[MlMt] column view
How is it possible to set up, once for all and for all mailboxes, the list of items to be displayed : from, to, attachment, subject, tag, ….? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] column view
Thank you. I thought I did that already, but each mailbox still seemed to act independently. Probably because I did not erase the previous preferences. Alain On 13 Jun 2016, at 9:50, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 10 Jun 2016, at 17:32, Alain Israel wrote: How is it possible to set up, once for all and for all mailboxes, the list of items to be displayed : from, to, attachment, subject, tag, ….? First delete anything which might already have been saved for individual mailboxes (paste the line in a Terminal window): defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates Relaunch MailMate and then select, for example, the Inbox and setup your preferred columns (and threading mode if you like). Finally, use “View ▸ Columns ▸ Use as Default Columns”. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Colours
As far as I understand, you can’t color the messages, but you have 6 choices of color for the flags, and combined with the use of tags, it is quite convenient (although not as visual as colored messages). Alain On 29 Jun 2016, at 14:47, Mark Wadham wrote: Hi, Is there any way to have colour highlighting of messages in the list view, with custom headers or IMAP flags or some such thing? That would be really handy for quickly seeing important stuff based on a set of rules. Thanks, Mark ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Colours
On 29 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Mark Wadham wrote: On 29 Jun 2016, at 13:57, Alain Israel wrote: As far as I understand, you can’t color the messages, but you have 6 choices of color for the flags, and combined with the use of tags, it is quite convenient (although not as visual as colored messages). How do you apply flags and tags? Flags: Message menu, then Mark as Flagged. It gives you the default color : red. To change color : upper case-F-number (1to 6) (I may have changed the default keys for convenience, I don’t remember, but it can be found in the manual). Tags : https://manual.mailmate-app.com/preferences Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Colours
For this you need to ask Benny. Another point : with certain IMAP servers (Exchange for example), tags disappear from one computer to the other; flags are maintained, but only with the default color. Alain On 29 Jun 2016, at 15:46, Mark Wadham wrote: On 29 Jun 2016, at 14:46, Alain Israel wrote: Flags: Message menu, then Mark as Flagged. It gives you the default color : red. To change color : upper case-F-number (1to 6) (I may have changed the default keys for convenience, I don’t remember, but it can be found in the manual). Tags : https://manual.mailmate-app.com/preferences Thanks, is there a way to set them server-side though? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] archiving folders
This reminds me a related question : does Spotlight index the emails? It does not seem to. Alain On 29 Jun 2016, at 15:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 28 Jun 2016, at 22:26, Howard Wettstein wrote: Is it possible to archive folders? It depends on what you mean. There is the “Command ▸ Export” menu for exporting to the `.mbox` format. You can also simply drag emails to a Finder window/folder. This saves the emails in standard `.eml` format which is searchable via Spotlight (thanks to a Spotlight plugin included with MailMate). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] archiving folders
I enabled it, but it does not seem to index. What does it index exactly : address, mail body, …? Alain On 29 Jun 2016, at 16:03, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 29 Jun 2016, at 16:01, Alain Israel wrote: It should if you have enabled it in preferences.  It does take some time to get it all indexed but once it have caught up it seem to index almost instantly for me. /max This reminds me a related question : does Spotlight index the emails? It does not seem to. Alain On 29 Jun 2016, at 15:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 28 Jun 2016, at 22:26, Howard Wettstein wrote: Is it possible to archive folders? It depends on what you mean. There is the “Command ▸ Export” menu for exporting to the `.mbox` format. You can also simply drag emails to a Finder window/folder. This saves the emails in standard `.eml` format which is searchable via Spotlight (thanks to a Spotlight plugin included with MailMate). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate /max http://about.me/maxandersen___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] search for different Flags
My comment will not answer your question, but it reflects several months
of using colored flags and tags. My impression is that tags are more
useful : they can be used to sort the messages, they can be searched for
throughout all mailboxes, they are recognized by most servers (so
transferable from one computer to the other (except with Exchange),
unlike colored flags), they allow a relatively easy visualization of who
sent what, …
This being said, a more convenient combination of keys to change the
flag color would still be useful.
Alain
On 11 Jul 2016, at 4:37, Gary Hull wrote:
To change the flag colors you have to use the fussy Shift-F, release,
press number process. Is there any way to change them so that a
quicker and easier keyboard shortcut could be used, such as a function
key, or at least a non-shifted lowercase f?
On 29 May 2016, at 17:10, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 28 May 2016, at 22:17, Stephan Bösebeck wrote:
It's cool, that you can easily switch on a flag by hitting `Shift-F`
0-9, so there needs to be some kind of support for searching it
somewhere - I just did not find it yet.
Flags are implemented using IMAP keyword “bits”. A clever
solution by Apple, but MailMate currently doesn't have an easy way to
do colored flag searches. You can only do it by searching for the
corresponding set of bits. Here are the F keybindings:
"F" = {
"0" = ( "removeTag:", "\\Flagged", "removeTag:",
"$MailFlagBit0", "removeTag:", "$MailFlagBit1", "removeTag:",
"$MailFlagBit2" );
"1" = ("setTag:", "\\Flagged", "removeTag:",
"$MailFlagBit0", "removeTag:", "$MailFlagBit1", "removeTag:",
"$MailFlagBit2" );
"2" = ("setTag:", "\\Flagged","setTag:",
"$MailFlagBit0", "removeTag:", "$MailFlagBit1", "removeTag:",
"$MailFlagBit2" );
"3" = ("setTag:", "\\Flagged", "removeTag:",
"$MailFlagBit0","setTag:", "$MailFlagBit1", "removeTag:",
"$MailFlagBit2" );
"4" = ("setTag:", "\\Flagged","setTag:",
"$MailFlagBit0","setTag:", "$MailFlagBit1", "removeTag:",
"$MailFlagBit2" );
"5" = ("setTag:", "\\Flagged", "removeTag:",
"$MailFlagBit0", "removeTag:", "$MailFlagBit1","setTag:",
"$MailFlagBit2" );
"6" = ("setTag:", "\\Flagged","setTag:",
"$MailFlagBit0", "removeTag:", "$MailFlagBit1","setTag:",
"$MailFlagBit2" );
"7" = ("setTag:", "\\Flagged", "removeTag:",
"$MailFlagBit0","setTag:", "$MailFlagBit1","setTag:",
"$MailFlagBit2" );
};
Implicitly, they also tell you what to search for, e.g., F2, means
that `$MailFlagBit0` is enabled and `$MailFlagBit1`/`$MailFlagBit2`
are disabled.
I hope that helps.
