[bret.lamb...@gmail.com: Re: Filtering based on MAC adress]
Actually, it doesn't mention brconfig anymore (or is my memory failing me, and it never did? quite possible) In any case, sorry for the unneeded snark. - Forwarded message from "Bret S. Lambert" - Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:42:42 +0100 From: "Bret S. Lambert" To: Jean-Francois Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Filtering based on MAC adress On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 01:19:14PM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > Le Samedi 20 Fivrier 2010 12:21:14, Bret S. Lambert a icrit : > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:49:54AM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > > > Good morning, > > > > > > Is it possible to do filtering through pf or blocking traffic based of > > > MAC adress recognition ? > > > > > > We want to identify the machines on the internal network based on their > > > MAC adress and filter. > > > > > > Can tools like pf fo this (not in my actual searches) ? another way ? > > > > Although pf cannot filter on mac addresses, you can set up a > > bridge interface to add tags to packets, which pf can then > > act upon. > > > > > Regards > > Hello Bret, > > Can you please briefly explain the principle. I can see ifconfig(8) mentions > also that however it is still not clear. PS - ifconfig also mentions brconfig, so you should probably have been able to find that manpage yourself > > I need to make a subnet with a local dhcp server and to filter on this side. I > believe I will do some NAT. > > Regards. > - End forwarded message -
Re: [bret.lamb...@gmail.com: Re: Filtering based on MAC adress]
"Bret S. Lambert" writes: > Actually, it doesn't mention brconfig anymore (or is my memory > failing me, and it never did? quite possible) If you're on -current, brconfig doesn't exist anymore (merged into ifconfig). That's likely what you're seeing. It also means bridge configs will need some adjustments when upgrading to 4.7. - P -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: Traffic control
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anything better than the em(4)?
Hello, It has been suggested here that em(4) should give good network performance on gigabit networks . (http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126605109632029&w=2). Does this include only the non-Intels on the man page (if there is such thing there)? I was thinking to get my hands on an Intel PRO/1000 PT for routing/pf till I read this on your site: http://www.openbsd.org/crypto.html#hardware "Forget about Intel. (If you want to buy gigabit ethernet hardware, we recommend anything else... for the same reason: most drivers we have for Intel networking hardware were written without documentation)." Does Intel still not provide appropriate documentation or did that web page expire? Is there any other brand/driver which should be considered (more) optimal in terms of performance+stability for openbsd routers on gigabit networks? best regards, Giannis
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Bret S. Lambert wrote: > Your original post[1] said, and I cut'n'paste, "that would be useable > for basic sysadmin types". How the fuck can anyone comprehend a question > you're incapable of asking correctly? > Certainly not you, .. who, amongst others, are far more interested in spouting crap than providing any useful information. Sometimes it's amazing how vocal some people are, .. I guess we're lucky that thare are a good bunch of folks out there more interested in creating good code tham spouting bs. Lee
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > In the time you've been spamming my inbox, every half-competent sysadmin > could have learned ncurses(3) and write the perfect(tm) interface for > his purpose. > Sorryk, my posts have been but a pittance in the BS spouted on this thread, .. it's a shame that nobody bothered to reply with any useful information. > I'll just leave this here: > http://doxfer.com/Webmin/ScheduledCommands#The_Scheduled_Commands_module > Guess you didn't read my original reply - but that's OK, I know it might have been buried inthe crap. Lee
Re: more OT than you think Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
hi there, have a look at webmin, that might have a crontab module. -f -- so easy, a child can do it. child sold seperately.
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:49:14AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Bret S. Lambert wrote: > > > Your original post[1] said, and I cut'n'paste, "that would be useable > > for basic sysadmin types". How the fuck can anyone comprehend a question > > you're incapable of asking correctly? > > > Certainly not you, .. who, amongst others, are far more interested in > spouting crap than providing any useful information. Sometimes it's > amazing how vocal some people are, .. I guess we're lucky that thare are a > good bunch of folks out there more interested in creating good code tham > spouting bs. Brett is one of those who do good things with code for the rest of us using OpenBSD. OTOH, I can't figure out why you haven't scripted something to do crontab editing and released it as a port. I'll take Brett's contributions over yours any day. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG dwchand...@stilyagin.com | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation
OpenBSD Volunteer needed today in Los Angeles
OpenBSD has a booth at the SCaLE conference in Los Angeles and no one appears to be available to staff it. It's a great conference and I highly recommend someone drop by to staff it Saturday and Sunday. Where: LAX Westin hotel, 5400 W Century Blvd. Call me for help with registration and orientation: 503-789-8978 Michael
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IPSEC encodes traffic to local IP?
