[MlMt] update - what to copy from the old Mac to the new one in order to preserve EVERYTHING in MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hey,

I'll switch Macs in a couple of days and I want to have MailMate just 
like it is now 😉 on the new Mac.


Last time I did something similar I installed MailMate on the new Mac 
and before starting it I copied from the old Mac the following files & 
folders:


~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/*.plist
~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/
~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Bundles/
~/Library/Preferences/com.freron.MailMate.plist

Is this still the way to do this or did something changed?

Thanks!


Regards,
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[MlMt] How to generate an OmniFocus-Task from an email in MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I’ve just switched from Mail.app to MailMate and I would like to 
create a task in OmniFocus from an email.


Any idea how to do this?

Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] How to generate an OmniFocus-Task from an email in MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Thank you, Thomas, I didn’t know this!


Regards,
Vlad




On 13 Jan 2016, at 9:01, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

I am not using OmniFocus but I believe you can use the OmniFocus 
bundle configurable through the preferences „Bundles“ and then 
available through the menu „Command“.


--Thomas

On 13 Jan 2016, at 2:05, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


Hello!


I’ve just switched from Mail.app to MailMate and I would like to 
create a task in OmniFocus from an email.


Any idea how to do this?

Thanks!


Regards,
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[MlMt] How to make a smart mailbox for a Mailing List?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I would like to make a smart mailbox in MailMate that contains all of 
the mails from the BBEdit-Talk Google Discussion-Group.


All of the mails in this group have in the To-field this email-address 
„bbe...@googlegroups.com“, so I have made a smart mailbox with the 
condition showed in the attachment.


However the mailbox doesn’t seem to work: I see only a single email in 
this mailbox but I have a couple more in my Inbox.


What have I done wrong?

Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] How to make a smart mailbox for a Mailing List?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 15 Jan 2016, at 23:19, Sherif Soliman wrote:


On 15 Jan 2016, at 17:04, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


Hello!


I would like to make a smart mailbox in MailMate that contains all of 
the mails from the BBEdit-Talk Google Discussion-Group.


All of the mails in this group have in the To-field this 
email-address „bbe...@googlegroups.com“, so I have made a smart 
mailbox with the condition showed in the attachment.


However the mailbox doesn’t seem to work: I see only a single email 
in this mailbox but I have a couple more in my Inbox.




Emails from a mailing list usually have a "List-id" header that works 
better for smart mailboxes or rules than the "To" header.


Try changing the condition of the smart mailbox to "List-id" being 
equal to "bbedit.googlegroups.com" (which is the list id of the BBEdit 
mailing list).


You can do this by clicking on the dropdown menu that currently says 
"Recipient (To, Cc, Bcc)", scrolling all the way down to "Other..." 
and filtering the list to find "List-id" and checking that to put it 
in the menu.


Then you should be able to choose it as the condition and set its 
value to bbedit.googlegroups.com


Hopefully that helps.

Another thing is to make sure you are choosing the right Mailboxes in 
the Mailboxes tab.


Finally, you can find the List-id of emails from other mailing lists 
by opening a message from that list, then clicking View > Show Raw 
Message, and looking for the "List-id' header, for example:


List-Id: MailMate Users 

Sherif


Hello, Sherif!


Thanks for the detailed reply!

I didn’t know about the List-id.
Following your advice I could easily change the condition.

How to see the raw message was also on my huge MailMate-question-list 
:-).


Thanks again!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] How to make a smart mailbox for a Mailing List?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello, Benny!


On 15 Jan 2016, at 23:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 15 Jan 2016, at 23:04, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

I would like to make a smart mailbox in MailMate that contains all of 
the mails from the BBEdit-Talk Google Discussion-Group.


All of the mails in this group have in the To-field this 
email-address „bbe...@googlegroups.com“, so I have made a smart 
mailbox with the condition showed in the attachment.


However the mailbox doesn’t seem to work: I see only a single email 
in this mailbox but I have a couple more in my Inbox.


What have I done wrong?


You already got some advice,


Yes, clear and helpful - thanks again! The mailing list is becoming a 
strong argument for MailMate too :-)



but just to answer this question: You should not use `"<...>"` since 
the less/greater than symbols are not necessarily part of the To 
header.


Oh, I didn’t see this!
I’ve just copied an email-address from the BBEdit-Talk-Googlegroup and 
probably it was copied in this form.



Also, it is always better to use the “is” comparison method 
instead of “contains” when possible (and it's most often 
possible).


That was how I had first made the rule, but it listed only one email so 
I’ve begun to make the condition less strict.




In this case, the best condition would probably be:

To ▸ Address [is] “bbe...@googlegroups.com”


Understood!



Let me know if that does not work.


It work well now, thanks!



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Regards,
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[MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello again!


I’m using MailMate with SpamSieve as a spam-filter.

Coming from Mail.app I was used to just press CTRL-CMD-S in order to 
mark an email as SPAM and move it to the SPAM-folder.


I was searching for the same in MailMate… whitout success until now!
So here comes my next question:

Is there a way to

1. Change the „Junk State“ to „Junk“ and after this
2. „Move to Junk“

a chosen email in MailMate?

Thanks!


Regards,
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[MlMt] Keyboard-shortcuts for navigating MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello again!


Speaking of keyboard-shortcuts: how can one switch to Inbox / Drafts / 
Sent Messages / Junk / Deleted Mssages with keyboard-shortcuts?


In Mail.app there were CMD-1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / etc. if one put the 
folder in this order as favorites folder. Is there something similar in 
MailMate?


Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello, Thomas!


Thanks for your reply!


On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:35, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

I believe it is enough to move the message to junk and SpamSieve 
recognizes the messages as junk. This is possible via the Message 
menu, via the context menu (left click) or via the shortcut 
SHIFT-CMD-J.


SHIFT-CMD-J is what I’ve looking for (and a good enough compromise to 
CTRL-CMD-S ;-)



Of course, you can change the junk state as well through the same 
menus. However, I believe there is no default shortcut for that so you 
would need to create a custom keybinding.


Is there a place in MailMate to do this or is something I do in system 
preferences / Keyboard Maestro?




--Thomas


Thanks again!
Vlad






On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:11, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


Hello again!


I’m using MailMate with SpamSieve as a spam-filter.

Coming from Mail.app I was used to just press CTRL-CMD-S in order to 
mark an email as SPAM and move it to the SPAM-folder.


I was searching for the same in MailMate… whitout success until 
now!

So here comes my next question:

Is there a way to

1. Change the „Junk State“ to „Junk“ and after this
2. „Move to Junk“

a chosen email in MailMate?

Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] Keyboard-shortcuts for navigating MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

I saw this too, but it’s

1. CMD-T
2. down arrow
3. enter

(= 3 keytrokes)

instead of CMD-1 (= only one keystroke)


On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:39, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

I am using CMD-T (ALT-CMD-T for moving) to select specific mailboxes. 
MM searches as you type and learns what is searched most.


--Thomas

On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:17, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


Hello again!


Speaking of keyboard-shortcuts: how can one switch to Inbox / Drafts 
/ Sent Messages / Junk / Deleted Mssages with keyboard-shortcuts?


In Mail.app there were CMD-1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / etc. if one put the 
folder in this order as favorites folder. Is there something similar 
in MailMate?


Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:43, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

Is there a place in MailMate to do this or is something I do in 
system preferences / Keyboard Maestro?



It is a bit more tricky but explains in the MailMate help: Help menu

I do not know whether this link works:

file:///Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/MailMate%20Help/custom_key_bindings.html


It works, thanks!
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Re: [MlMt] Keyboard-shortcuts for navigating MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Yes, custom key bindings - I’m reading from your link, thanks!


On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:44, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

Then: custom key bindings... (I believe there are no default 
shortcuts).


:-)

--Thomas

On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:42, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


I saw this too, but it’s

1. CMD-T
2. down arrow
3. enter

(= 3 keytrokes)

instead of CMD-1 (= only one keystroke)


On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:39, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

I am using CMD-T (ALT-CMD-T for moving) to select specific 
mailboxes. MM searches as you type and learns what is searched most.


--Thomas

On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:17, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


Hello again!


Speaking of keyboard-shortcuts: how can one switch to Inbox / 
Drafts / Sent Messages / Junk / Deleted Mssages with 
keyboard-shortcuts?


In Mail.app there were CMD-1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / etc. if one put the 
folder in this order as favorites folder. Is there something 
similar in MailMate?


Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hi, Fredrik!


On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:54, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:

I have a blog post where you find the keybinding I use at 
.


