Re: M$ dog
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 11:08:31AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > David T-G proclaimed on mutt-users that: > > Correct - but there are several tiny m$-dog based servers like Mercury/32 > (the latest version of which has an esmtp module). You can set mercury to > smarthost (relay) through your ISP / office's actual smtp server. > I used mercury/32 for quite a long time (before I moved from OS/2 to Linux for my 'server' machine at home) and it worked pretty reliably. > [note - Mercury is freeware but closed source, from David Harris, the > author of Pegasus Mail for Windows. Both Pegasus and Mercury come in > netware versions as well. Both can be downloaded for free from > http://www.pmail.com] > My home systems still use Pegasus as the rest of the family have Win32 machines. Pegasus is one of the better Win32 MUAs in my opinion, I just don't like the multiple windows it spawns. I handles IMAP pretty well now. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
gpg test
I've been fooling around with gpg and having some trouble with it. Can anyone tell me if this message is showing up as properly signed? I may have revoked this key, I'm not sure. thanks PGP signature
Re: Cancel message writing
+ Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >mutt's cancel key is Ctrl-G; Ctrl-C will tell mutt to go away entirely. > > He wanted to cancel the message - with the q (abort) key. Not to exit > mutt. CTRL-G was what I wanted. Kai. -- + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/
How to download mutt?
Hi, Just got curious about mutt while browsing through Prof. Matloff's page. But all my attempts to download mutt went don the drain.. Most of the links don't work and if they do, ftp connection breaks down when it is half way through. ( I know having larger bandwidth helps!!) Any ideas as to where I can get the binary or the sources that can be installed / built on HP-UX 10.20 (or something similar..but HP-UX!). Thanks in advance for all the help. Regards, Ranga begin:vcard n:Nadiger;Sriranga tel;home:6720596 tel;work:2251554 Ext:1072 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Hewlett Packard India Software Operations Ltd;HP-UX (ACC) version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] adr;quoted-printable:;;#29/30, =0D=0ACunningham Road,=0D=0A;Bangalore;Karnataka;;India fn:Sriranga Nadiger end:vcard
Failing to get lock - consequences?
I just composed a mail in mutt and 'sent' it. Mutt then sat trying to get an fcntl lock, presumably on my sentmail mbox, it failed after however many tries it does. My question is - was the mail sent or not? Strangely enough when I fired up mutt again to look in the sentmail file (mutt -f +sentmail) it had a few retries at locking it again and then succeeded, showing me that the mail I had just sent wasn't saved there. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Failing to get lock - consequences?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] proclaimed on mutt-users that: >I just composed a mail in mutt and 'sent' it. Mutt then sat trying to >get an fcntl lock, presumably on my sentmail mbox, it failed after >however many tries it does. > >My question is - was the mail sent or not? Grep your MTA logs - /var/log/sendmail, /var/log/maillog or whatever for the mail. Whatever the filename (varies betn MTAs and even betn distros) it will be in /var/log anyway ;) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Sometimes I simply feel that the whole world is a cigarette and I'm the only ashtray."
Re: No @ in alias?
On 2000-07-17 21:09:21 +0200, Dirk Pirschel wrote: > @@ -767,6 +767,8 @@ > >one address), you +Mutt does not expand aliases containing the ``@'' character, since it assumes > +the alias is a whole address. Well, this is actually only partially true. You can use aliases like this one: alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] in order to get TAB-completion for frequently-used addresses. -- Thomas Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Filtering messages.
Hi! I want to make myself kind of "template" for writing mails. I think the best way would be a filter, that could put some text in a new mail. The filter is not a problem, but I wonder how to call it automatically within Mutt (when I tell Mutt to open my favourite vim :) to edit a message, but of course before the editor starts). I thought the best will be a send-hook, something like: send-hook the_pattern `call_the filter`. However it's impossible to pass the name of the file which contains the pre-message. Then came another idea. I put something like this into my config file: set editor="the_filer %s; vim %s". It works and it's possible to have different filters for different addresees (with a send-hook pattern 'set editor="filter_no_2 %s; vim %s"'). Now I just wonder if there is a "nicer" way to solve my problem? BTW: Why the '' are necessary when I define a hook and there are "" in the expression (like: send-hook mutt-users 'set attribution="sth"')? -- Bi-la kaifa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filtering messages.
