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Re: Scaling DNS with CARP + pf (+ hoststated ?)
In the sense of expanding DNS infrastructure, your comments seem sane enough (you definitely read that DNS & BIND book :-) On the other side, I really need to introduce _additional_ availability of DNS servers/resolvers. This is especially true for resolvers as they are the first layer users are facing. Assume the situation when ordinary Windows user tries to access a web page not yet cached in his box local DNS cache. From my experience, it's needed up to 15 seconds for Windows box to contact the other resolver. And that is something I'm trying to avoid by using high-availability and load-balancing. As already seen, it cannot be done (yet) using hoststated or "rdr" alone because packet payload inspection and modification is needed for it to work, and it is a hack, etc.etc. I was also reading about new features of IP-based load-balancing in carp(4) in the upcoming release of OpenBSD (4.2). It seems that it would be enough to install a farm of OpenBSD resolver boxes with CARP and IP load balancing enabled on the boxes themselves. No external load-balancing boxes, no packet modifications required. Altough, it seems that it does require some extra configuring depending on network equipment being used. Also, IP load-balancing imposses additional load to network equipment. (I'm dealing with Cisco Catalyst 6500 series switches) To conclude my goals: - remove 15 second timeout for end users, - deal with only 2 resolver addresses, - use more than 2 resolver boxes. Anyone successfully running similar scenario ? Cheers (and thanks for all suggestions), r. > reje wrote: > > Yes, we have that much DNS requests hiting our > > servers > > (we are not experiencing any DoS but from > > legitimate > > user requests :-) > > > > Furthermore, the DNS infrastructure tiemouts are > > unacceptable in our scenario. Registering > > additinal NS records is also unacceptable. > > > > FYI: our primary DNS experiences cca. 4000 > > requests per second, secondary goes with cca. 3000 > > req/sec. > > > > Primary server is SUN Fire V480 with 16GB RAM, > > secondary is also SUN Fire V480 with 8GB RAM. > > Both servers are running Solaris 9 + BIND 9. > > Firewall is PIX 535, works like a charm. > > Increase some of your heavily used records' TTLs. > > Add more public slave servers, 5-7 is a good number. > > Have them pull from a hidden master. > > Put some of the servers far away from you, but near > your clients. e.g: London, Franfurt, Paris, Sydney, > where ever (can't do that with load bal). > > If you have both of your only 2 servers in the same > rack, you will have problems. I once saw one idiot > put both DNS servers into Solaris 10 zones on a > single box (e15k). What is the point?? > > I used to work for an ISP serving some popular > domains. Used white i386 boxes in various colo racks > (own and others), nae probs. > > Fire walling was done by Juniper, no load balancing. > > Go re-read the DNS and BIND book. > -- > > > Craig Skinner[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Phone +44 (0) 1506 6730245-digit > shortdial:x73024 > > Sun Remote Support Centre, Linlithgow, Scotland, UK > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
Re: Software freedom
For me it's a consistency problem. It's like selling a sport car with 4x4 tires. First of all, if you opt for an open source system it may be because you are concerned by the aforementioned problem, otherwise you would go for Windows or another proprietary OS. In second comes the issue of having different engineering "procedures" inside your system, and that's never a good thing. "Hey, I think ADA rocks, why not write some parts of the kernel in ADA?" It doesn't mean that the procedures should never change (quite the contrary), it means that they must remain as consistent as possible. "Move as one". I understand the pragmatic approach of wanting to have a working driver as fast as possible, but if this hurts the project consistency and will do more wrong than good in the long term. A binary driver can always be made available as a separate addition. -- Die Gestalt
Re: to zaurus or not to zaurus
On 2007/08/25 00:04, Nick Guenther wrote: > On 8/24/07, frantisek holop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i am planning to go on a longer trip and i am considering buying > > a sub-sub-sub notebookish thingie... > > > > i know openbsd support zaurus quite well, and i have found a promising > > sale of a C3200 for around 500 euros... > > > > the things is, it's surprisingly hard (for me) to find any > > details about these beasts like what can i use it for in > > comparison with a notebook, how is battery life, and you know, > > just how does it fare in everyday usage > > For a trip? Just don't. > The battery life is 7 hours (12 if you pull magic hax of making the > screen turn off when not in use and compulsively put it in standby > most of the time) and a lot less with a wifi card in. Battery life is not too good, but can be extended quite easily at the expense of extra space - same voltage, connector (incl polarity) as Sony PSP so there are plenty of battery packs, solar chargers etc that will work. Given the obvious general limitations (not much ram, not much disk), the things I most dislike are: always running from the internal battery (if you flatten it you can't just plug in another source and go, you need to let it recharge a bit first), and the limited precision of the battery level monitoring. If you can identify how you want to use it that might make the decision easier. Mobile web+ssh, there are probably better choices, but you won't find much else to run a full unix OS without going to 3-4x the size and probably a higher price.
Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?
Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: > Travers Buda wrote: > >> *snip* >> >> Just tell him that OpenBSD in the stead of HP-UX will be >> cheaper, faster to setup, and easier to maintain (because >> of your experience with Open.) Both OpenBSD and HP-UX can >> do LDAP, yes, but it's yourself that makes the difference here. >> >> Oh, and you have much more freedom in picking out your hardware >> (back to the cheap tangent.) >> >> -- >> Travers Buda > > It would be wonderful convince my boss with that argumentbut the > next question he will ask is: "What ifyou die tomorrow?? Who can > maintain the system??... What if you go with HP/UX (or ANYTHING else) and you die tomorrow? Answer is always the same: you have to have more than one capable person on staff who knows the product. It's not just about your death, of course...you DO want to be able to take some time off without having the phone stuck to your ear, right? Cross training people on OpenBSD is much easier -- I bet you have more OpenBSD-capable HW laying around than you do HP/UX capable HW. People can practice at home..and even put systems to use at home. Your resulting system will have to be documented. People will have to look at that documentation and verify its completeness. It doesn't matter what OS and apps you run, you will have to document HOW you implemented your systems. Contrary to many boss's expectation, they can't just pick up the phone and have your replacement magically walk through the door and pick up where you left off. Using a commercial OS doesn't change this, your IMPLEMENTATION must be documented. Your real question is not the OS, but rather the applications that you are running (LDAP in your case). Your hypothetical replacement will spend a lot more time learning your LDAP application and implementation than they will the OS it is running on. Nick.
Re: openbsd instead of cisco vpn client
2007/8/27, Paolo Supino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi > > I came across the following situation: there's network where several > employees have access to a client of theirs using Cisco VPN clients. > To centralize and ease administration I want to put in place an OpenBSD > box that will create a single VPN. > The client is so bearucratic that by the time their paperwork for > setting up a site to site VPN the need for this VPN will be gone. > So is it possible to mimick Cisco VPN client connection with OpenBSD > IPSEC? > You can't with base install since it doesn't support xauth(it's in isakmpd's todo I think), but vpnc works good enough for my needs, which look similar to yours. I need to reset the connection nightly because unreliable ike rekeying, but, other than that, It's stable. http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/vpnc/ Best regards, Samuel
Re: FOSS Open Hardware Documentation
Joco Salvatti wrote: http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/open_chips_wiki_open http://wikis.sun.com/display/FOSSdocs/Home Yay! Action at last. -- Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +44 (0) 1506 673024 5-digit shortdial:x73024 Sun Remote Support Centre, Linlithgow, Scotland, UK
Re: OT Strange Punishment
Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? On 8/28/07, Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found this article interesting. > > http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6204348.html > > -- > Terry > http://tyson.homeunix.org > http://www.UnixByte.com
OT Strange Punishment
I found this article interesting. http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6204348.html -- Terry http://tyson.homeunix.org http://www.UnixByte.com
Re: OT Strange Punishment
On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? Because it would violate his parole? Who cares anyway? If you can't do the time don't do the crime. --- Lars Hansson
Re: OT Strange Punishment
Good point. On 8/28/07, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? > > Because it would violate his parole? Who cares anyway? > If you can't do the time don't do the crime. > > --- > Lars Hansson
Re: openssl: digital envelope routines:EVP_DecryptFinal:bad decrypt
Craig Skinner - Sun Microsystems - Linlithgow - Scotland wrote: Hi lads, Having a wee bit of bother decrypting a dump before a restore following a 4.0 -> 4.1 migration on i386. Different box, same hardware apart from a bigger disk. Solved, was revenge of the wonkey donkey sysadmin (me). Nothing to do with decryption. As I was getting nowhere with /home, I had a go with other slices, such as /var/mail. Decrypted fine using the same commands as before, but bitched about inodes not found on the tape on restore. I finally figured out what I'd done wrong: As the 4.0 box ran out of space, I added another small drive as tmp. I had my script dump to that, then when done, move the dump to /var, thus over-writing last week/months dump when finished. Problem was that I had the small drive mounted async, not very clever when the point of a backup system is to recover in the event of . ...whatever As the old box was not yet "re-purposed" I dumped through ssh via an x-over cable and restored fine. Shame -- Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +44 (0) 1506 673024 5-digit shortdial:x73024 Sun Remote Support Centre, Linlithgow, Scotland, UK
Umass0 Phase Error, residue=0
Hi,
I'm trying to backup my music collection on a msdos/fat formatted
external harddrive. After copying some files, the process 'hangs'.
