Re: passive bandwidth estimation

2011-10-06 Thread Murtaza
Thanks a lot for referring to such valuable resources. However, the problem
is that these are active measurement tools. Anyways, I will keep on looking
and will post if I'll find a good passive measurement solution.
Regards,
Ghulam

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Ricardo Oliveira  wrote:

> http://www.icir.org/models/tools.html
>
> --Ricardo
>
> On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Murtaza wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> > I want to do passive available bandwidth measurement. I was just
> wandering
> > what tools/techniques people are generally using these days. And is it a
> > good idea to use congestion window as parameter.
> > Ghulam
>
>


Re: Steve Jobs has died

2011-10-06 Thread Tayeb Meftah
If no Steve à blind man can not use iPhone


Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 6 oct. 2011 à 03:33, "Aaron C. de Bruyn"  a écrit :

> I remember the first 'real' program I wrote waay back in 1985 on an
> Apple IIe. It was a very simple reminder program that would show me my
> todo list for the day.
>
> Wonder if they'll be holding an iPhone-camera-flash-bulb vigil outside
> the Apple stores.  ;)
>
> -A
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 17:42, Ryan Finnesey  wrote:
>> Sad day for all.  He will be missed
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:a...@corp.nac.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:15 PM
>> To: 'NANOG list'
>> Subject: Steve Jobs has died
>>
>> Not entirely on-list-topic, but still relevant.
>>
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20116336-37/apple-co-founder-chairman-stev
>> e-jobs-dies/?tag=cnetRiver
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>



Re:

2011-10-06 Thread Tayeb Meftah
Whhat
???
Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 6 oct. 2011 à 02:14, Dennis Reak  a écrit :

>
>



Re: Looking Glass Functionality

2011-10-06 Thread Alain Hebert

 Depend on what you need...

This one still works:

http://freshmeat.net/projects/lg/

There an example to route-views:

http://www.metrooptic.com/support/lg/index.cgi

Contact me offlist if you want an example of the .conf file.

-
Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net
PubNIX Inc.
50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443


On 10/05/11 10:05, Positively Optimistic wrote:

Greetings
Does anyone know of a off-the-self product that provides looking glass
functionality for a network ?

Many thanks,
-Optimistic





Re: Steve Jobs has died

2011-10-06 Thread James Jones
Steve Jobs passing is very sad and has affected me more than I thought it
would. He was and still will be in many regards the gold standard on which
innovators in the world of technology will be measured. He has had an effect
on many aspects of the world we live in today. You can see the ripple
effects of what two guys and some ICs in a garage did so long ago. You can
see his influence not only in the technology we use today but
in corporate culture, media, art and social interaction.

  He was a man of passion and conviction. That is why he succeeded. He
was unyielding to what he thought was the right way to do something. This
may have cause many to think that he was a "Jerk" or "Hard to work with",
but it was those passions for doing it right that made him and Apple a
success.

  I am not trying to say that it was all swings and roundabouts, but if you
were watching you could see that as Steve grew up so did Apple. In the end I
think he got mostly right.

  Apple please keep Steve's legacy going. Still keep innovating and don't
be afraid to take chances.

   I wish the best for Steve's family. Steve you will be missed. God's
speed.


On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Tayeb Meftah  wrote:

> If no Steve à blind man can not use iPhone
>
>
> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>
> Le 6 oct. 2011 à 03:33, "Aaron C. de Bruyn"  a écrit :
>
> > I remember the first 'real' program I wrote waay back in 1985 on an
> > Apple IIe. It was a very simple reminder program that would show me my
> > todo list for the day.
> >
> > Wonder if they'll be holding an iPhone-camera-flash-bulb vigil outside
> > the Apple stores.  ;)
> >
> > -A
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 17:42, Ryan Finnesey  wrote:
> >> Sad day for all.  He will be missed
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:a...@corp.nac.net]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:15 PM
> >> To: 'NANOG list'
> >> Subject: Steve Jobs has died
> >>
> >> Not entirely on-list-topic, but still relevant.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20116336-37/apple-co-founder-chairman-stev
> >> e-jobs-dies/?tag=cnetRiver
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>


Re: Steve Jobs has died

2011-10-06 Thread JC Dill

On 05/10/11 5:15 PM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:

Not entirely on-list-topic, but still relevant.


I heard the news while in my car - I turned on the radio and they were 
in the middle of listing major Apple innovations and I realized it must 
be a Steve Jobs obit.  Then they said he was 56.  Suddenly I recalled 
the passing of Jon Postel.  Two great minds who both had a large effect 
on our industry, and who were both taken far too young.  RIP.


jc



Re: passive bandwidth estimation

2011-10-06 Thread Scott Weeks


--- v...@ee.lbl.gov wrote:
> > Any idea how can one do bandwidth measurement based on this?
> 
> vern paxson did extensive work in this area.  van jacobson too.

For more recent work, see the papers of Constantine Dovrolis.  (Likely
others, too, but that's the work that comes immediately to mind.)


For the interested; a shortcut...