Caster -- ...and then Caster said... % Hi! % I want to make myself kind of "template" for writing mails. I think the Neat idea. % best way would be a filter, that could put some text in a new mail. The % filter is not a problem, but I wonder how to call it automatically ... % set editor="the_filer %s; vim %s". It works and it's possible to have Yep; I think you'll find that that's best. % different filters for different addresees (with a send-hook pattern 'set Aren't hooks great? :-) % editor="filter_no_2 %s; vim %s"'). Now I just wonder if there is a "nicer" % way to solve my problem? No, I think that that's it. I certainly can't think of a cleaner way, although the possibility of a macro springs to mind. % BTW: Why the '' are necessary when I define a hook and there are "" in % the expression (like: send-hook mutt-users 'set attribution="sth"')? The '' protect the hook from being evaluated, while the "" (or '') insulate the spaces. You can often skip the '' but there are times when it's necessary. % % -- % Bi-la kaifa % mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: gpg
Dale -- ...and then Dale Morris said... % Apologies if this is showing up twice. I'm having trouble with my gpg % signature, can anyone tell me if this is appearing as signed? I was % having problems and I may have revoked this key. I posted this % message earlier, but it didn't go to the list. Oops; I mean that this one *isn't* signed; I'm so used to the pgp output at the top that I missed it. The other message was definitely signed, though. % % thanks dale :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: gpg
Dale -- ...and then Dale Morris said... % Apologies if this is showing up twice. I'm having trouble with my gpg % signature, can anyone tell me if this is appearing as signed? I was % having problems and I may have revoked this key. I posted this % message earlier, but it didn't go to the list. Got 'em both. This one looks signed, too. % % thanks dale :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: No @ in alias?
Thomas, et al -- ...and then Thomas Roessler said... % On 2000-07-17 21:09:21 +0200, Dirk Pirschel wrote: % % > @@ -767,6 +767,8 @@ % > % > +Mutt does not expand aliases containing the ``@'' character, since it assumes % > +the alias is a whole address. % % Well, this is actually only partially true. You can use % aliases like this one: % % alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] % % in order to get TAB-completion for frequently-used % addresses. How is this different from specifying alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] then? What am I missing? % % -- % Thomas Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TIA :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: How to download mutt?
Sriranga -- ...and then Sriranga Nadiger said... % Hi, % % Just got curious about mutt while browsing through % Prof. Matloff's Who's Prof. Matloff? % page. But all my attempts to download mutt went don the % drain.. % Most of the links don't work and if they do, ftp How odd... Do you mean links from his page or links from www.mutt.org? I know that our webmaster is constantly combing for dead links and such, and I'd be surprised if you had that many problems with the primary site. % connection breaks % down when it is half way through. ( I know having % larger bandwidth % helps!!) Well, that's true :-) The compressed tarball for 1.2.4 is under 2M, but I'd be happy to split it up into smaller chunks for you to pull down via http if you would like. Just let me know. % % Any ideas as to where I can get the binary or the % sources that can be % installed / built on HP-UX 10.20 (or something % similar..but HP-UX!). mutt does build under HP-UX, and I think that the very newer versions even do so cleanly with the stock make. I don't know about binaries. % % Thanks in advance for all the help. HTH & HAND % % Regards, % Ranga % :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: gpg test
