Re: [mono-android] Using a webservice

2012-03-24 Thread Paul Johnson 

Hi,


Is logcat enabled on the physical device? My app works fine on the
emulator, not a physical device


Yes, logcat is available on both emulators and physical devices.


Thanks for that.

Logcat is showing something odd on the device which isn't showing on the 
emulator...


(this is a slightly shortened version as the stuff before this was just 
debug from every other process going)


8-->
I/monodroid-gc(  618): environment supports jni NewWeakGlobalRef
D/PowerManagerService( 2711): onSensorChanged: light value: 1
I/AudioFlinger( 2599): stop output streamType (0, 1) for 1
W/WindowManager( 2711): Window Window{40995cf8 
com.sec.android.app.twlauncher/com.sec.android.app.twlauncher.Launcher 
paused=false} destroyed surface 
Surface(name=com.sec.android.app.twlauncher/com.sec.android.app.twlauncher.Launcher, 
identity=-1, mNativeSurface=0), session Session{409daca8 uid 10029}
W/WindowManager( 2711): Window Window{40a6af28 SurfaceView paused=false} 
destroyed surface Surface(name=SurfaceView, identity=-1, 
mNativeSurface=0), session Session{409daca8 uid 10029}

D/GlassLockScreenMusicWidget( 2711): handleStopMarquee()
D/dalvikvm(  618): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 52K, 50% free 2742K/5379K, 
external 0K/0K, paused 16ms
D/dalvikvm(  618): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 1K, 50% free 2742K/5379K, 
external 1K/513K, paused 16ms

I/Kineto::main(15902): WCMGetLinkMetricsCbk iRSSI:-50
E/KINETO  (15902): KLOG004- IPA_LinkMetric: -50 -49 0 0 0 0x00
E/KINETO  (15902): KLOG0B4- IPA_ZoneMetric: 8 8 -49 -75 -85 1 0x001 0 0
D/dalvikvm(  618): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed <1K, 50% free 2742K/5379K, 
external 1751K/2263K, paused 15ms

E/yamaha::media::Parameters( 2599): SalesCode = ORA
D/dalvikvm(  618): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 8K, 49% free 2769K/5379K, 
external 2468K/2494K, paused 16ms
I/WindowOrientationListener( 2711): orientation = 359.98334 Tilt = 
37.463734 -- 0 ,  8 ,  6

I/mono-stdout(  618): xs = 432
I/mono-stdout(  618): 90% width = 432, xAcross = 480
I/WindowManager( 2711):   CREATE SURFACE 
Surface(name=oqhra.android/oqhra_android.oqhra_android, identity=363, 
mNativeSurface=0) IN SESSION android.view.SurfaceSession@409e5d50: 
pid=618 format=-1 flags=0x0 / Window{40a0e330 
oqhra.android/oqhra_android.oqhra_android paused=false}
D/CLIPBOARD( 2948): Hide Clipboard dialog at Starting input: finished by 
someone else... !
I/WindowOrientationListener( 2711): orientation = 358.84888 Tilt = 
37.529194 -- 0 ,  7 ,  5
I/ActivityManager( 2711): Displayed 
oqhra.android/oqhra_android.oqhra_android: +1s47ms
D/CLIPBOARD(  618): Hide Clipboard dialog at Starting input: finished by 
someone else... !

I/GLThread( 2948): onPause tid=19
I/Main thread( 2948): onPause waiting for mPaused.
I/GLThread( 2948): mPaused is now true tid=19
W/WindowManager( 2711): Window Window{4056c560 Starting oqhra.android 
paused=false} destroyed surface Surface(name=Starting oqhra.android, 
identity=-1, mNativeSurface=0), session Session{409c84f0 uid 1000}

D/PowerManagerService( 2711): onSensorChanged: light value: 1
W/PowerManagerService( 2711): Timer 0x7->0x3|0x0
E/lights  ( 2711): write_int: path 
/sys/devices/virtual/misc/melfas_touchkey/brightness, value 2

I/PowerManagerService( 2711): Ulight 7->3|0
D/PowerManagerService( 2711): setLightBrightness : mButtonLight : 0
I/WifiService( 2711): pre-persistedWifiState is 1
I/WifiService( 2711): isAirplaneModeOn is 0
I/WindowOrientationListener( 2711): orientation = 359.0468 Tilt = 
28.39012 -- 0 ,  8 ,  4

E/BatteryService( 2711): TMU status = 0
D/BatteryService( 2711): update start
D/BatteryService( 2711): updateBattery level:57 scale:100 status:2 
health:2 present:true voltage: 3907 temperature: 290 technology: Li-ion 
AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302233

