibilang break mematahkan correction channel 123 ?

hajar kanan lagi bozz..


 bull mode ON..


DISCLAIMER ONthe way

--- Pada Sel, 28/4/09, jsx_consultant  menulis:


Dari: jsx_consultant 
Topik: Re: Bls: [ob] Bull beneran atau masih tipu tipu nih mbah??
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Selasa, 28 April, 2009, 9:07 PM


Jangan ngelawan MARKET, ikutin aja apa maunya:

- WATCH: Apakah IHSG bisa mematahkan correction channel 123 ?

http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsgzz. png

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> ane BULL deh..
> 
> yang laen terserah...
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Re: [ob] Rekomendasi SAHAM2 Murah....

[Andre Andre]

yg short sell tgl 1 mei = budir(bunuh diri) ahuhuahuahuhuahua

GBU all





From: "indeksbei3...@gmail.com" 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:31:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Rekomendasi SAHAM2 Murah

Tgl 1 Mei 09 sdh bisa short sell ??
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Hehehe sudah diralat s.d. Jum at tgl 1 Mei..Thanks

Rgrds


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Re: [ob] RE:BUMI Siap Menuju Level Tinggi Baru

[Andre Andre]

brp harga BUMI kalo PER nya 10x?anyone can help?
thanx

GBU all





From: d_rm 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:52:25 AM
Subject: [ob] RE:BUMI Siap Menuju Level Tinggi Baru





PER-nya sich masih 4,7


--- On Wed, 4/29/09, JsxTrader  wrote:


From: JsxTrader 
Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI Siap Menuju Level Tinggi Baru
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 11:59 PM


Kurang lebih segitu…, cenggo ada yg siap jualan tuh…, biasanya
akan di tes BD.., kabur ngga mereka kalau disamperin.. , kalau kabur justru
harga ditarik lagi kebawah.
 
JT
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On
Behalf Of Tommy Yu
Sent: 30 April 2009 10:48
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI Siap Menuju Level Tinggi Baru
 


Prof JT,

Bumi 2 hari ini udah kenceng naiknya, mau aman-in barang dulu di level berapa
ya ? 
kalo coret-coretan ane, kena FIBO di level 1460-1470 an... (bener ngak ya ? )

Kalo jebol lagi keatas, siap reload.

trims
TY
2009/4/30 hst auto 
 
BUMI BUY dan tutup screen aja
deh gak usah di tengok2. nanti liatnya taon depan aje.
buat trading hari ini bisa aja stock ini > 1470
terserah BD deh.. tapi kalo bullish gini mending enjoy the ride ajah
2009/4/30 JsxTrader 
 
 
Yah..,
gini hari baru bilang BUMI rebond…, orang udah uptrend and lagi lucu-lucunya…
hehe
 
JT
 
 




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Re: [ob] RE:BUMI Siap Menuju Level Tinggi Baru

[Andre Andre]

thanx alot





From: Kabu Nusi 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:04:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] RE:BUMI Siap Menuju Level Tinggi Baru





EPS 2008: $33.45/1000 shares
USD=10700IDR, 3500

--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Andre Andre  wrote:


From: Andre Andre 
Subject: Re: [ob] RE:BUMI Siap Menuju Level Tinggi Baru
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 5:52 AM





brp harga BUMI kalo PER nya 10x?anyone can help?
thanx

GBU all





From: d_rm 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:52:25 AM
Subject: [ob] RE:BUMI Siap Menuju Level Tinggi Baru


PER-nya sich masih 4,7


--- On Wed, 4/29/09, JsxTrader  wrote:


From: JsxTrader 
Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI Siap Menuju Level Tinggi Baru
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 11:59 PM


Kurang lebih segitu…, cenggo ada yg siap jualan tuh…, biasanya
akan di tes BD.., kabur ngga mereka kalau disamperin.. , kalau kabur justru
harga ditarik lagi kebawah.
 
JT
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On
Behalf Of Tommy Yu
Sent: 30 April 2009 10:48
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI Siap Menuju Level Tinggi Baru
 


Prof JT,

Bumi 2 hari ini udah kenceng naiknya, mau aman-in barang dulu di level berapa
ya ? 
kalo coret-coretan ane, kena FIBO di level 1460-1470 an (bener ngak ya ? )

Kalo jebol lagi keatas, siap reload.

trims
TY
2009/4/30 hst auto 
 
BUMI BUY dan tutup screen aja
deh gak usah di tengok2. nanti liatnya taon depan aje.
buat trading hari ini bisa aja stock ini > 1470
terserah BD deh.. tapi kalo bullish gini mending enjoy the ride ajah
2009/4/30 JsxTrader 
 
 
Yah..,
gini hari baru bilang BUMI rebond…, orang udah uptrend and lagi lucu-lucunya…
hehe
 
JT
 
 




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Re: [ob] hold your good stock..!

[Andre Andre]

YES,SIR! 





From: Kevin Hogan 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:18:23 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] hold your good stock..!





Siap komandan. Ane kekepin deh saham2 ane. Tutup layar monitor deh. Biar BD 
maen sendiri.


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Re: [ob]BUMI: Laba usaha naik 173 %, Laba bersih naik 103.3%

[Andre Andre]

http://image.minyanville.com/assets/FCK_Aug2007/File/Theal/0409/Update%20on%20PCX%205-1(2).gif
 ,  merem aja d BUMI itu PCX d amrik aja q1 nya super bagus karena masih 
untung padahal analiser2 memperkirakan rugicome on FA cant lie and i still 
believe BUMI is goodmaybe for a short term it will be hardcore upside down 
move but in the long run FA is in control not TA or some stupid analyser




From: "indeksbei3...@gmail.com" 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 11:21:52 AM
Subject: Re: [ob]BUMI: Laba usaha naik 173 %, Laba bersih naik 103.3%





http://bright- info.blogspot. com/2009/ 05/pt-bumi- resources- tbk-outturn- 
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From:  "re...@trade" 
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 04:03:06 +
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob]BUMI: Laba usaha naik 173 %, Laba bersih naik 103.3%

Bisa dishare Pak hasil laporan keuangan?

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From:  nicholas alvin 
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:52:25 -0700 (PDT)
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob]BUMI: Laba usaha naik 173 %, Laba bersih naik 103.3%

Tadi saya baca di Inilah.com & IQ plus, tapi IQplus sudah menjelaskan
kalau berita yg pertama salah, sudah dikoreksi seharusnya profitnya
naik, bukan turun. Jadi yg baca di Inilah.com harus cermat.

--- On Fri, 5/1/09, efendi elias  wrote:


From: efendi elias 
Subject: RE: [ob]BUMI: Laba usaha naik 173 %, Laba bersih naik 103.3%
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 9:42 AM


Pak ...Yg ada di INILAH .com itu LK thn 2008 jan-des. Mungkin yg pak ALVIN 
maksud adalah LK BUMI Q1 2009 yg baru dirilis tadi sore...

--- On Fri, 5/1/09, Sulaiman, Goby  wrote:

From: Sulaiman, Goby 
Subject: RE: [ob]BUMI: Laba usaha naik 173 %, Laba bersih naik 103.3%
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:59 PM


 
Pak Alvin kalo boleh dishare sourcenya dari mana???.. Kok beda 180 derajat sama 
berita Inilah.com?? ?.. Thanks..
 
 
Best regards,
 
 
GOBY
 
 


 
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Re: [ob] DJUSCL +10.50% KOL +7.34% (keren :p)

[Andre Andre]

maybe BUMI senin ikutan double top breakout di 1570 ahahhaha

GBU all





From: Aria Bela Nusa 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 11:28:32 AM
Subject: RE: [ob] DJUSCL +10.50% KOL +7.34% (keren :p)





Check these out :
 
http://stockcharts. com/charts/ gallery.html? %5Edjuscl
 
http://stockcharts. com/charts/ gallery.html? %5Ewtic
 
http://stockcharts. com/gallery? $DJUSMG
 
 


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On Behalf Of Asep Buhori
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 8:19
AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Bls: [ob] DJUSCL +10.50%
KOL +7.34% (keren :p)
 




 Smg BD mau nge-break 1570 nya trus sampe fraksi 25 perakan


 
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Girls 
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Jumat, 1 Mei, 2009
14:48:22
Topik: [ob] DJUSCL +10.50% KOL
+7.34% (keren :p)
http://finance. yahoo.com/
q?s=^djuscl
 
http://finance.
yahoo.com/ q?s=kol&=
 
ACI +11.60%
JRCC +29.42%
ICO +28.64%
YZC 3.55%
 
Ada apa ya ??
 


 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [forumsarijaya] 80 hari kerja, hitung mundur nasib dana kita sebelum SP tutup

[Andre Andre]

emang sudah seharusnya direksi2 BEI diganti!!