That sound exactly like what I was looking for! Thanks!
And editing in BBEdit is a bonus (= one of the many questions of my 
MailMate-list ;-).


I’ll take a deeper look right now and try to implement your 
keybindings.


Thanks again!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello again, Fredrik!


On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:54, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:


Vlad Ghitulescu 2016-01-16 19:39 wrote:

Is there a place in MailMate to do this or is something I do in 
system preferences / Keyboard Maestro?


Custom key bindings is one of MailMates killer features in my opinion, 
everything can be done from the keyboard.


Manual here: <http://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings>

I have a blog post where you find the keybinding I use at 
<http://xdeb.org/node/1608>.


I’ve read everything, took shamelessly ;-) your .plist-file, commented 
everything and started to test.


No problems at all with:

"n" = "newMessage:";
"m" = "moveToMailbox:";
"j" = ( "markAsJunk:", "moveToJunk:" );
"J" = ( "markAsNotJunk:" );
"g" = "goToMailbox:";

**but** no success (even no reaction at all) with:

"i" = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX" );

Perhaps because I have 3 accounts in MailMate (already ;-) and 
correspondently 3 different INBOXes?




Fredrik


Vlad


P.S. 2. question on using the bbedit-command. I’ve started this reply 
in MailMate, switched over to BBEdit with CTRL-CMD-O, finished the 
message, saved and closed - in order to return to MailMate and send the 
message. Is there a way to open the reply **directly** in BBEdit (and 
not first in MailMate)?

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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 16 Jan 2016, at 22:12, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 16 Jan 2016, at 19:56, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

P.S. 2. question on using the bbedit-command. I’ve started this 
reply in MailMate, switched over to BBEdit with CTRL-CMD-O, finished 
the message, saved and closed - in order to return to MailMate and 
send the message. Is there a way to open the reply **directly** in 
BBEdit (and not first in MailMate)?


There's an old hidden preference to do this. Read more 
[here](https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg02206.html).


Thanks, Benny!
Do you have the UUID for BBEdit?


Regards,
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[MlMt] How to make rules?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Good morning!


How do you make rules in MailMate?

Example: I've got this email (see attachment) and I want to directly 
delete all similar emails (= same *TO* and same *SUBJECT*).

How do I do this?

Thanks!


Regards,
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[MlMt] How to start MailMate having the focus on an email in the mail list

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


After start MailMate shows (in the *Widescreen*-Layout) the last email, 
but **whitout having the focus on it**.


That means that commands like moveToMailbox, markAsJunk etc. will work 
(on it), but moving through the message-list will work only with 
CMD-arrow up/down and **not** also with simply arrow up/down (as when 
the focus is put on this email).


First question: How can I put the focus (with the keyboard, not using 
the mouse/trackpad) on the email shown?


Second question: If this is the whish-behaviour and not a bug, for which 
purpose is better to **not** have the focus on the email shown?


Thanks!


Regards,
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[MlMt] changing the synchronisation schedule under 5 minutes

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


Is it possible to change the synchronization schedule under the 5 
minutes that are actually the minimum?


I’m testing now MailMate and when opened in parallel with Mail.app, 
Mail.app is showing once in a while a fresh email before MailMate even 
noticing this due to the tighter synchronization schedule in Mail.app (1 
minutes instead of 5).


Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Thanks, Padraic, the copy-trick it was very useful!

Regarding syntax errors while debugging: where can I see them?
Is there a console / log / whatever, where they are listed?

As a (frustrating!!! ;-) example: I’m trying right now **only** this 
keybinding


"t" = ( "goToMailbox:", "TRASH" );

where TRASH is the result of your copy-trick, so the name **is** right.

However pressing *t* only brings a dialog about adding/removing tags!
(that I'm not able to find in the menu-bar! :-()
(and this only while *not* having the focus on an email - *with* focus 
it opens a field above the email, but for what?!… as you see, even 
more questions arise! ;-)


Any ideas?

Thanks!


Regards,
Vlad




On 16 Jan 2016, at 20:15, Padraic Renaghan wrote:

You can copy (⌘C) on the mailbox in MailMate and it will copy that 
mailbox's "id" to the clipboard
You can paste that directly into the key bindings file for any action 
you want done in the context of that mailbox


I have found that debugging key bindings can be tricky. If you have a 
syntax error it may not parse the remainder of the file. Best to start 
with one, comment out everything else, test that one, if it works then 
comment out the next one and test and so on.


P

On 16 Jan 2016, at 13:56, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


Hello again, Fredrik!


On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:54, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:


Vlad Ghitulescu 2016-01-16 19:39 wrote:

Is there a place in MailMate to do this or is something I do in 
system preferences / Keyboard Maestro?


Custom key bindings is one of MailMates killer features in my 
opinion, everything can be done from the keyboard.


Manual here: <http://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings>

I have a blog post where you find the keybinding I use at 
<http://xdeb.org/node/1608>.


I’ve read everything, took shamelessly ;-) your .plist-file, 
commented everything and started to test.


No problems at all with:

"n" = "newMessage:";
"m" = "moveToMailbox:";
"j" = ( "markAsJunk:", "moveToJunk:" );
"J" = ( "markAsNotJunk:" );
"g" = "goToMailbox:";

**but** no success (even no reaction at all) with:

"i" = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX" );

Perhaps because I have 3 accounts in MailMate (already ;-) and 
correspondently 3 different INBOXes?




Fredrik


Vlad


P.S. 2. question on using the bbedit-command. I’ve started this 
reply in MailMate, switched over to BBEdit with CTRL-CMD-O, finished 
the message, saved and closed - in order to return to MailMate and 
send the message. Is there a way to open the reply **directly** in 
BBEdit (and not first in MailMate)?

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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Thanks, Benny!

It only works on reply though, and **not for new emails**.

Bug or it's by design?


Regards,
Vlad





On 17 Jan 2016, at 14:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> On 17 Jan 2016, at 8:18, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:
>
>> Do you have the UUID for BBEdit?
>
> Here you are: `4382C559-76C1-4950-BD10-33A1EBCA9B5D`.
>
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Re: [MlMt] How to make rules?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

It worked, thanks!

Just a thought: Wouldn't be nice to pre-populate the fields of the rule 
with the data from the activated email?



Regards,
Vlad




On 17 Jan 2016, at 14:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Jan 2016, at 8:23, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


How do you make rules in MailMate?

Example: I've got this email (see attachment) and I want to directly 
delete all similar emails (= same *TO* and same *SUBJECT*).

How do I do this?


* Select the Inbox (maybe just the Inbox for the related account).
* Select the “Mailbox ▸ Edit Mailbox” menu item.
* Switch to the “Rules” pane.
* Add a rule with the to/subject conditions.
* Add an action to move to “Deleted Messages”.

Note that the rule is only applied to new messages in the mailbox. If 
you have problems then first try creating a smart mailbox matching the 
same messages -- to make sure that part works.


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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

One more question / bug: saving and closing in BBEdit leaves me in 
BBEdit, even when the MailMate-email - now ready to be sent - is waiting 
for me. Why not re-activate MailMate?



Regards,
Vlad



On 17 Jan 2016, at 14:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Jan 2016, at 8:18, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


Do you have the UUID for BBEdit?


Here you are: `4382C559-76C1-4950-BD10-33A1EBCA9B5D`.

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Re: [MlMt] How to start MailMate having the focus on an email in the mail list

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Thanks, I'll make a key binding (now I know how 8-) for it.


On 17 Jan 2016, at 14:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Jan 2016, at 11:29, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

First question: How can I put the focus (with the keyboard, not using 
the mouse/trackpad) on the email shown?


I'll note to look into the default focus (I think I've promised that 
once before :) ).


A custom key binding can be used to set focus using the keyboard:

( "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" );

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[MlMt] *Last of Thread* not quite the inverse of *Root of Thread*

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I’ve generated *a few* :-) discussion-threads with my questions about 
using MailMate, so I was using extensively the *Last of Thread*- and 
*Root of Thread*-commands in order to navigate up and down through the 
emails.


I observed that *Last of Thread* jumps on the last email in the thread 
**by staying in the email-list**, while *Root of Thread* (that I press 
in order to jump back to the first email in the thread) brings me to the 
original thread-email **but isolate that thread** (and so jumps out of 
the email list). Returning to the list implies clicking on the - button 
on the upper right.


Why the difference?
Or is it another way to return to the first email in a thread whitout 
leaving the email-list-view?


Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

It didn't work for me.