Dale -- ...and then Dale Morris said... % I've been fooling around with gpg and having some trouble with it. Can % anyone tell me if this message is showing up as properly signed? I may Sure looks like it to me. % have revoked this key, I'm not sure. Doesn't look like it, but I also don't know what happens when you try to sign with a revoked key. Why don't you whip up a test key, revoke it, and then try it? % thanks HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: gpg test
Hi, Dale Morris typed: > I've been fooling around with gpg and having some trouble with it. Can > anyone tell me if this message is showing up as properly signed? I may > have revoked this key, I'm not sure. Yup, it's properly signed: [-- PGP output follows (current time: Tue Jul 18 16:06:23 2000) --] gpg: Signature made Tue 18 Jul 2000 03:55:27 AM IST using DSA key ID 15094E24 gpg: requesting key 15094E24 from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net ... gpg: key 15094E24: public key imported gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: imported: 1 gpg: Good signature from "Dale Morris (simplify) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. gpg: Fingerprint: 7176 1203 A0D4 66AF 8CC2 CAA2 D28A 65DA 1509 4E24 [-- End of PGP output --] -- Mrinal Kalakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://mrinal.dhs.org/ Linux 2.2.12-20 || PGP:B1E86F5B || Mutt 1.2i (2000-05-09) || VIM 5.6 --
Re: problems with pgp-hook
Hi, mutt-users -- ...and then David Lebel said... % % pgp-hook (usera|userb) 42F2F6F3 % % I still get a menu showing my all the uids for the selected key, thus, % still requiring me to press enter. I thought that when using % pgp-hook, I would override all this a immediatly encrypt/sign the mail % and send it out. Yeah. What he said. % % What gives? Eagerly awaiting answers... % % Ciao, % ...David % % -- % // david lebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> // nobiaze' Inc. % // http://www.lebel.org/ // http://www.nobiaze.com/ % // pgp: 3633 6999 D47E 73ED 099F // vox: 514.943.3045 % 4341 08A4 8E48 EF56 61D1 // " don't panic! " :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: How to download mutt?
David T-G proclaimed on mutt-users that: >% Just got curious about mutt while browsing through >% Prof. Matloff's > Prof Norm Matloff has written a really good Unix tutorial (and a linux installation tutorial as well) - http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/unix.html ^ >Who's Prof. Matloff? So obvious he's on the faculty of the Univ of California at Davis ;) >How odd... Do you mean links from his page or links from www.mutt.org? >I know that our webmaster is constantly combing for dead links and such, >and I'd be surprised if you had that many problems with the primary site. This chap is from wipro.com - that means the guy is in India. I'd imagine that the ping times from india to any part of europe are atrocious (in fact, I *know* they are atrocious, and thank $deity suse has mirrors in the states and some asian countries) ;) >Well, that's true :-) The compressed tarball for 1.2.4 is under 2M, but >I'd be happy to split it up into smaller chunks for you to pull down via >http if you would like. Just let me know. What about using cvs? ;) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'I believe in getting into hot water; it keeps you clean." -- G. K. Chesterton
Re: M$ dog
* John Saylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000717 21:50]: > Has anyone done anything about porting mutt to the windows world? Someone has reportedly ported mutt and sendmail to Cygwin (see http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin). Check out http://www.fiction.net/blong/programs/mutt/ for the mutt patch. I don't use either yet, but that's because I grab all my mail from UNIX machines at work.
codepages aliases
Hey everyone, Guess I have missed it in the manual, but how do I alias codepages in 1.2 and above? TIA. -- Best regards, Leonid Mamtchenkov System administrator J.F.Services Ltd. (Limassol, Cyprus) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to download mutt?
