On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:10:40AM -0700, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > Barry Shein wrote: > > > Equating port 25 use with domestic terrorism is specious. > > > > > > Ammonium nitrate requires requires some care in handling regardless of > > > your intentions,see for exmple the oppau or texas city disasters. > > > >And how different is that from the million+ strong zombie botnets? Who > >owns (not pwns) those zombie'd systems and what were their intentions? > > Well let's see. The texas city disaster is/was considered the worst > industrial accident in american history. 581 people killed by an > explosive yield of about 2 kilotons. The secondary effects includes > fires in many of the chemical facilities in Galveston and a swath of > destruction that reached up to 40 miles inland... > > http://www.local1259iaff.org/disaster.html > > So no, I don't think internet attached hosts can casually equated with > the destructive potential of a pile of fertilizer at least not in the > context described.
One word: SCADA. Yes, in point of fact, I think it *is* reasonable to evaluate potential threats to "just some PCs getting pwned" in terms of physical damage on grander scales. It's not just about spam, or fraudulent credit charges. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer +-Internetworking------+---------+ RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates | Best Practices Wiki | | '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA +-http://bestpractices.wikia.com-+ +1 727 647 1274 If you can read this... thank a system administrator. Or two. --me