[MlMt] What is the equivalent command for the "thread" toolbar button.

2014-01-03 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hello and happy new year.

I'm kicking the tires on MailMate and am loving it so far -- I
especially appreciate the extra work done recently to better
accommodate gmail labels (among many other things).

A few questions:

(1) I feel like I'm missing something obvious (sorry for that), but I
can't find the equivalent menu item to get the "thread" view achieved
by clicking the "Thread" button in the toolbar. Same goes for the
"Correspondence" button, too. I really just want to drop into those
views via some keyboard shortcut, but I guess the first step is to
find them in the Menu bar :-)

(2) Are there plans to somehow show the tags for a given message in
message-list component, somehow? Perhaps add an option to show a "tags
column." Or maybe show the tags in the subject column (preceding the
subject itself) in a similar way that is done in the gmail web client?

Although we can view the tags in the headers of the message when it is
selected, I think it could be handy to be able to see the tags per
message en-masse.

Thanks for what looks to be a great email client.

-steve

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Re: [MlMt] Show Signatures keybinding not working anymore

2014-01-14 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi Giovanni,

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Giovanni Lanzani  wrote:
[snip]
> Ah, this is curious.
>
> If I do ⌃⌘M (for markdown), it always work, with left and right control
> keys. But ⌃⌘S, only works using right control key!!

Out of curiosity:

* are you using a non-apple external keyboard?

* have you messed around with the Modifier Key map (via System
Preferenes > Keyboard > Modifier Keys ...)

-steve

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Re: [MlMt] Wunderlist

2014-01-15 Thread Steve Lianoglou
> Don’t worry, I use these requests to enhance MailMate with general features
> which can be used for other purposes as well. (Although I do seem to have a
> long list of requests for more GTD apps: DevonThink, TaskPaper, Wunderlist,
> rememberthemilk, …).

... and, perhaps, 2Do.app ... :-)

-steve

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Re: [MlMt] No action for a long time, suddenly 50+ messages?

2014-03-16 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi,

On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Seebs  wrote:
> I've had occasional recurrences of a very strange UI glitch with MailMate
> recently. The behavior is that, the moment I actually activate MailMate's
> window and click on a message, suddenly a ton of messages appear, all new
> and unread. No mail appears to be duplicated or lost here, it's just that
> Mailmate's not showing an icon badge, or any new messages, and then when I
> click on a thing, suddenly it's showing a bunch of messages (87, this time)
> with timestamps running back a day or so, all brand new.

Are you on Mavericks?

If so, this might be the "App Nap" problem. There was a thread about
this a while back on the mailing list. The root of that thread is
here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg02097.html

HTH,
-steve

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Re: [MlMt] External Editor To Compose Messages?

2014-03-18 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Billy Youdelman  wrote:
> Greetings -
>
> I'm curious if anyone besides me would be interested in a MailMate option to
> use an external text editor for composing messages?  After about 40 years of
> using DEC's keypad controlled text editor, and having recently taken the VMS
> cluster down, this is something I now really wish I still had available.  I
> do have a very decent emulation of it (jed) running on OS X, and it's easy
> to call, at least from non-GUI programs.  But, MailMate is far superior to
> mutt, et al., so I thought I'd see if there's enough demand to make it worth
> implementing.  As well, Text Wrangler/BB Edit are wonderful editors for
> those who prefer GUI tools, and there is no shortage of other good character
> cell and GUI text editors.

These are already available. If I'm not mistaken, there are bundles
that allow you to edit/compose a message in Aquamacs, TextMate and
SublimeText and you can take these as inspiration for creating a
bundle for the editor of your choice.

The mailing list has more info about these. The most recent thread
about this topic starts here:
http://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2014-March/002186.html

If you search the list, you should find some more.

HTH,
-steve

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Re: [MlMt] External Editor To Compose Messages?

2014-03-26 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi,

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:23 AM, TJ Luoma  wrote:
> (Aside: I think MultiMarkdown is the best of the bunch variant of the
> bunch, and should supersede Markdown itself. Gruber has pretty much
> let sit idle since it was created, which he apparently considers that
> a _feature_ of Markdown. MultiMarkdown supports Markdown itself, but
> adds proper footnotes and tables, which are needed for many users.)