On 18 Jan 2016, at 2:31, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:


Sherman Wilcox 2016-01-18 2:05 wrote:


	"i" = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX", "makeFirstResponder:", 
"mainOutline");



I'm pretty sure I tested having "goToMailbox" and "makeFirstResponder" 
in the same keybinding at some point but it did not work. Thanks for 
showing me that it works now, have added it to all my goto:s!

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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 7:23, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:

> I'm on version 1.9.3 (5187). Whats your version?

1.9.3 (5201)

Here is my key binding - file:

---
{

  "n" = "newMessage:";

  "r" = "reply:";
  "g" = "send:";

  "m" = "moveToMailbox:";

  "f" = ( "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" );

  "J" = ( "moveToJunk:" );

"i" = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline"  
);
"s" = ( "goToMailbox:", "SENT", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" );
"d" = ( "goToMailbox:", "TRASH", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" );
"j" = ( "goToMailbox:", "JUNK", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" );

}
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[MlMt] Coding special keys in the key bindings file

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


How do you code the special keys in the key binding file?

I've found only ^ for CTRL (I hope this is correct ;-)… but how do you 
write CMD, SHIFT and ALT?


Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] Coding special keys in the key bindings file

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 7:37, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:

You have a table with all special keys in the manual 
.


Founded now, thanks!
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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 7:34, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:


Vlad Ghitulescu 2016-01-18 15:25 wrote:


Here is my key binding - file:


Pasted in this in my KeyBindings file and all the keys worked without 
problem for me.


!!!



What do you have in the Custom Key Bindings preference?
MailMate -> Preferences… -> General


Please see attached screenshot.
The path to my key binding file is: /Users/Vlad/Library/Application 
Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/VladsCustom.plist




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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

It works only for the mailbox I was in in the moment I close MailMate.
Example: If I'm in Inbox and I'm closing MailMate, after restarting 
MailMate it only works when I'm in or switching to Inbox, but not in 
Sent, Drafts, Deleted or Junk. Correspondently, if I'm in Sent when I'm 
closing MailMate, after restarting the focus works only in Sent but in 
no other mailbox.



On 18 Jan 2016, at 7:53, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:


Vlad Ghitulescu 2016-01-18 15:49 wrote:


Please see attached screenshot.
The path to my key binding file is: /Users/Vlad/Library/Application 
Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/VladsCustom.plist


Everything thing seems to be in order, I have no idea why it's not 
working for you.


If you make any changes to the KeyBindings you need to restart 
MailMate for it to take effect.


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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 9:12, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Jan 2016, at 21:30, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


It only works on reply though, and **not for new emails**.

Bug or it's by design?


Sounds like a bug. It's supposed to open the editor when you tab into 
the main text field. (Hence the name of the hidden preference: 
`MmBundleCommandLaunchedOnTab`.)


My fault: I was clicking in the text-field! :-( Sorry! It works as it 
should with tab!

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Re: [MlMt] How to make rules?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 9:14, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Jan 2016, at 21:38, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

Just a thought: Wouldn't be nice to pre-populate the fields of the 
rule with the data from the activated email?


Hmm, I guess that makes good sense when creating a rule. I'll give 
that some thought.


Actually it works like this in Mail.app: when an email is active and you 
want to create a rule, everything you choose for this very rule is 
prepopulated with the values of the choosen atributes of the active 
email-message.

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Re: [MlMt] "Junk State = Junk" & "Move to Junk" with one keystroke?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 9:22, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Jan 2016, at 21:40, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

One more question / bug: saving and closing in BBEdit leaves me in 
BBEdit, even when the MailMate-email - now ready to be sent - is 
waiting for me. Why not re-activate MailMate?


At least some of the text editor bundles return focus to MailMate. 
Looking at the code it seems this should also be the case for BBEdit, 
but I don't have/use it myself. I'm afraid someone else would have to 
look into that.


Until then I'll made a Keyboard Maestro-Macro for CMD-s, CMD-w and 
switch back to MailMate (with the same key binding as the key binding 
for „send“ in MailMate, so if I press this twice, the message is 
sent! That’s good! ;-)




I'm too busy answering emails today ;-)


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Re: [MlMt] *Last of Thread* not quite the inverse of *Root of Thread*

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 9:25, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Jan 2016, at 21:53, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

I observed that *Last of Thread* jumps on the last email in the 
thread **by staying in the email-list**, while *Root of Thread* (that 
I press in order to jump back to the first email in the thread) 
brings me to the original thread-email **but isolate that thread** 
(and so jumps out of the email list). Returning to the list implies 
clicking on the - button on the upper right.


Why the difference?


I guess it's a feature. It's a fall back when the root of the thread 
is not in the current mailbox (which the user would probably already 
know).


Or is it another way to return to the first email in a thread whitout 
leaving the email-list-view?


If I understand correctly, you would like the fall back to be to pick 
the oldest message in the thread in the current mailbox?


Yes, correct!
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Re: [MlMt] Any way to reload MmMessagesWebView/stylesheet.css at runtime?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hi, Philip!

On 18 Jan 2016, at 13:18, Philip Paeps wrote:

> I use the 'solarized' colour scheme everywhere I
> spend a lot of time.

Me too, wherever I can (BBEdit, iTerm).
How can I change the appearance of MailMate?

Thanks!


Regards,
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[MlMt] Spotlight?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


What does exactly mean this 3 settings:

1. Indexed for Finder/Spotlight
2. Custom location
3. Hide folder in Finder

?

Especially:

* to 1.: are the messages in MailMate not (Spotlight)-searchable if I 
don't mark this?

* to 2.: why should I want a custom location?
* to 3.: why would I hide the folder in Finder?

Thanks!


Regards,
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[MlMt] how to see the HTML-version of an email in MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I'm using 99% plain-text-email but once in a while I would like to be 
able to see the HTML-version.


As an example I send you two links to two screenshots, one to an email 
in MailMate 
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/rarwhr3g1pfckjp/Bildschirmfoto%202016-01-18%20um%2014.32.15.png?dl=0) 
and the same email in Mail.app 
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/hnjg07brv5ixz62/GMail%20via%20Mail.png?dl=0).


How can I switch in MailMate from only-text to HTML?

Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] changing the synchronisation schedule under 5 minutes

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

No, is grayed out.
Oh, perhaps because I'm in trial mode?! I have only 4-5 days of using 
MailMate under my belt… ;-)


On 18 Jan 2016, at 14:56, Mike Brasch wrote:


On 17 Jan 2016, at 11:39, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

Is it possible to change the synchronization schedule under the 5 
minutes that are actually the minimum?


Is the connected state not an option for you?

--
Gruß
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Re: [MlMt] changing the synchronisation schedule under 5 minutes

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 15:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 18 Jan 2016, at 15:00, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


On 18 Jan 2016, at 14:56, Mike Brasch wrote:



Is the connected state not an option for you?


No, is grayed out.


Usually, you only need the INBOX of an account in the IDLE mode. 
MailMate has a limit of 3 connections to the IMAP server. This is 
mainly because many servers put a limit on the number of open 
connections and with multiple devices that limit can easily be 
reached.



Then why is it grayed out?


Oh, perhaps because I'm in trial mode?! I have only 4-5 days of using 
MailMate under my belt… ;-)


No, trial mode is fully functional, but it appears you are an 
experienced user now:


:-D



You have reached 78 feedback emails in those days.


I hope I don't get you on your nerves! :-/



It'll be a busy trial month ;-)


You bet! ;-)


I don't have more time today, but I've uploaded a new test release: 
Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update 
preferences pane (r5203). It includes the requested auto-filled text 
fields in smart folder and rule conditions. I haven't tested it much 
so don't be surprised if it's buggy.



I'll check this!


The new test release also auto-watches changes to key binding files 
(finally).


That's cool too, I'm experimenting since yesterday continously (= my 
binding file is open in BBEdit all the time, as well as the manual page 
in Safari ;-)




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Re: [MlMt] changing the synchronisation schedule under 5 minutes

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 15:20, Mike Brasch wrote:


On 18 Jan 2016, at 15:00, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


No, is grayed out.
Oh, perhaps because I'm in trial mode?! I have only 4-5 days of using 
MailMate under my belt… ;-)


If I remember correctly MailMate allows three IDLE connections per 
account. Could this be the case for you?


Sorry, but I really don't know. *IDLE connection* = synch. schedule 
CONNECTED in MailMate?
Right now I have 3 different IMAP accounts configured in MailMate and 
none of them have *connected* as choosable alternative in the 
synchronization schedule.



Somewhere is an option to allow more connections. If I remember I'll 
tell you.


I don't know how MailMate behaves, if the provider don't allow you to 
use more IDLE connections.


