[MlMt] Junk Mail folder
Hi, I am new user, SUPER happy, but I have a question -and have searched the list and docs and haven't found the answer. Mailmate has created a top level "Junk" folder for both IMAP accounts I have that isn't a smart folder. How does this folder work? Are there rules that put mail in there, or is it mapped to any IMAP folder with "spam" in the name? I thought it was keyed to the IMAP folder name, since it appeared to map to a folder that I had called "_spam_maybe" that was testing some procmail rules but I renamed it and it still appears under the Junk folder under mailboxes and the setting for Mailbox type is greyed out. Any hints as to how that folder works? thanks, Jon ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Junk Mail folder
On 28 Mar 2014, at 10:25, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 28 Mar 2014, at 17:48, Jon Garrison wrote: Mailmate has created a top level "Junk" folder for both IMAP accounts I have that isn't a smart folder. How does this folder work? Are there rules that put mail in there, No, messages are only moved to Junk if you have SpamSieve installed/enabled. or is it mapped to any IMAP folder with "spam" in the name? Yes, something like that. For each IMAP account MailMate first looks for any mailbox explicitly assigned for junk (only few servers do this). If that does not exist then MailMate guesses based on words like junk, spam, and bulk. This is just a guess and within each IMAP account (under SOURCES) you can override it by explicitly assigning the Junk mailbox type to another IMAP mailbox. I thought it was keyed to the IMAP folder name, since it appeared to map to a folder that I had called "_spam_maybe" that was testing some procmail rules but I renamed it and it still appears under the Junk folder under mailboxes and the setting for Mailbox type is greyed out. Also greyed out when selected within the IMAP account under SOURCES in the mailbox outline? After I renamed the folder (to "_frogs"), I was able to uncheck the type under SOURCES. Once I changed it back to _spam_maybe it will not let me uncheck it as Junk but will let me reclassify, but the other options aren't applicable and there is no option for "none of the above." This is all academic anyway since it was a folder for potential junk mail so I am OK with the classification, but someone else might want the option to have a folder with one of those keywords in it and have it not classified. Thanks for trying out MailMate. Your awesome support here in the mailing list tipped my over, I am going to buy right now. I was only waiting to see if it went on sale before the 30 days was up anyway! -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate seems crashy of late
I think I am having a crash a week or so, and also UI freezes. Since I opted into test builds and I am nowhere near the time lost to mail.app being out of sync with google IMAP, I am certainly not dissapointed yet. On 1 May 2014, at 7:44, Eric A. Meyer wrote: I'm posting this here because I don't have enough for an actual bug report, but MailMate has seemed rather crash-prone for the past month or so, through several versions. I'm currently running Version 1.7.2 (4199) on OS X 10.8.5 (12F45). I get a couple of crashes a day, feels like, at least on days I get to do any email at all. For a while I thought it was to do with my marking messages read/unread while in Smart Folders, but I've come to realize that crashes happen even when not doing that. (At least, I don't think so. I do that kind of thing al the time.) It never crashes in the background-- only when I'm interacting with MM. So I'm posting here to see if anyone else is having similar experiences. Hopefully my crash reports are making it in (I have "Phone Home" enabled), but if others are having similar experiences, we might be able to figure out the common threads. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Using Gmail
I use mailmate with my personal (vanilla IMAP) account and my work email
that is google apps for business. They both seem the same.
I don't have ANY issues with gmail, but I have pretty basic labeling.
Basically I treat them like folders, but I do have some server side
rules that result in mail getting multiple labels and I don't see any
issues.
I get email on time without delays which is what I wasn't getting with
mail.app...
I do bounce to the web client to make filters/labels and occasionally
for the port 80/443 when outbound SMTP is blocked by whatever client
site network I am on.
Jon
On 16 May 2014, at 3:41, Gary Hull wrote:
If you have a lot of legacy e-mail in a Gmail account, then I
certainly understand that MailMate support for Gmail labels would be
helpful. But it sounds like you recently moved to Gmail. In that case,
make sure that you take a close look at MailMate's smart mailboxes, at
at tags.
For instance, I used labels on Gmail for messages related to a
particular business line. But in MailMate I'm able to cover that with
an (admittedly super complex) smart mailbox that doesn't take any
maintenance on my part. (The mailbox picks up on e-mail domains,
names, keywords in the mail body, etc.) (In a worst case scenario, if
a few things fall through the cracks, you can pick them up in the
smart mailbox by adding an ANY ... tag = [___] in there at the end of
the conditions and manually apply tags.
