Read only inbox

2001-09-21 Thread Doug Kearns

Hello all,

I've just recently upgraded to mutt 1.3.22 and it seems I can no longer
delete mail from my inbox - /var/spool/mail/doug

Could someone point me to the relevant documentation ?

Thanks,
Doug



Re: Read only inbox

2001-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Doug Kearns  [21/09/01 19:25 +1000]:
> I've just recently upgraded to mutt 1.3.22 and it seems I can no longer
> delete mail from my inbox - /var/spool/mail/doug
> Could someone point me to the relevant documentation ?

Check the permissions of your mailbox - and see if there's a mutt dotlock
there ...

-suresh



Attachments

2001-09-21 Thread Scott Trafford

Hi All

I am having some trouble emailing specific attachments (file types).  I can 
send html attachments fine but my pdf files get corrupted.

Any ideas?

Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks,
Scott Trafford

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Re: what makes mutt recognize mbox files?

2001-09-21 Thread Erika Pacholleck

Thanks for all your suggestions, here the results:

running file on it returns: ASCII English text
(file ~/Mail/archive/postponed returns the same)
(file ~/Mail/archive/mutt returns ASCII mail text)
but both are recognized as mail files by vim and mutt

cat -vET only shows the $ after every last word in a line
(the postponed archive too)

These are the headers in real, anonymized of course:
 snip --- this is the very first line ---
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:46:52 -0500
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:46:52 -0500
From: x [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Newbie] RE:  Subject line here

message here.

Name of Sender




From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:16:46 -0400
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:16:46 -0400
From: First Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Newbie]Next subject line

message here.
- snap --- and so on ---

The only differences between my normal mutt headers are:
1. the From: email adress is in <> if a name is preceeding
2. a time "indicator" like GMT missing but this is not necessary
3. the From line has a , after the day and mine is without
4. there are no Length: and Lines: in it

I took the first two message (shorter than the whole file) and
I tried to insert those, but still no success.
I tried to add some other headers you would normally see, negative.
I tried to insert Lines: , no success.
I copied my postponed file in front of it, no success.

Any other ideas what could be the reason? (I know Lenght: is not
yet tried, but how would I get that for one message in an mbox?)
In that case I guess it would be easier to make myself a little
sed wrapper for searching the file instead of thinking a mailing
list archive has anything to do with a mail client ;))

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Re: what makes mutt recognize mbox files?

2001-09-21 Thread Erika Pacholleck

[20.09.01 22:18 +0200] Piet Delport <-- :
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 at 10:03:53 -0400, darren chamberlain wrote:
> > Erika Pacholleck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on 09/20/2001:
> > 
> > mbox files are separated by "\nFrom " (basically).
> > 
> > > The headers contain these lines
> > > >From xxx
> > > Date: bbb
> > > From: xx
> > > Subject: aaa
> > 
> > Those lines that begin with  ">From " should be "From ".
> 
> I think it's your local MDA that escaped the `From '. :-)
> 
> They show up naked here.  (I'm using Maildir here, which doesn't require
> `From 's in the message body to be escaped.
> 
> Erika, those messages should be fine.  Any chance of you posting (or
> mailing privately) some full examples (after stripping any
> private/sensitive information, of course)?  The problem might be subtler
> that the given example conveys.

The >From was not there when I wrote that, but occasionally a line has
the > sign in front were it does not belong. (fetchmail, postfix combi
but might as well be gmx).

And yes, I did post some examples, but till now they did not yet show
up in the list. Shall I resent them?
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Re: Read only inbox

2001-09-21 Thread David T-G

Doug --

...and then Doug Kearns said...
% Hello all,

Hi!


% 
% I've just recently upgraded to mutt 1.3.22 and it seems I can no longer
% delete mail from my inbox - /var/spool/mail/doug

It sounds like mutt can't write to your spool file, or at least thinks it
can't.  I trust that you've tried to toggle read-only with '%'.

If you have your old mutt, run

  /usr/bin/ls -lF /path/to/old/mutt

and see what group it is and what the group permissions are -- are they
just r-x or the special r-s that means "set group-id on execution"?
Check the same thing for an old mutt_dotlock program.