From: XXX 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:41:32 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [forumsarijaya] 80 hari kerja, hitung mundur  
nasib dana kita sebelum SP tutup


Ya begitulah nasib investor retail di Indonesia. Oleh karena itu, ada baiknya 
kita investor retail lokal jg perlu mempertimbangkan untuk pindah bermain di 
bursa luar negeri. Minimal di luar negeri hak-2 investor retail masih dihargai 
& dilindungi. Toh, di luar negeri masih banyak saham yang JAUH LEBIH bagus dari 
pada saham-saham di Indonesia, dan marketnya juga jauh lebih likuid. 
Kita juga tidak ada gunanya marah-2, itu buang-buang tenaga saja.
Yang punya duit khan kita ? Kalau pemerintah tidak bisa memberikan pelayanan yg 
baik, ya kita sebagai investor tidak usah mengemis-2 lah,..langsung aja kita 
hengkang


2009/3/13 Mayor_trend 

Kecewa dan prihatin dengan pasar modal kita,udah pake teriak juga dengarnya 
pake leher. Saya kira banyak yang gak pernah kepikiran resiko kyk ini bisa 
ada,bahkan pemain kawakan sekalipun. Keledai2 itu gak bisa diharapkan lagi,dari 
kasusnya DSFI,TMPI,sampai kasus sp ini gak pernah bisa tuntas dan selalu 
berulang. Sistem investor area baru dipikirin setelah kasus sp,kapannya sih 
otak gak telmi BEI juga gak buka tahun kemarin sore. Giliran kebakaran baru 
sibuk sana sini. Saya liat udah banyak yang udah melirik saham/option NYSE dari 
IB,TOS,dll. Sementara taruh dulu saham di broker plat merah dengan mkbd 
besar,nasabah pantas bersikap parno dengan cash ditarik disetor lebih sering. 
maklumlah kalo bisnis  dengan mafia


On 3/13/09, Dow Jones  wrote:

Nah lho... Nah lhoo... Alamat dana kita tidak akan balik lagi. Nah lho... Nah 
lho...

Setiabudi Cung wrote: 
> P. Surya dari hasil demo hari ini , kita berdialog dengan 
> P.Guntur ( BEI ) , Bu Justisia ( BEI ) , P. Trisnadi ( KSEI ) dan P. Hoesen ( 
> KPEI ) . dari dialog masalah asset SP menurut mereka hanya tersisa sekitar 6 
> M selebihnya 
>  - Beberapa rekening SP yg dibekukan , mereka tidak tahu samasekali 
> berapa jumlahnya , kalau mau tau tanyakan sendiri ke BARESKRIM  , Nah lhoo 
>  - Masalah REPO SP ke BAKRIE , dijawab siapa yg me-repo-kan BAKRIE atau 
> SP , salah satu dari mereka malah memberi pernyataan " Saya pernah mendengar 
> berita itu nanti kita telusuri " , Kesimpulannya  mereka hanya sekedar 
> mendengar saja tidak pernah ditindak lanjuti , Nah lhooo 
>  - Masalah SP jual kepemilikan sahamnya di PKPK pun , mereka baru 
> mendengar dari kita - kita ini tadi siang , apalagi berita terbaru penjualan 
> kepemilikan saham SP di JKSW , Nah lh lagi dah 
>
>  Jadi pencarian asset2 SP yg katanya sedang mereka telusuri selama ini 
> hasilnya apa ? 
>
>  Pada 12 Maret 2009 23:10, Andika Suryawan < asurya...@yahoo. com > menulis: 
>  Saya ada usulan lain yaitu Meminta menagement sarijaya untuk mengalihkan 
> penagihan Piutang nya seperti repo unsp yg katanya mencapai 80m ke bakrie 
> Untuk pelunasan dana nasabah melalui perjanjian mirip cessie 
>  Sepertinya cara ini lebih masuk akal dan cukup cepat melihat kondisi Saat 
> ini. Saya akan coba tanya teknisnya dengan lawyer Apa ada nantinya dari 
> teman2 yg bisa meminta mgmt sarijaya Agar mau ttd perjanjian ini agar kita 
> nasabah bisa menagih 
> Piutang ini dan membagi kepada nasabah yg dananya nyangkut Salam 
>  rikitoriqul wrote: > Jika SP mulai disuspen mulai 6 Januari, maka sesuai 
> aturan kalo 6 bulan setelahnya SP tidak melakukan kegiatan maka izinnya akan 
> dicabut (ditutup). Masa 6 bulan sesudah disuspen akan jatuh pd tgl 6 Juli. 
> Bila dihitung mundur maka sisa waktu kita memperjuangkan dana milik kita 
> tinggal 80 hari kerja lagi. 
>> Untuk penanganan sisa dana ini ada beberapa usul dr kawan2 kita, yg sudah 
>> terlaksana & masih dalam pendalaman, diantaranya: > 1. Demo, sudah & msh 
>> berjalan, hr ini malah ada demo ke BEI yg dipimpin Bp. Teguh (Koordinator 
>> FNSP Bogor) 
>> 2. Sewa Pengacara, sesuai usul Bp. Andika Suryawan. > 3. Lobi ke 
>> Bapepam/BEI, terutama oleh Wan Al > 4. Lainnya (boleh ditambahkan barangkali 
>> ada yg kurang) > Disamping itu malah ada yg usul pake preman. 
>> Demikian rangkuman usaha2 yg telah dilakukan oleh kawan2 terutama yg 
>> berdomisili di Jadebotabek. > Kita yg diluar Jadebotabek tentu harus tetap 
>> mendukung dan medoakan apapun usaha yg dilakukan, karena kita yakin semuanya 
>> bermaksud baik. 
>> Salam > 
> 




   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI LAGI (ML Konsisten dgn tp Rp 550)

[Andre Andre]

ayolah om bd bumi buktikan dnk makanin kanan...jgn diem mulu ...malu ama yg d 
amrik tuh peabody dah naek mulu euy...





From: ARRAY27 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:57:31 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI LAGI (ML Konsisten dgn tp Rp 550)


ML apa sudah upgade BUMI? Kemarin  2009-02-12 yang di ML beli BUMI >40 rb lot, 
Avg 784,13.  ML jadi top buyer hari itu. Sekarang berani beli 800. Apa nggak 
ngenyek analis di ML? Atau mulai ngepul buat diguyur ke 5xx lagi??? Itu yang 
menunggu di 570 sudah mulai bulukan, sudah tidak kelihatan lagi. Kalau tidak 
mau diguyur lagi, berangkat saja dulu. Jongkok lama2 apa tidak kesemutan???


2009/2/19 simon bolenang 

Mama L pegang prinsip Tp Rp 550,- makanya jualan 40.000 lot tadi

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, JT  wrote:

From: JT 
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI LAGI
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 4:05 AM


Pasti adalaaahh.., tenang aja, masalahnya anda lari gak kalau dikasih
atret hehehe

Mainan Mbah mang antep dah, Thanks ya Mbah.. 

JT

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From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of "::Pak_AA:":
Sent: 19 Februari 2009 15:53
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI LAGI

Ada hatret dolo gak?
Dah, maw pasang ember lg

2009/2/19 JT :
> Cakep Pak...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
> On Behalf Of "::Pak_AA:":
> Sent: 19 Februari 2009 15:14
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI LAGI
>
> Pak JT, Mbah please advice about BUMI
>

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] USD/Rp di Bloomberg---> Teror atau beneran?

[Andre Andre]

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converter#from=USD;to=IDR;amt=1




From: Halim Perdana 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 1:43:15 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] USD/Rp di Bloomberg---> Teror atau beneran?


Udah Rp 11,820 per USD?

http://www.bloomber g.com/markets/ currencies/ asiapac_currenci es.html




  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] DOW

[Andre Andre]

Five wave pattern

Wave one is rarely obvious at its inception. When the first wave of a
new bull market begins, the fundamental news is almost universally
negative. The previous trend is considered still strongly in force.
Fundamental analysts continue to revise their earnings estimates lower; the 
economy probably does not look strong. Sentiment
surveys are decidedly bearish, put options are in vogue, and implied
volatility in the options market is high. Volume might increase a bit
as prices rise, but not by enough to alert many technical analysts.

Wave two corrects wave one, but can never extend beyond the starting
point of wave one. Typically, the news is still bad. As prices retest
the prior low, bearish sentiment quickly builds, and "the crowd"
haughtily reminds all that the bear market is still deeply ensconced.
Still, some positive signs appear for those who are looking: volume
should be lower during wave two than during wave one

Wave three is usually the largest and most powerful wave in a trend
(although some research suggests that in commodity markets, wave five
is the largest). The news is now positive and fundamental analysts
start to raise earnings estimates. Prices rise quickly, corrections are
short-lived and shallow.Anyone looking to "get in on a pullback" will likely 
miss the boat. As
wave three starts, the news is probably still bearish, and most market
players remain negative; but by wave three's midpoint, "the crowd" will
often join the new bullish trend.

Wave four is typically clearly corrective. Prices may meander sideways
for an extended period, and wave four typically retraces less than
38.2% of wave three. Volume is well below than that of wave three. This
is a good place to buy a pull back if you understand the potential
ahead for wave 5. Still, the most distinguishing feature of fourth
waves is that they often prove very difficult to count.

Wave five is the final leg in the direction of the dominant trend. The
news is almost universally positive and everyone is bullish.
Unfortunately, this is when many average investors finally buy in,
right before the top. Volume is lower in wave five than in wave three,
and many momentum indicators start to show divergences (prices reach a
new high, the indicator does not reach a new peak). At the end of a
major bull market, bears may very well be ridiculed (recall how
forecasts for a top in the stock market during 2000 were received).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_wave


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] antm upgraded by Morgan stanley to Rp2.000

[Andre Andre]

Morgan Stanley ANTM Gold Mine Acquisition Sends Positive Signal
Golden Opportunity for Cash
Up B/S

*Gold Mine Acquisition Sends Positive Signal:
*We reiterate our OW recommendation following Antam’s announcement
today that it is buying an Indonesian gold project. We see this as
attractive for two reasons:
1) Antam is putting its cashed-up balance sheet to work,and 
2) the acquisition looks attractively-priced with an average cost (M&A + 
development cost) of just $120/oz,significantly lower than average
EV/oz of most gold companies. On annualized basis, we estimate that the
Cibaliuang gold mine could add Rp20-30/sh or 15-20% to our EPS from
2011e onwards. We may adjust earnings after year-end results are
released at the end of this month.

