open email from external link

2011-04-15 Thread Alexander V Vershilov
Hello.

Sometimes I need functionallity of openning conrete email in
mutt. Can I do it from command line or even send some command to
existing mutt process to force it open email for reading. 

I need this functinality to make some sort of process:
1). get link to email from mutt
2). save it in text file or fs
3). be able to open this email in mutt


Is it possible or is there some workaround for such a functionallity?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Hashcash

2011-04-15 Thread Simon Ruderich
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 03:10:19PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote:
> [snip]
>
> # converting a list to a file-type object for parsing rfc822 headers
> original = sys.stdin.readlines()
> email = StringIO.StringIO(''.join(original))
> message = rfc822.Message(email)
>
> # ... snip ...
>
> # reprint the original mail, as well as the status of the hashcash check
> for line in original:
> if len(line) == 1 and len(token_status) > 0:
> print
> for status in token_status:
> print status
> token_status = []
> else:
> print line,
>
> Thanks again.

Hi,

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do. But
$display_filter should just read the message from stdin and pass
it to stdout. From what I can see that's what your program does
so it should be fine.

To test it just run it in a shell:

python verify_hashcash.py < path/to/mbox/file/with/one/mail

The following script is the simplest $display_filter doing
nothing:

#!/bin/sh

cat

If it works in the shell, it should work fine as $display_filter,
if not, please tell us.

Regards,
Simon
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Re: mh format questions

2011-04-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110414_210654, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I have been using fetchmail and procmail to get my mail from my ISP
> and distribute to several mbox folders using mutt as MUA. 
> I want to switch to using MH instead of mbox folder format. I have
> made the changes to procmailrc and some of the changes to muttrc.
> The mail seems to be arriving in the appropriate MH directories, but
> there is no indication that new mail has arrived, no indication the
> particular emails have not been seen, and email that I mark for 
> delection do not actually get deleted. 
> 
> I think this because there is no creation or updating of .mh_sequences
> I have not found any instructions for setting up some .mh_sequences
> handling. For the updating of unseen: , I cannot figure out if this
> should be done by procmail or by mutt. For deletion of emails, it 
> surely should be handled by mutt ... but HOW? Is this possible? 
> Pointers to a HOWTO will be much appreciated.

Responding to my own post with a correction: In fact, deleting emails
does work this morning. Last evening's result is now not repeatable.
But ... still no N marking new/unread emails. 
And a new discoverey: When composing an email, after closing the
emacs window, at the point where typing 'y' would send the email,
the 'q' does nothing. The screen remains unchanged. No offer of
postponement. Nothing. It does respond to 'e', whicn is how I am
able the offer this additional information. 

Suggestions?

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Re: open email from external link

2011-04-15 Thread Christian Ebert
* Alexander V Vershilov on Friday, April 15, 2011 at 15:12:48 +
> Sometimes I need functionallity of openning conrete email in
> mutt. Can I do it from command line or even send some command to
> existing mutt process to force it open email for reading. 
> 
> I need this functinality to make some sort of process:
> 1). get link to email from mutt

Could you elaborate? What kind of link? Example?

> 2). save it in text file or fs
> 3). be able to open this email in mutt
> 
> Is it possible or is there some workaround for such a functionallity?

I don't understand exactly what you're after, sorry.

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Re: open email from external link

2011-04-15 Thread Andreas Kalex
Hi,

it sounds to be a job for muttjump;I came across this tool by using taskwarrior.

> muttjump is a script by Johannes Weissl for jumping to a specific mail in 
> mutt via macro. This can used together with taskopen to open a mutt message 
> from a task. 
Perhaps you can use the script or parts of it for your purpose.