Now take a look at your new mutt.  First, though, run mutt -v and look
for

  Mutt 1.3.22.1i (2001-08-30)
  Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others.
  Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
  Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
  under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

  System: Linux 2.4.5 [using ncurses 5.0]
  Compile options:
  -DOMAIN
  +DEBUG
  +HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE
  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
  ...

to pay attention to USE_DOTLOCK (is it set or not?) and DL_STANDALONE (if
you are using dotlocking, does mutt expect to do it itself or call on an
external dotlock binary?).  Then ls your mutt and, perhaps, mutt_dotlock
and make sure that they have the proper permissions.

If your original mutt was installed by the sysadmin and you're now using
your own new copy, you'll have to get the sysadmin to set the permissions;
a normal user can't change the group to mail so that mutt or dotlock can
lock the mailbox.  If this is the case, many sysadmins would be very happy
if you chose +USE_DOTLOCK and +DL_STANDALONE because that requires only
a small, simple program to have special permissions, and your sysadmin
can probably read and security-test that before enabling it.  Of course,
if your sysadmin installed mutt before, she or he might just give you
a full-boat installation without asking any questions :-)


% 
% Could someone point me to the relevant documentation ?

Well, I don't know that there is any for this; sorry.


% 
% Thanks,
% Doug

HTH & HAND


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Re: Attachments

2001-09-21 Thread David T-G

Scott --

...and then Scott Trafford said...
% Hi All

Hello!


% 
% I am having some trouble emailing specific attachments (file types).  I can 
% send html attachments fine but my pdf files get corrupted.

How very interesting.  That doesn't make any sense.


% 
% Any ideas?

Post a [small!] one here to let folks using mutt test the receipt and
take a look at the email contents.


% 
% Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks,
% Scott Trafford

HTH & HAND


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Re: macro help (was "Re: rot13 capability?")

2001-09-21 Thread David T-G

Piet --

...and then Piet Delport said...
% On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 at 08:21:14 -0400, David T-G wrote:
% [...]
% > My muttrc has
% > 
% >   macro pager ,@r13on "set 
display_filter=$HOME/local/bin/rot13\nmacro pager \\cx 
,@r13off\n"
% >   macro pager ,@r13off "set display_filter=\nmacro 
pager\\cx ,@r13on\n"
% >   macro pager \cx ,@r13on   "Toggle ROT13 decoding"
% [...]
% > And why should the columns differ (example one to examples two and
% > three) and \cX lose its description?
% 
% Oops, missed that.  The description is lost every time  is
% re-defined from within the other macros.  Either add it there, or drop

Ahhh...  Yes, I see.  Thanks!

I've successfully added it back in -- and even escaped the "" around the
description to get it to work inside the macro definition "" :-)  I next
changed it to '' so that I wouldn't have to escape...


% it altogether, i think.  (Docs?  We don' need no steenkin' docs! :-)

*grin*


% 
% -- 
% Piet Delport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
% Today's subliminal thought is:


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Re: macro help (was "Re: rot13 capability?")

2001-09-21 Thread David T-G

Byrial --

...and then Byrial Jensen said...
% On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 09:21:52 -0400, David T-G wrote:
% > % 
% > %   macro pager ,@r13on "set 
display_filter=$HOME/local/bin/rot13\nmacro pager \\cx 
,@r13off\n"
...
% 
% You can do it a little shorter as several commands can be entered at
% the same command line. "\n" can be replaced by ";" in
% the on and the off macros.

Oh, cool -- thanks!  That will make the muttrc a little more readable...


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Re: Read only inbox

2001-09-21 Thread Doug Kearns

On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 02:55:44PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Doug Kearns  [21/09/01 19:25 +1000]:
> > I've just recently upgraded to mutt 1.3.22 and it seems I can no longer
> > delete mail from my inbox - /var/spool/mail/doug
> > Could someone point me to the relevant documentation ?
> 
> Check the permissions of your mailbox - and see if there's a mutt dotlock
> there ...

Yep, just found it.sorry :)

Apparently I failed to notice that the install, correctly, didn't set
mutt_dotlock setgid.