One of the accounts is a GMail-account, so it should behave GMail-like.


I'm not shure, but this (provider) limit applies for the account over 
all connected clients.


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Gruß
Mike


;-)

Gruß,
Vlad


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Re: [MlMt] changing the synchronisation schedule under 5 minutes

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

**Sorry!**

You're right, the account itself stays on *5 minutes*, but the INBOX of 
each of the accounts is on *connected*.


Sorry again!



On 18 Jan 2016, at 16:21, Thomas Eckhold wrote:


On 18 Jan 2016, at 16:14, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

Sorry, but I really don't know. *IDLE connection* = synch. schedule 
CONNECTED in MailMate?
Right now I have 3 different IMAP accounts configured in MailMate and 
none of them have *connected* as choosable alternative in the 
synchronization schedule.


Have you checked the right mailbox? It is not the source, it is the 
INBOX itself which needs to be configured.


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Re: [MlMt] changing the synchronisation schedule under 5 minutes

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 15:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

I don't have more time today, but I've uploaded a new test release: 
Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update 
preferences pane (r5203). It includes the requested auto-filled text 
fields in smart folder and rule conditions. I haven't tested it much 
so don't be surprised if it's buggy.


The new test release also auto-watches changes to key binding files 
(finally).


Both works well here…

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Re: [MlMt] How to make rules?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 9:14, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Jan 2016, at 21:38, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

Just a thought: Wouldn't be nice to pre-populate the fields of the 
rule with the data from the activated email?


Hmm, I guess that makes good sense when creating a rule. I'll give 
that some thought.




It looks like you've already implemented this and it works.
If I could dare a second suggestion: It would be even easier if there'll 
be a context menu like *Add rule from this email!* or something similar.

What do you think?
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[MlMt] How to move the focus in the message-list to the message on the top / bottom / (even middle of the screen)?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


Is there a way to move the focus in the messages-list on the email on 
the top / bottom or even in the middle of the screen (just like *T/B/M* 
in Vim)?


I've found selectFirstMessageRow: and selectLastMessageRow: but they are 
positioning the focus on the very first/last email of the list (just 
like CMD-up/down-arrow in a *normal* text-editor or *gg/G* in Vim) but 
not of the messages showed in the window?


Are there other selectors I should use?

Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] possible to show icon/photo for the sender (or any contact for that matter) ?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


On 18 Jan 2016, at 9:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 18 Jan 2016, at 9:09, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


is $subject possible ?


Not easily.

I'm horribly bad with names but great with faces so would be awesome 
if mailmate
could show the sender contact photo in the header and if possible 
when hovering

a contact name.

Is any of this possible ? any hidden preference ?


The closest would be to inject something in the HTML generation. This 
might be easier when I've finished my (major) changes to message 
display/generation, but it would still require some kind of script 
which can retrieve/manage user images (I guess it should mainly be 
able to retrieve an image from Contacts). That's probably the hard 
part :-)




Look what I've found yesterday in John Voorhees' article *MailButler 
Adds New Tools to Apple Mail* at MacStories 
(https://www.macstories.net/reviews/mailbutler-adds-new-tools-to-apple-mail/)


*(…)
**Sender Avatars and Signatures**

The most noticeable change that MailButler makes to Mail when you first 
open it is the addition of avatars for most senders. MailButler pulls 
images from Contacts, Facebook, Flicker, Gravatar, Google+, and the web 
to create the avatars. Each avatar includes a small icon indicating its 
source. Most of the avatars in my inbox were pulled from the web and 
many looked a little rough because they were not Retina graphics, but on 
balance the feature worked well to help me identify senders at a glance.

(…)*

Would this be a solution / idea?


Regards,
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[MlMt] Trigger words for attachment reminder

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


One of MailMate's very useful features for me is the nice reminder of 
forgotten attachments.


Writing emails also in other languages than English I wondered if 
there's an editable list of *trigger words* for this very useful 
feature.


And I'm not alone with this! ;-)

I found a similar approach in the previous cited article from MacStories 
(*MailButler Adds New Tools to Apple Mail* - 
https://www.macstories.net/reviews/mailbutler-adds-new-tools-to-apple-mail/):


*
(…)
Attachment Reminders

It's probably a safe bet that you have sent an email at some point and 
forgotten to include an attachment. MailButler tries to anticipate your 
intent to send a file based on keywords in your message. If it thinks 
you forgot an attachment, MailButler pops up a reminder before sending 
your message. In my tests, MailButler correctly identified 'attach' and 
'attachment,' as keywords, but failed to prompt me for an attachment 
when I typed "Here is the file we discussed." **Fortunately, you can add 
your own keywords to MailButler's repertoire.**

(…)
*


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] Trigger words for attachment reminder

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 23 Jan 2016, at 12:58, Thomas Grundberg wrote:


2016-01-23 kl 12:34 skrev Vlad Ghitulescu:

Writing emails also in other languages than English I wondered if 
there's an editable list of *trigger words* for this very useful 
feature.


Have you tried “Attachment Check” in Preferences → Composer?


NO!!!

I've seen it at the beginning (wow! 11 day before… it seems like ages! 
;-), I didn't understand what that mean and forgot this immediately!


Thanks, Thomas!

Its content is right now:

(?i:attached|attaching|attachment|enclosed|enclosing|enclosure)

If I understand it right, everything I want to be proofed before sending 
has to be inserted in the parathesis, with the words separated by |, 
right?



Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] Trigger words for attachment reminder

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 23 Jan 2016, at 14:03, Thomas Grundberg wrote:


2016-01-23 kl 13:40 skrev Vlad Ghitulescu:

If I understand it right, everything I want to be proofed before 
sending has to be inserted in the parathesis, with the words 
separated by |, right?


Right! That’s the way I’ve got it set up so that it catches the 
Swedish word for attachment: *bilaga*.


I've got it now! Thanks again!
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[MlMt] How to set MailMate (once!) to be the default app for email

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I’ve changed the default app for email to be MailMate in MailMate 
itself and in Apple’s Mail.app.


I’ve also changed in the Finder the default app for opening 
.eml-files.


However… every single time I’m sharing a link from Safari etc., 
Apple’s Mail.app appears (and in it’s setting the Mail.app it’s 
again the default email-app!).


Is there a way to end this vicious circle?

Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] How to set MailMate (once!) to be the default app for email

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hey!


On 25 Jan 2016, at 22:02, Mailmate wrote:


I found this solution

https://nickjvturner.wordpress.com/2015/11/05/osx-10-11-1-el-capitan-change-the-default-mail-client/

It looks reasonable but I don't have the issue so I have not tried it.


It didn't work! :-(
Thanks nevertheless ;-)


Regards,
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[MlMt] Workaround for sending a link from Safari via MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


After discovering that the default mail client vicious circle is 
actually only an El Capitan - bug (see the thread *How to set MailMate 
(once!) to be the default app for email* - 
http://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2016-January/005526.html) I made a 
Keyboard Maestro - macro as a sort of workaround in order to be able to 
send the link of the current Safari-window / tab via MailMate.


I attach the macro - perhaps some of you could use it.

I'm using BBEdit as my text- and MailMate-editor, that's why I had to 
consider this as well.


I triggered the KBM-macro via the same keyboard-shortcut as the default 
Safari-keyboard-shortcut (muscle memory!).



Regards,
Vlad



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Re: [MlMt] Workaround for sending a link from Safari via MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello, Benny!

On 27 Jan 2016, at 9:20, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Did you try the command I 
describe [here](https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg05044.html). 


I did and have a question.

Here is the output from Terminal:

---
Vlads-iMac:bin Vlad$ ls -al
total 144
drwxr-xr-x@  6 Vlad  staff204 27 Jan 19:48 .
drwxr-xr-x+ 24 Vlad  staff816 20 Jan 16:29 ..
-rwxr--r--   1 Vlad  staff 47  2 Nov  2014 bbstdin
-rw-r--r--@  1 Vlad  staff  46936 27 Jan 19:48 defaultmailer
-rwxr--r--   1 Vlad  staff993  2 Nov  2014 getreflink
-rwxr--r--   1 Vlad  staff205  2 Nov  2014 nextreflink
Vlads-iMac:bin Vlad$ chmod u+x defaultmailer
Vlads-iMac:bin Vlad$ ls -al
total 144
drwxr-xr-x@  6 Vlad  staff204 27 Jan 19:48 .
drwxr-xr-x+ 24 Vlad  staff816 20 Jan 16:29 ..
-rwxr--r--   1 Vlad  staff 47  2 Nov  2014 bbstdin
-rwxr--r--@  1 Vlad  staff  46936 27 Jan 19:48 defaultmailer
-rwxr--r--   1 Vlad  staff993  2 Nov  2014 getreflink
-rwxr--r--   1 Vlad  staff205  2 Nov  2014 nextreflink
Vlads-iMac:bin Vlad$ ./defaultmailer
Current: mail

Use -set  to set a new default mailto: handler
Vlads-iMac:bin Vlad$
---

You wrote in the cited message:

*(…)

5. Assuming it's MailMate then do this:

./defaultmailer -set mail

(…)*

but in my case it wasn't MailMate, but mail.