*Acquisition Details: *The Cibaliuang gold project is
acquired from Arc Exploration (ARX) and ANZ Bank for just US$8m. ARX
was the original owner, which ran into difficulties due to cost
over-runs and financing difficulties, but listed on the ASX it used to
have a market cap of A$30mn in 1H08. The mine requires an additional
US$40mn to develop and is estimated to have reserves of 412,000 oz of
pure gold with annual production of 70,700 oz. The mine should be
commissioned by 2011 and we estimate that it should have similar
margins to Antam’s existing gold mine. The transaction is expected to
close in 4-6 months.

While we have not adjusted our numbers, we
believe this gold acquisition is a step in the right direction and that
Antam will continue to its M&A strategy and move toward our Bull Case PT of 
Rp2,000.






From: thom chris 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:42:00 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] antm upgraded by Morgan stanley to Rp2.000


boleh share reportnya pak?
thx

--- On Wed, 2/11/09, andref_r  wrote:

From: andref_r 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] antm upgraded by Morgan stanley to Rp2.000
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 2:23 AM



 

   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] antm upgraded by Morgan stanley to Rp2.000

[Andre Andre]

** Indonesian state miner PT Aneka Tambang Tbk (Antam)
(ANTM.JK: Quote, Profile, Research) said it is considering buying up to 18.72 
percent of
PT Freeport Indonesia, the local unit of U.S. mining giant
Freeport McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc (FCX.N: Quote, Profile, Research). 
[nJAK298375]

© Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved



Link http://in.reuters..com/article/asiaCompanyAndMarkets/idINSP26142020080215



  

Re: [ob] Mbah, sebenernya apa si yang mentrigger kenaikan hari ini?

[Andre Andre]

U r good El
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^DJUSRE#chart2:symbol=^djusre;range=5d;compare=^djuscl+^djusmg+^dji+^gspc;indicator=volume+stochasticslow;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined
 Properties beat other sectors



From: Elaine Sui 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:05:15 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Mbah, sebenernya apa si yang mentrigger kenaikan hari ini?

  
What? No. I 'left' IDX but not OB.  

I just want to see whether in this 3Q the rally is sustainable or not, that's 
all. I see many crazy (greedy) buyers today so I decide to liquidate what was 
left on my portfolios. Yes, I know you must think that I did a bad move, I mean 
selling in the middle of a strong rally? what the hell? lolz..

But I believe in my sources and my own analysis. Just like you, JT. Believe 
only in ourself. After all, my targets are already met, I'm happy, my investors 
are happy, you, art and OB are happy.

Elaine


2009/7/30 JT 


>
>
>Emang si EL mau kemana Boss...? are you leaving again EL?
>
> 
>JT
> 
>-Original Message-
>>From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>>com] On
>Behalf Of Dean Earwicker
>>Sent: 30 Juli 2009 19:38
>>To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>
>>Subject: Re: [ob] Mbah, sebenernya apa si yang mentrigger kenaikan hari ini?
> 
>BG naik kencang karena laporan kinerja reksadana semester
>1, sekalian
>window dressing lapkeu mungkin buat modal ngutang lagi
>mengkale, juga
>karena break console pake vol, juga senada dgn kutukan 31
>julinya
>mbah, sekalian jendral arto show of force, kebangkitan
>billy di media
>dan pesta
>perpisahan EL.
> 
>OB GITU LOH ;) kalo engga coan juga mah kebangeten.
>Hehe...
> 
>On 7/30/09, charles_3983 
>wrote:
>> abis semalem kan DOW merah.. oil drop..
>> ko bisa2nya BUMI dkk ngamuk2 hari ini?
>> 
>> apa karena mereka masih laggard?
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Re: [ob] BUMI - Trading Volume

[Andre Andre]

Pak Jt...itu softwarenya bisa gendut kurus candlenya pake apa ya kl boleh 
tau?thanx before




From: JT 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:36:32 PM
Subject: [ob] BUMI - Trading Volume

  
Iseng-iseng ane bikin itung-itungan bodo nih..., pada  chart
1 menit terlihat sbb;
 
-Sejak Opening hingga 9.59 wib, harga ditarik ke level 2875..,
ane asumsi BD disini markup dgn cara melakukan aggressive buy, kalau ditotal, 
volume-nya 
1,1 juta lot
 
-Sejak  jam 10.00 wib hingga closing, harga flat
bermain di sekitar 2700-2750.., asumsi ane disini BD bagi barang, total general
tercatat 1,77 Juta lot
 
Jadi lebih gede volume pada saat sideways dari jam 10.00 s/d
closing dibandingkan periode  open to 9.59 wib
 
Memang too much Noise di dalemnya, bisa sih kalo mau
dihilangkan noisenya sehingga dapet angka yg lebih valid, tapi ribet lah,
namanya juga Cuma iseng, tapi dari sini aje dah bisa diliat om BD tadi 
ngapain……,
distribusi atau ngusirin penumpang gelap ya ?  hehe…, any idea? 
 
Btw, ada yg bisa bantuin ngitung cuannya si Om hari ini
kira2 berapa ya ?…., hehehe…, iseng amat…
 
JT
 
 
   


  

Re: [ob] BUMI - Trading Volume

[Andre Andre]

Ow ok2...thanx pak ..iyah saya krg ngerti software gt2an hahaha




From: JT 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:50:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI - Trading Volume

  
Yeee..., gak gaul nih, metastock boss..., hehehe


Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone

From:  Andre Andre 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:40:32 -0700 (PDT)
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI - Trading Volume

Pak Jt...itu softwarenya bisa gendut kurus candlenya pake apa ya kl boleh 
tau?thanx before




From: JT 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:36:32 PM
Subject: [ob] BUMI - Trading Volume

  
Iseng-iseng ane bikin itung-itungan bodo nih..., pada  chart 1 menit terlihat 
sbb;
 
-Sejak Opening hingga 9.59 wib, harga ditarik ke level 2875.., ane asumsi BD 
disini markup dgn cara melakukan aggressive buy, kalau ditotal, volume-nya  1,1 
juta lot
 
-Sejak  jam 10.00 wib hingga closing, harga flat bermain di sekitar 
2700-2750.., asumsi ane disini BD bagi barang, total general tercatat 1,77 Juta 
lot
 
Jadi lebih gede volume pada saat sideways dari jam 10.00 s/d closing 
dibandingkan periode  open to 9.59 wib
 
Memang too much Noise di dalemnya, bisa sih kalo mau dihilangkan noisenya 
sehingga dapet angka yg lebih valid, tapi ribet lah, namanya juga Cuma iseng, 
tapi dari sini aje dah bisa diliat om BD tadi ngapain……, distribusi atau 
ngusirin penumpang gelap ya ?  hehe…, any idea? 
 
Btw, ada yg bisa bantuin ngitung cuannya si Om hari ini kira2 berapa ya ?…., 
hehehe…, iseng amat…
 
JT
 
 

   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] "WRATH IN THE VELVET GLOVE"

[Andre Andre]

as if u knows everythingHAHAHAonly God knows...not even buffet can 
predict 





From: fifi young 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] "WRATH IN THE VELVET GLOVE"


Wahduh... terjemahannya bisa amburadul nih...


On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Ratu Sima  wrote:


A little reminder.
Hanya mengingatkan saja...
 

After testing 7800, DJI will do over 7500 and 7000.
Setelah testing 7800, DOW akan mencoba ke 7500 - 7000
 

This is subject to a few distinct factors:
Ini didasari oleh beberapa fakta yang nyata.
 

1. Failure of 1 & 2 Q 2009 Financial Report.
laporan keuangan Q 1 & 2 2009 yang gagal...
 

2. Mounting number of redundancy & production cut, being led by major
corporates, mainly manufacturing & electronics.
Jumlah PHK & pengurangan produksi yang bertambah, dipelopori ? (kearah yang 
negatif) oleh korporasi/perusahaa n besar, mayoritasnya manufaktur & elektronic.
 

3.  Bail out can't help people re-living consumption, but it merely
circumvent on the toxic bank assets question.
Bail out tidak dapat membantu membangkitkan konsumsi kehidupan, akan tetapi 
hanya menhindarkan pertanyaan/keraguan dari assets bank yang hancur/busuk.
 

4. The FED's low interest rate can't help no more the pressure of
reversal economic cycle bumping from deflation into inflation under too
long stagnate period. Yet, they can't rely on the treasury & bond.

 

bunga rendah The Fed tidak bisa membantu ekonomi berbalik arah dari deflasi ke 
inflasi setelah stagnasi terlalu lama. Dan, mereka juga tidak dapat 
mengandalkan treasury & bond.
 

5. Conclusively, the market is still A BIG BEARISH ahead. (Believe it or
not) It's like 'Wrath in the Velvet Glove'.
Konklusinya adalah, market masih A BIG BEARISH kedepannya.. . (percaya atau 
tidak). Itu seperti menyimpan AMARAH YANG LUAR BIASA didalam sarung 
tangan/kotak kecil yang terbuat dari Velvet.
 
Wahduh...! emangnya sarung tangan ato kotak kecil dari Velvet bisa nyimpen 
EXTREME ANGER (kemarahan yang luar biasa)...?
 
Jadi, artinya apa donk...?
 
Elaine please HELP...! 
 

RATUSIMA,

UNITED KINGDOM OF KALINGGA JAVA



   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Regional memerah..

[Andre Andre]

penyebabnya karena Bank of East Asia d Hong kong runtuh





From: cipto_jh 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:58:18 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Regional memerah..