D/PhoneUtils( 2892): updateRAFT() : FactoryMode : false
I/WifiService( 2711): pre-persistedWifiState is 1
I/StatusBarPolicy( 2861): BAT. S:2 H:2
I/WifiService( 2711): isAirplaneModeOn is 0
I/WindowOrientationListener( 2711): orientation = 1.6021729 Tilt = 
25.242617 -- 0 ,  9 ,  4

I/ALSAModule( 2599): Terminated ALSA PLAYBACK device hifi
D/PowerManagerService( 2711): onSensorChanged: light value: 1
E/yamaha::media::Parameters( 2599): SalesCode = ORA
I/WindowOrientationListener( 2711): orientation = 358.9167 Tilt = 
30.459404 -- 0 ,  8 ,  5

V/WifiMonitor( 2711): Event [ SCAN-RESULTS ]
I/Kineto::wifi(15902): onReceive Enter
I/Kineto::wifi(15902): onReceive SCANNING
I/Kineto::main(15902): Kineto: HandleWifiChangeStatus val: 5
I/Kineto::main(15902): Kineto: Wifiscanning
I/wpa_supplicant(32463): SCAN_RESULTS : [1]
I/wpa_supplicant(32463): SCAN_RESULTS : [1]
I/wpa_supplicant(32463): SCAN_RESULTS : [1]
I/Kineto::wifi(15902): onReceive Exit
I/wpa_supplicant(32463): SCAN_RESULTS : [1]
D/dalvikvm(14056): GC_CONCURRENT freed 437K, 43% free 3921K/6855K, 
external 0K/0K, paused 2ms+3ms
I/WindowOrientationListener( 2711): orientation = 358.55472 Tilt = 
27.327717 -- 0 ,  8 ,  4

I/Kineto::main(15902): WCMGetLinkMetricsCbk iRSSI:-44
E/KINETO  (1590

Re: [mono-android] Log Internet- possible?

2012-03-24 Thread Paul Johnson 

Hi,


I'm sorry if this question is dumb.  I'm new to Android development.  I want
to write an app that does nothing more than log Internet history.  Ideally,
it would log regardless of what browser/app was being used.
Is that possible?  If so, can someone please point me in the right
direction?


I'm not too sure, but a universal listener bound to port 80 might 
work... No idea how to implement it though - or even really wish to do it!


Paul
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Re: [mono-android] Using a webservice

2012-03-24 Thread Paul Johnson 

Hi,

Just as an addendum to my point - here's the calling code

public void getUpcomingRacesCallBack(string track, 
Action> callback)

{
var tableData = new List();
if (checkForNetwork(true) != true)
{
tableData[0].PostTime = "No network available";
callback(tableData);
}
else
{
POHWS.webservice.Service1 Service3 = new 
POHWS.webservice.Service1();

try
{
Service3.BeginGetUpcomingRacesList(track, 
delegate(IAsyncResult iar)

{
tableData = 
Service3.EndGetUpcomingRacesList(iar).ToList();


Android.App.Application.SynchronizationContext.Post(delegate
{
if (tableData == null)
{
tableData[0].PostTime = "No Upcoming 
Races Found within the next 7 days";

callback(tableData);
}
else
{
callback(tableData);
}
}, null);
}, null);
}
catch (Exception oe)
{
tableData[0].PostTime = oe.ToString();
callback(tableData);
}
}
}

Paul
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Re: [mono-android] r17 sdk

2012-03-24 Thread Miha Markic 
If I understood properly x86 simulator (guest) is faster but ARM one is still 
slow as hell.
Perhaps we could use x86 guest for debugging as you noticed (if it is really 
that fast).

Miha

From: monodroid-boun...@lists.ximian.com 
[mailto:monodroid-boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Wally McClure
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 1:31 AM
To: monodroid@lists.ximian.com
Subject: [mono-android] r17 sdk

Does the r17 sdk from google for android do anything for me?  I thought that 
there was suppossed to be some more x86 support which I would guess would help 
in the area of the debugger and general performance.

Wally
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Re: [mono-android] r17 sdk

2012-03-24 Thread Wally McClure 

I was experimenting with this last night.  Debugging in arm was painful and not 
reliable.  Debugging in x86 was better. Wally
 From: m...@rthand.com
To: monodroid@lists.ximian.com
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 16:41:49 +
Subject: Re: [mono-android] r17 sdk











If I understood properly x86 simulator (guest) is faster but ARM one is still 
slow as hell.
Perhaps we could use x86 guest for debugging as you noticed (if it is really 
that fast).
 
