Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
test...
Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.

test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga postingan
dari OB :p

Salam,


2009/10/12 Embah 

>
> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
>
>
> Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member OB
> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
>
> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@yahoo.com.sg]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> To: jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
> Subject: Milis OB
>
> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg terjadi
> ya??? Pls advise.
> Enerchi BlackBerryR
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik BEJ Watch
Ane bantuin yaaa...


2009/10/12 boyz® 

>
>
> test...
> Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.
>
> test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga postingan
> dari OB :p
>
> Salam,
>
>
> 2009/10/12 Embah 
>
>
>> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
>>
>>
>> Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member OB
>> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
>>
>> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@yahoo.com.sg]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
>> To: jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
>> Subject: Milis OB
>>
>> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg
>> terjadi
>> ya??? Pls advise.
>> Enerchi BlackBerryR
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 


Test. Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik inpestorpembelajar
Tes buat P Boyz -()-


Sent from my BlackBerry®
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

-Original Message-
From: boyz® 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:04:54 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .RE: Milis OB

test...
Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.

test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga postingan
dari OB :p

Salam,


2009/10/12 Embah 

>
> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
>
>
> Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member OB
> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
>
> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@yahoo.com.sg]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> To: jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
> Subject: Milis OB
>
> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg terjadi
> ya??? Pls advise.
> Enerchi BlackBerryR
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik dholiaq
testing pak boyz gimane, terima ndak


2009/10/12 boyz® 

>
>
> test...
> Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.
>
> test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga postingan
> dari OB :p
>
> Salam,
>
>
> 2009/10/12 Embah 
>
>>
>> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
>>
>>
>> Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member OB
>> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
>>
>> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@yahoo.com.sg]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
>> To: jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
>> Subject: Milis OB
>>
>> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg
>> terjadi
>> ya??? Pls advise.
>> Enerchi BlackBerryR
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>  
>


Bls: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Ned Putra
Test BUMI gimana ? pak Boys, Mbah, Prof JT  dll. tq





Dari: boyz® 
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Sen, 12 Oktober, 2009 14:04:54
Judul: Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .RE: Milis OB

  
test...
Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.

test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga postingan dari 
OB :p

Salam,



2009/10/12 Embah 


>>Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
>
>
>>Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member OB
>>dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
>
>>Mohon konfirmasinya ...
>
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@yahoo. com.sg]
>>Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
>>To: Jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
>>Subject: Milis OB
>
>>Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg terjadi
>>ya??? Pls advise.
>>Enerchi BlackBerryR
>
>
>
>
>> - - --
>
>>+ +
>>+ + + + +
>>Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>>kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>>+ + + + +
>>+ +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

   


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Bls: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik kobayashi mitsukuni
test





Dari: boyz® 
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Sen, 12 Oktober, 2009 14:04:54
Judul: Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .RE: Milis OB

  
test...
Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.

test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga postingan dari 
OB :p

Salam,



2009/10/12 Embah 


>Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
>
>
>Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member OB
>dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
>
>Mohon konfirmasinya ...
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@yahoo. com.sg]
>Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
>To: Jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
>Subject: Milis OB
>
>Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg terjadi
>ya??? Pls advise.
>Enerchi BlackBerryR
>
>
>
>
> - - --
>
>+ +
>+ + + + +
>Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>+ + + + +
>+ +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>




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[ob] BNBR mau buy back yah ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik tjetjun
di etrading katanya BNBR mau buy back anak perusahaannya ? apa yang hari itu 
dijual Rp. 1700,- ? jualnya ama BNBR atau ada pihak ketiga untuk jual lagi ke 
BNBR ?

salam



Bls: [ob] BUMI intradays

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
keknya bos arto nge-short dulu deh tadi...
mau liat2 dulu ya pak hehehe

Dario Amran

--- Pada Sen, 12/10/09, Hans Kwee  menulis:


Dari: Hans Kwee 
Judul: [ob] BUMI intradays
Kepada: "Obrolan Bandar Groups" , "Saham 
Groups" , "Milis AATI Groups" 
, "Metastock Id Groups" 
, amibroker...@yahoogroups.com, 
jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 12 Oktober, 2009, 9:40 AM


  



BUMI data intradays double bottoms di intradays... break ke atas di 2850
target kenaikan ke 3000
pull back ke 2850...

Disclaimer On

thx
Hans
















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[ob] ADRO - mau kemana nih?? JT, HANS dll

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik B_ND
OB'ers yg jago TA,
ADRO mau kemana nih? kok ngubek2 di 1400, lah sekarang mulai nyenggol2 1380?

Salam,


Bls: [ob] BNBR mau buy back yah ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
kek nya yg beli 1700 itu orderan Ancora yg dulu minjemin duit ke bnbr...minta 
jaminan tambahan kali dia...hehehe

Dario Amran

--- Pada Sen, 12/10/09, tjetjun  menulis:


Dari: tjetjun 
Judul: [ob] BNBR mau buy back yah ?
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 12 Oktober, 2009, 2:18 PM


  



di etrading katanya BNBR mau buy back anak perusahaannya ? apa yang hari itu 
dijual Rp. 1700,- ? jualnya ama BNBR atau ada pihak ketiga untuk jual lagi ke 
BNBR ?

salam

















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Lebih Cepat hari ini! http://id.mail.yahoo.com

Re: [ob] ADRO - mau kemana nih?? JT, HANS dll

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
ADRO terditeksi sideways berat...

power naik belum ada...
masih dalam range perdanganan

pertahanan ada di 1370

1380 - 1390 sih spek buy aja... tapi kudu sabar pak tunggu dia
konsolidasi
kalau mau cepet tunggu dia main diatas 1460 baru kita ikutan

thx
Hans


2009/10/12 B_ND 

>
>
> OB'ers yg jago TA,
> ADRO mau kemana nih? kok ngubek2 di 1400, lah sekarang mulai nyenggol2
> 1380?
>
> Salam,
>  
>


Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik m4573rs

Error-nya belum selesai kayaknya, mBah.

tetep email yg di yahoo.com.sg belum terima posting dari OB. 

Ini ane reply dari web yahoogroups.



Thx atas bantuan rekan2. :)



Salam,



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dholiaq  wrote:
>
> testing pak boyz gimane, terima ndak
>
>
> 2009/10/12 boyz® m457...@...
>
> >
> >
> > test...
> > Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.
> >
> > test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga
postingan
> > dari OB :p
> >
> > Salam,
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/12 Embah jsx-consult...@...
> >
> >>
> >> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
> >>
> >>
> >> Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami
member OB
> >> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
> >>
> >> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@...]
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> >> To: jsx-consult...@...
> >> Subject: Milis OB
> >>
> >> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg
> >> terjadi
> >> ya??? Pls advise.
> >> Enerchi BlackBerryR
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> + +
> >> + + + + +
> >> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> >> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> >> + + + + +
> >> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>



RE: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Jsx_consultant
Berarti orang Indonesia yg banyak duitnya di Singapore 
seperti pak Boyz belum selesai dikerjainnya hehehe...
 
BUMI ja nyentuh 2800 lagi
 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of m4573rs
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:47 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .RE: Milis OB


  


Error-nya belum selesai kayaknya, mBah. 

tetep email yg di yahoo.com.sg belum terima posting dari OB. 

Ini ane reply dari web yahoogroups.

Thx atas bantuan rekan2. :)

Salam,




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dholiaq  wrote:
>
> testing pak boyz gimane, terima ndak
> 
> 
> 2009/10/12 boyzR m457...@...
> 
> >
> >
> > test...
> > Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.
> >
> > test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga
postingan
> > dari OB :p
> >
> > Salam,
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/12 Embah jsx-consult...@...
> >
> >>
> >> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
> >>
> >>
> >> Mau tanya: Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member
OB
> >> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
> >>
> >> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@...]
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> >> To: jsx-consult...@...
> >> Subject: Milis OB
> >>
> >> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg
> >> terjadi
> >> ya??? Pls advise.
> >> Enerchi BlackBerryR
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> + +
> >> + + + + +
> >> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> >> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> >> + + + + +
> >> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > 
> >
>





Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Berarti orang Indonesia yg banyak duitnya di Singapore
seperti pak Boyz belon selesai dikerjainnya... hehehe...

BUMI aja nyentuh 2800 lagi...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "m4573rs"  wrote:
>
> 
> Error-nya belum selesai kayaknya, mBah.
> 
> tetep email yg di yahoo.com.sg belum terima posting dari OB. 
> 
> Ini ane reply dari web yahoogroups.
> 
> 
> 
> Thx atas bantuan rekan2. :)
> 
> 
> 
> Salam,
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dholiaq  wrote:
> >
> > testing pak boyz gimane, terima ndak
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/12 boyz® m4573rs@
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > test...
> > > Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.
> > >
> > > test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga
> postingan
> > > dari OB :p
> > >
> > > Salam,
> > >
> > >
> > > 2009/10/12 Embah jsx-consultant@
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami
> member OB
> > >> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
> > >>
> > >> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@]
> > >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> > >> To: Jsx-consultant@
> > >> Subject: Milis OB
> > >>
> > >> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg
> > >> terjadi
> > >> ya??? Pls advise.
> > >> Enerchi BlackBerryR
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>
> > >> + +
> > >> + + + + +
> > >> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > >> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > >> + + + + +
> > >> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>




Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
Aminn... di do'ain banyak duit sama mBah :D
Mungkin memang karena yahoo memang lagi error kali mBah.

Salam,

2009/10/12 jsx_consultant 

> Berarti orang Indonesia yg banyak duitnya di Singapore
> seperti pak Boyz belon selesai dikerjainnya... hehehe...
>
> BUMI aja nyentuh 2800 lagi...
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "m4573rs"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Error-nya belum selesai kayaknya, mBah.
> >
> > tetep email yg di yahoo.com.sg belum terima posting dari OB.
> >
> > Ini ane reply dari web yahoogroups.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thx atas bantuan rekan2. :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Salam,
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dholiaq  wrote:
> > >
> > > testing pak boyz gimane, terima ndak
> > >
> > >
> > > 2009/10/12 boyz® m4573rs@
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > test...
> > > > Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.
> > > >
> > > > test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga
> > postingan
> > > > dari OB :p
> > > >
> > > > Salam,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2009/10/12 Embah jsx-consultant@
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami
> > member OB
> > > >> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@]
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> > > >> To: Jsx-consultant@
> > > >> Subject: Milis OB
> > > >>
> > > >> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg
> > > >> terjadi
> > > >> ya??? Pls advise.
> > > >> Enerchi BlackBerryR
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >>
> > > >> + +
> > > >> + + + + +
> > > >> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > >> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > >> + + + + +
> > > >> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


[ob] Re: Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik edwardprasetya
Embah,

Sampai hari ini, 12-10-2009, 15.25WIB, saya masih belum bisa terima email dari 
OB. Email terakhir hari kamis minggu lalu.
Tolong dibantu ya mbah. Thanks a lot.

Rgds,
Edward

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Embah"  wrote:
>
>  
> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
> 
> 
> Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member OB
> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
> 
> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@...] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> To: jsx-consult...@...
> Subject: Milis OB
> 
> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg terjadi
> ya??? Pls advise.
> Enerchi BlackBerryR
>




Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Winoto99
Seorang teman mempunyai motto :

"Be Joyful & share your joyful with others"



- Original Message - 
From: "jsx_consultant" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:40 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?


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belum tercapai...

Setiap HARI dan Setiap SAAT adalah KENIKMATAN 

Embah merasa NIKMAT dari detik pertama embah bangun pagi
dengan SEHAT karena Tuhan masih memberikan KARUNIANYA yg
terbesar bagi manusia yaitu KEHIDUPAN.

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Buat kelanjutannya tanya ama Aagym aja... embah bukan ahlinya..












--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, habe@... wrote:
>
> Mbah,
> Setelah bertahun-tahun mengawal milis dan expert di bandarmologi, tentunya
"produksi uang" hanya masalah seberapa banyak...
> Jadi nikmatnya dimana Mbah? Selaku newbie dan suatu saat ingin bisa
mencapai level spt Mbah, setelah itu bingung mau apa..
> Trims Mbah..
>
> Habe
> Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
>






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[ob] Re: Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Anda bisa melakukan Tindakan Sementara dengan memindahkan
email untuk menerima posting milis ke ALTERNATE EMAIL (email
address yg yg lain) seperti yg dilakukan pak Boyz...

Anda bisa merubah Recipient Email ini melalui EDIT MEMBERSHIP
menu di Web Yahoogroups.




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "edwardprasetya"  
wrote:
>
> Embah,
> 
> Sampai hari ini, 12-10-2009, 15.25WIB, saya masih belum bisa terima email 
> dari OB. Email terakhir hari kamis minggu lalu.
> Tolong dibantu ya mbah. Thanks a lot.
> 
> Rgds,
> Edward
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Embah"  wrote:
> >
> >  
> > Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
> > 
> > 
> > Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member OB
> > dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
> > 
> > Mohon konfirmasinya ...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@] 
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> > To: Jsx-consultant@
> > Subject: Milis OB
> > 
> > Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg terjadi
> > ya??? Pls advise.
> > Enerchi BlackBerryR
> >
>




Re: [ob] ADRO - mau kemana nih?? JT, HANS dll

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik B_ND
Thx pak Hans... saya tunggu dah kalo gitu.

2009/10/12 Hans Kwee 

>
>
> ADRO terditeksi sideways berat...
>
> power naik belum ada...
> masih dalam range perdanganan
>
> pertahanan ada di 1370
>
> 1380 - 1390 sih spek buy aja... tapi kudu sabar pak tunggu dia
> konsolidasi
> kalau mau cepet tunggu dia main diatas 1460 baru kita ikutan
>
> thx
> Hans
>
>
> 2009/10/12 B_ND 
>
>>
>>
>> OB'ers yg jago TA,
>> ADRO mau kemana nih? kok ngubek2 di 1400, lah sekarang mulai nyenggol2
>> 1380?
>>
>> Salam,
>>
>
>
>
> 


AW: [ob] Re: Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik jopie santoso
Seting ke yahoo classic dulu

--- jsx_consultant  schrieb am Mo, 12.10.2009:


Von: jsx_consultant 
Betreff: [ob] Re: Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .RE: Milis OB
An: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Montag, 12. Oktober 2009, 10:32


  



Anda bisa melakukan Tindakan Sementara dengan memindahkan
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address yg yg lain) seperti yg dilakukan pak Boyz...