Dipelopori bursa Hongkong, Korea, ama Taiwan. Penyebab umumnya karena 
kekuatiran atas kondisi perekonomian, plus aksi2 downgrade oleh 
institusi asing.

Dollar Taiwan jatuh 5,5 tahun low, sehari sebelum pemerintah-nya 
ngeluarin angka GDP, yg dikuatirkan buruk.

Indonesia juga, udah kontraksi di kuartal IV '08 thd kuartal III-nya, 
so melihat perkembangan ke depannya, dikuatirkan sikon-nya juga masih 
akan kurang bagus di kuartal I '09 ini.

Demikian sekilas info... :p

Salam 


   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

[Andre Andre]

  in the short term yes growth stock will beat the market, but in the long run 
value stocks will beat growth stocks






W
On 17/02/2009, RATU SIMA  wrote:
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
>
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
>
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
>
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
>
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
>
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT SOUND
> YET.
>
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>

   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MALAM INI PENENTUAN!

[Andre Andre]

dont talk about politics here please, u can get a problem if someone see your 
writing, just an advice no hard feeling peace





From: Baso TAHU 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:00:11 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MALAM INI PENENTUAN!


Malam ini penentuan utk index DOW JONES! Apa 7400 tembus? Kalo mau lihat malam 
nanti coba jam 3 pagi WIB. 1 Jam sebelum tutup, soalnya mirip BEI yg paling 
penting sejam sebelum tutup.

Tapi menurut saya lihat dari TA, apalagi S&P500 dan NASDAQ masih ada tenaga 
untuk turun. Saham komponen DOW yg juga anggota NASDAQ macam MSFT, INTC lapkeu 
jelek, outlook jelek, valuasi pas2an cuma sama buruknya dgn taun 2001-2002 
padahal ini dekat2 depresi. Saya yakin jebol support 7400. Selama aset buruk 
banking nggak dihapus, nggak akan ada kepastian, mau dijual ke swasta siapa yg 
mau beli diharga bagus? Dan gilanya kalo aset buruk nggak dipisah mirip BPPN 
jaman kita dulu, aset bagus bank bakal ikut jelek. Itu masalahnya ngak ada 
keberanian berkorban macam rakyat Indonesia (bukan berkorban sih, bego aja kita 
ditipuin). 

Untuk Indonesia, saham2 CPO baiknya BUY ON WEAKNESS, ada aksi akumulasi di CPO 
futures MALAYSIA. Malah kalo terus2an kuat diharga sekarang, saham2 CPO akan 
rebound (kecuali UNSP) ke level tertinggi di taun 2007 (bukan 2008 ya!). Coba 
berapa AALI di 2007? Kuat sekali ini CPO? Padahal Corn saja belum pulih2 amat.

Bottom BEI? wuih sesudah q1 keluar! Pemenang PEMILU 2009, SBY, ke-2, Prabowo ; 
) said who? I got a feeling, soalnya Prabowo belanja iklan edan2an, BIGGEST 
LOSER, Sultan.




 

   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BASML INDO Strategy: positive on Indonesia + top picks (18 Feb 09)

[Andre Andre]

wow finally someone in Merrill Lynch is thinking positive..hehe...good job for 
being positive to our own nation.





From: Joe Grunk 
To: sa...@yahoogroups.com; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:47:38 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BASML INDO Strategy: positive on Indonesia + top 
picks (18 Feb 09)




Arief turns positive on Indonesia
just as the DOW fell last night.  But... calm down and read his arguments
on the reports, I think you will agree Indonesia economic fundamentals
actually set to improve in the coming months.   His top 5 picks are in
order of preference:  BMRI, BDMN, ASII, INTP, and BBRI.
 
Think positive! 
Shouldn't
we get in now This is Indonesia. 
Arief in his new strategy piece has turned positive.  He sees limited
downside risk to IDR, more resilient than expected domestic demand, healthy
banking system, and upside surprise from election in April. All these while 
valuations are
undemanding,
hence he suggests to get in ahead of the data point especially on sectors that
benefit from easing policy.  Downside risk to IDR should be limited given
current & capital account improvement.  The administration has
arranged for bigger standby International loan facilities (to meet U$ demand
for loan repayment) and implement partial control on FX buying for speculation
by residents and financial players.  Stable currency offers flexible
monetary and fiscal policies. Gov’t additional fiscal stimulus package,
representing 1.4% of GDP, should facilitate a 4% GDP growth target in 2009 and
5.1% in 2010.  Throw in aggressive rate cuts to the environment and we
could see a strong domestic consumption (~ 65%  of GDP) more than offsets
external trade contraction. Election from April onwards could also offer upside
surprise; Historically, a favorable outcome considerably boosts consumer and
business confidences! His top 5 picks are
in order of BMRI, BDMN, ASII, INTP, and BBRI.
<> 


Bank Mandiri 
Bank
Mandiri (BMRI IJ) is now Arief’s top pick out of Indonesia.  He raised PO
17% to Rp 2,800 and lifts 2009-10 forecast bottom line by 12-29%.  BMRI
has successfully revolutionized its operation, strengthened risk management,
and cleaned up loan portfolio over the last 4 years and these structural
changes are set to deliver sustainable improvement in earnings and RoE. 
As Indonesia implements easing monetary and expansionary fiscal policies, Arief
see 2009-10 earnings benefits from higher NIM, better than anticipated loan
growth, and resilient economic growth hence lower loan loss provisions. Stock 
trades on 6.3x EPS and 1.1x
P/BV '09.  Arief thinks the bank worth 1.7x BV when market realize fears
about relaps restructured loan in BMRI is out of place.  http://research1. 
ml.com/C/ ?q= V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgr EYA%3D%3D& r=eryado

BDMN: raised PxT to Rp 4,250 
Our 2nd
favorite name in Indonesia
as BDMN is well positioned to benefit from declining interest rate thanks to
its hefty time deposits (73% of total) and high LDR (87%).  Arief raised
PxT by 16% to Rp4,250to reflect: (1) a 26% increase in our 2009 earnings (we 
keep 2010
unchanged) and (2) a 1ppt reduction in WACC to 17% as we expect macroeconomic
headwinds to decrease.  On concern over its remaining F/X forward
contract, we believe BDMN has made enough provisions (US$73mn) for the balance.
The net notional amount of its F/X contract has declined 84% to US$230mn.
Separately, Bloomberg reported BDMN plans to raise ~Rp4tn in rights issue,
priced at ~45% discount. We view the pricing as attractive if done based on /
below current share price given the stock is now trading at depressed 5.3x '09
P/E and 0.9x '09 P/BV, or 50% disc to our fair P/BV of 1.8x. http://research1. 
ml.com/C/ ?q= D1XJDxmNBpHltljEpgr EYA%3D%3D& r=eryado

FX forecasts 
Our global FX team's latest
view. For Indonesia, the
team believes Rupiah is poised to appreciate in coming months, in light of: i) 
relatively
resilient macro-fundamentals and greater political certainty post-parliamentary
and presidential elections, ii) growth outperformance relative to the rest of
Asia and scope for further expansionary fiscal and monetary policies,
iii)  Recent comments from the Indonesian authorities suggesting they are 
uncomfortable
with sustained Rp weakness and reaffirmed their commitment to
‘guarding’ the Rp. EM currencies quarterly forecasts is on pg 13;
We expect Rp to hit Rp10,000/US$ at Dec '09, and Rp9,700/US$ at Dec '10. 
Elsewhere, we are moderately positive on the dollar. The longer and more
sustained the downturn in the US,
the more powerful the re-balancing which simultaneously shrinks the US
current account gap and supports demand for USD. That said, until the US
current account imbalance is closed, the USD is vulnerable to outbreaks of
risk-seeking behavior brought on by greater optimism over the economic
outlook.   http://research1. ml.com/C/ ?q= TSG8K56RyvzltljEpgr EYA%3D%3D& 
r=prodap
US Markets 
DJIA -3.7%, Vol 1.6B; CC

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Even Buffett Isn't Perfect

[Andre Andre]

the book is very2 good and did become best seller





From: "danny.eug...@yahoo.co.uk" 
To: Obrolan Bandar 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:35:58 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Even Buffett Isn't Perfect

Saat ini saya sedang membaca buku Even Buffett Isn't Perfect by Vahan Janjigian.

Buku ini cukup bagus terutama mengingatkan seorang Buffett pun bisa salah dalam 
berinvestasi. Melalui buku ini kita belajar dari kesalahan Buffett.

Selain itu ada beberapa strategy Buffett yang sukses untuk dirinya tetapi tidak 
cocok diterapkan pada kita.

Contohnya Buffett sanggup 'nyangkut' di satu saham hingga puluhan tahun. Bagi 
investor/trader yang memiliki time horizon lebih pendek tentu model Buffett ini 
tidak cocok. Buffett can afford to make mistakes which most of us cannot.

Sangat menarik ada buku yang membahas the other side of Buffett. Bagi saya yang 
memang lebih cenderung ke arah investasi jangka panjang, buku ini memberikan 
warna dalam pengambilan keputusan.

Btw, buku ini sudah ada versi terjemahannya di beberapa lokasi Gramed (meski 
saya tadi sore cek yang di Gunung Sahari belum ada). Rencananya saya hendak 
memberikan buku tersebut untuk staff saya di SP sebagai tanda perpisahan.

Regz,
DannyEugene

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI: www.percaya_engga_percaya.com

[Andre Andre]

empty land msh ada d 840-850 hahaha





From: poetra 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:55:48 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI: www.percaya_engga_percaya.com


Misi bagi2 angpao complete,  mbah? Selanjutnya biar "mekanisme" pasar yg
melanjutkannya. Kalau begitu empty landnya  udah full?