Hi, I'm setting up an ipsec connection between two hosts and I noticed that as soon as ipsec is active, any TCP and UDP traffic (but not ICMP??) to the local IP gets redirected to the enc0 interface and shows up as encoded traffic originating from the other(!) endpoint. It doesn't matter if the other endpoint actually exists / is online. (If the other host is online, the traffic *between them* works as expected = encrypted) My expectation (from the flows in ipsec.conf) would be that traffic for the local IP should be ignored by ipsec and should show up as unencoded traffic on lo0. Only traffic with the exact "from" AND "to" should be handled by ipsec. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong here? Test setup: *) fresh install, i386/release 4.6 pc50_root# uname -a OpenBSD pc50.abc.test 4.6 GENERIC#58 i386 *) pf is disabled *) host: "pc50" / 10.10.1.50 *) remote host 10.10.1.99 doesn't exist (I've tested it; same results if it existed) 1) no ipsec * first issue a "ping 10.10.1.50", then "telnet 10.10.1.50 80" from local host pc50_root# tcpdump -nettti lo0 tcpdump: listening on lo0, link-type LOOP Feb 20 20:16:50.770037 10.10.1.50 > 10.10.1.50: icmp: echo request Feb 20 20:16:50.770421 10.10.1.50 > 10.10.1.50: icmp: echo reply Feb 20 20:16:51.778162 10.10.1.50 > 10.10.1.50: icmp: echo request Feb 20 20:16:51.778268 10.10.1.50 > 10.10.1.50: icmp: echo reply Feb 20 20:16:57.686028 10.10.1.50.26068 > 10.10.1.50.80: S 310361823:310361823(0) win 16384 0,nop,nop,timestamp 1189411092 0> (DF) [tos 0x10] Feb 20 20:16:57.686762 10.10.1.50.80 > 10.10.1.50.26068: R 0:0(0) ack 310361824 win 0 (DF) *) as expected, all traffic on lo0, nothing on another interface 2) ipsec enabled *) ipsec.conf flow esp from 10.10.1.50 to 10.10.1.99 peer 10.10.1.99 esp from 10.10.1.50 to 10.10.1.99 spi 0xabd9da39:0xc9dbb83d \ authkey 0x54f79f479a32814347bb768d3e01b2b58e49ce674ec6e2d327b63408c56ef4e8:0x7f48ee352c626cdc2a731b9d90bd63e29db2a9c683044b70b2f4441521b622d6 \ enckey 0xb341aa065c3850edd6a61e150d6a5fd3:0xf7795f6bdd697a43a4d28dcf1b79062d *) start ipsec pc50_root# isakmpd -K -4 -a pc50_root# ipsecctl -f /etc/ipsec.conf pc50_root# ipsecctl -s all FLOWS: flow esp in from 10.10.1.99 to 10.10.1.50 peer 10.10.1.99 type require flow esp out from 10.10.1.50 to 10.10.1.99 peer 10.10.1.99 type require SAD: esp tunnel from 10.10.1.50 to 10.10.1.99 spi 0xabd9da39 auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes esp tunnel from 10.10.1.99 to 10.10.1.50 spi 0xc9dbb83d auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes * again "ping 10.10.1.50", then "telnet 10.10.1.50 80" pc50_root# tcpdump -nettti lo0 tcpdump: listening on lo0, link-type LOOP Feb 20 20:33:46.979267 10.10.1.50 > 10.10.1.50: icmp: echo request Feb 20 20:33:46.979968 10.10.1.50 > 10.10.1.50: icmp: echo reply Feb 20 20:33:47.996163 10.10.1.50 > 10.10.1.50: icmp: echo request Feb 20 20:33:47.996293 10.10.1.50 > 10.10.1.50: icmp: echo reply Feb 20 20:33:51.332969 esp 10.10.1.99 > 10.10.1.50 spi 0xc9dbb83d seq 1 len 116 (DF) [tos 0x10] pc50_root# tcpdump -nettti enc0 tcpdump: listening on enc0, link-type ENC Feb 20 20:33:51.330716 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0xc9dbb83d: 