TOr

2024-08-30 Thread openbsd_freak
Does OpenBSD support Tor?



Re: TOr

2024-08-30 Thread Matthias Pfeifer

it does

e.g. https://community.torproject.org/relay/setup/bridge/openbsd/



On 30.08.24 10:11, openbsd_fr...@mail2tor.com wrote:

Does OpenBSD support Tor?





Re: Installation USB

2024-08-30 Thread rfabris

Dear openbsd_freak

Am 2024-08-29 16:45, schrieb Zé Loff:
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 02:18:29AM -0400, openbsd_fr...@mail2tor.com 
wrote:

The installer cannot find usb media.



Unplug and plug the USB media back on, and see if the console spits out
the device, something like:

sd4 at scsibus5 targ 1 lun 0:  ...

Then enter "!" on the installer prompt to drop to a shell, check if the
node exists in /dev (e.g. "ls /dev/sd4*", change sd4 to whatever is
relevant in your case) and if it doesn't, create it using MAKEDEV 
(e.g.:

"cd /dev; sh ./MAKEDEV sd4").

Exit the shell to get back to the installer and see if the media is
now detected.


I had a similar issue: The USB stick was not detected when plugged into
one of the front ports of the PC. Plugging it into one of the back ports
helped. Perhaps you can try using another USB port?

Best regards

Rolf



Re: TOr

2024-08-30 Thread David
On Fri, 2024-08-30 at 04:11 -0400, openbsd_fr...@mail2tor.com wrote:
> Does OpenBSD support Tor?

Here's everything OpenBSD supports:

https://openbsd.app/

Cheers!



Re: Discrepancies between i386 port list and package list

2024-08-30 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-08-29, Elie Le Vaillant  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm currently daily-driving a 2008 i386 machine on
> -current. Earlier this month, I tried out ungoogled-chromium,
> which was available as a package at the time. I've
> tried again today, and though the ports tree still
> lists i386 as a valid platform, the different mirrors
> I've tried do not provide ungoogled-chromium as a
> package. The same appears to be true for pandoc,
> and chromium: listed in ports as a valid target, but
> not available as a package.

imho you should really be looking for a 64 bit machine if you want to
run a web browser.

> Is this due to a change of policy on i386 packages
> which I've missed? Is this a known issue?

No change of policy - those simply aren't getting built.

pandoc depends on ghc, which is amd64 only.

When attempting to build chromium and friends on i386, it usually fails
for various reasons.

In the most recent attempt, iridium and ungoogled-chromium fail with this

In file included from 
../../v8/src/compiler/turboshaft/int64-lowering-phase.cc:9:
../../v8/src/compiler/turboshaft/int64-lowering-reducer.h:295:24: error: call 
to member function 'Word32Constant' is a
mbiguous
  295 | new_index = __ Word32Constant(sizeof(int32_t));
  | ~~~^~

and chromium fails earlier (I suspect typescript probably runs out of
memory).

FAILED: 
gen/third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/screencast-tsconfig.json
 gen/third_party/dev
tools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/InputModel.js 
gen/third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/sc
reencast/InputModel.js.map 
gen/third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/InputModel.d.ts
 gen/third
_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/ScreencastApp.js 
gen/third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_
end/panels/screencast/ScreencastApp.js.map 
gen/third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/Screencas
tApp.d.ts 
gen/third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/ScreencastView.js
 gen/third_party/devtools
-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/ScreencastView.js.map 
gen/third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels
/screencast/ScreencastView.d.ts
python3 
../../third_party/devtools-frontend/src/third_party/typescript/ts_library.py 
--tsconfig_output_location gen/th
ird_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/screencast-tsconfig.json
 --deps ../../core/common/bundle-t
sconfig.json ../../core/host/bundle-tsconfig.json 
../../core/i18n/bundle-tsconfig.json ../../core/sdk/bundle-tsconfig.
json ../../generated/protocol-tsconfig.json 
../../ui/components/icon_button/bundle-tsconfig.json ../../ui/legacy/bundl
e-tsconfig.json --front_end_directory 
../../third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast --reset_time
stamps --sources 
../../third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/InputModel.ts
 ../../third_party/d
evtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/ScreencastApp.ts 
../../third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/pa
nels/screencast/ScreencastView.ts

TypeScript compilation failed. Used tsconfig 
gen/third_party/devtools-frontend/src/front_end/panels/screencast/screenc
ast-tsconfig.json

...