I'm copying with xfe (gui-file manager) but cp does the same. I'm
not sure when the error exactly occurs. It might be when a
specific file is being operating on but I'm absolutly not sure.
$ sudo disklabel /dev/sd0c
disklabel: warning, DOS partition table with no valid OpenBSD partition
# /dev/sd0c:
type: SCSI
disk: SCSI disk
label: 1600BEVExternal
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 32
tracks/cylinder: 64
sectors/cylinder: 2048
cylinders: 152627
total sectors: 312581808
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0 # microseconds
track-to-track seek: 0 # microseconds
drivedata: 0
16 partitions:
# sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg]
c: 312581808 0 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0 -152627*
i: 31257664263 MSDOS # Cyl 0*-152625*
$ sudo mount -t msdos /dev/sd0i /mnt/usbdevice
$ xfe
Copying Suddenly, xfe stops responding.
After the error, I try to change the directory to /mnt/:
$ cd /mnt/u [TAB]
This shell hangs.
I try to reboot and got the message:
"syncing disks..."
After a few minutes I reset the machine (maybe to early??) and
the system reboots and warns me '/' is not unmounted properly.
Gr, Pieter Verberne
dmesg:
OpenBSD 4.1 (GENERIC) #1435: Sat Mar 10 19:07:45 MST 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,S
S,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR
real mem = 1063677952 (1038748K)
avail mem = 963141632 (940568K)
using 4278 buffers containing 53309440 bytes (52060K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 04/18/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd690, SMBIOS
rev. 2.4 @ 0xe0010 (68 entries)
bios0: LENOVO 9456HTG
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd620/0x9e0
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdea0/272 (15 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 ("Intel 82371FB ISA" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #22 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xea00! 0xcf000/0x1600 0xd0800/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000!
0xe/0x1!
acpi at mainbus0 not configured
cpu0 at mainbus0
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x06130a2506000613
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1000 MHz (1004 mV): speeds: 1667, 1000 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945GM MCH" rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03: aperture at
0xee10, size 0x1000
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
"Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x02: irq 11
azalia0: host: High Definition Audio rev. 1.0
azalia0: codec: Analog Devices AD1981HD (rev. 2.0), HDA version 1.0
azalia0: RIRB time out
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02
pci1 at ppb0 bus 2
bge0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5751M" rev 0x21, BCM5750 C1
(0x4201): irq 11, address 00:16:d3:b5:fd:
30
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02
pci2 at ppb1 bus 3
wpi0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG" rev 0x02: irq 11,
address 00:1b:77:41:2f:59
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02
pci3 at ppb2 bus 4
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02
pci4 at ppb3 bus 12
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: irq 11
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: irq 11
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: irq 11
usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: irq 11
usb3 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3
uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: irq 11
usb4 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub4 at usb4
uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
ppb4 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI" rev 0xe2
pci5 at ppb4 bus 21
cbb0 at pci5 dev
Re: FOSS Open Hardware Documentation
Hi, On 28/08/07, Craig Skinner - Sun Microsystems - Linlithgow - Scotland > Yay! Action at last. Wow! This is great news. What I would really like to see is SMP for sparc64. Hopefully this has become easier now. -- Best Regards Edd --- http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett
Re: OT Strange Punishment
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Lars Hansson wrote: >On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? > >Because it would violate his parole? Who cares anyway? >If you can't do the time don't do the crime. We should all care, because there's actually an important question buried in this: to what extent is it acceptable for 'the government' to demand that someone make substantial or expensive changes in their life merely for its convenience? Note that he isn't complaining about being required to run monitoring software, just about being required to run Windows rather than his accustomed OS (presumably because Windows is the only OS that the government's preferred monitoring software will run on). Dave -- Dave Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: OT Strange Punishment
It just shows how these laws are designed to protect Microsoft at the expense of everyone else. Microsoft has been very effective over the past decades at lobbying congress to "enclose the commons" of computer science. There is a bill before Congress now to roll back patent protection, notably in the field of software. American users of OpenBSD might want to follow this struggle, which is running into massive opposition from non-comp-sci patent holders. On Aug 28, 2007, at 7:15 AM, Terry wrote: > I found this article interesting. > > http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6204348.html > > -- > Terry > http://tyson.homeunix.org > http://www.UnixByte.com > -- Jack J. Woehr Director of Development Absolute Performance, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303-443-7000 ext. 527
Re: OT Strange Punishment
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:19:40AM -0400, Dave Anderson wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Lars Hansson wrote: > > >On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? > > > >Because it would violate his parole? Who cares anyway? > >If you can't do the time don't do the crime. > > We should all care, because there's actually an important question > buried in this: to what extent is it acceptable for 'the government' to > demand that someone make substantial or expensive changes in their life > merely for its convenience? > It is acceptable to the extent that the guy did something illegal, is being punished for it and should consider himself happy that he is allowed to use a computer still. If he were using his ubuntu in a constructive way, he would not be forced to run Windows today. Tough luck. -- sysadmin & coder @ http://www.evilkittens.org/ coder@ http://www.exalead.com/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
Re: maybe OT 3 year anniversay of Chuck Yerkes death
On Monday 27 August 2007, ACP wrote: > > Just wanted to remember you Chuck, take it easy wherever you are. > > diana Thanks Diana! Chuck is a superstar. To this day I can think of no one who as made me laugh more while at the same time teaching me important technical details. There are countless great Chuck stories, from Chuck telling his conservative Wall Street boss who complained about his regular work attire, "shirt, shoes, sober -pick two," to all the hilarious jokes he sent freely as private emails to others in need of help. Chuck always remembered to keep things fun, even the things which he already knew very well... most of us forget to keep things fun when we consider the question mundane, already documented, or common knowledge. -- jcr
Re: Umass0 Phase Error, residue=0
hmm, on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 05:00:32PM +0200, Pieter Verberne said that > umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0 i have met Mr residue a couple of times as well. i think i even asked about it on the list. also with disks/devices that contain msdos partitions. i think once it was clearly when i moved my external disk, and perhaps the cable moved in a wrong way, i catalogued it as a hw issue. a couple of times it happened when i finished copying stuff to my iriver t10 and tried to unmount it. but the files were there... i only write this so that we have something in the archives about it. sorry i can't help. -f -- latin is a real angina gluteus maximus.
Re: FOSS Open Hardware Documentation
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 04:08:02PM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: > On 28/08/07, Craig Skinner - Sun Microsystems - Linlithgow - Scotland > > Yay! Action at last. > > Wow! This is great news. Better late than never, but damn is it late. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation
Re: Radeon X1300 mobile + WXGA - out of luck?