Thanks,
Doug



Re: .signature-related blues

2001-09-21 Thread Robert Berkowitz

Miguel Farah F. [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Also: one of the nice things about tin (the news reader) is that it
> lets you have a random signature (there's a fixed part and a random
> one, selected from the files in a directory previously declared). It'd
> be nice it mutt could do that as well.
> 

Mutt can do this with a little help =)

Here is a perl script that will do what you want:


#!/usr/bin/perl
# randsig.pl, by Don Blaheta.  Released into public domain, blah, blah, blah.
# Generates a signature randomly from a single file of witty quotes which
# the user maintains; the quotes can be multi-line, and are separated by
# blank lines. 

# Modifications by Glenn Maynard:
# Put your own signature in a file (typically ~/.sig), and your quotes in
# another file (ie ~/.randsig).  Put "%QUOTE%" in your signature file where
# you want a quote replaced. To simply output your sig with no quote 
# (%QUOTE removed), don't specify a quotefile.

# Cleaned up by me =)
# Place something like the following in your .muttrc to use this script.
# set signature="~/bin/randsig3.pl .sig ~/.mutt/quotes|"

$home =  $ENV{"HOME"}; 

if ($#ARGV lt 0 or $#ARGV gt 1) {
  print "Usage: $^X sigfile [quotefile]\n";
  exit 1;
} 

# determine the quote 
if ($#ARGV eq 1) {
  open (FI, "$ARGV[1]") or die "Can't open $ARGV[1]"; 

  # count the quotes
  $sig[0] = 0;
  while () { $sig[$#sig + 1] = tell if /^$/; } 

  # read one
  srand;
  seek(FI, $sig[int rand ($#sig + .)], SEEK_SET) or die "Can't seek";
  while () {
last if /^$/;
chomp ($_);
$msg .= "\n";
$msg .= $_;
  }
} 

open (SIG, "$ARGV[0]") or die "Can't open $ARGV[0]";
while () {
  $_ =~ s/%QUOTE%/$msg/;
  print "$_";
} 

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of the world, as Americans, as brothers and sisters with pain and with 
hurt. We are a circle of trust that cannot be broken. We are one people. 
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deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Denis Perelyubskiy

hello,

is there a way to delete all the messages with the same
message id upon entering a folder?

should i even be doing this with mutt?
(i am sure i could write an awk script to do this, but
perhaps its easier to do with mutt?)

thanks,

denis

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Re: deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
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Re: deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Dan Boger

On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 12:54:25AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Denis Perelyubskiy  [21/09/01 12:12 -0700]:
> > is there a way to delete all the messages with the same
> > message id upon entering a folder?
> 
> You could do this better with procmail (man procmailex for how to suppress
> dups).  Mutt can't IIRC check for anything other than the from address / date
> / subject (whatever's displayed in the index view).

hmmm... limiting on ~h [EMAIL PROTECTED] did
limit my index to show only this past message... ?

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Re: deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Hall Stevenson

> is there a way to delete all the messages with the
> same message id upon entering a folder?
>
> should i even be doing this with mutt?

'procmail' can do this for you. This recipe, shamelessly
stolen from Tom Gilbert's website should do it:

:0 Whc: msgid.lock
| formail -D 16384 msgid.cache
:0 a:
duplicates

You can change 'duplicates' to '/dev/null' if you trust the
recipe works.

Hall




Re: deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Denis Perelyubskiy

 * Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-Fri-01 12:28 -0700]:
 >
 >Denis Perelyubskiy  [21/09/01 12:12 -0700]:
 >> is there a way to delete all the messages with the same
 >> message id upon entering a folder?
 >
 >You could do this better with procmail (man procmailex for how to suppress
 >dups).  Mutt can't IIRC check for anything other than the from address / date
 >/ subject (whatever's displayed in the index view).

ah, great thanks.
i did not realize i could do that. i hereby revoke my
original question :) as it makes a lot more sense to do this
in procmail then in mutt (or awk for that matter :) )

thanks,

denis

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Re: deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Will Yardley

Hall Stevenson wrote:
> 'procmail' can do this for you. This recipe, shamelessly
> stolen from Tom Gilbert's website should do it:
> 
> :0 Whc: msgid.lock
> | formail -D 16384 msgid.cache
> :0 a:
> duplicates

this is metioned (as suresh said) in the procmailex man page.