Hi David, Thanks so much for your reply. > Who's Prof. Matloff? Prof. Matlof? I have never met him. But heard that he maintains a nice page on UNIX : http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/unix.html > How odd... Do you mean links from his page or links from www.mutt.org? > I know that our webmaster is constantly combing for dead links and such, > and I'd be surprised if you had that many problems with the primary site. All I tried was to save from the link via a ftp proxy. The data Xfer gets stalled after transferring 1K. > Well, that's true :-) The compressed tarball for 1.2.4 is under 2M, but > I'd be happy to split it up into smaller chunks for you to pull down via > http if you would like. Just let me know. Could you please put it together so that I can pull it out via HTTP. Thanks a ton for this great favor. > mutt does build under HP-UX, and I think that the very newer versions > even do so cleanly with the stock make. I don't know about binaries. I was interested in its the sources of mutt. Just thought will take a look at those. It will be great if I can get a tar ball with all the sources in them. But then, what is the end for this wish list? :-) Thanks a lot. Waiting to get into Mutt, Ranga begin:vcard n:Nadiger;Sriranga tel;home:6720596 tel;work:2251554 Ext:1072 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Hewlett Packard India Software Operations Ltd;HP-UX (ACC) version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] adr;quoted-printable:;;#29/30, =0D=0ACunningham Road,=0D=0A;Bangalore;Karnataka;;India fn:Sriranga Nadiger end:vcard
Re: How to download mutt?
Ranga -- ...and then Sriranga Nadiger said... % Hi David, % % Thanks so much for your reply. You're welcome! % % > Who's Prof. Matloff? % % Prof. Matlof? I have never met him. But heard that he maintains % a nice page on UNIX : % % http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/unix.html Ahhh... % % > How odd... Do you mean links from his page or links from www.mutt.org? % > I know that our webmaster is constantly combing for dead links and such, % > and I'd be surprised if you had that many problems with the primary site. % % All I tried was to save from the link via a ftp proxy. The data % Xfer gets stalled after transferring 1K. Hmmph. Well, no problem, then. % % > Well, that's true :-) The compressed tarball for 1.2.4 is under 2M, but % > I'd be happy to split it up into smaller chunks for you to pull down via % > http if you would like. Just let me know. % % Could you please put it together so that I can pull it out via HTTP. Thanks % a ton for this great favor. You're very welcome. Surf on over to http://mutt.sector13.org/slices.html and pick up whatever version suits your taste. I trust you won't need 64k slices, but let me know if you do... % % > mutt does build under HP-UX, and I think that the very newer versions % > even do so cleanly with the stock make. I don't know about binaries. % % I was interested in its the sources of mutt. Just thought will take a look % at those. It will be great if I can get a tar ball with all the sources in them. Happy to help! % % But then, what is the end for this wish list? :-) Just a few more lines, it looks like to me ;-) % % Thanks a lot. % % Waiting to get into Mutt, % Ranga % :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: How to download mutt?
Suresh -- ...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said... % David T-G proclaimed on mutt-users that: % % >% Just got curious about mutt while browsing through % >% Prof. Matloff's % > % % Prof Norm Matloff has written a really good Unix tutorial (and a linux % installation tutorial as well) - % % http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/unix.html %^ % % >Who's Prof. Matloff? % % So obvious he's on the faculty of the Univ of California at Davis ;) Well, *now* he tells me :-) % % >How odd... Do you mean links from his page or links from www.mutt.org? % >I know that our webmaster is constantly combing for dead links and such, % >and I'd be surprised if you had that many problems with the primary site. % % This chap is from wipro.com - that means the guy is in India. I'd imagine I saw that. % that the ping times from india to any part of europe are atrocious (in Yeah, I know. % fact, I *know* they are atrocious, and thank $deity suse has mirrors in % the states and some asian countries) ;) Sure enough! % % >Well, that's true :-) The compressed tarball for 1.2.4 is under 2M, but % >I'd be happy to split it up into smaller chunks for you to pull down via % >http if you would like. Just let me know. % % What about using cvs? ;) I still don't know how that stuff works :-) % % -- % Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] % 'I believe in getting into hot water; it keeps you clean." % -- G. K. Chesterton :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
compiling mutt w/o changing language
Hi folks, I just compiled mutt on a box with German language enabled and I found out that a) mutt in German sux (no, not less this time :) b) somehow mutt doesn't manage to get theese Umlauts right it say "unverndert" instead of "unverändert" Is there a way to tell mutt not to translate this stuff? My mutt 1.1.14 on this box says "unchanged" instad and I quite like it this way. Kai -- x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x Kai Blin(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Webmaster Inst. of Human Genetics Dept. of Molecular Genetics Wilhelmstr 27 phone (49)7071-2974890 D 72074 Tuebingen, Germany fax (49)7071-295233 http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/uni/thm/molgen/molgen.html Do molecular biologists wear designer genes? x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x
gpg and clearsigning in 1.2.4
Hi, folks --
I'm finally up to speed using mutt 1.2.4i and with a new gpg-generated
key (uploaded to wwwkeys.{us,eu}.pgp.net, though BAL's keyserver appears
to be dead now), and everything seems to be working peachily. Woo hoo!