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 03:08:10PM +0200, Eric Elena wrote: > Le dimanche 26 aoC;t 2007 C 22:10 +0200, Joachim Schipper a C)crit : > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 06:39:13PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 03:38:47PM +0200, Eric Elena wrote: > > > > Le samedi 25 aoC;t 2007 C 22:41 +0200, Joachim Schipper a C)crit : > > > > > I just got a laptop (Acer Aspire 5100 `series') with a Radeon video > > > > > card > > > > > (X1300) and a WXGA screen - 1200x800. It was a good deal, but the ATI > > > > > video card had me worried. > > > > > > > > > > Am I correct in thinking that there is no way to get X to display > > > > > 1200x800 (...) > > > > > > > (--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) > > > > > > > > Have you tried to add "Virtual 1200 800" in the subsection display > > > > (section screen)? > > > > > > No; I just tried to play with it, and: > > > > > > - without Option "ShadowFB" "no" the screen is garbled (the bottommost > > > part is not initialized, i.e. displays whatever was displayed there > > > last, and the rest of the screen is repeated in four `bands' - and you > > > can scroll the screen as noted below) > > > - with Option "ShadowFB" "no" the screen displays correctly, but sadly > > > at 1024x800 (or possibly 1024x768). Moving the mouse cursor to the > > > edge scrolls the screen, which, I suppose, is the proper behaviour. Of > > > course, the display is rather slow without ShadowFB, but that's not > > > really a problem. > > > > > > Note that the shadow buffer works fine for any of the `supported' (if > > > wrong) modes like 1024x800. > > > > > > A new log file, with your virtual line and the shadow buffer disabled, > > > is available at > > http://jschipper.dynalias.net/~joachim/posts/20070826/Xorg.0.log, or the > > old URL (I just created that file). > > Can you send your xorg.conf? Sorry for the slow response - yesterday was a *very* busy day. The following configuration works, albeit at the wrong resolution: http://jschipper.dynalias.net/~joachim/posts/20070828/Xorg.conf It also contains some failed attempts that might be interesting (ModeLine ...; Virtual 1200 800 and Option "ShadowFB" "no"). Joachim -- TFMotD: txp (4) - 3Com 3XP Typhoon/Sidewinder (3CR990) 10/100 Ethernet device
Re: Backport drivers from 4.1 to 4.0
I've been watching this thread, perhaps my comments are worth something, or are amusing. Executive summary: track -current. Make releases in step with OpenBSD. On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Kevin Cheng wrote: > Artur, > > Thanks, > > Upgrade code based on release of obsd is easy, but it would a big job to > maintain early released of products based on previous version of obsd. For That sentence contains its own solution: do not maintain old versions. How would one maintain old versions if the underlying OS is frozen? Attempt to back-port fixes. You know this is hard. > example, we would maintain 8 version of products from 3.3 to 4.0 if codes > are upgraded every half years. How do you answer customers who ask why they can't run the up-to-date version of OpenBSD? If your salesman contacted me, saying I had to *downgrade* my OS to Open 3.3 to run your product, I would advise him to call me again when you can support the current OS. Perhaps you should evaluate your development and support cycle. If you support other host OS's besides OpenBSD, then perhaps it would be worth it to put your applications under control of CVS and your releases in some kind of nice package (like an OpenBSD port) and invest in the effort to get autoconf and related tools working with it. A nightmare for you: suppose you are several versions behind the OpenBSD release and a "Category 5" bug afflicts all OS's derived from Tahoe TCP/IP code... Naturally, OpenBSD has the first patches out, but not for the antique versions you support. Now suppose OpenBSD has done something "significant" (like a.out->ELF, a new file system, big rewrite of code so that patches don't apply smoothly, removed support for something evil, whatever) since you last upgraded your apps, so that you can't just recompile and go. Your phones are ringing...your lead developer is on vacation...few of your clients have Old Version source code...A significant package (gnome or java, say ;-) ) is no longer available... Your software uses a bug-feature of gcc withdrawn after a class-action lawsuit... Suppose instead you had been tracking OpenBSD-current and keeping your apps compliant...[*] the patches for the Bug-of-the-Decade appear in -current in about three hours, another three hours and a snapshot is built, you get the snapshot, your apps compile and regress correctly. You then apply the patches for the other supported versions of Open (3 max), and notify your clients/users. You and Open are back in business first, before M$ can even issue a series of denials that Bug-of-the-Decade exists, or certain pseudo-free OS's can grovel and obtain NDAs from SCO. Instead of getting phone calls, you make them: "Mr Valued Client, emergency update to counter Bug-of-the-Decade is available". Client: "What bug is that?" You: "The one you no longer have to worry about." This makes for much goodwill with the client. [*] tracking -current and keeping your apps "married" to -current is how to make a smooth release of your stuff almost immediately after the OpenBSD release is made (or in the best case, simultaneously). An added benefit: as a commercial or other professional developer, you may well discover serious objections to or bugs with a newish feature of OpenBSD while it is in the embryonic phase -- these objections/bugs are easily fixed at this point, either by your end or OpenBSD's, depending. This benefits everyone. Dave
Re: FOSS Open Hardware Documentation
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 04:08:02PM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: > > On 28/08/07, Craig Skinner - Sun Microsystems - Linlithgow - Scotland > > > Yay! Action at last. > > > > Wow! This is great news. > > Better late than never, but damn is it late. Indeed, that is the correct sentiment regarding Sun's action here. The facts of the industry are simply this: Approximately 95% of machine parts are documented (whether they are documented well or not is a totally seperate question). Starting roughly around 1990, Sun put themselves on the path of supplying only the absolute minimum documentation for their machine parts. Meanwhile, the PC really took off, and all the documentation for PC parts has always been out there (minus a few special cases that we have had to fight for). DEC released pretty much all the documentation for the Alpha right from the start, and later a few people pressured HP to release pretty much all the HPPA documentation. That left the largest straggler in the industry: Sun. And the case is that Sun has always had the documentation in-house; because of solid engineering principles in-house they document everything, perhaps because their hardware and software groups are seperated so much. Apple also has done a poor job of documenting their hardware, but looking at the quality of their hardware (with entirely pointless divergences between models that come out 3 months apart) we can guess that maybe we don't want to see them. Finally, there are a few American chip makers that resist the status quo, like Marvell and (to a lesser degree) Broadcom. Even Intel tries to play the open game now. Then there are a handful of (increasingly irrelevant) American wireless chipset manufacturers. But in general there are fewer and fewer closed vendors. But Sun had no excuse for this behaviour in 1990, and it is incredible that only now they will try to redeem it. So I don't say bravo, but I say "about time". They don't get any points from me, because they are so late. I give the most credit to Craig Skinner who started the conversation at Sun with us (he found the right place to push Sun -- right at the top), and David Gwynne for continuing the soft pressure through the last couple of months. My biggest hope is that Sun's cleanup process does not delete too much information from the pages... like descriptions of hardware bugs and the workarounds needed for "best effort" operation. Because we already know that some revisions of Sun hardware have brutally bad bugs that ... even sometimes cannot be worked around.
