time machine or super duper

[ppowells09]

Per an accessibility standpoint, Please any input on whether one can use time 
machine on its own or superduper to back up one's computer.
I need to take my mac to the apple store tomorrow. I want an accessibile means 
to backk up its data before I take it in.
Any help you, as a list could offer would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

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strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check or 
uncheck to make this work properly?
Please help. Anything would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

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Re: Trying to imagine Fleksy as an alternate keyboard

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Hi Jamie,
As good as the flexy app is & as hard as their team have worked,I cannot see it 
as a primary keyboard.
The concept is ideal for a quick note in notepad or short text, Yet, I find a 
hardware keyboard more efficient than even the on screen IOS keyboard. Boxwave 
sells a hardware keyboard that snaps to the back of your phone only adding 
minor thickness to the phone itself. It is connected via bluetooth. I use the 
heck out of that thing, finding myself doing searches & emails with my phone 
vs. my computer. If you are interested, go to www.boxwave.com  Search for 
bluetooth keyboards.
Hope this helps.
Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

Trying to imagine Fleksy as an alternate keyboard 

Greetings all, 

As much as I like using Fleksy to type on my iPhone, I frequently find that I 
need to use the native iOS keyboard to edit a mistake I made earlier without 
realizing it. If I could use Fleksy as the default keyboard in the iPhone, how 
would I efficiently edit material already written down. Having never used an 
android device, perhaps I don't understand how alternate keyboards work. I 
would be interested in your thoughts. 

Typed with Fleksy but edited with the native keyboard
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Re: strange issue, please help

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Hello &thank you,
The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want to 
create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder & the 
home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. However, I 
changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to see where I 
am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a little vision. 
I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, it lands on the 
desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would save some 
keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check or 
uncheck to make this work properly?
Please help. Anything would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Hi 
I failed to answer a part of your question. Yes, the second ailius drops on the 
first.
Thanks much.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 1:40 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

Hello &thank you,
The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want to 
create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder & the 
home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. However, I 
changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to see where I 
am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a little vision. 
I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, it lands on the 
desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would save some 
keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check or 
uncheck to make this work properly?
Please help. Anything would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Thank you Tim for your step by step instructions. Much appreciated.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

The Applications folder is where all the apps are normally stored by default.  
Your Home folder is where your personal data is normally stored.  When in the 
Finder, cmd-shift-a takes you to your Applications folder and cmd-shift-h takes 
you to your Home folder.  Applications should remain in the Applications folder 
and, as you've mentioned, an alias is what needs placed on your Desktop.  
Moving the actual Application out of the Applications folder may cause strange 
behaviours.

So, when in the Finder,

• press cmd-shift-a to open your Applications folder.
• Navigate to the app you wish to make an alias for.
• Press cmd-l to make the alias.
4.  Press cmd-c on that alias.
5.  Navigate to your Desktop with VO-shift-d.
6.  Press cmd-option-v to Move the alias to your Desktop.

When on your Desktop, you can clean things up buy making sure that your Desktop 
is active then going up to the View menu and choosing Cleanup.  You can also 
have the icons on your Desktop quickly be cleaned up and alphabetized by 
pressing cmd-option-1.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-08, at 12:40 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hello &thank you,
> The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want 
> to create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder & 
> the home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. 
> However, I changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to 
> see where I am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a 
> little vision. I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, 
> it lands on the desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would 
> save some keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
> desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
> to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
> on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
> correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check 
> or uncheck to make this work properly?
> Please help. Anything would be appreciated.
> 
> Pam Francis
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Re: OT: Mobile Carrier for the Visually Impaired? Um, What's the Point?

[ppowells09]

Hi folks,
I don't even have to read the article to know it's a bad idea. We as a blind 
community have strived to assimilate ourselves in to normal society, through 
accessibility of mainstream products. I don't even like the idea of large print 
phone keypads. The keypad within itself is uniform & not hard to learn as a 
young child. Any carrier, who feels the need to market itself solely to the 
blind community is a direct slap in the face to Apple, Android, & other smaller 
companies who have created accessible equipment for us. It would be a definite 
step backward. I hope the ignorant creators of this outlandish idea follow 
lists such as this one & others to guage reaction.

Pam Francis

On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:

Well, Mike, if the response of this list is any indication, that third party 
effort will faulter very soon:  that is, assuming it even gets off the ground.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:54 PM, "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, 
Commtech LLC"  wrote:

> All that I am trying to say, is that if they want to try to do this company, 
> and experiment with how well there is a response to their services, then that 
> is up to them. It is up to the consumer, or us, that determines whether or 
> not this is going to be a successful business venture or not.
> 
> Michael Babcock
> Marketing and Sales Manager
> Commtech LLC
> Web: http://commtechusa.net
> phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
> Fax: (480) 535-7649
> 
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
>> Quite correct I'd say.  It seems like what's happening here is that most of 
>> us seem to feel this seperate carrier business just is a waste of time.  
>> What's wrong with putting out a little effort to get what you want or need?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yep, I agree 100%.  this approach sends the wrong message to the 
>>> "mainstream" world, by implying that they either can't or don't need to 
>>> make their products accessible to us. And also enables disabled people to 
>>> say they can't fully participate in things because they have to have all 
>>> these special services, equipment, etc.  It also short-changes us by giving 
>>> us the illusion that we have something that is empowering while really it's 
>>> just separating us from the rest of the world.  And as for the notion of 
>>> being able to dial 611 and get a question about JAWS answered, there are 
>>> lots of other places where one can get answers to those sorts of questions 
>>> if people just take the time to learn where to look.
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
  Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those 
 phones.  Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it 
 possible for companies to say, "Well, there's that special company helping 
 the visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods and 
 services accessible. This perpetuates the idea that we require 
 marginalized goods and services as well, which has ramifications for 
 education,  employment, recreation, and integration into our communities 
 at every level.
 Christine
 
 
 On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
 
> We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is 
> provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones.
> Original message:
>> Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems 
>> pretty pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range 
>> of experiences  available to the sighted on any mobile carrier. Why on 
>> earth do we need a special phone carrier? Separate and marginalized, 
>> rather than expecting to be included in available services.
> 
>> Christine
>> http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/05/odin-mobile-first-mobile-service-provider-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Gi,
Thank you, both Tim & Nick for your specific instructions. I still have one 
question. At any time during the process must one interact with the folder or 
ailius?
Thanks much

Pam Francis

On Jun 9, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

Tim's instructions should work fine. If, however, you have any difficulties, 
you can also try the following:
   •Make an alias of whatever file you want to put on your desktop with 
Command-L as Tim said.
   •Press command-C on that alias to copy it.
   •Navigate to your Home folder with Command-Shift-H.
   •Press right arrow once to select your Desktop folder.
   •Once you've selected the Desktop folder, press command-option-V to move 
the alias to the desktop.

Cheers,
Nic 

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Re: Docuscan plus

[ppowells09]

Hi Jamie,
We are all greatful for the work Serotek has done with reference to 
accessibility. However, unless I am missing something, the benefits of the 
access anywhere plan are not universally available to mac users, as they are to 
pc users. I want to subscribe to the service, but see no reason to pull out my 
windows machine to access one website. Also, when I had my trial, & was 
thinking of subscribing, it seemed that I was taken through innumerable pages 
attempting to sell me something other than what I want. When I go in to a 
store, with a list, I get it, pay for it & go on about my daily life. Please 
streamline the process, along with making it universally available to mac 
users, per all of the features.
Thanks much

Pam Francis

On Jun 10, 2013, at 10:43 PM, "Jamie Pauls"  wrote:

If you have SeroTek's Accessibility Anywhere package which includes DocuScan
Plus, you can connect to SAMNet from within iBlink Radio and view scanned
documents right from iBlink. I suspect this is where some of the confusion
is coming from. You cannot, however, scan documents from iOS at this time.

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Docuscan plus runs on a poc or a Mac, not IOS.
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Re: I Broke FaceTime on my Mac

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Hi Johnathan,
Do you also use Imessage? If so, There is a menu within your conversation that 
will allow you to launch face time from the message. I have used face time 
quite a lot myself & love the feature. I wish Apple would allow 1 to 1 training 
using face time versus having to compete with the noise of the store, while 
using voiceover.

Pam Francis

On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

Hi everyone, I'd be grateful for any help out of this one.

I think this problem started when I hid the FaceTime window on the Mac by 
accident. Now when I run FaceTime, all that VO can see are the close, minimise 
the zoom buttons. If I try to bring up preferences, nothing happens. My list of 
recent contacts is no longer visible, and if I get an incoming call, the 
decline button appears in the dialog, but the accept button does not.

I've tried hiding all other windows and then activating the zoom button. I've 
restarted FaceTime and the machine. I've signed out and back in. I'm thinking 
this must be related to the size of the window, but I haven't found a 
straightforward way to maximise it. I did try bringing the window to the front 
but that hasn't helped.

I use FaceTime a great deal so if anyone has any thoughts, that would be great. 
Thanks.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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Re: Nightowl questions

[ppowells09]

I sincerely hope this helps. Everyone is so helpful on this list, I save the 
answers I am given that work at the time.

When you start it, the focus should be on your main timeline (once you log in 
of course). From there, use cmd-right or left to move through your timelines 
(home, mentions, DMs, favorites). Up and down arrows will read tweets, provided 
Quicknav is off, and for all other commands, have a look through the dropdown 
menus, specifically the tweet and timeline menus. You will also wanto to open 
preferences with cmd-comma, go to the compose tab, and disable the username and 
hashtag autofill options.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:18 PM,ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I recently installed this program on my Mac. Are the  help files 
> self-explanatory, or is there a good guide to learn how to use this program 
> successfully?
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> When you say you deleted the preferences, what exactly did you delete... I 
> mean like... what files, and where were they located exactly?  I know the 
> .app file, but I mean aside from that?
> 
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
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> - Original Message - From: "Steve Holmes" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:46
> Subject: Re: Yorufukurou Trouble
> 
> 
> Nope, never had this problem. Only thing I can think of is maybe looking 
> around in ~/library for any psettings files for yorufukurou; not sure if 
> deleting the app always rids you of these settings.
> 
> On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Jane  wrote:
> 
>> Every time I try to re-open Yorufukurou, I get a notice saying that it quit 
>> unexpctedly while trying to open windows. No matter if I hit the button to 
>> open them or not, it continues to crash.  I deleted the app and its prefs. I 
>> re-installed the app. I have tried rebooting. I am running Mountain Lion.  
>> Does anyone have suggestions for this?
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
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Hi,
Here are instructions Alex gave me when I initially installed the program.
Hope they help.





Pam Francis

On Jun 15, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
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No luck on searching. What about filtering to see if someone directed messenger 
you or has had a direct conversation with you?
On Jun 15, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Maria & Joe Chapman  
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> Hi.  to follow someone open a new tweet press f space followed by the at 
> simbol and the user name you want to follow.  YOu can also inter

Re: Screen Brightness and VoiceOver

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Hello,
I have used screen curtain on my Idevices, while reading a book. I have also 
adjusted screen brightness on my computer if I am using it to access a podcast 
or the like which doesn't require me to be in front of it. I have not had any 
kind of issues with voiceover finding its way around the screen when the screen 
brightness is reduced. I remember my very first experience with a software 
screenreader using DOS 5 & Word perfect 5.1. I have enough vision that I tried 
to follow the cursor. Needless to say, it slowed me down considerably. My 
instructor took away my monitor forcing me to listen to the speech. I can't 
believe the mac would need a lighted screen to function either.

Pam Francis

On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:01 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

After contemplating the sad news that screen curtain does not conserve battery 
power, I decided today to try and lower my mid 2011 MacBook Air's screen 
brightneess in order to conserve battery power. I did this in the display pane 
of system preferences. When I tried adjusting the screen brightness slider, 
however, VoiceOver went a little bananas. The sound kept cutting in and out 
almost like VoiceOver was stuttering or on a really bad phone line. Then I lost 
VoiceOver sound completely. I navigated right and turned automatically adjust 
screen brightness back on, and VoiceOver returned to me. However, when I would 
navigate back to the brightness slider VoiceOver would begin stutterring again.

Any ideas of what's going on here? Does this happen to everyone or just me?

Cheers,
Nic

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Re: where do I fine accessible apps for the mack

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Gi,
The applevis site has their apps categorized very well. Unfortunately, there 
are not as many free apps that are accessible for mac as is the case for IOS. 
What specifically are you looking for?

Pam Francis

On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:

Hi all,
I was wondering where I could fine out what apps are accessible for the mack 
computer?  I went to app vis to look and it it was not very easy to fine which 
one were free and accessible.
Any help would be great.
Becky Sabo 
On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Oh my gosh that'll be freaking amazing!
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> Also, apparently when you quote from iBooks on the Mac it will automatically 
>> insert a citation for you. I assume this means when you copy and paste. I 
>> too really, really hope it's accessible. I'm pretty sure it will be or, at 
>> least, they'll make it accessible sooner or later.
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Re: If I really must get an iphone...

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Hello Karen, 
I have an Iphone 4S. I do use a hardware keyboard that attaches to the back of 
the phone , only slightly thickening it, yet giving me hardware tactile keys. 
When one gets used to the feel, it is designed for speed. It is called a 
keyboard buddy ase made by boxwave. The hardware keyboard slides in & out as 
needed. If you look in to this type of keyboard or a similar manufacturer, you 
won't be sorry. The unit slips over the back of the phone & is no longer than 
the phone, it is also bluetooth connected.

Pam Francis

On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:57 PM, "Jamie Pauls"  wrote:

You cannot, however, add a contact using Siri. As much as I agree with all
comments about how great the iPhone is, I feel that we need to try to answer
the specific questions as much as possible. I am pretty sure you can use a
Bluetooth keyboard to dial phone numbers, although I haven't done so. Also,
remember that you can get cases with a keyboard attached so you aren't
carrying two pieces of equipment. This will, of course, increase the size of
the phone.

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Hello.
The first question is true, using Siri, you can dial numbers, and send text
messages is possible using your voice.
I don't believe there is a keyboard scrictly for dialling, however.
Hope this helped.