Anda bisa merubah Recipient Email ini melalui EDIT MEMBERSHIP
menu di Web Yahoogroups.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "edwardprasetya"  wrote:
>
> Embah,
> 
> Sampai hari ini, 12-10-2009, 15.25WIB, saya masih belum bisa terima email 
> dari OB. Email terakhir hari kamis minggu lalu.
> Tolong dibantu ya mbah. Thanks a lot.
> 
> Rgds,
> Edward
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Embah"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
> > 
> > 
> > Mau tanya: Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member OB
> > dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
> > 
> > Mohon konfirmasinya ...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofakmi@ ] 
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> > To: Jsx-consultant@
> > Subject: Milis OB
> > 
> > Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg terjadi
> > ya??? Pls advise.
> > Enerchi BlackBerryR
> >
>

















  

[ob] ihsg

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik swan silo
MOhon pencerahan.apa kira2 yang terjadi esok hari apabila penurunan hari 
ini IHSG memotong uptrend line



  Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih 
cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. 
Dapatkan IE8 di sini! 
http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/

[ob] SMART+IPOT

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik h153tu
Wah2 15 menit sblm closing gak bisa koneksi k IPOT untuk SMART
Ckck
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!



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Re: [ob] SMART+IPOT

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
wah saya tadinya mau pasang smart
tapi kalau gini gak jadi deh...ganguan melulu...
bisa2 gak smart lagi dong hehe...

thx
Hans


2009/10/12  :
> Wah2 15 menit sblm closing gak bisa koneksi k IPOT untuk SMART
> Ckck
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> Teruuusss...!
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Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik David Lau
Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti hanyalah orang² yg tingkat 
spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama Sang Pencipta).

 
Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.


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- Original Message - 
From: "jsx_consultant" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:40 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

Tuhan memberikan KENIKMATAN SETIAP SAAT kalo anda BISA
MENSYUKURI apapun yg Tuhan berikan.

Jadi untuk mencapai KENIKMATAN itu tidak perlu menunggu
sampai cita cita anda TERCAPAI. Kalo anda punya pikiran
seperti ini berarti anda MENDERITA selama cita2 anda
belum tercapai...

Setiap HARI dan Setiap SAAT adalah KENIKMATAN 

Embah merasa NIKMAT dari detik pertama embah bangun pagi
dengan SEHAT karena Tuhan masih memberikan KARUNIANYA yg
terbesar bagi manusia yaitu KEHIDUPAN.

Tapi kalo anda mau MENGHILANGKAN KEMIKMATAN ini karena ada yg
anda inginkan belum tercapai, itu TERGANTUNG pribadi masing2.

Tapi pada dasarnya Tuhan SUDAH memberikan kita KENIKMATAN dan
KEBAHAGIAN dari DETIK PERTAMA kita lahir sampai kita menghembuskan
nafas terakhir, Tinggal persepsi kita masing2 MEMANDANG INI...

Buat kelanjutannya tanya ama Aagym aja... embah bukan ahlinya..

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, habe@... wrote:
>
> Mbah,
> Setelah bertahun-tahun mengawal milis dan expert di bandarmologi, tentunya
"produksi uang" hanya masalah seberapa banyak...
> Jadi nikmatnya dimana Mbah? Selaku newbie dan suatu saat ingin bisa
mencapai level spt Mbah, setelah itu bingung mau apa..
> Trims Mbah..
>
> Habe
> Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
>

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[ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik tjetjun
pernah saya merasakan hari yang sangat indah, semua jalanan nampaknya seperti 
kaca atau pelangi, semua gedung seakan dari platinum atau kristal indah 
sekali alam itu.. seakan seluruh cahaya ada disekitar kita... sayang waktu itu 
hanya pernah saya nikmati satu hari... :)

hari yang indah

salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, David Lau  wrote:
>
> Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti hanyalah orang² yg 
> tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama Sang Pencipta).
> 
>  
> Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
> 
> 
> Regards,...
> DvD™
> 
> "In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:40 PM
> Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
> 
> Tuhan memberikan KENIKMATAN SETIAP SAAT kalo anda BISA
> MENSYUKURI apapun yg Tuhan berikan.
> 
> Jadi untuk mencapai KENIKMATAN itu tidak perlu menunggu
> sampai cita cita anda TERCAPAI. Kalo anda punya pikiran
> seperti ini berarti anda MENDERITA selama cita2 anda
> belum tercapai...
> 
> Setiap HARI dan Setiap SAAT adalah KENIKMATAN 
> 
> Embah merasa NIKMAT dari detik pertama embah bangun pagi
> dengan SEHAT karena Tuhan masih memberikan KARUNIANYA yg
> terbesar bagi manusia yaitu KEHIDUPAN.
> 
> Tapi kalo anda mau MENGHILANGKAN KEMIKMATAN ini karena ada yg
> anda inginkan belum tercapai, itu TERGANTUNG pribadi masing2.
> 
> Tapi pada dasarnya Tuhan SUDAH memberikan kita KENIKMATAN dan
> KEBAHAGIAN dari DETIK PERTAMA kita lahir sampai kita menghembuskan
> nafas terakhir, Tinggal persepsi kita masing2 MEMANDANG INI...
> 
> Buat kelanjutannya tanya ama Aagym aja... embah bukan ahlinya..
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, habe.inc@ wrote:
> >
> > Mbah,
> > Setelah bertahun-tahun mengawal milis dan expert di bandarmologi, tentunya
> "produksi uang" hanya masalah seberapa banyak...
> > Jadi nikmatnya dimana Mbah? Selaku newbie dan suatu saat ingin bisa
> mencapai level spt Mbah, setelah itu bingung mau apa..
> > Trims Mbah..
> >
> > Habe
> > Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
> >
> 
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Re: [ob] Re: [JT] ”Optimization of Technical Analy sis Workshop” Sabtu 31 Oktober 2009

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik |A|M|
klo price and volume relationship dari prof JT kapan pak hans ??
apakah berdekatan dengan tanggal tersebut?

On 10/12/09, Hans Kwee  wrote:
> Selamat siang pak
>
> Jadwal WS Optimalisasi di surabaya rencananya tanggal 14 November 2009
> Minimal peserta 30 orang, biaya Rp. 1.500.000,-
>
> terima kasih
> Hans
>
>
>
> 2009/10/12 yosua 
>
>>
>>
>> pak hans...utk WS disurabaya jadinya kapan nich?tks
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 10/12/09, Hans Kwee * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Hans Kwee 
>> Subject: [JT] ”Optimization of Technical Analysis Workshop” Sabtu 31
>> Oktober 2009
>> To: "Obrolan Bandar Groups" , "Saham
>> Groups" , "Milis AATI Groups" <
>> milis-a...@yahoogroups.com>, jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 11:52 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> Kenapa setiap kali anda memakai indikator teknikal tidak akurat dan
>> sering telat memberikan signal buy atau sell ? Tahukah Anda bahwa ada
>> cara yang jitu untuk mendapatkan periode atau parameter yang tepat
>> untuk masing-masing saham dengan indikator yang cocok ? Kenapa Anda
>> selalu kecewa dengan trend line yang tidak akurat dalam penentuan
>> support dan resistance ? Dapatkah anda menghitung potensial
>> upside/downside suatu pergerakkan saham sehingga Anda yakin akan
>> posisi entry dan exit Anda sudah benar ? Dapatkah secara statistik
>> sederhana membantu Anda dalam memecahkan masalah diatas ?
>>
>> Temukan jawabannya di :
>> Optimization of Technical Analysis Workshop
>> Sabtu, 31 Oktober, pukul 9.00 s/d 17.00 WIB
>>
>> Tempat :
>> Tempat : Hotel Ibis Tamarin
>> Jalan KH Wahid Hasyim No. 77
>> Jakarta 10340 Indonesia
>> Telp 021 391 2323 / Fax 021 3157707
>> http://www.ibishote l.com/asia/ 
>>
>> Materi :
>> 1. Penentuan starting point analysis.
>> 2. Optimasi indikator teknikal (MACD,EMA,W% R,MFI. dll..)
>> 3. Risk & Reward
>>
>> Persyaratan : Minimal sudah bisa pengopersian Metastock
>>
>> Pengajar :
>> Tasrul Tanar
>>
>> Biaya worshop :
>> Rp. 1.200.000,- (satu juta dua ratus ribu rupiah)
>> Diskont Rp. 100.000,- (seratus ribu) untuk pembayaran
>> sebelum Jumat, 23 Oktober 2009
>>
>> Transfer ke:
>> Rek BCA No 206 0032 001
>> a/n Yohanis
>>
>> Informasi dan Pendaftaran
>> Mariana: 021-71057898
>> Email Mariana_strsrv@ yahoo.co.
>> id
>>
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Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik charles_3983
Bozz ga selesai2 ngerjain trader ni...

BUMI udah mau bikin double bottom... ntar kalo bozz masih blm puas bakal 
dibikin triple bottom... masih blm puas lagi jadi quadruple bottom, 
quintuple... dst. hahahah... dikocok2 terus ampe bozz puas :))


canda.com


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wrote:
>
> Berarti orang Indonesia yg banyak duitnya di Singapore
> seperti pak Boyz belon selesai dikerjainnya... hehehe...
> 
> BUMI aja nyentuh 2800 lagi...
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "m4573rs"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Error-nya belum selesai kayaknya, mBah.
> > 
> > tetep email yg di yahoo.com.sg belum terima posting dari OB. 
> > 
> > Ini ane reply dari web yahoogroups.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thx atas bantuan rekan2. :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Salam,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dholiaq  wrote:
> > >
> > > testing pak boyz gimane, terima ndak
> > >
> > >
> > > 2009/10/12 boyz® m4573rs@
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > test...
> > > > Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.
> > > >
> > > > test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga
> > postingan
> > > > dari OB :p
> > > >
> > > > Salam,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2009/10/12 Embah jsx-consultant@
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami
> > member OB
> > > >> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@]
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> > > >> To: Jsx-consultant@
> > > >> Subject: Milis OB
> > > >>
> > > >> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg
> > > >> terjadi
> > > >> ya??? Pls advise.
> > > >> Enerchi BlackBerryR
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[ob] Ada apa turun?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin
Seharian nggak pantau market..kenapa turun ya? Bumi effect kah?
Padahal eropa ++, oil siap2 break 73..
Dow fut jg ijo royo2?
Any comment..
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Re: [ob] Ada apa turun?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik jkunci
Kalau di OB ga yg ribut, artinya market baek2 aja. Jadi tinggal tunggu rebound 
aja. Index masih bullish dengan cendrung sideway, nunggu oil breakhigh. 

Salam,

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To: OB
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Subject: [ob] Ada apa turun?
Sent: Oct 12, 2009 17:02

Seharian nggak pantau market..kenapa turun ya? Bumi effect kah?
Padahal eropa ++, oil siap2 break 73..
Dow fut jg ijo royo2?
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[ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik iching_prediction
taat krn takut nga akan meningkatkan spritual seseorang

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, David Lau  wrote:
>
> Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti hanyalah orang² yg 
> tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama Sang Pencipta).
> 
>  
> Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
> 
> 
> Regards,...
> DvD™
> 
> "In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:40 PM
> Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
> 
> Tuhan memberikan KENIKMATAN SETIAP SAAT kalo anda BISA
> MENSYUKURI apapun yg Tuhan berikan.
> 
> Jadi untuk mencapai KENIKMATAN itu tidak perlu menunggu
> sampai cita cita anda TERCAPAI. Kalo anda punya pikiran
> seperti ini berarti anda MENDERITA selama cita2 anda
> belum tercapai...
> 
> Setiap HARI dan Setiap SAAT adalah KENIKMATAN 
> 
> Embah merasa NIKMAT dari detik pertama embah bangun pagi
> dengan SEHAT karena Tuhan masih memberikan KARUNIANYA yg
> terbesar bagi manusia yaitu KEHIDUPAN.
> 
> Tapi kalo anda mau MENGHILANGKAN KEMIKMATAN ini karena ada yg
> anda inginkan belum tercapai, itu TERGANTUNG pribadi masing2.
> 
> Tapi pada dasarnya Tuhan SUDAH memberikan kita KENIKMATAN dan
> KEBAHAGIAN dari DETIK PERTAMA kita lahir sampai kita menghembuskan
> nafas terakhir, Tinggal persepsi kita masing2 MEMANDANG INI...
> 
> Buat kelanjutannya tanya ama Aagym aja... embah bukan ahlinya..
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, habe.inc@ wrote:
> >
> > Mbah,
> > Setelah bertahun-tahun mengawal milis dan expert di bandarmologi, tentunya
> "produksi uang" hanya masalah seberapa banyak...
> > Jadi nikmatnya dimana Mbah? Selaku newbie dan suatu saat ingin bisa
> mencapai level spt Mbah, setelah itu bingung mau apa..
> > Trims Mbah..
> >
> > Habe
> > Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
> >
> 
>  - - --
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Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik jkunci
Takut secara alamiah akan membuat kita menjauh. Cinta akan mendekatkan biarpun 
seberapapun jauhnya. Cinta dan takut itu saling bertolak belakang. 

Salam,

Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: "iching_prediction" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:04:43 
To: 
Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

taat krn takut nga akan meningkatkan spritual seseorang

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, David Lau  wrote:
>
> Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti hanyalah orang² yg 
> tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama Sang Pencipta).
> 
>  
> Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
> 
> 
> Regards,...
> DvDâ„¢
> 
> "In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
>
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:40 PM
> Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
> 
> Tuhan memberikan KENIKMATAN SETIAP SAAT kalo anda BISA
> MENSYUKURI apapun yg Tuhan berikan.
> 
> Jadi untuk mencapai KENIKMATAN itu tidak perlu menunggu
> sampai cita cita anda TERCAPAI. Kalo anda punya pikiran
> seperti ini berarti anda MENDERITA selama cita2 anda
> belum tercapai...
> 
> Setiap HARI dan Setiap SAAT adalah KENIKMATAN 
> 
> Embah merasa NIKMAT dari detik pertama embah bangun pagi
> dengan SEHAT karena Tuhan masih memberikan KARUNIANYA yg
> terbesar bagi manusia yaitu KEHIDUPAN.
> 
> Tapi kalo anda mau MENGHILANGKAN KEMIKMATAN ini karena ada yg
> anda inginkan belum tercapai, itu TERGANTUNG pribadi masing2.
> 
> Tapi pada dasarnya Tuhan SUDAH memberikan kita KENIKMATAN dan
> KEBAHAGIAN dari DETIK PERTAMA kita lahir sampai kita menghembuskan
> nafas terakhir, Tinggal persepsi kita masing2 MEMANDANG INI...
> 
> Buat kelanjutannya tanya ama Aagym aja... embah bukan ahlinya..
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, habe.inc@ wrote:
> >
> > Mbah,
> > Setelah bertahun-tahun mengawal milis dan expert di bandarmologi, tentunya
> "produksi uang" hanya masalah seberapa banyak...
> > Jadi nikmatnya dimana Mbah? Selaku newbie dan suatu saat ingin bisa
> mencapai level spt Mbah, setelah itu bingung mau apa..
> > Trims Mbah..
> >
> > Habe
> > Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
> >
> 
>  - - --
> 
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Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik ENERCHI
Test ...nikmatnya dimana...
ENERCHI BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:14:48 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

Takut secara alamiah akan membuat kita menjauh. Cinta akan mendekatkan biarpun 
seberapapun jauhnya. Cinta dan takut itu saling bertolak belakang. 