Re: OT Strange Punishment
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Gilles Chehade wrote: >On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:19:40AM -0400, Dave Anderson wrote: >> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Lars Hansson wrote: >> >> >On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? >> > >> >Because it would violate his parole? Who cares anyway? >> >If you can't do the time don't do the crime. >> >> We should all care, because there's actually an important question >> buried in this: to what extent is it acceptable for 'the government' to >> demand that someone make substantial or expensive changes in their life >> merely for its convenience? > >It is acceptable to the extent that the guy did something illegal, is >being punished for it and should consider himself happy that he is >allowed to use a computer still. > >If he were using his ubuntu in a constructive way, he would not be >forced to run Windows today. Tough luck. But, as I understand the issue, this is _not_ part of his specified punishment -- it's just a side-effect of the manner in which the government wants to impose a portion of his punishment. There appears to be no real reason for it other than the government's convenience. You appear to be arguing that someone convicted of a crime should lose rights under the law beyond those which the law specifies as being taken away. Is this a correct inference? Whether or not you hold that opinion, I certainly don't agree with it -- it's essentially encouraging vigilanteeism. Anyone who thinks that the penalties specified by law don't go far enough should work to change the law, not just ignore it. Dave -- Dave Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
trying to compile frickin pptp proxy
Hi I'm trying to compile frickin pptp proxy on an OpenBSD 4.1 system. The compilation fails with the following errors: g++ -Wall -g -O2 -I/home/paolo/src/frickin/include -L/home/paolo/src/frickin/lib -o frickin2 main.o logger.o configuration.o session.o listener.o entity.o server.o client.o call.o rfc2637.o grehandler.o exception.o nat.o util.o -pthread -lconfig++ g++: main.o: No such file or directory g++: logger.o: No such file or directory g++: configuration.o: No such file or directory g++: session.o: No such file or directory g++: listener.o: No such file or directory g++: entity.o: No such file or directory g++: server.o: No such file or directory g++: client.o: No such file or directory g++: call.o: No such file or directory g++: rfc2637.o: No such file or directory g++: grehandler.o: No such file or directory g++: exception.o: No such file or directory g++: nat.o: No such file or directory g++: util.o: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/paolo/src/frickin/src (line 12 of Makefile.OpenBSD). *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/paolo/src/frickin (line 5 of Makefile). I don't know why, but the objects never get created in the src directory. Does anyone know how to solve it? TIA Paolo
Re: trying to compile frickin pptp proxy
Paolo Supino wrote: > I'm trying to compile frickin pptp proxy on an OpenBSD 4.1 system. You may want to reconsider the experiment with PPTP. It's very difficult to deal with and there appear to be serious problems with the protocol itself, even in later versions: http://www.schneier.com/pptp-faq.html IPsec and SSL are your two serious options: http://www.vpnc.org/vpn-standards.html -Lars
Re: trying to compile frickin pptp proxy
Hi Lars I know about the limitation and their implications, but unfortunately I don't control the other peer and have to live with what I'm given. TIA Paolo Lars Noodin wrote: Paolo Supino wrote: I'm trying to compile frickin pptp proxy on an OpenBSD 4.1 system. You may want to reconsider the experiment with PPTP. It's very difficult to deal with and there appear to be serious problems with the protocol itself, even in later versions: http://www.schneier.com/pptp-faq.html IPsec and SSL are your two serious options: http://www.vpnc.org/vpn-standards.html -Lars
dmesg amd64-current on Sun Fire X4600 M2
Thanks for all posts with dmesgs from Sun Fire X2100 / X4100 / X4200 (although most without M2 suffix). They helped us in our purchasing decision of several such servers with M2 suffix. Please find below the dmesg of amd64.mp-current (snapshot 23-Aug-2007) on a Sun Fire X4600 M2 which is equipped with four dual-core Opteron 8220 CPU, 32 GB of RAM and four built-in NICs. Currently, Sun has a special where you get three X4600 M2s for the price of two. We purchased such a "multipack" to run a large, demanding application related to network security in a virtualised environment. The host OS is Virtual Iron (e.g. a Xen hypervisor) and the guest OSes are RHEL or CentOS respectively. We use two iSCSI SAN disk arrays from EqualLogic to virtualise storage. Unfortunately, our large application does not (yet) run on OpenBSD. However, our firewall cluster is amd64 (pf, pfsync, CARP, pfflowd, etc.) on a pair of relatively "cheap" single dual-core Sun Fire X4100 M2 (will post dmesg later). This cluster also provides a number of infrastructure services, such as for ex. DNS, caching HTTP proxy, reverse proxy (Pound), SSL VPN concentrator (OpenVPN), mail relay, etc. OpenBSD i386-current boots and runs as a guest within Virtual Iron 3.7.4. I intend to post a dmesg as soon as I manage to resolve some weird problem which still prevents me from siphon it to another machine. Regards, Rolf 'top' shows an impressive 8 cores: load averages: 0.19, 0.15, 0.09 19:37:16 20 processes: 19 idle, 1 on processor CPU0 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU1 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU2 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU3 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU4 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU5 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU6 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU7 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle Memory: Real: 10M/57M act/tot Free: 3427M Swap: 0K/1643M used/tot PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATEWAIT TIMECPU COMMAND 28463 root 180 672K 644K idle pause 0:00 0.00% ksh 12385 root 20 3220K 2932K sleep/0 select0:00 0.00% sshd 24344 root 20 844K 1896K sleep/0 poll 0:00 0.00% top 3727 root 20 1144K 1668K sleep/0 select0:00 0.00% sendmail 526 root 20 792K 1376K idle select0:00 0.00% sshd 28736 _syslogd 20 384K 832K sleep/0 poll 0:00 0.00% syslogd 3009 root 20 712K 920K sleep/0 select0:00 0.00% cron 1 root 100 464K 384K idle wait 0:00 0.00% init 27387 root 20 516K 820K idle poll 0:00 0.00% ntpd 19725 root 20 3352K 2932K sleep/5 select0:00 0.00% sshd 23584 _ntp 20 520K 844K idle poll 0:00 0.00% ntpd 7005 root 30 284K 840K idle ttyin 0:00 0.00% getty 4465 root 30 252K 828K idle ttyin 0:00 0.00% getty 32174 root 30 440K 836K idle ttyin 0:00 0.00% getty OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC.MP) #1377: Thu Aug 23 10:52:45 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 3757617152 (3583MB) avail mem = 3635957760 (3467MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfbf20 (83 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "080012 " date 04/19/2007 bios0: Sun Microsystems Sun Fire X4600 M2 acpi at mainbus0 not configured ipmi0 at mainbus0: version 1.5 interface KCS iobase 0xca4/2 spacing 1 mainbus0: Intel MP Specification (Version 1.4) cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8220, 2800.33 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE ,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8220, 2801.17 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE ,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu2: Dual-Core AMD Opteron
Re: dmesg amd64-current on Sun Fire X4600 M2
Rolf Sommerhalder wrote: Please find below the dmesg of amd64.mp-current (snapshot 23-Aug-2007) on a Sun Fire X4600 M2 which is equipped with four dual-core Opteron 8220 CPU, 32 GB of RAM and four built-in NICs. Sadly, the only problem is that you will not be able to use that much memory here.
