Re: OLD root server IP addresses through history

2008-06-04 Thread Sean Donelan

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 02:53:26PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:



http://www.donelan.com/dnstimeline.html

1 Jun 1990
NIC.DDN.MIL 26.0.0.73 root service ends (last "original" root server)



it would much more helpful to have citations for your
dates.


Most of the dates came from the Namedroppers mailing list archives.  A few
came from other mailing lists or newspaper articles at the time.

But my actual question, which I neglected to include, Is Net-26 still 
seeing queries to the 26.0.0.73 root after 18 years?





Re: OLD root server IP addresses through history

2008-06-04 Thread Joel Jaeggli

Sean Donelan wrote:

But my actual question, which I neglected to include, Is Net-26 still 
seeing queries to the 26.0.0.73 root after 18 years?


26/8 doesn't appear in the routing table. so unless it's getting queries 
from inside the dod all those packets should fall on the floor the first 
time they hit a router without default.




Re: OLD root server IP addresses through history

2008-06-04 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 10:20:33AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 02:53:26PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>http://www.donelan.com/dnstimeline.html
> >>
> >>1 Jun 1990
> >>NIC.DDN.MIL 26.0.0.73 root service ends (last "original" root server)
> >
> >
> > it would much more helpful to have citations for your
> > dates.
> 
> Most of the dates came from the Namedroppers mailing list archives.  A few
> came from other mailing lists or newspaper articles at the time.
> 
> But my actual question, which I neglected to include, Is Net-26 still 
> seeing queries to the 26.0.0.73 root after 18 years?

i can see net 26, but will have to get an answer
from someone else.  

--bill



AT&T Outage?

2008-06-04 Thread Loveless, Phillip S.
I'm getting 100% packet loss out of NYC heading to Comcast.. anyone else
seeing anything?

 

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Danbury, CT 06810

 

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AT&T Outage?

2008-06-04 Thread Loveless, Phillip S.
Update:

 

4   785 ms   245 ms   781 ms  gbr5.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.202.130]

 5   756 ms   759 ms   787 ms  tbr1.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.11.9]

 6 *** Request timed out.

 7   729 ms   737 ms   699 ms  64.212.107.97

 8 *** Request timed out.

 9   682 ms   688 ms   331 ms
COMCAST-IP-SERVICES-LLC-New-York.TenGigabitEther

et9-2.ar4.NYC1.gblx.net [64.213.77.218]

10   667 ms   673 ms   674 ms
te-0-1-0-0-crs01.plainfield.nj.panjde.comcast.ne

 [68.85.192.37]

11 *** Request timed out.

12   710 ms   696 ms   709 ms
te-1-1-ur02.mtlaurel.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.8

.192.42]

13 *** Request timed out.

14 *** Request timed out.

15 *** Request timed out.

 

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Phillip S. Loveless



 



RE: AT&T Outage?

2008-06-04 Thread Loveless, Phillip S.

Same coming out of the mid-west also.

  4 12.122.96.5 584 msec 788 msec 784 msec
  5 192.205.34.62 816 msec 632 msec 616 msec
  6 ae-15-51.car1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.68.103.10) 712 msec 808 msec
860 msec
  7 COMCAST-IP.car1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.71.252.6) 784 msec 840 msec
784 msec
  8 pos-0-8-0-0-cr01.mclean.va.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.70) 736 msec
820 msec
 784 msec
  9 pos-0-0-0-0-cr01.philadelphia.pa.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.6) 796
msec 844
 msec 852 msec
 10 be-40-crs01.401nbroadst.pa.panjde.comcast.net (68.86.208.33) 872
msec 804 ms
ec 696 msec
 11 pos-0-7-0-0-crs01.ivyland.pa.panjde.comcast.net (68.85.192.202) 748
msec 824
 msec *
 12 te-0-1-0-0-crs01.plainfield.nj.panjde.comcast.net (68.85.192.37) 700
msec 74
0 msec 784 msec
 13 te-1-1-ur01.mtlaurel.nj.panjde.comcast.net (68.85.192.38) 824 msec
848 msec
864 msec
 14 te-1-1-ur02.mtlaurel.nj.panjde.comcast.net (68.85.192.42) 800 msec
768 msec
716 msec
 15 te-1-1-ur01.arneysmount.nj.panjde.comcast.net (68.85.192.46) 680
msec 692 ms
ec 828 msec
 16 GE-0-1-ubr01.arneysmount.nj.panjde.comcast.net (68.86.223.118) 824
msec 800
msec 816 msec
 17  *  *  *
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-Original Message-
From: Loveless, Phillip S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AT&T Outage?