Salam,

Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: "iching_prediction" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:04:43 
To: 
Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

taat krn takut nga akan meningkatkan spritual seseorang

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, David Lau  wrote:
>
> Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti hanyalah orang² yg 
> tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama Sang Pencipta).
> 
>  
> Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
> 
> 
> Regards,...
> DvDâ„¢
> 
> "In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
>
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:40 PM
> Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
> 
> Tuhan memberikan KENIKMATAN SETIAP SAAT kalo anda BISA
> MENSYUKURI apapun yg Tuhan berikan.
> 
> Jadi untuk mencapai KENIKMATAN itu tidak perlu menunggu
> sampai cita cita anda TERCAPAI. Kalo anda punya pikiran
> seperti ini berarti anda MENDERITA selama cita2 anda
> belum tercapai...
> 
> Setiap HARI dan Setiap SAAT adalah KENIKMATAN 
> 
> Embah merasa NIKMAT dari detik pertama embah bangun pagi
> dengan SEHAT karena Tuhan masih memberikan KARUNIANYA yg
> terbesar bagi manusia yaitu KEHIDUPAN.
> 
> Tapi kalo anda mau MENGHILANGKAN KEMIKMATAN ini karena ada yg
> anda inginkan belum tercapai, itu TERGANTUNG pribadi masing2.
> 
> Tapi pada dasarnya Tuhan SUDAH memberikan kita KENIKMATAN dan
> KEBAHAGIAN dari DETIK PERTAMA kita lahir sampai kita menghembuskan
> nafas terakhir, Tinggal persepsi kita masing2 MEMANDANG INI...
> 
> Buat kelanjutannya tanya ama Aagym aja... embah bukan ahlinya..
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, habe.inc@ wrote:
> >
> > Mbah,
> > Setelah bertahun-tahun mengawal milis dan expert di bandarmologi, tentunya
> "produksi uang" hanya masalah seberapa banyak...
> > Jadi nikmatnya dimana Mbah? Selaku newbie dan suatu saat ingin bisa
> mencapai level spt Mbah, setelah itu bingung mau apa..
> > Trims Mbah..
> >
> > Habe
> > Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
> >
> 
>  - - --
> 
> + +
> + + + + +
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Re: [ob] Ada apa turun?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
Capital OutFlow?  Sorry, bukan maksud menakuti.
Saya ga terlalu merhatikan, barangkali ada yg perhatiin Money Flow
belakangan ini?
mBah, Elaine, Kang Bagus, om HMin, om DE, bang ABN or rekan2 yg lain pls
share.

Salam,


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Peter Alimin  wrote:

> Seharian nggak pantau market..kenapa turun ya? Bumi effect kah?
> Padahal eropa ++, oil siap2 break 73..
> Dow fut jg ijo royo2?
> Any comment..
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Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
Kalau takut mencintai 
or takut jatuh cinta  ??

*Dangdut mode ON*. :p



2009/10/12 

>
>
> Takut secara alamiah akan membuat kita menjauh. Cinta akan mendekatkan
> biarpun seberapapun jauhnya. Cinta dan takut itu saling bertolak belakang.
>
> Salam,
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> --
> *From: * "iching_prediction" 
> *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:04:43 -
> *To: *
> *Subject: *[ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
>
>
>
> taat krn takut nga akan meningkatkan spritual seseorang
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> David Lau  wrote:
> >
> > Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti hanyalah orang² yg
> tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama Sang Pencipta).
> >
> >
> > Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
> >
> >
> > Regards,...
> > DvDâ„¢
> >
> > "In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "jsx_consultant" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:40 PM
> > Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
> >
> > Tuhan memberikan KENIKMATAN SETIAP SAAT kalo anda BISA
> > MENSYUKURI apapun yg Tuhan berikan.
> >
> > Jadi untuk mencapai KENIKMATAN itu tidak perlu menunggu
> > sampai cita cita anda TERCAPAI. Kalo anda punya pikiran
> > seperti ini berarti anda MENDERITA selama cita2 anda
> > belum tercapai...
> >
> > Setiap HARI dan Setiap SAAT adalah KENIKMATAN 
> >
> > Embah merasa NIKMAT dari detik pertama embah bangun pagi
> > dengan SEHAT karena Tuhan masih memberikan KARUNIANYA yg
> > terbesar bagi manusia yaitu KEHIDUPAN.
> >
> > Tapi kalo anda mau MENGHILANGKAN KEMIKMATAN ini karena ada yg
> > anda inginkan belum tercapai, itu TERGANTUNG pribadi masing2.
> >
> > Tapi pada dasarnya Tuhan SUDAH memberikan kita KENIKMATAN dan
> > KEBAHAGIAN dari DETIK PERTAMA kita lahir sampai kita menghembuskan
> > nafas terakhir, Tinggal persepsi kita masing2 MEMANDANG INI...
> >
> > Buat kelanjutannya tanya ama Aagym aja... embah bukan ahlinya..
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, habe.inc@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Mbah,
> > > Setelah bertahun-tahun mengawal milis dan expert di bandarmologi,
> tentunya
> > "produksi uang" hanya masalah seberapa banyak...
> > > Jadi nikmatnya dimana Mbah? Selaku newbie dan suatu saat ingin bisa
> > mencapai level spt Mbah, setelah itu bingung mau apa..
> > > Trims Mbah..
> > >
> > > Habe
> > > Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
> > >
> >
> >  - - --
> >
> > + +
> > + + + + +
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Bls: [ob] Ada apa turun?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Ksatria Timur Laut
Apakah mungkin saat ini kita ada di Wave A ... mungkin Embah bisa membantu neh 
...

Hari Jum'at kmrn ITMG mematahkan Trend .. hari giliran PGAS mematahkan Trend 
... cmiiw

Regards





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Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Sen, 12 Oktober, 2009 18:42:06
Judul: Re: [ob] Ada apa turun?

  
Capital OutFlow?  Sorry, bukan maksud menakuti.
Saya ga terlalu merhatikan, barangkali ada yg perhatiin Money Flow belakangan 
ini?
mBah, Elaine, Kang Bagus, om HMin, om DE, bang ABN or rekan2 yg lain pls share.

Salam,



On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Peter Alimin  wrote:

>
>Seharian nggak pantau market..kenapa turun ya? Bumi effect kah?
>>Padahal eropa ++, oil siap2 break 73..
>>Dow fut jg ijo royo2?
>>Any comment..
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[ob] US stock futures higher as earnings loom - US stock futures follow European markets higher as earnings reports loom this week...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
  Top Stories

 
 Stock Futures in
U.S. Rise as Earnings Season Arrives- AP 

Stocks are headed for a higher market opening at the start of a busy week of
earnings. Trading on Monday is expected to be fairly light as much of the
country observes the Columbus Day holiday.

 



Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin
Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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-Original Message-
From: Thomas Frederick 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

  
 
 
 
 Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N 
shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)

Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?


From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
To: 
Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...

   
 
 
 
Dow 10,000
 
By Colin Twiggs
 October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
can be found at Terms of
Use  . 
We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary 
correction. 
In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
The Frontline   
highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the 
University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his 
book Monetary
Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 , Bernholz 
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation 
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when 
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such as 
stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
that inflationary fears are growing. 
Commodities 
 
Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a 
primary advance. 
 Baltic Dry Index 
The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
 CRB Commodities Index 
* Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
USA 
 
Dow Jones Industrial Average 
 
The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. 
In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure 
of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary 
down-trend. 
 Dow Jones Industrial Average 
* Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000  
  





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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
pantes si om arto blg bum2 k 4 k






From: Peter Alimin  
To: OB  
Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 8:04:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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-Original Message-
From: Thomas Frederick 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

  



Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N shoulder 
pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)

Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?


From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
To: 
Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...

  



Dow 10,000

By Colin Twiggs
October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
can be found at Terms of
Use  . 
We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary 
correction. 
In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
The Frontline   
highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the 
University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his 
book Monetary
Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 , Bernholz 
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation 
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when 
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such as 
stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
that inflationary fears are growing. 
Commodities 

Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a 
primary advance. 
Baltic Dry Index 
The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
CRB Commodities Index 
* Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
USA 

Dow Jones Industrial Average 

The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. 
In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure 
of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary 
down-trend. 
Dow Jones Industrial Average 
* Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000  





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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Ki Bango Tongtong
Full stok ya pak.hehe :)
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-Original Message-
From: "Peter Alimin " 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:04:18 
To: OB
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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-Original Message-
From: Thomas Frederick 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

  
 
 
 
 Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N 
shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)

Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?


From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
To: 
Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...

   
 
 
 
Dow 10,000
 
By Colin Twiggs
 October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
can be found at Terms of
Use  . 
We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary 
correction. 
In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
The Frontline   
highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the 
University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his 
book Monetary
Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 , Bernholz 
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation 
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when 
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such as 
stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
that inflationary fears are growing. 
Commodities 
 
Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a 
primary advance. 
 Baltic Dry Index 
The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
 CRB Commodities Index 
* Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
USA 
 
Dow Jones Industrial Average 
 
The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. 
In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure 
of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary 
down-trend. 
 Dow Jones Industrial Average 
* Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000  
  





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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik katrin
Ada analisa nya gak pak ? Ini BD lagi contra rian, atau keseret Bumi, atau 
akumulasi, atau fund out flow ya ?
Oil segitu ihsg malah nyilem.. :(

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From: "Peter Alimin " 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:04:18 
To: OB
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

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From: Thomas Frederick 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

  
 
 
 
 Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N 
shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)

Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?


From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
To: 
Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...

   
 
 
 
Dow 10,000
 
By Colin Twiggs
 October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
can be found at Terms of
Use  . 
We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary 
correction. 
In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
The Frontline   
highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the 
University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his 
book Monetary
Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 , Bernholz 
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation 
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when 
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such as 
stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
that inflationary fears are growing. 
Commodities 
 
Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a 
primary advance. 
 Baltic Dry Index 
The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
 CRB Commodities Index 
* Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
USA 
 
Dow Jones Industrial Average 
 
The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. 
In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure 
of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary 
down-trend. 
 Dow Jones Industrial Average 
* Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000  
  





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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin
Justru itu sy td ga pantau market..
Ngerasa aneh bgt..oil udh di landasan koq malah turun ihsg..
Stock lain tadi mungkin keseret bumi ya? Besok yg kenceng aja naiknya..
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From: katrin 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:09:47 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Ada analisa nya gak pak ? Ini BD lagi contra rian, atau keseret Bumi, atau 
akumulasi, atau fund out flow ya ?
 Oil segitu ihsg malah nyilem.. :(
 
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 From: "Peter Alimin " 
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:04:18 
 To: OB
 Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Frederick 
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
 To: 
 Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
 
   
  
  
  
  Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N 
shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)
 
 Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?
 
 
 From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
 To: 
 Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
 
    
  
  
  
 Dow 10,000
  
 By Colin Twiggs
  October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
 These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
can be found at Terms of
 Use  > . 
 We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary 
correction. 
 In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
 The Frontline  >  highlights 
recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the University of 
Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his book Monetary
 Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 > , Bernholz 
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation 
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when 
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
 US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such as 
stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
that inflationary fears are growing. 
 Commodities 
  
 Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a 
primary advance. 
  Baltic Dry Index 
 The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
  CRB Commodities Index 
 * Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
 USA 
  
 Dow Jones Industrial Average 
  
 The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. 
In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure 
of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary 
down-trend. 
  Dow Jones Industrial Average 
 * Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik anru . sing

Uang banyak masuk RI tp di gak di saham, hanya instrumen lain kayak yg dibilang 
Elaine?


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From: "Peter Alimin " 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:13:56 
To: OB
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Justru itu sy td ga pantau market..
Ngerasa aneh bgt..oil udh di landasan koq malah turun ihsg..
Stock lain tadi mungkin keseret bumi ya? Besok yg kenceng aja naiknya..
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-Original Message-
From: katrin 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:09:47 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Ada analisa nya gak pak ? Ini BD lagi contra rian, atau keseret Bumi, atau 
akumulasi, atau fund out flow ya ?
 Oil segitu ihsg malah nyilem.. :(
 
 -Original Message-
 From: "Peter Alimin " 
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:04:18 
 To: OB
 Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
 
 Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Frederick 
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
 To: 
 Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
 
   
  
  
  
  Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N 
shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)
 
 Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?
 
 
 From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
 To: 
 Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
 
    
  
  
  
 Dow 10,000
  
 By Colin Twiggs
  October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
 These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
can be found at Terms of
 Use  > . 
 We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary 
correction. 
 In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
 The Frontline  >  highlights 
recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the University of 
Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his book Monetary
 Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 > , Bernholz 
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation 
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when 
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
 US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such as 
stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
that inflationary fears are growing. 
 Commodities 
  
 Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a 
primary advance. 
  Baltic Dry Index 
 The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
  CRB Commodities Index 
 * Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
 USA 
  
 Dow Jones Industrial Average 
  
 The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. 
In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure 
of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary 
down-trend. 
  Dow Jones Industrial Average 
 * Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
Yup, bisa jadi Capital Outflow.

kalau ada Capital Outflow, tapi diimbangi dengan Capital Inflow dengan
selisih volume yg tidak terlalu besar, seharus-nya IDX masih aman.
Tapi kalau defisit capital flow-nya banyak, ya siap2 aja koreksi.

Bukan nakut2in sih, cuma mengingatan aja untuk siap2.
Lagian kalo IDX koreksi, ya wajarlah. Ya kan?

Don't affraid, be prepared.