Tags are pretty much labels, but they don't map back and forth to
Gmail. After getting things set up, however, you really never need to
log into the Gmail web interface. It's a nice web app, but in theory
you've made the decision to go with a Mac-side client, perhaps because
you have a bunch of different accounts to track. So in that case, who
cares if the Gmail app doesn't show the tags as labels if you're not
using the web app?
(A question I just thought of: Are MailMate tags transferred up to
IMAP servers and then down again to, for instance, another MailMate
installation on another Macintosh? To non-MailMate IMAP clients?)
On 16 May 2014, at 18:38, Alasdair Muckart wrote:
Thanks Gary,
I completely understand the design decisions behind MailMate, and
Google's strange not-quite-IMAP implementation. The reality though is
that Gmail (and GIMAP) actually work *really* well, and recent
comments made me wonder if there was more label-compatibility coming
in MM.
On 16 May 2014 at 8:13:44 pm, Gary Hull (yh82d7...@yandex.com) wrote:
My impression is that MailMate doesn't deal well with Gmail by
design,
and there's no plan to natively support Gmail. MailMate is a
standards-based e-mail client that follows the various IMAP RFCs.
Gmail
uses an undocumented proprietary fork/hack of IMAP ("GIMAP").
There's
only one developer for MailMate, and he has to prioritize. In
addition,
Google could change things at any time and break MailMate, and given
the
rumors that the results of the Sparrow acquisition are about to bear
fruit, it seems like it's in Google's interest to "encourage" Gmail
users to migrate to Google's own PC-side client, rather than use
other
clients, so if, oops!, stuff "accidentally" starts to break in other
clients that try to support GIMAP, hey, that's the way the cookie
crumbles.
However, in the MailMate documentation there are hacks given for
those
who must use Gmail, the first of which is "Don't use labels," the
second
of which is "If you do you use labels use one and only one label for
every each and every e-mail," and the third of which is "If you must
use
labels as tags and put more than one on each e-mail, get used to a
lot
of duplicated e-mails, because GIMAP presents labels as separate
folders
to connecting IMAP clients."
On 16 May 2014, at 16:28, Alasdair Muckart wrote:
Hi all,
For various reasons I've had to migrate all of my email out of the
'normal' (courier) IMAP server I was using over to Google (apps for
business).
The current documentation seems to indicate that MM still doesn't
deal
too well with Gmail and labels, and with my current setup I really
need the labels in Gmail.
For the moment I'm using Airmail which is nice and fast and seems
to
handle gmails quirks Ok, but doesn't locally cache mail and is
having
some issues actually finding all 270-odd thousand messages I have.
I'd very much like to keep using MailMate, so I'm interested in
what
the options are for setting it up with Gmail in a way that'll allow
me
to keep my label setup.
Thanks.
--
Alasdair Muckart | William de Wyke | http://wherearetheelves.net
"There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a
little worse
and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only
are
this man's
lawful prey." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900.
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Re: [MlMt] Dispatch for iOS
I think this should be possible- With the Launch Center Pro app, you can have actions like "take this list of natural language events, parse with Fantastical, and return to Launch Center Pro" so similar things work with support for the callback-url. I hope someone with more free time than me works it out! http://www.macstories.net/tutorials/saving-multiple-fantastical-events-in-a-row-with-editorial-1-1/ Jon On 2 Jun 2014, at 6:40, Edward Thome wrote: On 31 May 2014, at 18:29, Joshua Kehn wrote: Was checking this out today as well, so far it's great. My only complaint (and this is more iOS specific issue) is that OmniFocus has to launch and then you have to switch back to Dispatch which interrupts the “ruthless swipe out your inbox” mentality --jk That might me a byproduct of how iOS deals with background applications, rather than something that Dispatch can do something about, but I don't know. It is nice to have that capability when away from MailMate. Ed ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] MacVim integration
Hi, I am trying to set MacVim as my editor and and python is crashing when I invoke the command. MacVim starts up and it all appears to work except for the python crashing dialog. I am pretty sure it has to do with MacVim being compiled with MacPorts (which I had to do to get YouCompleteMe to work). I can do python things if I start MacVim normally but when started via Mailmate, it seems to use the system python rather than the one MacVim is compiled against in /opt/local/bin/python Anyone have any hints? Jon ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Close to pulling trigger.