On 2013-06-26, at 12:55 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I do not want one truth be told.  My goal is a phone with buttons, and
while some remain available from my provider, I may not end up with much
choice  lol.
> I understand from many using the iphone for dialing that it is slow and a
pain.
> my questions are two, and very strict ones.  do not mistake me, I know it
is fine as a smart device, but I am 100% firm on what I need in a phone
only.
> My questions are two.
> can I do everything entirely by voice? speak the numbers, if for some odd
reason I want to send a text, etc.?
> second, if I must add a keyboard for dialing, does one exist?  not for
typing, strictly for dialing the phone.
> I type 85 words a minute, I do not wish to spend time poking rapidly at a
screen  trying to dial the phone.
> so, are either of the two work arounds options?
> thanks,
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Re: i phone users.

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Hi,
I too am an iphone, ipad, & mac user. As much as I enjoy my apple equipment, I 
retain my windows 7 machine for the rare instance there is not a mac equivalent 
for a windows program I may need at the time.

Pam Francis

On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock  
wrote:

> 
> Hello  everyone, 

I have been an apple I Phone  user  Since  October 31, 209. When I first 
purchased  my very  first I Phone 3. g s.  I had never  texted  anyone that I 
knew with a smart phone. I didn't  have the proper access  to a smart phone 
where I could text, send email or instant  messages  let alone  download  music 
and video content.  Without  having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my 
brand new I phone inside  of my hands. I was so elated  with joy I did not know 
what  to do with myself  at first. 
Now  I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I  not only have an I phone  4. 
s. But I have a makdck book  pro and a time capsule along  with an I pad mini 
and  and finally  I have a Apple TV.  That Is how invested  in all things apple 
that I am at the moment. 
For the record I will never go back to the Windows  operating system ever again 
as long as I live. 
Sincerely,  Chenelle 
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Re: The cammel's back has been broken!

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Hi Chris,
Though I am not familiar with your blog, or what is going on, may I say, your 
contributions will be missed. We are all here to help each other. The extent an 
individual chooses to go is his own. Thank you for all of your detailed 
explanations during my own list membership which hasn't been very long.
Take care, & God speed.

Pam Francis

On Jun 30, 2013, at 2:07 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

OK, the final straw has been placed.  I'm leaving the list!

My blog has been hacked, by a member on this list.  I know darn well who did it 
from looking over the past few days at server logs.  Rest assured that I've 
contacted both my blog hosting provider, as well as the ISP of the person 
responsible, and in both cases, they told me they were looking into taking 
necessary legal action.  If I can get a good enough case put together, I too 
myself will be pressing charges.

The blog is getting uninstalled and removed, and I'll end by saying this. Even 
those who were not on my bad side, no more free help ever again technically is 
going to be granted.  Case closed.

Now if my partner in the business Ben wants to help you for free? That's his 
own decision, but as far as I go, never ever again ever! will I be offerring 
free support/list contribution.  This hack finally diddit!  You all blew it!

Don't write me either with your apologies for treating me this way.  It won't 
do any good.  My decision is final!

Chris. 
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Re: setting mail back to clasic view

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Hi 
Not sure if this, will help, yet is a good resource & gives excellent ideas for 
mail organization.
Try this link.

http://mac.appstorm.net/how-to/internet-howto/turning-mail-app-into-the-best-mac-email-app/

Pam Francis

On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:29 PM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:

Hey guys,

This is driving me nuts.  I'm trying to set my mail back to classic view,
but I see nothing for it under preferences.  Any ideas where it is hiding?
I can't find it anywhere.

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Re: Trouble with Drag and Drop

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Drag & drop was a nice vo concept. However it is very inconsistent with 
keyboard commands. Are there gestures one can use on the trackpad that will 
make it work with better consistency?

Pam Francis

On Jul 21, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

It didn't work so I subscribed to the podcast again through iTunes.
On 21 Jul 2013, at 21:50, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> That is what I tried and will try it again and let you know.
> On 21 Jul 2013, at 17:16, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>>   Try copying it first to downloads or documents.  Then move it to the 
>> iTunes library.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have tried copying the podcast, but the podcast will not copy from the 
>>> trash and I cannot move it   to the ITunes folder.
>>> 
>>> On 21 Jul 2013, at 04:52 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
 Could you jsut copy the podcast from the Trash and move it to the podcasts 
 folder in your iTunes folder in Finder?  It seems that is less stress than 
 fighting with drag and drop.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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> Hello.
> 
> We've visited this subject many times but today, I tried getting a 
> podcast out of the trash.
> 
> I can select the podcast by doing command option comma but can't find the 
> keys to drag.  Please could someone tell me how to drag please?  Using 
> Mountain Lion.
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Using the say command

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Hi Georgena, 
Here is the link you are looking for in the app store.
Hope this helps.


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/seeingassistant-move/id625286820?mt=8

Pam Francis

On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

Hello Chris,

Yes, I saw that message but didn't understand what the script did. So didn't 
know if it applied to the say command. Hence my question to the list. Quite a 
few people assured me that the say command works. Are you saying it doesn't any 
longer?

Thanks.
Gena

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On 23 Jul 2013, at 19:20, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> This came up on Macvisionaries about a week ago:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg89254.html
> 
> CB
> 
> On 7/23/13 11:33 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Yes, it does have a default rate. Which can be over ridden by using the -r 
>> flag. However, I get the following error, when using the most basic form:
>> 
>> say hello
>> 
>> MTBEAudioUnitSoundOutput::PropagateProperty Error -10851
>> MTBEAudioUnitSoundOutput::PropagateProperty Error -10851
>> 
>> Hence why I asked if the audio architecture could handle using VO and say at 
>> the same time.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> On 23 Jul 2013, at 06:46, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> It works on my machine too; just tried it. Yes, you could use the say 
>>> command in shell or apple scripts for audible messages or prompts or 
>>> whatever. I noticed it uses the system voice at default speeds which is 
>>> slower than what VO does on my setup.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 What do you mean? Is this in Applescript or the terminal?
 
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> 
> I wondered if anyone had successfully used the say command while using 
> VoiceOver?
> 
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> 
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Re: The SeeingAssistant Move app

[ppowells09]

I found the link to the app you are looking for. I posted it in another thread 
in error.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/seeingassistant-move/id625286820?mt=8

Pam Francis

On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Can you send me a link to it please?  I can't seem to be able to find it even 
after doing a google search for it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> I've actually never heard of it, what is it supposed to be?
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Shane Christenson wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone messed with this iPhone app? I have tried it, but with limited 
>> success. Thanks for any help or input.
>> Shane
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Re: The SeeingAssistant Move app

[ppowells09]

Hello, I am not having trouble. I sent the link to a different thread by 
mistake. Hope it helps.

Pam Francis

On Jul 24, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Cool, will check this out; what are you having trouble with?
On Jul 24, 2013, at 7:30 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> I found the link to the app you are looking for. I posted it in another 
> thread in error.
> 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/seeingassistant-move/id625286820?mt=8
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Can you send me a link to it please?  I can't seem to be able to find it even 
> after doing a google search for it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
>> I've actually never heard of it, what is it supposed to be?
>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Shane Christenson wrote:
>> 
>>> Has anyone messed with this iPhone app? I have tried it, but with limited 
>>> success. Thanks for any help or input.
>>> Shane
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Update on Apple Care

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Hi folks,
When I got my 4S, I was told about 2 different apple care plans. for $99 I 
could get Apple care that would cover one accidental replacement if it were 
dropped in water. They needed to see the phone within 30 days of purchase to 
make sure it was in good working order. The other plan cost $69 & covered phone 
support as we all have become accustomed to. For that plan, I had 1 year from 
date of purchase to pay for it.
Hope this helps.

Pam Francis

On Jul 26, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

They ask for your serial number in the UK too. I registered my I Mac for Apple 
care when I got it and I had to give my serial number.

Kawal.

On 26 Jul 2013, at 03:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Maybe it's different in the UK, but here in the US if you call AppleCare they 
> always ask for your serial number. They didn't ask me either, but they put it 
> down. They already had it in the store.
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 26, 2013, at 5:49 AM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone.
>> Just an update.
>> Thanks to your advice, I have signed up to Apple Care for my Mcbook Pro 13 
>> Inch.
>> I went for the plan that covers Macbook Air and 13 Inch Macbook Pro. Well 
>> that's what the store says anyway.
>> Cost was £199 including Vat and delivery is free.
>> I will get in the box some paperwork.
>> But what surprises me is that in theory, anybody with an Apple Id can sign 
>> up to Apple Care, because Apple does not validate your order by checking a 
>> product's serial number. Nowhere in the order process was I asked for my 
>> Macbook Pro's serial number. I therefore would hate customers to purchase 
>> Apple Care, only to find out it's not valid as they bought it 1 year from 
>> the original purchase date for example. That's like £200 gone down the drain!
>> I know mine will be accepted, but thought I would point this out for 
>> potential customers on here.
>> With kind regards Chris.
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Re: Apple one-on-one training

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Hi,
I did pay for the $99 one on one training when I bought my mac, as I was new to 
the Mac OS. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't pay for it.None of this 
has anything to do with the staff or their knowledge as it does with the 
inordinate noise in the store making it almost impossible to hear voiceover. 
The store needs a quiet office where one can get the most out of the training 
or they need to make use of face time in order to give everyone an optimum 
experience.

Pam Francis

On Jul 26, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

I think I'm in agreement with you Alex. There's probably enough
resources between these lists and my fertile little brain to learn and
do what I need to do;-)
It'd be a definite luxury to spend $100 for something I might/might
not need. On the other hand, it might be worthwhile to pick apples
brains on certain accessibility topics, and It might keep me busy
during the winter months - I'm going to have to think about it a bit.

On 7/25/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Personally, I wouldn't do it. Between Google, this and other lists, and the
> knowledge you already have, I don't think you would benefit from training,
> at least not a hundred dollars' worth. If it were me, I'd rather spend that
> money on extending Apple Care so I'd always be covered in terms of hardware
> problems.
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I'm about to buy a macBookAir and am weighing if the one-on-one 1year
>> training is worth the $99. I'm not new to Mac/VO, but thought it might be
>> worthwhile to have access to a trainer over the course of the next year.
>> Anyone ever used this service? Thoughts?
>> I have a very well staffed apple store nearby so taking advantage of the
>> training wouldn't be any trouble, I'm just wondering if I'd be tossing
>> away my money.
>> thanks
>> 
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Re: AppleCare paid for itself

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I have not had that serious of an issue, however,  I have had reason to use my 
apple care. I know without it I would have been paying money I could not afford 
to keep my mac running properly.

Pam Francis

On Dec 14, 2012, at 1:56 AM, Joseph Norton  wrote:

Hi all:

Well, I know Clark Howard doesn't like extended warranties, but, today, I just 
got my Mac Mini back from the repair center.

My 320GB hard-drive crashed--making the click of death, a few days ago.

I had purchased an AppleCare warranty for my Mac and they felt the repair would 
be covered.

So, I brought it to the local repair facility with my certificate in hand.

They took a look, and, I got a call from their tech saying the hard-drive had 
crashed (which I already knew), and they were ordering another one.

I got a call a couple days later, letting me know the machine was fixed.  
Initially, they wanted my discs to reinstall software, but, they found out they 
had a copy of Mountain Lion (which I purchased anyway) so they installed that.  
Not only had they reinstalled Mountain Lion, but, the new hard-drive I received 
was a 500GB hard-drive.  And, all at no charge.  Guess they don't ship as many 
320GB drives anymore.  I'm not complaining.

Here's hoping I get even more use out of this one.

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Re: Controlling iTunes from an iPhone

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Hi folks,
Please forgive my ignorance. What is the name of the remote app in question? 
Also, how does controlling itunes from your iphone differ from controlling it 
on your computer? What is to be gained?
thanks

Pam Francis

On Dec 15, 2012, at 2:59 PM, chris bruinenberg  wrote:

Hi Max.
Yes, it's very possible.
Download the remote application made by apple. It will prompt you to type in a 
code on the amc and then you can control the mac with your phone with iTunes.
I use this quite frequently, it works like a charm.
THanks.
Chris

On Dec 15, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Hello all, I have been told that it is possible to control iTunes from an 
> iPhone. Is this correct? If so how is this possible?
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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Re: Mac Air Users Question

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Hi folks,
I have an 11 inch MacBook air. I love it's portability. It's also very light, 
does not get warm due to its SSD drive versus a spinning hard drive, The keys 
are not smaller yet are closer together slightly because of the size. The one 
caveat I would offer, Is to consider the environment in which you are using the 
MacBook air. It has stereo speakers, yet they are very small and very tinny. 
Unless you are using headphones or are in a very quiet environment, it can be 
difficult to hear. However, even that as a con, might be the only con I can 
find. It's an excellent machine. Also, keep in mind the air along with the new 
MacBooks, are one solid machine. They cannot be opened up and added to. 

Pam Francis

On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

True, enough.  I don't leave a USB drive plugged in all the time, of course.  
But I find that that set meets my needs, and I suspect would meet most peoples. 
 At least, for most people it wouldn't speak to a need for the larger MBA.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Well, this is a case of "to each his/her own". Usb thumb drives are larger 
> than sd cards and usually stick out some. Also, if you have limited usb ports 
> and make regular use of other usb devices, the sd card slot is more valuable 
> to you. It is obvious from my wording that I am one of those who would want 
> the sd slot. But you just have to assess your own needs and preferences.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> why would you want an SD card if you can use a thumb drive?  I don't even 
>> own any SD cards any more.  Any extra file storage I need just goes on a USB 
>> drive.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> The one thing to remember is that the 11-inch model has no SD card slot, 
>>> whereas the 13-inch model does. Coupled with a Nifty Mini drive and a micro 
>>> SD card, you can then add up to 64gb of extra storage to the 13-inch; the 
>>> 11-inch, lacking the SD slot, cannot do this. Yes there are USB card 
>>> readers, but that takes up one of the two ports on the machine.
>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:44 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
 I don't know why people would be concerned about the Mac Book Air, after 
 all, it's as small as a net book. If I were to buy a portible lap top, it 
 would be the 11 inch MacBook Air.  At the moment I'm very happy with what 
 I have.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 11 Jan 2013, at 10:12 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
  wrote:
 
> I'm not sure why folk keep talking about smaller keys on the Air, The 
> iMac blue tooth keyboard and the 11in and 13in Air have identical sized 
> keys.
> 
> The only caveat is the Function row of keys, which on an 11in Air are 
> slightly reduced in height.
> 
> otherwise, the actual keys, numeric and alpha are all the identical size.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> 
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> Twitter @neilbarnfather
> 
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> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> 
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> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
> 
> On 9 Jan 2013, at 14:01, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> The air acts exactly like any other Mac. The only difference is the 
>> presence of the trackpad and what might be smaller keys, depending on 
>> what keyboard you are used to. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 8:49, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I have been a long time Imac user and need to get a laptop for travel.
>>> I love voiceover on the Imac most of the time, and wanted to see if
>>> anyone had experience using voiceover both on an Imac and mac air, and
>>> if there was any notable difference or anything I need to be aware of?
>>> I looked at it in the Apple store, but you can't really hear anything
>>> in there. I don't need any kind of power computing, just be using the
>>> Mac Air 13 for browsing, email, news rack, twitter, itunes match,
>>> cloud computing, pages and numbers mostly so not having a big hard
>>> drive shouldn't be a problem. Thinking about bumping up the RAM to 8GB
>>> instead of the 4 it comes with, and will probably get a thumb drive
>>> for anything big I might need. I am not interested in the Ipad as I
>>> hate typing on it, and do like a full keyboard and the option
>>> voiceover on the Imac gives me. Thanks
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Re: Mac Air Users Question

[ppowells09]

Hi Alex,
My reasons for making the comment concerning the speakers, Surround an incident 
with Apple care tech-support attempting to help me with voiceover while they 
were on a speakerphone. I had my Mac air turned up completely along  With the 
volume of my speaker phone turned up. The tech-support representative had 
issues hearing what voiceover was telling me in order to help me figure out 
what was going on. We did ultimately get the issue  resolved. In my general 
home environment, it's excellent. I only wish the Apple Store, had a quieter 
room for those of us using voice over to both learn on and set up a new 
computer. That is An  awful experience.