Last time the chromium code was actually compilable on i386, linking
failed about 80% of the time due to running into memory limits on a
32-bit platform (we do native builds on i386, not cross compiles from
amd64).

Browsers still built on i386:

(w3m, lynx, links, links+, elinks)
netsurf
dillo
seamonkey
webkitgtk-based ones (epiphany, luakit, vimb, surf, badwolf)
qtwebengine-based ones (qutebrowser, otter-browser) - though there's
a fairly good chance that future updates will break i386

Also we are also having problems with programs written in rust, the
compiler started using more memory in some more recent release, and
seeing quite a few random build failures there, so some of those will
drop in and out of package snapshots depending on whether they worked
in any particular build.

Many projects are simply not interested in resource requirements during
compilation.

Taking amd64 as 100%, here's how other archs compare in number of
packages in the latest snapshots:

arm 65
powerpc64 68
mips64 69
sparc64 70
powerpc 81
riscv64 84
i386 85
aarch64 98
amd64 100

I'm all for running hardware for a long time to get as much use out
of it as possible. But a new machine costing around GBP/EUR/USD
175 (mini desktop, with 16GB ram / 500GB SSD included in that
price) will run rings round a 2008 i386, use significantly less
electricity, and if it's an intel >= 11th gen (e.g. intel n100
which is common in this class of machines - look for "Control-
Flow Enforcement Technology" in the cpu specs) have a feature
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indirect_branch_tracking which is well
supported by OpenBSD/amd64 (used in the majority of packages) that
makes some classes of attack very much more difficult. (Though

Re: Discrepancies between i386 port list and package list

2024-08-30 Thread Crystal Kolipe
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 09:56:13AM -, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> imho you should really be looking for a 64 bit machine if you want to
> run a web browser.

Lynx runs just fine on my i386 ;-)



Re: Alternative mailing lists

2024-08-30 Thread hahahahacker2009
Vào Th 6, 30 thg 8, 2024 vào lúc 03:06 Anon Loli
 đã viết:
>
> Hello, OpenBSD friends!
> Is there an alternative mailing list, or we can To and CC a bunch of people at
> once, I believe.
> The problem is that I have been censored plenty of times on @misc, @bugs and
> probably also @tech, and although I despise that, it's someone else's servers
> so what can I really do about it and should I even, right? :)
>

Are your mails not distributed by the server?
Are your mails deleted on users' mailbox? Yes, I think some people
will delete your mails right away when they see the title or your name.

1st You didn't accept the fact that devs do not *have to* satisfy you.
2nd Your emails are full of "fuck" and "shit", but not others.
Review your behaviors: https://marc.info/?t=17211487322&r=1&w=2
3rd You think everyone have to follows your rules.
like the guy Richard Stallman does. (review your "IP rights bullshit")

Everyone here always keep calm and try to have constructive discussions.
You respond to those constructive discussion with "fuck" and "shit".
Then you said you are censored. While the fact is you are censoring
everyone.

And, if you are censored, why can this email popped up in my mailbox?

> I don't have to talk about everything I want on OpenBSD official mailing lists
> (even if it's a serious and an OpenBSD topic), and neither do you, all I'm
> asking here that those who are interested in hearing what I, the censored
> friend of yours has to say, can.
> If you at all value not just the right, but the mere possibility to say
> something to someone who wants to hear, allow this e-mail to go trough, pretty
> please.
>

illusions about yourself and your power.