> You can change 'duplicates' to '/dev/null' if you trust the
> recipe works.

or more simply do this (also in the procmailex man page).  i started
saving to a duplicates folder for a bit just to make sure and it does
seem to be pretty reliable.

:0 Wh
| formail -D 8192 ~/.procmail/msgid.cache

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Re: deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Cliff Sarginson

On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:12:24PM -0700, Denis Perelyubskiy wrote:
> hello,
> 
> is there a way to delete all the messages with the same
> message id upon entering a folder?
> 
> should i even be doing this with mutt?
> (i am sure i could write an awk script to do this, but
> perhaps its easier to do with mutt?)
> 
You can do it wiith a procmail rule


# This is supposed to prevent duplicate msgs
#
:0 Wh: msgid.lock
| formail -D 8192 msgid.cache

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Re: deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Dan Boger  [21/09/01 15:29 -0400]:
> hmmm... limiting on ~h [EMAIL PROTECTED] did
> limit my index to show only this past message... ?

Drat.  I was thinking of Tags.  You are right of course.

-suresh

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Re: deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Lars Hecking


> :0 Whc: msgid.lock
> | formail -D 16384 msgid.cache
> :0 a:
> duplicates
> 
> You can change 'duplicates' to '/dev/null' if you trust the
> recipe works.

 No, you shouldn't. Unfortunately, the procmailex man page doesn't mention
 that procmail may fail for reasons other than "... their own scripting
 capabilities". If you change duplicates to /dev/null in the recipe above
 and procmail dies right after this recipe, for whatever reasons, you face
 irrevocable mail loss.




Re: filtering out bcc with procmail

2001-09-21 Thread Nate Johnston

Paul Tremblay spake thus: (Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 04:04:53PM -0400)

> On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 09:09:43PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Right, you don't have access to the bcc. But procmail still should be
> able to read the ^To line. It seems very simple. If the ^To line (I
> mean, the actual text) does not contain *phthenry*, then send it to
> junk (and of course check it just in case).

IIRC, ^To works, but ^TO expands to a more complex regexp including CC
and To.  

Quoth the manual:

   If the regular expression contains `^TO_' it will be  sub-
   stituted by `(^((Original-)?(Resent-)?(To|Cc|Bcc)|(X-
   Envelope|Apparently(-Resent)?)-To):(.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?)',
   which should catch all destination specifications
   containing a specific address.

My pet peeve is messages that have no To or Cc, but are sent with only a
Bcc, or a false To.  To filter this you have to let the catchall rule do
it.  Sadly, there isnt an easy way to filter based on the expression "If
$x doesn't match any address I know".

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Re: filtering out bcc with procmail

2001-09-21 Thread Will Yardley

Nate Johnston wrote:
> My pet peeve is messages that have no To or Cc, but are sent with only a
> Bcc, or a false To.  To filter this you have to let the catchall rule do
> it.  Sadly, there isnt an easy way to filter based on the expression "If $x
> doesn't match any address I know".

i suppose you could use a regex to send all mail that IS addressed to you to
your inbox and then direct everything else to a different folder.

i agree with you as far as how annoying that is.  if it's a mailing list it's
happening with you can always look for some sort of header that's always
present in mails from the list and it should catch it then.

i use spambouncer so it catches a lot of the more sketchy bcc'd stuff and
puts it in my spam folder.

w


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searching with collapsed threads

2001-09-21 Thread David T-G

Hi, all --

I usually collapse all of my threads to make things easier to manage and
to make it easy to see when a thread has a new message, but that means
that I cannot search well -- or at least I think it does.

I was just looking for a particular address and searched three or four
times with different variations to try to find it, to no avail.  Then I
remembered making a big red spot on my forehead :-) about this before
and uncollapsed everything and, of course, went immediately to it.