Re: maybe OT 3 year anniversay of Chuck Yerkes death
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 01:08:25PM -0600, ACP wrote: > Just wanted to remember you Chuck, take it easy wherever you are. We'll hoist a few in his honor at the CapBUG meeting tonight. If you're in the MD/DC area and can join us, please do. http://capbug.org/ -ME
Re: FOSS Open Hardware Documentation
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Edd Barrett wrote: > > What I would really like to see is SMP for sparc64. Hopefully this > has become easier now. The major requirement for SMP on sparc64 is for some extremely talented people having both significant interest and copious amounts of free time. After spending years, if not decades, being yanked around by Sun on requests for proper docs and errata, you can understand why interest in such work isn't very enthusiastic... -about as much of a understatement as saying "a supernova tends to brighten things up." ;-) jcr
Re: OT Strange Punishment
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 12:49:56PM -0400, Dave Anderson wrote: > But, as I understand the issue, this is _not_ part of his specified > punishment -- it's just a side-effect of the manner in which the > government wants to impose a portion of his punishment. There appears > to be no real reason for it other than the government's convenience. As I understand the issue, he agreed to have the goverment monitor all his computer activity. This requires that he run an operating system that will allow that. Does Ubuntu? I guess it's possible, and in that case it would be reasonable to request that the goverment monitor his current OS. Otherwise he needs to change OS or go back to jail. Wasn't that what he agreed to? I'm sorry to say that I suspect him to have known all the time that his parole officer would not be able to monitor his current system, and therefore had no intention to keep his side of the bargain. Emilio
Re: trying to compile frickin pptp proxy
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Paolo Supino wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to compile frickin pptp proxy on an OpenBSD 4.1 system. > The compilation fails with the following errors: > g++ -Wall -g -O2 -I/home/paolo/src/frickin/include > -L/home/paolo/src/frickin/lib -o frickin2 main.o logger.o configuration.o > session.o listener.o entity.o server.o client.o call.o rfc2637.o grehandler.o > exception.o nat.o util.o -pthread -lconfig++ > g++: main.o: No such file or directory > g++: logger.o: No such file or directory > g++: configuration.o: No such file or directory > g++: session.o: No such file or directory > g++: listener.o: No such file or directory > g++: entity.o: No such file or directory > g++: server.o: No such file or directory > g++: client.o: No such file or directory > g++: call.o: No such file or directory > g++: rfc2637.o: No such file or directory > g++: grehandler.o: No such file or directory > g++: exception.o: No such file or directory > g++: nat.o: No such file or directory > g++: util.o: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/paolo/src/frickin/src (line 12 of Makefile.OpenBSD). > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/paolo/src/frickin (line 5 of Makefile). > > I don't know why, but the objects never get created in the src directory. > Does anyone know how to solve it? Maybe they're being created in [somewhere]/obj. Look there; try deleting [somewhere]/obj and recompile. Something is probably goofy in the Makefile. Something is all "fricked" up with "frickin" beyond the developer's subadolescent vocabulary choices. (The word is mildly offensive in English.) Try "find /home/paolo/src/frickin | grep grehandler.o" to find where those .o's are "frickin" going. Maybe the developer intended to use "frickin" gmake. Dave -- "America ... might become dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit." -- John Quincy Adams, July 4, 1821
Re: OT Strange Punishment
On Tuesday 28 August 2007 10:32, you wrote: >There is a bill before Congress now to roll back patent protection, >notably in the field of software. American users of OpenBSD might >want to follow this struggle, which is running into massive opposition >from non-comp-sci patent holders. Software patents were just a bad idea to begin with. Patenting numbers and algorithms is ridiculous. I wish i had a patent on determining the total number of objects in a set when the numbers of objects in all mutually exclusive subsets of the set are known [my lame attempt to translate "addition" into patent-speak]. Imagine how much money i could make if i controlled such a basic operation! Oh wait, civilization as we know it would never have been able to develop and instead of working a "civilized" job at a computer i'd be in out hunting and gathering or (more likely) wouldn't have been born at all. Dan RamaleyDial Center 118, Drake University Network Programmer/Analyst 2407 Carpenter Ave +1 515 271-4540Des Moines IA 50311 USA
Re: OT Strange Punishment
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Emilio Perea wrote: >On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 12:49:56PM -0400, Dave Anderson wrote: >> But, as I understand the issue, this is _not_ part of his specified >> punishment -- it's just a side-effect of the manner in which the >> government wants to impose a portion of his punishment. There appears >> to be no real reason for it other than the government's convenience. > >As I understand the issue, he agreed to have the goverment monitor all >his computer activity. This requires that he run an operating system >that will allow that. Does Ubuntu? I guess it's possible, and in that >case it would be reasonable to request that the goverment monitor his >current OS. Otherwise he needs to change OS or go back to jail. Wasn't >that what he agreed to? > >I'm sorry to say that I suspect him to have known all the time that his >parole officer would not be able to monitor his current system, and >therefore had no intention to keep his side of the bargain. You may be right; all the information I have is what's shown up in this thread, and I've no idea whether anyone has implemented suitable monitoring software for Linux (or exactly how the 'monitoring' requirement was arrived at). But this incident does raise the question of what sort of presumably unintended costs 'the government' should be allowed to impose on _anyone_ at its whim -- and _that_ issue is one which should interest all of us (lest we find ourselves at its sharp end). Dave -- Dave Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 07:07:58PM -0600, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: > Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: >> tried to take a bit of a side adventure and get HP-UX going on a PA-RISC >> machine and it's no walk in the park. for cost, support, compatibility and >> simplicity reasons i've abandoned the project and decided to use other >> OSes instead. > > How was your adventure?? Can you be more specific?? I know the cost > part...obviously it is more cheaper run OpenBSD that HP-UX. But i need > more...something really heavy like "I tried to install an OpenLDAP with > HP-UX and the system load with 2000 users rise to the sky...but the same > number of users with OpenBSD had an incredible performance and never pass > from 10% of load"or whatever... I wrote a huge mail, but essentially: `what Jacob said'. I think that if you manage to convince the right people that a network of smaller nodes has advantages (higher availability, better scalability, lower `TCO' - whatever), OpenBSD - with low cost, good and cheap support, and very competitive performance - becomes a very attractive option. On the other hand, if you really need a 16-core machine with 32 GB of memory, installing OpenBSD gets you cool dmesg pr0n but not a really useful configuration - OpenBSD doesn't perform too well on such beasts. (Although I see Jacob's point in that you can still use OSS even if it's not OpenBSD.) I'd focus my research on this issue. In the end, though, the goal should not be to use what you like best; the goal should be to pick what is best for the business. (And OpenBSD can be a very good fit, and picking something that is not too offensive to the person maintaining it *is* good for the business; but still.) Joachim P.S. One more issue: you *do* realize that getting OpenBSD to authenticate against LDAP is not entirely trivial, right? This might be a serious problem if the LDAP system is to handle network-wide logins... -- TFMotD: dbmmanage (1) - create and update user authentication files in DBM format
Re: 1-wire uow(4) bug ?
Hi i get the following in dmesg with ds9490r-a and ds1820 or iButton uow0 at uhub1 port 1 uow0: Dallas Semiconductor USB-FOB/iBUTTON, rev 1.00/0.02, addr 2 onewire0 at uow0 uow0: read failed, len 128: TIMEOUT uow0: read failed, len 128: TIMEOUT uow0: read failed, len 128: TIMEOUT [...] uow0: read failed, len 128: TIMEOUT uhci_freex: xfer=0xd1572000 not busy, 0x46524545 onewire0 detached uow0 detached uow0 at uhub1 port 1 uow0: Dallas Semiconductor USB-FOB/iBUTTON, rev 1.00/0.02, addr 2 onewire0 at uow0 owid0 at onewire0 "ID" sn 00278837 uhci_freex: xfer=0xd1572900 not busy, 0x46524545 owid0 detached onewire0 detached uow0 detached uhub1: device problem, disabling port 1 uow0 at uhub1 port 1 uow0: Dallas Semiconductor USB-FOB/iBUTTON, rev 1.00/0.02, addr 2 onewire0 at uow0 uow0: read failed, len 128: TIMEOUT uow0: read failed, len 128: TIMEOUT uow0: read failed, len 128: TIMEOUT [...] uow0: read failed, len 128: TIMEOUT uhci_freex: xfer=0xd118dc00 not busy, 0x46524545 onewire0 detached uow0 detached uhub1: device problem, disabling port 1 problem is with computer, usb adapter or sensor ? i try adapter and sensor on another computer with windows and it seems ok (with logtemp). thanks Regards Julien
Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?
Joachim Schipper wrote: P.S. One more issue: you *do* realize that getting OpenBSD to authenticate against LDAP is not entirely trivial, right? This might be a serious problem if the LDAP system is to handle network-wide logins... OpenBSD can not authenticat against an LDAP server. Well, stricly speaking it can, but you have duplicate all accounts on OpenBSD. So realistically it can't.
Re: OT Strange Punishment
I think they simply have the monitoring software for Windows and not for Linux because it has not been bought/developed/whatever. Linux is not the point, it would be the same if he were using hardware that prevents the monitoring (such as a firewall). While I sympathize with what the fellow is running through, I find it a bit out of place that he complains about not being allowed to use Linux when he could be sitting in a cell. Basically the deal is "It's ok you use a computer in a way we can watch the pr0n you l33ch". -- Die Gestalt
Re: FOSS Open Hardware Documentation
>> What I would really like to see is SMP for sparc64. Hopefully this >> has become easier now. > >The major requirement for SMP on sparc64 is for some extremely talented >people having both significant interest and copious amounts of free >time. We have Kettenis. As long as I keep tossing him edge cases of breakage on Ultrasparc machines and he digs into finding out what's going on, we keep making progress. All in due time, but the magic doesn't happen overnight.
Re: OpenBSD Berlin?
Last message regarding OpenBSD Berlin Gabriel set up a mailing list. if you are interested, join it: Mailing list for OpenBSD in Berlin : = --> http://www.abc.se/mailman/listinfo/openbsd-berlin <-- Cheers, Pau PS: Gabriel, did you get my emails re last meeting?
lenovo x61s bsd.mp Obsd 4.2 difficulties et al.