> And if at all you found me in the least bit interesting, over all of my
> e-mails to the formentioned lists, you should send me an e-mail and you will
> hear from me.
>
> And would this e-mail pass trough, then I applaud you for taking up with this
> empty e-mail.
>



OpenBSD Guide Installing XFCE

2024-08-30 Thread openbsd_freak
Please ship OpenBSD with XFCE4 pre-built instead of with CWM or both.



[Fwd: Re: TOr]

2024-08-30 Thread openbsd_freak


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: TOr
From:"hahahahacker2009" 
Date:Fri, August 30, 2024 7:00 am
To:  openbsd_fr...@mail2tor.com
--

Vào Th 6, 30 thg 8, 2024 vào lúc 15:16 
đã viết:
>
> Does OpenBSD support Tor?
>

Running pkg_info -Q tor, or searching "tor" on a site like openports.pl
isn't something hard. Can you stop freaking the community, bitch?

Replied off-list to not disrupt the community.




Re: OpenBSD Guide Installing XFCE

2024-08-30 Thread Benjamin Stürz

On 8/30/24 11:56 AM, openbsd_fr...@mail2tor.com wrote:

Please ship OpenBSD with XFCE4 pre-built instead of with CWM or both.


Please use `pkg_add xfce4` or go back to Ubuntu



Re: Desktop

2024-08-30 Thread Страхиња Радић
Дана 24/08/30 02:28AM, Karsten Pedersen написа:
> Slight nitpick, but the default is fvwm(1) based on what launches if 
> your user account has no custom ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession.
> 
> For cwm(1) or twm(1), these need to be specified manually.

I stand partially corrected. The actual "default" in 
/etc/X11/xenodm/Xsession is indeed fvwm. However, in the
"Customizing X" part of the OpenBSD "The X Window System" FAQ[1], which 
a new user is expected to read, the sample configuration uses cwm.


Дана 24/08/30 04:13AM, openbsd_fr...@mail2tor.com написа:
> Ship it with XFCE4 pre-built instead of CWM or both.

But there *are* pre-built XFCE-related packages for OpenBSD:

# pkg_info -Q xfce | less
# pkg_add xfce

If you meant "installed by default", then (thankfully) that's not going 
to happen. The defaults in OpenBSD are chosen deliberately and with 
care.


[1]: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq11.html#CustomizingX



Re: OpenBSD Guide Installing XFCE

2024-08-30 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 05:56:32AM -0400, openbsd_fr...@mail2tor.com wrote:
> Please ship OpenBSD with XFCE4 pre-built instead of with CWM or both.
 
After a successful install, running 

pkg_add xfce

and following the instructions at the end of the package install will get
you there. 

Also the FAQ about packages is worth reading 
(https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html).

Actually *all* parts of the faq are worth reading if you are responsible
for OpenBSD systems.

- P

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
https://bsdly.blogspot.com/ https://www.bsdly.net/ https://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: OpenBSD Guide Installing XFCE

2024-08-30 Thread Peter Hessler
OpenBSD will not be doing this.  You can of course install XFCE by
running "pkg_add xfce" as root and following the instructions that are
printed on screen.


On 2024 Aug 30 (Fri) at 05:56:32 -0400 (-0400), openbsd_fr...@mail2tor.com 
wrote:
:Please ship OpenBSD with XFCE4 pre-built instead of with CWM or both.
:



E-mail address openly visible in the WWW

2024-08-30 Thread rfabris

Dear friends

I have observed the e-mail addresses of the misc@ contributors are
openly visible in the World Wide Web. I'm not sure whether this might
be a privacy hasard.

Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for
posting in the misc@ list?

Best regards



Re: E-mail address openly visible in the WWW

2024-08-30 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 05:06:32PM +0200, rfab...@mhsmail.ch wrote:
> I have observed the e-mail addresses of the misc@ contributors are
> openly visible in the World Wide Web. I'm not sure whether this might
> be a privacy hasard.
> 
> Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for
> posting in the misc@ list?