Update:

 

4   785 ms   245 ms   781 ms  gbr5.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.202.130]

 5   756 ms   759 ms   787 ms  tbr1.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.11.9]

 6 *** Request timed out.

 7   729 ms   737 ms   699 ms  64.212.107.97

 8 *** Request timed out.

 9   682 ms   688 ms   331 ms
COMCAST-IP-SERVICES-LLC-New-York.TenGigabitEther

et9-2.ar4.NYC1.gblx.net [64.213.77.218]

10   667 ms   673 ms   674 ms
te-0-1-0-0-crs01.plainfield.nj.panjde.comcast.ne

 [68.85.192.37]

11 *** Request timed out.

12   710 ms   696 ms   709 ms
te-1-1-ur02.mtlaurel.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.8

.192.42]

13 *** Request timed out.

14 *** Request timed out.

15 *** Request timed out.

 

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Phillip S. Loveless



 




Re: amazonaws.com?

2008-06-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:08:47AM -0700, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> Dorn Hetzel wrote:
> >There is a really huge difference in the ease with which payment from a
> >credit card can be reversed if fraudulent, and the amount of effort
> >necessary to reverse a wire transfer. I won't go so far as to say that
> >reversing a wire transfer is impossible, but I would claim it's many orders
> >of magnitude harder than the credit card reversal.
> 
> To paraphrase one of my colleagues from the user interaction world:
> 
>   "The key to offering a compelling service is minimising
>   transaction hassles."
> 
> I encourage all my competitors to implement inconvenient hard to use 
> payment methods

I do too.

If all of your competitors uniformly make it just enough harder for Bad
Actors to rent servers from which to Act Bad, then we'll *know* where
it's coming from, and what to do about it -- and why (you wanted to
make more money).

See also "Tragedy Of The Commons".

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
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Designer+-Internetworking--+-+RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates   |  Best Practices Wiki | | '87 e24
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  If you can read this... thank a system administrator.  Or two.  --me



Re: amazonaws.com?

2008-06-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:10:40AM -0700, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> Barry Shein wrote:
> > > Equating port 25 use with domestic terrorism is specious.
> > > 
> > > Ammonium nitrate requires requires some care in handling regardless of 
> > > your intentions,see for exmple the oppau or texas city disasters.
> >
> >And how different is that from the million+ strong zombie botnets? Who
> >owns (not pwns) those zombie'd systems and what were their intentions?
> 
> Well let's see. The texas city disaster is/was considered the worst 
> industrial accident in american history. 581 people killed by an 
> explosive yield of about 2 kilotons. The secondary effects includes 
> fires in many of the chemical facilities in Galveston and a swath of 
> destruction that reached up to 40 miles inland...
> 
> http://www.local1259iaff.org/disaster.html
> 
> So no, I don't think internet attached hosts can casually equated with 
> the destructive potential of a pile of fertilizer at least not in the 
> context described.

One word: SCADA.

Yes, in point of fact, I think it *is* reasonable to evaluate potential
threats to "just some PCs getting pwned" in terms of physical damage
on grander scales.