Pam Francis

On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Really? I find the Air gets pretty loud, and if I'm in a crowded area I much 
prefer to use headphones anyway. Yes, the speakers are a bit tinny, but 
considering the size I'd call them pretty good.
On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:23 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I have an 11 inch MacBook air. I love it's portability. It's also very light, 
> does not get warm due to its SSD drive versus a spinning hard drive, The keys 
> are not smaller yet are closer together slightly because of the size. The one 
> caveat I would offer, Is to consider the environment in which you are using 
> the MacBook air. It has stereo speakers, yet they are very small and very 
> tinny. Unless you are using headphones or are in a very quiet environment, it 
> can be difficult to hear. However, even that as a con, might be the only con 
> I can find. It's an excellent machine. Also, keep in mind the air along with 
> the new MacBooks, are one solid machine. They cannot be opened up and added 
> to. 
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> True, enough.  I don't leave a USB drive plugged in all the time, of course.  
> But I find that that set meets my needs, and I suspect would meet most 
> peoples.  At least, for most people it wouldn't speak to a need for the 
> larger MBA.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Well, this is a case of "to each his/her own". Usb thumb drives are larger 
>> than sd cards and usually stick out some. Also, if you have limited usb 
>> ports and make regular use of other usb devices, the sd card slot is more 
>> valuable to you. It is obvious from my wording that I am one of those who 
>> would want the sd slot. But you just have to assess your own needs and 
>> preferences.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> why would you want an SD card if you can use a thumb drive?  I don't even 
>>> own any SD cards any more.  Any extra file storage I need just goes on a 
>>> USB drive.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 The one thing to remember is that the 11-inch model has no SD card slot, 
 whereas the 13-inch model does. Coupled with a Nifty Mini drive and a 
 micro SD card, you can then add up to 64gb of extra storage to the 
 13-inch; the 11-inch, lacking the SD slot, cannot do this. Yes there are 
 USB card readers, but that takes up one of the two ports on the machine.
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:44 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
> I don't know why people would be concerned about the Mac Book Air, after 
> all, it's as small as a net book. If I were to buy a portible lap top, it 
> would be the 11 inch MacBook Air.  At the moment I'm very happy with what 
> I have.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 11 Jan 2013, at 10:12 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure why folk keep talking about smaller keys on the Air, The 
>> iMac blue tooth keyboard and the 11in and 13in Air have identical sized 
>> keys.
>> 
>> The only caveat is the Function row of keys, which on an 11in Air are 
>> slightly reduced in height.
>> 
>> otherwise, the actual keys, numeric and alpha are all the identical size.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an 
>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>> 
>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>> 
>> On 9 Jan 2013, at 14:01, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> The air acts exactly like any other Mac. The only difference is the 
>>> presence of the trackpad and what might be smaller keys, depending on 
>>> what keyboard you are used to. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>

Re: Zoom text for Mac

[ppowells09]

Hello,
Thanks for your kind response. I understand Zim text is not a screen reader per 
se. I use a combination of speech and screen magnification. My concern is with 
the idea that Apple would allow someone else into their API therefore allowing 
a third-party vendor to take over their accessibility for which they have done 
quite well. As a friend of mine stated earlier today, everyone is looking to 
cut costs somewhere. Conceivably Apple could be looking at excess ability as a 
Means of attempting to cut costs of their product. I pray that is not the case. 
Be at screen magnification or speech, I certainly do not want to go back to the 
world of SMA agreements with third-party vendors. If AI squared can make a 
product that is an adjunct to what Apple offers rather than a direct 
competitor, I have no problem. However if it is the first step of taking over 
accessibility in one form or another I have an issue. 

Pam Francis

On Feb 8, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Tom Frank  wrote:

ZoomText is not a screen reader, and as there questions and answers state, they 
have no interest in making a screen reader for the Mac.

AI squared only makes products for low vision users. Their Windows products 
include some text to speech features, but, no matter what, you need some vision 
to navigate.
 although Voice Over is fantastic, Apple has not done a very good job on Screen 
magnification software. Therefore, I believe there is a definite void for third 
party developers to fill. 


Frank Tom
vermont...@gmail.com



On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Pam Francis  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I also downloaded the file. It seems to work, yet needsa little work with 
> reference to its layout. Not sure how I feel about 3rd party developers 
> getting in to the mac OS with referenced to Apple seems to do an admirable 
> job thus far. I am afraid if 3rd party developers are allowed in to their 
> API, it will be the death of mac accessibility as we know it. We will be 
> expected to pay outrageous prices for screen readers as has been the norm on 
> the windows side.accessibility. 
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Tom Frank  wrote:
> 
>> I downloaded Zoomtext successfully last night and took it for a short spin. 
>> It seems to work quite well.  I went to the products link on the AI Squared 
>> website and found the Mac download link there. I had to enter my name, email 
>> and a few other details and it then downloaded the file to my download 
>> folder. The process was quite painless.
>> Tom
>> vermont...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, "Emilio S. Hernandez" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey everyone,
>>> 
>>> I have recently tried to download the demo for Zoom text.
>>> I went to the developer website, which was provided as a link in the 
>>> Applevis News feed I am subscribed to.
>>> Upon entering in my information, I was taken to a page where I could 
>>> download a trial version. I was not able to find a Mac specific download 
>>> file. Everything pointed me to Windows only.
>>> Would anyone know what I have not done correctly? Would anyone be willing 
>>> to guide me in the direction I need to go in order to download this demo?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

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Hi folks, this is a feature, I am not familiar with. I have seen it in system 
preferences. My question is this, will it work on any text boxes/iMessage? Will 
it repeat what it has written? Thanks for any help.

Pam Francis

On Feb 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:

You need to be certain you are interacting with the edit field vo shift down
arrow, then tap the FN key twice you should get the same type of tone you
get when activating dictation on any of the I devices speak your peace then
double tap the FN key again. That should do it. 

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Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

Hi when I log onto my Twitter client Searness, I go to the edit field to
tweet, and I press function key twice, and nothing happens.
On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Brandon Olivares 
wrote:

> Can you explain what you mean?
> 
> God bless,
> Brandon Olivares
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>> Hi guys, why want to the Mountain lion dictation work when I am on Siri
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Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

[ppowells09]

Thank you very much. Much appreciated. Yes, I am running mountain  lion and the 
latest updates. Is there a help menu within the feature? Are you also familiar 
with the rate of accuracy within the app?

Pam Francis

On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:13 PM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:

Yes to both questions so long as you are running Mountain Lion. I believe
you may need to activate the feature in the systems preference I don't
recall if it was the default when I set up mountain lion. 

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Hi folks, this is a feature, I am not familiar with. I have seen it in
system preferences. My question is this, will it work on any text
boxes/iMessage? Will it repeat what it has written? Thanks for any help.

Pam Francis

On Feb 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:

You need to be certain you are interacting with the edit field vo shift down
arrow, then tap the FN key twice you should get the same type of tone you
get when activating dictation on any of the I devices speak your peace then
double tap the FN key again. That should do it. 

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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:41
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

Hi when I log onto my Twitter client Searness, I go to the edit field to
tweet, and I press function key twice, and nothing happens.
On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Brandon Olivares 
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> Can you explain what you mean?
> 
> God bless,
> Brandon Olivares
> Azavia Technologies
> ZCaptcha - The Captcha Reader
> 
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>> Siri
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Re: Zoom text for Mac

[ppowells09]

Hello,
I think if there were enough low vision users to contact Apple accessibility 
and ask for different color combinations
Within their zoom product,  There would be no need for  Third-party vendors to 
develop a nap. We as low vision users/screen reader users Need to be our own 
advocate for technology that will help us. Apple will listen, if there are 
enough of us who  will make the requests. If not, they will assume their 
product is satisfactory, or we take them for granted. As we all know, if and 
when something or someone is taken for granted, for long enough, it goes away. 
We all have to be in direct communication with the accessibility department, to 
help steer them in directions that will better affect our means to use their 
products thereby allowing us to advertise for them.
Pam Francis

On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

I'm going to play the cynic here, and ask, just what does ZoomText offer that 
Zoom does not?  I'll be happy to read somewhere, but WILL NOT install a demo 
without answers first, as I too, am fully satisfied with Zoom, and it's ability 
to work in conjunction with VoiceOver.  Jmo. 

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On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Pam Francis  wrote:

> Hi  
> I hope my comments werenot construed as being ungrateful. I am primarily a 
> voiceover user, though do have the vision to use screen magnification to find 
> elements on the screen voiceover doesn't seem to want to read. I have found 
> Apple's own screen magnification to work quite nicely. I did look at the app. 
> Fortunately, it will also run with voiceover running. I hope Apple can take 
> take some ideas from a couple of features with zoom text. At times, it is 
> helpful to have different color combinations. Yes, I do contact 
> accessibil...@apple.com with suggestions.all,  
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
>> Considering that Apple continues to score record breaking profits with its 
>> product line, cost cutting  is not likely a major issue just now.
>> still have people broached the screen maganification factor with apple 
>> accessibility directly?
>> I honestly figured that it already existed in some form.
>> Those I know who use zoom text for windows use its screen readability too, 
>> so I tend to doubt they could simply come in without following the developer 
>> root Apple requires for mac work.
>> Just a guess though.
>> Karen
>> 
>> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Thanks for your kind response. I understand Zim text is not a screen reader 
>>> per se. I use a combination of speech and screen magnification. My concern 
>>> is with the idea that Apple would allow someone else into their API 
>>> therefore allowing a third-party vendor to take over their accessibility 
>>> for which they have done quite well. As a friend of mine stated earlier 
>>> today, everyone is looking to cut costs somewhere. Conceivably Apple could 
>>> be looking at excess ability as a Means of attempting to cut costs of their 
>>> product. I pray that is not the case. Be at screen magnification or speech, 
>>> I certainly do not want to go back to the world of SMA agreements with 
>>> third-party vendors. If AI squared can make a product that is an adjunct to 
>>> what Apple offers rather than a direct competitor, I have no problem. 
>>> However if it is the first step of taking over accessibility in one form or 
>>> another I have an issue.
>>> 
>>> Pam Francis
>>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Tom Frank  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ZoomText is not a screen reader, and as there questions and answers state, 
>>> they have no interest in making a screen reader for the Mac.
>>> 
>>> AI squared only makes products for low vision users. Their Windows products 
>>> include some text to speech features, but, no matter what, you need some 
>>> vision to navigate.
>>> although Voice Over is fantastic, Apple has not done a very good job on 
>>> Screen magnification software. Therefore, I believe there is a definite 
>>> void for third party developers to fill.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Frank Tom
>>> vermont...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Pam Francis  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi folks,
 I also downloaded the file. It seems to work, yet needsa little work with 
 reference to its layout. Not sure how I feel about 3rd party developers 
 getting in to the mac OS with referenced to Apple seems to do an admirable 
 job thus far. I am afraid if 3rd party developers are allowed in to their 
 API, it will be the death of mac accessibility as we know it. We will be 
 expected to pay outrageous prices for screen readers as has been the norm 
 on the windows side.accessibility.
 On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Tom Frank  wrote:
 
> I downloaded Zoomtext successfully last night and t

Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[ppowells09]

Hi folks,
I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility for 
state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill out the 
paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I can sign it. 
However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read snail  mail. To 
my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the Mac. Not sure if their 
version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please help?

Pam Francis

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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[ppowells09]

Thank you for all of the good suggestions. I have a question with reference to 
the type of form. Are there forms that will not lend themselves to be filled 
out on the computer regardless of whether one has adobe acrobat or not? I have 
heard, there are some government forms that are coated in such a way that will 
not permit one to fill them out on the computer. Is this true? Once filled out, 
I can sign them. I just can't see to read them.

Pam Francis

On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

Actually, I was reading some documentation the other day and it mentioned that 
Preview works for editable PDFs.  Open your document in Preview, select Edit 
from within the ToolBar, then select the TextTool from within the Edit ToolBar 
and you should be able to fill out pdf forms.  I tried it on a form I had here 
and it appeared to work fine.  I have heard others on this list complain loudly 
about Preview but it works fine for me.  I usually press cmd-2 to put it into 
"Single Page" mode and it works much better for me that way.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-02-12, at 9:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi Pam
> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until it 
> is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe Acrobat 
> Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on the Mac if 
> you're blind. 
> 
> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
> about this. 
> Regards, 
> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please help?
>> 
>> Pam Francis
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Re: Mouse Navigation Using Voiceover.

