Re: Problem with 'Lists', catches too many addresses

2011-11-06 Thread Chris Green
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 10:20:39PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 03:04:45PM -0700, Edward Morbius wrote:
> > What lists / subscriptions do you have in your .muttrc?
> > 
> Both the 'lists' and 'subscribes' have:-
> annou...@lists.alug.org.uk m...@lists.alug.org.uk 
> audacity-us...@lists.sourceforge.net baa-...@yahoogroups.com 
> bhs-suff...@yahoogroups.co.uk b...@the-hug.net cam...@googlegroups.com 
> cheddar-us...@lists.halon.org.uk dabo-us...@leafe.com 
> dbacruis...@lists.shire.net dbam...@lists.shire.net 
> dbaassociationmatt...@lists.shire.net dbasoc...@lists.shire.net 
> dia-l...@gnome.org digikam-us...@kde.org digit...@googlegroups.com 
> django-us...@googlegroups.com dnsmasq-disc...@lists.thekelleys.org.uk 
> dnsmasq-disc...@thekelleys.org.uk docutils-us...@lists.sourceforge.net 
> dokuw...@freelists.org supp...@drupal.org e...@yahoogroups.com 
> ex-vi...@googlegroups.com moderationplu...@yahoogroups.co.uk 
> gallery-us...@lists.sourceforge.net glabels-de...@lists.sourceforge.net 
> gnome-pilot-l...@gnome.org ipswichrecy...@yahoogroups.com 
> ipswichrecy...@yahoogroups.com ipswichrecy...@yahoogroups.com 
> ipswichrecyclec...@yahoogroups.com ipswichrecycle-ow...@yahoogroups.com 
> ix...@ixiemaster.ixion.org.uk leafnode-l...@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de
>  linux-...@vger.kernel.org mutt-users@mutt.org 
> owfs-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net p...@copilotconsulting.com 
> postfix-us...@postfix.org chris@isbd.net radio.telesc...@btinternet.com 
> rdiff-backup-us...@nongnu.org reminder...@mozdev.org snaf...@yahoogroups.com 
> nore...@sourceforge.net syncevolut...@syncevolution.org 
> dokuwiki-te...@freelists.org tin-us...@tin.org xubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com 
> ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com uk-rid...@the-hug.net us...@lists.ukfsn.org 
> ukmodsq...@yahoogroups.com ukraa-instrume...@yahoogroups.com 
> vbox-users-commun...@lists.sourceforge.net v...@nongnu.org x...@xfce.org 
> x...@yahoogroups.com dabo-us...@leafe.com 
> debian-eeepc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org 
> egroupware-us...@lists.sourceforge.net eventcalen...@firetree.net 
> evolution-l...@gnome.org f...@fvwm.org intel-...@lists.freedesktop.org 
> moin-u...@lists.sourceforge.net planner-l...@gnome.org 
> pyblosxom-us...@lists.sourceforge.net wpgar...@yahoogroups.com 
> wp-hack...@lists.automattic.com fw-gene...@lists.zend.com 
> 
> > If you're using the 'L' list response command, you should only reply
> > to the listed list address.
> > 
> > If you're still having issues, you might try a send-hook to catch the
> > list you don't want to send to and rewrite the address appropriately.
> > 
> > Are you sure that there's not a relay/mirror somewhere else that's
> > duplicating your mail?
> > 
> Absolutely, I can see the duplicate To: address in the headers of the
> E-Mail before I send it, mutt has put it there.
> 
> 
> > Could you post headers?
> > 
> When it happens again I'll do so, it doesn't *always* happen, it seems
> to be related to what's in the headers of the message I'm replying to.

... and here we are, I get the following To: line:-

To: ix...@ixiemaster.ixion.org.uk, ixion 

when I L[ist reply] to a message with these headers:-

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Re: mailcap entry for html - escaping spaces

2011-11-06 Thread Tim Johnson
* Cameron Simpson  [05 16:28]:
> On 05Nov2011 14:23, Tim Johnson  wrote:
> |   Done. I've installed the css package. Added the invocation of
> |   env.sh to to .profile. Restarted mutt. With environment :).
> |   Below is result of mutt -> !env
> [...]
> | TMPDIR=/var/folders/rj/6r6lch2d1mqb6p8k7s_ydrh8gn/T/
> 
> Interesting. Seems a surprisingly complicated path. Mine's /tmp or ~/tmp
> depending, normally.
  Which OS are you on? 

> | 
> PATH=/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11/bin:/opt/css/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
> 
> I'm surprised ~/bin isn't in here. Or do you not have one?
  I do. Will add it. Thanks 
 
> I'm hoping xv worked?
  It loads, but does not load the file. I just get the splash screen 

> | remap: /Users/tim/rc/remap: No such file or directory
> | Save [/Users/tim/dl/muttAUDN80.]?

  Also, would like to eliminate prompt to save file.  Do you mind
  resending me the URL for your documentation. I lost it. Sorry!

> | And what is the use for rc/remap?
> 
> rc/remap lets apphelper compute a default save file basename from the
> supplied filename,  
 Understood. I created it.

-- 
Tim 
tim at tee jay forty nine dot com or akwebsoft dot com
http://www.akwebsoft.com


Re: mailcap entry for html - escaping spaces

2011-11-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Nov2011 07:31, Tim Johnson  wrote:
| * Cameron Simpson  [05 16:28]:
| > On 05Nov2011 14:23, Tim Johnson  wrote:
| > |   Done. I've installed the css package. Added the invocation of
| > |   env.sh to to .profile. Restarted mutt. With environment :).
| > |   Below is result of mutt -> !env
| > [...]
| > | TMPDIR=/var/folders/rj/6r6lch2d1mqb6p8k7s_ydrh8gn/T/
| > 
| > Interesting. Seems a surprisingly complicated path. Mine's /tmp or ~/tmp
| > depending, normally.
|   Which OS are you on? 