I would not consider the openbsd-misc archives a higher risk than any other
mailing list archives.

There are ways to mask addresses in mailing list archives, but whether
the people in charge of the archives consider the effort required to set
up such a thing worth it is entirely up to them.

That said, if you have reason to believe that making your email address
available in searchable archives on the Internet, using an alternate 
address for posting to the list might be a workable option.


-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
https://bsdly.blogspot.com/ https://www.bsdly.net/ https://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: E-mail address openly visible in the WWW

2024-08-30 Thread Florian Obser
> Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for
> posting in the misc@ list?

I would recommend not reading misc. But that might just be me.

-- 
In my defence, I have been left unsupervised.



Re: Alternative mailing lists

2024-08-30 Thread Anon Loli
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 07:58:07AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 05:03:25PM +, Anon Loli wrote:
> > Hello, OpenBSD friends!
> > Is there an alternative mailing list, or we can To and CC a bunch of people 
> > at
> > once, I believe.
> > The problem is that I have been censored plenty of times on @misc, @bugs and
> > probably also @tech, and although I despise that, it's someone else's 
> > servers
> > so what can I really do about it and should I even, right? :)
> 
> "I have been censored plenty of times" is a very serious accusation, and one 
> that
> should not be made lightly.

I know, I have known censorship for many many many years, and I know what
freedom of speech is.
I know the consequences of both, and I give myself a degree when it comes to
this.

Do not misunderstand me, I know that OpenBSD has specifically said in [1] that
they will probably silently drop off-topic messages and subjects.
But a lot of my messages, and even whole subjects have been silently dropped
aka censored.

For example I have posted a few times about my worries of C being replaced with
something as obnoxious as Rust and Go, to @ports and even @misc.
I have also given many of my reasons to the worries and have asked for other
people's input.


> Were messages of yours removed or suppressed? 

Answered exactly above this.


> Keep in mind that having your messages ignored on mailing lists is just a 
> normal
> part of daily life. Perhaps your issue was not interesting to others or 
> simply 
> poorly presented, or perhaps one that is more than adequately covered in the 
> FAQ.

Not only do I have that in mind, but I have on many occasions specifically said
myself that people who do not want to hear from me should ignore me, or even
use functions if their e-mail client(s) have, to not even see my threads and/or
even all of my messages.

If it was poorly presented, let me tell you that I am not the only one or the
1st one to do that.
In my opinion, OpenBSD has lied to us, primarily that bad manual pages are
considered as bugs.



> But sure, if you feel your needs would be better served by starting a mailing 
> list
> or other service of your own, there is nobody stopping you from doing just 
> that.

But it will do about exactly 0 of anything, if no one knows that it exists,
hence I have started this thread.



> I suspect that the effect of the message I am making the utterly poor choice 
> of 
> following up on will be that people who would likely be able to provide 
> valuable
> input on any OpenBSD relevant issue you might raise will choose to filter away
> messages from "Anon Loli" so they will not waste any time reading those 
> pieces of text.

Again, I feel like that should be the viewer/reader's choice, since it is not
spam. Anything else is exactly that - filtering and manipulating and malforming
someone's words or even actions.

Which of course they have all rights reserved to, but it's a poopy move since
they have not warned people about that.
I would have probably not even come join the OpenBSD mailing lists would I know
that someone would choose what I get to say and what I do not...
I would immediately ask if there's an alternative mailing list or something
similar like group e-mailing.


[1] https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html





> -- 
> Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
> https://bsdly.blogspot.com/ https://www.bsdly.net/ https://www.nuug.no/
> "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
> delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.

