Re: [Mjpeg-users] Standards converter?

2007-05-11 Thread herve.flores

Le 11 mai 07 à 07:22, Steven M. Schultz a écrit :

>
> On Fri, 11 May 2007, Stefan M. Fendt wrote:
>
>> Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2007, 20:07 -0700 schrieb Steven M. Schultz:
>>
>> yuvmotionfps is an external program, yes. I can not reach the guy who
>
>   Oh, ok - that explains why I couldn't find it ;)

http://jcornet.free.fr/linux/yuvmotionfps.html
the last time I managed to reach jerome was... two years ago (he  
doesn't answer anymore :-(

> mjpegtools builds easily on both the Intel and PPC based Macs.
>
>   I can't see anything to help with.

yuvmotionfps comes with a configure from mjpegtools 1.7 (and this old  
version desn't compile on macintel)
take a look to the configure verbose I sent in this thread ;-)

>   It's been a while since I've needed to do any standards conversion
>   work but if you've got a Mac then Apple's Compressor2 (soon to
>   be Compressor3) program is slow but produced excellent output.  The
>   alternative (highly regarded but I have no personal experience)
>   is a Final Cut Pro plugin:
>
> http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/ 
> standardsconversion.htm

I tried it last year, TOOoo slow! (and not really better than the  
tool)


>   Maybe, but you'll never know for sure - no Mac experience :)
>
>   Compressor does what is called optical flow analysis (advanced form
>   of motion compensated frame interpolation if I decode the marketing
>   lingo correctly ;)).  *SLOW* but very good.

I don't want to use a commercial product for this "simple use"
(and -from memory- Compressor doesn't know separate fields in  
progressive frames, then you'll always loose half of your  
informations with it)

yuvmotionfps is not bad (not perfect, it makes some ghosts) but I  
think it's the best free soluce (but I don't manage to compil it  
anymore :-(

(sorry for my bad english and thank for your help)
bye

Hervé
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Re: [Mjpeg-users] Standards converter?

2007-05-11 Thread Stefan M. Fendt
Steven M. Schultz schrieb:
> Compressor does what is called optical flow analysis (advanced form
> of motion compensated frame interpolation if I decode the marketing
> lingo correctly ;)).  *SLOW* but very good.
>   

:) Basicaly "optical-flow" in marketing-lingo just means it is not 
block-based but a dense field (vector for every single pixel)... That's 
why it is so slow... If you look into the papers dealing with that 
topic, you may find that even sparse MV-fields are called 
optical-flow-fields, sometimes... The techniques used are the same than 
in plain MV-search. You just have to apply some additional constraints 
which will allow the field to be more smooth and check for invalid 
vectors a little bit better...

I personaly think it is mainly more Sound(TM) than MV-"estimation" other 
then that it's mainly synonymous... ;-)

cu
Stefan


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Re: [Mjpeg-users] Standards converter?

2007-05-11 Thread Steven M. Schultz

On Fri, 11 May 2007, herve.flores wrote:

> http://jcornet.free.fr/linux/yuvmotionfps.html

Ok.  

> the last time I managed to reach jerome was... two years ago (he  
> doesn't answer anymore :-(

So it is an abandoned program :-(

> yuvmotionfps comes with a configure from mjpegtools 1.7 (and this old  
> version desn't compile on macintel)
> take a look to the configure verbose I sent in this thread ;-)

I didn't pay attention to the beginning of the thread ;)

But if it's an autoconf problem then running either ./bootstrap
or ./autogen.sh (if either of those are provided) will regenerate
the ./configure script.

If neither ./bootstrap or ./autogen.sh are provided then you can
try this:

   autoreconf -f -i

to recreate the ccnfigure script.

> I tried it last year, TOOoo slow! (and not really better than the  
> tool)

 I thought the motion was supposed to be a little better looking while
 the deinterlacing was not quite as good.

> I don't want to use a commercial product for this "simple use"
> (and -from memory- Compressor doesn't know separate fields in  
> progressive frames, then you'll always loose half of your  

Not 100% true.  Compressor knows about interlaced video and can encode
it. 

It (Compressor) is not a deinterlacing tool, that is correct.  So
maybe if you have interlaced video it should remain interlaced during
the  conversion process.

> yuvmotionfps is not bad (not perfect, it makes some ghosts) but I  
> think it's the best free soluce (but I don't manage to compil it  anymore :-(

If I have some free time this weekend maybe i'll look at it - but
recreating the ./configure script might be all that is needed

Steven Schultz


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Re: [Mjpeg-users] Standards converter?

2007-05-11 Thread Steven M. Schultz

On Fri, 11 May 2007, Stefan M. Fendt wrote:

> :) Basicaly "optical-flow" in marketing-lingo just means it is not 
> block-based but a dense field (vector for every single pixel)... That's 
> why it is so slow... If you look into the papers dealing with that 

Slow is almost an inadequate word ;)  Yes, processing each pixel
intead of 16x16 or 8x8 blocks slows the process down.  looks good
though if you have the patience ;)

Cheers,
Steven Schultz


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