It's not just about spam, or fraudulent credit charges.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
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Designer+-Internetworking--+-+RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates   |  Best Practices Wiki | | '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA+-http://bestpractices.wikia.com-+ +1 727 647 1274

  If you can read this... thank a system administrator.  Or two.  --me



RE: AT&T Outage?

2008-06-04 Thread Jason Gurtz
> Same coming out of the mid-west also.

Not seeing anything unusual here in S.E CT (att adsl going to Comcast
business cable acct.).

 1 2 ms10 ms 2 ms  172.16.34.250
 2 1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  69.183.133.206
 3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms  se1-l0.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net [204.60.4.38]
 4 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms  dist1-vlan60.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net
[66.159.184.226]
 545 ms24 ms15 ms  bb1-10g2-0.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net
[151.164.92.147]
 688 ms98 ms   147 ms  151.164.94.255
 7   100 ms52 ms13 ms  asn3356-level3.eqnwnj.sbcglobal.net
[151.164.89.250]
 816 ms18 ms17 ms  ae-31-53.ebr1.newark1.level3.net
[4.68.99.94]
 914 ms17 ms17 ms  ae-2.ebr1.newyork1.level3.net [4.69.132.97]
1024 ms19 ms16 ms  ae-71-71.csw2.newyork1.level3.net
[4.69.134.70]
1113 ms13 ms13 ms  ae-2-79.edge1.newyork2.level3.net
[4.68.16.75]
1214 ms28 ms13 ms  comcast-ip.edge1.newyork2.level3.net
[4.71.184.2]
1316 ms17 ms17 ms
te-3-3-ar01.chartford.ct.hartford.comcast.net [68.86.90.66]
1417 ms17 ms17 ms  po-10-ar01.berlin.ct.hartford.comcast.net
[68.87.146.30]
1517 ms17 ms17 ms
te-9-1-ur01.middletown.ct.hartford.comcast.net [68.87.182.50]
1618 ms17 ms18 ms
te-9-1-ur01.killingworth.ct.hartford.comcast.net [68.87.182.46]
1718 ms18 ms28 ms  te-9-1-ur01.clinton.ct.hartford.comcast.net
[68.87.182.42]
1819 ms20 ms20 ms  te-8-1-ur01.groton.ct.hartford.comcast.net
[68.87.182.21]
1919 ms19 ms26 ms
te-9-1-ur01.nstonington.ct.hartford.comcast.net [68.87.182.25]
2019 ms19 ms20 ms  te-9-1-ur01.norwich.ct.hartford.comcast.net
[68.86.231.166]
21 * 1533 ms  2871 ms
75-144-196-61-connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.144.196.61]

ya, our end point is a tad saturated but not my problem yet. ;)

~JasonG

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RE: Power/temperature monitoring

2008-06-04 Thread Josh Fiske
Frank,

We have had good luck with a device called TemPager (http://tempager.com/).  
Our specific device is used for SNMP temperature monitoring, but they also make 
a device that includes the ability to humidity, power, flood, room entry, etc. 
etc.

Hope that is helpful,

Josh

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-Original Message-
From: Frank Bulk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 5/30/2008 10:58 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Power/temperature monitoring
 
Hopefully monitoring the status of a network is on-topic.

I'm looking for temperature and power monitoring unit to install in some
remote BWA cabinets.  We had two incidents where we lost power in a town and
we weren't aware of it until the backup batter drained to empty, and another
situation where the cabinet became too cold.  Because these cabinets are
less than 19" wide and just 3-5" deep, I need something quite small.  I did
find one product but it requires four components (unit with built-in
temperature sensor, adapter, and AC power sensor, plus power supply)

Perhaps there's someone on this list who has gone down this road and can
point me to a good product.

Required:
- temperature sensor
- 110 VAC power monitoring (on/off, not necessarily current)
- Ethernet interface (at least SNMP, Web GUI and 

Optional:
- fed via 12 VDC power
- 12 VDC power monitoring (current)
- humidity sensor


Frank