What should I enter after -set in order to set MailMate as my mailer?

Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] Syncing and copy settings between Macs?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!

On 27 Jan 2016, at 9:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 27 Jan 2016, at 9:30, Jan Erik Moström wrote:

I have three Macs that I use, which currently have different mail 
accounts.
However I want to change this a bit and I wonder if there is a way to 
sync the settings between Macs.


What I would like to sync is basically smart mailboxes, key settings 
and other settings in the preferences.


There is (still) no way to do this. The best you can is to 
“migrate” settings by copying `.plist` files from/to this folder:


~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/

Note that you must quit MailMate on both machines before doing this. 
Only copy `Sources.plist`, `Submission.plist`, and `Identities.plist` 
if you are starting over on the destination machine.


Other preferences are stored in this file (like all other OS X 
applications):


~/Library/Preferences/com.freron.MailMate.plist

You should only copy that file if you are making a clean install.



Would it be possible to move the content of the folder 
~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/ in - let's say - 
~/Dropbox/Application Support/MailMate/ and then made a (symbolic) link 
from ~/Dropbox/Application Support/MailMate/ to ~/Library/Application 
Support?


Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] Workaround for sending a link from Safari via MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 27 Jan 2016, at 20:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


 ./defaultmailer -set mailmate



Thanks!

Take a look:

---
Vlads-iMac:bin Vlad$ ./defaultmailer -set mailmate
Vlads-iMac:bin Vlad$ ./defaultmailer
Current: mailmate

Use -set  to set a new default mailto: handler
---

After this I have disabled my fresh KBM-macro, switched to Safari and 
pressed CMD-SHIFT-I in order to send the link of the site to the default 
mailer… and Apple's Mail.app started :-(


After this the ./defaultmailer-command showed:

---
Vlads-iMac:bin Vlad$ ./defaultmailer
Current: mail

Use -set  to set a new default mailto: handler
---

Any idea?

Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] Syncing and copy settings between Macs?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hey, Benny!


On 27 Jan 2016, at 20:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 27 Jan 2016, at 20:28, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

Would it be possible to move the content of the folder 
~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/ in - let's say - 
~/Dropbox/Application Support/MailMate/ and then made a (symbolic) 
link from ~/Dropbox/Application Support/MailMate/ to 
~/Library/Application Support?


I have not tested if that works, but it definitely does ***not*** work 
to have two installs of MailMate running with access to the same 
support folder. Only one of them can be active at any time.




Does that mean that it would be possible to have *two installs of 
MailMate running with access to the same support folder* if this two 
installs doesn't access the Application Support-folder simultaneously?


Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] Syncing and copy settings between Macs?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 27 Jan 2016, at 21:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 27 Jan 2016, at 21:04, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

Does that mean that it would be possible to have *two installs of 
MailMate running with access to the same support folder* if this two 
installs doesn't access the Application Support-folder 
simultaneously?


Maybe. I haven't tested it and I don't officially support it. Even if 
it works now it might not work in the future.


Also, it would be very slow and inefficient to synchronize the 
database files via a cloud service.




Ok, I understand.
Then the current *official* answer is: There's no efficient and secure 
way to access **one** database with more MailMate-clients, 
simultaneously or not. One should let the local installed 
MailMate-clients access the IMAP-server and not a central / cloud-based 
copy of the Application Support - folder.

Did I understand this correct?
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Re: [MlMt] Workaround for sending a link from Safari via MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 27 Jan 2016, at 21:33, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 27 Jan 2016, at 20:56, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


./defaultmailer -set mailmate


Any idea?


Just try repeating the above:

./defaultmailer -set mailmate

./defaultmailer

If it returns to `mail` then try again repeatedly. When I experimented 
it usually worked after a few rounds. Probably some kind of race 
condition.


I changed the defaultmailer to mailmate yesterday and went to bed. The 
first thing in the morning was to check what the defaultmailer is and… 
it was mail again! :-(

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Re: [MlMt] Workaround for sending a link from Safari via MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 28 Jan 2016, at 9:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 28 Jan 2016, at 7:18, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


I changed the defaultmailer to mailmate yesterday and went to bed. 
The first thing in the morning was to check what the defaultmailer is 
and… it was mail again! :-(



In my experience it only takes a few seconds to revert -- and then 
some times it suddenly sticks.


I'm still trying… it reverts after a while to mail, even when nothing 
happens in between.

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[MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I'm using the BBEdit-command in order to edit my email-messages in 
BBEdit.


Is there a way to position the cursor at the bottom of the email when 
replying / forwarding an email?


Thanks!


Regards,
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[MlMt] starting with an active row - bug or feature?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


As I mentioned in the previous thread, I'm using the BBEdit-command in 
MailMate.


One thing that's a bit annoying is that after the tab BBEdit starts with 
the cursor in the first row **and the whole row active** (as after CMD-L 
in BBEdit respectively CMD-left arrow & CMD-SHIFT-right arrow in every 
other OS X text editor).


Why?
and
Is there a way to change this behavior to a simple cursor (in insert 
mode)?


Thanks!


Regards,
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[MlMt] number of flagged from "all messages" in the menubar

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I would like to see

1. the number of unread messages from INBOX
2. the number of the flagged messages from *all messages* and

in the red & green dots from the menu-bar.

Right now I get with the default settings

a) the number of unread messages from INBOX (hurray!) (red dot) and
b) the number of the flagged messages **from INBOX** (green dot)(see 
attachments).


Unfortunately I can only change the first (red dot) through the 
settings.


Any idea?

Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] number of flagged from "all messages" in the menubar

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hi, Lars!


Thanks for the quick reply!

On 28 Jan 2016, at 21:34, Lars Ippich wrote:


On 28 Jan 2016, at 21:32, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


Right now I get with the default settings

a) the number of unread messages from INBOX (hurray!) (red dot) and
b) the number of the flagged messages **from INBOX** (green dot)(see 
attachments).


Unfortunately I can only change the first (red dot) through the 
settings.


"Note: The current interface in the preferences pane can be 
misleading. The 4 radio buttons to the left are not used to configure 
the position of a single counter. They are used to configure 4 
separate counters."


Simply select the counter you want to configure by using the 4 radio 
buttons on the left side :-)


I think I understood this.
What I was asking for was not the dots on the icon of MailMate in the 
Dock, but the dots in the menu-bar (see attachment).



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Re: [MlMt] number of flagged from "all messages" in the menubar

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hi, David!


On 28 Jan 2016, at 21:54, David Shepherdson wrote:


On 29 Jan 2016, at 07.32, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

Unfortunately I can only change the first (red dot) through the 
settings.


Any idea?


It’s a bit unusual, but you have to click the various radio buttons 
at the left of the Counters preference pane to select which of the up 
to four possible counters you want to edit. In other words, those 
radio buttons are not saying where you want the counter to be (as some 
might expect), but they’re saying which counter is ‘selected’ 
for editing.


David


Now I've got it! Thanks!
(and sorry, Lars, you were right too!)


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[MlMt] different font-type for From/To/Subject in the message-list?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I'm using more and more the *All messages* in the view showed in the 
attached screenshot (OT: trimming the attachment to fit the 40KB limit 
is a pain once in a while! ;-), due to the fact that I'm navigating more 
and more with my new shiny keyboard shortcuts ;-)


Even with this wide screen I would like to see more from the subject of 
the messages.


Is there any way to choose a different type / type-size for different 
parts of the message-list, like a smaller type for the subject etc.?


Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 28 Jan 2016, at 22:13, David Shepherdson wrote:


On 29 Jan 2016, at 07.05, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

I'm using the BBEdit-command in order to edit my email-messages in 
BBEdit.


Is there a way to position the cursor at the bottom of the email when 
replying / forwarding an email?


Isn’t this controlled by the Caret Placement option in the 
Signatures section of MailMate’s preferences? I have it set to Above 
Signature (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to Bottom), 
and the cursor appears exactly where I would expect (when editing in 
MailMate, but as per the other thread I would expect it to be the same 
in an external editor).