Andreas
* Christian Ebert  wrote on 15.04.2011 at 17:00:
> * Alexander V Vershilov on Friday, April 15, 2011 at 15:12:48 +
> > Sometimes I need functionallity of openning conrete email in
> > mutt. Can I do it from command line or even send some command to
> > existing mutt process to force it open email for reading. 
> > 
> > I need this functinality to make some sort of process:
> > 1). get link to email from mutt
> 
> Could you elaborate? What kind of link? Example?
> 
> > 2). save it in text file or fs
> > 3). be able to open this email in mutt
> > 
> > Is it possible or is there some workaround for such a functionallity?
> 
> I don't understand exactly what you're after, sorry.
> 
> c
> -- 
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> [ What the hell do you mean dogma, I am underdogma. ]
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mh format

2011-04-15 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm interested in using mh format for processing and storage of my  
emails on my debian wheezy
computer. That computer has been my main desktop machine and has been  
running mutt, procmail, fetchmail (for incoming) and exim4 (for  
outgoing).


Procmail can deliver emails to a mh-type folder and mutt can display  
and minipulate emails
that are stored in mh-type folders. So, I thought it might be a drop- 
in replacement of mbox-type

folders. But I am running into problems.

The first, most important, problem is that I seem to have lost the  
ability to send emails from that

computer. So, this email is coming from an old iMac running OSx 10.4.

The next question: Is this kind of switch form entirely mbox to  
entirely mh possible? or possible,

but difficult and messy, or impossible. And what are the reasons?

The reason for my interest in mh is that it stores each email in a  
separate file which will make
writing scripts to build indices of contents (I think). (On the iMac,  
Apple has introduced its own
proprietary storage format that uses separate files in order to  
enable it 'spot light' product to

do searches of emails.)

On the Wheezy machine, I am receiving emails and processing through  
procmail and delivering them to a half a dozen topically related  
folders to be read by Mutt. But Mutt
is not discovering that there is new mail available, and is not  
indicating that individual

emails are new when I display the contents in indexer.

I don't understand which program, procmail or mutt, should be  
responsible for creating
an 'unseen:' sequence. I have looked for, but have not found a HOWTO  
for this kind of
integration. Finding such would be a great help to me in learning  
enough about my

problem to be able to frame more intelligent questions.

TIA,
Paul



Re: mh format

2011-04-15 Thread Toby Cubitt
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 09:28:17AM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I'm interested in using mh format for processing and storage of my
> emails on my debian wheezy computer. That computer has been my main
> desktop machine and has been running mutt, procmail, fetchmail (for
> incoming) and exim4 (for outgoing).
> 
> Procmail can deliver emails to a mh-type folder and mutt can display
> and minipulate emails that are stored in mh-type folders. So, I thought
> it might be a drop- in replacement of mbox-type folders. But I am
> running into problems.
[...] 
> The reason for my interest in mh is that it stores each email in a
> separate file which will make writing scripts to build indices of
> contents (I think).

Maybe you answered this already and I missed it, but is there any reason
why you're choosing the mh format over maildir?

Maildir is essentially a more modern successor to mh, and like mh is a
file-per-message format. Whilst the advantages of the maildir format over
mh probably aren't that important in your setup, my impression is that
maildir is more widely used and better supported than mh these days, so
you might run into less problems with it. (For what it's worth, mutt,
procmail, and various home-grown scripts all work flawlessly for me with
maildir. I've never used the mh format.)


HTH,

Toby
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Re: mh format questions

2011-04-15 Thread Michael Tatge
* On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 09:06PM -0600 Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net) 
muttered:
> I want to switch to using MH instead of mbox folder format.
> there is no indication that new mail has arrived, no indication the
> particular emails have not been seen
> 
> I think this because there is no creation or updating of .mh_sequences

That is most likely true. I think google^w$searchmashine can help you
how to setup some cron jobs updating .mh_sequences.
May I ask why mh and not maildir, though? MH doesn't seem to be the
sensible choice switching to a "one file per message" format nowadays.

HTH,

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Re: mh format questions

2011-04-15 Thread David Champion
* On 14 Apr 2011, Paul E Condon wrote: 
> I have been using fetchmail and procmail to get my mail from my ISP
> and distribute to several mbox folders using mutt as MUA. 
> I want to switch to using MH instead of mbox folder format. I have

Not to answer your question, but as Michael Tatge alluded, I would use
Maildir instead of MH unless you have a specific need to interact with
MH-compatible software.

