Re: [MlMt] BUG: Option "Sign & Encrypt if ..." not triggered for partly decrypted message.
Robert, Have you checked the Serurity Tab in the preferences ? Mfg, Marc On 5 Jan 2017, at 15:34, Robert M. Münch wrote: When I receive partly decrypted messages and reply, the message isn't set to encrypt. IMO this should be the case, as it's better to send an encrypted message by default then an unencrypted (which can be dangerous). -- Robert M. Münch, CEO M: +41 79 65 11 49 6 Saphirion AG smarter | better | faster http://www.saphirion.com http://www.nlpp.ch ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate SIGNATURE TEXT___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] BUG: Option "Sign & Encrypt if ..." not triggered for partly decrypted message.
On 6 Jan 2017, at 9:54, Marc De Roover wrote: > Have you checked the Serurity Tab in the preferences ? Yes, sure. I have those options enabled, hence I assume it's only trigged for "fully encrypted" message but not partial ones. -- Robert M. Münch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Exporting mailboxes
On 3 Jan 2017, at 8:04, Dave C wrote: I selected a mailbox I created and then chose Command>Export>Copy to mbox. The resulting folder in Finder shows an exported mbox file but for just one account. The mailbox I want to export has messages from all my accounts. Why are messages from just one account exported? How to include messages from all accounts in an exported mbox? Currently, the command is only applied to selected messages. Does that explain it? -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] PGP Usage & Untrusted Keys
On 3 Jan 2017, at 13:30, Robert M. Münch wrote: So, using "Trust Once" it seems the mail is send encrypted. But next time, the dialog comes back. I haven't seen any option to either "Trust this key" or a way to tell MM to send emails to untrusted keys as well. Anything I'm missing? Not in MailMate. I haven't implemented any way to “trust this key” permanently from within MailMate. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] PGP Usage & Untrusted Keys
On 3 Jan 2017, at 16:59, Robert M. Münch wrote: On 3 Jan 2017, at 15:45, David Ledger wrote: It also gives a heads-up as to why opening a list message from you makes MailMate become unresponsive for a full two minutes, eventually giving the error: For the record, I do find it embarrassing that his happens on the main thread :) with a ‘Show Details’ button. Clicking that gives NEWSIG ERRSIG E12C4810802DFEF0 1 10 01 1483446639 9 NO_PUBKEY E12C4810802DFEF0 after another two minutes, for the message I’m replying to. Which indicates a time-out. Can you please re-try? The new key upload should already have spread to all the different key-servers. This works for me now. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Export/Import/Sync Mailbox Conditions/Rules, etc.?
On 4 Jan 2017, at 1:02, Jim McCarty wrote: I have a home computer and a work computer where I use MailMate and now that I'm getting more into the awesome customization I can do, I find myself taking work I do on one computer (setting up smart mailboxes, tweaking rules and conditions, etc.) and needing to duplicate that on the other computer so I have a "unified" email experience. Is there a way to move these configurations from one computer to the other? I don't mind doing some manual work like grabbing an xml file, making manual changes to tweak an already established file, or what have you. When MailMate is **not** running then it's safe to move any of the `.plist` files: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/*.plist Some of them need to go together, but if you haven't changed anything account related then it's fine to move the `Mailboxes.plist` file. You should have the same accounts on both computers and they should be configured them in the same way (if the IMAP server allows different usernames, like Gmail, for the same IMAP account then you could run into issues). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Export/Import/Sync Mailbox Conditions/Rules, etc.?