I trust that this message will be signed with my 4k key, whose print is
D26E AFA7 1E48 DFD5 CA95 6D39 5127 299A B66D 9EEA
but we'll see when it goes out.
Now to figure out how to manage keys; thank heavens gpg at least lets you
have multiple keyrings (though I don't yet have the keys dropping into
the catch-all ring as expected...).
I see and have read the manual section 6.3.120 (hey, BTW, is the
reference section supposed to be arranged alphabetically? 'cuz it
isn't entirely so...) but don't see a command key or function to call
pgp_clearsign_command. How do I clearsign a message -- presuming,
of course, that I would want to risk the wrath of all the net and do so?
:-D
--
David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles
(play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie
(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0.
Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh*
PGP signature
Re: gpg and clearsigning in 1.2.4
Christian, et al -- ...and then Christian v. Mueffling said... % On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 08:57:18AM -0400, David T-G wrote: % % > How do I clearsign a message -- presuming, of course, that I would % > want to risk the wrath of all the net and do so? % % set pgp_create_traditional=yes Aha! Gotcha! % % in your .muttrc Thanks a bunch :-) % % chris % -- % "Don't move! Or I'll fill you full of... little yellow bolts of light!" % - Crichton :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: No @ in alias?
On 2000-07-18 06:38:43 -0400, David T-G wrote: > alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your variant will only be replaced if you actually reach the alias menu. -- Thomas Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: M$ dog
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 10:18:25PM -0400, David T-G wrote: > Bring in your *NIX laptop instead :-) With mutt's IMAP support, you can > even talk to the MS Exchange server and not have to use LookOut! like the > rest of your coworkers! Heh... I'm on a UNIX workstation while a lot of people around me are on NT running LookOut. They get so annoyed when their proprietary M$ RTF messages don't look snazzy when they get to me. I also laughed my ass off when they all went down due to the Iloveyou virus. ;-) Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, 1Z22, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com:8080
Re: M$ dog
Michael Soulier proclaimed on mutt-users that: >Heh... I'm on a UNIX workstation while a lot of people around me are on NT >running LookOut. They get so annoyed when their proprietary M$ RTF messages >don't look snazzy when they get to me. I also laughed my ass off when they all >went down due to the Iloveyou virus. ;-) Why am I not surprised? ;) All the techies are on pine here and all the others use outhouse 97. I'm trying to convert the techies to mutt ... and quite a few of them like it, sort of ;) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] The giraffe you thought you offended last week is willing to be nuzzled today.
'&' character?
What does the ampersand (&) character on the subject line mean when sorting by threads? For instance: 5219 + 07/12 Perez, Dick ( 0) &*>RE: Web page 5220 + 07/13 Perez, Dick ( 0) t*>RE: Web page 5221 + 07/13 Perez, Dick ( 0) m*>RE: Web page Well, the "t" and "m" are actually extended ASCII bar characters, but that "&" is as it appears. Can anyone shed light on what this means? (just to satisfy curiosity) -- Bob BellCompaq Computer Corporation Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3/U14 TruCluster GroupNashua, NH 03062-2698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595
'&' character?
