Re: options for mutt + notmuch integration
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2015-05-24 17:55 -0400, Xu Wang wrote: > >> I see the following possibilities: >> (1) mutt-kz >> (2) the python script. >> (3) mutt-notmuch [1] (I understand this is deprecated, see [2]) >> (4) notmuch-mutt, which is integrated into notmuch (see [3]) > >> Another objective of this email is to understand why mutt does not >> have an indexer built-in. Is this because of the Unix principle of >> simplicity? Does it violate some other philosophy of mutt development? >> Or has the work simply not been done to a point that it would be a >> good implementation? From what I read [4], mutt-kz forked mutt because >> "upstream authors deemed too radical". > > I would kind of like the answers to these questions as well. (For now I > installed mairix). But, first of all note that you forgot to resolve > your footnotes. Indeed. Thank you for letting me know, Ian! Here they are: [1] https://github.com/honza/mutt-notmuch-py [2] http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2012/03/mutt-notmuch_is_dead/ [3] http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch/tree/HEAD:/contrib/notmuch-mutt [4] http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/04/06/2017253/mutt-fork-adds-features-from-notmuch Best, Xu > > And wth is up with the wiki? Am I the only one for whom it is broken? > > -- > Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. > Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. >
Re: options for mutt + notmuch integration
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi Xu, > > On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 05:55:02PM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: >> >> I would prefer not to use mutt-kz because I do not like using forks in >> general. I wouldn't mind rebasing the patches on top of mutt though. >> Has anyone had success with this or do they not apply cleanly? > > I use mutt-kz for a few years now. If you choose to use it, there is no > need to merge with upstream mutt yourself. The mutt-kz repository is > synced with the mutt repo when there are enough commits to be synced. > In case of security fixes, the merges are done almost immediately. Good to know! > > Being able to search emails from within mutt is really convenient. On > top of that, I can access my emails using other applications because of > notmuch, e.g. I can link to emails from my notes in Org mode (an Emacs > major mode). I also have a few scripts that integrate easy access to > emails with my work flow. I also use a notmuch search based addressbook > with mutt. I cannot see any of this being possible without the search > capability offered by notmuch. Why not use message-ID and link to that? How does this linking to emails work better with mutt-kz? >> Is the only disadvantage of the virtual folder that changes made to a >> message in it are not applied to the actual message? > > This is not true, unless by changes you mean notmuch tags. In that > case, it doesn't make sense since a tag is meta information related to > indexing, so it is stored in the notmuch database. Notmuch, as a matter > of principle, never modifies the message file other than changing the > maildir flags, as appropriate. As far as I have followed notmuch > development, this is unlikely to change. I see, thank you for this explanation. > > Hope this helps, It helps a lot! Xu
Re: options for mutt + notmuch integration
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 05:55:02PM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: > Dear all, > > I am studying the best approach to get better searching from within > mutt. From what I understand, this involves looking for an indexer, > and the best indexer is notmuch. If I misunderstood either of the > previous points, please let me know. Note that my setup is mutt, > offlineimap, and gmail. > > Assuming notmuch is the way to go, I have looked into options for > integrating mutt and notmuch. > > I see the following possibilities: > (1) mutt-kz > (2) the python script. > (3) mutt-notmuch [1] (I understand this is deprecated, see [2]) > (4) notmuch-mutt, which is integrated into notmuch (see [3]) > > Is there another possibility I should look into? I use mairix for most things, and recoll in situations where mairix doesn't find what I want. Richard --- Name and OpenPGP keys available from pgp key servers
Re: options for mutt + notmuch integration
(Looks like my message didn't go through because of my example image attachment. I thought it was small enough, resending without it.) On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 03:48:17AM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: > > > > Being able to search emails from within mutt is really convenient. On > > top of that, I can access my emails using other applications because of > > notmuch, e.g. I can link to emails from my notes in Org mode (an Emacs > > major mode). I also have a few scripts that integrate easy access to > > emails with my work flow. I also use a notmuch search based addressbook > > with mutt. I cannot see any of this being possible without the search > > capability offered by notmuch. > > Why not use message-ID and link to that? How does this linking to > emails work better with mutt-kz? What do you mean? How can you link to a message by message-id without a search? Notmuch allows you to do exactly that. For example, I can link to your message (the one I'm responding to), in Org mode as: [[notmuch:id:cajhtkniqftd+6ufzq1lthtav2mw5267usud9xg2jjazzzva...@mail.gmail.com][Email from Xu Wang: Re: options for mutt + notmuch]] This is rendered in Emacs as: Email from Xu Wang: Re: options for mutt + notmuch in a special highlighted face so that I know it's a link and I can follow it with RET or left click. I could also link to the whole thread [[notmuch-search:thread:9981][Thread on mutt + notmuch on mutt-users]] or maybe something like this: [[notmuch-search:subject:"options%2520for%2520mutt%2520+%2520notmuch"][Thread on mutt-users: subject:"options for mutt + notmuch"]] Of course this is redundant for mailing list emails, since we have public archives, but for private emails, this is invaluable. I would suggest you give notmuch a try and find it for yourself rather than ask. I cannnot possibly foresee how you could integrate emails, and searching emails into your workflow. I don't even know what is your profession! Emails are my primary medium of collaboration. So this kind of integration is invaluable to me. Hope this helps, PS: I have attached a screenshot of an Org buffer with notmuch links -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.
Re: unable to send email
On Friday, 22 May, 2015 at 01:56:52 BST, cipher wrote: set smtp_url = "smtps://m...@site.com:passw...@mail.site.com:587/" set smtp_url = "smtps://m...@site.com:passw...@mail.site.com:465/" set smtp_url = "smtps://m...@site.com:passw...@mail.site.com:25/“ set smtp_url = "smtp://m...@site.com:passw...@mail.site.com:587/" set smtp_url = "smtp://m...@site.com:passw...@mail.site.com:465/" set smtp_url = "smtp://m...@site.com:passw...@mail.site.com:25/" I don't have the trailing slash in mine. Could it be that, or maybe it's getting confused by the @ in your username?