On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:09 PM, katrin  wrote:

> Ada analisa nya gak pak ? Ini BD lagi contra rian, atau keseret Bumi, atau
> akumulasi, atau fund out flow ya ?
> Oil segitu ihsg malah nyilem.. :(
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Peter Alimin " 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:04:18
> To: OB
> Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
> Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Frederick 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
>
>
>  Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N
> shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)
>
> Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?
> 
>
> From:  "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
>
>
> Dow 10,000
>
> By Colin Twiggs
>  October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
> should not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> conditions can be found at Terms of
> Use  .
> We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
> confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> secondary correction.
> In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
> From
> The Frontline 
>  highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the
> University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his
> book Monetary
> Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships <
> http://astore.amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785> , Bernholz
> analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years.
> All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money
> creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs
> when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures.
> US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010,
> a clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation
> occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such
> as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold
> indicates that inflationary fears are growing.
> Commodities
>
> Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk
> commodity shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and
> resources stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal
> the start of a primary advance.
>  Baltic Dry Index
> The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to
> test 270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below
> 247 is now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend.
>  CRB Commodities Index
> * Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300
> USA
>
> Dow Jones Industrial Average
>
> The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below
> 9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would
> signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still
> shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a
> correction. In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of
> 12000*; failure of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to
> a primary down-trend.
>  Dow Jones Industrial Average
> * Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000
>
>
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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik EB™
Udah price in kali boss jadi gak ngaruh lagi sama sentimen DOW

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:13:56 
To: OB
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Justru itu sy td ga pantau market..
Ngerasa aneh bgt..oil udh di landasan koq malah turun ihsg..
Stock lain tadi mungkin keseret bumi ya? Besok yg kenceng aja naiknya..
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-Original Message-
From: katrin 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:09:47 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Ada analisa nya gak pak ? Ini BD lagi contra rian, atau keseret Bumi, atau 
akumulasi, atau fund out flow ya ?
 Oil segitu ihsg malah nyilem.. :(
 
 -Original Message-
 From: "Peter Alimin " 
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:04:18 
 To: OB
 Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
 
 Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Frederick 
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
 To: 
 Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
 
   
  
  
  
  Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N 
shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)
 
 Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?
 
 
 From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
 To: 
 Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
 
    
  
  
  
 Dow 10,000
  
 By Colin Twiggs
  October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
 These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
can be found at Terms of
 Use  > . 
 We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary 
correction. 
 In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
 The Frontline  >  highlights 
recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the University of 
Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his book Monetary
 Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 > , Bernholz 
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation 
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when 
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
 US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such as 
stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
that inflationary fears are growing. 
 Commodities 
  
 Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a 
primary advance. 
  Baltic Dry Index 
 The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
  CRB Commodities Index 
 * Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
 USA 
  
 Dow Jones Industrial Average 
  
 The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. 
In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure 
of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary 
down-trend. 
  Dow Jones Industrial Average 
 * Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
sementara ga ngefek tp kl entar mlm dow 1 bsk jkt jg ikut kale





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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:13:56 
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Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Justru itu sy td ga pantau market..
Ngerasa aneh bgt..oil udh di landasan koq malah turun ihsg..
Stock lain tadi mungkin keseret bumi ya? Besok yg kenceng aja naiknya..
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-Original Message-
From: katrin 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:09:47 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Ada analisa nya gak pak ? Ini BD lagi contra rian, atau keseret Bumi, atau 
akumulasi, atau fund out flow ya ?
Oil segitu ihsg malah nyilem.. :(

-Original Message-
From: "Peter Alimin " 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:04:18 
To: OB
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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-Original Message-
From: Thomas Frederick 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

  
 
 
 
 Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N 
shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)

Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?


From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
To: 
Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...

   
 
 
 
Dow 10,000
 
By Colin Twiggs
 October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
can be found at Terms of
Use  > . 
We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary 
correction. 
In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
The Frontline  >  highlights 
recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the University of 
Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his book Monetary
Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 > , Bernholz 
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation 
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when 
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such as 
stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
that inflationary fears are growing. 
Commodities 
 
Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a 
primary advance. 
 Baltic Dry Index 
The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
 CRB Commodities Index 
* Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
USA 
 
Dow Jones Industrial Average 
 
The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. 
In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure 
of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary 
down-trend. 
 Dow Jones Industrial Average 
* Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000 





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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
^djuscl 315 breakout yea





From: "inpestorpembela...@gmail.com" 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 8:39:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

   
Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak salah 
Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar kembali ke 
lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
Just be prepare for the worst.

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From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
To: 
Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
  
Dow
10,000
By Colin Twiggs
October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
These
extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should not be
interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions can be
found at Terms of
Use. 
We remain
in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The Dow is also
testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and ASX 200 are
testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a bull market,
while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary correction. 
In the
long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
The Frontline highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of
Economics at the University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of
hyper-inflation. In his book Monetary
Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships, Bernholz
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years.
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
US budget deficits of 40 per
cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a clear warning despite the
current credit contraction. If hyper-inflationoccurs, traders would want to be 
short on bonds and
long on real assets such as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent
surge in gold indicates that inflationary fears are growing. 
Commodities 
Baltic Dry
Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity shipping is
recovering — a positive sign for commodity prices and resources stocks.
Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a primary
advance. 
The RJ/CRB
Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 270;
breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is now
unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
*
Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300
USA 
Dow Jones Industrial Average 
The Dow
found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 9500 would
indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would signal
another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still shows a
bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. In the
long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure of
support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary down-trend. 
*
Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000
   


  

Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik tjetjun

numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US,  kalau  terjadi 
hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah kayaknya 
saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik akan runtuh, 
jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data bagaimana 
kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu ? 
biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang luar 
biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.

thks dan salam atas bantuannya


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
>
> Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak salah 
> Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar kembali ke 
> lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> Just be prepare for the worst.
> 
> Disclaimer on 
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> 
> 
> Dow 10,000
> 
> 
> By Colin Twiggs
> October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> 
> These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should
> not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> conditions can be found at Terms of
>   Use. 
> 
> We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
> confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> secondary correction. 
> 
> In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
>   The Frontline
> highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the
> University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his
> book Monetary 
> Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last
> 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through
> money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation
> occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
> 
> US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a
> clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation
> occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such
> as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold
> indicates that inflationary fears are growing. 
> 
> 
> Commodities 
> 
> 
> Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk
> commodity shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and
> resources stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal
> the start of a primary advance. 
> 
> Baltic Dry Index
> 
> The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to
> test 270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below
> 247 is now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
> 
> CRB Commodities Index
> 
> * Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300
> 
> 
> USA 
> 
> 
> Dow Jones Industrial Average 
> 
> 
> The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below
> 9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would
> signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still
> shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a
> correction. In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of
> 12000*; failure of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to
> a primary down-trend. 
> 
> Dow Jones Industrial Average
> 
> * Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000
>




Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik inpestorpembelajar
Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek tinggi 
untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi  not good buat pasar 
modal.

Salam
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-Original Message-
From: "tjetjun" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...


numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US,  kalau  terjadi 
hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah kayaknya 
saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik akan runtuh, 
jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data bagaimana 
kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu ? 
biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang luar 
biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.

thks dan salam atas bantuannya


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
>
> Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak salah 
> Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar kembali ke 
> lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> Just be prepare for the worst.
> 
> Disclaimer on 
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> 
> 
> Dow 10,000
> 
> 
> By Colin Twiggs
> October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> 
> These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should
> not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> conditions can be found at Terms of
>   Use. 
> 
> We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
> confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> secondary correction. 
> 
> In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
>   The Frontline
> highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the
> University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his
> book Monetary 
> Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last
> 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through
> money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation
> occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
> 
> US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a
> clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation
> occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such
> as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold
> indicates that inflationary fears are growing. 
> 
> 
> Commodities 
> 
> 
> Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk
> commodity shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and
> resources stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal
> the start of a primary advance. 
> 
> Baltic Dry Index
> 
> The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to
> test 270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below
> 247 is now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
> 
> CRB Commodities Index
> 
> * Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300
> 
> 
> USA 
> 
> 
> Dow Jones Industrial Average 
> 
> 
> The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below
> 9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would
> signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still
> shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a
> correction. In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of
> 12000*; failure of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to
> a primary down-trend. 
> 
> Dow Jones Industrial Average
> 
> * Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000
>





Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik tjetjun
bisa tau ga, kapan inflasi besar2an di amrik yang terakhir kali ? mau check 
keadaan saham waktu itu

salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
>
> Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek 
> tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi  not good buat 
> pasar modal.
> 
> Salam
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "tjetjun" 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> 
> 
> numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US,  kalau  terjadi 
> hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah kayaknya 
> saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik akan runtuh, 
> jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
> menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data bagaimana 
> kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu ? 
> biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang luar 
> biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.
> 
> thks dan salam atas bantuannya
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, inpestorpembelajar@ wrote:
> >
> > Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak salah 
> > Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar kembali 
> > ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> > Just be prepare for the worst.
> > 
> > Disclaimer on 
> > 
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 
> > To: 
> > Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> > 
> > 
> > Dow 10,000
> > 
> > 
> > By Colin Twiggs
> > October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> > 
> > These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should
> > not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> > conditions can be found at Terms of
> >   Use. 
> > 
> > We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> > The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> > 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
> > confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> > secondary correction. 
> > 
> > In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
> >   The Frontline
> > highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the
> > University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his
> > book Monetary 
> > Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> > Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last
> > 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through
> > money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation
> > occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
> > 
> > US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a
> > clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation
> > occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such
> > as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold
> > indicates that inflationary fears are growing. 
> > 
> > 
> > Commodities 
> > 
> > 
> > Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk
> > commodity shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and
> > resources stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal
> > the start of a primary advance. 
> > 
> > Baltic Dry Index
> > 
> > The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to
> > test 270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below
> > 247 is now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
> > 
> > CRB Commodities Index
> > 
> > * Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300
> > 
> > 
> > USA 
> > 
> > 
> > Dow Jones Industrial Average 
> > 
> > 
> > The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below
> > 9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would
> > signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still
> > shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a
> > correction. In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of
> > 12000*; failure of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to
> > a primary down-trend. 
> > 
> > Dow Jones Industrial Average
> > 
> > * Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000
> >
>




[ob] coal index

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Franky chandra
Numpang nanya donk coal index di bloomberg codenya apa yah? Thanx
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-Original Message-
From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:31:08 
To: 
Subject: [ob] US stock futures higher as earnings loom - US stock futures 
follow European markets higher as earnings reports loom this week...

  Top Stories

 
 Stock Futures in
U.S. Rise as Earnings Season Arrives- AP 

Stocks are headed for a higher market opening at the start of a busy week of
earnings. Trading on Monday is expected to be fairly light as much of the
country observes the Columbus Day holiday.

 




Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik edie sinthung
yahoo sg saya juga kacau. semua milis tidak bisa masuk.So.. OB saya pindahin. 
Bisa pake alternate email kok

--- On Mon, 10/12/09, charles_3983  wrote:


From: charles_3983 
Subject: Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .RE: Milis OB
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 4:13 PM


  



Bozz ga selesai2 ngerjain trader ni...

BUMI udah mau bikin double bottom... ntar kalo bozz masih blm puas bakal 
dibikin triple bottom... masih blm puas lagi jadi quadruple bottom, 
quintuple... dst. hahahah... dikocok2 terus ampe bozz puas :))

canda.com

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"  
wrote:
>
> Berarti orang Indonesia yg banyak duitnya di Singapore
> seperti pak Boyz belon selesai dikerjainnya. .. hehehe...
> 
> BUMI aja nyentuh 2800 lagi...
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "m4573rs"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Error-nya belum selesai kayaknya, mBah.
> > 
> > tetep email yg di yahoo.com.sg belum terima posting dari OB. 
> > 
> > Ini ane reply dari web yahoogroups.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thx atas bantuan rekan2. :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Salam,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dholiaq  wrote:
> > >
> > > testing pak boyz gimane, terima ndak
> > >
> > >
> > > 2009/10/12 boyz® m4573rs@
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > test...
> > > > Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.
> > > >
> > > > test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga
> > postingan
> > > > dari OB :p
> > > >
> > > > Salam,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2009/10/12 Embah jsx-consultant@
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mau tanya: Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami
> > member OB
> > > >> dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mohon konfirmasinya ...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofakmi@ ]
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> > > >> To: Jsx-consultant@
> > > >> Subject: Milis OB
> > > >>
> > > >> Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg
> > > >> terjadi
> > > >> ya??? Pls advise.
> > > >> Enerchi BlackBerryR
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  - - --
> > > >>
> > > >> + +
> > > >> + + + + +
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> > > >> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > >> + + + + +
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

















  

Re: [ob] coal index

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik er1ck
CLSPAUNE:IND

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Franky chandra
wrote:

>
>
> Numpang nanya donk coal index di bloomberg codenya apa yah? Thanx
>
> Powered by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!!
> --
>
>


Bls: [ob] Re: DJIA for today - Next --> 20 EMA

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik tirta858
Zoom zoom zoom, you should know where we are heading!!

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5749/djia.gif





--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta...@... wrote:
>
> Zoom zoom zoom. houston we have a bounce of 50 EMA
> 
> http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5751/bigchart.gif
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "EdwinKdr"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Untuk sementara 50 EMA holding but can it breaks 20 EMA and the
> > infamous RSI 50. Let's see tonite.
> > >
> > >  http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5500/bigcharts.gif
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Monggo dilanjutkan Pak  [B-)]
> > 
> > DJI-6 Month - Yahoo Finance
> >  > Ng/s1600-h/DJI+-+W4+-+Daily+6+Month.PNG>
> > 
> > Kalo melihat Chart-nya Embah, sptnya...mental lagi ya  [:-/]
> > 
> > http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwldjiazz.png
> > 
> > 
> > Menunggu gerakan selanjutnya  [:">]
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > Good Luck.
> > 
> > 
> > Tks
> > 
> > Regards
> >
>




Re: [ob] IHSG in DEAD CROSS MACD Weekly

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Syat
Tenang aja pak kalau ma5 oleh BD (biji double) mau ditiup mah pasti ganti arah. 
Judulnya malam ini 'Energy shares lead stocks higher to 10k' , jadi yg pegang 
bum bum dan tam tam  saya ikut doakan besok bisa tersenyum agar nular ke saham 
lainnya, udah 4 hari diturunin terus, ah  teganya teganya ...

Gute nacht dulu and mimpi inah eh indah maksute  ;)

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-Original Message-
From: Thomas Frederick 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:29:07 
To: 
Subject: [ob] IHSG in DEAD CROSS MACD Weekly

saya post gambar zoom in habis MACD weekly IDX yang dengan angka penutupan sore 
ini sudah Dead Cross... jadi andai minggu ini closing di bawah angka 2456, 
artinya menurut penalaran saya, bull sudah harus istirahat dulu.
 
Nahh... tapi para pakar TA harusnya udah tahu dong ya, angka berapa yang di 
butuhkan agar dead cross ini "digagalkan" atau di angka berapa kita bisa 
menghambat bear, atau bahkan bisa menemukan di angka berapa IHSG harus di break 
supaya MACD weekly chart tidak dead cross, jadi bull terus???

 
Untuk BUMI, MA5 udah turun ke 2880. Mungkinkah bozz emang sengaja menurunkan 
BUMI agar hari MA5 menurun, jadi besok hajar kanan dikit si BUM udah ke area 
"safe"??
 
Kalo emang skenarionya bener, selamat yang ambil bumi hari ini... damn gw ngga 
ngambil


Thank You! 
 