Hi, I am having a couple of issues with obsd on the lenovo x61s... especially the lackage of wireless support, but the driver (Intel 4965AGN) should be ready in 1-2 weeks. I'd like to ask you whether you see some obvious error. I installed -current from a snapshot: uname -a OpenBSD arktomis.bautzi.de 4.2 GENERIC#374 i386 0) The worst problem is when I boot with bsd.mp... the boot process freezes and the last lines I get are as shown in this picture: www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/BSDMP.jpg dmesg for GENERIC is to be found at www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/dmesg_x61s.txt (the last lines come from a digital camera, ignore them) Now... I tried with a bsd.mp from 4.1 in single-user mode as Dave suggested me (boot> hdawhatever:bsd.mp41 -s), to see "what happens". The result? In the place where it just freezes in 4.2, the damned laptop decided to reboot... black screen and reboot... Disgustingly enough, fedora6 live cd recognised the two processors cleanly... 1) halt -p turns the screen black (no shutdown messages) 2) I'm not quite sure the sound is working... look at this --- azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801H HD Audio" rev 0x03: irq 11 mixerctl outputs.master=200,200 mixerctl: field outputs.master does not exist mixerctl -av | grep outputs outputs.dac02.source=hdaudio [ hdaudio adc08 adc09 ] outputs.sel0c.mute=off [ off on ] outputs.sel0c=124,124 outputs.sel0d.mute=off [ off on ] outputs.sel0d=124,124 outputs.green11.mute=off [ off on ] outputs.green11.boost=off [ off on ] outputs.unknown12.mute=off [ off on ] outputs.unknown12.boost=off [ off on ] outputs.unknown13.mute=off [ off on ] outputs.unknown13=120 outputs.red14=85,85 outputs.unknown15=85,85 outputs.unknown16.mute=off [ off on ] outputs.unknown16.dir=input [ input output ] outputs.pow19.source=mix20 [ mix20 sel21 ] outputs.black1b.mute=off [ off on ] outputs.black1b=126,126 outputs.red1c.mute=off [ off on ] outputs.red1c.dir=input [ input output ] outputs.widget1d.source=mix07 [ mix07 pow19 mix0a black1a red1c green11 mix1e ] outputs.sel21.mute=off [ off on ] outputs.sel21=120,120 outputs.sel25=85,85 outputs.widget26.source=red14 [ red14 unknown15 red1c ] What should I change? --- 3) The clock was set wrongly... I had to : -- arktomis| ls -lart /etc/localtime lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 33 Aug 27 21:10 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin arktomis| sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/Europe/Berlin /etc/localtime ln: /etc/localtime: File exists arktomis| sudo ln -fs /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/Europe/Berlin /etc/localtime arktomis| ls -lart /etc/localtime lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 39 Aug 29 20:20 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/Europe/Berlin arktomis| sudo rdate -ncv ptbtime1.ptb.de Tue Aug 28 22:20:50 CEST 2007 rdate: adjust local clock by -79186.490511 seconds -- After that I adjusted crontab of root as suggested in the man page... Any hint regarding the bsd.mp thing? Am I stupid? If so, I ask for mercy and not to be immediately stoned Cheers, Pau
Re: openbsd instead of cisco vpn client
I've successfully built a site to site vpn between openbsd and cisco gear, both the 3000 series concentrators and asa 5520's. This might help. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=117242498422792&w=2 This details my setup that finally worked. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=117245629704699&w=2 Otherwise the vpnc client in ports works fine to connect one openbsd box to a cisco vpn. Good luck. _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wl mailtagline
Re: trying to compile frickin pptp proxy
Hi Thank you!!! I had the feeling that the problem is in the Makefile.OpenBSD, but didn't know how to fix it. Doing what you suggested below solved the problem and I'm now able to build frickin proxy. Now I have to make it work ... TIA Paolo Marmotic Marvel wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Marmotic Marvel wrote: The compilation fails with the following errors: g++ -Wall -g -O2 -I/home/paolo/src/frickin/include -L/home/paolo/src/frickin/lib -o frickin2 main.o logger.o configuration.o session.o listener.o entity.o server.o client.o call.o rfc2637.o grehandler.o exception.o nat.o util.o -pthread -lconfig++ g++: main.o: No such file or directory g++: logger.o: No such file or directory g++: configuration.o: No such file or directory g++: session.o: No such file or directory g++: listener.o: No such file or directory g++: entity.o: No such file or directory g++: server.o: No such file or directory g++: client.o: No such file or directory g++: call.o: No such file or directory g++: rfc2637.o: No such file or directory g++: grehandler.o: No such file or directory g++: exception.o: No such file or directory g++: nat.o: No such file or directory g++: util.o: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/paolo/src/frickin/src (line 12 of Makefile.OpenBSD). *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/paolo/src/frickin (line 5 of Makefile). I don't know why, but the objects never get created in the src directory. Does anyone know how to solve it? I've since dloaded the tar file. I duplicate your error. It is not a make/gmake problem. I would suggest you complain to the program's developers. The Makefiles may be broken. They are not written to use /usr/share/mk/bsd* I think the makefiles need a rule to make .o from .cpp. The src/Makefile.OpenBSD looks "funny" to me. It needs rules after the lines like main.o: main.cpp listener.hpp session.hpp grehandler.hpp exception.hpp logger.hp p $(CXX) -o $@ -c $(CXXFLAGS) main.cpp I believe this will help, you need similar lines all through the makefile. Dave
sendmail WANT_SMTPAUTH=yes broken in -current
Hello misc@, today my long-working automatic installer broke because sendmail doesn't compile, or to be more exact install with WANT_SMTPAUTH anymore. How to reproduce? pkg_info | grep -i sasl cyrus-sasl-2.1.22p1 echo "pwcheck_method: saslauthd" > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf \ || return 1 echo "pwcheck_method: saslauthd" > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Cyrus.conf \ || return 1 chmod 444 /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf \ /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Cyrus.conf || return 1 echo "WANT_SMTPAUTH=YES" >> /etc/mk.conf || return 1 # Build new sendmail (cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.sbin/sendmail || die "Error no src dir"; \ make clean >> /root/sendmail_sasl.log 2>&1; \ make >> /root/sendmail_sasl.log 2>&1\ || die "Error in make"; \ make install >> /root/sendmail_sasl.log 2>&1\ || die "Error in make install"; \ make clean >> /root/sendmail_sasl.log 2>&1 \ || err "Error in make clean") || return 1 # tail -30 /root/sendmail_sasl.log install -c -o root -g bin -m 444 mailq.cat8 /usr/share/man/cat8/mailq.0 install -c -o root -g bin -m 444 newaliases.cat8 /usr/share/man/cat8/newaliases.0 install -c -o root -g bin -m 444 sendmail.cat8 /usr/share/man/cat8/sendmail.0 /usr/share/man/cat1/hoststat.0 -> /usr/share/man/cat8/sendmail.0 /usr/share/man/cat1/purgestat.0 -> /usr/share/man/cat8/sendmail.0 ===> mailstats install -c -s -o root -g bin -m 555 mailstats /usr/sbin/mailstats install -c -o root -g bin -m 444 mailstats.cat8 /usr/share/man/cat8/mailstats.0 ===> makemap install -c -s -o root -g bin -m 555 makemap /usr/sbin/makemap install -c -o root -g bin -m 444 makemap.cat8 /usr/share/man/cat8/makemap.0 ===> praliases install -c -s -o root -g bin -m 555 praliases /usr/sbin/praliases install -c -o root -g bin -m 444 praliases.cat1 /usr/share/man/cat1/praliases.0 ===> smrsh install -c -s -o root -g bin -m 555 smrsh /usr/libexec/smrsh install -c -o root -g bin -m 444 smrsh.cat8 /usr/share/man/cat8/smrsh.0 ===> editmap install -c -s -o root -g bin -m 555 editmap /usr/sbin/editmap install -c -o root -g bin -m 444 editmap.cat8 /usr/share/man/cat8/editmap.0 ===> cf/cf ===> doc/op install -c -o root -g bin -m 444 Makefile op.me /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop install: Target: /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.sbin/sendmail/doc/op (line 47 of /usr/share/mk/bsd.doc.mk). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.sbin/sendmail. I'm not sure when it broke, but it somehow did. Can somebody try to reproduce this? Regards, ahb
sendmail reject and access_db question
Our domain gets e-mails from Company A, but as the log below shows they are rejected because the Message-ID field is invalid: Aug 28 14:21:44 grimace sm-mta[15540]: STARTTLS=server, relay=host234.companya.com [65.218.114.XXX], version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA, bits=168/168 Aug 28 14:21:44 mail sm-mta[15540]: l7SJLhXB015540: ruleset=CheckMessageId, arg1=<9b8e85b6-da30-4786-9d24-217d43a0ddf2>, relay=host234.companya.com [65.218.114.XXX], reject=553 5.0.0 Header Error Aug 28 14:21:44 grimace sm-mta[15540]: l7SJLhXB015540: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=780, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<9b8e85b6-da30-4786-9d24-217d43a0ddf2>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=host234.companya.com [65.218.114.XXX] I understand this is most probably a problem on their end. However, I can't fix that and am wondering if there is anything I can do to accept these e-mails. I tried adding "companya.com OK" to the /etc/mail/access file and ran "makemap hash /etc/mail/access < /etc/mail/access". sendmail is still rejecting the e-mails. I don't want to completely disable the CheckMessageId check in my config file. Am I even using the access file correctly or is there any other way to accept these e-mails? I am on OpenBSD 3.9-RELEASE with the default sendmail configuration from it. Thanks for any help, Kareem Dana
working 802.11a/g/n adapters...