--
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Re: [MlMt] enhancement, I think
I agree, this is probably one of the only weak points of MM. However based on my experience with other applications, this is definitively not a trivial issue, and it is certainly dependent on the IMAP server. Benny, in one of your previous emails, you mentioned that the lack of tag syncing (meaning I have to re-tag by hand dozens of emails each time I change computer) coudl be somehow debugged. Is this correct? Alain On 21 Jul 2016, at 11:47, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 20 Jul 2016, at 16:27, Marc ARC wrote: On 18 Jul 2016, at 5:30, Howard Wettstein wrote: I’d like to run MM on my 3 machines: home, office and laptop. As I configure increasingly many smart folders on my home (main) machine , it becomes a headache to reconfigure to other two to match. It would be great if there was a way to update the other machines. I’m sure that Benny has this still on his list since it has been asked in the past. I do, but I've also made no progress on it :| It's one of those features which sounds simply in theory, but in practice there is likely to be all kinds of tricky synchronization issues. I really should revisit it though, particularly for the purpose of smart mailboxes and tags. -- Benny (On vacation, please be patient.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Invisible messages
Incidently, there is no french localization of Mailmate (nor any other language as far as I know). This may deter some potential users, but I understand the amount of work required to adapt the program, amount that will be more usefully used by Benny to improve Mailmate. Alain On 22 Sep 2016, at 21:23, Bill Cole wrote: On 22 Sep 2016, at 4:28, Jean-Pierre Gattuso wrote: Yesterday, at home, I moved messages to an “archive” folder on my IMAP account. Today, at work, these messages are not displayed in the same “archive” folder by MailMate but are displayed on the web mail. How can I get these messages on my work version of Mailmate? I use Version 1.9.5 (5263) on OSX 10.11.6. [Note: the names/labels of various commands and UI components used below are the English ones. If you are using a French localization of MailMate you will need to translate them, as your command of English is clearly MUCH better than my trivial knowledge of French] I'm not certain what the source of the problem is, but there are 3 things that I can think of that could cause this: 1. The "archive" folder is not synchronized on your work machine. You can either find it in the folder hierarchy of the IMAP account in the Sources section of the MailMate mailbox list and synchronize it specifically (in the contextual menu or under the regular Mailbox menu) or use the menu File->Synchronize->All Sources to synchronize everything. If it fails to get synchronized regularly, the root cause could be that it is be set to synchronize only manually, which you can fix by selecting it and using the "Synchronization Schedule" submenu of the Mailbox or contextual menu. 2. The "archive" folder is not understood by MailMate on your work machine to be THE Archive folder (a single special-purpose folder) for that account, and you are looking at the Archive->AccountName folder in the Mailboxes section of MailMate's mailbox list, which is some other folder in that account. To tell MailMate that a specific IMAP folder should be treated as one of the 5 special-purpose folders recognized by MailMate, select the folder in the Sources section of the mailbox list and use the Mailbox Type submenu of the contextual or Mailbox menu. 3. You are not subscribed to the "archive" folder on your work machine. Select the account in the Sources section of the MailMate mailbox list and use the "Edit IMAP Account" option from the contextual or Mailbox menu to open the IMAP Account Settings window. In the center section of that window there is an "Edit Subscriptions..." button that opens a panel listing all of the folders in the IMAP account and their subscription states, both in the server's subscription list and in MailMate's own internal list that governs which folders you actually see (and which get synchronized) in the Sources section of the MailMate mailbox list. This seems to me to be an unlikely cause, since an unsubscribed folder would not be missing messages, it would be be entirely absent. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mailmate et Inbox
This leads me to a somehow related question : would the tag *Important* be transferred from one computer to the other (same account), when using an Exchange-based server? So far the only serious problem I have with MM, although it is not really a MM-specific problem, is that neither tags nor flags (only the defaut color remains, which is better than nothing…..) are maintained when I switch from one computer to the other. My recollection is that the colored mails in Thunderbird were maintained, which means it should be possible (at least I hope). Alain On 28 Sep 2016, at 13:14, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 24 Sep 2016, at 15:13, Olivier Bedouelle wrote: how I did for add a tag mapped to the “Important” Gmail label ? That's actually a good question. I looked into and this should work:  The display name and the IMAP keyword could also have other values, but the “Gmail” label name must be exactly as I've shown in the screenshot. For me, adding this tag automatically resynchronized the account. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mailmate et Inbox
On 3 Oct 2016, at 14:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 29 Sep 2016, at 12:08, Alain Israel wrote: This leads me to a somehow related question : would the tag *Important* be transferred from one computer to the other (same account), when using an Exchange-based server? So far the only serious problem I have with MM, although it is not really a MM-specific problem, is that neither tags nor flags (only the defaut color remains, which is better than nothing…..) are maintained when I switch from one computer to the other. Unfortunately Exchange does not support so-called custom IMAP keywords. This means that tags can only work locally. This is also true for colored flags. Only “Flagged”, “Seen”, and a few other standard keywords can be synchronized. Indeed, but I was wondering whether « Important » is part of these standard keywords, as it could be used as an all purpose tag, while *flagged, seen, junk* have a specific function. Alain___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] iphone
When a Mailmate version for iOS? I am just joking, but the mail clients for iOS are so disappointing….. Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Signature placement
I agree with the first comment : the behavior of this option is relatively unconvenient (or there is something I do not understand), and I have disconnected it and do everything by hand, using *xType* to shortcut the signatures. To defeat automatic insertion, what I do (I am not sure it is the best option) is to have as first signature an empty line. Alain On 17 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Tom Worster wrote: I am baffled by MailMate's behavior wrt signatures. What am I doing wrong? First, if Preferences:Signatures:Default signature placement is set to "Top" then, when I reply to an email, the signature is inserted at the bottom of the reply, below the quoted text. The behavior is the same if it is set to "Bottom", except that this is [less astonishing](Principle of least astonishment). I need to top-reply in most of my correspondences because this is what people expect. And I need my signature to be immediately below my reply and above the quoted text. For now, I copy-paste the signature that MailMate inserts at the bottom of the email to the top and then compose my reply. Second, how do I defeat automatic insertion of a signature? Third, I use signatures as a convenient way to insert various boilerplate texts. But when I insert a signature using the composer's toolbar, I always get a warning about discarding HTML. What's this about? Finally, I don't understand what is the "HTML Variant" or how it works. What would suit me is very simple: 1. An option to not insert a signature by default. 2. When I insert a signature using the composer's toolbar menu, MailMate inserts it - at my carat, wherever that may be, and - simply as a plain-text string. Regardless if I am composing in markdown or not, just insert the characters in the signature string as though I had typed them or copy-pasted them from a text-editor. Unless I'm doing something wrong, I will need to add something like [Paste](http://pasteapp.me/) to MailMate to transition from Outlook. Tom ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] syntax
When I want to open a specific mailbox, or move to a specific mailbox, a window opens that shows all mailboxes. When I type,for example, CDD, it finds all the mailbox names that include the 3 letters CDD, sometimes separated by extra letters. This is often convenient, but is there a way to force the search for the mailbox that is called « CDD » (or at least with the 3 consecutive letters)? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] remove attachment