10.10.1.50.28112 > 10.10.1.50.80: S 2213859062:2213859062(0) win 16384 (DF) [tos 0x10] (encap) Feb 20 20:33:51.334430 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0xc9dbb83d: 10.10.1.50.28112 > 10.10.1.50.80: S 2213859062:2213859062(0) win 16384 (DF) [tos 0x10] (encap) *) as you can see, the TCP traffic arrives from .99 as ipsec traffic and inside is the original request 3) ipsec still enabled *) "ping 127.0.0.1" and "telnet 127.0.0.1 80" pc50_root# tcpdump -nettti lo0 tcpdump: listening on lo0, link-type LOOP Feb 20 20:42:35.720121 127.0.0.1 > 127.0.0.1: icmp: echo request Feb 20 20:42:35.720274 127.0.0.1 > 127.0.0.1: icmp: echo reply Feb 20 20:42:36.730615 127.0.0.1 > 127.0.0.1: icmp: echo request Feb 20 20:42:36.731330 127.0.0.1 > 127.0.0.1: icmp: echo reply Feb 20 20:42:48.990875 127.0.0.1.29884 > 127.0.0.1.80: S 3653836207:3653836207(0) win 16384 0,nop,nop,timestamp 4200983611 0> (DF) [tos 0x10] Feb 20 20:42:48.991369 127.0.0.1.80 > 127.0.0.1.29884: R 0:0(0) ack 3653836208 win 0 (DF) *) traffic to 127.0.0.1 works as expected, no traffic on enc0 kind regards, Robert
Финансовый контроль и управление рисками бизнесаriq
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uaudio - Lexicon Alpha
I consider buying the Lexicon Alpha souncard: http://www.lexiconpro.com/product.php?id=7 Is someone using it sucessfully? I understand there are "USB soundcards" out there not even appearing as USB Audio class devices. If this card is not working properly with 4.6 or current, can people recommend a good uaudio card? I need it to be uaudio become the machine that will use it does not have any possibility of holding a PCI card. More generally, what is the status of uaudio(4)?
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Darrin Chandler wrote: > OTOH, I can't figure out why you haven't scripted something to do > crontab editing and released it as a port. > WOW, a USEFUL suggestion! I bet an outsider would wonder how in the hell anything productive gets done around here! Three days of BS and ONE useful suggestion. Lee
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 05:57:49PM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Darrin Chandler wrote: > > > OTOH, I can't figure out why you haven't scripted something to do > > crontab editing and released it as a port. > > > WOW, a USEFUL suggestion! I bet an outsider would wonder how in the hell > anything productive gets done around here! Three days of BS and ONE useful > suggestion. > > Lee Dude? Seriously? Your mother's a whore.
Re: uaudio - Lexicon Alpha
> I understand there are "USB soundcards" out there not even > appearing as USB Audio class devices. Yes there do exist some devices that depend on vendor supplied drivers, however there may be hope for this device: http://www.lexiconpro.com/knowledgebase.php?product=7 > Q: Will the Alpha work on an Intel based Mac? > A: The Alpha will work on Intel based Macs with OS version > 10.4.7 or higher. The Alpha uses Mac's built in Core Audio > drivers. That does indicate a uaudio device, however that may not be the case.. try contacting them directly, or keep the receit. -Bryan.