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"
 wrote:
>
> BUMI: www.percaya_ engga_percaya. com
>
>
> http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumipercaya. htm
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument

[Andre Andre]

si baso tahu blm lg pingsan kena hANTAM hahahaha...baso tahu masak baso tahu 
aja loe,jgn harap antm harganya sama kaya baso tahu wakakakabtw analysers 
started to upgrade IDX stocks which could be a sign of bottoming process and 
become a valid sign for investors to jump into IDX...sooner there will be more 
analysers upgrading and upgrading higher stocks so better jump in before others 
does





From: Rei 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:09:00 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument


Bentar pak, Bos BT lagi asik makan baso tahu lsampai upa nahan Antm-nya kali 
hahaha


On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:03 PM,  wrote:

Saya nunggu di 400 ga dapet dapet nih Pak Rei

:) 
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 From: Rei 
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:59:16 +0700
To: 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument


Antm tembus juga 1200...lanjutkah? tapi pak JT sdh bilang 1250 possible ya...
Selamat buat yg masuk di antm (not me...)!

 
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Joe Grunk  wrote:






 
 

* CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 
25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside 
surprise. 
* Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% 
to 25%. 
* Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could 
increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to 
gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period.. 
* Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash 
flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as 
reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. 
* Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter 
offer the only gold exposure in town. 
* Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban 
on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. 
* Upgrade to Outperform. 
 
With best regards,
 
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CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst 
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Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup

[Andre Andre]

hmm...either way Temasek is still very very rich and they are smarter than u 
absolutely hehe





From: Baso TAHU 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:50:23 PM
Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup


Dilusinya gila2an. Sebenernya diambil 40% saja udah hampir nasionalisasi, kan 
tinggal 11% lagi govt jadi mayoritas.
Kasian investor lama macam TEMASEK yg ambil ML di 19$ trus merger dgn BofA 
sudah kedilusi 1/3 awal desember 2008 sekarang harga BofA dikisaran 3-4$, 
desember BofA masih diatas 10$, oktober masih diatas 20$hiih pantesan 
TEMASEK ganti CEO dgn ex-CEO BHP. Soalnya oposisi di Singapore udah gampang 
bikin alasan gimana istri PM disana habiskan duit rakyat. Dia pikir krisis sub 
prime macam, krismon Asia 1998 kali krisis 1-2 taun pulih. 
Itu duit utk beli ML hasil jual sebagian saham2 di Indonesia.

--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Andrian Kurniady  wrote:

From: Andrian Kurniady 
Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 3:05 PM


Waduh saya baru aja mikir mau buka di Citibank (biar bisa transfer2 
dengan account Citibank di luar negeri),
begitu liat minimum relationship account value 50jt, batal dah hahaha.

Mungkin klo udah desperate pol dia bakal melebarkan targetnya ke nasabah
retail jg :P

-Kurniady


2009/2/21 Cumi Goreng Tepung 

Citibank Indonesia gimana kabarnya? Heboh bener dia mempertahankan
nasabahnya. Relationship manager kirim surat bilang bank mereka
baik-baik saja, please do not withdraw your fund. :-)

Nasabah kartu kreditnya juga dirayu dengan bunga rendah 15 persen
pertahun, padahal biasanya 36-40 persen pertahun.

Saatnya pindah ke Bank Mandiri aja nih?


On 2/21/09, Boys n Girls  wrote:
> Yup Kalau ada nasionalisasi yang sial pemegang saham lama. Sahamnya bisa
> terdulisi habis.
> Tapi bukankah sekarang BOA dan C juga sudah mau habis ??
>
> Betul-betul gak ngerti berita sekarang.. gak nyambung
>
> Padahal kalau Citygroup dan BOA dinasionalisasi. .. jauh lebih bagus buat
> ekonomi riil di sana.
>
> Disclaimer ya.. soalnya gak ngerti
>
>
>
> 2009/2/21 sylar_fang 
>
>>
>> ... Happpy Birthday bung HMin ... :) ... smoga chuan trus ya ...
>> trus chuan na bagi2 ke ane juga ... hehehe ...
>>
>> oya bung Hmin kl citigroup dinasionalisasi gmn dgn nasib pemegang
>> saham lain na ? apakah spt kasus na bank century yg diambil alih
>> LPS? ... oya krismon dulu waktu banyak bank swasta yg diambil alih
>> BPPN gmn ya dgn nasib pemegang saham lain na selaen major holder
>> tentu na ? ... apakah saham mereka terdilusi ? atau hilang bgt
>> saja? ... mohon pencerahan na 
>>
>> :)
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com , 

>> Boys n Girls 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Mau tanya nih.
>> > Emang apa jeleknya sih kalau bank seperti Citygroup di
>> Nasionalisasi
>> >
>> > Saya jadi bingung sendiri dengan judul di CNBC..
>> >
>> > "Citygroup dan BOA drop on nasionalisation fear"
>> >
>> > Gak make sense untuk saya. Dalam pikiran saya.. Mereka berdua kalau
>> > dinasionalisasi justru bagus untuk perekonomian. Mirip indonesia
>> dulu
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/2/21 
>> >
>> > > Nationalisasi kayaknya bakal terjadi..
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
>> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
>> > >
>> > >  - -
>> > > *From*: Yuliawati tan
>> > > *Date*: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:10:52 -0800 (PST)
>> > > *To*:
>> > >  

>> >
>> > > *Subject*: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
>> > >
>> > > Citigrup maupun bank of america bisa aja sahamnya jd
>> 0seperti milist
>> > > saya dulu wkt citi msh di hrg 10 $ bahwa saham yg di bail out
>> akan beresiko
>> > > ZERO price.klo dlm 60 hr ke depan ga ada penyelesaian dr mslh
>> yg sedang
>> > > di usut,maka saham2 tersebut akan di ambil alih gov.klo dah
>> gitu bisa di
>> > > tebak deh ga bakal gerak klo ga ada news.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > salam,
>> > > Yulia
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  - -
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>> > > *Kepada:*
>> > > obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 

>> > > *Terkirim:* Jumat, 20 Februari, 2009 22:39:20
>> > > *Topik:* [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
>> > >
>> > > Gila yah.. Citigroup tinggal 2 dollar.. emang bener katanya bisa
>> di
>> > > bawah 1 dollar
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Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup

[Andre Andre]

bisa beli pak, lewat Interactive Broker http://www.interactivebrokers.com atau 
amritrade http://www.tdameritrade.com , tinggal buka acc online,fax dokumen2 yg 
diperlukan,transfer terus dah bisa transaksi, proses kira2 1-2 minggu 





From: simon bolenang 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:59:39 PM
Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup


Sahamnya sudah murah banget, ngak sampe 2 dollar, masak
mau di bikin Lehman B.lagi sih. Kayaknya ngak mungkin, bisa
hancur ekonomi AS bahkan dunia.
Bagaimana cara belil saham di Amrik ya? Sekalian beli untuk judi,
masak 5 tahun ngak balik.

--- On Mon, 2/23/09, Andre Andre  wrote:

From: Andre Andre 
Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 10:12 AM


hmm...either way Temasek is still very very rich and they are smarter than u 
absolutely hehe





 From: Baso TAHU 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:50:23 PM
Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup


Dilusinya gila2an. Sebenernya diambil 40% saja udah hampir nasionalisasi, kan 
tinggal 11% lagi govt jadi mayoritas.
Kasian investor lama macam TEMASEK yg ambil ML di 19$ trus merger dgn BofA 
sudah kedilusi 1/3 awal desember 2008 sekarang harga BofA dikisaran 3-4$, 
desember BofA masih diatas 10$, oktober masih diatas 20$hiih pantesan 
TEMASEK ganti CEO dgn ex-CEO BHP. Soalnya oposisi di Singapore udah gampang 
bikin alasan gimana istri PM disana habiskan duit rakyat. Dia pikir krisis sub 
prime macam, krismon Asia 1998 kali krisis 1-2 taun pulih. 
Itu duit utk beli ML hasil jual sebagian saham2 di Indonesia.

--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Andrian Kurniady  wrote:

From: Andrian Kurniady 
Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 3:05 PM


Waduh saya baru aja mikir mau buka di Citibank (biar bisa transfer2 
dengan account Citibank di luar negeri),
begitu liat minimum relationship account value 50jt, batal dah hahaha.

Mungkin klo udah desperate pol dia bakal melebarkan targetnya ke nasabah
retail jg :P

-Kurniady


2009/2/21 Cumi Goreng Tepung 

Citibank Indonesia gimana kabarnya? Heboh bener dia mempertahankan
nasabahnya. Relationship manager kirim surat bilang bank mereka
baik-baik saja, please do not withdraw your fund. :-)

Nasabah kartu kreditnya juga dirayu dengan bunga rendah 15 persen
pertahun, padahal biasanya 36-40 persen pertahun.

Saatnya pindah ke Bank Mandiri aja nih?