Is it possible to remove the attachment of an incoming email? I have been through Help and could not find the info. Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
Thanks for your quick response. Maybe I’ll wait a bit before using it. Alain On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:19, Alain Israel wrote: Is it possible to remove the attachment of an incoming email? I have been through Help and could not find the info. The current public release of MailMate does not have such a feature, but just today I uploaded a test version of MailMate which can do it. You should consider it to be very experimental though. There are no known bugs, but it has not really been in use by anyone yet and the consequences of bugs could potentially be serious (since we are dealing with removing content from emails). You can read more about the test release and how to enable this feature in [this ticket](https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672-mailmate/tickets/260). In short, you get a “Remove Attachment” menu item in the context sensitive menu and you can also assign a key to a new `removeAttachments:` selector. The latter also works when selecting multiple messages. Both variants support undo/redo. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
I guess Gmail does not consider it a duplicate as the attachment is missing Alain On 16 Dec 2016, at 16:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 16 Dec 2016, at 16:23, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: verified… that does seem to be happening. Steps to take; - sent test msg to gmail account with simple attachment - it arrives and is seen in Mailmate, verified in gmail’s web client, in the Inbox - within Mailmate, used new ‘remove attachment’ feature - attachment is successfully removed and there is one copy of the message in Mailmate - returning to gmail in a browser and there is now two copies of the message, one with attachment and one without, both seemingly in the Inbox It's kind of ironic that the result is a duplicate given that Gmail does not like duplicates, but this may be a sign that this is a general problem with “Remove Attachment” in MailMate and not a Gmail issue only. I'll note to try to reproduce the issue. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
(I should also note, for clarity in the discussion, that IMAP does not support removing an attachment from an existing email. The only way to do it is to create a new email without the attachment and then delete the old email.) Important to know A ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] attaching note
I had a relatively unorthodox question : is it possible to somehow attach a short note to an incoming message (such as : wait for missing information, reply when another task is fulfilled,….)? I know I can create a smart mailbox with fancy rules, but I don’t want to create one for each message. Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Trash or Deleted Messages?
I have a related question : I use Mailmate on the Mac, and Spark on the iphone : when I send a message using Spark, a copy goes to a Spark mailbox called Sent, which is different from the « Sent messages » mailbox of Mailmate. The message is not lost on Mailmate as it appears in a separate mailbox appropriately called Sent (which is not one of the obligatory Mailmate mailboxes). How can I reconcile these 2 conflicting behaviors, knowing that the Maimate mailbox « Sent Messages » does not exist in Spark? Alain On 23 Jan 2017, at 12:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 20 Jan 2017, at 21:01, Roger Bohn wrote: In my version of MailMate, “Trash” is not an option. There are 5 mailbox types, one of which is “Deleted Messages.” Similarly, I have a mailbox called “Deleted Messages” right below Junk. I do not have a mailbox called “Trash”. I’m using an Exchange Server. Am I supposed to change everything to “Trash?” Each IMAP account can have 1 mailbox assigned to be used for trash (deleted messages). This is done using “Mailbox ▸ Mailbox Type”. The universal mailbox always snamed “Deleted Messages” under MAILBOXES in the mailbox unifies the messages of all mailboxes assigned to be used for trash in each account. If you have multiple mailboxes used as trash in an account then you need to identify the primary one. This is most often the one used by webmail access if that exists. If not then you might be free to choose any mailbox. Then delete any other mailboxes used for trash (maybe move the emails to the primary one first if you like). Let me know if that was not clear. While on the subject of Trash, how do I configure Deleted Messages to automatically flush messages after, say, 10 days? Right now I have to do a manual select+flush when I remember. I have experimented with my folder, but not found a solution. The “Deleted Messages” mailbox actually has an “Empty...” menu item to make this easier (that'll flush all trash-assigned mailboxes of all accounts). There's no built-in way to flush it automatically and I don't think setting up a smart mailbox for it works, because there's currently no “Delete Permanently” rule action. (I've been hesitating making any features which involves deleting anything automatically, because it also opens up the possibility of bugs with serious consequences, but it might soon be time to at least add the rule action needed for a smart mailbox.) Note that some IMAP servers might actually do this for you or have a configuration to do so. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Trash or Deleted Messages?
Thanks, I’ll try to sort these mailboxes, and eliminate duplicates (in addition I have some called Sent, some Envoyés (french for Sent), in brief there are far too many). Alain On 23 Jan 2017, at 13:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 23 Jan 2017, at 13:11, Alain Israel wrote: I have a related question : I use Mailmate on the Mac, and Spark on the iphone : when I send a message using Spark, a copy goes to a Spark mailbox called Sent, which is different from the « Sent messages » mailbox of Mailmate. The message is not lost on Mailmate as it appears in a separate mailbox appropriately called Sent (which is not one of the obligatory Mailmate mailboxes). How can I reconcile these 2 conflicting behaviors, knowing that the Maimate mailbox « Sent Messages » does not exist in Spark? Select the “Sent” mailbox within the IMAP account (under SOURCES) and give it the “Sent Messages” mailbox type. Then move all emails from the old mailbox used for sent messages in MailMate to Sent instead. Finally, delete the now empty and unused mailbox for sent messages in the account. I'll try to re-iterate: MailMate does not require any particular mailbox to be used for sent messages (or any of the other standard mailboxes). **If** the server or some other email client enforces the use of some specific mailbox then MailMate can be told to use the same one. It's naturally a problem if the server and some email client enforces two different choices and neither is configurable, but there's nothing MailMate can do about that. I hope that makes it a bit clearer :) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] automatize forwarding
Is there a way to automatize forwarding an incoming mail to the same person (my assistant)? It’s not big deal as I only have to type cmd-shift-F and the first letters of her name, but at the end of the day it may save me a lot of time. Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] automatize forwarding
Thank you. The tag solution is better, as I want to be able to select the messages to be forwarded to my assistant. Alain On 31 Jan 2017, at 14:47, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 26 Jan 2017, at 11:15, Alain Israel wrote: Is there a way to automatize forwarding an incoming mail to the same person (my assistant)? It’s not big deal as I only have to type cmd-shift-F and the first letters of her name, but at the end of the day it may save me a lot of time. Click on “Inbox” and then select “Mailbox ▸ Edit Mailbox”. Switch to the Rules pane and add a rule. You can add conditions if you like, but the action should be to “Redirect” emails to your assistant. Redirecting is better if your assistant needs to reply to the emails. A better solution might be to use a special tag for redirected emails. You can make a smart mailbox with the same rule which only matches the tagged emails. That way you can tag (or maybe just flag if you don't use that for other purposes) and then it's automatically redirected to your assistant while you can also easily see the emails you have redirected. (If you forward/redirect all emails then it would be better if it could be handled server side -- or your assistant simply had direct access to your email account such that you could also easily see what has already been handled.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Tags not stored with IMAP?
