memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn

2016-08-20 Thread Dave Symes
In article <3f4747b255@abbeypress.net>,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:
> I'm using Virtual RiscPC on my ol' Windows XP laptop while away from 
> base.  Various wrinkles of this setup are still unfamiliar to me.

> One is that Netsurf (recent, #3538) too quickly eats up all the free 
> memory.

> What can I do to avoid this?  I guess I either need to fix Netsurf or 
> need to find a way to make Windows give more memory to VRPC.  Haven't 
> yet found a way to do either; advice welcome, please.

Inside the Models directory. open the "RISC OS Nnn(JIT)"
directory.(Which-ever one you are using). (VRPC-DL only has one, older
paid for versions of VRPC have three).

Open the Model.cfg file in a text editor.

Look for the [Ram] entry and change accordingly.

Word of caution...  256Mb is the biggest to use for a stable RISC OS.
You can try a max of 512Mb but as some of us have found (Known problems)
it can lead to a very wobbly RISC OS.

Dave

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Re: memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn

2016-08-20 Thread Peter Young
On 19 Aug 2016  Jim Nagel  wrote:

> I'm using Virtual RiscPC on my ol' Windows XP laptop while away from
> base.  Various wrinkles of this setup are still unfamiliar to me.

> One is that Netsurf (recent, #3538) too quickly eats up all the free
> memory.

> What can I do to avoid this?  I guess I either need to fix Netsurf or
> need to find a way to make Windows give more memory to VRPC.  Haven't
> yet found a way to do either; advice welcome, please.

Just a silly point, maybe. Why use NetSurf when you have much more 
versatile browsers in Windows? NetSurf is excellent as far as it goes, 
but can't compete with Chrome or Firefox on the dark side.

Best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn

2016-08-20 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:20:40AM +0100, Peter Young wrote:
> On 19 Aug 2016  Jim Nagel  wrote:
> 
> > I'm using Virtual RiscPC on my ol' Windows XP laptop while away from
> > base.  Various wrinkles of this setup are still unfamiliar to me.
> 
> Just a silly point, maybe. Why use NetSurf when you have much more 
> versatile browsers in Windows? NetSurf is excellent as far as it goes, 
> but can't compete with Chrome or Firefox on the dark side.

I very strongly recommend never connecting Windows XP to the internet.

B.



Re: memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn

2016-08-20 Thread Brian
In article ,
   Peter Young  wrote:
> On 19 Aug 2016  Jim Nagel  wrote:

> > I'm using Virtual RiscPC on my ol' Windows XP laptop while away from
> > base.  Various wrinkles of this setup are still unfamiliar to me.

> > One is that Netsurf (recent, #3538) too quickly eats up all the free
> > memory.

> > What can I do to avoid this?  I guess I either need to fix Netsurf or
> > need to find a way to make Windows give more memory to VRPC.  Haven't
> > yet found a way to do either; advice welcome, please.

> Just a silly point, maybe. Why use NetSurf when you have much more 
> versatile browsers in Windows? NetSurf is excellent as far as it goes, 
> but can't compete with Chrome or Firefox on the dark side.

Hi Peter,

Use it all the time for reading HTML in Pluto email. Also, Firefox in Win
7. Horses for courses, depending on what I am doing.

Wouldn't be without NetSurf now.

Take care.

Brian




Re: memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn

2016-08-20 Thread Dave Higton
In message <3f4747b255@abbeypress.net>
  Jim Nagel  wrote:

>I'm using Virtual RiscPC on my ol' Windows XP laptop while away from 
>base.  Various wrinkles of this setup are still unfamiliar to me.
>
>One is that Netsurf (recent, #3538) too quickly eats up all the free 
>memory.

Recent (as I type this) is #3672.

Dave



Re: memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn

2016-08-20 Thread Brian Jordan
In article ,
   Dave Higton  wrote:
> In message <3f4747b255@abbeypress.net>
>   Jim Nagel  wrote:

[Snip]

> Recent (as I type this) is #3672.

I have #3672 here as well. I have just taken a look at the Jenkins
NetSurf changes page and the most recent version reported there is #3543
(May 15, 2016 4:27 PM). Has the location of this information been changed
or have no changes been made since that date?
http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/jenkins/job/netsurf/changes

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Re: memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn

2016-08-20 Thread cj
In article ,
   Dave Higton  wrote:
> In message <3f4747b255@abbeypress.net>
>   Jim Nagel  wrote:

> >I'm using Virtual RiscPC on my ol' Windows XP laptop while away
> >from base.  Various wrinkles of this setup are still unfamiliar
> >to me.
> >
> >One is that Netsurf (recent, #3538) too quickly eats up all the
> >free memory.

> Recent (as I type this) is #3672.

The NetSurf (Linux like) memory nanagement doesn't transfer to RISC
OS memory management (what there is) very well. RISC OS currently
limits dynamic areas, and although NetSurf can use more than one, it
seems as if there is a main DA that once it reaches the limit it
effectively kills NetSurf. This happens very regularly,
unfortunately, if you are looking at graphic intensive sites, which
are becoming more and more the norm.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn

2016-08-20 Thread Bryan Hogan
In message <3f4747b255@abbeypress.net>
  Jim Nagel  wrote:

> I'm using Virtual RiscPC on my ol' Windows XP laptop while away from
> base.  Various wrinkles of this setup are still unfamiliar to me.

> One is that Netsurf (recent, #3538) too quickly eats up all the free
> memory.

> What can I do to avoid this?  I guess I either need to fix Netsurf or
> need to find a way to make Windows give more memory to VRPC.  Haven't
> yet found a way to do either; advice welcome, please.

You've missed out several important bits of information:
- what version of VRPC
- what version of RISC OS
- how much memory is currently allocated to VRPC
- how much memory Netsurf is gobbling
- what sites are you visiting when this happens

For info, Netsurf #3597 on this ARMini with RO5.20 currently has a 7MB 
wimpslot and a single 76MB dynamic area. Only the ROOL, StarDot and 
ROUGOL webpages open at the moment, but it has been up and running for 
over 10 days :-)

Compared to Firefox on my Linux laptop which needs over 300MB just to 
start with no page open and rapidly grows to over 1GB, often consuming 
all 2GB in the machine, I'd say NetSurf is being pretty frugal!

Bryan.

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