On 2/21/09, Boys n Girls  wrote:
> Yup Kalau ada nasionalisasi yang sial pemegang saham lama. Sahamnya bisa
> terdulisi habis.
> Tapi bukankah sekarang BOA dan C juga sudah mau habis ??
>
> Betul-betul gak ngerti berita sekarang.. gak nyambung
>
> Padahal kalau Citygroup dan BOA dinasionalisasi. .. jauh lebih bagus buat
> ekonomi riil di sana.
>
> Disclaimer ya.. soalnya gak ngerti
>
>
>
> 2009/2/21 sylar_fang 
>
>>
>> ... Happpy Birthday bung HMin ... :) ... smoga chuan trus ya ...
>> trus chuan na bagi2 ke ane juga ... hehehe ...
>>
>> oya bung Hmin kl citigroup dinasionalisasi gmn dgn nasib pemegang
>> saham lain na ? apakah spt kasus na bank century yg diambil alih
>> LPS? ... oya krismon dulu waktu banyak bank swasta yg diambil alih
>> BPPN gmn ya dgn nasib pemegang saham lain na selaen major holder
>> tentu na ? ... apakah saham mereka terdilusi ? atau hilang bgt
>> saja? ... mohon pencerahan na 
>>
>> :)
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com , 

>> Boys n Girls 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Mau tanya nih.
>> > Emang apa jeleknya sih kalau bank seperti Citygroup di
>> Nasionalisasi
>> >
>> > Saya jadi bingung sendiri dengan judul di CNBC..
>> >
>> > "Citygroup dan BOA drop on nasionalisation fear"
>> >
>> > Gak make sense untuk saya. Dalam pikiran saya.. Mereka berdua kalau
>> > dinasionalisasi justru bagus untuk perekonomian. Mirip indonesia
>> dulu
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/2/21 
>> >
>> > > Nationalisasi kayaknya bakal terjadi..
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
>> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
>> > >
>> > >  - -
>> > > *From*: Yuliawati tan
>> > > *Date*: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:10:52 -0800 (PST)
>> > > *To*:
>> > >  

>> >
>> > > *Subject*: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
>> > >
>> > > Citigrup maupun bank of america bisa aja sahamnya jd
>> 0seperti milist
>> > > saya dulu wkt citi msh di hrg 10 $ bahwa saham yg di bail out

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kok dah jadi MERAH nih??

[Andre Andre]

dow biasa bergerak 2.30 baru dahsyat hehe





From: JT 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:23:07 AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kok dah jadi MERAH nih??


Dow baru 'main' 30 menit terakhir..., kalau liat intraday
15 menit, ada kans rebound, indicator dah nyender dibawah, Cuma kalau reboundnya
gak bisa balik lagi ke atas 7450 percuma, berarti Cuma pullback doang.., jadi
harus balik 7450 lagi baru sip... 
 
JT
 
 
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou 
ps.com] On
Behalf Of jkunci
Sent: 23 Februari 2009 23:50
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kok dah jadi MERAH nih??
 
Di Yahoo finance volume intraday makin mengecil, apa itu
tenaganya
juga makin mengecil itu pak JT?
 
salam,
jkunci
 
 
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "JT"
 wrote:
>  
> Maksudnya DOW? Hmmm.., blum ketauan sih.., baru
setengah jalan,
kalau liat tenaganya waktu break low (7450) kemarin sih
agak
mengkhawatirkan juga…, secara volume break down cukup
valid, tapi
secara percentage dan waktu masih belum…, jadi kita
tunggu besok
malem, kalo gak bali lagi ke atas 7450 agak repot
juga…, tapi
anyway, gak usah terlalu dipusingin lah…, toh IHSG bisa
up 1 % lebih
hari ini dan balik lagi ke >1300…, trading masih
bisa kasih gain
5-10 % at this moment..., padahal gak bisa ngeshort, jadi
masih ok
lah…, asal jangan AR kiri berjamaah kayak waktu itu
aja.., nah itu
repot tuh… hehe. 
> 
>  
> 
> JT
> 
>  
> 
> Berikut chart dow as per 23.30
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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> Volumenya cukup gede, Pak JT?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS - RE: Analisa Pergerakan Saham as per 20 Feb 2009 (AALI, ANTM, ASII,BBCA, BUMI, BDMN, PGAS, TINS)

[Andre Andre]

dow biasa bergerak jam 2.30 baru dahsyat hehe





From: JT 
To: cenayank_sa...@yahoogroups.com; milis-a...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; analisasa...@yahoogroups.com; 
my_...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:10:40 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS - RE: Analisa Pergerakan Saham as per 20 Feb 
2009 (AALI, ANTM, ASII,BBCA, BUMI, BDMN, PGAS, TINS)


Pak Pengamat Market.., PGAS kapan tembus 1880 ya? Apa yg
dimaksud tgl 21/01.., kalau iya apakah bisa dianggap valid? Trus kok bisa
diasumsikan bakal ke fibo 61,8% (sekitar 1550’an) padahal fibo 38.2% aja  (1850)
belum tembus?..., advise please.
 
Berikut chart saya sebagai pembanding…, oh ya saya pake
fibo projection (chart 2), malah ada angka 2450’an… hehe
 
Regrds,
 
JsxTrader
 
 
 
 
 
 
From:cenayank_saham@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:cenayank_ sa...@yahoogroup s.com] 
On
Behalf Of Pengamat Market
Sent: 23 Februari 2009 6:13
To: milis-a...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [cenayank_saham] Analisa Pergerakan Saham as per 20 Feb 2009
(AALI, ANTM, ASII,BBCA, BUMI, BDMN, PGAS, TINS)
 
This post originally posted at: www.trend-traders. com
Stock Picking: AALI, ANTM, ASII,BBCA, BUMI, BDMN, PGAS, TINS
Click pada gambar untuk memperbesar
AALI
Terlihat adanya pola Divergence antara harga dan Volume dimana volume mengalami 
kenaikan ketika tetapi harga masih gagal menembus high sebelumnya di 13400. 
Jika AALI berhasil menembus angka high ini, AALI berpeluang untuk bergerak di 
atas level 15000.
Pergerakan volume ketika harga menembus level 13400 perlu diperhatikan. Jika 
ketika harga menembus level 13400 diikuti dengan breakout volume tapi kemudian 
harga kembali bergerak sideways di area tersebut. Maka AALI sangat rawan 
koreksi.
Critical point ada di level fibonacci retrcement 38.2% (10550). Jika level ini 
tembus AALI berpeluang untuk kembali ke level 7500 lagi.
Suggest: Wait and see sampai harga terkonfirmasi lagi dengan breakout dan volume
ANTM
ANTM sedang bergerak sideways di area fibonacci retracement 61.8%, dengan 
diikuti kondisi volume yang menurun. Dengan kondisi seperti ini, pada 
pergerakan selanjutnya sangat besar peluang bagi ANTM untuk kembali menyetuh 
level retracement 100% di harga 850
Critical point berada di level 1040 jika level ini tembus diikuti dengan volume 
breakout maka besar kemungkinan bagi ANTM  untuk kembali menyentuh level 850
Suggest : Perhatikan level critical point, tidak disarankan untuk hold posisi 
di ANTM untuk waktu lama. Peluang buy di harga 850 jika ketika menyentuh level 
ini volume mengalami penurunan.
ASII
ASII sedang bergerak turun dengan diikuti kondisi volume yang menurun. 
Perhatikan pergerakan ASII ketika menyentuh level fibonacci retracement 61.8% . 
Jika sentuhan di level ini diikuti dengan high volume/blow off volume 
kemungkinan telah terjadi selling climax dan terdapat peluang buy di level ini 
dengan target di 13500
Critical point di harga 9600. jika ASII menembus level ini secara psikologis 
harga berpeluang kembali menyentuh level 8500 - 7700
Suggest : Buy di 10100, perhatikan pergerakan harga di area ini. Jika harga 
sideways cukup lama di area ini kemungkinan akan terjadi penurunan harga lebih 
lanjut.
BBCA
BBCA Sedang berada di level fibonacci retracement 61.8% dan sedang berusaha 
menembus critical point di 2450. jika level critical point ini tembus BBCA 
dapat kembali kebawah level 2000 kembali.
Pola pergerakan BBCA seperti yang terlihat di chart sangat rawan dengan 
terjadinya koreksi yang diikuti dengan penurunan harga.
Suggest: Sell jika break level 2450.
BUMI
Terlihat mulai ada penurunan volume ketika harga BUMI bergerak naik ke atas 
level 750. Secara psikolgis kondisi seperti ini sangat rawan koreksi.
Maksimal kenaikan sampai di harga 1060. Dengan Resistance terdekat di 870. Jika 
tembusan keatas level ini tidak diikuti dengan high volume secara psikologis 
menunjukkan bahwa kenaikan BUMI digunakan untuk taking profit
Suggest: tidak disarankan untuk mengambil posisi Buy New lagi di harga BUMI 
sekarang, dikarenakan risk yang lebih besar daripada reward. Perhatikan 
critical point di harga 460.
BDMN
BDMN telah menembus critical point di 2350 dan sedang bergerak naik. Dalam 
kenaikan kali ini kemungkinan akan terjadi buying climax. Secara psikologis 
kondisi kenaikan di BDMN beberapa hari belakangan digunakan sebagai sarana 
taking profit. Dalam kondisi seperti ini BDMN sangat rawan koreksi
Target Koreksi ada di bawah level 1860
Suggest: Disarankan untuk tidak hold BDMN untuk waktu yang lama, karena sudah 
sempat menembus critical point di 2350
PGAS
PGAS sudah menembus level critical point di 1880, untuk sementara PGAS 
berpeluang untuk terus turun sampai ke level fibonacci retracement 61.8%
level critical point selanjutanya ada di 1500, jika level ini tembus PGAS 
berpeluang membuat new low price di bawah harga 1050
TINS
TINS sedang bergerak sideways di area fibonacci 61.8% dengan critical point di 
level 970. Pola yang terbentuk di TINS m

Re: [obrolan-bandar] usd - yen

[Andre Andre]

very good for the carry trade as Japan could export again...weakening yen is 
positive for Japan companies





From: er1ck 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:12:30 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] usd - yen


is it good or bad to stock market ? 

