[MlMt] Fwd: Certificat
Have you a response for me ? *** Olivier Bedouelle [vertdeco.fr](http://www.vertdeco.fr) Forwarded message: From: Olivier Bedouelle To: MailMate Users Subject: Certificat Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:42:52 +0100 Hi, I have a certificat .cer to https://www.tbs-internet.com it's possible tu use it with MM ? Cordially ***  Olivier Bedouelle | +33 6 80 99 99 33 | [Vertdeco.fr](http://www.vertdeco.fr) ***___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Certificat
On 5 Jan 2015, at 11:32, Olivier Bedouelle wrote: Have you a response for me ? Sorry, I haven't been answering all my emails during Christmas. I have been working a bit though (the latest 64 bit test version features a new Bundles preferenes pane). I have a certificat .cer to https://www.tbs-internet.com it's possible tu use it with MM ? I think so. You should add it to the system using the “Keychain Access” application. Then enable S/MIME in the Security preferences pane of MailMate. Finally, notice the new icons in the Composer status bar (for signing and/or encrypting emails). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Certificat
Hi Benny, I have a message: Failed to find certificate to encrypt for ***@l***.net. The specified item could not be found in the keychain. Error code: -25300  Cordially *** Olivier Bedouelle [vertdeco.fr](http://www.vertdeco.fr) On 5 Jan 2015, at 14:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 5 Jan 2015, at 11:32, Olivier Bedouelle wrote: > >> Have you a response for me ? > > Sorry, I haven't been answering all my emails during Christmas. I have been > working a bit though (the latest 64 bit test version features a new Bundles > preferenes pane). > >>> I have a certificat .cer to https://www.tbs-internet.com it's possible tu >>> use it with MM ? > > I think so. You should add it to the system using the “Keychain Access” > application. Then enable S/MIME in the Security preferences pane of MailMate. > Finally, notice the new icons in the Composer status bar (for signing and/or > encrypting emails). > > -- > Benny > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate smime.p7s Description: S/MIME digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] How to insert attached images within composed text
I just saw a message from Olivier with a captured image inserted within his text. I looked at his raw message source to see if I could glean the syntax for this. From this, it would seem that the syntax is:  My first challenge was how to discover the message id for the message I was composing. I found that I could display the raw source for the message in the WYSIWYG preview and from this copy the message id. I then attached the image. However, the image is not displayed inline. What is it that I'm doing wrong? Another thing: When the preview pane is displaying the raw message, once I start entering text in the compose pane, the raw message source disappears from view. — Curtis acm___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to insert attached images within composed text
On 5 Jan 2015, at 10:00, Allie Martin wrote: Had some crashing with r5032 while trying to compose and send this message. I had to redo the message copying and pasting the content. The tab before the syntax was not included. Here's the syntax I think that I should be using to get an attached image displayed within the composed text.  — Curtis acm___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to insert attached images within composed text
On 5 Jan 2015, at 9:00, Allie Martin wrote: My first challenge was how to discover the message id for the message I was composing. I found that I could display the raw source for the message in the WYSIWYG preview and from this copy the message id. I then attached the image. However, the image is not displayed inline. What is it that I'm doing wrong? Hi Allie, I use drag-and-drop to insert attached images in a Markdown message (with rendering an HTML part enabled). Dragging and dropping the image file into the text editing pane where I want to insert the image both attaches the image and creates a correct reference to it. -- Matt ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to insert attached images within composed text
On 5 Jan 2015, at 10:34, Matt Gray wrote: I use drag-and-drop to insert attached images in a Markdown message (with rendering an HTML part enabled). Dragging and dropping the image file into the text editing pane where I want to insert the image both attaches the image and creates a correct reference to it. Thanks. I tried this and it works. What's interesting is the message id that's in the reference. Where does that come from? It's different from the message id assigned to the message being composed. You can see the message's id by hitting ⌥⌘U and looking at the source in the preview window. — Curtis acm ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Extremely slow performance (UI and actions) on a clean setup
I setup MailMate on a new computer. For the most part I've gotten everything fixed up (custom keyboard shortcuts and the like). However, all the sources continually spin. This is both Gmail _and_ non-Gmail (FastMail) accounts. I've gotten 2-3 beachballs just typing this message. Archiving a message takes ~5-10s for the UI to confirm it's done, then a beachball. The only thing I can think of is this is a download/import thing but they are all IMAP accounts. Shouldn't it limit how many messages it downloads from the server at once? --jk___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] iCloud UIDVALIDITY issue
Hi, I have a user (off list) with the following issue with an iCloud account (`imap.mail.me.com`): * Emails in the “Archive” mailbox are tagged with various values (and used for smart mailboxes). * After some time (might be months) a change in the UIDVALIDITY value of the mailbox is reported by MailMate. * This requires resynchronizing the mailbox (refetching all messages). If the change of UIDVALIDITY really happened then this is all fine, but the tags are lost which is of course very frustrating for the user. My question is simple: Has any one else experienced this problem with iCloud (or any other server)? If yes, do you have any details to share? Thanks in advance. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Extremely slow performance (UI and actions) on a clean setup
On 5 Jan 2015, at 17:06, Joshua Kehn wrote: I setup MailMate on a new computer. For the most part I've gotten everything fixed up (custom keyboard shortcuts and the like). However, all the sources continually spin. This is both Gmail _and_ non-Gmail (FastMail) accounts. I've gotten 2-3 beachballs just typing this message. Archiving a message takes ~5-10s for the UI to confirm it's done, then a beachball. The only thing I can think of is this is a download/import thing but they are all IMAP accounts. Shouldn't it limit how many messages it downloads from the server at once? No, MailMate is a fully offline email client which means it fetches all emails in all of your accounts. This can take some time, especially for large Gmail accounts since Google throttles the bandwidth. You might see better performance with the 64 bit beta, but it's probably still best to just leave MailMate alone until all accounts are fully synchronized (no spinners). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to insert attached images within composed text
On 5 Jan 2015, at 16:59, Allie Martin wrote: On 5 Jan 2015, at 10:34, Matt Gray wrote: I use drag-and-drop to insert attached images in a Markdown message (with rendering an HTML part enabled). Dragging and dropping the image file into the text editing pane where I want to insert the image both attaches the image and creates a correct reference to it. Thanks. I tried this and it works. What's interesting is the message id that's in the reference. Where does that come from? It's different from the message id assigned to the message being composed. You can see the message's id by hitting ⌥⌘U and looking at the source in the preview window. It's the ID of the attachment. Look for `Content-ID` further down in the raw message view. (This header is only added, I think, when using drag'n'drop to inline something.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Extremely slow performance (UI and actions) on a clean setup
No, MailMate is a fully offline email client which means it fetches all emails in all of your accounts. This can take some time, especially for large Gmail accounts since Google throttles the bandwidth. Got it. I've got everything synced now and MailMate is back to it's usual snappy performance. --jk On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:17, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 5 Jan 2015, at 17:06, Joshua Kehn wrote: I setup MailMate on a new computer. For the most part I've gotten everything fixed up (custom keyboard shortcuts and the like). However, all the sources continually spin. This is both Gmail _and_ non-Gmail (FastMail) accounts. I've gotten 2-3 beachballs just typing this message. Archiving a message takes ~5-10s for the UI to confirm it's done, then a beachball. The only thing I can think of is this is a download/import thing but they are all IMAP accounts. Shouldn't it limit how many messages it downloads from the server at once? No, MailMate is a fully offline email client which means it fetches all emails in all of your accounts. This can take some time, especially for large Gmail accounts since Google throttles the bandwidth. You might see better performance with the 64 bit beta, but it's probably still best to just leave MailMate alone until all accounts are fully synchronized (no spinners). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to insert attached images within composed text
On 5 Jan 2015, at 16:06, Allie Martin wrote: Had some crashing with r5032 while trying to compose and send this message. If you can reproduce that then I would appreciate if you sent me some details off list (“Help ▸ Send Feedback”). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Certificat
On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:13, Olivier Bedouelle wrote: I have a message: Failed to find certificate to encrypt for ***@l***.net. The specified item could not be found in the keychain. Error code: -25300 Are you sure the email address of the certificate exactly matches the From address of the message composed? -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to insert attached images within composed text
On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: If you can reproduce that then I would appreciate if you sent me some details off list (“Help ▸ Send Feedback”). There was so much happening at the time. I ended up with a crash while trying to send a test message. When I restarted and tried to open the common drafts smart folder, it would crash every time. Then I decided to look at the drafts smart folder for each account. I could access those individually and delete the draft items. Nothing like that happened again since and I wouldn't know how to reproduce the issue. — Curtis acm ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to insert attached images within composed text
