Re: Something went wrong between 2873 and 2874

2015-08-12 Thread Brian
In article <80739ff154.davem...@my.inbox.com>,
   Dave Higton  wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33867962 causes NS to silently
> evaporate from CI 2874 onwards - up to 2873 is OK.

Evaporates with #2890, too.

> I have reported it.

> 2874 onwards also fails to view the report in Mantis - which gives
> another URL to try.

> Dave




Re: Something went wrong between 2873 and 2874

2015-08-12 Thread David Pitt
In message <54f1ea25fbbbai...@argonet.co.uk>
  Brian  wrote:

> In article <80739ff154.davem...@my.inbox.com>,
>Dave Higton  wrote:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33867962 causes NS to silently
>> evaporate from CI 2874 onwards - up to 2873 is OK.

> Evaporates with #2890, too.

>> I have reported it.

>> 2874 onwards also fails to view the report in Mantis - which gives
>> another URL to try.

>> Dave

It's a JavaScript thing. This is with #2891.

Recent NetSurfs start up with JavaScript enabled no matter what had 
been saved to Choices previously. As such the site crashes. Disable 
JavaScript and the site renders.

Bug tracker updated.

http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2344

-- 
David Pitt
Raspberry Pi



Do Netsurf's errors get logged? (Syslog, Wimplog)

2015-08-12 Thread Jim Nagel
I was investigating why a download item on the Archive website was 
causing problems for somebody, and got this error box:

   Warning from Netsurf
   The file could not be saved due to an error:
   'ADFS::Drive2.$.2310d/zip' is a directory

Turned out that the drive where I was attempting to drop the 
downloaded item already had a copy of the item.  Deleted the copy, 
retried the download, and it completed OK.

Two observations:

(1) The wording of the warning seems inappropriate.  A "directory"?

(2) The text of the warning was not recorded by !Syslog (whose job is 
to make it easy for people submitting bug reports to quote the exact 
wording of an error message).  I searched the whole log and found 
nothing from Netsurf.  Which leads me to ask:

Does Netsurf need to be tweaked somehow so that its errors will be 
logged?  Or does !Syslog (or its subsidiary !Wimplog) need the tweak?

*help wimplog says: "The Wimplog module logs errors sent to 
Wimp_ReportError (ie, shown as error boxes on the screen) to a file 
using !Syslog."


(I'm using Netsurf #2789 on Iyonix 5.18, Syslog 0.20, Wimplog 1.02)

-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk



Re: Do Netsurf's errors get logged? (Syslog, Wimplog)

2015-08-12 Thread cj
In article ,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:

>Warning from Netsurf
>The file could not be saved due to an error:
>'ADFS::Drive2.$.2310d/zip' is a directory

This is a common error and nothing to do with Netsurf as such. It is
due to some oddity with SparkFS and handling of zip files, and seems
to depend on how the original zip was produced (software). I get it
from Filer_Action when running SyncDisc jobs.

> (1) The wording of the warning seems inappropriate.  A "directory"?

SparkFS etc treats zip files as image files, so zips can appear as a
directory containing files.

> (2) The text of the warning was not recorded by !Syslog (whose job
> is to make it easy for people submitting bug reports to quote the
> exact wording of an error message).  I searched the whole log and
> found nothing from Netsurf.

Netsurf uses its own logging and does not send anything to Syslog.

> *help wimplog says: "The Wimplog module logs errors sent to 
> Wimp_ReportError (ie, shown as error boxes on the screen) to a file 
> using !Syslog."

Wimplog intercepts the standard Wimp_ReportError wimp error messages.
If Netsurf uses its own internal error reporting, then Wimplog will
not see it.



> (I'm using Netsurf #2789 on Iyonix 5.18, Syslog 0.20, Wimplog 1.02)

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Do Netsurf's errors get logged? (Syslog, Wimplog)

2015-08-12 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:53:57PM +0100, cj wrote:
> > *help wimplog says: "The Wimplog module logs errors sent to 
> > Wimp_ReportError (ie, shown as error boxes on the screen) to a file 
> > using !Syslog."
> 
> Wimplog intercepts the standard Wimp_ReportError wimp error messages.
> If Netsurf uses its own internal error reporting, then Wimplog will
> not see it.