I went looking and found:
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~dovrolis/publications-area.html

Under the "Network bandwidth estimation: capacity, available bandwidth and 
per-link measurements" heading I found "Available bandwidth measurement as 
simple as running wget".  wget?  heh.  Looks like a fun read! :-)

scott



Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-06 Thread Martin Millnert
Hi,

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Claudio Lapidus  wrote:
> what actual use cases have you seen in the field (if any) for DPI'ing user 
> sessions,
> considering we are mostly a DSL shop.

I've seen tyrannical governments use Bluecoat's to crack down on their
own population(*).
Was this the sort of use-case you were looking for? :)

Best,
Martin

(*) http://tcxsyria.ceops.eu/95191b161149135ba7bf6936e01bc3bb



Not operational, but related to the attendees in Philly

2011-10-06 Thread Brett Watson
I'm getting a rash of emails (as are some of my colleagues at work that are 
attending in Philly) from vendors that act like they know me, and just want to 
"have a drink and catch up while in Philly".

Just me, or are others seeing an increase in spam from vendors that will be 
there?

-b


RE: Not operational, but related to the attendees in Philly

2011-10-06 Thread John van Oppen
That does not seem to be unique to nanog.


-Original Message-
From: Brett Watson [mailto:br...@the-watsons.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 4:58 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Not operational, but related to the attendees in Philly

I'm getting a rash of emails (as are some of my colleagues at work that are 
attending in Philly) from vendors that act like they know me, and just want to 
"have a drink and catch up while in Philly".

Just me, or are others seeing an increase in spam from vendors that will be 
there?

-b



Re: Not operational, but related to the attendees in Philly

2011-10-06 Thread Brett Watson
On Oct 6, 2011, at 6:11 PM, John van Oppen wrote:

> That does not seem to be unique to nanog.

Oh I know, it's just never happened to me until this nanog, and I've been 
attending off/on since '94. (Ok, I probably got a few here and there).

I just need to get older and more crotchety-er like Randy, maybe they'll leave 
me alone.

-b


Re: Not operational, but related to the attendees in Philly

2011-10-06 Thread Randy Carpenter

I have been getting some from vendors that already have my email, and/or 
already have a relationship with. Nothing from someone I've never dealt with 
before. If that is what you are getting, then that is pretty slimy.

-Randy



- Original Message -
> I'm getting a rash of emails (as are some of my colleagues at work
> that are attending in Philly) from vendors that act like they know
> me, and just want to "have a drink and catch up while in Philly".
> 
> Just me, or are others seeing an increase in spam from vendors that
> will be there?
> 
> -b
> 
> 



Re: Steve Jobs has died

2011-10-06 Thread Wayne E Bouchard
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 08:15:02PM -0400, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
> Not entirely on-list-topic, but still relevant.
> 
> 
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20116336-37/apple-co-founder-chairman-steve-jobs-dies/?tag=cnetRiver

In some circles, he's being compared to Thomas Edison. Apply your own
opinion there whether you feel that's accurate or not. I'll just state
this: Both men were pasionate about what they did. They each changed
the world and left it better than they found it.

-Wayne

---
Wayne Bouchard
w...@typo.org
Network Dude
http://www.typo.org/~web/



Telus mail server admin

2011-10-06 Thread Mark Gauvin
Looking for a Telus tech with a clue to contact me offline regarding an issue 
that has arisen this week.

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Re: Steve Jobs has died

2011-10-06 Thread Paul Graydon

On 10/6/2011 4:02 PM, Wayne E Bouchard wrote:

On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 08:15:02PM -0400, Alex Rubenstein wrote:

Not entirely on-list-topic, but still relevant.


http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20116336-37/apple-co-founder-chairman-steve-jobs-dies/?tag=cnetRiver

In some circles, he's being compared to Thomas Edison. Apply your own
opinion there whether you feel that's accurate or not. I'll just state
this: Both men were pasionate about what they did. They each changed
the world and left it better than they found it.


It's probably not a bad analogy, like Ford and many other champions of 
industry he didn't invent groundbreaking technology (Edison's only 
invention was the phonograph IIRC, all else was improvements on existing 
technology).  They took what was already in existence and did something 
amazing with it: made it accessible, be it through price, ease of use or 
whatever.


Paul



RE: Not operational, but related to the attendees in Philly

2011-10-06 Thread Jon Lewis
No, but it is annoying that "vendors" do seem to scrape the nanog attendee 
list and feel it's ok to spam those people.


On Fri, 7 Oct 2011, John van Oppen wrote:


That does not seem to be unique to nanog.


-Original Message-
From: Brett Watson [mailto:br...@the-watsons.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 4:58 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Not operational, but related to the attendees in Philly

I'm getting a rash of emails (as are some of my colleagues at work that are attending in 
Philly) from vendors that act like they know me, and just want to "have a drink and 
catch up while in Philly".

Just me, or are others seeing an increase in spam from vendors that will be 
there?

-b




--
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 Senior Network Engineer |  therefore you are
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Re: Telus mail server admin

2011-10-06 Thread John Levine
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