ThomaS FredericK


  


[ob] Workshop “Technique & Psychology Trading ” 24 Ok tober 2009

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
Dear All,

Selain Technical Analysis, Psikologi trading dan Managemen Resiko
merupakan kunci utama lainnya dalam mencapai keberhasilan dalam
melakukan aktifitas trading. Dengan memahami psikologi trading, trader
akan mampu memaksimalkan keuntungan ketika keputusan yang diambil
benar dan meminimalisasi kerugian ketika salah.

Kami akan mengadakan pelatihan
“ Technique & Psychology Trading ”

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realistis dalam melakukan aktifitas trading, serta mampu menerapkan
teknik-teknik money management untuk mengurangi resiko
investasi/trading.

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Waktu :
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Tempat:
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[ob] BDMN dan CTRP

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Landlord The
Mbah & Para Sesepuh,

Bisa tolong ulas mengenai BDMN dan CTRP? Kenapa nih saham pada turun
teru?


Tks sebelumnya ..
LL.


Re: [ob] Workshop “Technique & Psychology Trading ” 24 Oktober 2009

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik dho
Pak Hans, untuk modul yg ini ada rencana di sby ?
Kalo ada kapan jadualnya?

Makasih


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tober 2009

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melakukan aktifitas trading. Dengan memahami psikologi trading, trader
akan mampu memaksimalkan keuntungan ketika keputusan yang diambil
benar dan meminimalisasi kerugian ketika salah.

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“ Technique & Psychology Trading ”

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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Franky chandra
Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu 
hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap 
fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the 
time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed usually 
know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to control it, they 
can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so the market still 
steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot of factors in that 
case. Thanx
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From: inpestorpembela...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek tinggi 
untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi  not good buat pasar 
modal.

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-Original Message-
From: "tjetjun" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...


numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US,  kalau  terjadi 
hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah kayaknya 
saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik akan runtuh, 
jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data bagaimana 
kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu ? 
biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang luar 
biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.

thks dan salam atas bantuannya


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> Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak salah 
> Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar kembali ke 
> lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> Just be prepare for the worst.
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> 
> 
> Dow 10,000
> 
> 
> By Colin Twiggs
> October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> 
> These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should
> not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> conditions can be found at Terms of
>   Use. 
> 
> We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
> confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> secondary correction. 
> 
> In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
>   The Frontline
> highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the
> University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his
> book Monetary 
> Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last
> 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through
> money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation
> occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
> 
> US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a
> clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation
> occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such
> as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold
> indicates that inflationary fears are growing. 
> 
> 
> Commodities 
> 
> 
> Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk
> commodity shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and
> resources stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal
> the start of a primary advance. 
> 
> Baltic Dry Index
> 
> The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to
> test 270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below
> 247 is now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
> 
> CRB Commodities Index
> 
> * Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300
> 
> 
> USA 
> 
> 
> Dow Jones Industrial Average 
> 
> 
> The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below
> 9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would
> signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still
> shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a
> cor

Re: [ob] coal index

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Franky chandra
Thanx pak erick
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From: er1ck 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:23:50 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] coal index

CLSPAUNE:IND

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Franky chandra
wrote:

>
>
> Numpang nanya donk coal index di bloomberg codenya apa yah? Thanx
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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik artomoro9

sst... 
jangan berisik...



regards,

A9
(bumi on theway..!)

--- Pada Sen, 12/10/09, Andre Andre  menulis:

Dari: Andre Andre 
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Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 12 Oktober, 2009, 8:07 PM

















pantes si om arto blg bum2 k 4 k


From: Peter Alimin  
To: OB  
Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 8:04:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...


Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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-Original Message-
From: Thomas Frederick 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

  
 
 
 
 Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N 
shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)

Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?


From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
To: 
Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...

   
 
 
 
Dow 10,000
 
By Colin Twiggs
 October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
can be found at Terms of
Use  . 
We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary correction.
 
In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
The Frontline   
highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the 
University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his 
book Monetary
Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 , Bernholz 
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation 
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when 
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures.
 
US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such as 
stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
that inflationary fears are growing. 
Commodities 
 
Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a 
primary advance. 
 Baltic Dry Index 
The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
 CRB Commodities Index 
* Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
USA
 
 
Dow Jones Industrial Average 
 
The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. 
In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure 
of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary 
down-trend. 
 Dow Jones Industrial Average 
* Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000                  





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2009-10-12 Terurut Topik AB
mksdnya kl mau nyopet ya nyopet aja tp jgn berisik gitu ya om jend...

ab





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sst... 
jangan berisik...



regards,
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>Dari: Andre Andre 
>Judul: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>Tanggal: Senin, 12 Oktober, 2009, 8:07 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>pantes si om arto blg bum2 k 4 k
>
>
>
>
>

From: Peter Alimin 
>To: OB 
>Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 8:04:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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>-Original Message-
>From: Thomas Frederick 
>Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
>To: 
>Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>  
>
>
>
>Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N 
>shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)
>
>Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?
> 
>
>From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
>Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
>To: 
>Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>  
>
>
>
>Dow 10,000
>
>By Colin Twiggs
>October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
>These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
>not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
>can be found at Terms of
>Use  . 
>We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
>Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
>ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
>bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary 
>correction. 
>In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
>The Frontline   
>highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the 
>University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his 
>book Monetary
>Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
> , Bernholz 
>analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
>All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money 
>creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs 
>when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
>US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
>clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
>occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such 
>as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
>that inflationary fears are growing. 
>Commodities 
>
>Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
>shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
>stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of 
>a primary advance. 
>Baltic Dry Index 
>The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
>270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
>now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
>CRB Commodities Index 
>* Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
>USA 
>
>Dow Jones Industrial Average 
>
>The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
>9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
>signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
>shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a 
>correction. In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 
>12000*; failure of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a 
>primary down-trend. 
>Dow Jones Industrial Average 
>* Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000                
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[ob] recession is over

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik swan silo
Survey of top economists find most believe recession is over
* By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer 
* On 10:28 am EDT, Monday October 12, 2009
* Buzz up! 7 
* Print
More
than 80% of top economists believe that the recession that started
almost two years ago is finally over. But most don't expect meaningful
improvement in jobs, credit or housing for months to come.
That's
according to a survey released Monday by the National Association for
Business Economics (NABE). The group asked 43 top economists last month
if they believe the battered U.S. economy has pulled out of the worst
U.S. downturn since World War II. Those surveyed include economists
from leading Wall Street firms and major corporations, as well as from
highly respected universities and research firms.
Thirty-five
respondents, or 81%, believe the recovery has begun. Only four, or 9%,
believe the economy is still in a recession. The other four say they're
uncertain.
Economists in the survey forecast that the U.S.
economy grew at an annual rate of 3% in the three months that ended in
September, though the official reading of gross domestic product won't
be out for weeks.
And all of the economists surveyed expect the
recovery to be slow and painful, leaving many people and businesses
feeling the effects of the downturn for years to come.
The only
organization that can officially declare the beginning or the end of a
recession is the National Bureau of Economic Research. But that group
doesn't make any sort of declaration until months after the fact, in
order to take into account final readings of various economic measures
such as employment, income and industrial production. For example, the
NBER didn't declare that the recent recession had begun in December
2007 until a full year after the fact.
Lingering weakness
The
NABE survey results echo comments made by many other prominent
economists who have recently said they think the economy hit bottom at
some point this summer.
Most notably, a recent statement from the Federal Reserve declared that 
economic readings "suggest economic activity has picked up following its severe 
downturn."
Still,
the NABE survey found that economists are forecasting lingering
weakness in the labor and housing markets, and that the tight credit
markets will continue to be a drag on economic growth into next year.
Unemployment,
which was at a 26-year high of 9.8% in September, is forecast to hit
10% during the last three months of this year, and stay there through
the first quarter of 2010. By the end of next year, it's only expected
to fall back down to 9.5%.
About 54% of those surveyed don't
expect the economy to regain the jobs it lost during the recession
until 2012, while another 38% expect that to take even longer. Just
three of the economists that the NABE spoke to expect these jobs to
come back in 2010 or 2011.
And many don't think the worst is over
yet for housing either. About a third of economists believe that home
prices won't bottom out until early 2010 or later, while a quarter of
them believe the low will come in the fourth quarter.
Half of
those surveyed expect the financial markets to continue to be a drag on
the economy until next year, while 30% of them said that trend could
continue into 2011.The NABE last surveyed economists in May, and
they were far less optimistic at the time. Only 18% of them thought the
economy would recover in the last quarter of 2009, while 7% saw a
turnaround sometime in 2010


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Re: [ob] TAL OB Sepi!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik sahamindo
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From: artomoro9 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:21:16 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...?


sst... 
jangan berisik...



regards,

A9
(bumi on theway..!)

--- Pada Sen, 12/10/09, Andre Andre  menulis:

Dari: Andre Andre 
Judul: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 12 Oktober, 2009, 8:07 PM

















pantes si om arto blg bum2 k 4 k


From: Peter Alimin  
To: OB  
Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 8:04:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...


Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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-Original Message-
From: Thomas Frederick 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

  
 
 
 
 Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N 
shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)

Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?


From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
To: 
Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...

   
 
 
 
Dow 10,000
 
By Colin Twiggs
 October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) 
These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should 
not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions 
can be found at Terms of
Use  . 
We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The 
Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and 
ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a 
bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary correction.
 
In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From
The Frontline   
highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the 
University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his 
book Monetary
Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 , Bernholz 
analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. 
All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation 
and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when 
government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures.
 
US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a 
clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation 
occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such as 
stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold indicates 
that inflationary fears are growing. 
Commodities 
 
Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk commodity 
shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and resources 
stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal the start of a 
primary advance. 
 Baltic Dry Index 
The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to test 
270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below 247 is 
now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. 
 CRB Commodities Index 
* Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 
USA
 
 
Dow Jones Industrial Average 
 
The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below 
9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would 
signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still 
shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a correction. 
In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of 12000*; failure 
of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to a primary 
down-trend. 
 Dow Jones Industrial Average 
* Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000                  





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[ob] Halo Pak Win, MEDC gimana ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Hubert Nice
 
 
 
Pak Win,
 
Apa MEDC layak dicollect lagi ?
 
Terima kasih !


  

Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik David Lau
Takut akan Tuhan, akan membuat orang hidup di jalan Tuhan.
Hidup di jalan Tuhan sdh otomatis pasti akan membuat kualitas spiritual 
seseorang menjadi semakin baik.
Jika hal itu tidak membuat kualitas spiritualnya menjadi lebih baik, sdh tentu 
dia tidak hidup di jalan Tuhan.

Bagaimana itu hidup di jalan Tuhan? saya rasa tidak perlu dijelaskan lagi.

 
Regards,...
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From: iching_prediction 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 6:04:43 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

  
taat krn takut nga akan meningkatkan spritual seseorang

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Lau  wrote:
>
> Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti hanyalah orang² yg 
> tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama Sang Pencipta).
> 
> 
> Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
> 
> 
> Regards,...
> DvDâ„¢
> 
> "In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
>  _ _ __
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:40 PM
> Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
> 
> Tuhan memberikan KENIKMATAN SETIAP SAAT kalo anda BISA
> MENSYUKURI apapun yg Tuhan berikan.
> 
> Jadi untuk mencapai KENIKMATAN itu tidak perlu menunggu
> sampai cita cita anda TERCAPAI. Kalo anda punya pikiran
> seperti ini berarti anda MENDERITA selama cita2 anda
> belum tercapai...
> 
> Setiap HARI dan Setiap SAAT adalah KENIKMATAN 
> 
> Embah merasa NIKMAT dari detik pertama embah bangun pagi
> dengan SEHAT karena Tuhan masih memberikan KARUNIANYA yg
> terbesar bagi manusia yaitu KEHIDUPAN.
> 
> Tapi kalo anda mau MENGHILANGKAN KEMIKMATAN ini karena ada yg
> anda inginkan belum tercapai, itu TERGANTUNG pribadi masing2.
> 
> Tapi pada dasarnya Tuhan SUDAH memberikan kita KENIKMATAN dan
> KEBAHAGIAN dari DETIK PERTAMA kita lahir sampai kita menghembuskan
> nafas terakhir, Tinggal persepsi kita masing2 MEMANDANG INI...
> 
> Buat kelanjutannya tanya ama Aagym aja... embah bukan ahlinya..
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, habe.inc@ wrote:
> >
> > Mbah,
> > Setelah bertahun-tahun mengawal milis dan expert di bandarmologi, tentunya
> "produksi uang" hanya masalah seberapa banyak...
> > Jadi nikmatnya dimana Mbah? Selaku newbie dan suatu saat ingin bisa
> mencapai level spt Mbah, setelah itu bingung mau apa..
> > Trims Mbah..
> >
> > Habe
> > Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
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> 
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Re: [ob] Halo Pak Win, MEDC gimana ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Win
trend masih ok ya, tapi belum ada tanda2 akan ngebut.

2009/10/12 Hubert Nice 

>
>
>
>
>
> Pak Win,
>
> Apa MEDC layak dicollect lagi ?
>
> Terima kasih !
>
>  
>


[ob] gak tereima ob

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Abah
help dong. sudah bbrp minggu sy gak terima ob. sy check di yahoogroups 
gak masalah. 


Re: [ob] Halo Pak Win, MEDC gimana ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Hubert Nice
 
 
Terima kasih Pak Win, jadi masih belum uptrend.

--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Win  wrote:


From: Win 
Subject: Re: [ob] Halo Pak Win, MEDC gimana ?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 3:00 PM


  



trend masih ok ya, tapi belum ada tanda2 akan ngebut.



2009/10/12 Hubert Nice 


  








 
 
 
Pak Win,
 
Apa MEDC layak dicollect lagi ?
 
Terima kasih !



















  

[ob] IHSG lagi sakit

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik wintama
Beberapa saham bikin lower low dan lower high. Tanda-tanda Big Correction
wave? Terjadi juga price divergence. 

So, out dulu deh sampe ada konfirmasi bull lagi. Pake 20% aja.

 

Salam

wintama



RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
YUP - lihat bottom-line-nya 'aja, yaitu earnings seasons dr fundamental
perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya - hiperinflasi di sini bisa 'aja berarti USD
masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya - dstnya. 

 

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Franky chandra
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu
hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap
fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the
time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed
usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to
control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so
the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot
of factors in that case. Thanx

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From: inpestorpembela...@gmail.com 

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +

To: 

Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

 

Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek
tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat
pasar modal.