[ppowells09]

Hi folks,
Forgive my ignorance. Regarding a previous poster giving instructions to turn 
the trackpad commander off, I have a question. How once the trackpad commander 
is turned off, Will any  movement on the trackpad be detected? I don't 
understand that. Any help you could offer would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

On Feb 13, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

Hello,

yes.  VO command F5 moves the mouse cursor to the VO cursor.  BTW,  In my 
opinion, setting up a trackpad command just to do a right click might not be 
necessary.  Like a person remarked, most of the time, VO shift M will bring up 
the context menu you require.  But, when this doesn't work, you can just turn 
your trackpad commander off, and press control and click your trackpad.  Its 
the same thing as a right click on windows, bring up a context menu for the 
item under the mouse cursor.

hth

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On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Emilio Hernandez  
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I have created a track pad commander shortcut that will perform a 
> "right-mouse click" when I hold the CTRL+two-finger double-tap.
> There is a program in my Doc that I would like to access, but in order to 
> reach some extra menus the manual suggests the aforementioned mouse option.
> Does a method exist with voiceover that would allow me to move the 
> mouse-pointer to the voiceover cursor? I am aware of of SHIFT-CTRL-OPTION-F5, 
> which will allow me to rout the voiceover cursor to the mouse-pointer, but I 
> would like to perform the opposite behavior with the hope of my track pad 
> shortcut giving me access to some extra menus.
> 
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Re: Do not download new slacker radio update

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Hello,
I too am a slacker subscriber. I pay for the premium membership. And definitely 
not a fan of the new layout. It would not take much to make all of their  
buttons work. I will never understand why the vendor of a subscription app 
feels the need to totally rearrange the layout. In my opinion, if it isn't 
broke, don't fix it. I have found through their support  Email system, one gets 
very little response. I eventually found them and have the contact on my phone 
to get to their direct tech support via phone. Their email system seems to 
shoot back automatic computer responses rather than having a human look at what 
the issues are and correct them. That app has been decent for years. There was 
no reason to totally rearrange the layout especially for those of us who can no 
longer reliably use it on iPhone. I agree, the iPad app, seems not to have 
changed. However, if the iPhone app changes, I'm concerned about the changes 
they will make in their  iPad app. It would be a real shame to lose that 
service. 

Pam Francis

On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Carlene Knight  wrote:


> Do not download the new slacker radio update for the iPhone. Most of the 
> buttons will not speak   and it tends to lock up. I have reported the 
> problem.  The iPad Update seems to work okay. I don't see much of a change.

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Re: Slacker Radio?

[ppowells09]

If one chooses to subscribe to slacker radio, be at plus,  or premium, you 
don't have all the ads. Premium subscribers, can play entire albums on demand. 
Radio stations, are also more customizable Through a plus or premium 
subscription. Yes, one can download music to one's device, however it is still 
under their rights protection. You do not own it if you do not pay for the 
subscription. Fortunately, the iPad app still works.

Pam Francis

On Feb 14, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:

Thanks Jonathan for your explanation. I love the name for this service, I do 
think it's unfortunate that it is now rather broken.


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 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> Hi Rich, Slacker is a service that offers news, talk and a wide range of 
> musical genres. It's sort of a hybrid between Pandora, regular radio and 
> Spotify. I think the premium service, which I never subscribed to, allows you 
> to store music on your device. Sad to hear it's not as accessible as it once 
> was as I think it's the best of its type.
> 
> Jonathan
> On 15/02/2013, at 2:50 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:
> 
>> I've been called a slacker many times in my life, but I never had a 
>> subscription! Seriously, what is Slacker Radio? What does the service allow 
>> one to do? Now that it no longer functions correctly on the iPhone, I won't 
>> be tempted to subscribe, but my curiosity makes me long to know!
>> 
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Re: Do not download new slacker radio update

[ppowells09]

Yes, with a slacker subscription, you can cash content to your device. Also, 
premium subscribers can listen to a given album on demand if it is within their 
library. Some stations  play songs that are not downloadable due to the rights 
having expired. However one can still add them to a favorite songs station and 
replay them. The iPad app still works.

Pam Francis

On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

I am deeply disappointed about this update. I love Slacker, and do have a 
subscription. I canceled my Pandora subscription, in fact, and switched to 
Slacker, mostly because I like that I can skip songs if I like without a limit. 
With the subscription I have, you can cache content on the phone.
Christine
On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> Oh wow, thanx for the info there, I had no idea there even was an update.  I 
> love their service, but don't have a premium subscription.
> What's the advantage to that aside from being able to listen to a station 
> simply by 1 artist?  I picked out a station for Hannah to listen to 1 night, 
> and next thing I knew, after about possibly 20 minuttes or so, I got an alert 
> message telling me "station exhaustion," which I'd never gotten before, so I 
> thought that was interesting, but that's the only issue I have with it; 
> otherwise, I love it.
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:51 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I too am a slacker subscriber. I pay for the premium membership. And 
>> definitely not a fan of the new layout. It would not take much to make all 
>> of their  buttons work. I will never understand why the vendor of a 
>> subscription app feels the need to totally rearrange the layout. In my 
>> opinion, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I have found through their support 
>>  Email system, one gets very little response. I eventually found them and 
>> have the contact on my phone to get to their direct tech support via phone. 
>> Their email system seems to shoot back automatic computer responses rather 
>> than having a human look at what the issues are and correct them. That app 
>> has been decent for years. There was no reason to totally rearrange the 
>> layout especially for those of us who can no longer reliably use it on 
>> iPhone. I agree, the iPad app, seems not to have changed. However, if the 
>> iPhone app changes, I'm concerned about the changes they will make in their  
>> iPad app. It would be a real shame to lose that service. 
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Carlene Knight  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Do not download the new slacker radio update for the iPhone. Most of the 
>>> buttons will not speak   and it tends to lock up. I have reported the 
>>> problem.  The iPad Update seems to work okay. I don't see much of a change.
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Re: Do not download new slacker radio update

[ppowells09]

I think, if those of us, who used the service, and pay for it, and are left out 
of the most recent update via the iPhone are constructively critical of the 
update to the extent of Directing them to means of making their app accessible 
again, we will have better luck. I will say this much, their email support is 
crap. If one can get through to their customer service and speak to a human, 
they are receptive.  Contact them directly at, 858-943-5000 We can all complain 
 on these lists, to our hearts content, however it will not fix the issue 
unless we deal with them directly. They have to realize, there are means of 
making their app accessible again, therefore including a market that has been 
greatly appreciative of their service.

Pam Francis

On Feb 14, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Carlene Knight  wrote:

Yes I love my premium subscription as well. You would not believe all of the 
albums that I have found on demand. I stream it to my stereo using my airport 
express and it is an incredible service. I canceled my pandora  account as 
well.  If they start messing with the iPad version I will be very upset.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 14, 2013, at 5:56 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> I am deeply disappointed about this update. I love Slacker, and do have a 
> subscription. I canceled my Pandora subscription, in fact, and switched to 
> Slacker, mostly because I like that I can skip songs if I like without a 
> limit. With the subscription I have, you can cache content on the phone.
> Christine
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
>> Oh wow, thanx for the info there, I had no idea there even was an update.  I 
>> love their service, but don't have a premium subscription.
>> What's the advantage to that aside from being able to listen to a station 
>> simply by 1 artist?  I picked out a station for Hannah to listen to 1 night, 
>> and next thing I knew, after about possibly 20 minuttes or so, I got an 
>> alert message telling me "station exhaustion," which I'd never gotten 
>> before, so I thought that was interesting, but that's the only issue I have 
>> with it; otherwise, I love it.
>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:51 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I too am a slacker subscriber. I pay for the premium membership. And 
>>> definitely not a fan of the new layout. It would not take much to make all 
>>> of their  buttons work. I will never understand why the vendor of a 
>>> subscription app feels the need to totally rearrange the layout. In my 
>>> opinion, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I have found through their 
>>> support  Email system, one gets very little response. I eventually found 
>>> them and have the contact on my phone to get to their direct tech support 
>>> via phone. Their email system seems to shoot back automatic computer 
>>> responses rather than having a human look at what the issues are and 
>>> correct them. That app has been decent for years. There was no reason to 
>>> totally rearrange the layout especially for those of us who can no longer 
>>> reliably use it on iPhone. I agree, the iPad app, seems not to have 
>>> changed. However, if the iPhone app changes, I'm concerned about the 
>>> changes they will make in their  iPad app. It would be a real shame to lose 
>>> that service. 
>>> 
>>> Pam Francis
>>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Carlene Knight  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Do not download the new slacker radio update for the iPhone. Most of the 
 buttons will not speak   and it tends to lock up. I have reported the 
 problem.  The iPad Update seems to work okay. I don't see much of a change.
>>> 
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Re: best pandora client for macbook?

[ppowells09]

In the past, I have paid the monthly subscription for Pandora. It continuously 
played for the subscription. It's my experience, it will stop playing after a 
given amount of time if you are not a paid subscriber.

Pam Francis

On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

No problem. :) I agree it is very nice.

One thing with it is that sometimes it'll just stop playing. Simply relaunching 
the application seems to be the only thing that helps.

God bless,
Brandon Olivares
Azavia Technologies
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On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Randy George  wrote:

> Hi Brandon,
> Thank you so much for all of your help with this. I really appreciate your 
> patience and willingness to explain the functionalities. I absolutely love 
> the application. Much better than trying to use the web.
> Thanks again,
> Randy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 13, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
>> You have to interact with the table of stations, and then actually double 
>> click on the station you want to switch to. But you can select a default 
>> station in preferences.
>> 
>> I'm not sure if you know how to double click with VoiceOver, so here's how:
>> 
>> 1. On the station name, press VO-command-function-F5 to move the mouse 
>> curser there.
>> 2. Press VO-shift-space twice quickly.
>> 
>> Also, there are unlabeled buttons, so let me explain those:
>> 
>> The first checkbox is labeled stations. it shows or hides the stations list.
>> 
>> The next checkbox is to play or pause.
>> 
>> The button after that is to skip.
>> 
>> Then you'll usually see the song name and artist, though sometimes it is 
>> hidden. After that is a button for thumbs up, and then another for thumbs 
>> down.
>> 
>> Then you'll see the album name.
>> 
>> Everything is pretty intuitive from there.
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Brandon Olivares
>> Azavia Technologies
>> ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>> 
>> Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd
>> 
>> Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to 
>> give you the kingdom.”
>> 
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>> CLF on Facebook
>> Brandon on Twitter
>> Azavia on Twitter
>> CLF on Twitter
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Brandon, 
>>> 
>>> Ok, one last question for you--how do I switch between my stations?  I can 
>>> see the list of them, but I'm not sure how to activate the station I want.  
>>> The rest of the app totally makes sense to me. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Randy 
>>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 No, you can get it here:
 
 http://dev.kunugiken.com/Pianopub/
 
 God bless,
 Brandon Olivares
 Azavia Technologies
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 On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Randy George  wrote:
 
> Hi There, 
> 
> When i go to the app store and type in pianopub it tells me that there 
> are no search results.  is the app only found online?  
> 
> thanks, 
> randy 
> On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
>> I use an app called Pianopub. It has worked pretty well for me. I wish 
>> there were more keyboard shortcuts, but it is accessible. :)
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Brandon Olivares
>> Azavia Technologies
>> ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>> 
>> Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd
>> 
>> Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good 
>> pleasure to give you the kingdom.”
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Group, 
>>> 
>>> Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but can someone 
>>> recommend a good (hopefully free) pandora app that I can use on my 
>>> macbook?  
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much, 
>>> Randy 
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Re: Editing text

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Hi folks, I have what I hope is not a stupid question. If one is editing text 
on the Mac, why would one want the  text to speak to the right of the cursor? 
The only way I can figure this out, is if one were editing characters from a 
misspelled word. When I used  Windows, along with magic screen magnification 
and it's jaws  counterpart, everything that I wrote was to the left of the 
cursor. Also, does it  matter which mode one is in an Quicknav  to make this 
work 
Thanks for your help. correctly?  

Pam Francis

On Feb 13, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

Hello Eugenia,

Thanks for this. Following Ricardo's message I think I'm getting used to it. 
Now I see the logic, as it hadn't clicked what was going on before my post.

Nice to know I can change it if I can't get used to it.

It won't be long before I completely switch.

Thanks again.

Gena


On 12/02/2013 23:05, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>  Hi there
> The cursor behavior in VoiceOver can be changed if you want to behave like 
> Windows. I haven't done it myself; I just got used to it. If you want to 
> change it, first go to the VoiceOver Utility with VO F8. You will need the FN 
> key maybe if you have a laptop  and haven't changed the behavior of this key. 
> Then go down arrow until you hear Verbosity. Press the tab key. It will 
> probably say Speech. Press right arrow twice until you hear VoiceOver say 
> Text. Press space bar to choose it. Then press the tab key three times until 
> you hear the choice that says "Speak text to the right of the cursor".
> 
> I hope this helps and is not confusing. This will make VoiceOver speak during 
> deletions like you're used to in Windows.
> I just tried this, and I just decided I like it better the way the default 
> is. I'm not used to it any more, so I think I'll change it back.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think this might be a case of you not being use to how the cursor acts on 
>> the Mac.  On the Mac, the cursor position depends on the direction your 
>> navigating in.  If navigating to the right, the cursor is located to the 
>> right of the last character or word spoken by Voiceover.  If moving to the 
>> left, the cursor is located to the left of the last character or word spoken.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I'm struggling to have fluent cursor tracking. Whether it's the mail app, 
>>> pages or safari's search field. It seems VO is not reporting the cursor 
>>> position correctly. As there are several ways of using VO i.e. VO cursor 
>>> locked to cursor, locked to mouse etc. How do I get the best cursor 
>>> tracking when editing text?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Gena
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Re: Editing text

[ppowells09]

Hi Alex,
Thank you for your excellent description. Yes sir, it does make sense. Not many 
can offer a description in a way that one can picture in his head and apply it 
to the computer. Truly appreciate it.  thank you

Pam Francis

On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Quicknav must be off to do much editing, which is why I tend to leave it off 
almost all of the time.