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Re: mh format questions

2011-04-15 Thread Ed Blackman

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 02:11:30PM -0500, David Champion wrote:

* On 14 Apr 2011, Paul E Condon wrote:

I have been using fetchmail and procmail to get my mail from my ISP
and distribute to several mbox folders using mutt as MUA.
I want to switch to using MH instead of mbox folder format. I have


Not to answer your question, but as Michael Tatge alluded, I would use
Maildir instead of MH unless you have a specific need to interact with
MH-compatible software.


I have actually been migrating from Maildir to MH for backup efficiency.  
I have procmail sort email into folders, and put a (sometimes modified) 
copy in my inbox where I can read and delete it, secure in the knowledge 
that I kept the original.


That means that I don't regularly read any mail folder other than my 
inbox.


If I use Maildir mail folders, that means that all my mail gets backed 
up in /path/to/folder/new.  Occasionally I will open one of those 
folders in mutt, moving all the mail to /path/to/folder/cur.  The next 
incremental backup then "deletes" the copy in /new from the backup and 
backs up the "new" copy in /cur.  Beyond that, flags are stored in the 
file name, so changing flags causes another backup delete/add.


With MH, on the other hand, message 13524 is always message 13524, 
regardless of whether I've seen it or not, or what the message flags 
are.  The flags are in .mh_sequences which is tiny if I care about 
saving those flags, and easy to exclude from backup if I don't.


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Re: Scoring threads

2011-04-15 Thread Michael Elkins

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:00:14PM +0200, Alexandre wrote:

Suppose you want to score all threads with this form:
A>B>A>B
without any specifications about the name of authors.

Is it possible ?


I'm not aware of any way to do this generically.

me


Re: mh format questions

2011-04-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110415_141130, David Champion wrote:
> * On 14 Apr 2011, Paul E Condon wrote: 
> > I have been using fetchmail and procmail to get my mail from my ISP
> > and distribute to several mbox folders using mutt as MUA. 
> > I want to switch to using MH instead of mbox folder format. I have
> 
> Not to answer your question, but as Michael Tatge alluded, I would use
> Maildir instead of MH unless you have a specific need to interact with
> MH-compatible software.

Thanks to both of you. 

I think I will have to do a more serious evaluation of maildir. And a
lot more thinking about what I am really trying to do.  Now I have
lots of things I have to study. I've been unhappy with my email system
for a long time. Just a few days ago, I had occasion to try to use
Thunderbird on an old iMac. From that reintroduction to a 'main
stream' MUA, I came to the conclusion that, fur me, Mutt will have to
be a central component of my solution. But beyond that, not much is
decided.

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Re: mh format

2011-04-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110415_184254, Toby Cubitt wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 09:28:17AM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > I'm interested in using mh format for processing and storage of my
> > emails on my debian wheezy computer. That computer has been my main
> > desktop machine and has been running mutt, procmail, fetchmail (for
> > incoming) and exim4 (for outgoing).
> > 
> > Procmail can deliver emails to a mh-type folder and mutt can display
> > and minipulate emails that are stored in mh-type folders. So, I thought
> > it might be a drop- in replacement of mbox-type folders. But I am
> > running into problems.
> [...] 
> > The reason for my interest in mh is that it stores each email in a
> > separate file which will make writing scripts to build indices of
> > contents (I think).
> 
> Maybe you answered this already and I missed it, but is there any reason
> why you're choosing the mh format over maildir?
> 
> Maildir is essentially a more modern successor to mh, and like mh is a
> file-per-message format. Whilst the advantages of the maildir format over
> mh probably aren't that important in your setup, my impression is that
> maildir is more widely used and better supported than mh these days, so
> you might run into less problems with it. (For what it's worth, mutt,
> procmail, and various home-grown scripts all work flawlessly for me with
> maildir. I've never used the mh format.)
> 
> 
> HTH,

It certainly does help. And I'm sorry I didn't notice you response sooner.
Now its three out of three for Maildir over MH, a question that I did not
ask, but probably should have.

Thanks to you, too.

> 
> Toby
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> Mathematics and Quantum Information group
> Department of Mathematics
> Complutense University
> Madrid, Spain
> 
> email: ts...@cantab.net
> web:   www.dr-qubit.org
> 



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