That was it! Thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] Workaround for sending a link from Safari via MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


On 28 Jan 2016, at 21:02, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


On 28 Jan 2016, at 9:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 28 Jan 2016, at 7:18, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


I changed the defaultmailer to mailmate yesterday and went to bed. 
The first thing in the morning was to check what the defaultmailer 
is and… it was mail again! :-(



In my experience it only takes a few seconds to revert -- and then 
some times it suddenly sticks.


I'm still trying… it reverts after a while to mail, even when 
nothing happens in between.


After a couple of time setting the default-mail-client to MailMate via 
Terminal I've got the attached message from MailMate.


After clicking on OK (what else?! ;-) **the mail-client didn't change 
back anymore to mail!**


It looks like we have a solution! ;-)


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] different font-type for From/To/Subject in the message-list?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 29 Jan 2016, at 11:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 29 Jan 2016, at 6:13, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

Is there any way to choose a different type / type-size for different 
parts of the message-list, like a smaller type for the subject etc.?


No, there's no way to do that. I'm assuming what you primarily want is 
a more horizontally compact message list as seen in many other email 
clients.


Something like that, yes. I would like to squeeze more of the 
subject-line in the message-list by letting the other fields (From, To, 
Date etc.) unchanged.



I don't oppose such a feature and it's on my list, but I cannot 
provide a time frame. It's a major feature.


It's good to know that's on your list.


Your only option is to decrease the font size of the entire message 
list.


Yes, I already done this.

Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] Workaround for sending a link from Safari via MailMate

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 29 Jan 2016, at 11:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> Let's hope you don't need to switch back ;-)

I think we both know this by now, don't we?! ;-)
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Re: [MlMt] starting with an active row - bug or feature?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 28 Jan 2016, at 22:10, David Shepherdson wrote:


On 29 Jan 2016, at 07.10, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

As I mentioned in the previous thread, I'm using the BBEdit-command 
in MailMate.


One thing that's a bit annoying is that after the tab BBEdit starts 
with the cursor in the first row **and the whole row active** (as 
after CMD-L in BBEdit respectively CMD-left arrow & CMD-SHIFT-right 
arrow in every other OS X text editor).


I’m also using the BBEdit command (but not automatically — I use a 
keyboard shortcut when I want to edit a particular message using 
BBEdit), and I also see this behaviour. I think it is a feature, so 
that you are taken to the same line in BBEdit as the cursor was on in 
MailMate; it’s just that BBEdit selects the line, rather than simply 
moving to it.


One way to stop this would be to edit the file:

~/Library/Application 
Support/MailMate/Managed/Bundles/BBEdit.mmbundle/Support/bin/edit


…and remove the ‘+${MM_LINE_NUMBER}’ part.


That was it (again! ;-)
Thanks!


Otherwise, it’s probably a feature request to Bare Bones Software 
for a way to go to a line from the bbedit tool without selecting it 
(like the built-in Go To Line command does).


I'll do this too, why not?!



David


Thanks again!
Vlad
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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 28 Jan 2016, at 22:13, David Shepherdson wrote:


On 29 Jan 2016, at 07.05, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

I'm using the BBEdit-command in order to edit my email-messages in 
BBEdit.


Is there a way to position the cursor at the bottom of the email when 
replying / forwarding an email?


Isn’t this controlled by the Caret Placement option in the 
Signatures section of MailMate’s preferences? I have it set to Above 
Signature (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to Bottom), 
and the cursor appears exactly where I would expect (when editing in 
MailMate, but as per the other thread I would expect it to be the same 
in an external editor).


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Something changed and I don't know what.

I still have the Caret Placement option in the Signatures > section of 
MailMate’s preferences as you suggested (*(…) set to Above Signature 
> (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to Bottom) (…)*), 
but now **every reply put my cursor at the top again** :-(


Any idea, what could have happened?

Thanks!


Regards,
Vlad


P.S. At leas this happens now whitout activating the whole line, so it 
seems that the change in edit.sh still works. I append the old and the 
new edit.sh-file, just for reference.


=== old
#!/bin/bash

PATH="${PATH}:/usr/local/bin/:${HOME}/bin"

if which -s bbedit; then
	bbedit --wait --resume --clean +${MM_LINE_NUMBER} --pipe-title 
"${MM_TITLE:-(no subject)}" "${MM_EDIT_FILEPATH}"

else
	osascript -e 'tell app "MailMate" to display dialog "Make sure you have 
the “bbedit” command installed. See the “BBEdit ▸ Install 
Command Line Tools” menu item within BBEdit." buttons "OK" default 
button 1 with title "Unable to locate BBEdit"' >/dev/null 2>&1 &

fi
===


=== new
#!/bin/bash

PATH="${PATH}:/usr/local/bin/:${HOME}/bin"

if which -s bbedit; then
	bbedit --wait --resume --clean --pipe-title "${MM_TITLE:-(no subject)}" 
"${MM_EDIT_FILEPATH}"

else
	osascript -e 'tell app "MailMate" to display dialog "Make sure you have 
the “bbedit” command installed. See the “BBEdit ▸ Install 
Command Line Tools” menu item within BBEdit." buttons "OK" default 
button 1 with title "Unable to locate BBEdit"' >/dev/null 2>&1 &

fi
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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 31 Jan 2016, at 9:22, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 31 Jan 2016, at 8:25, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

I still have the Caret Placement option in the Signatures > section 
of MailMate’s preferences as you suggested (*(…) set to Above 
Signature  > (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to 
Bottom) (…)*), but now **every reply put my cursor at the top 
again** :-(


Any idea, what could have happened?


Try clicking “Reset Usage History” in the Signatures preferences 
pane. This should ensure a clean start.


I did. It didn't help, the caret was to the top again.


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 1 Feb 2016, at 9:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 31 Jan 2016, at 22:17, David Shepherdson wrote:

This is because of the change to The BBEdit command’s edit.sh. 
Taking out the:


+${MM_LINE_NUMBER}

…means that BBEdit is no longer being told which line to 
‘activate’ (i.e. select).


If only line numbers are supported via the command line then maybe 
AppleScript could be used instead. A quick Google search revealed that 
maybe `"select insertion point ..."` could be used somehow. Just a 
suggestion for anyone capable of making that work :-) (I don't have 
BBEdit installed myself.)


Thanks, I'll search for a solution!


Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hi, David!


On 31 Jan 2016, at 22:17, David Shepherdson wrote:

So you can’t use these two tricks in combination, unfortunately (at 
least, not unless/until Bare Bones adds the ability to specify the 
line number in the command without selecting it). You basically get a 
choice between MailMate telling BBEdit the correct line number, and 
BBEdit selecting it, or MailMate not telling BBEdit anything about the 
line number, so BBEdit puts the insertion point at the beginning of 
the file. I’m not bothered by the former, but then I only 
occasionally edit my messages in BBEdit, not all the time, so it’s 
rarely a problem for me.


Thanks for the explanation!

1. I'll speak with Bare Bones once again about it.
2. You're right: If it's unsolvable I can for sure get used to, that's 
no big deal…
3. … I even start to like the current behavior ;-), because I can say 
hello in the top of the email and then jump to the bottom for the reply. 
:-)


Thanks again!


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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hi!


On 1 Feb 2016, at 17:53, Muster Hans wrote:


New with BBEdit 11.5, which has just arrived today:

http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/current_notes.html


When piping data into the bbedit tool, you can now add a line number 
specifier, and the and the insertion point will be placed at the start 
of the indicated line in the resulting document. For example:


ls -la | bbedit +5


I've just tested this and it puts the cursor at the beginning of line 
5, without selecting it.


Yep, I saw this too, **BUT** I cannot find an alternative to put the 
cursor at the bottom of the file.



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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 1 Feb 2016, at 19:17, Muster Hans wrote:

> bbedit +

I'll use this too.

Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 1 Feb 2016, at 19:17, Muster Hans wrote:


On 1 Feb 2016, at 19:05, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


Hi!


On 1 Feb 2016, at 17:53, Muster Hans wrote:


New with BBEdit 11.5, which has just arrived today:

http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/current_notes.html


When piping data into the bbedit tool, you can now add a line number 
specifier, and the and the insertion point will be placed at the 
start of the indicated line in the resulting document. For example:


ls -la | bbedit +5


I've just tested this and it puts the cursor at the beginning of 
line 5, without selecting it.


Yep, I saw this too, **BUT** I cannot find an alternative to put the 
cursor at the bottom of the file.