Salam

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From: "tjetjun"  

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 -

To: 

Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

 

  


numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi
hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah
kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik
akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data bagaimana
kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu ?
biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang
luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.

thks dan salam atas bantuannya

--- In obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups.com, inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
>
> Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> Just be prepare for the worst.
> 
> Disclaimer on 
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 
> To: mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> 
> 
> Dow 10,000
> 
> 
> By Colin Twiggs
> October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> 
> These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
should
> not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> conditions can be found at Terms of
> 
lecharts.com/legal_vizhon/terms_of_use.htm> Use. 
> 
> We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
> confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> secondary correction. 
> 
> In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
From
> 
ethoughts.com/article.asp?id=mwo100909> The Frontline
> highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
the
> University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In
his
> book Monetary 
amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785>
> Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the
last
> 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through
> money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation
> occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
> 
> US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010,
a
> clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation
> occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets
such
> as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold
> indicates that inflationary fears are growing. 
> 
> 
> Commodities 
> 
> 
> Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk
> commodity shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices
and
> resources stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal
> the start of a primary advance. 
> 

[ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik EdwinKdr

Mungkin sekedar menengahi saja  [:)]  CMIIW

Segala sesuatu itu dapat dilihat dari buahnya

Kalo kata Pak Mario Teguh "bahkan keburukan sekalipun jika itu membuat
kita menjadi baik, itu adalah kebaikan"  [:D]

Jadi ketakutan itu adalah bagian dari manusia itu sendiri, tdk bisa
dihilangkan akan tetapi bisa diatasi.

Jika ketakutan itu muncul dengan landasan atau "benih" dari YMK maka,
ketakutan kepada beliau, akan membuat kita menjauhi hal2 yg dilarang
beliau..sehingga akan mejadi bijak dan jauh dari segala mara bahaya. 
[:">]

Karena pada dasarnya Tuhan itu Maha Baik, sehingga yg disampaikan kepada
kita tdk lain adalah demi Kebaikan itu sendiri.

Jika ketakutan itu muncul dengan landasan atau "benih" dari hal yg
buruk/setan. maka ketakutan itu akan menjadi bencana.

Contoh :

KABAR ANGIN MENCIPTAKAN KELAPARAN

Pada  musim panas 1946 desas-desus tentang kelaparan melanda sebuah
provinsi di negara Amerika Latin.  Pada  hal  tanaman tumbuh  dengan 
baik, dan cuaca pun sempurna, menunggu panen raya. Tetapi karena daya
sas-sus  itu  20.000  petani  gurem meninggalkan  sawah-ladangnya  dan
lari ke kota-kota. Karena perbuatan mereka panen gagal,  ribuan  orang 
meninggal  dan isyu kelaparan terbukti nyata.


Jadi "There Is No Accident, You just need to beleive "  (- Kungfu Panda
-   )


Event itu adalah ramalan 2012  [:))]

Sekedar permisalan saja.

misal si A mempunyai kemampuan weruh saderenge winarah atau tahu sebelum
kejadian/bisa melihat masa depan.
akan tetapi secara kemanusiaan dia belom siap menerima apa yg akan
terjadi nanti kepada diri nya. dan sehingga akhirnya mengingkari takdir
- lari dari kenyataan.

Dimana setelah itu Tuhan mengembalikan keseimbangan (takdir) itu ke
dalam dirinya.
yg justru sebenarnya pengetahuan sebelum kejadian itu membuatnya
ketakutan dan jauh dari pasrah ataupun meyakini bahwa Tuhan Maha Kuasa,
yg sanggup membalikkan apapun sesuai dengan kehendak beliau.  [:">]

Maka jika seandainya saya menjadi A tsb, maka saya akan meminta kepada
YMK untuk menutup kemampuan bathin saya untuk tahu sebelum kejadian. dan
memohon Karunia untuk selalu setia dan pasrah kepada beliau YMK, apapun
keadaannya.

Sehingga takdir apapun yg sampai kepada saya adalah Baik.

There is no accident. Rancangan Tuhan adalah damai sejahtera bukan
kecelakaan.

Jadi kalo ada di karangan2 bahkan Ilmiah sekalipun yg menyatakan tahun
2012 adalah kiamat.
Sekarang pertanyaannya bisa dibalik saja.

Apakah Ilmu pengetahuan itu Tuhan yg tahu segalanya ? dan apakah orang2
yg ahli mistis yg katanya melihat hal itu ? sanggup menghalangi
kemampuan Tuhan menyelamatkan Hamba2Nya yg baik dan setia [:-/]

Who Knows ?

Tuhan itu Maha Bijak...segala sesuatu boleh jadi karena kehendak Beliau 
[:">]
Sekalipun ada banyak orang mengingkariNya, tapi beliau tetaplah ada.

Gusti iku adoh tanpa wates, cedhak tanpa senggolan
Gusti Allah iku mboten sare...  [;)]

Good Luck


Dan semoga bermanfaat, Mohon maap jika ada yg kurang berkenan.


Tks


Regards






--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, David Lau  wrote:
>
> Takut akan Tuhan, akan membuat orang hidup di jalan Tuhan.
> Hidup di jalan Tuhan sdh otomatis pasti akan membuat kualitas
spiritual seseorang menjadi semakin baik.
> Jika hal itu tidak membuat kualitas spiritualnya menjadi lebih baik,
sdh tentu dia tidak hidup di jalan Tuhan.
>
> Bagaimana itu hidup di jalan Tuhan? saya rasa tidak perlu dijelaskan
lagi.
>
>
> Regards,...
> DvD™
>
> "In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: iching_prediction iching_predict...@...
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 6:04:43 PM
> Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
>
>
> taat krn takut nga akan meningkatkan spritual seseorang
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Lau 
wrote:
> >
> > Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti
hanyalah orang² yg tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama
Sang Pencipta).
> >
> >
> > Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
> >
> >
>



Bls: [ob] Re: DJIA for today - Next --> 20 EMA

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik EdwinKdr

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta...@... wrote:
>
> Zoom zoom zoom, you should know where we are heading!!
>
>  http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5749/djia.gif


Mantap sekali Pak Tirta858  [;)]

Apakah nanti berpengaruh atau tdk thd Den BEI ?
Kata Jendral A9 sih tdk boleh berisik  [:))]

Jadi monggo dilanjutkan saja DJI-nya.



Tks

Regards


>
>
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858@ wrote:
> >
> > Zoom zoom zoom. houston we have a bounce of 50 EMA
> >
> > http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5751/bigchart.gif

> >
> >
> >
> >
>



Bls: Re: [ob] Halo Pak Win, MIRA sekalian gimana ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Ali Hasyim
pak Win, tolong gmn mira kapan mau ditarik ke atas?

Pada Sel, 13 Okt 2009 02:00 ICT Win menulis:

>trend masih ok ya, tapi belum ada tanda2 akan ngebut.
>
>2009/10/12 Hubert Nice 
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Pak Win,
>>
>> Apa MEDC layak dicollect lagi ?
>>
>> Terima kasih !
>>
>>  
>>



  
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Bls: [ob] Re: DJIA for today - Next --> 20 EMA

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik tirta858
Kalau tembus 10rb mau tak mau harusnya ada pengaruh donk ama BEI nya. Cuma 
distribution over the top nanti harus diwaspadai, caranya nanti kalau sudah 
dekat dekat di puncak sana, awasi RSI, MACD divergencenya lagi saja, mustinya 
bisa keliahatan arahnya. 



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "EdwinKdr"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858@ wrote:
> >
> > Zoom zoom zoom, you should know where we are heading!!
> >
> >  http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5749/djia.gif
> 
> 
> Mantap sekali Pak Tirta858  [;)]
> 
> Apakah nanti berpengaruh atau tdk thd Den BEI ?
> Kata Jendral A9 sih tdk boleh berisik  [:))]
> 
> Jadi monggo dilanjutkan saja DJI-nya.
> 
> 
> 
> Tks
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Zoom zoom zoom. houston we have a bounce of 50 EMA
> > >
> > > http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5751/bigchart.gif
> 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>




[ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik kyce_fg
Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much from 
you all. Nice too meet you all.
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-Original Message-
From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...

YUP - lihat bottom-line-nya 'aja, yaitu earnings seasons dr fundamental
perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya - hiperinflasi di sini bisa 'aja berarti USD
masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya - dstnya. 

 

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Franky chandra
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu
hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap
fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the
time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed
usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to
control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so
the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot
of factors in that case. Thanx

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +

To: 

Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

 

Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek
tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat
pasar modal.

Salam

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 -

To: 

Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

 

  


numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi
hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah
kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik
akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data bagaimana
kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu ?
biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang
luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.

thks dan salam atas bantuannya

--- In obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups.com, inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
>
> Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> Just be prepare for the worst.
> 
> Disclaimer on 
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerryR
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 
> To: mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> 
> 
> Dow 10,000
> 
> 
> By Colin Twiggs
> October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> 
> These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
should
> not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> conditions can be found at Terms of
> 
lecharts.com/legal_vizhon/terms_of_use.htm> Use. 
> 
> We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
> confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> secondary correction. 
> 
> In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
From
> 
ethoughts.com/article.asp?id=mwo100909> The Frontline
> highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
the
> University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In
his
> book Monetary 
amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785>
> Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the
last
> 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through
> money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation
> occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
> 
> US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010,
a
> clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation
> occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets
such
> as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold
> indicates that inflationary fears are growing. 
> 
> 
> Commodities 
>

[ob] Fw: Emailing: Makelar Suster dan PRT.xls

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Thomas Frederick

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Re: [ob] Fw: Emailing: Makelar Suster dan PRT.xls

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Thomas Frederick
MF salah posting. Kepikirannya posting dimilis. Wekeke

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Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik It's Elaine!
*Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can take
all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?]

*

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much
> from you all. Nice too meet you all.
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> --
> *From: * "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
>  YUP – lihat *bottom-line*-nya ‘aja, yaitu *earnings seasons* dr
> fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya – hiperinflasi di sini bisa ‘aja
> berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya – dstnya…
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Franky chandra
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
> Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu
> hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap
> fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the
> time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed
> usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to
> control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so
> the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot
> of factors in that case. Thanx
>
> Powered by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!!
>  --
>
> *From: *inpestorpembela...@gmail.com
>
> *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +
>
> *To: *
>
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
> Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek
> tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat
> pasar modal.
>
> Salam
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
>  --
>
> *From: *"tjetjun" 
>
> *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 -
>
> *To: *
>
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi
> hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah
> kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik
> akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
> menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data
> bagaimana kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu
> ? biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang
> luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.
>
> thks dan salam atas bantuannya
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
> >
> > Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
> salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
> kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> > Just be prepare for the worst.
> >
> > Disclaimer on
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44
> > To: >
> > Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> >
> > Dow 10,000
> >
> >
> > By Colin Twiggs
> > October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> >
> > These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
> should
> > not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> > conditions can be found at Terms of
> >  Use.
> >
> > We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> > The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> > 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout
> would
> > confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> > secondary correction.
> >
> > In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
> From
> >  The
> Frontline
> > highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
> the
> > University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In
> his
> > book Monetary <
> http://astore.amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785>
> > Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> > Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the
> last
> > 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits
> through
> > money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for
> hyper-inflation
> > occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures.
> >
> > US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and
> 2010, a
> > clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hype

[ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Halim Perdana
spiritualitas tidak sama dengan religiusitas..





From: David Lau 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 12:08:39 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

  
Takut akan Tuhan, akan membuat orang hidup di jalan Tuhan.
Hidup di jalan Tuhan sdh otomatis pasti akan membuat kualitas spiritual 
seseorang menjadi semakin baik.
Jika hal itu tidak membuat kualitas spiritualnya menjadi lebih baik, sdh tentu 
dia tidak hidup di jalan Tuhan.

Bagaimana itu hidup di jalan Tuhan? saya rasa tidak perlu dijelaskan lagi.

 
Regards,...
DvD™

"In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"







From: iching_prediction 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 6:04:43 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

  
taat krn takut nga akan meningkatkan spritual seseorang

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Lau  wrote:
>
> Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti hanyalah orang² yg 
> tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama Sang Pencipta).
> 
> 
> Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
> 
> 
> Regards,...
> DvDâ„¢
> 
> "In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
>  _ _ __
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:40 PM
> Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
> 
> Tuhan memberikan KENIKMATAN SETIAP SAAT kalo anda BISA
> MENSYUKURI apapun yg Tuhan berikan.
> 
> Jadi untuk mencapai KENIKMATAN itu tidak perlu menunggu
> sampai cita cita anda TERCAPAI. Kalo anda punya pikiran
> seperti ini berarti anda MENDERITA selama cita2 anda
> belum tercapai...
> 
> Setiap HARI dan Setiap SAAT adalah KENIKMATAN 
> 
> Embah merasa NIKMAT dari detik pertama embah bangun pagi
> dengan SEHAT karena Tuhan masih memberikan KARUNIANYA yg
> terbesar bagi manusia yaitu KEHIDUPAN.
> 
> Tapi kalo anda mau MENGHILANGKAN KEMIKMATAN ini karena ada yg
> anda inginkan belum tercapai, itu TERGANTUNG pribadi masing2.
> 
> Tapi pada dasarnya Tuhan SUDAH memberikan kita KENIKMATAN dan
> KEBAHAGIAN dari DETIK PERTAMA kita lahir sampai kita menghembuskan
> nafas terakhir, Tinggal persepsi kita masing2 MEMANDANG INI...
> 
> Buat kelanjutannya tanya ama Aagym aja... embah bukan ahlinya..
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, habe.inc@ wrote:
> >
> > Mbah,
> > Setelah bertahun-tahun mengawal milis dan expert di bandarmologi, tentunya
> "produksi uang" hanya masalah seberapa banyak...
> > Jadi nikmatnya dimana Mbah? Selaku newbie dan suatu saat ingin bisa
> mencapai level spt Mbah, setelah itu bingung mau apa..
> > Trims Mbah..
> >
> > Habe
> > Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
> >
> 
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Bls: [ob] Re: DJIA for today - Next --> 20 EMA

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik EdwinKdr

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta...@... wrote:
>
> Kalau tembus 10rb mau tak mau harusnya ada pengaruh donk ama BEI nya.
Cuma distribution >over the top nanti harus diwaspadai, caranya nanti
kalau sudah dekat dekat di puncak sana, >awasi RSI, MACD divergencenya
lagi saja, mustinya bisa keliahatan arahnya.