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
> Dude? Seriously? > > Your mother's a whore. > Wow! Such intelligence! Sorry, but you's was the one I saw in Amsterdam. Lee
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
Theo de Raadt wrote: I am very impressed by the oratary skills you have all shown in this discussion... but please... can this thread be terminated soon? I agree with Theo. Please take this troll-fest off the list. You can all flame each other privately. -- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -- Robert Heinlein
802.11 HostAP power saving mode
Greetings, Just wondering if anyone knows the status of implementing 802.11 Power Saving? All the man pages for wifi adapters supporting HostAP mode confirm it's not supported, e.g. ral(4): "Host AP mode doesn't support power saving. Clients attempting to use power saving mode may experience significant packet loss (disabling power saving on the client will fix this)." My wife has just added an iPhone to the clients supported by my OpenBSD wiresless access point and there appears to be no method of disabling power saving on this device (surprise, surprise), so any advice before I ditch my custom OpenBSD AP for something shrink-wrapped will be much appreciated. Cheers, Damon
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Re: Dump levels dump(8) man page clarification
Le Vendredi 19 Fivrier 2010 22:04:00, Philip Guenther a icrit : > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Jean-Francois > wrote: ... > > > Not sure to understand the subtle of the man page explanations regarding > > the dump of different nature of mount points. > > > > Just one additional information, the dump of higher levels work when I > > dump /var but not /var/htdocs. > > The key is the last sentence of this paragraph from the dump(8) manpage: > files-to-dump is either a mountpoint of a filesystem or a list of > files and directories on a single filesystem to be backed up as a subset > of the filesystem. In the former case, either the path to a mounted > filesystem or the device of an unmounted filesystem can be used. In the > latter case, certain restrictions are placed on the backup: -u is ignored, > the only dump level that is supported is -0, and all of the files must > reside on the same filesystem. > > So, if you're not dumping an entire filesystem, then you always get a > full (level 0) dump. > > (Why? At least part of the reason is that if you're not doing the > full filesystem, inode ctime isn't sufficient to determine whether a > file would be new to the dump.) > > > Philip Guenther Is it possible to clarify further this particular para of dump(8), I cant understand the differences that are explained here between the nature of the mount points and file systems and the relationship to what is prohibited (L+1 dumps are). Thanks. Regards
Re: Traffic control
americano writes: > Will rewritten (updated and improved) implementation of the existing traffic > control system altq? ALTQ is part of PF these days (for quite some time, since OpenBSD 3.3 if memory serves), and yes, the code is kept up to date with the rest of the system. The bits that make up this message passed at least one system running with ALTQ enabled on its from me to you. - Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: OT: opinions on IDS / IPS solutions
On 2/18/2010 8:59 PM, bofh wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Laurens Vets wrote: Just don't get ISS crap. Also, snort is good, but you must know what you're doing. Our snort box, running on an old throw away box, and only capturing/analyzing 10 minutes of every hour, is giving us *MORE* useful data than half a mil worth of ISS crap. Care to elaborate? :) Which parts? ISS suck so much that even though IBM spent $$ to acquire them, IBM is now killing the entire product line? What kills me (and *TAKE NOTE - THOSE WHO REPORT TO PHBs*) is that just a few months ago, we read a report on how ISS's IPS took top billing in some magazine or review. IBM is not killing the ISS product line. They are removing some older IPSses from their portfolio and adding additional products. On what we're doing internally, we're capturing data for 10 minutes every hour, and then having the box analyze that data using a variety of tools including snort. It then sends us information on crap such as botnet command/control traffic among other things. Things that we have full packet captures on, that ISS refuses to provide. We also drop it into a graphing tool, so we get nice maps of green/good traffic and red/bad traffic, and you can see that 3 boxes that's talking to all the botnet C&C servers, etc. We're still working on it, and I hope the new(er) servers we are putting in will be able to provide better/more info. Hopefully we'll buy some really beefy servers later in the year so that we can do full analysis. I'll send a list of the tools we used later, have to ping my guy for it :) Thanks! This sounds very interesting tbh.