Hmm.

ls -la | wc -l
 404
ls -la | bbedit +

puts the cursor on the last line of the file, a blank line in this 
example.


Let's try a file which ends in a full line, but without  at the 
end:


bbedit +999 x.py # puts the cursor at the end of the last line.

FWIW, I've been using TextWrangler in a similar way for newsgroup 
posts,
called by slrn.  What I find there is that I want the cursor 
positioned
at the beginning of the post body, so that I can start at the 
beginning
and strip out unwanted quoted text, just leaving the relevant quoted 
text
plus my reply (possibly interleaved where answering more than one 
point).


Yes TW does select the entire line, but that's not a problem when I'm
using the cursor keys to move down through the text before typing any
text.


There's even a simpler solution!
Here directly from Bare Bones' technical support:

*(…)
When you pipe data via the 'bbedit' tool, BBEdit will by default place 
the insertion point at the end of the piped data.
Alternatively, you can make BBEdit place the insertion point at the top 
of file by including the '--view-top' parameter, or on any specific line 
by using the + convention I mentioned before.

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Re: [MlMt] What takes time at startup?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!

On 6 Feb 2016, at 21:49, Patrik Fältström wrote:


350k email messages is nothing.

I have just below 2 million. 12k added each month, approximately.


I am new to MailMate, so please bare with me and my slightly OT 
question: why keeping so many email messages in MailMate (or any other 
email app at all)?


I still have all my email messages since 2002 but keep only a relevant 
(and therefore *very small* and *constantly fresh*) subset in my email 
app of choice (currently MailMate) and all the rest in archives 
(external to the email app and servers and searchable via Finder and/or 
an email archive app).
Not using my email app as a task manager (and delegating this to a 
dedicated task manager app) makes this easy too.


I'm not pretending that my method is better and I also understand that 
MailMate can graciously manage a huge amount of email - but why keeping 
all this information there and not somewhere else, once it not implying 
constantly replying / forwarding / etc.?


Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] What takes time at startup?

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On 8 Feb 2016, at 10:56, Comic Sans wrote:

Just interested, with mail base so large, have you ever 
considered/evaluated something 
like [MailSteward](http://www.mailsteward.com/) or similar?


This is what I used till MailMate. Searching (and finding :-) was easy 
and confortable.


Now I'm using a Finder-folder with elm-files (dragged directly from 
MailMate) as archive (is equally small as the MailSteward-archives and 
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Re: [MlMt] What takes time at startup?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hi, Philip!


Thanks for the reply!


On 8 Feb 2016, at 10:49, Philip Paeps wrote:

On 2016-02-08 05:50:12 (+0100), Vlad Ghitulescu  
wrote:

On 6 Feb 2016, at 21:49, Patrik Fältström wrote:

350k email messages is nothing.

I have just below 2 million. 12k added each month, approximately.


I am new to MailMate, so please bare with me and my slightly OT 
question: why keeping so many email messages in MailMate (or any 
other email app at all)?


I can't speak for anyone else, only for myself.


That's also what I want to hear: I wanted to learn from people who think 
different than myself regarding email. It must be a reson! ;-)



I still have all my email messages since 2002 but keep only a 
relevant (and therefore *very small* and *constantly fresh*) subset 
in my email app of choice (currently MailMate) and all the rest in 
archives (external to the email app and servers and searchable via 
Finder and/or an email archive app).


My archives go back to the mid-nineties.  Since mail (generally) 
compresses well and (server) disk space kept getting cheaper, I 
decided a very long time ago that it's cheaper to keep everything than 
to regularly evaluate what's relevant.


How often do you use / read those mid-nineties email messages now?
I still have the email messages from 2002, but live doesn't stop :-) so 
I didn't take a glance of them since ages!



Not using my email app as a task manager (and delegating this to a 
dedicated task manager app) makes this easy too.


I also use a dedicated task manager now (OmniFocus).


Me too.


I'm not pretending that my method is better and I also understand 
that MailMate can graciously manage a huge amount of email - but why 
keeping all this information there and not somewhere else, once it 
not implying constantly replying / forwarding / etc.?


The problem with "somewhere else" is getting to it.


This is something that I also treasure and the email-archives are always 
there where I intensively do email (not on the iPhone - but that's ok 
for me, I can wait till I get home).


Even more: the archives are there even whitout an internet connection.



Simple connectivity is one thing, but also finding what I need.


See my previous message: MailSteward or HoudahSpot make that realy easy.


These days, it's usually pretty easy to find an internet connection 
but MailMate's search features are a lot better than `find Maildir 
-type f -mtime foo -exec grep -i mumble {} +`.


Oh, that sound fun too :-)



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Re: [MlMt] What takes time at startup?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 8 Feb 2016, at 11:02, Patrik Fältström wrote:

> Yes, but nothing beats standardized access to the email as IMAP.

The Finder-folder with a bunch of elm-messages it's also standardized enough.
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Re: [MlMt] What takes time at startup?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hey, Philip!


On 8 Feb 2016, at 13:56, Philip Paeps wrote:

On 2016-02-08 11:14:09 (+0100), Vlad Ghitulescu  
wrote:

On 8 Feb 2016, at 10:49, Philip Paeps wrote:
My archives go back to the mid-nineties.  Since mail (generally) 
compresses well and (server) disk space kept getting cheaper, I 
decided a very long time ago that it's cheaper to keep everything 
than to regularly evaluate what's relevant.


How often do you use / read those mid-nineties email messages now?


Surprisingly often!


I'm then a lot luckier: My archives grows bigger every year, but I 
rarely (**very** rarely) search something older than three years.




Well, maybe not those from the nineties.


This is the chance to let them go! ;-)

(…)



Simple connectivity is one thing, but also finding what I need.


See my previous message: MailSteward or HoudahSpot make that realy 
easy.


I hadn't heard of these until now.


MailSteward (http://www.mailsteward.com) worked just fine with Mail.app 
for me - unfortunately not with MailMate, so I had to search for an 
alternative. It makes a MySQL-database from the email messages and let 
you search via an interface but also via *raw* sql-query if this strikes 
your fancy. It can schedule archiving, support OS X tags etc.


HoudahSpot (https://www.houdah.com/houdahSpot/) uses Spotlight's 
indexing for search, but it's a lot more powerful and convenient than 
using Spotlight. I'm using this to search the archived email messages 
from MailMate (they are eml-files in a Finder-folder). That's as quick 
as MailSteward but let my email messages free from any proprietary 
format (even if the eml-files - and their attributes - are generated by 
MailMate while dragging them from MailMate into the Finder-folder). And 
I'm using HoudahSpot already for searching & finding anything on my 
iMac, so there is no supplementary effort involved :-)



I'm not terribly enthusiastic about spreading my email access across 
different systems though.


That's a valid point!
But I think that Spotlight (w/o the confort of HoudahSpot) is secure 
enough, don't you think?



Standardised IMAP "just works".  Even if it means dragging a lot of 
history around and stretching client data structures and indices to 
their limits. :)


:-D
I can see the challenge, yes! Scaling is hard!

Thanks again for your thoughts!



Philip

--
Philip Paeps
Senior Reality Engineer
Ministry of Information


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[MlMt] How to customize "On ... at ... f...@foo.com wrote:"

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


Is there a way to customize the standard beginning quote of replies / 
fwd-ed mail-messages?



On 17 Feb 2016, at  9:32, [f...@foo.com](mailto:f...@foo.com) wrote:


Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] How to customize "On ... at ... f...@foo.com wrote:"

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hi, Philip!


On 18 Feb 2016, at 12:05, Philip Paeps wrote:

On 2016-02-18 11:15:25 (+0100), Vlad Ghitulescu  
wrote:
Is there a way to customize the standard beginning quote of replies / 
fwd-ed mail-messages?



On 17 Feb 2016, at  9:32, [f...@foo.com](mailto:f...@foo.com) wrote:


I asked that question when I started using MailMate. :-)


It still hits home… ;-)


It's documented in the [hidden 
preferences](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences#composing) 
section of the manual.  I use this:


On %F %T (%z), ${from.name:?${from.name} 
<${from.address}>:${from.address}} wrote:




Thanks!



Philip



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[MlMt] Flagged-Mailbox shows unflagged message

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I have 10 flagged messages right now.

They appear all in the example mailbox "*Flagged*" and the counter of 
the flagged messages shows 10 - everything is ok!


After unflagging one of the 10 messages the counter of the flagged 
messages is updated immediately and shows 9 but the now un-flagged 
message still appears in the "*Flagged*"-mailbox.