   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNCOVERING THE MYSTERIES

[Andre Andre]

This might help u to decide where is the bottom and whether it has bottomed or 
isn't, but this came from one of my idols who trades the market; Robert 
Prechter, one of the best futures traders in the world and he is using Elliot 
Wave for his trades. You can even find and read about him in the Elliot Wave 
section inside wikipedia.com. 





Time to 'Cover' One of the 

Biggest Trades of All Time
At the end of trading on Monday, Feb. 23, 2009, Robert Prechter closed
the most successful trading recommendation of his 30-year career. His
advice to "cover" the position came near the end of the trading day,
when subscribers received the February 2009 issue of his Elliott Wave
Theorist. This closed a “fully leveraged short position” he recommended
to Theorist subscribers on July 17, 2007, when the S&P was at 1550.
At the time of publication on Monday, Feb. 23, the S&P was trading
below 750.


One measure of the value of this trade is the S&P mini futures
contract, where each point is worth $50. A gain of 800 points on one
contract equals $40,000; 10 contracts would be $400,000; 100 contracts
$4 million. And so on.

A gain of 800
points in 19 months is a historical trade that, to our knowledge, has
never happened before and might never happen again.







From: Elaine Sui 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:43:31 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNCOVERING THE MYSTERIES


Okay. Whatever..  So, everyone is bearish now..?? Anyone else?

Elaine


On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Ratu Sima  wrote:

Before anyone else says, Embah let me humbly uncover some of market mysteries 
below:
 
The fact that DJI & GSPC have crossed their lowest `November' bottom, the 
`Bear' is now taking control of the global market.
 
Next what Aimee?
Parabolic drop will continue its journey. It will create new ever lower lows.
 
How deep Aimee?
DJI will test 6000, GSPC 500 in middle to long term.
 
How come?
Too complicated to tell, investors are awaiting the `new crafted consensus of 
global financial engineering.
 
But why?
The current `stimulus packages' cannot yet return `the trust' from investors. 
Too much disparity scattered.
 
And until when?
Only God knows. But things won't change better near soon.
 
Where?
All indices across this `Planet Earth'.
 
JKSE?
Included.
 
JKSE Bottom?
Only God knows. Our calculation is 700 – 900.
 
USD?
Dollar depreciation will pick up in middle – long term.
 
Why?
Strengthening Euro, Yen, & Yuan.
 
Oil?
Still volatile.
 
Commodities, energy, mining?
Follow oil's trend.
 
Gold?
Time to short. It still can reach higher high at 1.200, though.
 
Real Estate & properties?
Can be hedging against forthcoming inflation, especially commercial but does 
not guarantee different pricing among countries.
 
Message for investors?
Please fully arm yourselves with every technique & knowledge both FA & TA. 
Trust no one, including me. 
 
Message for traders?
Stock volatility & liquidity is the gift you can take advantage of. Please set 
precise entry & exit points while perusing fundamental terrains.
 
Forgive me if it may create inconvenience in you. Please promise me to take 
good care of yourselves and families. Love your capital and utmostly preserve 
your profit.
 
Love,
Ratu Sima (Aimee)
The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Prospek neng MIRA

[Andre Andre]

makan somay aja loe baso tahu jgn ngo...sssttt hahaha



From: Baso TAHU 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:01:16 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Prospek  neng MIRA


Feeling gw MIRA bakal nggak akan ada lagi di bursa dalam 1 taun kedepan. Right 
Issue siapa yg akan beli kalo bukan orang2 goblok berduit! Nah orang goblok 
sekarang lagi bangkrut! Hehe

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, James Liem  wrote:

From: James Liem 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Prospek neng MIRA
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 12:45 PM


dear All 
 
Yg satu ini beredar berita /rumors akan listing di STI soon ... 

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, datasahamku  wrote:

From: datasahamku 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Prospek neng MIRA
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. .com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 10:44 PM



Dari Bisnis Indonesia hari ini...
Rights issue sehatkan kembali rasio utang

* Cetak

Sejak penerbitan saham baru (right issue) tahun lalu, harga saham PT
Mitra Rajasa Tbk anjlok 36%. Namun dalam jangka panjang, saham itu
diperkirakan menguat berkat sumbangan PT Apexindo Duta Pratama Tbk.

Saham perseroan berkode MIRA ini membentuk penguatan sejak kabar
akuisisi Apexindo terkonfirmasi pada April tahun lalu. Dengan
mengacuhkan gonjang-ganjing krisis finansial, saham perusahaan
transportasi ini sempat menyentuh level tertinggi Rp980 pada 19
September 2008.

Sebulan setelah itu, perseroan mengumumkan rights issue yang
berkonsekuensi dilusi jika publik tidak mengeksekusi rights. Dua hari
menjelang eksekusi, harga saham di pasar tergerus dari Rp650 (pada 19
November) menjadi Rp610.

Bisnis mencatat koreksi harga saham MIRA menjelang aksi rights issue
pada 21 November itu terus berlanjut sampai sekarang, dengan koreksi
sepanjang 2009 sebesar 27,2%.

Namun, analis PT Kresna Graha Sekurindo Tbk Jordan Zulkarnaen
berpendapat penerbitan saham baru kedua itu sebagai langkah positif
melunasi beban utang pascaakuisisi Apexindo terhadap neraca keuangan.

"Kami menilai positif keberhasilan Mitra Rajasa rights issue II
Rp875,3 miliar [US$81 juta] baru-baru ini, di tengah kondisi kesulitan
kredit seperti sekarang," tuturnya dalam laporan riset per 12 Januari.

Dengan menggunakan dana hasil rights issue untuk membayar kembali
utangnya, rasio utang terhadap ekuitas (debt to equity ratio/DER) pun
berkurang dari 14,6 kali pada September 2008 menjadi 5,08 kali pada
Desember 2008.

Kondisi ini mengurangi risiko keuangan dan beban bunga perseroan,
sehingga laba bersih berpotensi naik 8% pada akhir 2008 dan 14,2% pada
2009, yakni menjadi Rp120,3 miliar dan Rp470,7 miliar.

Faktor Apexindo

Bahkan, Mitra Rajasa akan menangguk madu dari akuisisi dan rights
issue itu hanya dalam waktu setahun, menyusul kinclongnya kinerja
Apexindo, perusahaan pengeboran yang semula dimiliki keluarga
Panigoro."Kami memperkirakan dalam setahun ke depan, Apexindo
menyumbang 80% pendapatan dan laba bersih Apexindo."

Pendapatan Mitra Rajasa, lanjutnya, berpotensi naik menjadi Rp3,7
triliun, dengan Rp3,5 triliun di antaranya disumbang Apexindo. Laba
operasional diestimasikan senilai Rp1,6 triliun.

Mitra mengakuisisi 80,57% saham Apexindo dari pemilik lama PT Medco
Energi Internasional Tbk dan Encore International Pte Ltd.

Akuisisi ini tuntas pada 11 November 2008 sehingga per 13 Desember,
Mitra memiliki 98,14% saham Apexindo.

Saat ini, Apexindo mengoperasikan enam alat pengeboran darat, dengan
dua di antaranya masih direnovasi. Di luar itu, dua alat pengeboran
berjenis jack-up dan empat berjenis swamp barge masih beroperasi
sampai sekarang.

Integrasi bisnis Mitra Rajasa di bidang truk, unit pengeboran
Apexindo, bisnis kapal kargo, tes sumur minyak, dan FPSO diperkirakan
menjadi sumur penghasil laba yang membuat harga sahamnya di pasar
bergerak atraktif.

Jordan menekankan pentingnya Mitra Rajasa memiliki aset berupa
fasilitas produksi bongkar muat terapung (floating production storage
and offloading/FPSO) , yakni Seagood 101 dari Sabre System Inter Pte
Ltd Singapura.

Aset serupa dengan milik Apexindo itu dinilai efektif mengurangi beban
pajak tak perlu dalam bisnis pengeboran minyak dan pengapalannya.

"Operasi FPSO di bawah bendera Apexindo akan menjadi nilai tambah bagi
Apexindo dan pada gilirannya bagi Mitra Rajasa selaku perusahaan
induk. Operasi tersebut akan lebih efisien yang akan meningkatkan
kemampuan perseroan meraup laba."

Bisnis mencatat Mitra Rajasa merupakan satu-satunya perusahaan
Indonesia yang memiliki tiga unit FPSO (FPSO Sea Good 101 beroperasi
di ladang Oyong, FPSO Sabre 201 tahap pembuatan desain, dan FPSO Putri.

Kresna menilai harga saham sebesar Rp550 merefleksikan pendapatan
Mitra Rajasa sebesar 1,6 kali laba bersih per saham 2009. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "caroline.dewi"
 wrote:
>
> hati hati sama saham neng MIRA. medcnya udach lari bentar lagi neng yg
> cantik ini juga bakalan ngepot? he.he... .
>

 
 

   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] DOW 1994...IHSG Berapa ???

[Andre Andre]

kayanya ga deh pak...ihsg msh dalam trend bullish untuk grand 
supercycle/supercycle...





From: Agus Harimurti 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: sa...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 6:52:46 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] DOW 1994...IHSG Berapa ???


Dow dapat dipastikan malam ini akan berada di level 6000an atau kembali ke 
tahun 1994...Kira- kira berapa IHSG tahun 1994Adakah yang tahu, apakah IHSG 
kita akan kembali ke sana???
 
 

  


 Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! 
Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba!
   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mbah dan para TA ers ,ada bahan tutorial buat Elliot Wave...