FWIW, tags are not maintained when using an Exchange-based server. Previous comment from Benny : *Good question and unfortunately not easily answered. I would claim that tags as implemented in MailMate is the best way to do it with IMAP servers. It is based on so-called IMAP keywords and some servers do not support this very well, but this is typically servers which have all kinds of other issues anyways. The most notable example is Exchange IMAP. (Tags work fine with Gmail.) Some servers have an upper limit on the number of IMAP keywords available. In general, I don't recommend using a large number of tags.* Alain On 3 Feb 2017, at 11:17, Jan Erik Moström wrote: On 2 Feb 2017, at 18:30, John Cooper wrote: I'm surprised to find that the tags I apply on my main computer aren't attached to the same messages on my secondary computer; they appear to be machine-specific. I take it that tags aren't supported by the IMAP standard? They are stored on the server, at least on the servers I'm using. But remember that you have to "connect" the "Display Name"/Icon with the IMAP Keyword on each computer (the "Tags" preference pane). - jem ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] IMAP problem UIDVALIDITY
When I arrived this morning, I got the following message (below), and all my mailboxes were offline. I pressed « always resynchronize » and everything resumed, albeit quite slowly. Is this diagnostic of something specific (it is the first time it occurs in about a year)? IMAP problem for "Pasteur" account The so-called UIDVALIDITY value of the mailbox " attente reponse" has changed. MaiiMate has to resynchronize the mailbox, that is, purge the local cache and refetch the messages of the mailbox. If this happens often then you should investigate the issue. Refetching messages is a very inefficient action. Note: The option to "Always Resynchronize" only works until MailMate is relaunched. Resynchronize - Always Resynchronize - Retry Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] IMAP problem UIDVALIDITY
OK, thank you. I did not happen since last time. To put the mailboxes online again, does it make a difference if I press Resynchronize, or Always resynchronize? (Retry did not do any good). Alain On 23 Feb 2017, at 15:17, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 22 Feb 2017, at 19:04, Alain Israel wrote: When I arrived this morning, I got the following message (below), and all my mailboxes were offline. I pressed « always resynchronize » and everything resumed, albeit quite slowly. Is this diagnostic of something specific (it is the first time it occurs in about a year)? The UIDVALIDITY value for an IMAP mailbox is what an email client uses to determine if a mailbox is still the same mailbox. The name is not sufficient, because another email client might have deleted a mailbox and then created a new one with the same name. This could lead to an incorrect mapping between local emails and server emails. Therefore, a changed UIDVALIDITY value for a mailbox signals that the email client should forget everything about the mailbox and re-synchronize it. It's the only safe option. I cannot tell you why this happened, but if it happens on a regular basis then we can debug to make sure that MailMate does not behave incorrectly (I doubt it since if it did then it would likely happen very often). Some IMAP servers are pretty buggy regarding the UIDVALIDITY value, but there's not much MailMate can do about that. Resynchronize - Always Resynchronize - Retry The “Always Resynchronize” button was implemented to help out with such buggy servers. I won't recommend using it in general and the setting is forgotten as soon as MailMate is relaunched. (One could imagine a server which deletes certain empty IMAP mailboxes. This could trigger new UIDVALIDITY values on a regular basis, but in this case it's not really doing any harm.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] the labels from SAVE and PREVIEW are gone
For me the buttons are greyed, but still active. Alain On 27 Feb 2017, at 16:07, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 25 Feb 2017, at 18:36, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: On 25 Feb 2017, at 16:49, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 25 Feb 2017, at 13:35, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: I've just seen that the labels from the SAVE- and PREVIEW-buttons of the attachments are not there anymore. I'm not seeing it myself. Does it happen for all emails with attachments or only some of them? All emails with non-inline attachments. Another user also confirmed seeing this issue (but the message was too big for this list). I'm not sure how to debug it though. Could you try an older release to see if the problem was recently introduced: http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ Which OS version are you using? -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Always Bcc self?
it is possible because I have it working, but unfortunately I forgot how I did that. But someone else will certainly remember. Alain On 4 Apr 2017, at 15:51, David Ledger wrote: It there a way to always Bcc or Cc yourself or another address? Working with a committee using email I keep forgetting to include myself so that threads are complete. David ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Exchange server
Mailmate works with Exchange, this is the configuraton I am using (except for the IMAP keywords). But I use port 993 (and 587 for SMTP). Alain On 10 May 2017, at 16:59, Robert Brenstein wrote: I have been trying to connect to the new server of my client and kept failing. Today, I finally got a response from their support which states: *IMAP does not work with our Exchange server as the ports in question are locked down on our firewall for security reasons.* *The only way to connect to the Exchange server is by using the Exchange option in email clients and port 443.* As far as I recall, MailMate does not support Exchange. Is there a trick or am I stuck using web browser to access their mails? Robert ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] moving message
When one moves a message to a given mailbox (using alt-cmd-T, or whatever shortcut), is there a way to have the destination mailbox to open automatically (but not necessarily everytime, only when required) once the message has moved? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] back to Inbox
Is there a shortcut that allows to move (back) to the Inbox without typing a few strokes, or clicking on an icon (which is inelegant)? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] search
Once I have typed a word in the Search field (cmd-alt-F), how can I get rid of it without having to mouse to the very small squared « -« sign (top right of the window) : is there a keyboard shortcut, or can I design one? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] search
Simple indeed, once you know. Thank you. Alain On 26 Oct 2017, at 18:42, John Rakestraw wrote: On 26 Oct 2017, at 12:37, Alain Israel wrote: Once I have typed a word in the Search field (cmd-alt-F), how can I get rid of it without having to mouse to the very small squared « -« sign (top right of the window) : is there a keyboard shortcut, or can I design one? Press . --John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] delete message in Inbox, jumps to previous
As of today, for no obvious reason, when I delete a message in the Inbox window, the cursor moves to the previous (upstream; messages are sorted by date) message. Before it used to move to the next (downstream) message, and this is what still happens in the other mailboxes (although I did not check them all). Any reason why this has changed? More importantly, how to get back to the previous, more logical, behavior? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] one app, 2 computers
I am using Mailmate on 2 computers, and there are 3 things I try to sync between the 2 computers : - flags : it works but only for the default color (red for me), the other colors turn to red. Better than nothing, but could be improved. - tags : my understanding is that because my server is of the Exchange type, it will never work, except for the standard imap keywords (Seen/answered/flagged…) - smart mailboxes : apparently the smart mailboxes in the Mail app can sync using icloud, but since I am using neither Mail nor icloud, is there a way to transfer these mailboxes (using a dropbox-like procedure, or just by transferring a file or folder by hand, which would help me to some extent). BTW, where is the relevant information stored on the computer (if it is,and if accessible)? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one app, 2 computers