On 5 Jan 2015, at 21:33, Allie Martin wrote: On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: If you can reproduce that then I would appreciate if you sent me some details off list (“Help ▸ Send Feedback”). [...] Nothing like that happened again since and I wouldn't know how to reproduce the issue. Ok, thanks for the details. I have the crash reports and they might be sufficient to track down the problem. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Draft saving
I've noticed that when composing a message without any Markdown, it is not saved as a draft while composing. I'd be composing for long periods and this would continue to be the case. It's only when I add Markdown text that the draft begins to be saved while composing. To reproduce what I'm saying: Create a new message and start typing plain text. Type for a couple minutes. Now add Markdown stuff such as a italicised word. As soon as you complete the Markdown entry, you see the draft saved. *Reproduced* on entering this markdown'd word. — Curtis acm___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft saving
On 5 Jan 2015, at 21:38, Allie Martin wrote: I've noticed that when composing a message without any Markdown, it is not saved as a draft while composing. I'd be composing for long periods and this would continue to be the case. It's only when I add Markdown text that the draft begins to be saved while composing. Actually, drafts are always autosaved regularly in the background without changing the saved state of the message. Ideally, the saved state should only change when the user explicitly saves the message, but for technical reasons I'm currently forcing such a save whenever the “structure” of the message changes. This happens, for example, when Markdown to HTML generation is needed. Let me know if this does not explain what you see. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft saving
On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:38, Allie Martin wrote: I've noticed that when composing a message without any Markdown, it is not saved as a draft while composing. I'd be composing for long periods and this would continue to be the case. It's only when I add Markdown text that the draft begins to be saved while composing. As a direct extension to this issue, are saved drafts supposed to persist despite selecting 'Don't save' on exiting a message that you're composing? If so, it would be nice if there was an option to also delete drafts as well. I have to be manually deleting saved drafts despite aborting the composition of messages. — Curtis acm ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft saving
On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Actually, drafts are always autosaved regularly in the background without changing the saved state of the message. Ideally, the saved state should only change when the user explicitly saves the message, but for technical reasons I'm currently forcing such a save whenever the “structure” of the message changes. This happens, for example, when Markdown to HTML generation is needed. Let me know if this does not explain what you see. I don't see how this explains I have to manually delete from my drafts folder, drafts that have been saved after I've opted out of composing them only when Markdown syntax is in the message. IOW's, if I compose a message without Markdown syntax, I see no indication of a draft being saved in the drafts folder. If I opt out of composing by exiting the window and selecting 'Don't save' that's all I need to do. There is no remaining draft version to delete from the draft folder. However, if I do the same with Markdown syntax within the message, I have to do the manual delete every time. — Curtis acm ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft saving
On 5 Jan 2015, at 21:49, Allie Martin wrote: On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Actually, drafts are always autosaved regularly in the background without changing the saved state of the message. Ideally, the saved state should only change when the user explicitly saves the message, but for technical reasons I'm currently forcing such a save whenever the “structure” of the message changes. This happens, for example, when Markdown to HTML generation is needed. Let me know if this does not explain what you see. I don't see how this explains I have to manually delete from my drafts folder, drafts that have been saved after I've opted out of composing them only when Markdown syntax is in the message. IOW's, if I compose a message without Markdown syntax, I see no indication of a draft being saved in the drafts folder. If I opt out of composing by exiting the window and selecting 'Don't save' that's all I need to do. There is no remaining draft version to delete from the draft folder. However, if I do the same with Markdown syntax within the message, I have to do the manual delete every time. Yes, as I noted I'm currently “forcing a save” without the user explicitly asking for it. This is also why a draft survives after selecting “Don't Save”. MailMate only skips saving the changes since the last save. I probably wasn't clear about this: I consider it a badly implemented feature (or even a bug) that MailMate is currently forcing a save when the structure of a message changes. (It's just one of those things I've been postponing to fix for a long time.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Bundles.... third party ones maybe?