Is there a way to search every message in a collapsed mailbox and get
any results?  I leave open, if this is unimplemented, of how to control
where the pointer lands (on the top of the thread, virtually (or actually,
in the case of tagging) on the message in the collapsed thread, on the
message in the uncollapsed thread, but hereby also make such a feature
request :-)


TIA & HAND

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Help with `par`

2001-09-21 Thread Nate Johnston

Hello all,

I am trying to use par, but I seem to be having a significant amount of
difficulty.  Par successfully mangles both my signature (below) and my
headers when I have edit_headers set.  I really like the automated
reindentation, but first I need a recipe that does not cause the
headers and sig to be mangled.

I call par as 'par 72gqr' in a shell script, and my PARINIT is 
"rTbgqR B=.,?_A_a Q=_s>|", which is the reccomended default.

Does anyone have any par configs they would reccomend?

--N.

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HELP: iso chars display as hex nums....

2001-09-21 Thread Bruno Boettcher

Hello!

the viewer of mutt displays iso signs as backslashed hex nums e.g.:
t\351l\351phone i looked into the FAQ and setted some LC vars, but it
didn't change anything (and in the FAQ they spoke of ?? signs instead of
the iso signs..) 

so what goes wrong here?

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Re: mail from specific addresses into seperate mailboxes?

2001-09-21 Thread Andreas Ntaflos

Thank you too, that'll be waht I was looking for.
I'll give it a try.

regards

On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:19:01PM -0400, Miguel Farah F. wrote:
>  Andreas Ntaflos [19/09/2001 18:35] dijo/said:
> >Hello all, 
> > I'm new to this list, althoug I've been using
> >Mutt for over a year now (without getting really deep
> >into it however :-( ) and I have a probably really 
> >dumb question.
> >
> >How do I config Mutt to have a mailbox file for lets 
> >say each of the mailing lists I am subscribed to?
> >A filter if you want, that puts mail from a specific
> >address into a specific mailbox. 
> 
> You can use procmail for this task. Set up a ~/.procmailrc file,
> containing a rule ("recipe") for each of the mailing lists, like in
> the following examples taken from my own ~/.procmailrc:
> 
> -8<8<8<8<8<8<8<-
> :0
> * ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> /home/miguel/Loreilly
> 
> :0
> * ^(To|Cc):.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> /home/miguel/Ltse
> 
> :0
> * ^To:.*([EMAIL PROTECTED]\
> |[EMAIL PROTECTED]\
> |[EMAIL PROTECTED]\
> )
> /home/miguel/Lbeard
> 
> :0
> * ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> /home/miguel/Ljms
> 
> * ^(To|Cc):.*mutt.org
> /home/miguel/Lmutt
> 
> -8<8<8<8<8<8<8<-
> 
> These rules are pretty basic, by the way. procmail has a LOT of
> functionality.
> 
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> <*>
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> - Sledge Hammer
> 

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Re: does %F index_format option in verson 1.0.1i not work right?

2001-09-21 Thread Ben Johnson

Thanks for your help.

I tried ":set ?alternates" on all the machines that have mutt installed
and with one exception I got 'alternates=""' on all machines.  The one
exception simply cleared the command line and printed nothing.  to clear
up any ambiguity I edited all the config files and explicitly set
alternates="".  The behavior has not changed in any of the
installations.

My excellent systems administrator upgraded the troubled mutt to version
Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28) at my request but that also has not changed the
behavior.

Could it be something else on my system?


--

ah! darn.  I diff'd my config files on two different systems and found
that on the affected system I had the "set hostname" line commented out.
When I uncommented that and set it to watchguard.com (the second half of
my email) it started to work fine.  pebcak!

Thanks again for your help.

