Re: mutt 1.9.3 released

2018-01-31 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 07:48:12AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 30Jan2018 12:30, Kevin J. McCarthy  wrote:
> >Brendan mentioned flea usage was pretty low, so I don't think this will
> >be a huge impediment.
> 
> It might be good to make flea just say "please submit bugs over
> here". Avoiding confusion.

That's really what I meant by "transition" FWIW... [I agree.]

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Re: URL in "mutt -v" output

2018-01-31 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 04:20:44AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2018-01-30 12:14:18 -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:54:39PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> > > > On the other hand, urxvt and gnome-terminal both select the URL
> > > > properly, and I don't believe it's ambiguous.  
> > > 
> > > My gnome-terminal includes the '.' character.
> > 
> > Okay, I'll make the change then.  I'd prefer Vincent's suggestion
> > though, because it flows better with the surrounding text in `mutt -v`,
> > and it's a lot easier to make the change across all the files.
> 
> The URL on a separate line as suggested by Derek may be better
> for translations (at least the French one), for which the text
> is longer, so that it fits on 80 columns.

As a compromise, I will add the <> delimiters in the stable branch, so
it can be included in the next stable release without requiring
translator updates.

Derek's suggestion requires some word changes that will need translator
updates.  I'll post a patch here for that change, and when we all agree,
will commit that to the master branch.

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Re: URL in "mutt -v" output

2018-01-31 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 02:05:32PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> Derek's suggestion requires some word changes that will need translator
> updates.  I'll post a patch here for that change, and when we all agree,
> will commit that to the master branch.

Attached is a patch to master with the suggested change.  I would
suggest applying it and looking at the output of `mutt -v` and `mutt
-vv`.

It may also be useful to look at some of the translation files.  Some of
them have rearranged the sentence order, such as ca.po, da.po, es.po,
eu.po, hu.po, ja.po, etc.

I'd appreciate feedback about how the revised sentence structure would
affect those translations, if anyone can comment.

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diff --git a/main.c b/main.c
index 5b17a12d..35028971 100644
--- a/main.c
+++ b/main.c
@@ -67,7 +67,8 @@
 
 static const char *ReachingUs = N_("\
 To contact the developers, please mail to .\n\
-To report a bug, please visit .\n");
+To report a bug, please contact the Mutt maintainers via gitlab:\n\
+https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt/issues";);
 
 static const char *Notice = N_("\
 Copyright (C) 1996-2016 Michael R. Elkins and others.\n\


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Re: URL in "mutt -v" output

2018-01-31 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 02:05:32PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> Derek's suggestion requires some word changes that will need translator
> updates.  I'll post a patch here for that change, and when we all agree,
> will commit that to the master branch.

FWIW, I chose that exact formatting because it completely obviates the
need for any extraneous (non-URL) characters near the URL itself. It
is unambiguous and does not beg for grammatical adornments or visual
separators, which might trip up either the human user or the user's
software.  I doubt the difference really warrants even the amount of
discussion we've already had about it... ;-)

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Re: URL in "mutt -v" output

2018-01-31 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 05:30:21PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 02:05:32PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> > Derek's suggestion requires some word changes that will need translator
> > updates.  I'll post a patch here for that change, and when we all agree,
> > will commit that to the master branch.
> 
> FWIW, I chose that exact formatting because it completely obviates the
> need for any extraneous (non-URL) characters near the URL itself. It
> is unambiguous and does not beg for grammatical adornments or visual
> separators, which might trip up either the human user or the user's
> software.  I doubt the difference really warrants even the amount of
> discussion we've already had about it... ;-)

Well, I appreciate your feedback and suggestions.  If you and Vincent
can find a version you like, I'm happy to commit that.  :-)

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