Re: [Mjpeg-users] mpeg2enc: status of low quality settings on ix86

2007-05-13 Thread Jonathan Woithe
Steven M. Schultz wrote:
> > For a long time there have been known issues with encoding at low quality
> > factors such as q=2 (ie: high quality encoding) on ix86.  I understand this
> 
>   Not -q again.  Seems like just yesterday there was (yet another)
>   discussion about it.

Ok, I must be blind.  Ever since the issue came to light I've been watching
for news on it but I never saw anything.

> > was due to something related to potential overflows in some parts of the MMX
> > code.  From memory the general recommendation from a year or so ago was that
> 
>   "or so" ;)  The mmx code was rewritten/updated/modified between
>   December 2004 and March 2005 to workaround/fix the issues with
>   overflow in the mmx routines.  

Right.  I'm blind. :-)

> > on ix86 one shouldn't go below a "q" value of 3.
> 
>   That's still, if you understand what -q is and so on,  good advice 
>   most of the time ;)  

For sure.  The point is that with the MMX code fixed there's no potential
for overflow no matter what the quality setting which gives one a little
more confidence.

> > What is the current status on this - does mpeg2enc still suffer this
> > limitation or has it been dealt with?
>   
>   The current state, since approximately Feb 19, 2007, is that mpeg2enc
>   is BROKEN and should not be used.  If you DO use it then -q of 4 or
>   higher MAY produced uncorrupted output.  

I vaguely recall something about this.

>   Last known working mpeg2enc is RC1.  RC2 is broken.

Given this I assume it's known what broke it and that it will be fixed
before RC3 (or final) is released.  Is anyone working on it at the moment
or is there a need for more eyes?

Regards
  jonathan
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Re: [Mjpeg-users] mpeg2enc: status of low quality settings on ix86

2007-05-13 Thread Steven M. Schultz

On Mon, 14 May 2007, Jonathan Woithe wrote:

> Ok, I must be blind.  Ever since the issue came to light I've been watching
> for news on it but I never saw anything.

I was referring to -q discussion in general.  It felt to me that
have been many threads of discussion about "quality" and -q.

> > "or so" ;)  The mmx code was rewritten/updated/modified between
> > December 2004 and March 2005 to workaround/fix the issues with
> 
> Right.  I'm blind. :-)

Was so long ago I'd forgotten about it -  a "ls -lt" in the 
source directory refreshed my memory.

> > Last known working mpeg2enc is RC1.  RC2 is broken.
> 
> Given this I assume it's known what broke it and that it will be fixed
> before RC3 (or final) is released.  Is anyone working on it at the moment
> or is there a need for more eyes?

As far as I know nothing's been done .  All I did was effectively
disable the program to prevent complaints about corrupted and/or
poor quality.

The author/maintainer knows about it - but alas he is at a new
job and doing a lot of coding there which doesn't leave much 
time (or inspiration) to do more coding/debug at home ;(

Steven Schultz


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