Thanks, I’ll try the smart mailbox trick (or treat…). Regarding flags, is there a file I can transfer that would also do the trick? Alain On 3 Nov 2017, at 10:46, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 3 Nov 2017, at 10:39, Alain Israel wrote: I am using Mailmate on 2 computers, and there are 3 things I try to sync between the 2 computers : - flags : it works but only for the default color (red for me), the other colors turn to red. Better than nothing, but could be improved. This is the same problem as for tags. Exchange only supports `\Flagged` and does not synchronize the `$MailFlagBitX` keywords needed for the colors (which is an Apple Mail feature MailMate also supports). - tags : my understanding is that because my server is of the Exchange type, it will never work, except for the standard imap keywords (Seen/answered/flagged…) Correct. - smart mailboxes : apparently the smart mailboxes in the Mail app can sync using icloud, but since I am using neither Mail nor icloud, is there a way to transfer these mailboxes (using a dropbox-like procedure, or just by transferring a file or folder by hand, which would help me to some extent). BTW, where is the relevant information stored on the computer (if it is,and if accessible)? When MailMate is not running then it's possible to copy the following file: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Mailboxes.plist It's not possible/safe to “synchronize” it using, e.g., a Dropbox file. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one app, 2 computers
Thanks, nothing is apparently designed to deal with Exchange. Means I just have to move to another research institute where they don’t use Exchange. Alain On 3 Nov 2017, at 11:01, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 3 Nov 2017, at 10:57, Alain Israel wrote: Regarding flags, is there a file I can transfer that would also do the trick? No, that's somewhat hardcoded in MailMate. You'll also lose the color of the flags if the MailMate database is lost/corrupted. It wasn't really designed with something like Exchange in mind. I'm sorry I don't have a better answer for you. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one app, 2 computers
I am afraid the IT director here will not allow me to transfer my mails to another account (especially Gmail), for security/confidentiality reasons. Alain On 3 Nov 2017, at 17:30, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 3 Nov 2017, at 11:48, Alain Israel wrote: Thanks, nothing is apparently designed to deal with Exchange. Means I just have to move to another research institute where they don’t use Exchange. Alternatively, you can setup the account to forward everything to a different IMAP account. Preferably something based on the Dovecot IMAP server, but Gmail also works. In MailMate, you can still use the Exchange SMTP server and your Exchange account email address. This means that your correspondents won't see any difference. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] opening thread
Is it possible to expand a single thread without having to point the mouse to the tiny triangle (and without using the *Organize by thread* command)? Alain___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Force compose in tab
On 16 Feb 2018, at 9:38, Ian Petersen wrote: Is it possible to force Mailmate compose messages in tabs instead of a separate window ? Hmm, my mailmate always opens the compose window in a tab - which I find rather annoying actually. I’ve discovered that it opens the compose window in a tab when the application is full screen, but it opens in a separate window if the app is not full screen. Note the “Prefer tabs...” setting in the Dock pane of the System Preferences. -- Benny I have this setting ON (in the Finder preferences; in the System preferences, there does not seem to be a Prefer tabs setting in the Dock pane), but the new messages still open in a separate window. Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] inconsistencies with keyboard text shortcuts
I use xType (which is free), and it works OK. Alain On 20 Jul 2018, at 2:23, davecc wrote: I use Keyboard Maestro for all the macros including custom auto-fill text. Dave Interesting. I hadn’t considered using Alfred (which I have) for my snippets. I’ll give it a try, thanks. Peter Borsella, President Winnow Management PO Box 1046 Pompano Beach, FL 33061 Office: 954-784-3674 Mobile: 954-253-3761 Fax:954-301-5829 @pborsella Now available, Certified ScrumMaster for Industry! Click here for our full class schedule and early registration pricing! CONFIDENTIALITY: This email and any associated files contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify the sender and delete this email from your system. On 19 Jul 2018, at 18:31, pleasespa...@posteo.net wrote: I haven’t had issues with text expansion in MailMate. I use Alfred for my snippets. On 19 Jul 2018, at 18:23, Peter Borsella wrote: Hello, All, I use the shortcut feature that allows me to type a few letters while composing and the system then converts that to the predetermined text I’ve setup in the “keyboard” settings. I use four ellipses () to auto-populate my closing text at the bottom of an email. Sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn’t. Is this a MailMate inconsistency, or a MacOS inconsistency? Since it’s failure is sporadic and I only use the ellipses in MailMate it’s difficult to test this on other apps. I’d appreciate hearing if anyone else has experienced this. Thanks! ...Peter Peter Borsella, President Winnow Management PO Box 1046 Pompano Beach, FL 33061 Office: 954-784-3674 Mobile: 954-253-3761 Fax: 954-301-5829 @pborsella Now available, Certified ScrumMaster for Industry! Head to our website for our full class schedule and early registration pricing! http://www.winnowmanagement.com CONFIDENTIALITY: This email and any associated files contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify the sender and delete this email from your system. mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] replying and including attachment from source message
one possibility, not very elegant I must admit : press reply, then drag the message into the text area. The message becomes attached together with its original attachment, and there is uncluttered space to type your response. Alain On 28 Aug 2018, at 16:32, Eric Sharakan wrote: Changing the subject prefix and copying/pasting addresses are both doable, but the message will still not be marked as a reply, i.e. it won't have the proper in-reply-to header like so: ``` In-Reply-To: ``` This would prevent the message from being treated as part of the same thread. If we're talking about a workaround, I'd prefer one where I could use reply, and then somehow manually copy the message attachment(s) from the original to the reply, but I don't know if that's possible either. So I'm requesting more direct support for this feature. IIRC, Mail.app has a menu item to allow you to include attachments from the original into the reply. That would be enough for me. Thanks. -Eric On 28 Aug 2018, at 5:41, Robert Brenstein wrote: You can replace Fwd with Re manually and copy paste the address from the email below. Yes, it is a workabout. A proper solution would require Benny to program additional functionality I guess. On 28 Aug 2018, at 4:48, Eric Sharakan wrote: Yes I suppose forwarding would work, but it's far from ideal. I'd need to fill in the addressees manually, and I suspect such a message is not marked as a reply, which means it would break things like searching by thread. -Eric On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:48 PM Robert Brenstein < mailm...@learning-insights.eu> wrote: forward? On 28 Aug 2018, at 0:48, Eric Sharakan wrote: Apologies if this has been asked before, but I want to reply to a message, and have that reply include the from the original message attachment (which is another email message). How can I do that? Thanks. -Eric ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] 'Send' via keyboard?