[Andre Andre]

* GRAND SUPERCYCLE: multi-century
* Supercycle: multi-decade (about 40-70 years)
* Cycle: one year to several years (or even several decades under an 
Elliott Extension)
* Primary: a few months to a couple of years
* Intermediate: weeks to months
* Minor: weeks
* Minute: days
* Minuette: hours
* Subminuette: minutes





From: JsxTrader™ 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 1:02:43 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mbah dan para TA ers ,ada bahan tutorial buat 
Elliot Wave...


Wah kalo Elwave mainan para pakar tuh.., kalo saya mah cuma trader, ngga 
terlalu saya butuhkan lah.., jujur ngomong saya agak sedikit skeptis dgn 
elwave, tapi mungkin itu karena saya ngga paham aja.., someday saya akan 
perdalam ilmu yg katanya 'mahal' ini, let see lah apakah nanti saya akan tetap 
skeptis atau malah ngefans, buku-bukunya udh saya koleksi, cuma belum 
sempet saya baca..hehe..

Utk sementara saya "Riding The Wave" aja dulu, kalau urusan "Reading The Wave", 
let our Mbah do that...,  Hehehe


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From:  Neeraj Khiani 
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:52:10 -0800 (PST)
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Mbah dan para TA ers ,ada bahan tutorial buat Elliot 
Wave...

Dear Mbah, Pak JT dan Ob'erz
Mohon petunjukny tentang Elliot Wave... Masih gak ngerti , maklum newbie 
Mohon petujuknya juga untuk bahan tutorial Elliot Wave...
Seberapa pentingkah indikator yg satu ini...?? Karena ada beberapa analisis bs 
survive tanpa menggunakan Elliot Wave...
Maaf jadi kebanyakan nanya,... hehe
Thanks ya 
GBU All
Regards
Neeraj 


   


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Indosat Janjikan Potongan Harga bagi Pengguna IM2

[Andre Andre]

hahaha sabar





From: y_dizz 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 2:01:19 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Indosat Janjikan Potongan Harga bagi Pengguna IM2


ISAT = Internet bangSAT

Bener2 bangsat nih, hari ini nggak bisa connect sama sekali.

Regards,
Yudizz

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Kidod25"  wrote:
>
> Indosat Janjikan Potongan Harga bagi Pengguna IM2
> Jum'at, 6 Maret 2009 - 12:22 wib TEXT SIZE :  Stefanus Yugo Hindarto - 
> Okezone 
> Foto: IstJAKARTA - Indosat menjanjikan potongan harga pada tagihan pelanggan 
> yang merasa dirugikan dengan penurunan kualitas layanan data IM2. 
> 
> Hal itu terungkap pada pertemuan antara Badan Regulasi Telekomunikasi 
> Indonesia (BRTI) dengan Indosat dan anak perusahaannya, IM2 terkait penurunan 
> kualitas layanan data. 
> 
> Penurunan kualitas layanan data IM2, membuat Badan Regulasi Telekomunikasi 
> Indonesia (BRTI) memanggil operator telekomunikasi Indosat dan anak 
> perusahaannya, IM2. 
> 
> "Kami telah bertemu dengan Indosat beberapa hari lalu, dan Indosat telah 
> menjelaskan apa yang terjadi dengan kualitas layanan data mereka serta 
> langkah-langkah yang akan mereka lakukan ke depan," kata anggota BRTI, Heru 
> Sutadi saat dihubungi okezone, Jumat (6/3/2009). Hadir dalam pertemuan itu.
> 
> Indosat, lanjut Heru, mengungkapkan kepada BRTI bahwa penurunan kualitas 
> layanan dikarenakan pengguna data khususnya datacard begitu cepat tumbuh dan 
> diminati sehingga untuk daerah-daerah tertentu sudah sangat padat.
> 
> Untuk mengantisipasi penurunan itu, Indosat dan IM2, akan melakukan 
> langkah-langkah seperti membatasi penjualan datacard.
> 
> "Mereka hanya akan menjual datacard di wilayah yang masih tidak terlalu 
> padat, dan mempercepat pembenahan/optimasi jaringan node B," kata Heru.
> 
> Namun diakui Heru, pembatasan penjualan datacard di daerah 'green'  itu sulit 
> untuk diterapkan karena mobilitas seorang pelanggan. 
> 
> "Bisa saja pengguna membeli IM2 di Sarinah, dan menggunakannya di daerah pada 
> seperti Pondok Indah," kata Heru. 
> 
> Selain itu, pengguna yang kesulitan mengakses juga akan mendapatkan 
> alternatif akses pada data.  Lebih lanjut Heru mengungkapkan, BRTI akan terus 
> mengawasi upaya-upaya yang dilakukan Indosat  dan Im2 karena selain berdampak 
> bagi konsumen, penurunan kualitas juga akan berdampak  bagi performa Indosat 
> dan Im2 sendiri. (srn)
>


   


  

Re: [ob] Re: OB jadi SEPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[Andre Andre]

meriam apaan yah mbah and billy?





From: billy_wta 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:05:54 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: OB jadi SEPI





hehehehhehe, embah tahu juga ya ternyata, kalau I udah tahu juga pas chatting 
ama salah satu master disini, hehehehhehehe

GBU

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"  
wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "billy_wta"  wrote:
> >
> > OB kok jadi sepi ya ? hehehehhehehehe, apalagi sejak ko yudizz out from OB, 
> > makin sepi dah nih OB,
> > 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Jangan liat MEDAN FLOOR BEI yg sepi, liat ke Utara Jakarta, meriam
> meriam Marinir segede pohon kelapa sudah diarahkan kegedung 
> BEI, tinggal nunggu KOMANDO aja... hehehe...
>


   


  

Re: [ob] Re: Billy, Oom mau tanya ...

[Andre Andre]

hedge fund kebanyakan itu si tukang goreng saham2...kalo reksadana slow but 
sur.. mereka buy and hold,kalo hedge fund rata2 rada2 kelas berat maennya fast 
and hardcore kekekeke





From: coderman 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:24:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Billy, Oom mau tanya ...





hedgefun itu mirip reksadana gak?
ato reksadana yg initial nya harus size jumbo ya ?

 
On 6/30/09, billy_wta  wrote: 



mungkin om zitiere berminat jadi investor juga dan bergabung sama hedge fund 
netherland tempat billy nanti ? hehehehehhehehhee

NGAREP.COM

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "billy_wta"  
wrote:
>
> istilahnya, memang sambutan ok dari beberapa pihak disana, mereka bukan 
> broker or hedge fund om, tapi lebih ke arah orang2 yang punya duit aje alias 
> kaya dan mereka ini kaya tapi "pemalu" alias gak ngaku kaya atau humble
> 
> nanti 2 bulan lagi billy akan umumkan sekuritas temapt billy bernaung (hedge 
> fund asal belanda itu 0, karena dana kita akan disokong oleh orang-orang 
> german itu,
> 
> Gitu lho intinya
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "billy_wta"  wrote:
> >
> > kita ke frankfurt om, bareng komisaris ASII juga, kita mah gak ke DB, 
> > memang gak diumumin, emang I presiden dateng pake diumumin, hohohohh, dan 
> > kita kan belum tahu apa WTA bisa diterapkan dengan baik di DAX yang 
> > notabene sama seperti US, bergerak lebih ke arah news, jika nanti terbukti 
> > JOSS, nah kita promosi besar2an deh
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Cleopatras Cat  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Lieber Billy,
> > > 
> > > ini Oom zitiere dari blog Billy:
> > > 
> > > " Bahkan WTA berhasil Billy bawa roadshow ke Singapura, Jerman, dan 
> > > minggu depan kira2 midweek di USA "
> > > 
> > > 
> > > tanya: roadshow ke DE memang kapan? sudah? di kota mana? securities apa? 
> > > DB? kok Oom ga dengar2?
> > > 
> > > Grüsse,
> > > 
> > > Oom
> > >
> >
>



   


  

Re: [ob] IHSG: What kind of TA is this ?

[Andre Andre]

amin





From: jsx_consultant 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:20:41 PM
Subject: [ob] IHSG: What kind of TA is this ?





IHSG: What kind of TA is this ?

http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg. htm


   


  

Re: [ob] HARI INI MELEGAKAN ......

[Andre Andre]

Ado ini dow aneh2 aja oil jg aneh2 lagi commodities jg aneh2 echa deh





From: billy_wta 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:41:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] HARI INI MELEGAKAN ..





Yup, wait for the next bearish signal lha, so far RSI masih normal aje tuh, 
jadi untuk sementara nothing to worry lah, anything possible in stock market, 
heheheheheh

GBU

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, h...@... wrote:
>
> Pak... Kenapa setelah lewat tgl 30 Juni dibilang ihsg gak mungkin ke 1600 dan 
> 1630.
> 
> Menurut sy semua mungkin di pasar.
> Dalam trading kita tidak perlu fokus di prediksi tetapi di antisipasi gerakan 
> harga.
> 
> Semua mungkin dipasar dan tidak ada yg tidak mustahil.
> Thx
> Hans
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung 
> Teruuusss... !
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "FromBuitenzorg" 
> 
> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:47:52 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] HARI INI MELEGAKAN ..
> 
> 
> 
> HARI2 menjelang Pilpres, hari ini melegakan dan yang paling penting
> indeks (IHSG) masih bertengger di atas 2000-an :)
> 
> Artinya indeks 1600/1630 sudah batal, karena tgl 30 Juni sudah terlewati
> dg aman dan nyaman. Seperti yg dikatakan kalo melewati 30 juni akan
> aman
> 
> Selanjutnya apabila nanti Presiden terpilih sesuai keinginan PASAR, maka
> hampir dapat dipastikan akan BULLISH...
> 
> 
> Rgrds
>