On 4 Jan 2017, at 7:50, Robert M. Münch wrote: Hi, not that I have a solution for you but I just want to "vote" for such an option too. I use a desktop and a laptop and would like to have both setup the same way. One idea might be to do a sym-link for the MM files / directories which goes to a drop-box folder. This does **not** work. If MailMate is running on the destination machine then the changes would simply be ignored, but it wouldn't even work to symlink. I think MailMate would simply overwrite the changes (and destroy the symlink), but it might be worse than that since I haven't tried. However, best if MM would allow to specify where prefs are stored and handles updates to it dynamically while running. Yes, that would be best, but it's not a simple change (at least not for some of the configuration files). Interestingly, an IMAP server could be used for the sharing avoiding the need for a third party sharing service (at the cost of some private/secret MailMate-related IMAP mailbox to store these files). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Export/Import/Sync Mailbox Conditions/Rules, etc.?
On 4 Jan 2017, at 7:43, Jim McCarty wrote: While looking at the [Mailboxes.plist](http://i.imgur.com/7cnz4XJ.png) file, I noticed the actions for the first rule attached to All Messages did not have the same parameters the other rules had ([disc.png](http://i.imgur.com/Ul2cLZD.png) and [paleo.png](http://i.imgur.com/tQKWJxd.png) -- I also verified the same on my other computer). I *have* noticed some messages that should have been caught with the first rule showing up in my Inbox, not Archived. I haven't really tried to figure out that problem, maybe this is a likely cause? I tried adding/removing other actions and viewing the resulting changes in the plist and it looks like the moveMessage type in the first rule loses the mailbox specifier. I'm not sure I could follow what happened here, but it sounds like there might be some bug. If you find something reproducible then send me a description via “Help ▸ Send Feedback”. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] HTLM signatures rendering to "HEX" single line
On 4 Jan 2017, at 14:51, Marc De Roover wrote: We just found out that our signature ( Text + HTML variant ) resolves to a "code", which changes when we type text to the body of the email We presume this to be an undocumented "feature". Can any body confirm this behaviour ? Just to let the mailing list know, I've worked with Marc on this issue off list and it's not resolved yet. Apparently it works correctly in r5310 in case anyone else has the same issue. PS: also just noted that when we create a signature without text part, the signature doesn't appear in the signature drop-down menu An HTML signature should always have a plain text variant, so this is not really a bug although this is not really obvious. SIGNATURE TEXT Interestingly, the plain text signature does work. It's only the generated HTML which does not contain the HTML variant. I think I can see how this happens, but I cannot seem to reproduce it (yet). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] mailmate and daylite
On 4 Jan 2017, at 17:35, Robert Brenstein wrote: Can MailMate be extended to interact with other programs? I see no mention of that anywhere, so I guess not. Is that considered for the future? MailMate has so-called bundles (see the Bundles preferences pane). In addition to that, there is the [`emate`](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/emate) command and an extended [`mailto:`](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/extended_url_scheme) URL scheme. There is little AppleScript support, but the `perform` command can be quite useful. Apparently, I've not documented [that last one](https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg03350.html) :-( The reason I ask is that we are using Daylite as our CRM software and one of its features is a nice integration with Apple Mail, which provides really useful functionality. https://www.marketcircle.com/help/article/Daylite-mail-assistant-DMA/ I've looked into this in the past and it appears to be a huge task to replicate (and far from straightforward). As it is, it seems that we need to use Apple Mail for business mails and MailMate for any other mails. I just noticed that MailMate is not even on the list of mail clients that their system can use for sending mail: https://www.marketcircle.com/help/article/which-email-clients-are-supported-by-daylite/ If you ask them then let them know I'm willing to add whatever they need to make it work. I *think* all they need is the [AppleScript](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/extended_url_scheme) support for creating new messages. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Build smart mailbox based on Gmail categories (Promotions, Social, ...)
On 5 Jan 2017, at 13:24, Torsten Grust wrote: Gmail groups e-mail into categories like Social, Promotions, etc. Is it possible to build smart mailboxes based on this categorization? I am afraid that these Gmail categories are not available in MailMate's condition system [maybe Gmail doesn't expose this information at all] but I would be happy to be proven wrong. Categories are not exposed on IMAP. Quickly googling I found this potential [workaround](https://dylanconlin.svbtle.com/exposing-gmails-categories-to-imap). Let me know if you can get something like that to work. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] BUG: Option "Sign & Encrypt if ..." not triggered for partly decrypted message.
On 5 Jan 2017, at 15:34, Robert M. Münch wrote: When I receive partly decrypted messages and reply, the message isn't set to encrypt. IMO this should be the case, as it's better to send an encrypted message by default then an unencrypted (which can be dangerous). I took a look at the code and I think I did intend it to work like this. Could you send me an example using “Message ▸ Forward as Attachment” (off list). I don't think I need to be able to actually decrypt the message in order to reproduce the issue. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Tagged messages not in "Tagged" mailbox
On 4 Jan 2017, at 22:17, Dave C wrote: The “Tagged” Smart Mailbox that came with the MM install is not showing the messages I tag. The Conditions say simply that messages matching “Tags” “exist” should show in the mailbox. Any idea why this doesn’t work? No. You can try sending me the related plist-files and I'll look for any possible issues: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Tags.plist ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Mailboxes.plist Send them off list (using “Help ▸ Send Feedback). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] smart mailbox flagged
I’d like the smart mailbox “flagged” to show a submailbox for each
flag. Ideally, I’d like to see simply the flag icon as the submailbox
name.
I got as far as
sub mailbox for each unique value of: flags
mailbox name format: ${#flags.flag.#name}
This shows the correct submailboxes but the shown names include all tags
and flags not just the mailflags. The odd part is that the list of tags
in the names does not always include $MailFlagBitX and sometimes
includes more than one.
Note that the default name format is suggested as: ${#flags}
This produces essentially the same submailbox names, just the order of
listed tags is different.
Robert
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[MlMt] Share MailMate between user accounts – app damaged for all but one user
Hi! I’m setting up a new MacBook Air for my family. I’ve installed MailMate in the shared application folder and set it up for the first family member. But when I try to do it for the second person, logging into her account, MacOS’ Finder claims that MailMate is damaged and needs to be downloaded once again. If I switch back to the account where I first set up MailMate, it still works. Two questions, obviously: - What’s going on? - How do I solve the problem? Best regards, Anders___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Extra lines in quoted text
On 6 Jan 2017, at 3:07, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: I’ll send them along. Both have plain text parts with the following header: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The plain text has the correct spacing, though interestingly it doesn’t have the non-breaking space in the html. Ah, then you shouldn't see this issue unless you first select part of the text in the message. This has always been a bit flaky in MailMate. I could at least clean up the extra whitespace. PS I left the reply as MM2 made it. You’ll notice that the original text from me is not double-quoted, even though it should be. This is the same issue. Selecting text doesn't always correctly preserve quoting levels. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Strange Postbox showing up...
On 6 Jan 2017, at 8:53, Robert M. Münch wrote: Since the last MM update (5320) I see Gmail mailboxes in strange places (red). Any idea what this is? These weren't there before. See the Submailboxes pane in the mailbox editor of these mailboxes (“Mailboxes ▸ Edit Smart Mailbox”). And what is the orange mailbox about? I think this can happen if you ever dragged an email into the “[Gmail]” mailbox itself. MailMate then tries to create the mailbox on the server, but this is not possible with Gmail putting it into the failed state. It's not a problem, but you might want to take the mailbox explicitly offline in order to stop MailMate from trying to create the mailbox. And make sure it does not contain any emails. (Children of this mailbox should of course be online.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] attaching note
I had a relatively unorthodox question : is it possible to somehow attach a short note to an incoming message (such as : wait for missing information, reply when another task is fulfilled,….)? I know I can create a smart mailbox with fancy rules, but I don’t want to create one for each message. Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Extra lines in quoted text
Yes, I should have said that I selected text. I do that a lot. John Muccigrosso > Il giorno 06 gen 2017, alle ore 08:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen > ha scritto: > >> On 6 Jan 2017, at 3:07, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: >> >> I’ll send them along. Both have plain text parts with the following header: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> The plain text has the correct spacing, though interestingly it doesn’t have >> the non-breaking space in the html. > > Ah, then you shouldn't see this issue unless you first select part of the > text in the message. This has always been a bit flaky in MailMate. I could at > least clean up the extra whitespace. > >> PS I left the reply as MM2 made it. You’ll notice that the original text >> from me is not double-quoted, even though it should be. > > This is the same issue. Selecting text doesn't always correctly preserve > quoting levels. > > -- > Benny > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Export/Import/Sync Mailbox Conditions/Rules, etc.?
On 6 Jan 2017, at 12:40, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > Yes, that would be best, but it's not a simple change (at least not for some > of the configuration files). Interestingly, an IMAP server could be used for > the sharing avoiding the need for a third party sharing service (at the cost > of some private/secret MailMate-related IMAP mailbox to store these files). That sounds like a real good option for a mail client. -- Robert M. Münch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Can't set MM as default mail client
I now tried several times to set MM as my default mail client. But it fails. When quitting & restarting it, Apple mail is the default again. Same when I click any mailto: references. Apple mail is started instead of MM. Any ideas how to fix this? -- Robert M. Münch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Can't set MM as default mail client
On 6 Jan 2017, at 11:07, Robert M. Münch wrote: I now tried several times to set MM as my default mail client. But it fails. When quitting & restarting it, Apple mail is the default again. Same when I click any mailto: references. Apple mail is started instead of MM. Any ideas how to fix this? I’m not sure what OS version you’re on, or if Apple ever fixed the problem, but you should probably start here… https://blog.freron.com/2015/default-email-client-on-el-capitan/ -- Rob McBroom http://www.skurfer.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] attaching note
Why not just tag messages with an abbreviation for these notes/actions and then create smart mailboxes that filters for those tags? The autocomplete function in MM's tagging works well, so if you plan your tags well it could just be few keystrokes — and I wouldn't call the smart mailbox fancy: Mailbox > New Smart Mailbox > Conditions > 'Tags' / 'is' / [your tag] So, for example, typing 'tmi[enter]' could ~file a message with the tag 'mi' for 'missing info'. Cheers, T On 6 Jan 2017, at 9:54, Alain Israel wrote: I had a relatively unorthodox question : is it possible to somehow attach a short note to an incoming message (such as : wait for missing information, reply when another task is fulfilled,….)? I know I can create a smart mailbox with fancy rules, but I don’t want to create one for each message. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] attaching note
I use MailMate in conjunction with OmniFocus to create notes like these. (Any task manager will do). You can either embed the whole message to just provide a link to the message within OmniFocus, using one of MailMate's bundles. I can then also add due dates, etc. It works well for me. On 6 Jan 2017, at 12:13, Ted Byfield wrote: Why not just tag messages with an abbreviation for these notes/actions and then create smart mailboxes that filters for those tags? The autocomplete function in MM's tagging works well, so if you plan your tags well it could just be few keystrokes — and I wouldn't call the smart mailbox fancy: Mailbox > New Smart Mailbox > Conditions > 'Tags' / 'is' / [your tag] So, for example, typing 'tmi[enter]' could ~file a message with the tag 'mi' for 'missing info'. Cheers, T On 6 Jan 2017, at 9:54, Alain Israel wrote: I had a relatively unorthodox question : is it possible to somehow attach a short note to an incoming message (such as : wait for missing information, reply when another task is fulfilled,….)? I know I can create a smart mailbox with fancy rules, but I don’t want to create one for each message. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] attaching note
I use tags for such things… On 6 Jan 2017, at 15:54, Alain Israel wrote: I had a relatively unorthodox question : is it possible to somehow attach a short note to an incoming message (such as : wait for missing information, reply when another task is fulfilled,….)? I know I can create a smart mailbox with fancy rules, but I don’t want to create one for each message. Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