are there any?
Re: working 802.11a/g/n adapters...
I know that there is a intel 4965agn driver in the works. I am unaware of any others, and last time I checked even ralink was not responding favorably to documentation requests. Sam Fourman Jr. On 8/28/07, poncenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > are there any?
Re: working 802.11a/g/n adapters...
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 07:48:39PM -0500, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > I know that there is a intel 4965agn driver in the works. > I am unaware of any others, and last time I checked even ralink was not > responding favorably to documentation requests. > > Sam Fourman Jr. > > On 8/28/07, poncenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > are there any? Ralink has some 802.11n devices on the work but they're not supported (yet). -- Sergey Prysiazhnyi
Energy saving AMD 64 X2 EE CPU possible?
Hi, I run my OpenBSD firewallsystem on a System which is way oversized for my needs. I want this system to consume as little power as possible so I need your advices. I started the apmd with the option - C but the apm output is the following: Battery state: unknown, 0% remaining, unknown life estimate A/C adapter state: not known Performance adjustment mode: cool running (2009 MHz) So the CPU is still running at full speed! Here is my dmesg output for the cpu: cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, 2009.58 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36, CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, 2009.26 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36, CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative Can I do something about this or is this simply not supported? Is there anything more I can do to reduce power consumption of my system? Thanks in advance! James
Re: openbsd instead of cisco vpn client
Hi Samuel Great, thank you for the information. I will take a look at it and try it :-) TIA Paolo Samuel Moqux wrote: 2007/8/27, Paolo Supino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi I came across the following situation: there's network where several employees have access to a client of theirs using Cisco VPN clients. To centralize and ease administration I want to put in place an OpenBSD box that will create a single VPN. The client is so bearucratic that by the time their paperwork for setting up a site to site VPN the need for this VPN will be gone. So is it possible to mimick Cisco VPN client connection with OpenBSD IPSEC? You can't with base install since it doesn't support xauth(it's in isakmpd's todo I think), but vpnc works good enough for my needs, which look similar to yours. I need to reset the connection nightly because unreliable ike rekeying, but, other than that, It's stable. http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/vpnc/ Best regards, Samuel
Linux Driver Violates BSD License
Normally I wouldn't repeat undeadly stuff here on misc@, but I'm sure many of you will want to know. http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20070829001634 And if you do this kind of thing, it's worth letting the rest of the world in on this: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Lnux_Driver_Violated_BSD_License -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation
Re: Scaling DNS with CARP + pf (+ hoststated ?)
On 8/27/07, reje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm wondering is there a way to scale DNS service > using OpenBSD's CARP and loadbalancing/pool features > of pf ? How about hoststated(8) ? (as I know > hoststated(8) doesn't support UDP right now) You can do it with a pf table and with a small program that polls your dns caches and remove/add entries to the table. Agreed, it would be very nice if hoststated supported DNS but currently it doesn't. It does supported scripted checks though so that may also be an option. --- Lars Hansson
Re: OT Strange Punishment
> But, as I understand the issue, this is _not_ part of his specified > punishment -- it's just a side-effect of the manner in which the > government wants to impose a portion of his punishment. If he don't like it he could always take the alternative; going to jail. All things considered, being forced to run Windows for a few months isn't all that big a sacrifice when the alternative is sharing cell with Bubba. > You appear to be arguing that someone convicted of a crime should lose > rights under the law beyond those which the law specifies as being taken > away. Is this a correct inference? I don't think think running Linux is a basic human right. --- Lars Hansson
Re: OT Strange Punishment
Lars Hansson wrote: I don't think think running Linux is a basic human right. I'm not aware that using a computer is a basic human right...
Re: Scaling DNS with CARP + pf (+ hoststated ?)
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, reje wrote: >On the other side, I really need to introduce >_additional_ availability of DNS servers/resolvers. >This is especially true for resolvers as they are the >first layer users are facing. Assume the situation >when ordinary Windows user tries to access a web page >not yet cached in his box local DNS cache. From my >experience, it's needed up to 15 seconds for Windows >box to contact the other resolver. And that is >something I'm trying to avoid by using >high-availability and load-balancing. > >As already seen, it cannot be done (yet) using >hoststated or "rdr" alone because packet payload >inspection and modification is needed for it to work, >and it is a hack, etc.etc. > >I was also reading about new features of IP-based >load-balancing in carp(4) in the upcoming release of >OpenBSD (4.2). It seems that it would be enough to >install a farm of OpenBSD resolver boxes with CARP and >IP load balancing enabled on the boxes themselves. No >external load-balancing boxes, no packet modifications >required. Altough, it seems that it does require some >extra configuring depending on network equipment being >used. Also, IP load-balancing imposses additional load >to network equipment. (I'm dealing with Cisco Catalyst >6500 series switches) > >To conclude my goals: >- remove 15 second timeout for end users, I'm not a DNS guru, nor do I play one on the 'net, but it seems to me that if you're routinely taking 15 seconds to get a response to a DNS query, something is broken! >- deal with only 2 resolver addresses, >- use more than 2 resolver boxes. Am I correct in inferring that the problem here is that the Windows boxes can't handle more than 2 resolver addresses? If so, and if they're getting their DNS-server information via DHCP, it might be much easier and almost as effective to hack the DHCP server to have a large pool of DNS-server addresses and randomly(?) select two of them to provide in each response it sends. Dave -- Dave Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: trying to compile frickin pptp proxy
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Paolo Supino wrote:
> Hi
> Thank you!!!
> I had the feeling that the problem is in the Makefile.OpenBSD, but
> didn't know how to fix it. Doing what you suggested below solved the
> problem and I'm now able to build frickin proxy.
>
> Now I have to make it work ...
>
>
>
> TIA
> Paolo
For some reason, 4.1 /usr/share/mk/sys.mk lacks suffix rules
for .cpp This can be fixed by duplicating and then appropriately
changing the set of rules for .cxx, and adding .cpp to the
list of suffixes near the top of sys.mk. There may be reasons
not to do this, but I don't know them.
If you get the chance, inform the author of the proxy.