--
Anonymous, one of world's highly advanced and thorough minds, philosopher,
computer master, OPSEC master, master of learning and perfection, master of
critical thinking, etc.

currently mastering:psychology, remanipulation or demanipulation aka
promoting critical thinking, moral, consequences aka
butterfly/domino effect, human body, as many of top important skillsets as
possible

These are just some of my qualifications from the top of my head, partially
because I did not yet master memonics and did not discover the full potential
of my brain efficiency which is needed if I want to create a better life for
myself and others,

one of projects for that would be my own operating system and hardware with it,
which in theory should be greatly inspired and improved from all of existing
operating systems and especially the derivatives of the old and insufficient
Unix, some of them are: GNU, Linux, *BSD, QubesOS, Plan9, TempleOS.

I will not initiate it's development until I have perfected it "on paper".

In other words, do not make the mistake that you are qualified enough to
understand my messages and then deduce wether or not you want them on your
mailing lists.
This is one of reasons that censorship should not exits or even be accepted by
other people who might not have something unusual to say.
Another of reason is possible manipulation.



Re: Alternative mailing lists

2024-08-30 Thread chohag
Anon Loli writes:
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 07:58:07AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 05:03:25PM +, Anon Loli wrote:
> > > Hello, OpenBSD friends!
> > > Is there an alternative mailing list, or we can To and CC a bunch of 
> > > people at
> > > once, I believe.
> > > The problem is that I have been censored plenty of times on @misc, @bugs 
> > > and
> > > probably also @tech, and although I despise that, it's someone else's 
> > > servers
> > > so what can I really do about it and should I even, right? :)
> > 
> > "I have been censored plenty of times" is a very serious accusation, and 
> > one that
> > should not be made lightly.
>
> I know, I have known censorship for many many many years, and I know what
> freedom of speech is.

There is a big difference between "censored" and "ignored".

Matthew



Re: E-mail address openly visible in the WWW

2024-08-30 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-08-30, Florian Obser  wrote:
>> Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for
>> posting in the misc@ list?
>
> I would recommend not reading misc. But that might just be me.

I fear you may be right. If people would stop replying to stupid messages
on-list it would help those of us who already have setup scorefiles to
make the misc list semi-readable.


-- 
Please keep replies on the mailing list.



Re: MariaDB install any different for OpenBSD 7.5 than 6.4?

2024-08-30 Thread David Colburn




chrooted daemons and MariaDB socket
===

For external program running under a chroot(8) to be able to 
access the

MariaDB server without using a network connection, the socket must be
placed inside the chroot.

e.g. httpd(8) or nginx(8): connecting to MariaDB from PHP
-
Create a directory for the MariaDB socket:

      # install -d -m 0711 -o _mysql -g _mysql /var/www/var/run/mysql

Adjust /etc/my.cnf to use the socket in the chroot - this
applies to both client and server processes:

      [client-server]
      socket = /var/www/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock

You have three progressively less restrictive ways of providing access
to your database server:

* A Unix socket:
If all the database consumers will be running locally, you can use a
socket.  If any of the consumers will be running chrooted to /var/www,
then you'll need to put the socket in the chroot, as described on the
pkg-readme (and remember not to use the full path when configuring the
chrooted clients).

* TCP, listening on 127.0.0.1:
If all consumers will be running on the same host, and if you don't 
want

the hassle of setting up the socket -- the tradeoff being having the
socket available for every process that can use inet -- then you can
just configure mariadb to listen on the loopback interface. If you 
have

"set skip on lo0" on pf.conf (it's there by default), then you won't
need to add anything else to that file.

* TCP, listening on other interfaces:
You'll need this if the database is to be accessible to other hosts.
Using this option might require adjusting your filtering rules on
pf.conf.


You can use any combination of the above methods (socket only, 
loopback
only, socket+loopback, socket+other interfaces, etc).   See the 
"port",

"socket", "skip-networking" and "bind-address" options on the [mysqld]
section of /etc/my.cnf, and remember to setup the [client] section
accordingly (i.e., if you skip-networking, don't configure the 
client to
use TCP/IP, and if you don't setup a server socket, don't configure 
the

client to use it).