Miha
 


From: monodroid-boun...@lists.ximian.com 
[mailto:monodroid-boun...@lists.ximian.com]
On Behalf Of Wally McClure

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 1:31 AM

To: monodroid@lists.ximian.com

Subject: [mono-android] r17 sdk


 

Does the r17 sdk from google for android do anything for me?  I thought that 
there was suppossed to be some more x86 support which I would guess would help 
in
 the area of the debugger and general performance.  

 

Wally





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[mono-android] r17 x86 support

2012-03-24 Thread Wally McClure 




I tried the r17 download and with some help of Chris Hardy, I was able to get 
the x86 Emulator up and running on my laptop running Win7 x64.  I tried to 
repeat the process today on a desktop running Win7 x64.  I have an emulator 
session setup running x86.  I have installed and have the Intel Execution 
Manager up and running.  The app seems to build ok.  When I attemp to deploy, I 
get the error below.  Any thoughts on this?   C:\Program Files 
(x86)\MSBuild\Novell\mandroid.exe -v --nosign 
--sdk-dir="C:\Android\android-sdk" --builddir="C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono 
for Android - 
AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\obj\Debug\android"
 --framework-dir="C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference 
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v2.2" --framework-dir="C:\Program 
Files (x86)\Reference Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0" 
-S="C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android - 
AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\obj\Debug\res"
 --package="TestApplication.TestApplication"   --nolink --abi="armeabi;x86" 
--java-sdk-dir="C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_29" --debug 
--sdk-platform="8" "C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android - 
AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\bin\Debug\TestApplication.dll"
 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference 
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v2.2\Mono.Android.dll" "C:\Program 
Files (x86)\Reference 
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\mscorlib.dll" "C:\Program Files 
(x86)\Reference 
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.Core.dll" "C:\Program 
Files (x86)\Reference 
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.dll" "C:\Program Files 
(x86)\Reference Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.Xml.dll" 
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference 
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.Xml.Linq.dll" 
monodroid : error 1: System.InvalidOperationException: Unsupported 
configuration: Could not load resource 'libmono-android.shared.x86-emu.so'. 
[C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android - 
AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\TestApplication.csproj]
at Monodroid.ApkBuilder.CreateApkFile (System.String target, 
Monodroid.Arguments args) [0x0] in :0 
at Monodroid.Toolbox.InvokeApkbuilder (System.String target) [0x0] in 
:0 
at Monodroid.Droidinator.CreateApk () [0x0] in :0 
at Monodroid.MainClass.Main (System.String[] argv) [0x0] in :0 
Done Building Project "C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android - 
AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\TestApplication.csproj"
 (SignAndroidPackage target(s)) -- FAILED.
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Re: [mono-android] r17 x86 support

2012-03-24 Thread Jonathan Pobst 

Is it a full version of MFA?

We don't have an emulator-only version of the runtime for eval version yet.

Jonathan


On 3/24/2012 2:51 PM, Wally McClure wrote:

I tried the r17 download and with some help of Chris Hardy, I was able
to get the x86 Emulator up and running on my laptop running Win7 x64. I
tried to repeat the process today on a desktop running Win7 x64. I have
an emulator session setup running x86. I have installed and have the
Intel Execution Manager up and running. The app seems to build ok. When
I attemp to deploy, I get the error below. Any thoughts on this?

C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Novell\mandroid.exe -v --nosign
--sdk-dir="C:\Android\android-sdk"
--builddir="C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android -
AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\obj\Debug\android"
--framework-dir="C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v2.2"
--framework-dir="C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0"
-S="C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android -
AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\obj\Debug\res"
--package="TestApplication.TestApplication" --nolink --abi="armeabi;x86"
--java-sdk-dir="C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_29" --debug
--sdk-platform="8" "C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android -
AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\bin\Debug\TestApplication.dll"
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v2.2\Mono.Android.dll"
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\mscorlib.dll"
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.Core.dll"
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.dll" "C:\Program
Files (x86)\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.Xml.dll"
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.Xml.Linq.dll"

monodroid : error 1: System.InvalidOperationException: Unsupported
configuration: Could not load resource
'libmono-android.shared.x86-emu.so'. [C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for
Android -
AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\TestApplication.csproj]

at Monodroid.ApkBuilder.CreateApkFile (System.String target,
Monodroid.Arguments args) [0x0] in :0

at Monodroid.Toolbox.InvokeApkbuilder (System.String target) [0x0]
in :0

at Monodroid.Droidinator.CreateApk () [0x0] in :0

at Monodroid.MainClass.Main (System.String[] argv) [0x0] in
:0

Done Building Project "C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android -
AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\TestApplication.csproj"
(SignAndroidPackage target(s)) -- FAILED.