I use Command-E, but without Keyboard Maestro, using Preferences-Keyboard-Shortcuts (assuming this is the way it translates in english). Alain On 9 Jan 2019, at 17:21, davecc wrote: On Jan 9, 2019, at 7:16 AM, Bill Cole wrote: On 9 Jan 2019, at 9:37, Jason Davies wrote: Sorry about the 'command E' thing - I must have remapped that years ago, it's probably what Mailsmith did in 2002 and became a habit;) FWIW: cmd-E was almost universal for "Send" in the earliest Mac email and email-like clients. FirstClass, Eudora, Compuserve Navigator, and the Mac AOL client all used it. Eudora used Cmd-dash (minus sign) for send. I’ve replicated that hot key using macros (currently with Keyboard Maestro) in all email clients since. Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] IMAP keywords, misusage
I am using Mailmate on different computers, and as I work with an Exchange server, the tags are not maintained from one computer to the other. I was thinking of using one (just one) of the « generic » IMAP keywords to specifically tag certain messages (messages for which I haven’t received an answer yet, but the purpose of this tag is irrelevant), and keep this info on my 2 computers. However I wanted to avoid any IMAP keyword that would automatically tag zillions of mails, but identify, if possible, one keyword that would be attached by the user only. I thought I had the choice between *MDNSent* (not quite sure what it is normally used for), *Important* (not sure this one actually exists), *NotJunk* and *Flagged* (although it may automatically tag all the mails I have already flagged). Does it make any sense? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] colored mails
I succeeded in coloring emails based on their associated IMAP keyword, as described in the Hidden preferences. Is there a way to color them based on the address of the sender (or of the recipient)? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Exchange
Same for me, Mailmate wors fine with Exchange (potential caveat , there are multiple Exchange versions), except for handling the keywords. I have never heard of Exchange that does not support imap/smtp, neither forwarding. But I am not an expert. Alain On 22 Jan 2019, at 13:14, Laurent Michel wrote: Euh… I’m a little surprised. I have mail mate setup against outlook.office365.com as an IMAP server and it works fine. -- Laurent On 22 Jan 2019, at 1:28, chairep...@mailbox.org wrote: Bad news. I have to use exchange to handle my work emails. I would rather use mailmate but mailmate doesn’t support exchange. That’s too bad. I’ve tried davmail to get mailmate handle it but with no success. The exchange server doesn't support neither imap nor smtp. Forwarding mails isn’t allowed as well. What should I do now? It seems that I have to switch back to Apple mail :( ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freron.com%2Flistinfo%2Fmailmate&data=02%7C01%7Claurent.michel%40uconn.edu%7C114a9641eed748f5c5e508d68032e0e4%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C636837353354989285&sdata=vOW0kSMcXb0YF9X1iqyFnUsW6ycRK6wIGtwI0yVw%2FXI%3D&reserved=0 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Links to email messages
I use Wunderlist as a task manager : is there a procedure to link a task to an email (for example something similar to the Todoist bundle, or another approach)? Alain On 31 Jan 2019, at 18:03, Chaim Kram wrote: On 31 Jan 2019, at 17:37, John Cooper wrote: Florian Heidenreich wrote (at 2:23 on 31 Jan 2019): I’m often keeping track of specific conversations by creating a link to a specific email in another program by dragging the email to this program. This is meant as a general question, and not something for Florian alone to answer: would you describe a situation in which you use this kind of link? Sure: I use this feature fairly often to drag email references into BusyCal appointments. Then I’m just a click away from seeing the original email that is topically connected to the appointment. -- Chaim Kram cha...@umich.edu ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Links to email messages
thanks. I’ll check that out (or switch to Todoist). Alain On 1 Feb 2019, at 15:59, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 31 Jan 2019, at 18:13, Alain Israel wrote: I use Wunderlist as a task manager : is there a procedure to link a task to an email (for example something similar to the Todoist bundle, or another approach)? If the question is if a bundle exists then the answer is no. But a bundle could be created depending on what Wunderlist supports. The simple way to state this is that if you can add a task to Wunderlist using a Terminal command line then a bundle could also be created. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] sticky mail
Problem is that in the other apps/clients, only the real message
appears. The warning message only appears in Mailmate, suggesting it is
a Mailmate-specific problem.
Alain
On 21 May 2019, at 4:24, Eric Sharakan wrote:
Did you try moving/deleting the message using your other client or web
app? I'm not familiar with Outlook, but when I had a similar problem
with MM being unable to download some of my work email (due to
database corruption on the server side), the only way to deal with it
was using the provided corporate web app.
HTH.
-Eric
On 19 May 2019, at 7:06, aisrael wrote:
For the first time in years I received the following message :
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The server couldn't retrieve the following message:
Subject: "Re: nominations CA"
From: “XXX” ("/O=PASTEUR/OU=EXCHANGE ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP
(FYDIBOHF23SPDLT)/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=9FB41DEFD0474B938810060C27A2D1D1-CBUCH")
Sent date: 17/05/2019 20:26:13
The message hasn't been deleted. You might be able to view it using
either Outlook or Outlook Web App. You can also contact the sender to
find out what the message says.
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The subject was : *Retrieval using the IMAP4 protocol failed for the
following message: 192930*
I usually receive hundreds of messages from the same sender, with no
problem.
This is not a major problem as I retrieved the message using a
different app, but unexpectedly the warning message cannot be
deleted, nor moved to any mailbox. Does anyone know how I can I get
rid of it?