What does the ampersand (&) character on the subject line mean when sorting by threads? For instance: 5219 + 07/12 Perez, Dick ( 0) &*>RE: Web page 5220 + 07/13 Perez, Dick ( 0) t*>RE: Web page 5221 + 07/13 Perez, Dick ( 0) m*>RE: Web page Well, the "t" and "m" are actually extended ASCII bar characters, but that "&" is as it appears. Can anyone shed light on what this means? (just to satisfy curiosity) -- Bob BellCompaq Computer Corporation Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3/U14 TruCluster GroupNashua, NH 03062-2698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595
Re: '&' character?
Bob -- Did you know that you sent two messages that looked similar but truly were different? ...and then Bob Bell said... % What does the ampersand (&) character on the subject line mean % when sorting by threads? For instance: It means, as far as I've seen, that your threads are attached but that there are some referenced messages missing. I see this when I apply a limit to a threaded display and some messages go away, though that doesn't appear to be the obvious case here. % % 5219 + 07/12 Perez, Dick ( 0) &*>RE: Web page % 5220 + 07/13 Perez, Dick ( 0) t*>RE: Web page % 5221 + 07/13 Perez, Dick ( 0) m*>RE: Web page % % Well, the "t" and "m" are actually extended ASCII bar characters, % but that "&" is as it appears. Can anyone shed light on what this % means? (just to satisfy curiosity) I tried digging thru the manual and couldn't find it, believe it or not. Let's see what other folks have to say... % % -- % Bob Bell Compaq Computer Corporation % Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3/U14 % TruCluster Group Nashua, NH 03062-2698 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595 :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: Filtering messages.
Hello Mutt Users! On wto 18 lip 2000 06:29:01 GMT David T-G wrote: > Aren't hooks great? :-) Yes, they surely are :) > although the possibility of a macro springs to mind. Can send-hook call macros? -- Bi-la kaifa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verifying signatures and other (problems?) with GPG
I have noticed a bit annoying behaviour when I set the automatic verify of PGP signatures. It's because the screen is not refreshed after that. The worst is when I don't have someone's key in my keyring: I see two status bars then :( When I got the desired key, it's just one "S" instead of "-" on the status bar. "Refresh screen" command is the cure, but is there any way to call it automatically (maybe some hack in pgp_verify_command?)? I have also another problem. If I set the automatic verify variable to "no", it's not possible to verify somebody's sign! There's no such command (and no such function in the manual, so I can't bind it)! Of course I can still define a macro piping the message to gpg, but I would like to do it in more civilized way :) The same thing is with other pgp_commands -- for example pgp_getkeys_command. It's defined, but I can't call it! -- Bi-la kaifa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Display of german 8 bit characters (Umlaute)
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 11:23:29PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: > Hi! > > Stephan Jaensch muttered: > > There's one issue tho that I am not able to resolve: The german > > hi-ascii characters (Umlaute, like äöü) are not displayed correctly > > in the pager, mutt places '?' there instead. > > Did you install charmaps-0.0.tar.gz? (see www.mutt.org) > > set charset="iso-8859-1" > for the encoding. > > Mutt correctly displays Umlaute. Probably there's something wrong with > the message. I saw for example this one in a german mail (aol mailer) > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > VERY useful! Since mutt does what it's told - there are no öäü in > us-ascii - it shows '?' instead. > Maybe it's something similar? I've encountered a similar situation... I thought umlautes and stuff worked right earlier, but they don't now. Only on the linux machines, under X. Opening an xterm and rlogin'ing/ssh'ing in to solaris boxes to run mutt there works fine. Installing charmaps-0.0 didn't fix things. Nor setting LANG and LC_CTYPE. Running old versions doesn't seem to work, so it's possible something changed somewhere. The only significant difference I've found in configurations is that my Solaris version has +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET and the Linux version has -HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET I notice vim and more don't have problems, so |more works ok for the rare occaisions it affects my life. Ben -- Benjamin Korvemaker Windows has detected that a gnat has farted [EMAIL PROTECTED] near your computer. Press any key to reboot.