- Ben



On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 07:07:24AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> Ben --
> 
> ...and then Ben Johnson said...
> % I am using Mutt 1.0.1i (2000-01-18) and I have my index_format set list
> % this...
> % 
> % set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%4l) %s"
> % 
> % the %F option does not seem to work correctly because email address
> % >From from me shows up as being from "Ben Johnson". All other
> % installations of mutt I have ever used set this column to
> % "To " when the message is from me.
> 
> That's the classic $alternates problem.  I, personally, haven't seen
> anything else that causes it.
> 
> 
> % 
> % I am using the same config file I use on all other working systems so I
> % think it must me a problem with this specific version of mutt.  Is that
> % right?  Is there an easy way to fix it?
> 
> I used 1.0* before moving to 1.2 (no time spent inthe 1.1 tree) and I
> never saw this.
> 
> I know that you use the same config file(s) everywhere, but ... :-)
> On that machine, in that mutt, type
> 
>   :set ?alternates
> 
> to see how your $alternates are set.  Look for the email address in
> question to make sure it's in there.  Perhaps even set $alternates to be
> just that address and see if %F changes for you.
> 
> 
> % 
> % Thanks very much in advance for any help!
> 
> HTH & HAND
> 
> 
> % 
> % - Ben
> 
> 
> :-D
> -- 
> David T-G  * It's easier to fight for one's principles
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Re: what makes mutt recognize mbox files?

2001-09-21 Thread Piet Delport


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On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 at 00:01:41 +0200, Erika Pacholleck wrote:
[snip]
> These are the headers in real, anonymized of course:
>  snip --- this is the very first line ---
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:46:52 -0500
> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:46:52 -0500
> From: x [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Newbie] RE:  Subject line here
>=20
> message here.
>=20
> Name of Sender
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:16:46 -0400
> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:16:46 -0400
> From: First Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Newbie]Next subject line
>=20
> message here.
> - snap --- and so on ---
>=20
> The only differences between my normal mutt headers are:
[...]
> 3. the From line has a , after the day and mine is without

I think this might be it.  I just tried it on one of my archived mboxes;
insert the comma and the message vanishes from the index, delete it and
the message is recognised.

That alone doesn't fix it in your case though... i had to rearrange the
ordering of the fields like in this example:

| From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Aug 26 02:46:52 2001 -0500

Does doing that work?  (Instead of re-arranging every single From_ line,
you can prolly just copy an existing one, BTW.  I've done this once or
twice while recovering Pine mailboxes without any apparent ill effects.)

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Re: Help with `par`

2001-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Nate Johnston  [21/09/01 14:36 -0500]:
> I call par as 'par 72gqr' in a shell script, and my PARINIT is 
> "rTbgqR B=.,?_A_a Q=_s>|", which is the reccomended default.
> Does anyone have any par configs they would reccomend?

  map V 0!}par w76

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Re: searching with collapsed threads

2001-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David T-G  [21/09/01 16:44 -0400]:
> Is there a way to search every message in a collapsed mailbox and get
> any results?  I leave open, if this is unimplemented, of how to control

Search for "grepmail" on freshmeat.

> where the pointer lands (on the top of the thread, virtually (or actually,
> in the case of tagging) on the message in the collapsed thread, on the
> message in the uncollapsed thread, but hereby also make such a feature
> request :-)
 
--suresh

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Re: what makes mutt recognize mbox files?

2001-09-21 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 04:52:07 +0200, Piet Delport wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 at 00:01:41 +0200, Erika Pacholleck wrote:
> [snip]
> > These are the headers in real, anonymized of course:

> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:46:52 -0500

> > The only differences between my normal mutt headers are:
> [...]
> > 3. the From line has a , after the day and mine is without
> 
> I think this might be it. [...]
> 
> That alone doesn't fix it in your case though... i had to rearrange the
> ordering of the fields like in this example:
> 
> | From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Aug 26 02:46:52 2001 -0500

Right, I already posted the recognized syntyx:

  From [  ] [  ] 

The timezone in the example is badly placed after the year. It is
recognized by Mutt anyway as Mutt currently does not test for garbage
after the year, but I would not count on that bug not being fixed.
 
> Does doing that work?  (Instead of re-arranging every single From_ line,
> you can prolly just copy an existing one, BTW.  I've done this once or
> twice while recovering Pine mailboxes without any apparent ill effects.)

The time stamp in From_ line is used as the receive time. It can be
displayed in the index and used for sorting and searching etc. If
you make all receice times the same, these thing will not be useful.