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Re: [MlMt] command-click
Yes I see the same, and I am also runnning El Capitan. But as I never tried to use cmd-click before, I can’t conclude it has changed. Alain On 28 May 2019, at 19:43, Robert Brenstein wrote: I should have mentioned that I am running El Capitan. On 28 May 2019, at 19:13, Eric Sharakan wrote: Hi Robert, this works fine for me in r5635 (running macOS 10.14.5 and with Safari as my default browser). In fact, I didn't even know about using Cmd-click to open links in the background; so thanks for the tip! -Eric On 28 May 2019, at 13:01, Robert Brenstein wrote: I just upgraded to MM version 1.12.5 (5635). Since then the command-click on a link switches to the browser window right away, that is no longer opens the link in the background. In other words, there is no difference between click and command-click Can anyone confirm that? Robert___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] move and open
thanks, I am working on it, but so far without success. Alain On 11 Jun 2019, at 5:30, leo wrote: I can’t think of a direct way - maybe you could do it with a new [Bundle](https://github.com/mailmate)? On 8 Jun 2019, at 22:31, aisrael wrote: Is there a possibility, when you move a message to a mailbox, to open that mailbox automatically at the same time? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] move and open
Is there a possibility, when you move a message to a mailbox, to open that mailbox automatically at the same time? How are you moving the message? Drag'n'drop, the “Move to Mailbox” interface, and/or explicit actions like “Move to Archive”? « Move to mail box » (very handy). I suspect the order of appearance is the most recently opened? Can it be modified? Are you looking for a general option to always do this? (Which I think would be annoying most of the time.) Not general, although it would probably be easier to implement. I guess I'm asking, what is your use case? Maybe there's something which would work better for you. I'm thinking it might be better to think of it as two separate actions. No matter how you have moved the message, MailMate could have some kind of “Go to Mailbox of Most Recently Moved Message” shortcut to help you get to that location? (Preferably phrased in a more succinct manner.) Currently I use »move to mailbox », then « go to (*same*) mailbox », which is a bit redundant, despite the fact that I have keyboard shortcuts for each. Anything that would streamline this would be appreciated. Or maybe “Go to Mailbox” (⌘T) should, maybe optionally, always default to the location of the moved-to mailbox if that was the most recent action. Is this feasible? Just thinking out loud... I can’t think of a direct way - maybe you could do it with a new [Bundle](https://github.com/mailmate)? thanks, I am working on it, but so far without success. I only think you could do that if you were using a key binding to move to a specific mailbox. In fact I don’t, as I have too many mailboxes. But I am curious : how can you define a key binding to move to a specific mailbox? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Suggested way to quickly find all messages to and from given email adress?
This « Search » button seems by default to search within the current mailbox (if I am correct). Is it possible to have it search by default in « All messages »? The Search box can be made to search « All message subparts », but then you don’t have all the options of the Search button. To be honest I am not sure I use correctly these 2 ways of searching (Search button and Search box). I attach a screenshot of my configuration. Alain Finally, you could modify the default behavior of the "Search" toolbar button instead. Click that and you get a search bar where you can set up any sort of search you like, e.g. "Any Address contains" with an empty search value. To make that search the default, use the menu command Edit->Find->Use As Default Search. The next time you click the Search toolbar button, the search bar will come up with the search you set. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Suggested way to quickly find all messages to and from given email adress?
Indeed, and sorry for forgetting about that. Instead of trying to hit a tiny triangle, especially when you are a keyboard-centric Maimate user, can the default mailbox be defined by a shortcut (toggling between current and All)? Alain On 21 Jul 2019, at 17:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 15 Jul 2019, at 11:25, Alain Israel wrote: This « Search » button seems by default to search within the current mailbox (if I am correct). Is it possible to have it search by default in « All messages »? “All Messages” should be the default but you might have changed it at some point. It is configured in the menu opened when clicking at the left end of the toolbar search field. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] move and open
Thanks Benny, you are right, I don’t want to *always* go to that mailbox. I realise that if this becomes the default behavior, it won’t be ideal either. In fact what I would need are 2 separate shortcuts to move messages : one that works as currently, and a second one that opens the mailbox used to move my message. Since no other user seems to be fascinated by my request, please just forget about it, I guess you have more important modifications to implement. However I will implement your final suggestion to at least improve the behavior for my most frequently used mailboxes. Alain On 21 Jul 2019, at 14:17, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 24 Jun 2019, at 18:13, Alain Israel wrote: « Move to mail box » (very handy). I suspect the order of appearance is the most recently opened? Can it be modified? No, but MailMate learns any abbreviation you might use to get to a specific mailbox. In other words, MailMate can “learn” that “mm” means some “MailMate” IMAP mailbox. Currently I use »move to mailbox », then « go to (*same*) mailbox », which is a bit redundant, despite the fact that I have keyboard shortcuts for each. Anything that would streamline this would be appreciated. But you don't want to *always* go to the mailbox I guess. Or maybe “Go to Mailbox” (⌘T) should, maybe optionally, always default to the location of the moved-to mailbox if that was the most recent action. Is this feasible? Such a feature does not exist, but it could be implemented. MailMate could probably just review the undo-stack to find the information. It could even display the X most recently used mailboxes for “Move to” actions. Would such a feature solve your use case? In most cases you would then need to hit ⌘T followed by enter to go to the mailbox. It seems more flexible since you then control when to do so instead of being forced after every move. It should, possibly, even be default behavior. In fact I don’t, as I have too many mailboxes. But I am curious : how can you define a key binding to move to a specific mailbox? Select the mailbox in MailMate and use ⌘C to puts its identifier on the pasteboard. Then create a key binding like this: "m" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "identitifer" ); You can also move relative to the IMAP account of the selected message: g = ( "moveToMailbox:", "/Special"); That would move an email to a mailbox named “Special” in the same account as the email. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] iOS
A question not directly related to Mailmate (not on politics either) : I would be curious to know which mail app you use (or recommand) on iphone and ipad? Does any of them share some of the advantages of Mailmate? If this has been discussed before, just let me know. Alain PS : I currently use Preside,which is so customizable that you tend to get lost in the zillions of options available. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] sync bug
This weekend when I launched Mailmate, I got the following warning (attached). All my mailboxes (and I have a great number) got desynchronized, and take forever (and even more) to resynchronize (and I suspect I will get the same problem the next time I launch Mailmate). What is the best solution to solve the problem? Reinstall Mailmate? Anything else? My other mail clients seem to work OK. Importantly, the same problem happened when I opened Mailmate on 2 different computers. Alain Mailmate 3.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] sync bug
Dear Bill, thank you for the explanations. This weekend when I launched Mailmate, I got the following warning (attached). All my mailboxes (and I have a great number) got desynchronized, and take forever (and even more) to resynchronize (and I suspect I will get the same problem the next time I launch Mailmate). Probably not. In fact I experienced the same problem each time I relaunch Mailmate, or restart the computer, which sounds weird I agree. In fact what possibly happens is that each time I restart, a new mailbox send me an error message (I did not follow carefully which mailbox sends me an error message), and that will last until all mailboxes are synced again. Hopefully once re-synced, they will remain so. UIDVALIDITY is a tag used by an IMAP server to alert clients when the UID values for messages in a mailbox may have changed. Nothing a client like MM does can cause a mailbox's UIDVALIDITY value to change and when that value changes there is no reliable strategy for a client other than to fully resynch the mailbox. The most common reason for UIDVALIDITY to change is if a server has had some sort of failure that required a rebuild of mailboxes. For Exchange servers, it also is rumored to happen whenever the mail admin sneezes. My server is indeed Exchange-based, but there is nothing I can do about it. I finally did not reinstall Mailmate, and I am just waiting for every mailbox to re-sync. Since I have more than 400 (exported from a previous email client), it takes forever. It seems I have to open a mailbox to force it to sync; Would there be a way to re-sync all my mailboxes with a single instruction? Alain What is the best solution to solve the problem? Reinstall Mailmate? Anything else? No, do not reinstall MailMate. MailMate didn't cause this and cannot prevent it. My other mail clients seem to work OK. Importantly, the same problem happened when I opened Mailmate on 2 different computers. Any IMAP client that maintains a persistent local cache of messages MUST invalidate that cache when the UIDVALIDITY value of a mailbox changes from what the client last saw. Some clients do not maintain such a cache and many that do won't bother alerting the user when they need to do a full resynch. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] sync bug
Follow up : what happens is that what I do in Mailmate no longer seems to be reflected on the server (as far as I understand) : if I delete or move a message in mailmate, it is not deleted nor moved when I open another mail client (Outlook on the Mac, or Preside on my iphone). How is that possible, and how can it be corrected? Alain Dear Bill, thank you for the explanations. This weekend when I launched Mailmate, I got the following warning (attached). All my mailboxes (and I have a great number) got desynchronized, and take forever (and even more) to resynchronize (and I suspect I will get the same problem the next time I launch Mailmate). Probably not. In fact I experienced the same problem each time I relaunch Mailmate, or restart the computer, which sounds weird I agree. In fact what possibly happens is that each time I restart, a new mailbox send me an error message (I did not follow carefully which mailbox sends me an error message), and that will last until all mailboxes are synced again. Hopefully once re-synced, they will remain so. UIDVALIDITY is a tag used by an IMAP server to alert clients when the UID values for messages in a mailbox may have changed. Nothing a client like MM does can cause a mailbox's UIDVALIDITY value to change and when that value changes there is no reliable strategy for a client other than to fully resynch the mailbox. The most common reason for UIDVALIDITY to change is if a server has had some sort of failure that required a rebuild of mailboxes. For Exchange servers, it also is rumored to happen whenever the mail admin sneezes. My server is indeed Exchange-based, but there is nothing I can do about it. I finally did not reinstall Mailmate, and I am just waiting for every mailbox to re-sync. Since I have more than 400 (exported from a previous email client), it takes forever. It seems I have to open a mailbox to force it to sync; Would there be a way to re-sync all my mailboxes with a single instruction? Alain What is the best solution to solve the problem? Reinstall Mailmate? Anything else? No, do not reinstall MailMate. MailMate didn't cause this and cannot prevent it. My other mail clients seem to work OK. Importantly, the same problem happened when I opened Mailmate on 2 different computers. Any IMAP client that maintains a persistent local cache of messages MUST invalidate that cache when the UIDVALIDITY value of a mailbox changes from what the client last saw. Some clients do not maintain such a cache and many that do won't bother alerting the user when they need to do a full resynch. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Shortcut for "Recent Searches" in Toolbar Search
it also takes me to the next message. Weird…. Alain On 8 Jan 2020, at 19:19, Bill Cole wrote: On 7 Jan 2020, at 18:54, Williper Larnloge wrote: On 6 Jan 2020, at 15:59, Bill Cole wrote: CMD-Down when the search box is active works for me That takes me to the next message. Even when the search box is active? i.e. when it has a blinking cursor in it. Odd. If I do Cmd-Opt-F then Cmd-Down I get the recent list. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] sync problems
I am currently using Mailmate (1.13.2) on 2 computers. When I delete emails from the Inbox on one (or move these emails into another maibox), then turn the computer off, and turn on the second one, a large number of « deleted » emails are still present in the Inbox (same for the « moved » emails). I am not sure whether this happens for all treated emails, or just some of them. Is this a (known?) problem due to the server, the app, something else? Alain PS : this also happens with Preside on the iPhone : « deleted » emails are still present. However I am not sure it touches the same emails on the Mac and the iPhone. PPS : my server is of the Exchange type PPPS : I just opened Mail, and I have the same problem.So it seems unrelated to Mailmate. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] English grammar correction
I am french so I won’t argue, but it can be found in the Cambridge dictionary, as a US informal version of anyway (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/fr/dictionnaire/anglais/anyways). Alain On 8 Oct 2020, at 13:35, mailm...@ivdcs.co.uk wrote: On 2020-10-08 12:06, Ken Pope wrote: You can turn that warning off in user preferences (composer tab). I personally find it useful. The warning is useful, the complaint is about the "MTV" style of language: __anyways__ is not a generally recognised conjunction (I think that's the part of speech here). A minority view: I like the informality. The adverb “always” is accepted as informal English. If formal English is required, “Send anyways?” would need to be rephrased as a complete sentence. Anyways, just my $.02. :) As an English person in England 'anyways' isn't a word of any sort. Never heard it used here. Vaguely remember hearing it in American TV shows. It may have been in use in England before America was so named. David ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mark an email as read based on content
And you can also forward it as an attachment, which I find less “messy” than a regular Forward. Alain On 31 Oct 2024 at 03:05:33 CET, leo wrote: > Hello fellow MailMaters > > How can I “forward” an email without quoting it? I.e. I want something like > a redirect, but with free email address choice. > > Many thanks for any pointers! > Leo > ___ > mailmate mailing list > Unsubscribe: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!oFfOGd8ZrxZ128wK3ZNqo8j6_fjapQ8ZrknhjVJ4kX4g08okscVUuioNCdXCJds-65U_AmqdbtKhR021NOpPAkWsu8M$ ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] masked icloud email address
Customize works ok, but the SMTP server refuses to send from this email address (which I somehow anticipated). Too bad. Alain On 7 Dec 2024 at 19:03:51 CET, Bill Cole wrote: > On 2024-12-07 at 11:50:28 UTC-0500 (Sat, 7 Dec 2024 17:50:28 +0100) > aisrael > is rumored to have said: > > > I am trying to use iCloud-based masked email addresses to hide my > > actual email address when “talking” to some web services : I have > > 2 questions : 1) how can I send mails from this new address using > > Mailmate (the From item seems to be limited to the address of my 2 > > accounts) 2) (not Mailmate-related) can I use this strategy to replace > > an email address which is different from the email address registered > > to my Apple account? > > When I open a new message, the From field is a pull-down menu with > "Customize" as the last option. Do you not have that? > > > -- > Bill Cole > b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org > (AKA @grumpybozo@toad.social and many *@billmail.scconsult.com > addresses) > Not Currently Available For Hire > > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > Unsubscribe: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!ozvXAt5dkoSkTaGtluV7dzDI4gG41_T4ovrb8xUJ8QTVDPgMnD6SmezNLzKTp2jDnip59aRQ7YOwj9w7aiR5qHzG6xPW2Xi_DSb9F9bQ$ ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