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 04:14:44PM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Paul M wrote: > > > it's **Not clear whatproblem you're actualy trying to solve.** > > > What's so difficult about "need a way to edit crontab with something like > an nCurses" interface? That seems to be, by definition, simple, > point-and-click, definate options, no man pages, no vi editors, ... vi(1) is a ncurses interface. > > > I can imagine a situation where your question is valid and sensible, but > > that would be just be me going off on a tangent - give us some > > background, explain *properly* why the answers you've been given are > > unsatisfactory. > > I have to say, it does sound to me as if you're being deliberately > > obtuse. > > > Certainly not intended, .. however I cannot imagine why the statment above > does not describe the problem accurately & succinctly. > > > Give us the full story, and I'm sure you'll get a very good answer. Or > > several. > > > The chaps tweaking the crontab entries are Windoze admins, and they need > to adjust the start/stop times on cronjobs that start and stop replication > services. It would *seem* that there would be a way to apply all this > fancy technology we have in our toolkits for a simple, point-and-shoot (a > la nCurses) UI that requires no a priori knowledege other than an account > name & password. > > Lee In the time you've been spamming my inbox, every half-competent sysadmin could have learned ncurses(3) and write the perfect(tm) interface for his purpose. I'll just leave this here: http://doxfer.com/Webmin/ScheduledCommands#The_Scheduled_Commands_module
Re: Traffic control
On 06:01, Sat 20 Feb 10, americano wrote: > Hello, Misc. > > Will rewritten (updated and improved) implementation of the existing traffic > control system altq? E_DOESNOTPARSE -- Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.eu http://michiel.vanbaak.eu GnuPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x71C946BD "Why is it drug addicts and computer aficionados are both called users?"
Filtering based on MAC adress
Good morning, Is it possible to do filtering through pf or blocking traffic based of MAC adress recognition ? We want to identify the machines on the internal network based on their MAC adress and filter. Can tools like pf fo this (not in my actual searches) ? another way ? Regards
Re: Filtering based on MAC adress
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:49:54AM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > Good morning, > > Is it possible to do filtering through pf or blocking traffic based of MAC > adress > recognition ? > > We want to identify the machines on the internal network based on their MAC > adress and filter. > > Can tools like pf fo this (not in my actual searches) ? another way ? Although pf cannot filter on mac addresses, you can set up a bridge interface to add tags to packets, which pf can then act upon. > > Regards
Re: Filtering based on MAC adress
Le Samedi 20 Fivrier 2010 12:21:14, Bret S. Lambert a icrit : > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:49:54AM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > > Good morning, > > > > Is it possible to do filtering through pf or blocking traffic based of > > MAC adress recognition ? > > > > We want to identify the machines on the internal network based on their > > MAC adress and filter. > > > > Can tools like pf fo this (not in my actual searches) ? another way ? > > Although pf cannot filter on mac addresses, you can set up a > bridge interface to add tags to packets, which pf can then > act upon. > > > Regards Hello Bret, Can you please briefly explain the principle. I can see ifconfig(8) mentions also that however it is still not clear. I need to make a subnet with a local dhcp server and to filter on this side. I believe I will do some NAT. Regards.
Re: Filtering based on MAC adress
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 01:19:14PM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > Le Samedi 20 Fivrier 2010 12:21:14, Bret S. Lambert a icrit : > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:49:54AM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > > > Good morning, > > > > > > Is it possible to do filtering through pf or blocking traffic based of > > > MAC adress recognition ? > > > > > > We want to identify the machines on the internal network based on their > > > MAC adress and filter. > > > > > > Can tools like pf fo this (not in my actual searches) ? another way ? > > > > Although pf cannot filter on mac addresses, you can set up a > > bridge interface to add tags to packets, which pf can then > > act upon. > > > > > Regards > > Hello Bret, > > Can you please briefly explain the principle. I can see ifconfig(8) mentions > also that however it is still not clear. the brconfig man page has examples of this > > I need to make a subnet with a local dhcp server and to filter on this side. I > believe I will do some NAT. > > Regards.
Re: Filtering based on MAC adress
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 01:19:14PM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > Le Samedi 20 Fivrier 2010 12:21:14, Bret S. Lambert a icrit : > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:49:54AM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > > > Good morning, > > > > > > Is it possible to do filtering through pf or blocking traffic based of > > > MAC adress recognition ? > > > > > > We want to identify the machines on the internal network based on their > > > MAC adress and filter. > > > > > > Can tools like pf fo this (not in my actual searches) ? another way ? > > > > Although pf cannot filter on mac addresses, you can set up a > > bridge interface to add tags to packets, which pf can then > > act upon. > > > > > Regards > > Hello Bret, > > Can you please briefly explain the principle. I can see ifconfig(8) mentions > also that however it is still not clear. PS - ifconfig also mentions brconfig, so you should probably have been able to find that manpage yourself > > I need to make a subnet with a local dhcp server and to filter on this side. I > believe I will do some NAT. > > Regards.