The cursor is not like on windows; I find it easiest to think of the insertion 
point as being between two characters, rather than under any character. As you 
arrow along, vo reads out which character (or word) the cursor passed to get to 
its new location. So, take the word "apple". If you start at the a and arrow 
right, you would hear "a" as the cursor passed under the a to settle between 
the a and the p. Another press of right arrow reads "p", because the cursor 
went past the first p to land between the two Ps in the word. Next you'd hear 
another p, then an l, then an e. Arrowing left will read the e again, since the 
cursor backs up, passing the e to get between it and the l. Hopefully this 
makes more sense.
On Feb 14, 2013, at 2:58 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi folks, I have what I hope is not a stupid question. If one is editing text 
> on the Mac, why would one want the  text to speak to the right of the cursor? 
> The only way I can figure this out, is if one were editing characters from a 
> misspelled word. When I used  Windows, along with magic screen magnification 
> and it's jaws  counterpart, everything that I wrote was to the left of the 
> cursor. Also, does it  matter which mode one is in an Quicknav  to make this 
> work 
> Thanks for your help. correctly?  
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Feb 13, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Eugenia,
> 
> Thanks for this. Following Ricardo's message I think I'm getting used to it. 
> Now I see the logic, as it hadn't clicked what was going on before my post.
> 
> Nice to know I can change it if I can't get used to it.
> 
> It won't be long before I completely switch.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
> On 12/02/2013 23:05, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> Hi there
>> The cursor behavior in VoiceOver can be changed if you want to behave like 
>> Windows. I haven't done it myself; I just got used to it. If you want to 
>> change it, first go to the VoiceOver Utility with VO F8. You will need the 
>> FN key maybe if you have a laptop  and haven't changed the behavior of this 
>> key. Then go down arrow until you hear Verbosity. Press the tab key. It will 
>> probably say Speech. Press right arrow twice until you hear VoiceOver say 
>> Text. Press space bar to choose it. Then press the tab key three times until 
>> you hear the choice that says "Speak text to the right of the cursor".
>> 
>> I hope this helps and is not confusing. This will make VoiceOver speak 
>> during deletions like you're used to in Windows.
>> I just tried this, and I just decided I like it better the way the default 
>> is. I'm not used to it any more, so I think I'll change it back.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think this might be a case of you not being use to how the cursor acts on 
>>> the Mac.  On the Mac, the cursor position depends on the direction your 
>>> navigating in.  If navigating to the right, the cursor is located to the 
>>> right of the last character or word spoken by Voiceover.  If moving to the 
>>> left, the cursor is located to the left of the last character or word 
>>> spoken.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello All,
 
 I'm struggling to have fluent cursor tracking. Whether it's the mail app, 
 pages or safari's search field. It seems VO is not reporting the cursor 
 position correctly. As there are several ways of using VO i.e. VO cursor 
 locked to cursor, locked to mouse etc. How do I get the best cursor 
 tracking when editing text?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Do not download new slacker radio update

[ppowells09]

Hi Matthew,
There are two tiers Of slacker subscriptions.
The plus subscription, $3.99 per month. The premium subscription is $9.95 per 
month. The premium subscription, allows you to play albums/songs on demand, 
create and save your own stations With more control over what artists are on 
them. I believe on all levels you have access to ESPN radio, and ABC news. Go 
to www.slacker.com and check it out. If I have given the site in error, Google, 
slacker radio. 

Pam Francis

On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, matthew Dyer  
wrote:

How much is a  subscribsion to slacker radio?  I just screated an account but 
with the app not sure how to listen to an aboum or what have you.  I did play 
around with the nnew version and ho[pe they can get it fixed soon.

Matthew


On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Carlene Knight wrote:

> My husband who is cited says the layout looks nicer and it is easier to use. 
> I'm assuming you don't have to go into the menu to do different things but it 
> sure messes it up for us.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:14 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Yes, with a slacker subscription, you can cash content to your device. Also, 
>> premium subscribers can listen to a given album on demand if it is within 
>> their library. Some stations  play songs that are not downloadable due to 
>> the rights having expired. However one can still add them to a favorite 
>> songs station and replay them. The iPad app still works.
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am deeply disappointed about this update. I love Slacker, and do have a 
>> subscription. I canceled my Pandora subscription, in fact, and switched to 
>> Slacker, mostly because I like that I can skip songs if I like without a 
>> limit. With the subscription I have, you can cache content on the phone.
>> Christine
>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh wow, thanx for the info there, I had no idea there even was an update.  
>>> I love their service, but don't have a premium subscription.
>>> What's the advantage to that aside from being able to listen to a station 
>>> simply by 1 artist?  I picked out a station for Hannah to listen to 1 
>>> night, and next thing I knew, after about possibly 20 minuttes or so, I got 
>>> an alert message telling me "station exhaustion," which I'd never gotten 
>>> before, so I thought that was interesting, but that's the only issue I have 
>>> with it; otherwise, I love it.
>>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:51 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 I too am a slacker subscriber. I pay for the premium membership. And 
 definitely not a fan of the new layout. It would not take much to make all 
 of their  buttons work. I will never understand why the vendor of a 
 subscription app feels the need to totally rearrange the layout. In my 
 opinion, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I have found through their 
 support  Email system, one gets very little response. I eventually found 
 them and have the contact on my phone to get to their direct tech support 
 via phone. Their email system seems to shoot back automatic computer 
 responses rather than having a human look at what the issues are and 
 correct them. That app has been decent for years. There was no reason to 
 totally rearrange the layout especially for those of us who can no longer 
 reliably use it on iPhone. I agree, the iPad app, seems not to have 
 changed. However, if the iPhone app changes, I'm concerned about the 
 changes they will make in their  iPad app. It would be a real shame to 
 lose that service. 
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Carlene Knight  
 wrote:
 
 
> Do not download the new slacker radio update for the iPhone. Most of the 
> buttons will not speak   and it tends to lock up. I have reported the 
> problem.  The iPad Update seems to work okay. I don't see much of a 
> change.
 
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Re: Do not download new slacker radio update

[ppowells09]

Hi Christine, I spoke to the slacker representatives this afternoon. They say, 
they updated their iPad app before the launch of the iPhone app. They say, they 
took the iPhone app from the ground up, and said they had received complaints 
from those of us with vision issues about usability. We as visually impaired  
subscribers, need to continue to complain to them. To let them know we are out 
there And enjoy their service. They claim, the usability issues were 
overlooked, and will be corrected. I explain to them, their app has been one of 
the most accessible apps for music streaming services one could find. At any 
rate, they say, they know about it, it yet, we need to continue to let them 
know, it's not just a few of us.

Pam Francis

On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

I agree. What I don't understand is why the iPad version is all right and the 
iPhone one is not? I did not realize there was, or could be, such a dramatic 
difference for the same exact app.
Christine

On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:53 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> I think, if those of us, who used the service, and pay for it, and are left 
> out of the most recent update via the iPhone are constructively critical of 
> the update to the extent of Directing them to means of making their app 
> accessible again, we will have better luck. I will say this much, their email 
> support is crap. If one can get through to their customer service and speak 
> to a human, they are receptive.  Contact them directly at, 858-943-5000 We 
> can all complain  on these lists, to our hearts content, however it will not 
> fix the issue unless we deal with them directly. They have to realize, there 
> are means of making their app accessible again, therefore including a market 
> that has been greatly appreciative of their service.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Carlene Knight  wrote:
> 
> Yes I love my premium subscription as well. You would not believe all of the 
> albums that I have found on demand. I stream it to my stereo using my airport 
> express and it is an incredible service. I canceled my pandora  account as 
> well.  If they start messing with the iPad version I will be very upset.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 5:56 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
>> I am deeply disappointed about this update. I love Slacker, and do have a 
>> subscription. I canceled my Pandora subscription, in fact, and switched to 
>> Slacker, mostly because I like that I can skip songs if I like without a 
>> limit. With the subscription I have, you can cache content on the phone.
>> Christine
>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh wow, thanx for the info there, I had no idea there even was an update.  
>>> I love their service, but don't have a premium subscription.
>>> What's the advantage to that aside from being able to listen to a station 
>>> simply by 1 artist?  I picked out a station for Hannah to listen to 1 
>>> night, and next thing I knew, after about possibly 20 minuttes or so, I got 
>>> an alert message telling me "station exhaustion," which I'd never gotten 
>>> before, so I thought that was interesting, but that's the only issue I have 
>>> with it; otherwise, I love it.
>>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:51 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 I too am a slacker subscriber. I pay for the premium membership. And 
 definitely not a fan of the new layout. It would not take much to make all 
 of their  buttons work. I will never understand why the vendor of a 
 subscription app feels the need to totally rearrange the layout. In my 
 opinion, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I have found through their 
 support  Email system, one gets very little response. I eventually found 
 them and have the contact on my phone to get to their direct tech support 
 via phone. Their email system seems to shoot back automatic computer 
 responses rather than having a human look at what the issues are and 
 correct them. That app has been decent for years. There was no reason to 
 totally rearrange the layout especially for those of us who can no longer 
 reliably use it on iPhone. I agree, the iPad app, seems not to have 
 changed. However, if the iPhone app changes, I'm concerned about the 
 changes they will make in their  iPad app. It would be a real shame to 
 lose that service. 
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Carlene Knight  
 wrote:
 
 
> Do not download the new slacker radio update for the iPhone. Most of the 
> buttons will not speak   and it tends to lock up. I have reported the 
> problem.  The iPad Update seems to work okay. I don't see much of a 
> change.
 
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Re: Slacker Radio?

[ppowells09]

Hi Jessica, wish I could help with that one. I don't know I do not have the 
free subscription. However when I did have the free subscription, my skips were 
limited, Yet my listening was not. The differences were if you search for a 
given artist, you got that artist along with any other similar artist, and 
anybody else they chose to throw in there. My guess is the Launch of the new 
iPhone app may have contributed to that issue. You can call them, 858-943-5000 
or email their support. Whatever complaints they get, they claim they are 
sending to their developers. Let's hope so. The iPad app is still functional. 
Also, if you have an older version of the slacker app or have not downloaded 
the new one don't. If you have an older version, synced to your computer from 
your phone and you choose to reinstall it, it will work.

Pam Francis

On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

When did they start doing this thing where they only let you play stations for 
such short periods at a time?  I just noticed this at theh beginning of the 
week, and it drives me up the wall.
On Feb 14, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

> Hi Rich, Slacker is a service that offers news, talk and a wide range of 
> musical genres. It's sort of a hybrid between Pandora, regular radio and 
> Spotify. I think the premium service, which I never subscribed to, allows you 
> to store music on your device. Sad to hear it's not as accessible as it once 
> was as I think it's the best of its type.
> 
> Jonathan
> On 15/02/2013, at 2:50 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:
> 
>> I've been called a slacker many times in my life, but I never had a 
>> subscription! Seriously, what is Slacker Radio? What does the service allow 
>> one to do? Now that it no longer functions correctly on the iPhone, I won't 
>> be tempted to subscribe, but my curiosity makes me long to know!
>> 
>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
>>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
>> richr...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Do not download new slacker radio update

[ppowells09]

Hi Jessica To my knowledge, you get six skips per hour. I'm not sure if that is 
per station. Also, to Matthew, Look for I believe it is create a 
station/playlist in the main navigation pain on the left hand side of the iPad 
app. I'll help however I can. It's very intuitive. very  easy.  

Pam Francis

On Feb 15, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

How many skips do you get with a free acount?  I've never exhausted mne, as 
opposed to spotify/IHeart radio, but have been really careful not to do that 
though, and really like their selections compared to spotify, and the fact that 
you can ban a certain song without having to ban the whole artist.

On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:44 AM, matthew Dyer wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have an account will think about  upgrading.  Apparently you can get 
> unlimited skipping.  I am still trying to figure out how to create a new 
> station.  Thabnks.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:26 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi Matthew,
>> There are two tiers Of slacker subscriptions.
>> The plus subscription, $3.99 per month. The premium subscription is $9.95 
>> per month. The premium subscription, allows you to play albums/songs on 
>> demand, create and save your own stations With more control over what 
>> artists are on them. I believe on all levels you have access to ESPN radio, 
>> and ABC news. Go to www.slacker.com and check it out. If I have given the 
>> site in error, Google, slacker radio. 
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, matthew Dyer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How much is a  subscribsion to slacker radio?  I just screated an account 
>> but with the app not sure how to listen to an aboum or what have you.  I did 
>> play around with the nnew version and ho[pe they can get it fixed soon.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Carlene Knight wrote:
>> 
>>> My husband who is cited says the layout looks nicer and it is easier to 
>>> use. I'm assuming you don't have to go into the menu to do different things 
>>> but it sure messes it up for us.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:14 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, with a slacker subscription, you can cash content to your device. 
 Also, premium subscribers can listen to a given album on demand if it is 
 within their library. Some stations  play songs that are not downloadable 
 due to the rights having expired. However one can still add them to a 
 favorite songs station and replay them. The iPad app still works.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Christine Grassman  
 wrote:
 
 I am deeply disappointed about this update. I love Slacker, and do have a 
 subscription. I canceled my Pandora subscription, in fact, and switched to 
 Slacker, mostly because I like that I can skip songs if I like without a 
 limit. With the subscription I have, you can cache content on the phone.
 Christine
 On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
> Oh wow, thanx for the info there, I had no idea there even was an update. 
>  I love their service, but don't have a premium subscription.
> What's the advantage to that aside from being able to listen to a station 
> simply by 1 artist?  I picked out a station for Hannah to listen to 1 
> night, and next thing I knew, after about possibly 20 minuttes or so, I 
> got an alert message telling me "station exhaustion," which I'd never 
> gotten before, so I thought that was interesting, but that's the only 
> issue I have with it; otherwise, I love it.
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:51 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I too am a slacker subscriber. I pay for the premium membership. And 
>> definitely not a fan of the new layout. It would not take much to make 
>> all of their  buttons work. I will never understand why the vendor of a 
>> subscription app feels the need to totally rearrange the layout. In my 
>> opinion, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I have found through their 
>> support  Email system, one gets very little response. I eventually found 
>> them and have the contact on my phone to get to their direct tech 
>> support via phone. Their email system seems to shoot back automatic 
>> computer responses rather than having a human look at what the issues 
>> are and correct them. That app has been decent for years. There was no 
>> reason to totally rearrange the layout especially for those of us who 
>> can no longer reliably use it on iPhone. I agree, the iPad app, seems 
>> not to have changed. However, if the iPhone app changes, I'm concerned 
>> about the changes they will make in their  iPad app. It would be a real 
>> shame to lose that service. 
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Carlene Knight  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Do not download the new sla

Re: iOS 6 Disappointment!

[ppowells09]

Hi folks, I think Apple is finally catching up to the idea there is competition 
for its products. It is not the boutique high-end product line as it once  was, 
even though it likes to think it is.  Though it is still a quality product, 
there are tech companies catching up in quality in a real hurry and doing it 
cheaper. I think Apple knows this, that's why they feel the need to have 
multiple releases Withany year rather than their annual release as they used 
to. I only hope Accessibility is not thrust to the side in the process. 
However, even the newer android tablets, have  really good accessibility. We 
are going to have to accept, it is no longer Steve jobs Apple. He would never 
have allowed the flaws That have come in the products since his passing. 
Give it a couple of years, Apple will be just like Panasonic or any other 
household name, hopefully, also at their prices. If not, other companies will 
pass them by. That is sad to say, however it is reality in the marketplace.