I have several concerns with /etc/my.cnf

The instructions I found here are somewhat generic

https://mariadb.com/kb/en/configuring-mariadb-with-option-files/

Am I understanding them, correctly, please?

1. I need to uncomment both the socket and port lines?

#socket=/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock
#port=3306

2. I need to provide a password for MariaDB (or, does it want the user 
password)?


#password=my_password

3. Is this address the same as for the machine?

e.g. "bind-address=192.168.50.xxx"?

4. I do want to uncomment all of the following?

#data=/var/mysql
#log-basename=mysqld
#general-log
#slow_query_log

Thanks!

-

[client-server]
#socket=/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock
#port=3306

# This will be passed to all MariaDB clients
[client]
#password=my_password

# The MariaDB server
[mysqld]
# To listen to all network addresses, use "bind-address = *"
bind-address=localhost
# Directory where you want to put your data
#data=/var/mysql
# This is the prefix name to be used for all log, error and replication 
files

#log-basename=mysqld
# Logging
#general-log
#slow_query_log



Re: Alternative mailing lists

2024-08-30 Thread hahahahacker2009
I will resolve this problem once and for all.

Vào Th 7, 31 thg 8, 2024 vào lúc 00:29 Anon Loli
 đã viết:
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 07:58:07AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 05:03:25PM +, Anon Loli wrote:
> > > Hello, OpenBSD friends!
> > > Is there an alternative mailing list, or we can To and CC a bunch of 
> > > people at
> > > once, I believe.
> > > The problem is that I have been censored plenty of times on @misc, @bugs 
> > > and
> > > probably also @tech, and although I despise that, it's someone else's 
> > > servers
> > > so what can I really do about it and should I even, right? :)
> >
> > "I have been censored plenty of times" is a very serious accusation, and 
> > one that
> > should not be made lightly.
>
> I know, I have known censorship for many many many years, and I know what
> freedom of speech is.
> I know the consequences of both, and I give myself a degree when it comes to
> this.
>
> Do not misunderstand me, I know that OpenBSD has specifically said in [1] that
> they will probably silently drop off-topic messages and subjects.
> But a lot of my messages, and even whole subjects have been silently dropped
> aka censored.
>

https://marc.info/?a=17157917311&r=1&w=2
Look, your messages popped up on the archive. Everyone just ignore you.
Can you re-think about yourself and your behavior? Can you read the book
"Absolute OpenBSD" to understand the community more?

Your message isn't dropped, or suppressed, you are ignored by the whole
community. You make up nonsense about censorship, you are disgusting.

> For example I have posted a few times about my worries of C being replaced 
> with
> something as obnoxious as Rust and Go, to @ports and even @misc.
> I have also given many of my reasons to the worries and have asked for other
> people's input.
>

It means no one care. Your messaged popped on the archive.
>
> > Were messages of yours removed or suppressed?
>
> Answered exactly above this.
>
>
> > Keep in mind that having your messages ignored on mailing lists is just a 
> > normal
> > part of daily life. Perhaps your issue was not interesting to others or 
> > simply
> > poorly presented, or perhaps one that is more than adequately covered in 
> > the FAQ.
>
> Not only do I have that in mind, but I have on many occasions specifically 
> said
> myself that people who do not want to hear from me should ignore me, or even
> use functions if their e-mail client(s) have, to not even see my threads 
> and/or
> even all of my messages.
>

Everyone ignored you, you see? The fact is, your mail popped on the archive.
> If it was poorly presented, let me tell you that I am not the only one or the
> 1st one to do that.
> In my opinion, OpenBSD has lied to us, primarily that bad manual pages are
> considered as bugs.
>

Analyzed your messages. There aren't any sign that you have read any docs.
That's my opinion.
You have the illusion that you have a genius brain. Anyone that do not
understand and satisfy you are dumbass. But you forgot that you are
an Anonymous Cowards. You speak as if a government should accept
the opinion of an anonymous cowards claiming to be talented like Kongming.