Nggih mbah Tirta... [:">]

Sendika dawuh86, roger2... [B-)]  (gubraks)

IHSG Daily Plan


IHSG - 60 Menit Terbalik



Have a nice move

Tks


Regards



>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "EdwinKdr" edwinkdr@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Zoom zoom zoom, you should know where we are heading!!
> > >
> > >

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5749/djia.gif


> >
> >
> > Mantap sekali Pak Tirta858  [;)]
> >
> > Apakah nanti berpengaruh atau tdk thd Den BEI ?
> > Kata Jendral A9 sih tdk boleh berisik  [:))]
> >
> > Jadi monggo dilanjutkan saja DJI-nya.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tks
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Zoom zoom zoom. houston we have a bounce of 50 EMA
> > > >
> > > >

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5751/bigchart.gif


> > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



[ob] pilihan model CHART to pak JT

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik iwan jalal
Bos JT,
Bos mau tanya neh, saya suka bingung ini kalo mau milih model chart yg mana 
untuk dasar kita masuk atau keluar dari suatu saham,  kan banyak tuh metode2 
chart yg tersedia, ada RSI,MACD,bollinger band, dll soalnya kadang-kadang ada 1 
saham  yg apabila kita pake 2 atau lebih model chartnya malah hasilnya jadi 
berlawanan  arahnya . Selama ini bos JT pake metode CHART yg  mana yg mendekati 
tepat sempurna?

tq bos.


  

Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik David Lau
"bahkan keburukan sekalipun jika itu membuat kita menjadi baik, itu adalah 
kebaikan"

Saya sangat setuju dgn kalimat ini.

Btw, pak Mario Teguh jg idola saya. 

 
Regards,...
DvD™

"In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"







From: EdwinKdr 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 7:46:18 AM
Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

  

Mungkin sekedar menengahi saja  CMIIW

Segala sesuatu itu dapat dilihat dari buahnya

Kalo kata Pak Mario Teguh "bahkan keburukan sekalipun jika itu membuat kita 
menjadi baik, itu adalah kebaikan" 

Jadi ketakutan itu adalah bagian dari manusia itu sendiri, tdk bisa dihilangkan 
akan tetapi bisa diatasi.

Jika ketakutan itu muncul dengan landasan atau "benih" dari YMK maka, ketakutan 
kepada beliau, akan membuat kita menjauhi hal2 yg dilarang beliau..sehingga 
akan mejadi bijak dan jauh dari segala mara bahaya. 

Karena pada dasarnya Tuhan itu Maha Baik, sehingga yg disampaikan kepada kita 
tdk lain adalah demi Kebaikan itu sendiri.

Jika ketakutan itu muncul dengan landasan atau "benih" dari hal yg buruk/setan. 
maka ketakutan itu akan menjadi bencana.

Contoh :

KABAR ANGIN MENCIPTAKAN KELAPARAN
 
Pada  musim panas 1946 desas-desus tentang kelaparan melanda sebuah provinsi di 
negara Amerika Latin.  Pada  hal  tanaman tumbuh  dengan  baik, dan cuaca pun 
sempurna, menunggu panen raya. Tetapi karena daya sas-sus  itu  20.000  petani  
gurem meninggalkan  sawah-ladangnya  dan lari ke kota-kota. Karena perbuatan 
mereka panen gagal,  ribuan  orang  meninggal  dan isyu kelaparan terbukti 
nyata.


Jadi "There Is No Accident, You just need to beleive "  (- Kungfu Panda - )


Event itu adalah ramalan 2012 

Sekedar permisalan saja.

misal si A mempunyai kemampuan weruh saderenge winarah atau tahu sebelum 
kejadian/bisa melihat masa depan.
akan tetapi secara kemanusiaan dia belom siap menerima apa yg akan terjadi 
nanti kepada diri nya. dan sehingga akhirnya mengingkari takdir - lari dari 
kenyataan.

Dimana setelah itu Tuhan mengembalikan keseimbangan (takdir) itu ke dalam 
dirinya.
yg justru sebenarnya pengetahuan sebelum kejadian itu membuatnya ketakutan dan 
jauh dari pasrah ataupun meyakini bahwa Tuhan Maha Kuasa, yg sanggup 
membalikkan apapun sesuai dengan kehendak beliau. 

Maka jika seandainya saya menjadi A tsb, maka saya akan meminta kepada YMK 
untuk menutup kemampuan bathin saya untuk tahu sebelum kejadian. dan memohon 
Karunia untuk selalu setia dan pasrah kepada beliau YMK, apapun keadaannya.

Sehingga takdir apapun yg sampai kepada saya adalah Baik.

There is no accident. Rancangan Tuhan adalah damai sejahtera bukan kecelakaan.

Jadi kalo ada di karangan2 bahkan Ilmiah sekalipun yg menyatakan tahun 2012 
adalah kiamat.
Sekarang pertanyaannya bisa dibalik saja.

Apakah Ilmu pengetahuan itu Tuhan yg tahu segalanya ? dan apakah orang2 yg ahli 
mistis yg katanya melihat hal itu ? sanggup menghalangi kemampuan Tuhan 
menyelamatkan Hamba2Nya yg baik dan setia

Who Knows ?

Tuhan itu Maha Bijak...segala sesuatu boleh jadi karena kehendak Beliau 
Sekalipun ada banyak orang mengingkariNya, tapi beliau tetaplah ada.

Gusti iku adoh tanpa wates, cedhak tanpa senggolan... .
Gusti Allah iku mboten sare... 

Good Luck


Dan semoga bermanfaat, Mohon maap jika ada yg kurang berkenan.


Tks


Regards






--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Lau  wrote:
>
> Takut akan Tuhan, akan membuat orang hidup di jalan Tuhan.
> Hidup di jalan Tuhan sdh otomatis pasti akan membuat kualitas spiritual 
> seseorang menjadi semakin baik.
> Jika hal itu tidak membuat kualitas spiritualnya menjadi lebih baik, sdh 
> tentu dia tidak hidup di jalan Tuhan.
> 
> Bagaimana itu hidup di jalan Tuhan? saya rasa tidak perlu dijelaskan lagi.
> 
> 
> Regards,...
> DvDâ„¢
> 
> "In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
>  _ _ __
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  _ _ __
> From: iching_prediction iching_prediction@ ...
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 6:04:43 PM
> Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
> 
> 
> taat krn takut nga akan meningkatkan spritual seseorang
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Lau  wrote:
> >
> > Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti hanyalah orang² 
> > yg tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama Sang Pencipta).
> > 
> > 
> > Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
> > 
> > 
>

   

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Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik David Lau
Welcome to the club!

 
Regards,...
DvD™

"In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"







From: "kyce...@yahoo.com.sg" 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 8:23:42 AM
Subject: [ob] New member!

  
Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much from 
you all. Nice too meet you all.
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From:  "Aria Bela Nusa"  
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...
  
YUP – lihat bottom-line-nya ‘aja, yaitu earnings
seasons dr fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya – hiperinflasi
di sini bisa ‘aja berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya
– dstnya… 
 


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
] On Behalf Of Franky chandra
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009
10:25 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
Maaf yah
saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu hanya
sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap fokus
pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the time is
right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed usually know how
to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to control it, they can mix
it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so the market still steady, they
not simply increase the rate like that, a lot of factors in that case. Thanx
Powered
by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!!


 
From: inpestorpembelajar@ gmail.com 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct
2009 14:09:05 +
To: < obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com >
Subject: Re: [ob]
Dow 10,000...
 
Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg
dikerek tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good
buat pasar modal.

Salam
Sent from
my BlackBerry®
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From: "tjetjun"
 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct
2009 14:05:53 -
To: < obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com >
Subject: Re: [ob]
Dow 10,000...
 
  

numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US , kalau terjadi 
hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk
juga ? dari tulisan dibawah kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi
hiperinflasi, uang amrik akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya
kena dua arah.
menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data bagaimana
kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu ?
biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang luar
biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.

thks dan salam atas bantuannya

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
inpestorpembelajar@ ... wrote:
>
> Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> Just be prepare for the worst.
> 
> Disclaimer on 
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> 
> 
> Dow 10,000
> 
> 
> By Colin Twiggs
> October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> 
> These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
should
> not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> conditions can be found at Terms of
> 
Use. 
> 
> We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
> confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> secondary correction. 
> 
> In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
From
> 
The Frontline
> highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
the
> University of Basel , Switzerland ) into the causes of
hyper-inflation. In his
> book Monetary  1845427785>
> Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the
last
> 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through
> money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation
> occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
> 
> US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010,
a
> clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation
> occurs, traders would want to be short

Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Menarik ulasan yang disampaikan pak Edwin, sedikit menambahkan jika boleh.

Jika ketakutan adalah sebuah kesadaran bukan pengkondisian...

Jika cinta adalah sebuah kesadaran bukan sekedar sensasi..

Jika hidup adalah sebuah kesadaran bukan sekedar aktifitas yang dijalankan 
secara mechanical..

Lantas semua menjadi hening, semua menjadi indah..dan semua menjadi 
Spiritualitas.

Hanya hidup yang disadari yang layak dijalani.
  

Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. 

-Original Message-
From: "EdwinKdr" 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:46:18 
To: 
Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?


Mungkin sekedar menengahi saja  [:)]  CMIIW

Segala sesuatu itu dapat dilihat dari buahnya

Kalo kata Pak Mario Teguh "bahkan keburukan sekalipun jika itu membuat
kita menjadi baik, itu adalah kebaikan"  [:D]

Jadi ketakutan itu adalah bagian dari manusia itu sendiri, tdk bisa
dihilangkan akan tetapi bisa diatasi.

Jika ketakutan itu muncul dengan landasan atau "benih" dari YMK maka,
ketakutan kepada beliau, akan membuat kita menjauhi hal2 yg dilarang
beliau..sehingga akan mejadi bijak dan jauh dari segala mara bahaya. 
[:">]

Karena pada dasarnya Tuhan itu Maha Baik, sehingga yg disampaikan kepada
kita tdk lain adalah demi Kebaikan itu sendiri.

Jika ketakutan itu muncul dengan landasan atau "benih" dari hal yg
buruk/setan. maka ketakutan itu akan menjadi bencana.

Contoh :

KABAR ANGIN MENCIPTAKAN KELAPARAN

Pada  musim panas 1946 desas-desus tentang kelaparan melanda sebuah
provinsi di negara Amerika Latin.  Pada  hal  tanaman tumbuh  dengan 
baik, dan cuaca pun sempurna, menunggu panen raya. Tetapi karena daya
sas-sus  itu  20.000  petani  gurem meninggalkan  sawah-ladangnya  dan
lari ke kota-kota. Karena perbuatan mereka panen gagal,  ribuan  orang 
meninggal  dan isyu kelaparan terbukti nyata.


Jadi "There Is No Accident, You just need to beleive "  (- Kungfu Panda
-   )


Event itu adalah ramalan 2012  [:))]

Sekedar permisalan saja.

misal si A mempunyai kemampuan weruh saderenge winarah atau tahu sebelum
kejadian/bisa melihat masa depan.
akan tetapi secara kemanusiaan dia belom siap menerima apa yg akan
terjadi nanti kepada diri nya. dan sehingga akhirnya mengingkari takdir
- lari dari kenyataan.

Dimana setelah itu Tuhan mengembalikan keseimbangan (takdir) itu ke
dalam dirinya.
yg justru sebenarnya pengetahuan sebelum kejadian itu membuatnya
ketakutan dan jauh dari pasrah ataupun meyakini bahwa Tuhan Maha Kuasa,
yg sanggup membalikkan apapun sesuai dengan kehendak beliau.  [:">]

Maka jika seandainya saya menjadi A tsb, maka saya akan meminta kepada
YMK untuk menutup kemampuan bathin saya untuk tahu sebelum kejadian. dan
memohon Karunia untuk selalu setia dan pasrah kepada beliau YMK, apapun
keadaannya.

Sehingga takdir apapun yg sampai kepada saya adalah Baik.

There is no accident. Rancangan Tuhan adalah damai sejahtera bukan
kecelakaan.

Jadi kalo ada di karangan2 bahkan Ilmiah sekalipun yg menyatakan tahun
2012 adalah kiamat.
Sekarang pertanyaannya bisa dibalik saja.

Apakah Ilmu pengetahuan itu Tuhan yg tahu segalanya ? dan apakah orang2
yg ahli mistis yg katanya melihat hal itu ? sanggup menghalangi
kemampuan Tuhan menyelamatkan Hamba2Nya yg baik dan setia [:-/]

Who Knows ?

Tuhan itu Maha Bijak...segala sesuatu boleh jadi karena kehendak Beliau 
[:">]
Sekalipun ada banyak orang mengingkariNya, tapi beliau tetaplah ada.

Gusti iku adoh tanpa wates, cedhak tanpa senggolan
Gusti Allah iku mboten sare...  [;)]

Good Luck


Dan semoga bermanfaat, Mohon maap jika ada yg kurang berkenan.


Tks


Regards






--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, David Lau  wrote:
>
> Takut akan Tuhan, akan membuat orang hidup di jalan Tuhan.
> Hidup di jalan Tuhan sdh otomatis pasti akan membuat kualitas
spiritual seseorang menjadi semakin baik.
> Jika hal itu tidak membuat kualitas spiritualnya menjadi lebih baik,
sdh tentu dia tidak hidup di jalan Tuhan.
>
> Bagaimana itu hidup di jalan Tuhan? saya rasa tidak perlu dijelaskan
lagi.
>
>
> Regards,...
> DvDâ„¢
>
> "In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: iching_prediction iching_predict...@...
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 6:04:43 PM
> Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
>
>
> taat krn takut nga akan meningkatkan spritual seseorang
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Lau 
wrote:
> >
> > Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti
hanyalah orang² yg tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama
Sang Pencipta).
> >
> >
> > Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
> >
> >
>




Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik charles_3983

...

-___-"



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!"  wrote:
>
> *Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can take
> all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?]
> 
> *
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM,  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much
> > from you all. Nice too meet you all.
> >
> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > --
> > *From: * "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> > *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700
> > *To: *
> > *Subject: *RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> >
> >
> >  YUP – lihat *bottom-line*-nya `aja, yaitu *earnings seasons* dr
> > fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya – hiperinflasi di sini bisa `aja
> > berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya – dstnya…
> >
> >
> >  --
> >
> > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Franky chandra
> > *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM
> > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> > Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu
> > hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap
> > fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the
> > time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed
> > usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to
> > control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so
> > the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot
> > of factors in that case. Thanx
> >
> > Powered by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!!
> >  --
> >
> > *From: *inpestorpembela...@...
> >
> > *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +
> >
> > *To: *
> >
> > *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> >
> >
> > Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek
> > tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat
> > pasar modal.
> >
> > Salam
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> >  --
> >
> > *From: *"tjetjun" 
> >
> > *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 -
> >
> > *To: *
> >
> > *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi
> > hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah
> > kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik
> > akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
> > menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data
> > bagaimana kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu
> > ? biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang
> > luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.
> >
> > thks dan salam atas bantuannya
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> > inpestorpembelajar@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
> > salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
> > kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> > > Just be prepare for the worst.
> > >
> > > Disclaimer on
> > >
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> > > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44
> > > To: >
> > > Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> > >
> > >
> > > Dow 10,000
> > >
> > >
> > > By Colin Twiggs
> > > October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> > >
> > > These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
> > should
> > > not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> > > conditions can be found at Terms of
> > >  Use.
> > >
> > > We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> > > The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> > > 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout
> > would
> > > confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> > > secondary correction.
> > >
> > > In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
> > From
> > >  The
> > Frontline
> > > highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
> > the
> > > University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In
> > his
> > > book Monetary <
> > http://astore.amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785>
> > > Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> > > Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest

[ob] Anda mau BUMI rally ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Anda mau BUMI rally ?

http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png

- BUMI harus menembus garis coklat atau
  Mulut Buaya (3 colored line) untuk membentuk 
  Wave 3
- Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle

  




Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik katrin
Boy or girl ? Too many boys, and some girls are really harsh like elaine 
there..:p
-Original Message-
From: kyce...@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:23:42 
To: 
Subject: [ob] New member!

Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much from 
you all. Nice too meet you all.
Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...

YUP - lihat bottom-line-nya 'aja, yaitu earnings seasons dr fundamental
perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya - hiperinflasi di sini bisa 'aja berarti USD
masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya - dstnya. 

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Franky chandra
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu
hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap
fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the
time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed
usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to
control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so
the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot
of factors in that case. Thanx

Powered by My-BoLoT-berryR !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!!

  _  

From: inpestorpembela...@gmail.com 

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +

To: 

Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

 

Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek
tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat
pasar modal.

Salam

Sent from my BlackBerryR
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

  _  

From: "tjetjun"  

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 -

To: 

Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

 

  


numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi
hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah
kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik
akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data bagaimana
kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu ?
biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang
luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.

thks dan salam atas bantuannya

--- In obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups.com, inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
>
> Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> Just be prepare for the worst.
> 
> Disclaimer on 
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerryR
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 
> To: mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> 
> 
> Dow 10,000
> 
> 
> By Colin Twiggs
> October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> 
> These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
should
> not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> conditions can be found at Terms of
> 
lecharts.com/legal_vizhon/terms_of_use.htm> Use. 
> 
> We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
> confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> secondary correction. 
> 
> In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
From
> 
ethoughts.com/article.asp?id=mwo100909> The Frontline
> highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
the
> University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In
his
> book Monetary 
amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785>
> Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the
last
> 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through
> money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation
> occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. 
> 
> US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010,
a
> clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation
> occurs, traders w

Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
@Elaine: How nice.
@Kyce: Welcome... & jgn lupa kirim foto dan biodata untuk arsip milis :)

Salam,


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:00 AM, It's Elaine!  wrote:

>
>
> *Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can
> take all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?]
>
> *
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM,  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much
>> from you all. Nice too meet you all.
>>
>> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>>
>
<<03D.gif>>

[ob] IHSG update

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
Pernurunan IHSG sudah memasuki S4 di 2550.22
S5 ada di 2424.87

kemungkinan hari ini ihsg akan mental ke atas...

toleransi risiko sampai 2424.87 untuk kemas2 barang...

terima kasih
Hans


Re: [ob] Anda mau BUMI rally ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik elvira raven

intinya bumi harus close di atas 2950 :D
--- On Mon, 10/12/09, jsx_consultant  wrote:

From: jsx_consultant 
Subject: [ob] Anda mau BUMI rally ?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 7:13 PM












 
 





  Anda mau BUMI rally ?



http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi.png



- BUMI harus menembus garis coklat atau

  Mulut Buaya (3 colored line) untuk membentuk 

  Wave 3

- Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle




 

  




 






















  

Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik kokolato
Wakakakaak...don't worry kyce...many people will help u protect your money from 
el..especially embah..don't be affraid..he..he
Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie Group

-Original Message-
From: "It's Elaine!" 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:00:31 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] New member!

*Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can take
all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?]

*

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much
> from you all. Nice too meet you all.
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> --
> *From: * "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
>  YUP – lihat *bottom-line*-nya ‘aja, yaitu *earnings seasons* dr
> fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya – hiperinflasi di sini bisa ‘aja
> berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya – dstnya…
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Franky chandra
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
> Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu
> hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap
> fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the
> time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed
> usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to
> control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so
> the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot
> of factors in that case. Thanx
>
> Powered by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!!
>  --
>
> *From: *inpestorpembela...@gmail.com
>
> *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +
>
> *To: *
>
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
> Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek
> tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat
> pasar modal.
>
> Salam
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
>  --
>
> *From: *"tjetjun" 
>
> *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 -
>
> *To: *
>
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi
> hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah
> kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik
> akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
> menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data
> bagaimana kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu
> ? biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang
> luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.
>
> thks dan salam atas bantuannya
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
> >
> > Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
> salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
> kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> > Just be prepare for the worst.
> >
> > Disclaimer on
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44
> > To: >
> > Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> >
> > Dow 10,000
> >
> >
> > By Colin Twiggs
> > October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> >
> > These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
> should
> > not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> > conditions can be found at Terms of
> >  Use.
> >
> > We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> > The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> > 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout
> would
> > confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> > secondary correction.
> >
> > In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
> From
> >  The
> Frontline
> > highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
> the
> > University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In
> his
> > book Monetary <
> http://astore.amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785>
> > Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> > Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the
> last
> > 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits
> through
>

Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
another yahoo.com.sg's fellow...
kayaknya masih belum bisa terima posting dari OB/milis deh...

Salam,


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:15 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> Wakakakaak...don't worry kyce...many people will help u protect your money
> from el..especially embah..don't be affraid..he..he
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie Group
> --
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:00:31 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] New member!
>
>
>
> *Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can
> take all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?]
>
> *
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM,  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much
>> from you all. Nice too meet you all.
>>
>> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>> --
>> *From: * "Aria Bela Nusa" 
>> *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700
>> *To: *
>> *Subject: *RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>>
>>
>>
>>  YUP – lihat *bottom-line*-nya ‘aja, yaitu *earnings seasons* dr
>> fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya – hiperinflasi di sini bisa ‘aja
>> berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya – dstnya…
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Franky chandra
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM
>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>>
>> Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate
>> itu hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu
>> tetap fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat
>> when the time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the
>> fed usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to
>> control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so
>> the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot
>> of factors in that case. Thanx
>>
>> Powered by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!!
>>  --
>>
>> *From: *inpestorpembela...@gmail.com
>>
>> *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +
>>
>> *To: *
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>>
>>
>>
>> Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek
>> tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat
>> pasar modal.
>>
>> Salam
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
>>  --
>>
>> *From: *"tjetjun" 
>>
>> *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 -
>>
>> *To: *
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau
>> terjadi hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah
>> kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik
>> akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
>> menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data
>> bagaimana kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu
>> ? biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang
>> luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.
>>
>> thks dan salam atas bantuannya
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
>> inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
>> >
>> > Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
>> salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
>> kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
>> > Just be prepare for the worst.
>> >
>> > Disclaimer on
>> >
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
>> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
>> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44
>> > To: >
>> > Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>> >
>> >
>> > Dow 10,000
>> >
>> >
>> > By Colin Twiggs
>> > October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
>> >
>> > These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
>> should
>> > not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
>> > conditions can be found at Terms of
>> >  Use.
>> >
>> > We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third
>> quarter.
>> > The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the
>> FTSE
>> > 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout
>> would
>> > confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
>> > secondary correction.
>> >
>> > In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
>> From
>> >  The
>> Frontline
>> > highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
>> the
>> > University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-infla

[ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?


http://www.obolanbandar.com/piwihsg.png

Will Wave 4 stop  at the  Green Line ?
- If it does, we will have The LAST  Uptrend SubWave 5 --> SERBU !!!
- If JEBOL, Cut Loss at the Brown line



Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik elvira raven
becarefull here... we are ready to take your money too..lol--- On Mon, 10/12/09, kokol...@yahoo.co.id  wrote:From: kokol...@yahoo.co.id Subject: Re: [ob] New member!To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Monday, October 12, 2009, 7:15 PM










 
 


  









Wakakakaak.. .don't worry kyce...many people will help u protect your money from el..especially embah..don't be affraid..he. .heSent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie GroupFrom:  "It's Elaine!" 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:00:31 +0700To: Subject: Re: [ob] New member!
 


  Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can take all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. 
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM,   wrote:





























Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much from you all. Nice too meet you all.Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®From:  "Aria Bela Nusa" 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700To: Subject: RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...

 


  







YUP – lihat bottom-line-nya ‘aja, yaitu earnings
seasons dr fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya – hiperinflasi
di sini bisa ‘aja berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya
– dstnya… 

 









From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Franky chandra

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009
10:25 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...









Maaf yah
saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu hanya
sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap fokus
pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the time is
right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed usually know how
to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to control it, they can mix
it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so the market still steady, they
not simply increase the rate like that, a lot of factors in that case. Thanx

Powered
by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!!









From: inpestorpembelajar@ gmail.com






Date: Mon, 12 Oct
2009 14:09:05 +





To: 






Subject: Re: [ob]
Dow 10,000...





 



Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg
dikerek tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good
buat pasar modal.

Salam

Sent from
my BlackBerry®
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT









From: "tjetjun"
 





Date: Mon, 12 Oct
2009 14:05:53 -





To: 






Subject: Re: [ob]
Dow 10,000...





 



  




numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk
juga ? dari tulisan dibawah kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi
hiperinflasi, uang amrik akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya
kena dua arah.
menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data bagaimana
kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu ?
biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang luar
biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.

thks dan salam atas bantuannya

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
inpestorpembelajar@ ... wrote:
>
> Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> Just be prepare for the worst.
> 
> Disclaimer on 
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> 
> 
> Dow 10,000
> 
> 
> By Colin Twiggs
> October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> 
> These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
should
> not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> conditions can be found at Terms of
> 
Use. 
> 
> We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
> confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> secondary correction. 
> 
> In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
From
> 
The Frontline
> highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
the
> University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of
hyper-inflation. In his
> book Monetary 

Re: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
 Oops! This link appears to be broken.Salam,


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:19 AM, jsx_consultant <
jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:

> IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?
>
>
> http://www.obolanbandar.com/piwihsg.png
>
> Will Wave 4 stop  at the  Green Line ?
> - If it does, we will have The LAST  Uptrend SubWave 5 --> SERBU !!!
> - If JEBOL, Cut Loss at the Brown line
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


Re: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Iwan
Mbah,
Tidak bisa dibuka chartnya.
mungkin  gara-gara ada kata "serbu" nya



- Original Message - 
From: "jsx_consultant" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:19 AM
Subject: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?


> IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?
> 
> 
> http://www.obolanbandar.com/piwihsg.png
> 
> Will Wave 4 stop  at the  Green Line ?
> - If it does, we will have The LAST  Uptrend SubWave 5 --> SERBU !!!
> - If JEBOL, Cut Loss at the Brown line
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus 
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 


Re: [ob] Anda mau BUMI rally ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Thomas Frederick
tutup 2900 cukup kok :D



Thank You! 
 
ThomaS FredericK

--- On Mon, 10/12/09, elvira raven  wrote:


From: elvira raven 
Subject: Re: [ob] Anda mau BUMI rally ?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 9:15 PM


  








intinya bumi harus close di atas 2950 :D
--- On Mon, 10/12/09, jsx_consultant  wrote:


From: jsx_consultant 
Subject: [ob] Anda mau BUMI rally ?
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 7:13 PM


  

Anda mau BUMI rally ?

http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi.png

- BUMI harus menembus garis coklat atau
Mulut Buaya (3 colored line) untuk membentuk 
Wave 3
- Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle


















  

Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik tjetjun

El lumayan jahat, gertak duluan, hahaha


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!"  wrote:
>
> *Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can take
> all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?]
> 
> *
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM,  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much
> > from you all. Nice too meet you all.
> >
> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > --
> > *From: * "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> > *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700
> > *To: *
> > *Subject: *RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> >
> >
> >  YUP – lihat *bottom-line*-nya `aja, yaitu *earnings seasons* dr
> > fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya – hiperinflasi di sini bisa `aja
> > berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya – dstnya…
> >
> >
> >  --
> >
> > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Franky chandra
> > *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM
> > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> > Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu
> > hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap
> > fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the
> > time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed
> > usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to
> > control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so
> > the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot
> > of factors in that case. Thanx
> >
> > Powered by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!!
> >  --
> >
> > *From: *inpestorpembela...@...
> >
> > *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +
> >
> > *To: *
> >
> > *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> >
> >
> > Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek
> > tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat
> > pasar modal.
> >
> > Salam
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> >  --
> >
> > *From: *"tjetjun" 
> >
> > *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 -
> >
> > *To: *
> >
> > *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi
> > hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah
> > kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik
> > akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
> > menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data
> > bagaimana kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu
> > ? biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang
> > luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.
> >
> > thks dan salam atas bantuannya
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> > inpestorpembelajar@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
> > salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
> > kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> > > Just be prepare for the worst.
> > >
> > > Disclaimer on
> > >
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> > > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44
> > > To: >
> > > Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> > >
> > >
> > > Dow 10,000
> > >
> > >
> > > By Colin Twiggs
> > > October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> > >
> > > These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
> > should
> > > not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> > > conditions can be found at Terms of
> > >  Use.
> > >
> > > We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> > > The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> > > 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout
> > would
> > > confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> > > secondary correction.
> > >
> > > In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
> > From
> > >  The
> > Frontline
> > > highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
> > the
> > > University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In
> > his
> > > book Monetary <
> > http://astore.amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785>
> > > Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> > > Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the
> > l

Re: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Bayu Kusuma
iya ni mbah link nya ga bisa...wah jgn2 di kerjain lg ni

--- On Mon, 10/12/09, boyz®  wrote:

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Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 10:22 PM






 





  

Oops! This link appears to be broken.Salam,


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:19 AM, jsx_consultant  wrote:


IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?





http://www.obolanba ndar.com/ piwihsg. png



Will Wave 4 stop  at the  Green Line ?

- If it does, we will have The LAST  Uptrend SubWave 5 --> SERBU !!!

- If JEBOL, Cut Loss at the Brown line







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[ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
Gambar gak bisa di buka embah

tapi saya setuju bahwa hari ini ihsg berpeluang untuk naik

berikut level2 yang perlu dicermati sebagai pertahanan musuh (resistance)

 R1 2482.09  R2 2504.39  R3 2523.42  R4 2541.13  R5 2563.44  R6 2598.86
terima kasih
Hans


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:19 AM, jsx_consultant <
jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:

>
>
> IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?
>
> http://www.obolanbandar.com/piwihsg.png
>
> Will Wave 4 stop at the Green Line ?
> - If it does, we will have The LAST Uptrend SubWave 5 --> SERBU !!!
> - If JEBOL, Cut Loss at the Brown line
>
>  
>


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