Pam Francis

On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Kerri  wrote:

Yo are right but go figure: I would get into IOS just when things start going 
wrong. lol.
On 2013-02-15, at 6:31 PM, Carlene Knight  wrote:

> I have to admit that it is pretty amazing how Apple products have speech 
> built in. I can use my iPhone and iPad like anyone else. I think sometimes 
> Apple and others try to release too many features at once  and don't make 
> sure they all work correctly first. They get in a hurry. Let me point out 
> that it is not just Apple   who does this.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 11:59 AM, "J.P."  wrote:
> 
>> Agreed Chris... I tend to think Stebe is rolling over in his grave with some 
>> of this. No disrespect to the dead!
>> 
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Re: Do not download new slacker radio update

[ppowells09]

Hi Matthew,
Having spoken to them the day the app launched, they say they have received 
numerous complaints about numerous bugs, some  dealing with accessibility some 
not. If you by chance have an older version of the app sync to your computer, 
you can put that version back on your phone, it will work. They are passing any 
complaints they get to their developers. Please feel free to call them at 
858-943-5000 or email their support page.

Pam Francis

On Feb 16, 2013, at 10:10 AM, matthew Dyer  
wrote:

Hi,  I do n0ot have an ipad.  Thanks.  I really do hope they will fix the 
accessibility of the iphone app.

Matthew


On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:25 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi Jessica To my knowledge, you get six skips per hour. I'm not sure if that 
> is per station. Also, to Matthew, Look for I believe it is create a 
> station/playlist in the main navigation pain on the left hand side of the 
> iPad app. I'll help however I can. It's very intuitive. very  easy.  
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> How many skips do you get with a free acount?  I've never exhausted mne, as 
> opposed to spotify/IHeart radio, but have been really careful not to do that 
> though, and really like their selections compared to spotify, and the fact 
> that you can ban a certain song without having to ban the whole artist.
> 
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:44 AM, matthew Dyer wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have an account will think about  upgrading.  Apparently you can get 
>> unlimited skipping.  I am still trying to figure out how to create a new 
>> station.  Thabnks.
>> 
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:26 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Matthew,
>>> There are two tiers Of slacker subscriptions.
>>> The plus subscription, $3.99 per month. The premium subscription is $9.95 
>>> per month. The premium subscription, allows you to play albums/songs on 
>>> demand, create and save your own stations With more control over what 
>>> artists are on them. I believe on all levels you have access to ESPN radio, 
>>> and ABC news. Go to www.slacker.com and check it out. If I have given the 
>>> site in error, Google, slacker radio. 
>>> 
>>> Pam Francis
>>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, matthew Dyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How much is a  subscribsion to slacker radio?  I just screated an account 
>>> but with the app not sure how to listen to an aboum or what have you.  I 
>>> did play around with the nnew version and ho[pe they can get it fixed soon.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Carlene Knight wrote:
>>> 
 My husband who is cited says the layout looks nicer and it is easier to 
 use. I'm assuming you don't have to go into the menu to do different 
 things but it sure messes it up for us.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:14 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
 
> Yes, with a slacker subscription, you can cash content to your device. 
> Also, premium subscribers can listen to a given album on demand if it is 
> within their library. Some stations  play songs that are not downloadable 
> due to the rights having expired. However one can still add them to a 
> favorite songs station and replay them. The iPad app still works.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> I am deeply disappointed about this update. I love Slacker, and do have a 
> subscription. I canceled my Pandora subscription, in fact, and switched 
> to Slacker, mostly because I like that I can skip songs if I like without 
> a limit. With the subscription I have, you can cache content on the phone.
> Christine
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> 
>> Oh wow, thanx for the info there, I had no idea there even was an 
>> update.  I love their service, but don't have a premium subscription.
>> What's the advantage to that aside from being able to listen to a 
>> station simply by 1 artist?  I picked out a station for Hannah to listen 
>> to 1 night, and next thing I knew, after about possibly 20 minuttes or 
>> so, I got an alert message telling me "station exhaustion," which I'd 
>> never gotten before, so I thought that was interesting, but that's the 
>> only issue I have with it; otherwise, I love it.
>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:51 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I too am a slacker subscriber. I pay for the premium membership. And 
>>> definitely not a fan of the new layout. It would not take much to make 
>>> all of their  buttons work. I will never understand why the vendor of a 
>>> subscription app feels the need to totally rearrange the layout. In my 
>>> opinion, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I have found through their 
>>> support  Email system, one gets very little response. I eventually 
>>> found them

Re: Navigating through long message threads in WhatsApp

[ppowells09]

Hello,
This might be a cumbersome process, however, can you go through the messages, 
select them, copy them to a note?  You should be able to get all of your 
messages into the  notes app, therefore emailing it to yourself or sending it 
to your computer.

Pam Francis

On Feb 18, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:

Hi.

Several friends and associates correspond with me using WhatsApp.  I have an 
iPhone 4S and, although the interface isn't comfortable for me, it is important 
that I stay in touch with these people.

In one particular situation, I do not wish to erase any of the dialogue I am 
having, because this person's communication with me is a partial chronicling of 
a friendship that is very, very important in my life.  So here's my question:

Since I am loathe to erase a single message in this particular thread, how can 
I quickly get to the message that this person most recentlysent to  me?  
Whenever I click on this person's name, WhatsApp takes me to the beginning of 
the message thread, and I have thus far found no reliable way to get to the end 
of the thread, i.e. to the message most recently sent.  I know that WhatsApp 
has a feature that lets you clear the messages, but without knowing whether or 
not this also deletes the thread, I won't invoke the feature.  So in summary, 
how do I quickly get to the end of a thread?  A three-finger flick-up advances 
me a few messages at a time, but I am wondering if there is a quicker way to 
get right to the most recent message sent. Is there a way to export an entire 
message thread to a file?  I have looked at the settings, but I have struck out 
thus far.

Kindest regards to all and thanks,

Mike

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Re: Using facebook on a mac

[ppowells09]

Though  the iPhone app is not perfect, it has made a few   strides. I searched 
for my son for example, whose name is not common, His name came up in the 
search results and told me how many mutual friends he had.

Pam Francis

On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

I've been noticing that a lot myself.  I use the mobile site, and even now have 
a lot of trouble searching and the like, and even more trouble with the IPhone 
app.
 I can search for someone using the IPhone app, but when I find someone, it 
won't tell me if they have any mutual friends, just shows the person's name, 
then a link to conferm then, which is a huge inconvenience for me, considering 
the fact that "Amanda Smith," is a really comon name, for example, just to 
throw a name out there.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

> I use it on my MacBook. It is reasonably usable, though not ideal. I use 
> "search" a lot to get to where I want to be. I have used Facebook 
> considerably less over the past year; it just isn't a friendly place for 
> screen readers.
> Christine
> 
> On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:52 PM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
> 
>> Hey gang,
>> Has anyone used the facebook mobile sight on a mac?  aI know that on the PC
>> side, the mobile sight was all screwed up.  It looked ormal on internet
>> exploer, and was completely screwed up on firefox.  Wondering if anyone ahs
>> tried it on a mac yet?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jed
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Re: Yorufukurou Trouble

[ppowells09]

Hi folks,
I recently installed this program on my Mac. Are the  help files 
self-explanatory, or is there a good guide to learn how to use this program 
successfully?

Pam Francis

On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

When you say you deleted the preferences, what exactly did you delete... I mean 
like... what files, and where were they located exactly?  I know the .app file, 
but I mean aside from that?

Chris Gilland.
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Subject: Re: Yorufukurou Trouble


Nope, never had this problem. Only thing I can think of is maybe looking around 
in ~/library for any psettings files for yorufukurou; not sure if deleting the 
app always rids you of these settings.

On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Jane  wrote:

> Every time I try to re-open Yorufukurou, I get a notice saying that it quit 
> unexpctedly while trying to open windows. No matter if I hit the button to 
> open them or not, it continues to crash.  I deleted the app and its prefs. I 
> re-installed the app. I have tried rebooting. I am running Mountain Lion.  
> Does anyone have suggestions for this?
> 
> Jane
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Re: MLB spring training games

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Pardon my ignorance,
Given the fact the games are available on game day audio, why mess with the 
video player on the computer? The TV broadcasts are not what they used to be. 
It's geared more for vision is for real sportsman ship and listening/watching.

Pam Francis

On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:35 AM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

first, make sure adobe flash is installed and up to date.
Then go to www.mlb.tv.
Log in with your email address and password.
At the top of the page, you will find a link that says watch/listen.  Click 
this.
press control option I to bring up the item chooser.
Type the call letters of the station you want.
it should come right up.  if not, you may have to arrow down once or twice to 
find it.
press enter once to set focus to that station.
press enter a second time and the player window will pop up.
Wait about 30 seconds and your game should start.

Hope this helps,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2013-03-01, at 8:28 AM, Tim Mehok  wrote:

> Hi,
> Anyone using a Mac and listening to spring training games?
> If so, let me know how you got it working.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
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Re: MLB spring training games

[ppowells09]

I quit messing with the spring-training games on my computer years ago. I use 
the app. Much easier to navigate.

Pam Francis

On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:00 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

Dano what to tell you.  The player is in flash and won't even show up on your 
computer unless you have flash installed.  our feelings about it make no 
difference one way or the other, but at least there are hotkeys, as well as a 
stand alone version with accessible controls, and the audio quality is a 
significant improvement over the old silverlite version.  may'z well not wine 
about it and get on with the game.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2013-03-02, at 3:39 PM, Tim Mehok  wrote:

> I was hoping that I would not have to install Flash...
> Not real fond of Adobe.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
> On 3/1/13, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> Hi, These instructions were for game day audio.
>> 
>> I just assumed that's what was being asked for.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the
>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2013-03-01, at 11:10 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Pardon my ignorance,
>>> Given the fact the games are available on game day audio, why mess with
>>> the video player on the computer? The TV broadcasts are not what they used
>>> to be. It's geared more for vision is for real sportsman ship and
>>> listening/watching.
>>> 
>>> Pam Francis
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:35 AM, erik burggraaf 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> first, make sure adobe flash is installed and up to date.
>>> Then go to www.mlb.tv.
>>> Log in with your email address and password.
>>> At the top of the page, you will find a link that says watch/listen.
>>> Click this.
>>> press control option I to bring up the item chooser.
>>> Type the call letters of the station you want.
>>> it should come right up.  if not, you may have to arrow down once or twice
>>> to find it.
>>> press enter once to set focus to that station.
>>> press enter a second time and the player window will pop up.
>>> Wait about 30 seconds and your game should start.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the
>>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2013-03-01, at 8:28 AM, Tim Mehok  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 Anyone using a Mac and listening to spring training games?
 If so, let me know how you got it working.
 
 Thanks,
 Tim
 
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Re: MLB spring training games

[ppowells09]

Hi folks,
If I'm not mistaken, the money you pay for the app, also get you access through 
your computer. I don't think they charged twice. Login to your MLB account with 
your username and password and take advantage of the subscription on your 
computer or phone.

Pam Francis

On Mar 2, 2013, at 6:45 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

I hardcore want this for my android phone.  It's perfectly accessible and 
streamlined and to be honest, I'm out when the came is on quite a lot.  It's 20 
bucks for the app though, are you kidding me?  Essentially double the price of 
a subscription just for mobile device support.  It's really outrageous.

Best,
Erik Burggraaf
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ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
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On 2013-03-02, at 6:33 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> I quit messing with the spring-training games on my computer years ago. I use 
> the app. Much easier to navigate.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:00 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Dano what to tell you.  The player is in flash and won't even show up on your 
> computer unless you have flash installed.  our feelings about it make no 
> difference one way or the other, but at least there are hotkeys, as well as a 
> stand alone version with accessible controls, and the audio quality is a 
> significant improvement over the old silverlite version.  may'z well not wine 
> about it and get on with the game.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2013-03-02, at 3:39 PM, Tim Mehok  wrote:
> 
>> I was hoping that I would not have to install Flash...
>> Not real fond of Adobe.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>> 
>> On 3/1/13, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>>> Hi, These instructions were for game day audio.
>>> 
>>> I just assumed that's what was being asked for.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the
>>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2013-03-01, at 11:10 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
 Pardon my ignorance,
 Given the fact the games are available on game day audio, why mess with
 the video player on the computer? The TV broadcasts are not what they used
 to be. It's geared more for vision is for real sportsman ship and
 listening/watching.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:35 AM, erik burggraaf 
 wrote:
 
 first, make sure adobe flash is installed and up to date.
 Then go to www.mlb.tv.
 Log in with your email address and password.
 At the top of the page, you will find a link that says watch/listen.
 Click this.
 press control option I to bring up the item chooser.
 Type the call letters of the station you want.
 it should come right up.  if not, you may have to arrow down once or twice
 to find it.
 press enter once to set focus to that station.
 press enter a second time and the player window will pop up.
 Wait about 30 seconds and your game should start.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the
 ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2013-03-01, at 8:28 AM, Tim Mehok  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> Anyone using a Mac and listening to spring training games?
> If so, let me know how you got it working.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
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Re: Accessing the Emoji Keyboard on the Mac

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Hi,
I am curious, about the same issue. I have successfully been able to do 
iMessage on my Mac with Emoji navigating to  :-) picker. I was not aware there 
were other imaging beyond the smiley picker. I know iOS has many. If you can 
please explain in more depth as to how to get to them other then the smiley 
picker, I would appreciate it thank you

Pam Francis

On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

Greetings:

Someone was asking recently how to access the Emoji keyboard, and other special 
characters. It is done by pressing command+option+T in messages, which will 
then reveal the special characters. You can choose from the categories table, 
"Emoji" and proceed to the other tables to get more specific. You can also 
search for what you wish to send in the toolbar. once you've found what you 
wish to send, press vo+space on it, and enter will send it.
Source:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/tips/comments/using-emoji-in-messages-on-os-x/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
I've not found that the Mac will read them, Voiceover just says "group" but it 
will read them on an iDevice.
HTH,
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Re: mail shortcuts

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I guess I am a total idiot when it comes to mail. Yes, I read & respond, 
however, I was not aware of keyboard shortcuts to get to a given mailbox. I 
have searched for a keyboard shortcut to send mail without navigating  to the 
toolbar. It has almost been easier to correspond on my  phone.