A bit of navel gazing:

Primarily due to the tools I use having picked it, I'm rather a fan of
pandoc-flavored markdown:

http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/demo/example9/pandocs-markdown.html

A more nicely formatted version of that page is here:
http://rmarkdown.rstudio.com/authoring_pandoc_markdown.html

If I had to guess (and I shouldn't have to, as I could do the
comparisons myself given some time and motivation), I'd guess pandoc's
MM flavor will be a slight (but useful) superset to MMD so I thought
I'd just point it out in case others find it useful.

-steve

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Re: [MlMt] Leaving search and tags

2014-04-13 Thread Steve Lianoglou
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Kee Hinckley  wrote:
>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "Max Rydahl Andersen"  
>> wrote:
>
>> Just want to give my vote for making Esc for search just remove the search 
>> criteria and not change the current folder selection.
>>
>> I *can* though in some cases see the value of Esc "going back", thus I would 
>> suggest maybe make that behaviour available when doing Alt/Option + Esc ?
>
> Yeah, that's an odd one. Often it's just what I wanted, but other times it 
> surprises and annoys me. I agree it's probably worth having both behaviors, 
> the question is...which is the default for ESC? I guess I'd tend slightly 
> towards staying in the same place. Whether or not it's what you want, it 
> seems less surprising.

If we're running an informal poll here, I'd also vote for Esc to
default to staying in the same place, as well.

-steve

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[MlMt] Condition the default message view preference on

2014-04-25 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi,

I know we have a "Prefer plain text" option in the preferences that
allows us to pick the default "view" of an email as text (or not).
Currently I have this set to "prefer plain text".

I'm curious, however, if this preference can be different based on
some condition.

For instance, I might actually prefer work related emails (ie. if the
email is sent from someone within my co's domain) to default to view
as HTML since some people genuinely put useful formatting in their
emails (or general announcements might include useful formatting) that
I would want to see from the outset -- of course if everyone wrote
with markdown syntax, the plain text would do just as well, but alas
;-)

Is it possible to somehow (documented or otherwise) set this
preference based on some rule based something? As mentioned, regex
matching against headers (from/to) could be ideal -- but even just a
preference based on the email account the mail lands in would be
helpful as well. Not sure if one would be easier than the other based
on what's "in" mailmate already.

Thanks,
-steve

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Re: [MlMt] Trying to understand tags/folders for GMail

2014-06-02 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi,

Just a question on part of this thread:

On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Benny Kjær Nielsen
 wrote:
> On 1 Jun 2014, at 22:24, Jonathan Clark wrote:

>> Having formed a "_todo" tag, I have gone back and used it to tag a number
>> of the messages in the _todo folder, and I have synchronised and re-started
>> the app. But the "_todo" folder still shows. Am I missing something?
>
>
> Are the Gmail labels inside another mailbox? In that case the Gmail label
> provided in the Tags preferences pane must include the parent mailbox, for
> example, "[Gmail]/_todo". Perhaps you can get an idea of what is going on if
> you open the Activity Viewer and observe the logging done when trying to
> enable/disable "_todo".

Is every label in gmail meant to go under the [Gmail] mailbox?

I have labels like project/XXX and project/YYY (ie, "project" is the
top level label in gmail (when working through their web interface))
and that's how I specify the "Gmail label" in my "Tags" preference
pane.

This seems to work correctly. When I tag emails locally via mailmate,
the gmail label is added correctly in the gmail web interface.

However I suffer from a similar problem mentioned below:

>> And another issue: when I'm away from the Mac, I will use a variety of iOS
>> apps to triage mail. This includes filing to the _todo folder. When I do
>> this it doesn't seem to add the _todo tag. Is this related to the first
>> issue?
>
>
> That sounds very likely.

But I see that when I am triaging email in the gmail web interface by
adding labels that are registered correctly (or so I thought) in
mailmate, mailmate won't update the message locally with the newly
applied tag.

I just thought that that was the way of things, but now I'm curious:
should I expect the tag to update in MailMate locally? That'd be nice
:-)

Thanks,

-steve

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Re: [MlMt] "reply:" vs. "replySender:" keybindings

2014-06-05 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi,

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:54 AM, John Cooper  wrote:
> What is the difference between the "reply:" and "replySender:" keybindings?
> (Under what circumstances does "reply:" not reply to the sender?)

Just a stab in the dark, but perhaps when there is a reply-to header set?

-steve

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