>
> > But sure, if you feel your needs would be better served by starting a 
> > mailing list
> > or other service of your own, there is nobody stopping you from doing just 
> > that.
>
> But it will do about exactly 0 of anything, if no one knows that it exists,
> hence I have started this thread.
>
>
>
> > I suspect that the effect of the message I am making the utterly poor 
> > choice of
> > following up on will be that people who would likely be able to provide 
> > valuable
> > input on any OpenBSD relevant issue you might raise will choose to filter 
> > away
> > messages from "Anon Loli" so they will not waste any time reading those 
> > pieces of text.
>
> Again, I feel like that should be the viewer/reader's choice, since it is not
> spam. Anything else is exactly that - filtering and manipulating and 
> malforming
> someone's words or even actions.
>

But it is their choice! Almost everyone except me ignored Anon Loli.

> Which of course they have all rights reserved to, but it's a poopy move since
> they have not warned people about that.
> I would have probably not even come join the OpenBSD mailing lists would I 
> know
> that someone would choose what I get to say and what I do not...
> I would immediately ask if there's an alternative mailing list or something
> similar like group e-mailing.

r/openbsd, openbsd guys on youtube, irc, xmpp, matrix, facebook group,
daemonforums, they are existing groups.

No need to wait for the next life, you can find another operating system
where the developers and community serves you like a god.
I think Windows or proprietary Unixes is the most qualifying options.

I hope no one will see you on this list again. Goodbye!
>
>
> [1] https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
>



Re: Alternative mailing lists

2024-08-30 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer

On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 05:03:25PM +, Anon Loli wrote:


The problem is that I have been censored plenty of times on @misc, @bugs and
probably also @tech,


I cannot see, that you're being censored here: I've seen quite a few
emails this month from you on various openbsd lists - the latest ones
on @bugs in a thread that you started, and that continues until today.
So given this: why don't you simply send an email to the list
administrator and ask what's going on - that is, if you still think
that something is going wrong with your emails to the various openbsd
lists.
--
Wolfgang



Can't load install75.img

2024-08-30 Thread Lukáš Fiala

Please help with error booting install75.img




Hello, I'm new to openBSD. I wanted to install it on my pc (CPU: AMD ryzen 5
7600x, MB: Asus tuf gaming B650-plus wifi, NVME: kingston NV2 1T, GPU: asus
dual radeon rx 6700XT 12gb, RAM: 32gb, dual boot with arch using refind). I
downloaded the install75.img, copied it using dd to a 15.7GB flash drive 
cmd: `dd if=install75.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1m`. Rebooted the PC to eufi
settings opened the boot menu with F8 clicked on `UEFI: General UDisk 5.00,
Partition 1(15.7gb)`. Then the `boot>` prompt showed up, there was as well
written `disk: hd0 hd1* hd2*` and `probing: pc0 mem[640k 153m 2m 13m 1590m
31m 30175m]` above the prompt. then I pressed enter (later I tried to type `
boot hd0:/bsd.rd`). Then blue text poped up and started scrolling I will 
include (hope) readable footage of that. And then it got stuck on `scibus2
at softraid0: 256 targets` I tried to wait for like a 30minutes or so but it
didn't load. I tried to insert the flash disk to my notebook and it worked
the first prompt showed up fine. I wander is it because of my hardware? And
if so how to fix it? Or at least how to show more debug info on the startup?




The link to the video of it booting can be found here: 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/aEeeNymJx9XF2E9R7


Re: Desktop

2024-08-30 Thread olp_76
 
I think if you really want it,
you can make it. ;) On Thursday, August 29, 2024 at 10:43:48 p.m. GMT+9, 
 wrote:  
 
 We need an XFCE desktop version of OpenBSD.
Ready configured. Or alternatives to buy
such a system.