It's only after changing the view / showing another mailbox that this 
un-flagged message don't appear anymore in the list of the flagged 
messages.


Why doesn't the "*Flagged*"-mailbox update it's view immediately?

Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] Any news?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 26 Feb 2016, at 11:38, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

Let me suggest to keep the „Design Crowd Funding Campaign“ alive. 
I believe that a lot of users (especially new users) do not even know 
about this campaign.


I was just going to ask: What is the „*Design Crowd Funding 
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Re: [MlMt] Flagged-Mailbox shows unflagged message

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 29 Feb 2016, at 8:48, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

It has also been suggested to make it possible to have a shortcut to 
refresh a mailbox (as if re-selecting the mailbox).


That would indeed also solve this problem!
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[MlMt] Workaround for moving the focus in the message-list to the message on the top / bottom / (even middle of the screen)

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


Since I didn't get any suggestions on my original question ([How to move 
the focus in the message-list to the message on the top / bottom / (even 
middle of the screen)?][1]) I used KeyboardMaestro for this.


I didn't find any MailMate-commands to do this (similar to [Workaround 
for sending a link from Safari via MailMate][2]) so I simply recorded 
the clicks on the top / bottom / middle of the list of the messages (see 
the attached KeyboardMaestro-MacroLibrary).

It's not elegant at all but it does what it should :-/
Perhaps some of you could also use something like this.

Now if I only could scroll the window with the messages-list to put this 
now active message from the middle / bottom to the top of the window (or 
from the top / middle to the bottom, or even from the top / bottom to 
the middle! :-)…



Regards,
Vlad





[1]: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg05448.html


[2]: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg05499.html
http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd";>


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AuthorURL

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Category1
Interface Control
Category2

Description

Items


Activate
Normal
CreationDate
0.0
IsActive

Macros


Actions


Action

MoveAndClick
Button
0
ClickCount
1

DisplayMatches


DragHorizontalPosition
0

DragVerticalPosition
0
Fuzz
15

HorizontalPositionExpression
864
IsActive

IsDisclosed


MacroActionType

MouseMoveAndClick
Modifiers
0
MouseDrag
None
Relative
Window

RelativeCorner
TopLeft

RestoreMouseLocation


VerticalPositionExpression
1398


CreationDate
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IsActive

ModificationDate
478496269.61106199
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activate the message on the 
bottom
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KeyCode
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[MlMt] What's the name of the "Flagged"-Mailbox?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I would like to make a keyboard-shortcut for showing the 
"*Flagged*"-Mailbox, like this:


	"F" 	= ( "goToMailbox:", "Flagged", "makeFirstResponder:", 
"mainOutline" );


but the name *Flagged* doesn't work.

What's the correct name then?

Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] What's the name of the "Flagged"-Mailbox?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 7 Mar 2016, at 21:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 6 Mar 2016, at 3:55, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

I would like to make a keyboard-shortcut for showing the 
"*Flagged*"-Mailbox, like this:


	"F" 	= ( "goToMailbox:", "Flagged", "makeFirstResponder:", 
"mainOutline" );


but the name *Flagged* doesn't work.

What's the correct name then?


It's `FLAGGED`.


Thanks!


You can put it on the pasteboard by selecting the mailbox and then use 
“Edit ▸ Copy” (⌘C). This works for any mailbox.


Ah, now I remember this!
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Re: [MlMt] Flagged-Mailbox shows unflagged message

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 29 Feb 2016, at 16:46, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

It has also been suggested to make it possible to have a shortcut to 
refresh a mailbox (as if re-selecting the mailbox).



That would indeed also solve this problem!


And it solved it!
Waiting for the MailMate-refresh I've made a workaround… yes, in 
KeyboardMaestro again ;-)
Pressing CMD-R now makes a fast switch to another mailbox and back to 
the FLAGGED-mailbox again.
It's actually a sort of refresh, because it works only for the 
FLAGGED-mailbox, but it's good enough for now.


A *real* refresh would be appreciated though.
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Re: [MlMt] CardDAV multi address book support?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 7 Mar 2016, at 21:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

I'm pretty sure BusyContacts can synchronize with a server and that 
Contacts can synchronize with the same server.


BusyContacts *synchronizes* with a server - I'm using it with my 
contacts in iCloud.


BUT: Wouldn't be possible to make MailMate open BusyContacts instead of 
OS X's Contacts app, when searching for a contact from / within 
MailMate?


(it's a little like the question about making MailMate the default 
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Re: [MlMt] CardDAV multi address book support?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 8 Mar 2016, at 10:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 8 Mar 2016, at 5:56, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

BUT: Wouldn't be possible to make MailMate open BusyContacts instead 
of OS X's Contacts app, when searching for a contact from / within 
MailMate?


That's tricky since there is no such thing as a default address book 
application. Well, there is an `addressbook:` URL scheme, but that 
seems to be for Contacts only (in theory, BusyContacts could 
“steal” it like MailMate does for `message:`, but I'm sure they 
would have done that if it worked well).


Googling I found 
[this](https://support.busymac.com/help/56235-busycontacts-url-handler#other). 
BusyContacts supports a very similar URL scheme which should make it 
relatively simple to do “Show in Contacts”. “Add to Contacts” 
is a bit more tricky.


LaunchBar use it too: Looking for a contact in LaunchBar now opens 
BusyContacts instead of OS X's Contacts.




I'll note to look into it.


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Re: [MlMt] Flagged-Mailbox shows unflagged message

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 8 Mar 2016, at 11:20, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> I've added `refreshMailbox:` to the set of available key bindings

Hurray! :-)


> (not released yet).

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Re: [MlMt] CardDAV multi address book support?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 8 Mar 2016, at 11:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 8 Mar 2016, at 10:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Googling I found 
[this](https://support.busymac.com/help/56235-busycontacts-url-handler#other). 
BusyContacts supports a very similar URL scheme which should make it 
relatively simple to do “Show in Contacts”. “Add to Contacts” 
is a bit more tricky.


I'll note to look into it.


Try this in the next update of MailMate:

	defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDefaultAddressBook -string 
com.busymac.busycontacts


I'll do.
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[MlMt] Show Mailboxes' shortcut works only sometimes

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


I'm using MailMate mostly in in the *Widescreen*-View, showing my *All 
Messages*-mailbox but **whitout showing the mailboxes itself**.


Once in a while I want to see the mailboxes though, so I press 
CTRL-ALT-CMD-D (the shortcut for *View > Layout > Show Mailboxes*).


That works… sometimes!
The behavior is inconsistent, once in a while I only get a beep and 
nothing happens after it. Choosing the menu-item *breaks the spell* and 
after this the shortcut works again… until it strikes again, 
apparently with no reason.


Does somebody has seen this as well?

Thanks!


Regards,
Vlad


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Re: [MlMt] What do the red dots mean?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Mar 2016, at 15:13, temjeito wrote:


Interesting. Mine are blue….


See the message before: mine too, **BUT** the red ones are only visible 
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Re: [MlMt] What do the red dots mean?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Mar 2016, at 15:44, Bill Cole wrote:

So: a red dot in the "Read" column means that something other than 
MailMate marked the message for deletion but has not yet told the 
server to purge it.


*THAT* was eye-opening, Bill, thanks a lot!

I managed to find the culprit - I was it! :-( - and understand now a 
series of previously mysteriously vanished mail-messages.


Thanks again!


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Re: [MlMt] Show Mailboxes' shortcut works only sometimes

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:29, Sherif Soliman wrote:

My intuition is that it has something to do with where the focus is 
when I invoke the keyboard shortcut.


That could be the case here, yes. I discovered a couple of similar 
"*out-of-focus*" (small) issues that I tried to cover with 
*"makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline"* that I've learned here, but this 
doesn't work always.



I'm not 100% certain, but I think clicking in the list of messages to 
bring the focus there and then invoking the keyboard shortcut "makes" 
the shortcut work.


This doesn't work for me.
Right now I have the focus on your message, but the shortcut doesn't 
work. It's only choosing it again from the menu bar that correct this… 
until next time :-/



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[MlMt] What do the red dots mean?

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

Hello!


What do the red dots left to the messages mean - see the screenshot 
linked here:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1560338/Bildschirmfoto%202016-03-18%20um%2009.01.54.png

Thanks!


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Re: [MlMt] Flagged-Mailbox shows unflagged message

[Vlad Ghitulescu]

On 8 Mar 2016, at 11:20, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 8 Mar 2016, at 5:52, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


A *real* refresh would be appreciated though.


I've added `refreshMailbox:` to the set of available key bindings (not 
released yet).


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