Correct.  Wimp_ReportError is evil and NetSurf does not use it unless
the event is cataclysmic.

B.



Re: Do Netsurf's errors get logged? (Syslog, Wimplog)

2015-08-12 Thread Fred Bambrough
In message <54f1f9a962ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>
 cj  wrote:

> In article ,
>Jim Nagel  wrote:
> 
> >Warning from Netsurf
> >The file could not be saved due to an error:
> >'ADFS::Drive2.$.2310d/zip' is a directory
> 
> This is a common error and nothing to do with Netsurf as such. It is due
> to some oddity with SparkFS and handling of zip files, and seems to
> depend on how the original zip was produced (software). I get it from
> Filer_Action when running SyncDisc jobs.
[snip]

... and the way to avoid it is to quit SparkFS using "FS too".



Re: Do Netsurf's errors get logged? (Syslog, Wimplog)

2015-08-12 Thread cj
In article ,
   Fred Bambrough  wrote:
> ... and the way to avoid it is to quit SparkFS using "FS too".

Agreed - that is why I have added a 'kill' facility to the version of
SyncDiscs I use myself.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Do Netsurf's errors get logged? (Syslog, Wimplog)

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 12 Aug, cj wrote in message
<54f1f9a962ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>:

> In article ,
>Jim Nagel  wrote:
> 
> >Warning from Netsurf
> >The file could not be saved due to an error:
> >'ADFS::Drive2.$.2310d/zip' is a directory
> 
> This is a common error and nothing to do with Netsurf as such. It is due
> to some oddity with SparkFS and handling of zip files, and seems to depend
> on how the original zip was produced (software). I get it from
> Filer_Action when running SyncDisc jobs.

I'm not sure it's that odd.  If SparkFS has been seen and the zip file has
the correct filetype, RISC OS will report the object to NetSurf as a
directory, not a file (/some/ calls will report it as an "image directory",
but others won't).

> > (1) The wording of the warning seems inappropriate.  A "directory"?
> 
> SparkFS etc treats zip files as image files, so zips can appear as a
> directory containing files.

While undeniably clever, the whole image filing system concept has some
really big holes in it.

> > (2) The text of the warning was not recorded by !Syslog (whose job is to
> > make it easy for people submitting bug reports to quote the exact
> > wording of an error message).  I searched the whole log and found
> > nothing from Netsurf.

Some confusion? There's no single SysLog log, so it isn't clear which "whole
log" Jim searched...

> Netsurf uses its own logging and does not send anything to Syslog.

Indeed.

> > *help wimplog says: "The Wimplog module logs errors sent to
> > Wimp_ReportError (ie, shown as error boxes on the screen) to a file
> > using !Syslog."
> 
> Wimplog intercepts the standard Wimp_ReportError wimp error messages. If
> Netsurf uses its own internal error reporting, then Wimplog will not see
> it.

NetSurf uses its own non-blocking error dialogues, so WimpLog won't ever see
the errors reported.

In terms of bug reporting, NetSurf's own log is far more detailed and far
more useful.

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/



Re: Do Netsurf's errors get logged? (Syslog, Wimplog)

2015-08-12 Thread cj
In article ,
   Steve Fryatt  wrote:
> I'm not sure it's that odd.

What is odd is that out of hundreds of zip files on the hard drive,
only a very small number error in this way.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Do Netsurf's errors get logged? (Syslog, Wimplog)

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 12 Aug, cj wrote in message
<54f23593afch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>:

> In article ,
>Steve Fryatt  wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure it's that odd.
> 
> What is odd is that out of hundreds of zip files on the hard drive, only a
> very small number error in this way.

It's /any/ Zipfile, StrongHelp manual or whatever once the 'owner' is
running, isn't it? It usually is here, anyway.

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/