I use VIP with Mailmate and like the balance. My phone doesn't even notice most email, only the VIPs get notifications and nobody gets badges. When I am in the desktop app I don't need that protection, I am doing email and it is time to process all of it. On 5 Dec 2014, at 10:23, Robert Garcia wrote: I manage several clients and our own mail server for all of them. I have moved myself and several of my largest clients off of gmail (gapps) email and onto our own mail server, zarafa, which has been working fine. Most of us use macs and have been using Airmail as the client, which works pretty well with Gmail. Airmail 2 came out and it has tons of issues and takes up tons of CPU, etc. Also has bugs with Zarafa. We went back to mac mail, which is so piggy and have been looking for alternatives. I have downloaded and tried every mac client available. Mailmate would not win a beauty contest, but it works great. I felt it was sluggish and piggy, like apple mail, then I found the latest 64 bit version. Wow, so smooth, nice, doesn't use much cpu, that made everything better. Before I recommend this to the rest of my family and clients, though, I am struggling with one issue. How to make some type of smart folder with VIP users? We all user our iPhones and iPads and use VIP, and when your desktop client doesn't comply, it makes it tough. It is probably the only single feature that pulls me back to apple mail. Any thoughts? -- Robert Garcia BigHead Technology 15520 Coutolenc Rd Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 fax: 530.645.4040 rgar...@bighead.net - http://bighead.net/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] suggestion - search buttons
This is awesome! Is it possible to change my keybinding to point to this instead of the old style? I have this: "/" = "mailboxSearch:"; And I tried a few guesses, but no luck. Jon On 5 Feb 2015, at 12:25, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 30 Jan 2015, at 10:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 30 Jan 2015, at 8:57, Giovanni Lanzani wrote: On 29 Jan 2015, at 23:47, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: Oh man, I'd pay a reasonable sum of money to have a search interface like this, using the various key-words from the drop downs instead of the dropdown. "from:*.domain.com before:01-12-2014 after:17-03-2013 NOT (subject:"Invoice*" OR from:landl...@evil.com)" would that be difficult to implement? No, I think I've also described my plan in the past (although maybe it wasn't on the mailing list). I already have a very experimental implementation (too experimental to be enabled for testing or even be used by myself). In short, my plan is to do something very close to what Scott describes, but it's going to be customizable in the sense that *power* users can make their own quick search language if they provide a script which converts it to the internal MailMate query language (which is too verbose to be used directly). The default quick search language is going to be an example of that. But I don't have time to finish it soon. Right now, the main focus is making the 64 bit release sufficiently stable to replace the 32 bit release. Well, I might not have “finished” this feature, but it's certainly in a useful state now. Fetch the latest test release, read the instructions in the release notes, and try it out. Also, I believe I've fixed the worst bugs in the 64 bit version of MailMate. If recent releases have been unstable for you then try again now. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Shortcut for new old toolbarsearch
FWIW, "/" = "searchAllMessages:"; is working (WONDERFULLY) here. Jon On 9 Feb 2015, at 14:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 9 Feb 2015, at 22:29, Phil Marlowe wrote: However, i can't find an already assigned shortcut for entering the search field. Did I missed it? The standard ⌥⌘F (see the Edit > Find menu). How could I assign one by myself, probably through the custom keybinding settings. But what is the right Key Binding Selector? `"f" = ( "searchAllMessages:");` doesn't work here... any hints? That should work too. Are you sure? -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate and TextExpander
As a data point, this is not happening for me with the newest textexpander. On 9 Jun 2015, at 11:58, Sherman Wilcox wrote: I don’t know whether this is a MailMate or a TextExpander issue, but I suspect the MailMate list might be more helpful to me, so I’m posting here. I alternate between liking TextExpander (TE) and Typinator for my snippets app. Since TE recently was updated, I thought I’d give it a try. In MailMate, I have a keybinding “r” for Reply. When I run TE, and type “r” to reply in MailMate, following by a Return, I get a capital “R” inserted in the body of the new reply. [This seems to happen only if I have also selected some text to quote in the reply.] Does anyone have any idea why this should be? I’ll also try sending a message to Smile Software to see what they say, and if they have an answer I’ll post it here. -- Sherman Wilcox ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Disable / redirect Key combinations for Layout views
Hi,
I only use the three pane view, and hit the Command-{1-6} key combos
accidentally several times a day as an artifact of spending a lot of time in
Linux for work.
I looked around, but I do not see a way to disable or redirect them.
Any help would be appreciated!
Jon
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Re: [MlMt] Disable / redirect Key combinations for Layout views
Awesome, thanks! This will get me close, but it seems you need unique menu
items, and I need no-op choices. "Bring All to Front" and 'Arrange in Front"
killed 2 for me, though.
Jon
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Randall Meadows wrote:
> On 26 Apr 2021, at 13:21, Jon Garrison wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I only use the three pane view, and hit the Command-{1-6} key combos
> > accidentally several times a day as an artifact of spending a lot of
> > time in Linux for work.
> >
> > I looked around, but I do not see a way to disable or redirect them.
>
> You can redefine them in the Keyboard system prefpane: Shortcuts > App
> Shortcuts > Mailmate—just add new ones for the ones you want to get
> rid of.
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