Pam Francis

On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Mark Baxter  wrote:

Just as command 1 is the shortcut to the inbox, command 2 through 0 can be 
shortcuts to other mailboxes.  I"m not quite clear on how to arrange them such 
that a certain command numeral brings you to a certain one, but they're all 
there. :)


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Re: mail shortcuts

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Thank you Stacy.  Hope I didn't sound too ignorant.

Pam Francis

On Mar 9, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

To send mail, simply press command shift d when ready to send.

On Mar 9, 2013, at 3:50 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> I guess I am a total idiot when it comes to mail. Yes, I read & respond, 
> however, I was not aware of keyboard shortcuts to get to a given mailbox. I 
> have searched for a keyboard shortcut to send mail without navigating  to the 
> toolbar. It has almost been easier to correspond on my  phone.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Mark Baxter  wrote:
> 
> Just as command 1 is the shortcut to the inbox, command 2 through 0 can be 
> shortcuts to other mailboxes.  I"m not quite clear on how to arrange them 
> such that a certain command numeral brings you to a certain one, but they're 
> all there. :)
> 
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Re: mail shortcuts

[ppowells09]

Hi folks,
I really am grateful for all on this list. All of you seem to be willing to 
help someone without judging. In our ever changing world of technology any help 
is priceless.
Thank you. I sincerely hope to be one day a contributor as muchas I am a reader.

Pam Francis

On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Carlene Knight  wrote:

I have found numerous shortcut keys just by looking at the menu bar.  It's a 
great learning tool.  Hope that helps.

Sent from my iPad

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> Command N will start a new message without having to go to the tool bar.  
> Your not an idiot and shouldn't imagine or project yourself that way.
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a solitaire game for those who are blind

[ppowells09]

Does anyone know if there is  an accessible version of solitaire for either 
windows or mac? If so, what site?

Pam Francis

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Re: a solitaire game for those who are blind

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I have a friend who is a windows user, who I am attempting to convert. Until 
then, He is looking for a solitaire game he can use with jaws. If you know of 
one, please post the link so I can forward it to him.
Regards,

Pam Francis

On Mar 15, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

I was wondering if there was a solitare game for the mac as well, considering 
the fact that I've become adicted to the Spider solitare game that came with 
Vista, but have stopped using my pc and will be selling it, and will not be 
putting Windows on my mac just to play that.
On Mar 15, 2013, at 5:58 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is  an accessible version of solitaire for either 
> windows or mac? If so, what site?
> 
> Pam Francis
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Re: Rabbit TV

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I would stay away from that thing for several reasons. 1. If it sounds to good 
to be true, it probably is. Most of that crap I have seen may offer many 
channels, how many of them could you understand? You are better off subscribing 
to hulu, or netflix. Run the other way from scams like that & any other ones 
like it.

Pam Francis

On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Juliette  wrote:

Hi guys,
I was just reading about something on the internet called Rabbit TV.  Has 
anyone heard of this and would know whether or not it is a scam?  Apparently it 
is supposed to be a USB drive that you plug into your computer and it gives you 
access to thousands of TV streams for only $10.  I am just curious if anyone 
has heard of it and knows whether it would be accessible with a screen reader. 
It supposedly works on both Mac and PC.

Thanks,
Juliette

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Re: 2 feature requests for iOS and voiceover

[ppowells09]

Hello all,
I know there is at least 1 blind person working in retail for Apple. It would 
make sense to have those who use the software to be in tech support to help 
others. 

Pam Francis

On Mar 21, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:

Peter,

I have spoken with the Accessibility team a bit.  Here is some background.  The 
Accessibility team as we know it currently is actually like a tier 2 support 
level.  These are the guys who have to know everything.  One thing nneded to be 
suggested to Apple is that they need to hire blind people as accessibility 
experts this would help move tickets up?  I actually asked about blind people 
being on the accessibility team and there are none so here is our time to stomp 
our feet so to speak and get blind people jobs as well as get people in the 
Accessibility department who uses these features every day.  You may give 
feedback at:

www.apple.com/feedback

On 3/21/13 7:18, Peter Durieux wrote:
> Dear,
> 
> First of all, congrats with all the accessibility work Apple has done over 
> the last few years.
> With this email I'd like to ask 2 really needed features on Ios related to 
> VoiceOver.
> It should be nice that those will be passed along the responsible departments.
> 
> The features that I request are already implemented on Osx, so it shouldn't 
> be a deal breaker to get those also work in Ios.
> 
> Across the world, people usage more languages on a daily basis. Therefore 
> wouldn't it be great to have more then one high quality voice.
> For example, I'm using Siri a lot to do some daily tasks. But reviewing a 
> webpage or reading a book, I'll use my native language (Dutch).
> Unless I jailbreak my device, I'm not able to get the dutch high quality 
> voice.
> I'm not a fan of jailbreaking my device, I really relay on it.
> 
> The second feature I would like to suggest is that we can make some profiles 
> like we know on Mountain Lion. When I read content in an other language, I 
> need to slow down the speech rate.
> On Osx I've created some activity "read to me in English slow", so I can 
> switch easily.
> 
> From what I've heard of other blind ios users, they also want such a feature 
> be implemented.
> 
> On a side note, since the introduction of the nuance voices on Osx, there is 
> a text-to-speech bug in some language for reading email addresses, url's and 
> file with the file extension.
> This bug was also in ios4 and get fixed in ios5.
> Either in the upgrade from Lion to Mountain lion, the bug is still there.
> This is also reported to accessibl...@apple.com 
>  several times.
> We all hoping to see a fix in an upcoming update.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Kind regards,
> 
> -Peter Durieux
> 
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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: twitter client for the mac

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Hi Tammy, I had similar issues when I installed this program. I got a good 
explanation from a fellow lister. I saved it. Here it is. Hope it helps.

When you start it, the focus should be on your main timeline (once you log in 
of course). From there, use cmd-right or left to move through your timelines 
(home, mentions, DMs, favorites). Up and down arrows will read tweets, provided 
Quicknav is off, and for all other commands, have a look through the dropdown 
menus, specifically the tweet and timeline menus. You will also wanto to open 
preferences with cmd-comma, go to the compose tab, and disable the username and 
hashtag autofill options.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:18 PM,ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I recently installed this program on my Mac. Are the  help files 
> self-explanatory, or is there a good guide to learn how to use this program 
> successfully?
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> When you say you deleted the preferences, what exactly did you delete... I 
> mean like... what files, and where were they located exactly?  I know the 
> .app file, but I mean aside from that?
> 
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
> - Original Message - From: "Steve Holmes" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:46
> Subject: Re: Yorufukurou Trouble
> 
> 
> Nope, never had this problem. Only thing I can think of is maybe looking 
> around in ~/library for any psettings files for yorufukurou; not sure if 
> deleting the app always rids you of these settings.
> 
> On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Jane  wrote:
> 
>> Every time I try to re-open Yorufukurou, I get a notice saying that it quit 
>> unexpctedly while trying to open windows. No matter if I hit the button to 
>> open them or not, it continues to crash.  I deleted the app and its prefs. I 
>> re-installed the app. I have tried rebooting. I am running Mountain Lion.  
>> Does anyone have suggestions for this?
>> 
>> Jane
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On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:01 AM, "Tammy"  wrote:

Hi,
 
Oh that’s great!  Thanks so much. 
 
Tammy
From: Rachel Feinberg
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: twitter client for the mac
 
Night owl should alert you if you have the boxes checked for new tweets, DM's, 
and mentions. It's also nice as the notification center will alert you to at 
least DM's and mentions.
Is your quick Nav of

Re: Keyboard Commander

[ppowells09]

Hi folks, 
I hope this does not sound too elementary. On both my mac & ios devices, I hear 
voiceover say elypsis. What does it mean? Is there any way to turn it off if it 
is not needed? 
Thanks,

Pam Francis

On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:46 AM, ROD SKENE  wrote:

Thanks, iTunes did just that the first time I opened it with option I. I would 
have not known why. Interestingly, it only did it the first time I used 
keyboard commander to open it.  second time it opened right up.
Thanks,
Rod

On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Red.Falcon  
wrote:

> Hi there!
> One that might be effected is when you open iTunes and hold the right option 
> key down that would give you the window to choose which library you would 
> like to use!
> That also was a problem setting up a commander for iTunes with just the right 
> option key!
> Sometimes when you went to open iTunes with your shortcut  the choose library 
> window would open!
> Instead of iTunes itself!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 26 Mar 2013, at 15:17, ROD SKENE  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys for 
>> keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option 
>> key by itself as a modifier.
>> Thanks,
>> Rod
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Re: Elypsis

[ppowells09]

Hi,
Until I got my mac, I never heard my screen reader actually say elypsis. I had 
no idea what it was or what I could do to turn it off as it is annoying. I am 
still not sure what its purpose is other than your explanations. It sounds as 
if it is synonymous with etc.

Pam Francis

On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:07 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

I think she meant specifically what an elypsis was, and how to make it/what it 
looked like visually, more than what they meant.
- Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Keyboard Commander


> Hello Pam,
> 
> When a menu item ends with an ellipsis, it means that by selecting that 
> option, a dialogue box will open. So it is in fact informative.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 26 Mar 2013, at 19:05, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I hope this does not sound too elementary. On both my mac & ios devices, I 
>> hear voiceover say elypsis. What does it mean? Is there any way to turn it 
>> off if it is not needed?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Pam Francis
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Re: Elypsis

[ppowells09]

Thanks to all.
I hope I did not hijack your topic. However I am certainly grateful for the 
explanations. This list has helped to satisfy my minimal requirement for myself 
with respect to learning something new every day. 
Blessings,

Pam Francis

On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Esther  wrote:

Hi,

In writing, an ellipsis is used as an "an intentional omission".  The
detailed text can be omitted either for reasons similar to the one Pam
gives, where the writer doesn't want to go on listing details, or
because the content of the quoted text is familiar, and the writer
doesn't want to quote it in its entirety, such as CB's example in
giving the opening words of the Gettysburg address.  It can have the
sense that Chris uses, of there being more content that follows (which
for reasons of length are not described).  In written essays,
articles, or reviews, you might use an ellipsis where you're quoting a
source, but are omitting parts that are secondary to the main point
being made.

You can't turn this feature off in VoiceOver, because it's giving you
information that is part of the menu options, but you can always press
the Control key to keep VoiceOver from announcing the whole phrase.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Mar 26, 4:34 pm, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> I think it's more like "continues." If I were quoting some speech I
> might have "Four score and seven years ago…" with the ellipsis to let
> you know there is more. Likewise a menubar item like "Preferences…" has
> the ellipsis to let you know that you're not going to get immediate
> action because there is more interaction to be presented in a dialog.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 3/26/13 10:30 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> Until I got my mac, I never heard my screen reader actually say elypsis. I 
>> had no idea what it was or what I could do to turn it off as it is annoying. 
>> I am still not sure what its purpose is other than your explanations. It 
>> sounds as if it is synonymous with etc.
> 
>> Pam Francis
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:07 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
> 
>> I think she meant specifically what an elypsis was, and how to make it/what 
>> it looked like visually, more than what they meant.
>> - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Keyboard Commander
> 
>>> Hello Pam,
> 
>>> When a menu item ends with an ellipsis, it means that by selecting that 
>>> option, a dialogue box will open. So it is in fact informative.
> 
>>> Cheers,
> 
>>> Anne
> 
>>> On 26 Mar 2013, at 19:05, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
 Hi folks,
 I hope this does not sound too elementary. On both my mac & ios devices, I 
 hear voiceover say elypsis. What does it mean? Is there any way to turn it 
 off if it is not needed?
 Thanks,
> 
 Pam Francis

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Re: Strange problem with iPhone 4 S

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Hi folks,
I don't know, GG if you have any vision, however, I do have some, though not 
much. As your phone runs down or is charging, A box in the center of the screen 
when it is locked gives a visual rectangle showing battery percentage. When it 
gets below 20% it changes color. My theory is that it is running on its reserve 
much like your mac would when its battery is down, it will tell you it is on 
reserve power. My ipad II & my 4S do the same as you describe when their 
battery is nearly dead. Hope this helps.

Pam Francis

On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Hi.

I had another strange problem with my I phone 5 the other day, it would not 
charge plugged in so I had to let it run down and when I plugged it in again, 
it was fine.

Kawal. 

On 27 Mar 2013, at 02:33 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> I have had my iPhone for S do something weird twice, once today and wants 
> yesterday. I had gotten the low battery at 20%, and I ignored it. I figured I 
> was going to go down to 10% and then plug it in. I was lazy, and I didn't 
> want to get up out of my chair. However, my iPhone when I got to around 13% 
> never made it to 10%. Voiceover said and he was in the middle of saying the 
> word malfunction I think. All of a sudden, my iPhone was dead. I tried Plett 
> pressing the PowerKey five times, and that didn't work. I tried pressing the 
> power key and the home key together, and that didn't work either. So, I 
> plugged in the charger, and after about 30 seconds or so for a minute, 
> voiceover came back on and everything was fine. Has anybody had this happen 
> with an iPhone 4S?
> Regards,
> GG
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Re: Program Question.

[ppowells09]

Hi Anita, 
This is a very helpful guide to getting started with voiceover directly from 
the apple website. It will introduce you to voiceover along with basic OS10 
commands. Hope it helps.

http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html

Pam Francis

On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:15 PM, "anita"  wrote:

Hi List,
Does each Program on Mac computerbe customizable? For example, the amount 
of verbosity spoken? How do I maximize a Program window?
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Re: Mac getting started.

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Mike,
I have never seen this website till today. I checked it out, though I am no 
longer a true beginner, I still learned from it. I bookmarked it & hope you 
will update as needed. Thank you for taking the time & performing a needed 
service.

