Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9

2019-01-21 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 24 Sep 2018 as I do recall,
  Harriet Bazley  wrote:

> On 21 Sep 2018 as I do recall,
>   Justin Wierbonski  wrote:
>
> > Hey all, I did manage to get NS 3.9 built on my Powerbook G4, but noticed
> > when trying to access gmail when javascript is enabled, even if I try html
> > mode, it won't load. I just get a page with an ---> on it. If I turn off
> > javascript then html mode loads fine.
> >
> > So my question is, is there a fix for this, or is there a keyboard shortcut
> > for turning off/on javascript? Or is there something I need to change on my
> > system to allow the html version load without shutting off javascript?
> >
> So far as I know, the only way to access Gmail is to keep Javascript turned
> off - or to keep altering the setting under Choices->Content.
>
Except that now, having logged out of my Gmail account, I find that it won't
let me log in again:

"The browser you're using doesn't support JavaScript, or has JavaScript
turned off.

"To keep your Google Account secure, try signing in on a browser that has
JavaScript turned on."

So apparently I've just lost access to that email address...
(Enabling Netsurf's JavaScript doesn't help.)

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

Reality is for people who can't face science fiction.



Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9

2019-01-21 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall,
  Harriet Bazley  wrote:


[snip]

>  having logged out of my Gmail account, I find that it won't
> let me log in again:
>
> "The browser you're using doesn't support JavaScript, or has JavaScript
> turned off.
>
> "To keep your Google Account secure, try signing in on a browser that has
> JavaScript turned on."
>
> So apparently I've just lost access to that email address...
> (Enabling Netsurf's JavaScript doesn't help.)
>
I've managed to log myself in again for the moment by copying across the
entire Cookies file from a copy of Netsurf on another machine that was still
logged-in, but it's a rather disturbing prospect that if I'm ever logged out
at any point in the future, that will be it.   :-(

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

There are two ways to write error-free programs; only the third one works.



Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9

2019-01-21 Thread Bret Busby
On 22/01/2019, Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> On 24 Sep 2018 as I do recall,
>   Harriet Bazley  wrote:
>
>> On 21 Sep 2018 as I do recall,
>>   Justin Wierbonski  wrote:
>>
>> > Hey all, I did manage to get NS 3.9 built on my Powerbook G4, but
>> > noticed
>> > when trying to access gmail when javascript is enabled, even if I try
>> > html
>> > mode, it won't load. I just get a page with an ---> on it. If I turn
>> > off
>> > javascript then html mode loads fine.
>> >
>> > So my question is, is there a fix for this, or is there a keyboard
>> > shortcut
>> > for turning off/on javascript? Or is there something I need to change on
>> > my
>> > system to allow the html version load without shutting off javascript?
>> >
>> So far as I know, the only way to access Gmail is to keep Javascript
>> turned
>> off - or to keep altering the setting under Choices->Content.
>>
> Except that now, having logged out of my Gmail account, I find that it
> won't
> let me log in again:
>
> "The browser you're using doesn't support JavaScript, or has JavaScript
> turned off.
>
> "To keep your Google Account secure, try signing in on a browser that has
> JavaScript turned on."
>
> So apparently I've just lost access to that email address...
> (Enabling Netsurf's JavaScript doesn't help.)
>
> --
> Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==
>
> Reality is for people who can't face science fiction.
>
>

I am running Netsurf v3.2 (August 2014) (from Help -> About) on Ubuntu
Linux 16.04.x .

(NetSurf 3.2 (26th August 2014) )

Interestingly, the Help -> About window, whilst showing the version to
be dated 2014, has "Copyright 2003-2011" (?)

I do not enable javascript in Netsurf.

I access my primary gmail account (the one from which I have posted
thiis message), using Netsurf.

My gmail account is set to the basic mode (I do not knpow whether that
is the name of the mode, as assigned by google - it was previously
displayed in the gmail window, but, is not, now).

The gmail seems to be as usable as gmail is usable (it does not work
with firefox, for me - the way it is displayed in firefox, is
illegible).