Dave
This patch seems to do the job:
8<--
--- sys.mk.orig Tue May 22 04:09:58 2007
+++ sys.mk Tue Aug 28 15:51:31 2007
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
OSREV= $(OSMAJOR).$(OSMINOR)
OSrev= $(OSMAJOR)$(OSMINOR)
-.SUFFIXES: .out .a .ln .o .c .cc .C .cxx .F .f .r .y .l .s .S .cl .p .h .sh
.m4
+.SUFFIXES: .out .a .ln .o .c .cc .C .cxx .F .f .r .y .l .s .S .cl .p .h .sh
.m4 .cpp
.LIBS: .a
@@ -121,6 +121,15 @@
.cxx.o:
${COMPILE.cc} ${.IMPSRC}
.cxx.a:
+ ${COMPILE.cc} ${.IMPSRC}
+ ${AR} ${ARFLAGS} $@ $*.o
+ rm -f $*.o
+
+.cpp:
+ ${LINK.cc} -o ${.TARGET} ${.IMPSRC} ${LDLIBS}
+.cpp.o:
+ ${COMPILE.cc} ${.IMPSRC}
+.cpp.a:
${COMPILE.cc} ${.IMPSRC}
${AR} ${ARFLAGS} $@ $*.o
rm -f $*.o
Re: Linux Driver Violates BSD License
On 8/28/07, Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Normally I wouldn't repeat undeadly stuff here on misc@, but I'm sure > many of you will want to know. > > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20070829001634 > > > And if you do this kind of thing, it's worth letting the rest of the > world in on this: > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Lnux_Driver_Violated_BSD_License I am currently having a discussion about dual licensing, and am a bit confused. Is Reyk and others working on this drivers code dual licensed (from the diff it doesn't seem like it is, since I see a BSD 3 Clause)? Also say I submit a patch for this driver, does that mean this will have to be dual licensed also or can I choose if it is BSD 3 Clause or GPLv2?
Re: Linux Driver Violates BSD License
> On 8/28/07, Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Normally I wouldn't repeat undeadly stuff here on misc@, but I'm sure
> > many of you will want to know.
> >
> > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20070829001634
> >
> >
> > And if you do this kind of thing, it's worth letting the rest of the
> > world in on this:
> > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Lnux_Driver_Violated_BSD_License
>
> I am currently having a discussion about dual licensing, and am a bit
> confused. Is Reyk and others working on this drivers code dual
> licensed (from the diff it doesn't seem like it is, since I see a BSD
> 3 Clause)? Also say I submit a patch for this driver, does that mean
> this will have to be dual licensed also or can I choose if it is BSD 3
> Clause or GPLv2?
Well, there are two parts to the Atheros driver.
Reyk's code is *NOT* dual-licensed under the GPL. So there is no
issue with Reyk's code. He has explicitly stated that his code is not
dual-licenced. The file have no GPL on them. He's the author, he
said so. None else can add a GPL to it. (No matter how much Luis
begs and pleads and whines).
The other part of the driver was written by Sam Leffler. Sam's code,
though, is dual-licenced with a 4-term BSD'ish license (it has only 3
terms, but the wrong term was deleted, and the attribution term was
actually strengthened -- read the license). The GPL annotation in the
licenses says specifically --
* Alternatively, this software may be distributed under the terms of the
* GNU General Public License ("GPL") version 2 as published by the Free
* Software Foundation.
Note that word "Alternatively".
That means "or".
That means that if anyone makes changes to that file and distributes it,
after their changes are in the file then EITHER license will apply.
Since it says "Alternatively" / "Or", we can simply take any of those
new changes UNDER THE LICENSE WE PREFER, and commit them to our file
which is NOT dual licensed. If they want to use the GPL to restrict
our use -- that is us, the original authors, see -- they should work
on seperate files.
Note there are some files out there that don't use words like "or" or
"alternatively" when they mix licenses. One must read what the
license says very carefully. Trying to brush everything into the same
simple catagories will get you nowhere.
As a commentary, it seems as if many people have tired of the "make my
own license" game, and now are playing the "mix licenses in my own
way" game. And the "interpret it in the way that is most beneficial
to me" game.
Simpler said, I don't know why they have to be such jerks. Luis in
particular has been ragging on Reyk for years to dual license his
code, and won't take no for an answer. It's already totally free code,
but apparently there is some stupid Linus rule that says that all the
code must not be free n it can't just be free, it has to
be SPECIFICALLY GPL. Now I know that's not the truth, because the Linux
tree is FULL of objectional code that either has CSRG licences on it, or
no license at all.
Now he's saying that Linux people should basically ignore Reyk's
license. Well screw you Luis, that is precisely not what you will do
-- you uneducated twit. Copyright is law. You will obey it.
Anyways, hope that explained the question you asked, FOR THIS PARTICULAR
CASE. As I say, read the exact files, and the exact licenses.
Re: lenovo x61s bsd.mp Obsd 4.2 difficulties et al.
On 8/28/07, Vim Visual <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I am having a couple of issues with obsd on the lenovo x61s... > especially the lackage of wireless support, but the driver (Intel > 4965AGN) should be ready in 1-2 weeks. > > I'd like to ask you whether you see some obvious error. > > I installed -current from a snapshot: > > uname -a > OpenBSD arktomis.bautzi.de 4.2 GENERIC#374 i386 > > 0) The worst problem is when I boot with bsd.mp... the boot process > freezes and the last lines I get are as shown in this picture: > > www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/BSDMP.jpg > > dmesg for GENERIC is to be found at > > www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/dmesg_x61s.txt > > (the last lines come from a digital camera, ignore them) > > Now... I tried with a bsd.mp from 4.1 in single-user mode as Dave suggested me > (boot> hdawhatever:bsd.mp41 -s), to see "what happens". The result? > > In the place where it just freezes in 4.2, the damned laptop decided to > reboot... black screen and reboot... > > Disgustingly enough, fedora6 live cd recognised the two processors cleanly... > > 1) halt -p turns the screen black (no shutdown messages) > > 2) I'm not quite sure the sound is working... look at this > > --- > azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801H HD Audio" rev 0x03: irq > 11 > > mixerctl outputs.master=200,200 > mixerctl: field outputs.master does not exist > > mixerctl -av | grep outputs > outputs.dac02.source=hdaudio [ hdaudio adc08 adc09 ] > outputs.sel0c.mute=off [ off on ] > outputs.sel0c=124,124 > outputs.sel0d.mute=off [ off on ] > outputs.sel0d=124,124 > outputs.green11.mute=off [ off on ] > outputs.green11.boost=off [ off on ] > outputs.unknown12.mute=off [ off on ] > outputs.unknown12.boost=off [ off on ] > outputs.unknown13.mute=off [ off on ] > outputs.unknown13=120 > outputs.red14=85,85 > outputs.unknown15=85,85 > outputs.unknown16.mute=off [ off on ] > outputs.unknown16.dir=input [ input output ] > outputs.pow19.source=mix20 [ mix20 sel21 ] > outputs.black1b.mute=off [ off on ] > outputs.black1b=126,126 > outputs.red1c.mute=off [ off on ] > outputs.red1c.dir=input [ input output ] > outputs.widget1d.source=mix07 [ mix07 pow19 mix0a black1a red1c green11 > mix1e ] > outputs.sel21.mute=off [ off on ] > outputs.sel21=120,120 > outputs.sel25=85,85 > outputs.widget26.source=red14 [ red14 unknown15 red1c ] > > What should I change? > --- > > 3) The clock was set wrongly... I had to : > > -- > arktomis| ls -lart /etc/localtime > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 33 Aug 27 21:10 /etc/localtime -> > /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin > arktomis| sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/Europe/Berlin > /etc/localtime > ln: /etc/localtime: File exists > arktomis| sudo ln -fs /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/Europe/Berlin > /etc/localtime > arktomis| ls -lart /etc/localtime > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 39 Aug 29 20:20 /etc/localtime -> > /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/Europe/Berlin > arktomis| sudo rdate -ncv ptbtime1.ptb.de > Tue Aug 28 22:20:50 CEST 2007 > rdate: adjust local clock by -79186.490511 seconds > -- > After that I adjusted crontab of root as suggested in the man page... > > Any hint regarding the bsd.mp thing? > > Am I stupid? If so, I ask for mercy and not to be immediately stoned > > Cheers, > > Pau > > Tried enable ACPI? br dunceor
Re: lenovo x61s bsd.mp Obsd 4.2 difficulties et al.
"Vim Visual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am having a couple of issues with obsd on the lenovo x61s... fwiw, my r60 has always been a lot more pleasant with bsd.mp after 'enable acpi'. As in, 1) at the boot prompt type boot bsd.mp -c 2) at the prompt type enable acpi if that works better, use the config -e magic per the faq hope this helps you along a bit Cheers, -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
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