Pam Francis

On Apr 1, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Mike  wrote:

If your new to the Mac  and check out this website. It might be able to help 
you out. I have posted a lot of tutorials for beginners on the Mac and if 
there's anything else you need to know just let me know.
http://htb2.com/tutorials/mac/http://htb2.com/tutorials/mac/

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I am a Mac newbie too, as I just got my MacBook Air on Wednesday.  I've 
> downloaded David's podcasts to my iPhone and am currently working my way 
> through them.  I've also saved as favorites on my iPad various resources from 
> the web that I can have nearby when using my Mac.  
> 
> Although not a iDevice newbie, I am a Mac newbie, but decided to make the 
> jump as I do like Apple's ecosystem  I have some vision, so I use voiceover 
> the majority of the time but do use magnification sometimes while using my 
> iPad and probably will on the Mac as well.  Unfortunately, I use such a high 
> magnification that it's useless to me on the phone.
> 
> I hope to learn a lot from this list as I have the iPhone list, hoping to one 
> day be able to contribute.  
> 
> Katey  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Mar 30, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
>> Perhaps a more up-to-date and also more easily digestible set of podcasts 
>> are those done by David Woodbridge of Vision Australia. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Tim Mehok  wrote:
>> 
>>> Brandt,
>>> I would go to blindcooltech.com and check the older podcasts of Mike Arrigo.
>>> 
>>> He did  a series of Mac tutorials on Voice Over and although they were
>>> done a while ago, they still act as a good starting place.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/29/13, Brandt's Gmail  wrote:
 Hi there list,
 My fiancé is getting her macbook pro very soon. She has no Mac experience 
 at
 all. Where can I find her a set of getting started tutorials, preferably in
 podcast format?
 
 Thanks so long.
 
 Typed using Fleksy.
 reply://brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows

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Hi Shannon, To my knowledge, no one has mentioned the learning curve involved 
when changing systems. What does your wife use her computer for? Also, does she 
have the time to emerse herself in a new system for the sake of truly learning 
to use it? I have both a mac & windows machine. I spent most of my computer 
life on DOS & Windows. However, after losing my mom almost 2 years ago, I used 
the time on my hands to really get educated on the mac OS & have not regretted 
it. There are pros & cons to both systems depending on the primary use of one's 
computer along with the time one has. Good luck with your decision, welcome to 
the list.

Pam Francis

On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

I don't think you will ever win the game of trying to figure out when the next 
MacBook will come out, especially since Apple seems to be less predictable 
about the timing of new product releases then they used to be. I purchased my 
MacBook last November and I expect to remain content with it for quite some 
time. I would say go ahead and purchase now if that is in fact what you decide 
to do. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hello all,
> Again thanks so much for all your prompt responses on this issue.  The 
> last thing I guess we have to ask is just if anyone knows how mac goes about 
> their releases of computers since I know the newest macbook pro currently is 
> almost a year old.  If anyone knows their typical releasing of computers or 
> if they have a specific regular timeframe than we could think about holding 
> out if the new macbook is coming out relatively soon.
>  
> Take care,
> Shannon Gerdts
>  
> From: Maria & Joe Chapman
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
>  
> HI.  Yes, I was going to point  out how well the mac and Ios devices 
> integrate with the mac.  Not to mention in my oppinion itunes and vo work 
> much better than itunes and jaws or nvda.  I did try to use nvda full time 
> just before  I switched but the tts didn't sound right not when using sapi.  
> I also think as time goes on there will be more and more accessible 
> programmes for the mac.   
> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> twitter: bubbygirl
> skype: bubbygirl1972
>  
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> On 04/04/2013, at 6:52 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Well, if you have iOS devices there are more advantages, since things like 
>> contacts, notes, calendars, and more sync to all your devices. You can, for 
>> instance, do a lot of typing in reminders or contacts on the mac, and then 
>> the changes will appear on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch.
>> 
>> I'll not talk about the other advantages of the Mac, since they are 
>> basically the same for sighted and blind users so any Gogle search can give 
>> you more than I could think of. I will mention the cost of screen readers, 
>> though: vo is free, whereas most Windows screen readers cost money. However, 
>> the free NVDA screen reader nullifies this point somewhat.
>> 
>> I still don't like browsing the web on the mac as much as on windows, but I 
>> have grown used to it. Still, I like the windows approach to the internet 
>> much more (well, technically, I like windows scree readers' approaches to 
>> it). Aside from that, and having less hotkeys in dialogs (balanced by the 
>> ability to assign custom hotkeys to items in the dropdown menus), I can't 
>> think of disadvantages except, of course, the price.
>> 
>> I use both Bootcamp and a virtual machine solution, so both avenues are open 
>> to you assuming you have a license key for your copy of windows. I'm not 
>> suggesting you have an illegal copy, I'm saying you will need the 
>> 25-character code to re-authorize your copy of windows if you want it to 
>> work normally. You can find isos of Windows online and use them, but they 
>> will expire and you could run into some problems if that happens. The 
>> bootcamp vs vm debate is also something I will not get into here, as it has 
>> little to do specifically with the blind and so information you find online 
>> will apply to you as much as anyone else.
>> 
>> If you have additional questions, let me know.
>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>>> I'm a new subscriber as of today and would like to ask this direct question 
>>> without getting a lot of elitest Mac/Windows mentalities.  What I mean by 
>>> this is I would love to get some feedback from you guys on the list about 
>>> an unbiased bit of feedback on your experiences with the Mac.  I also would 
>>> like to know what you guys have experienced as being pros to the switch 
>>> from a windows machine to that of a  Mac system as well as cons if there is 
>>> any.  Have any of you used boot camp or another way of running windows 
>>> successfully on

Accessibility is fixed in slacker radio iphone app.

[ppowells09]

There was a recent update to the slacker radio app. After breaking 
accessibility in their redesign of the app, they finally  fixed it. I am 
grateful enough people were constructively assertive & let them know we are a 
market to be considered. In their app description, they specifically say, 
improved voiceover support.
Regards,

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Re: Accessibility is fixed in slacker radio iphone app.

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I know the feeling. Have been a subscriber for a while. When they broke 
accessibility in their redesign, They got an email & phone call from me. At the 
time, I think they were guaging response. I don't think they realized how many 
of us use their service whether paid or free. They were bombarded with email. 
However, they told me at the time it was an oversight. Whether I buy that I 
don't know. I do know, I follow them on twitter, & thanked them for fixing 
accessibility.

Pam Francis

On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

Indeed.
Pretty happy. Was going to unsubscribe, even wrote them and said that they were 
losing a paying Canadian customer, and lookie, new update with fixed 
accessibility.
Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692

On 2013-04-10, at 10:58 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> Finally! Thanks for the update.
> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:43 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> There was a recent update to the slacker radio app. After breaking 
>> accessibility in their redesign of the app, they finally  fixed it. I am 
>> grateful enough people were constructively assertive & let them know we are 
>> a market to be considered. In their app description, they specifically say, 
>> improved voiceover support.
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Pam Francis
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Re: Accessibility is fixed in slacker radio iphone app.

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Slacker offers the ability to casche content to your device for offline 
enjoyment with a subscription. It is also more customizable than Pandora.

Pam Francis

On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

Having used both I found more artists with slacker than Pandora.
Slacker is more accessible and is $10 a month for unlimmited skips and arist 
only playlists.
Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692

On 2013-04-10, at 12:18 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> So, what is the main difference in Slacker vs. Pandora?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> Indeed.
>> Pretty happy. Was going to unsubscribe, even wrote them and said that they 
>> were losing a paying Canadian customer, and lookie, new update with fixed 
>> accessibility.
>> Matt
>> Sent from my mac
>> Twitter: matt692
>> 
>> On 2013-04-10, at 10:58 AM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Finally! Thanks for the update.
>>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:43 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
 There was a recent update to the slacker radio app. After breaking 
 accessibility in their redesign of the app, they finally  fixed it. I am 
 grateful enough people were constructively assertive & let them know we 
 are a market to be considered. In their app description, they specifically 
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Re: To Let My Computer Sleep or Not

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I have had similar questions, most of which have been answered. However, when 
disabling sleep, is there a general button that disables all sleep? From what I 
have seen in the pane to which you refer, one must disable or extend time for 
hard drive or screen separately. If there is a general way to do this with one 
checkbox, where is it?

Pam Francis

On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

That helps a lot. Thanks for the thorough explanation. One would think you were 
an AT trainer or something. :-)

Take care.

JP
On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:46 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

>  You can disable this behavior in System Preferences in the Security and 
> Privacy pane by disabling the need for a password when the computer wakes 
> from sleep.  However, this tends to be a user call based on your environment. 
>  I use my computers at home, so I don't feel a PW is needed to wake the 
> systems.  However, if you are taking a laptop to work or school, it might be 
> practical to leave it at the default behavior.
> 
>  Letting your computer go to sleep automatically is an entirely different 
> debate.  I personally have it set so that I have to manually put my systems 
> to sleep.  However, that is my choice.  Some feel it's better to let the 
> computer go to sleep when not in use to save power and such.  I will manually 
> put mine to sleep if I know I will be away from them for a time.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
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>> Greetings, all,
>> 
>> Currently, after about ten minutes or so, I have to log back into my account 
>> when using my Mac. I assume the computer goes into something equivalent to 
>> screen saver mode, but I'm not certain. of that. I am curious as to whether 
>> it is a good idea to keep the computer set this way, or change the behavior. 
>> I will anxiously await some lively debate on this  question.
>> 
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Re: To Let My Computer Sleep or Not

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Hi Robert,
The mac app to which you referred, Does it affect any other running 
applications? Also, does it load by default? How does it interface with system 
preferences in general?

Pam Francis

On Apr 29, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

Very cool. I will keep that in mind. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi,
> 
> If you want to get a bit geeky, there is a very cool app in the Mac app store 
> called "Should I Sleep." It allows you to configure how your Mac decides 
> whether or not to sleep. For example, you can set it not to sleep if you are 
> downloading or uploading files. You can have it check for the presents of a 
> face or sounds and not sleep if it sees you sitting at the computer. You can 
> also check or uncheck a single check box to keep the computer always awake.
> 
> The app puts itself in the menu bar and is fully VoiceOver accessible if you 
> are running Mountain Lion.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
>> Greetings, all,
>> 
>> Currently, after about ten minutes or so, I have to log back into my account 
>> when using my Mac. I assume the computer goes into something equivalent to 
>> screen saver mode, but I'm not certain. of that. I am curious as to whether 
>> it is a good idea to keep the computer set this way, or change the behavior. 
>> I will anxiously await some lively debate on this  question.
>> 
>> Thanks and take care.
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

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It's about time they came to the party. We all know how resistant Amazon has 
been to making their services accessible to us. Forgive my conspiracy theory 
attitude,  there had to be some pressure from somewhere other than the blind 
community as a whole. We as a community have managed through constructive 
action & dialog  to gain accessibility in many areas other than Amazon's 
services & devices. I have cautious optimism that it is a new beginning for 
Amazon & accessibility.

Pam Francis

On May 1, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Jane  wrote:

Not from within the Kindle app, You have to go to the Amazon site.

Jane





On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:

> Wow  guys, this is cool.
> Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't find an
> option to do that. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
> 
> And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
> Christine
> 
> On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Haha. Hi,
>> 
>> I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed with
> the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
> continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
> Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover gestures
> you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this was
> a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out yet
> -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the
> Nook app?
>>> 
>>> Christine
>>> On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
> Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitte
 r&utm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: how do I fine tune in slacker?

[ppowells09]

Hi Christina,
On the latest update to the slacker app, you have 4 tabs along the bottom of 
the app. They are from left to right as you are holding your phone vertically 
as follows, related artists, favorites, popular songs, & newer songs.
When you double tapp a given tab, there is a slider about the end of your 
finger's length that opens. It opens to a default progress indicator for each 
given tab. Moving the slider to the right increases, to the left, decreases the 
type of music you want played within that open tab. My best suggestion would be 
to tap the slider, it will tell you what its progress is. Turn off vo & play 
with it until you get it the way you want it. It will mean turning vo on & off 
a couple of times, however, is very doable. At least they made this update for 
the phone accessible again.
Hope this helps.
Regards,

Pam Francis

On May 1, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Christina C.  wrote:

Hi is there a trick for the fine tune feature of radio stations in slacker. I 
get how to get to the area but there is a slider I'm supposed to adjust and I 
can't get it to work. I have tried the double tap and hold but that has been 
hit and miss. The flicking up and down doesn't slide the slider.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: an accessible way to install flash

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I went to the adobe site directly & installed it with no issues. I didn't want 
to either, yet there is still to much material out there requiring flash. I 
hope it goes away soon.

Pam Francis

On May 11, 2013, at 4:21 AM, Garth Humphreys  wrote:

I prefer not to install Flash directly and instead use Google Chrome for web 
browsing that requires Flash.


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On 11/05/2013, at 11:08 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Hi all.
> I was just wondering, what's an easy and accessible to install javascript and 
> flash player to watch youtube videos or to use mactubes.
> Thanks.
> Matt.
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date & time in icloud

[ppowells09]

Hi list,
I hope someone can either help me or tell me I am nuts.
I have a friend who is trying to set time zone & location settings in icloud.
He is not much of a cloud person, however he set it up in order to use the find 
my iphone feature & find my mac.
I can't find anything in icloud preferences that relates to date & time, though 
he said it was there. I looked in system preferences & checked out sharing. Can 
anyone please tell me how to help him straighten out his time zone & location 
using voiceover? Currently, it is set to pacific & cupertino. He lives in 
Florida.

Pam Francis

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Re: date & time in icloud

[ppowells09]

I certainly appreciate your help. I didn't see anything in icloud either, nor 
do I remember having to set a time one in icloud when I set up my account to 
turn on find my iphone & find my mac. 
Thanks much.

Pam Francis

On May 24, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

I'm thinking that he may just be a little confused.  I've never noticed 
anything of the sort within the iCloud pane of System Prefs nor do I remember 
anything like that in previous versions of the pane.  Normally, when you enable 
the Find My Mac component of iCloud, it will ask you if you will allow the 
Location Service to keep track of your Mac and you should click the "Allow" 
button.  By default, many Macs upon initial setup are set to the Pacific Time 
Zone so it is a good idea to go within the Date & Time pane of System Prefs, 
under the Time Zone tab and enter a major city close to you within your 
specific Time Zone.  The Mac will automatically adjust your time and Time Zone 
info when the new city is entered.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-05-24, at 8:08 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi list,
> I hope someone can either help me or tell me I am nuts.
> I have a friend who is trying to set time zone & location settings in icloud.
> He is not much of a cloud person, however he set it up in order to use the 
> find my iphone feature & find my mac.
> I can't find anything in icloud preferences that relates to date & time, 
> though he said it was there. I looked in system preferences & checked out 
> sharing. Can anyone please tell me how to help him straighten out his time 
> zone & location using voiceover? Currently, it is set to pacific & cupertino. 
> He lives in Florida.
> 
> Pam Francis
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