-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992





Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9

2019-01-21 Thread Tim Hill
In article <8992087a57.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>, Harriet Bazley
 wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall, Harriet Bazley  wrote:


> [snip]

> >  having logged out of my Gmail account, 

[Snip]

> I've managed to log myself in again for the moment by copying across
> the entire Cookies file from a copy of Netsurf on another machine that
> was still logged-in, but it's a rather disturbing prospect that if I'm
> ever logged out at any point in the future, that will be it.   :-(

It is said Messenger Pro can access a Gmail account with its IMAP
capabilities, should you ever need a non-browser RISC OS + Gmail solution
in a pinch.

-- 
Tim Hill

Find an  event to attend at:
http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/
Mimemap and other stuff:
http://timil.com/riscos/



Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9

2019-01-21 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall,
  Tim Hill  wrote:

[snip]


> It is said Messenger Pro can access a Gmail account with its IMAP
> capabilities, should you ever need a non-browser RISC OS + Gmail solution
> in a pinch.
>
Yes, I was wondering about that - I had a nasty feeling you needed to be
logged in first (and probably in non-basic HTML mode) in order to obtain the
requisite details

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

It is far better to be deceived than to be undeceived by those we love.



Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9

2019-01-21 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall,
  Bret Busby  wrote:

[snip]


> The gmail seems to be as usable as gmail is usable (it does not work
> with firefox, for me - the way it is displayed in firefox, is
> illegible).
>

Yes, it is - but can you enter your password to log in?  (Better take a copy
of the COokies file if you plan to experiment...)

Google now appear to have wrapped GMail into the concept of their general
'Google Account', which I suspect is what is causing the problem.

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.



Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9

2019-01-21 Thread Tim Hill
In article , Harriet Bazley
 wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall, Tim Hill  wrote:

> [snip]


> > It is said Messenger Pro can access a Gmail account with its IMAP
> > capabilities, should you ever need a non-browser RISC OS + Gmail
> > solution in a pinch.
> >
> Yes, I was wondering about that - I had a nasty feeling you needed to
> be logged in first (and probably in non-basic HTML mode) in order to
> obtain the requisite details

Log in to enable IMAP then configure your email client...

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7126229?hl=en

-- 
Tim Hill

Find an  event to attend at:
http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/
Mimemap and other stuff:
http://timil.com/riscos/



Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9

2019-01-21 Thread Brian Howlett
On 21 Jan, Harriet Bazley wrote:

[snip]

> Yes, it is - but can you enter your password to log in?  (Better take a copy
> of the COokies file if you plan to experiment...)

> Google now appear to have wrapped GMail into the concept of their general
> 'Google Account', which I suspect is what is causing the problem.

I forgot all about using Gmail with MPro - works just fine here.

These are the settings I have in Hermes:-

POP3 mail server - pop.gmail.com
Port - 995
User name - (MyEmail)@gmail.com
Password - You get the picture...

Secure connection selected (SSL). Works a charm.
-- 
Brian Howlett
--
"Are you the Prime Minister?" "No, but I've often been mistaken."
"What, for the Prime Minister?" "No. I've just often been mistaken..."



Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9

2019-01-21 Thread Peter Young
On 21 Jan 2019  Harriet Bazley  wrote:

> On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall,
>   Bret Busby  wrote:

> [snip]


>> The gmail seems to be as usable as gmail is usable (it does not work
>> with firefox, for me - the way it is displayed in firefox, is
>> illegible).
>>

> Yes, it is - but can you enter your password to log in?  (Better take a copy
> of the COokies file if you plan to experiment...)

> Google now appear to have wrapped GMail into the concept of their general
> 'Google Account', which I suspect is what is causing the problem.

I have a Gmail account as a backup, and I can now easily access it using 
MPro 8.01. There are full instructions that came with 8.00 as to how to 
set this up, but you do need a non-RISC OS machine to set it up. 
Thereafter RISC OS does it all.

HTH,

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Au) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk