[MlMt] Bug

2016-12-29 Thread Dave C

Is this where I describe a bug?

Created a Smart Mailbox. This worked: messages are mirrored into this 
mailbox.


In the same mailbox I created a rule. Closed the mailbox’s details 
pane and noticed that the filter had not done its job. Opened the 
details pane again and the filter was gone.


Behavior was buggy while creating the compound rule: fields were 
disappearing and reappearing.


Version 1.9.6 (5319)

Dave
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[MlMt] "Empty" Smart Mailbox

2016-12-29 Thread Oliver Groschopp

Moin,

how can i create a "Empty" Smart Mailbox like "Examples"? Without "of 
alle following mailboxes"?


Regards from Saxony

Oliver
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Re: [MlMt] # messages in a thread

2016-12-29 Thread David Ledger

(From web archive)

Benny Kjær Nielsen Fri, 09 Dec 2016 04:22:40 -0800

On 8 Dec 2016, at 20:14, Aaron Falk wrote:

Is there a way to display the number of messages in a collapsed thread? 
Sorry if this is a FAQ.


It's not and there's no way to do that.

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If you use ‘Thread Arcs’ you can see how many messages a thread has 
as long as there’s space. What would be really useful would be if the 
unread ‘blobs’ were in a different colour, then we wouldn’t have 
to go ‘down’, ‘down’ ‘down’ until we get to a line with an 
‘unread’ marker - we could go straight to the first unread message.


David   - evaluating MailMate as an alternative to a dying Mail.app
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Re: [MlMt] How to *move* messages out of Inbox (or emulate such a behavior)?

2016-12-29 Thread David Ledger



On 28 Dec 2016, at 18:00, Bill Cole wrote:


On 28 Dec 2016, at 3:43, Dave C wrote:


New user here…

I’ve got the hang of smart folders and the ones I’ve created now 
contain messages from mail lists (I’m subscribed to several).


My goal is to have an Inbox that has none of these mail list messages 
and only contains the remainder of the day’s mail, mostly personal 
mail and junk.


I understand that the purpose of smart folders is to mirror messages 
to those folders without actually moving them. How can I achieve my 
goal of having the Inbox (or maybe another smart folder named 
“MyInbox”?) not contain the messages that are visible in the 
smart folders?


Any suggestions?


Create actual distinct IMAP folders for each mailing list and add 
rules to the INBOX to move list messages to the right folders.


Alternatively, just create one IMAP folder for all the list mail, a 
rule to move all list mail there, and have MM split the display of 
that IMAP folder into subfolders by mailing list.


OR, use your existing list-wise smart folders: add rules to them that 
move all new messages to other IMAP folders, either one per list or 
one for all lists.


OR, create a new smart mailbox whose Mailboxes selection is "All of ( 
INBOX, None of ( all of your mailing lists smart mailboxes ))"


My personal preference is to read most of my messages from the Inbox, 
then move them to where I want to save them. I did this with Eudora by 
having manual-only filters to my regular destination mailboxes. Once 
read (in the Inbox) I would delete if not wanted, trigger a manual 
filter, or drag to where I wanted it. On moving to Mail.app that reduced 
to delete or drag. It looks like I should do better with MailMate, but 
I’m still working on it.


I’m trying a set of Inbox filters that match on the list ID in 
Subject, then on being read, then on being older than one day (to avoid 
messages disappearing before i’m finished). It’s not immediate of 
course, but it may be a step nearer. Sometimes it works but it doesn’t 
always.


David


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[MlMt] Formatting correction feature?

2016-12-29 Thread Dave C

Hi all,
Is there a means to eliminate text wrap? I copied and pasted a block of 
text from a received message into a new one and the wrapping remains. 
I’d like to institute my own formatting. Other than manually deleting 
each Return character, is there a quick way to do this in MM?


Thanks,
Dave
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Re: [MlMt] Bug

2016-12-29 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 29 Dec 2016, at 9:28, Dave C wrote:


Is this where I describe a bug?


Minor bugs are probably better handled by writing me directly or using 
the ticket system (https://freron.com/contact). The mailing list 
messages go out to ~400 people I think and should, preferably, at least 
have some degree of general interest.


Created a Smart Mailbox. This worked: messages are mirrored into this 
mailbox.


In the same mailbox I created a rule. Closed the mailbox’s details 
pane and noticed that the filter had not done its job. Opened the 
details pane again and the filter was gone.


Are you able to reproduce this? If yes, then you might be able to get 
some error messages from the output of MailMate if you launch MailMate 
from a Terminal window:


/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/MacOS/MailMate

If you manage to get some output then send it to me directly using 
“Help ▸ Send Feedback” in MailMate.


Behavior was buggy while creating the compound rule: fields were 
disappearing and reappearing.


That is likely to be related to why it then didn't stick afterwards.

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Re: [MlMt] "Empty" Smart Mailbox

2016-12-29 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 29 Dec 2016, at 10:42, Oliver Groschopp wrote:

how can i create a "Empty" Smart Mailbox like "Examples"? Without "of 
alle following mailboxes"?


You cannot do that. It's an old missing feature (or bug if you must). 
You can duplicate and rename the mailbox or you can manually edit the 
`Mailboxes.plist` file when MailMate is not running.


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Re: [MlMt] How to *move* messages out of Inbox (or emulate such a behavior)?

2016-12-29 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 29 Dec 2016, at 4:47, Dave C wrote:

I mean, once you’ve set up all your Smart Mailboxes, when do you 
really need to look in it? That is, if you’re using the Inbox as 
your main receptacle for sorted, incoming mail, as I have.


The “All Messages” mailbox is also used (by default) when doing 
searches, e.g., using the toolbar search field. The default can be 
changed in the popup menu in the search field (but this still does not 
allow you to hide the mailbox).


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Re: [MlMt] # messages in a thread

2016-12-29 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 24 Dec 2016, at 10:46, David Ledger wrote:


On 8 Dec 2016, at 20:14, Aaron Falk wrote:


Is there a way to display the number of messages in a collapsed 
thread? Sorry if this is a FAQ.


If you use ‘Thread Arcs’ you can see how many messages a thread 
has as long as there’s space. What would be really useful would be 
if the unread ‘blobs’ were in a different colour, then we 
wouldn’t have to go ‘down’, ‘down’ ‘down’ until we get 
to a line with an ‘unread’ marker - we could go straight to the 
first unread message.


Note that you also have “Message ▸ Next Unread Message” 
(⌥⌘⇣).


With respect to thread arcs I don't think a different color would work 
well, but maybe unread messages could be “disks” and read messages 
could be circles. I'll give that some thought.


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Re: [MlMt] Formatting correction feature?

2016-12-29 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 29 Dec 2016, at 22:01, Dave C wrote:

Is there a means to eliminate text wrap? I copied and pasted a block 
of text from a received message into a new one and the wrapping 
remains. I’d like to institute my own formatting. Other than 
manually deleting each Return character, is there a quick way to do 
this in MM?


No, there is no built-in reformatter. MailMate itself uses 
`format=flowed` and never hard wraps text.


Well, there's an experimental reformatter implemented in an attempt to 
handle replies to Gmail messages (which have a hard-wrapped plain text 
part), but this is not useful in your case. If I complete that feature 
then it would also make sense to make it available for applying to text 
in general.


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Re: [MlMt] Formatting correction feature?

2016-12-29 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
Someone once showed me how to set up 'fmt' as a service -- you select 
the text, right-click, and invoke this service; it wraps lines at 72 
characters.  If there's interest, I'll dig up the instructions on how to 
do it.


On 29 Dec 2016, at 17:48, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 29 Dec 2016, at 22:01, Dave C wrote:

Is there a means to eliminate text wrap? I copied and pasted a block 
of text from a received message into a new one and the wrapping 
remains. I’d like to institute my own formatting. Other than 
manually deleting each Return character, is there a quick way to do 
this in MM?


No, there is no built-in reformatter. MailMate itself uses 
`format=flowed` and never hard wraps text.


Well, there's an experimental reformatter implemented in an attempt to 
handle replies to Gmail messages (which have a hard-wrapped plain text 
part), but this is not useful in your case. If I complete that feature 
then it would also make sense to make it available for applying to 
text in general.


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