[MlMt] Does MailMate mirror everything back to the server?
I've read a bunch of stuff about how MailMate works, but I'm still confused about where all of the emails live. I have been using email since the early 1990s. I have used POP3 this entire time. Downloading emails to my computer and deleting them off of the server has worked well for me. I'm also uncomfortable having gigabytes of my life stored in the so-called cloud. My perception of IMAP was always the GMail approach. People have their entire email history on Google's servers and only have access to it when they have an internet connection. Reading a bunch about MailMate makes me think that it does not exactly work this way. If I were to use MailMate, where would my emails reside? Does it download everything off of the server? Then what? Does it delete it off of the server? Or does it leave everything still up there? So basically I have local and remote copies that stay in sync? What if I want to keep the server empty? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Does MailMate mirror everything back to the server?
> IMAP is better if you have more than one device. I know that's the standard use case, but it doesn't apply to me. The only reason I'm considering IMAP, is because MailMate has some features I want. I have many hundreds of email addresses. It's how I control spam. It looks like MailMate won't choke on that. MM is also the only true power-user's mail client that I've found. It has a lot of flexibility and customizability. That's all appealing, but it seems like the way I use email is more compatible with the POP3 philosophy. > you can always run dovecot or some such on your laptop; you'll > then be speaking IMAP locally. I looked into that. It seems complicated and prone to failure. I'm technical enough. I know I could get it running, but that's a hassle. Something could go wrong at an inopportune time. I'd prefer to leave dovecot and mail servers to the experts. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Does MailMate mirror everything back to the server?
Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: > Just mentioning the above as the powers of imap are varied but I think you'll > find it beats any POP3 setup. I'm trying to keep an open mind. Just because I've done things one way for 25 years doesn't mean it's best (usually the opposite). I tried IMAP a couple of years ago, and I just wasn't happy having to go onto the server to get copies of emails I needed to look at again. MailMate would allow me to find it on my hard drive, but then why do I need a copy sitting up on the server? This is obviously a philosophical question about approach to email. The need to access from more than one machine is a possibility in the future. Maybe I could try to keep only emails from the last month or year on the server and within MailMate. Older stuff that I still want I could offload to my main computer. Elsewhere on this list, people have discussed archiving emails. DevonThink, EagleFiler, and Foxtrot were mentioned. I could look into some sort of approach using one of those. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Does MailMate mirror everything back to the server?
Jan Erik Moström wrote: > Yes, when I switched to IMAP (when I bought my first iPhone and wanted > to access email from it) I had some "mental issues" with this but I've > changed my mind. I can see the advantages to it. TBH, my current approach to email is not serving me well. I frequently get overwhelmed by all of the stuff I get in a day. I'd love to try an inbox zero approach, but my inbox has thousands of old emails that are too important to toss but not important enough to take the time to save out to the hard drive (lots of conversations with people, etc.). >> Elsewhere on this list, people have discussed archiving >> emails. DevonThink, EagleFiler, and Foxtrot were mentioned. > > My personal take on this: don't bother (if you have the disk space), > none of the email archiving solutions I've seen does a really good job. > It's way easier to keep them all on the server. Hmmm . . . It does sound like there are some advantages to that. A lot of it might simply be forcing my brain to accept change. I had to use GMail on my last job and never liked it. A local program like MM that talks to the IMAP server for me might be workable. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Make the From address display in the Compose window
I have a bazillion email addresses, which I use to control spam. MailMate seems to be reliably choosing the correct address when I reply to an email. However, it defaults to my main email address for any new emails I compose. The problem is that I can't tell what email address it's using just by looking at the compose window, because the From field is not displayed. It's way too easy to forget to enter the correct email alias as my From address when I'm composing a new email, so I end up leaking my real address. Is there a way to make the From address display as a field above the To address? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Make the From address display in the Compose window
Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > If the popup is not shown then how can you edit the From address? I'm new to MM and still figuring this out. I see part of the problem, but it still doesn't resolve the bigger issue, which is really what I posted about. I only had one address (my real one) defined in the IMAP account editor, so MM wasn't displaying the FROM popup in the status bar. Other mail clients always display the FROM field, so I had been in the habit of looking at that field and changing it if necessary. In MM, I had to get into the habit of going to the Format menu and selecting Show Identities. I have now defined a second address. I see now that MM now shows the FROM popup menu in the status bar. I can now see which address it has selected. > No, but that's a change which has been on my todo for a long time. > I don't think it works well that it's in the status bar. I agree. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Ignore or fix Runbox marking email as spam
MailMate is perpetually putting emails from certain senders into the Junk folder. No matter how many times I click "Move Out of Junk", it doesn't learn and keeps doing this. I do not have SpamSieve enabled or mailbox rules enabled. I finally looked at the raw source file of one of these emails and discovered that Runbox is flagging these. Here's an excerpt: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on antispam01.runbox.com X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.2 required=4.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,MIME_HTML_ONLY,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,TO_NO_BRKTS_HTML_ONLY shortcircuit=no autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * 1.0 FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD 'From' gmail.com does not match 'Received' * headers * 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override * is CUSTOM_MED * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail * provider ([redacted][at]gmail.com) * 1.1 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 0.6 HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG HTML-only message, but there is no HTML * tag * 1.0 KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY Sending domain does not have any * anti-forgery methods * 1.2 NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED ADSP custom_med hit, and not from a mailing * list * 1.3 TO_NO_BRKTS_HTML_ONLY To: lacks brackets and HTML only What is the easiest and/or best fix for this problem? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Ignore or fix Runbox marking email as spam
You might want to take a look at Runbox's filtering options - see https://help.runbox.com/filter/ I use Runbox too and generally find their spam-filtering pretty good. You can 'train' it to your specific needs using their webmail interface. I don't think Mailmate has any direct influence on what gets marked (or not) as spam by Runbox. Thanks. I wasn’t clear on that. I think this will solve my problem. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Can MM handle Runbox folders?
I'm using Runbox. They allow you to create folders inside of the Inbox. I set up a folder there and set up a filter on the Runbox server to direct certain emails into that Inbox subfolder. I know I could leave Runbox out of the equation altogether and set up a smart folder in MM to do the same thing. The reason I didn't is for when I access my mail from my phone. I would like those emails in that subfolder on Runbox, so they are easy to find. At the moment, MM can't see that folder. If an email comes in and Runbox puts it into that subfolder, MM doesn't know about it. My unread email counter isn't updated, and I can't see the folder at all from within MM. Is this configuration on Runbox supported by MM? What do I have to configure within MM to see and access that folder? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Can MM handle Runbox folders?
Thanks for the response. The funny thing is that the folder eventually showed up on its own. So MM is smart enough to handle it automatically. It just wasn't triggered immediately. On 10 Aug 2020, at 20:13, Bill Cole mmlist-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote: On 10 Aug 2020, at 22:49, Ron Britton wrote: I'm using Runbox. They allow you to create folders inside of the Inbox. I set up a folder there and set up a filter on the Runbox server to direct certain emails into that Inbox subfolder. I know I could leave Runbox out of the equation altogether and set up a smart folder in MM to do the same thing. The reason I didn't is for when I access my mail from my phone. I would like those emails in that subfolder on Runbox, so they are easy to find. At the moment, MM can't see that folder. If an email comes in and Runbox puts it into that subfolder, MM doesn't know about it. My unread email counter isn't updated, and I can't see the folder at all from within MM. Is this configuration on Runbox supported by MM? What do I have to configure within MM to see and access that folder? You likely need to edit the subscriptions of the IMAP account. Select the account and "Mailbox->Edit IMAP Account..." menu item will open a window titled "IMAP Account Settings" with a button labeled "Edit Subscriptions" which should allow you to select the mailboxes you wish to see. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (currently) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