Re: '&' character?
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 01:07:12PM -0400, David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you know that you sent two messages that looked similar but truly > were different? Yes. Somehow I became unsubscribed, and I thought the first message was supposed to bounce, so I resent it after I resubscribed. Apparently it went through anyway. > > ...and then Bob Bell said... > % What does the ampersand (&) character on the subject line mean > % when sorting by threads? For instance: > > It means, as far as I've seen, that your threads are attached but that > there are some referenced messages missing. I see this when I apply a > limit to a threaded display and some messages go away, though that > doesn't appear to be the obvious case here. Actually, I was limiting some messages. So I suppose it means that it's part of a thread, but the full thread is not displayed? -- Bob BellCompaq Computer Corporation Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3/U14 TruCluster GroupNashua, NH 03062-2698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595
Re: '&' character?
Bob -- ...and then Bob Bell said... % On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 01:07:12PM -0400, David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: % > Did you know that you sent two messages that looked similar but truly % > were different? % % Yes. Somehow I became unsubscribed, and I thought the first % message was supposed to bounce, so I resent it after I resubscribed. % Apparently it went through anyway. Well, as long as you know and don't have to tie your MTA to a tree and shoot it :-) % % > % > ...and then Bob Bell said... % > % What does the ampersand (&) character on the subject line mean % > % when sorting by threads? For instance: % > % > It means, as far as I've seen, that your threads are attached but that % > there are some referenced messages missing. I see this when I apply a % > limit to a threaded display and some messages go away, though that % > doesn't appear to be the obvious case here. % % Actually, I was limiting some messages. So I suppose it means Ah! Well, that would do it, then. % that it's part of a thread, but the full thread is not displayed? Yep. % % -- % Bob Bell Compaq Computer Corporation % Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3/U14 % TruCluster Group Nashua, NH 03062-2698 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595 :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: Filtering messages.
Caster -- ...and then Caster said... % Hello Mutt Users! % On wto 18 lip 2000 06:29:01 GMT David T-G wrote: % % > Aren't hooks great? :-) % % Yes, they surely are :) *grin* % % > although the possibility of a macro springs to mind. % % Can send-hook call macros? I don't *think* so, but you could specify a push command and push the macro keystrokes... % % -- % Bi-la kaifa % mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
pgp_encrypt_self with 1.2.4 and gpg
Hi, folks -- I am very dismayed to find that messages that I send out, even though I have specified set pgp_encrypt_only_command="pgpewrap gpg -v --batch --output - --encrypt --textmode --armor --always-trust -- -r B66D9EEA %r -- %f" set pgp_encrypt_sign_command="pgpewrap gpg --passphrase-fd 0 -v --batch --output - --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust -- -r B66D9EEA %r -- %f" where B66D9EEA is my key, are encrypted for the other recipient only. What do I need to do to ensure that I can read my own outgoing messages? [No, I'm not interested in fcc_clear; thanks.] Somewhat desperately, :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: pgp_encrypt_self with 1.2.4 and gpg
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 02:42:25PM -0400, David T-G muttered: > Hi, folks -- > > I am very dismayed to find that messages that I send out, even though I > have specified > > set pgp_encrypt_only_command="pgpewrap gpg -v --batch --output - --encrypt >--textmode --armor --always-trust -- -r B66D9EEA %r -- %f" > set pgp_encrypt_sign_command="pgpewrap gpg --passphrase-fd 0 -v --batch --output - >--encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust -- -r B66D9EEA %r -- %f" > > where B66D9EEA is my key, are encrypted for the other recipient only. > > What do I need to do to ensure that I can read my own outgoing messages? > [No, I'm not interested in fcc_clear; thanks.] Your ~/.gnupg/options file should contain: # Always encrypt to myself. encrypt-to xx -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley PGP signature