Benny, Nice to see the new Bundles architecture with the ability to disable those extra things we don't use, also nice to see the Github one ( not sure yet what it does, but look forward to finding out ). Altho - at work we use Gerrit ( https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/ ) and I also use GerritHub ( http://gerrithub.io/ ) on several github projects - is it possible for third parties like ourselves to write our own bundles? Either in Objective-C, Swift, Applescript/javascript, or even an embedded scheme/lisp?? Cheers, Mark -- Mark Derricutt http://www.theoryinpractice.net http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt http://twitter.com/talios http://facebook.com/mderricutt signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft saving
On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:55, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I probably wasn't clear about this: I consider it a badly implemented feature (or even a bug) that MailMate is currently forcing a save when the structure of a message changes. (It's just one of those things I've been postponing to fix for a long time.) It's becoming clearer now. However, even if I were to force a draft-save myself, shouldn't there be a way to delete drafts that are force-saved, more efficiently? This could be done by including a 'delete saved draft' toggle switch on the popup window that appears on exiting a compose window? In that way, the draft will disappear pretty much as it does when sending the message. — Curtis acm ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Bundles.... third party ones maybe?
On 5 Jan 2015, at 21:55, Mark Derricutt wrote: Nice to see the new Bundles architecture with the ability to disable those extra things we don't use, also nice to see the Github one ( not sure yet what it does, but look forward to finding out ). For now, it's very simple. It just locates and opens a github URL when you hit ⌃O. Altho - at work we use Gerrit ( https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/ ) and I also use GerritHub ( http://gerrithub.io/ ) on several github projects - is it possible for third parties like ourselves to write our own bundles? Either in Objective-C, Swift, Applescript/javascript, or even an embedded scheme/lisp?? You can use any language you like. Values are provided via environment variables and/or stdin. It's not very well documented though. My messages in [this thread](http://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg02472.html) are probably the most detailed resources. But I'll be happy to answer any questions. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft saving
On 5 Jan 2015, at 22:06, Allie Martin wrote: However, even if I were to force a draft-save myself, shouldn't there be a way to delete drafts that are force-saved, more efficiently? I'm not sure that would be needed very often. This could be done by including a 'delete saved draft' toggle switch on the popup window that appears on exiting a compose window? In that way, the draft will disappear pretty much as it does when sending the message. I'll keep your suggestion in mind. I'm not quite convinced that it wouldn't be sufficient to fix the “forced saves”. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft saving
On 5 Jan 2015, at 16:49, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: However, even if I were to force a draft-save myself, shouldn't there be a way to delete drafts that are force-saved, more efficiently? I'm not sure that would be needed very often. With some thought on it, I agree. You may be right about this. This could be done by including a 'delete saved draft' toggle switch on the popup window that appears on exiting a compose window? In that way, the draft will disappear pretty much as it does when sending the message. I'll keep your suggestion in mind. I'm not quite convinced that it wouldn't be sufficient to fix the “forced saves”. I think a lot of the messages that I abort composing, rather than postpone for later, would not have had me force saving a drafts. :) For those that I'd explicitly save a draft, which is only occasional, I'd not mind having to manually delete the draft after exiting the compose window. Additionally, those would be messages that I do intend to send and the draft would be auto-deleted on sending anyway. So yes, the fix would be to not force save drafts automatically as a behaviour that cannot be disabled. Leave that the forced saving to the user. I'm not sure why a change of message structure suddenly makes it more important than it was before such a change was introduced. :) — Curtis acm ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft saving
On 5 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Actually, drafts are always autosaved regularly in the background without changing the saved state of the message. Ideally, the saved state should only change when the user explicitly saves the message, but for technical reasons I'm currently forcing such a save whenever the “structure” of the message ^^ changes. This happens, for example, when Markdown to HTML generation is needed. The forcing of a save sounds like the real cause of the problem here. -- Paul Sture ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