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Re: [mono-android] MonoTouch.Dialog equivalent

2012-03-24 Thread Stuart Lodge 
I hope you don't mind me asking but what are the scenarios you choose
to use the dialog approach for on Android?

I use it lots on MonoTouch - as it helps a heap with layout. But on Android
I've not used it (yet) - I guess mainly because LinearLayout,
RelativeLayout, etc all make layout much easier. But maybe I'm missing out
on something?

Stuart

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> No problem alex if you'd like to see some of our custom elements let me
> know, but I agree with Roy you really need to make custom elements or it's
> kinda meh
>
> --
> Martin Bowling
> Sent with Sparrow 
>
> On Friday, March 23, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Roy Goode wrote:
>
> I am also using this implementation. I think you have to make custom
> elements to make the most out of it, but I do find it works pretty well.
>
> On 23 March 2012 13:22, Martin Bowling  wrote:
>
> I am currently using this one https://github.com/Clancey/MonoDroid.Dialog and
> am very happy, I think it's the one that is most up to date with MfA 4.x
>
> I am very happy with it there are a few issues with a few elements but I
> don't know if it's me or the elements implementation. I have done several
> custom elements and am kicking along :D
>
> --
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>
> On Friday, March 23, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Alex Soto wrote:
>
> Hello, I have seen several implementations of this but i would like to
> know which one are you guys using??
>
> Alex
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Re: [mono-android] r17 x86 support

2012-03-24 Thread Wally McClure 

Thanks.  This machine is only running the trial version.  My laptop is running 
the full version.  Makes sense.
 
Wally 
 > Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:29:52 -0500
> From: mon...@jpobst.com
> To: monodroid@lists.ximian.com
> CC: theevilprogram...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [mono-android] r17 x86 support
> 
> Is it a full version of MFA?
> 
> We don't have an emulator-only version of the runtime for eval version yet.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> On 3/24/2012 2:51 PM, Wally McClure wrote:
> > I tried the r17 download and with some help of Chris Hardy, I was able
> > to get the x86 Emulator up and running on my laptop running Win7 x64. I
> > tried to repeat the process today on a desktop running Win7 x64. I have
> > an emulator session setup running x86. I have installed and have the
> > Intel Execution Manager up and running. The app seems to build ok. When
> > I attemp to deploy, I get the error below. Any thoughts on this?
> >
> > C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Novell\mandroid.exe -v --nosign
> > --sdk-dir="C:\Android\android-sdk"
> > --builddir="C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android -
> > AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\obj\Debug\android"
> > --framework-dir="C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
> > Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v2.2"
> > --framework-dir="C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
> > Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0"
> > -S="C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android -
> > AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\obj\Debug\res"
> > --package="TestApplication.TestApplication" --nolink --abi="armeabi;x86"
> > --java-sdk-dir="C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_29" --debug
> > --sdk-platform="8" "C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android -
> > AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\bin\Debug\TestApplication.dll"
> > "C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
> > Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v2.2\Mono.Android.dll"
> > "C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
> > Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\mscorlib.dll"
> > "C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
> > Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.Core.dll"
> > "C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
> > Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.dll" "C:\Program
> > Files (x86)\Reference
> > Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.Xml.dll"
> > "C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference
> > Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\MonoAndroid\v1.0\System.Xml.Linq.dll"
> >
> > monodroid : error 1: System.InvalidOperationException: Unsupported
> > configuration: Could not load resource
> > 'libmono-android.shared.x86-emu.so'. [C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for
> > Android -
> > AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\TestApplication.csproj]
> >
> > at Monodroid.ApkBuilder.CreateApkFile (System.String target,
> > Monodroid.Arguments args) [0x0] in :0
> >
> > at Monodroid.Toolbox.InvokeApkbuilder (System.String target) [0x0]
> > in :0
> >
> > at Monodroid.Droidinator.CreateApk () [0x0] in :0
> >
> > at Monodroid.MainClass.Main (System.String[] argv) [0x0] in
> > :0
> >
> > Done Building Project "C:\Users\MAPPING\Desktop\Mono for Android -
> > AppDev\Projects\IntroductionToAndroid4\TestApplication\TestApplication\TestApplication.csproj"
> > (SignAndroidPackage target(s)) -- FAILED.
> >
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