Snow Leopard. But I explicitly set $TMPDIR in my login stuff, so maybe I
have never noticed the system default.

| > I'm hoping xv worked?
|   It loads, but does not load the file. I just get the splash screen 

That's no good. While "xv" is open, what does "ps" show its command line
to be? It should be running "xv the-file", presuming you have "xv %s" in
the mailcap.

| > | remap: /Users/tim/rc/remap: No such file or directory
| > | Save [/Users/tim/dl/muttAUDN80.]?
| 
|   Also, would like to eliminate prompt to save file.  Do you mind
|   resending me the URL for your documentation. I lost it. Sorry!

http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/css/manuals/apphelper.1.html

Sounds like you want the -N, -Y or -A options.

Half the point of apphelper is to view-and-offer-to-save. Otherwise you
may as well just run the viewer directly. (Unless you want to always
save the file I guess.)

Cheers,
-- 
Cameron Simpson  DoD#743
http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/

Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest do not happen at all.
The conscientious historian will correct these defects.
- Mark Twain, _A Horse's Tale_


OpenPGP and Subject encryption

2011-11-06 Thread P. Mazart
Hi,

are there any implementations or thoughts on subject encryption
for PGP/MIME, yet?

I wonder if there might be a special trigger word inside the
encypted body part to reset or redisplay the message’s
subject (e.g. X-Msg-Subject:), so one could choose a random
Subject: Header .

Thanks
P.M.


Re: mailcap entry for html - escaping spaces

2011-11-06 Thread Tim Johnson
* Cameron Simpson  [06 11:31]:
> 
> | > I'm hoping xv worked?
> |   It loads, but does not load the file. I just get the splash screen 
> 
> That's no good. While "xv" is open, what does "ps" show its command line
> to be? It should be running "xv the-file", presuming you have "xv %s" in
> the mailcap.
> 
> | > | remap: /Users/tim/rc/remap: No such file or directory
> | > | Save [/Users/tim/dl/muttAUDN80.]?
> | 
> |   Also, would like to eliminate prompt to save file.  Do you mind
> |   resending me the URL for your documentation. I lost it. Sorry!
> 
> http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/css/manuals/apphelper.1.html
> 
> Sounds like you want the -N, -Y or -A options.
> 
> Half the point of apphelper is to view-and-offer-to-save. Otherwise you
> may as well just run the viewer directly. (Unless you want to always
> save the file I guess.)
  Duh. I was missing the '%s' following xv.
  Since I would prefer just to save the attachment directly from
  mutt, I changed the rules to bypass ah.
  Right now I have the relevant rules:
(possible line wrapping...)

  text/html; withstdin --keepfor=60 --ext=.html open -a
  /usr/local/bin/chrome <%s
  image/jpg; xv %s; gui
  image/jpeg; xv %s; gui
  image/gif; xv %s; gui

  What I have tried worked more or less like in linux.

  But, with your reference to apphelper being a 'gateway drug', I
  would be happy to experiment further with it to see what other
  uses it has.

  thanks again.
-- 
Tim 
tim at tee jay forty nine dot com or akwebsoft dot com
http://www.akwebsoft.com


Re: mailcap entry for html - escaping spaces

2011-11-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Nov2011 13:46, Tim Johnson  wrote:
| * Cameron Simpson  [06 11:31]:
| > |   Also, would like to eliminate prompt to save file.  Do you mind
| > |   resending me the URL for your documentation. I lost it. Sorry!
| > 
| > http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/css/manuals/apphelper.1.html
| > 
| > Sounds like you want the -N, -Y or -A options.
| > 
| > Half the point of apphelper is to view-and-offer-to-save. Otherwise you
| > may as well just run the viewer directly. (Unless you want to always
| > save the file I guess.)

I meant to mention here that there are three responses to that prompt:

  y or yes  Save the file with the suggested name.
  n or no or just 
Skip saving the file.
  a filenameSave the file to your specified filename.

There's a whole section on "Saving The File" in the manual entry.
The convenience is remembering where the last file was saved,
and offering easy default and don't-save responses.
And it has some shortcuts for common fix-the-name stuff.

|   Since I would prefer just to save the attachment directly from
|   mutt, I changed the rules to bypass ah.

Sure.

|   Right now I have the relevant rules: (possible line wrapping...)
| 
|   text/html; withstdin --keepfor=60 --ext=.html open -a
|   /usr/local/bin/chrome <%s
|   image/jpg; xv %s; gui
|   image/jpeg; xv %s; gui
|   image/gif; xv %s; gui
| 
|   What I have tried worked more or less like in linux.

Looks good to me.

|   But, with your reference to apphelper being a 'gateway drug', I
|   would be happy to experiment further with it to see what other
|   uses it has.

I think I originally wrote apphelper for use with mozilla/firefox et al,
which would often present PDFs inline or hand them off to some viewer,
with _no_ save option at all. By making apphelper the handler for these
things I got to pick my viewer with more care and got the save option
as well (because I almost invariably want to archive any PDF I read).
BTW, being fired from a browser is the reason for the optional leading
"-t" option, to spawn a terminate for the view/save dialogue.

Then I started using it with mutt because the save facilities worked
better for me. If I just want to save something I do indeed use mutt's
attachment menu save facility, but if I view a file I welcome the
following save request. It also has a guess-the-file-type facility for
maltyped downloads.

Cheers,
-- 
Cameron Simpson  DoD#743
http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/

When you are in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut.