writing on walls with the new facebook?
hey guys how do you write on someone's wall using safari? now that facebook has changed itself, again, there doesn't seem to be a "write on so and so's wall" link like there used to be!! I can't figure out where it is!! gah I'm so sick of facebook changing!!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 10.5 Leopard
it sure does!! I haven't had to try it yet, thank goodness, but I feel totally confident if the time came when I actually needed to reinstall, I could do it. Kevin made a really great podcast about installing leopard, it's on blind cool tech. On 19-Mar-09, at 3:14 PM, Mike wrote: > > Hi all: > > Just wanted to know, should the time come about and I hope not, knock > on wood, LOL. > Does Leopard provide a speech feed back for installing when 1ST > booting from the OS DVD? > I know when I 1ST powered up my Mac, out of the box, I did receive a > talking prompt to enable a talking setup but what about from an > initial booting process? > I'm also thinking of setting up a duel boot system with 10.5 server > for testing purposes, is this possible? > > Thanks: > > Mike > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ipod v3.0 software
yeah, before I got my Nokia E71, I used a 6620 and talks ran great on that. that phone was solid as a rock, lol! the only reason I switched to the e71 was cuz I got sick of number texting and I wanted to be able to do more stuff like twitter and facebook, lol. but yeah. if talks and mobile speak can run on nokia phones which probably aren't as powerful as the IPhone, I don't see why some kind of voiceover couldn't run on the IPhone. really, I think all they need is a keyboard overlay that could fit over the touch screen somehow. maybe it could be optional? like an IPhone accessory or something? I'm not sure about the inner workings of the IPhone, how much processing power it has to run voiceover, but I'm sure if anyone can do it, apple can. they've been moving forward with accessibility in such a huge way already, the IPhone seems like a natural next step. it may not be in this next generation, but I'm sure it's probably coming. On 19-Mar-09, at 10:37 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > > Good evening, > > I have considered that TTS may be taxing for the processor in a mobile > dvice like the iPhone. However, Talks and Mobile Speak work on Nokia > and Windows Mobile phones so it is certainly possible under some > circumstances. I have a 3 year old Nokia running Talks at the moment > and I'm sure that it doesn't have an amazing processor or much memory. > > HTH, > Everett > > > On 20-Mar-09, at 2:28 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> >> They didn't mention anything in the presentation and you would have >> to >> be part of the developer program to get your hands on the actual API >> documentation to hunt for VO. If you were in the dev program then you >> probably would have NDA restrictions keeping you from sharing what >> is in >> there. That said, I still wonder if the iPhone is simply >> underpowered to >> do TTS? Sure it seems snappy but maybe that's because it has video >> and >> audio co-processors offloading the work for twirling objects and mp3 >> or >> video stream decoding. The actual processor and RAM footpring might >> not >> be up to the task. This could explain the great lengths used to avoid >> multiple concurrent apps and the whole push notification system. >> What if >> they really only had 128MB to work with? >> >> CB >> >> william lomas wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> I hear the iphone 3.0 software is out soon, does it have voice over >>> or >>> anything though, that's the question >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ipod v3.0 software
ooh, really? multi core processors coming ut for the mobile phone? that'sexciting!!! :) yes, this could definitely make a difference!!! see? IPhone accessibility can be done!! On 20-Mar-09, at 5:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Well there are multi-core processes coming out for the mobile phone > and other similar devices. Don't know exactly when, but they are in > the works. This oculd really have some significant impact for the > mobilephone market. > On Mar 20, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> >> They didn't mention anything in the presentation and you would have >> to >> be part of the developer program to get your hands on the actual API >> documentation to hunt for VO. If you were in the dev program then you >> probably would have NDA restrictions keeping you from sharing what >> is in >> there. That said, I still wonder if the iPhone is simply >> underpowered to >> do TTS? Sure it seems snappy but maybe that's because it has video >> and >> audio co-processors offloading the work for twirling objects and mp3 >> or >> video stream decoding. The actual processor and RAM footpring might >> not >> be up to the task. This could explain the great lengths used to avoid >> multiple concurrent apps and the whole push notification system. >> What if >> they really only had 128MB to work with? >> >> CB >> >> william lomas wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> I hear the iphone 3.0 software is out soon, does it have voice over >>> or >>> anything though, that's the question >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ipod v3.0 software
ugh, I wouldn't settle for that old outspoken voice lol!! I remember that thing, back in the day when I was like six or seven my school donated a mac to me and it had outspoken on it!! I never actually learned to use it, I remember my parents clicking on claris works and stuff so I could write, but I remember that horrible voice!!! lol. Fred would be alright, though. On 20-Mar-09, at 9:38 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Alex wouldn't even have to run on these devices, I would gladly settle > for something like the Fred voice or the old macintalk voice that > Outspoken used, anyone remember that? > On Mar 20, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Martin Pilkington wrote: > >> I think it isn't as much a case of the processor not being up to it, >> the processor in the iPhone and iPod touch isn't that much less >> powerful than the lowest processor Tiger could run on. Running Alex >> may require more processing power though. The big issue is >> interaction. There is no physical keyboard and no concept of hover, >> the multi touch screen is very much a look and touch interaction >> model. What would change this somewhat is a haptic feedback screen >> that would let you feel around for buttons. >> >> As for the RAM, the iPhone and iPod touch have 128MB of RAM, but >> developers really only get about 64MB to play around with. >> >> - >> Martin Pilkington >> Writer of Weird Symbols >> pi...@mcubedsw.com >> >> >> On 20 Mar 2009, at 5:28 am, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >>> The actual processor and RAM footpring might not >>> be up to the task. This could explain the great lengths used to >>> avoid >>> multiple concurrent apps and the whole push notification system. >>> What if >>> they really only had 128MB to work with? >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla taking first step in Firefox Accessibility
yes, yes, it's coming!!! I actually talked to thepeople from firefox, saw them at CSUN this week. the first thing I asked them was what they were doing about apple, and they assured me they were working hard at it and that making firefox accessible with voiceover was a huge priority. I'm glad to hear they're telling the truth!!! this is good stuff!! :) On 23-Mar-09, at 12:20 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > Good morning, > > Marco Zehe has posted on his blog at http://www.marcozehe.de/ that > the first step in Firefox accessibility for the Mac has been taken > this week. I'm sure that the journey will be a long one, but it is > good to know that efforts are being made to make Firefox accessible > to Mac users of assistive technology. > > Great and exciting work by Mozilla. > > Everett > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new mac
hey Wendy, welcome to the wonderful world of voiceover like everyone else has said, that's what this list is for, asking questions, so feel free to jump in and I'm sure someone will have the answer!! I've been using my mac for almost a year now, wow!! I came over to the good side last year after participating in a hands on voiceover session at CSUN. after that I knew this was amazing so I convinced my dad to let me do accessibility testing with voiceover for the company he works for, and let's just say the testing isn't exactly ending? haha. I guess technicly it is, I finished my writeup for them months ago but they haven't asked for my beloved mac back yet lol. as for Bible software, I don't know of any software, but I have the old and new testament in text files if you want me to send them over. I'm not sure which version you like, N.I.V is what I like so that's the one I have. but there's always Bible gateway.com. and there probably is software somewhere that I just don't know about!! On 21-Mar-09, at 2:36 PM, Wendy wrote: > Hi I've just b ought a mac and need help in learning how to use. > i've used windows for years but been told using the mac is easy. I > have got a list of short cut keys and so i've been just looking and > getting the feel of the mac and the sound of the voice-over. and > yes, i do know how to turn it on and off lol which is a start. > > From Wendy. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new mac
hey you can find the users guide by pressing command VO f8. VO = control and option held together. when the quickstart guide is on, voiceover is turned off so to return to it press escape to stop quickstart guide and then of course command f5. On 24-Mar-09, at 2:01 AM, Wendy wrote: > ok, so where do i find the users guide please? Thanks,. > > From Wendy. > - Original Message - > From: Mike Arrigo > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:30 AM > Subject: Re: new mac > > Hi, welcome to the list, I'm sure you will enjoy your mac. The first > thing I would probably read is the voice over user's guide, that > should get you started. > - Original Message - > From: Wendy > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 4:36 PM > Subject: new mac > > Hi I've just b ought a mac and need help in learning how to use. > i've used windows for years but been told using the mac is easy. I > have got a list of short cut keys and so i've been just looking and > getting the feel of the mac and the sound of the voice-over. and > yes, i do know how to turn it on and off lol which is a start. > > From Wendy. > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Off Topic: Poll on how to make paper money accessible
dude, I went to that presentation too!!! very, very interesting!!! I can't wait til this becomes available! On 24-Mar-09, at 11:06 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > Well, since we're already somewhat off topic, one of the most amazing > presentations I went to at CSUN was a product called SeeScan from a > company called iVisit. It uses a camera image to do object recognition > based on pictures. In the demo they laid out a bunch of stuff such as > cereal boxes, CDs, US currency and all they did was aim the camera to > have it read off what it was. They ran it on some small computer about > the size of an old-school walkman tape player about 1"x5"x7" and a USB > camera. It apparently can handle differing angles, orientations and > lighting automatically and completes the acquisition and recognition > about 4 times a second. So pretty much as soon as they aimed it at a > $5 > bill it started saying "five dollar bill" over and over until they > aimed > it at something else. It can even handle partially obscured objects > such > as a credit card that is partly under a piece of paper. They tested it > with 10 blind users and had 100% success identifying objects. I asked > them about scalability since I might want to have a whole grocery > store > worth of objects loaded up. They said it can handle about 10,000 > images > in a single database. You can swap out databases and each image takes > about 10K after processing (100MB for 10,000 objects). They are hoping > there will be online community swaps of databases so you can share > what > you've already stored. It can 'learn' a new object in about 4 seconds. > You just aim it at the object and hit the learn button and then > associate some text with the object. The work is being done as part > of a > grant from the US Veterans Admin (I think) so they said once it's > out of > the lab it should be cheap because the research costs don't have to be > recouped by the manufacturer. They also have a client/server version > working with a cell phone camera and a remote processing server. > > Sorry for the off-topic but this was pretty incredible and it seemed > few > people came to their presentation. > > CB > > alena.roberts2...@gmail.com wrote: >> I am taking a poll on my blog on how to make U.S. paper currency >> accessible to the blind. In September of last year, a judge ordered >> the treasury to make the money accessible. As far as I know, there >> has >> been no plans to actually change our money. Please visit my blog and >> vote. The poll will be open until the middle of next month. I plan to >> blog about the results and send them to national blindness >> organizations and the treasury department. I think that they need to >> know what the blind community needs before they make any changes. >> >> http://blind-gal.blogspot.com >> >> Alena >>> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new mac
I remember that excitement!!! I remember I was at my parents' cabin when I learned voiceover. we have dialup internet there so I was bored and was like why not get started with voiceover! lol. so I sat there for two days and listened and tried things and wrote rediculous amounts of questions to this list and soaked it all in, lol. the sites Ben mentioned are good, too. screenless switchers and lioncourt.com. and then there's always apple's main accessibility page, apple.com/accessibility/voiceover On 24-Mar-09, at 11:24 AM, Wendy wrote: > Ok I'm downloading the manual onto my computer and will listen to > some of the demnonstrations. Oooh i'm so excited lol > > From Wendy. > ----- Original Message - > From: Jessi Rathwell > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:14 PM > Subject: Re: new mac > > hey > you can find the users guide by pressing command VO f8. VO = control > and option held together. when the quickstart guide is on, voiceover > is turned off so to return to it press escape to stop quickstart > guide and then of course command f5. > > On 24-Mar-09, at 2:01 AM, Wendy wrote: > >> ok, so where do i find the users guide please? Thanks,. >> >> From Wendy. >> - Original Message - >> From: Mike Arrigo >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:30 AM >> Subject: Re: new mac >> >> Hi, welcome to the list, I'm sure you will enjoy your mac. The >> first thing I would probably read is the voice over user's guide, >> that should get you started. >> - Original Message - >> From: Wendy >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 4:36 PM >> Subject: new mac >> >> Hi I've just b ought a mac and need help in learning how to use. >> i've used windows for years but been told using the mac is easy. I >> have got a list of short cut keys and so i've been just looking and >> getting the feel of the mac and the sound of the voice-over. and >> yes, i do know how to turn it on and off lol which is a start. >> >> From Wendy. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
extracting audio from .avi files?
hey guys I was just looking through a random folder of stuff on my external hard drive and I found a video of a live version of my favourite song ever, "ready for love." by India.Arie. don't ask me how I forgot I had a live version of my favourite song, lol. it was tucked away in a folder called "random music!" haha. shows how organized I am. but oh my gosh, this performance is amazing!!! I *need* it on my IPod I was just wondering if there's a way to extract the audio out of it and convert it to mp3? it's .avi right now. I know you can do this in goldwave on the pc, but I don't wanna boot up my pc if I don't have too. thanks. I can see this moving its way up my top 25 most played in no time!!! so good --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Just waht is "off topic" here
I agree. I don't think it's a huge deal to go through and delete messages. I think we should be mindful of how many offtopic posts we post and the huge majority should be mac stuff, but if there's the odd offtopic post that someone thinks would be interesting to all, especially if it could be related to mac OS10 somehow, I think it should be okay to post it. the delete key is your friend if you don't wanna read something. and in mail, they make it so easy since you can just go to the subject column. On 25-Mar-09, at 8:10 AM, Marshall Scott wrote: > > Hi Folks, > Make it 4 votes. I really don't want another list. I fear that > people will have something that just has to be cross posted to every > list even vaguely related to a topic. I can use the delete key quite > effectively if the subject is not of interest. > Marsh > > On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:11 PM, peter Apgar wrote: > >> >> Motion has been seconded and the vote is being counted. Three yeas . >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tiffany D >> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:15 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Just waht is "off topic" here >> >> >> Agreed. Those of us who use VoiceOver may not be on all the >> technology >> lists and if it's something that benefits us all, I think we should >> hear >> about it. >> >> On 24/03/2009, Greg Kearney wrote: >>> >>> Just what qualifies as "off topic" and can there by bring down the >>> wrath of the moderators here. If I had, for example included a post >>> saying that I had worked out a bill scanner under OS X would that be >>> permitted? I think we could stand to grant some slack here so long >>> as >>> it is somewhat related to VO and the Mac and or similar >>> technologies. >>> >>> >>> Greg Kearney >>> 535 S. Jackson St. >>> Casper, Wyoming 82601 >>> 307-224-4022 >>> gkear...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: extracting audio from .avi files?
Alex, thanks. I've heard so much about audio hijack pro and have never checked it out yet. maybe I'll grab a demo and do this. that seems like the easiest way to do it! and thanks for the belated BDay wishes, hehe. On 25-Mar-09, at 2:23 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > Jessi,, > > Long time no talk. Anywas Audio HighJack Pro Demo does this > wonderfully for things under 10 minutes it is free. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 25-Mar-09, at 1:32 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> hey guys >> I was just looking through a random folder of stuff on my external >> hard drive and I found a video of a live version of my favourite song >> ever, "ready for love." by India.Arie. don't ask me how I forgot I >> had >> a live version of my favourite song, lol. it was tucked away in a >> folder called "random music!" haha. shows how organized I am. >> but oh my gosh, this performance is amazing!!! I *need* it on my >> IPod I was just wondering if there's a way to extract the audio >> out of it and convert it to mp3? it's .avi right now. I know you can >> do this in goldwave on the pc, but I don't wanna boot up my pc if I >> don't have too. >> thanks. I can see this moving its way up my top 25 most played in no >> time!!! so good >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Just waht is "off topic" here
agreed, Chris. well said. On 25-Mar-09, at 10:32 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > I'm certainly guilty of being off topic and worthy of the ban. At the > same time I'd like to think some lenience for off topic posts which > have > broad appeal to this list's readership has some positive benefit to > the > community. For myself this is one of the few public mailing list I > subscribe to. So I both appreciate and try to support some level of > contributions that are not necessarily Mac/VO related. That said, I am > not really as interested in reading about new Windows or Jaws features > via this list. My expectation is that the content will be at around > 90% > Mac/VO and the rest general accessibility related. Strict > enforcement of > Mac/VO topics control may be impossible on one hand and possibly > detrimental on the other. > > CB > > Cara Quinn wrote: >>Hi Greg, well you answered your own question. :-) Anything Mac- >> related is certainly on topic. >> >> I'm sure sorry you feel like this is 'wrath' but I've gotten *many* >> requests / complaints from list members whom pay for bandwidth, or >> have limited time in which to read list mail, but whom would really >> like to stay on the list for it's informational value. However, a >> lot >> of the more 'chatty' messages really get in the way for them. >> >> So far these people constitute the majority of whom I'm hearing >> from, so I need to take that as the general list consensus. >> >> This is, afterall, your list. If you all said Cara, I want a chat >> list, then that's what this would be, and I'd never even consider >> posting the kind of thing I did earlier. -But that's not what you're >> saying to me. the list is saying that there is too much traffic that >> isn't relevant, so that's what I'm trying to address as list >> moderator. Does this make sense?… >> >> So, since this is currently the case, when someone deliberately >> posts something that they, themselves have even labeled as 'Off >> Topic,' considering that I've posted very nice / polite requests >> numerous times, I then feel that a post like my earlier one is >> warranted. I most certainly don't want to ban anyone nor do I want >> this list to become a tyrannical place which no one enjoys. :-) >> what's the fun in that? >> >> However, if I keep asking nicely yet people keep feeling that it >> doesn't apply to them and go on posting notes they're kindly asked >> not >> to, then I'm not left with much choice in the matter, yes?… >> >> In order for this list to work well together, we need to have at >> least some respect for eachother and awareness that not everyone has >> the same access to plentiful internet time, nor do we all have the >> same sorts of leisurely schedules in which to lazily read vast >> amounts >> of email. So since we're all different, we just need to find a good >> consensus we can come to, that's all… >> >> Now, you do raise a really good point in the sense of asking >> exactly what and what is not on-topic, since I'm planning to edit the >> Welcome message if needed, so I'll try to be as clear as I can. I >> certainly don't want there to be any ambiguity and I certainly don't >> want anyone to feel they need to worry about what they're posting. >> >> Anyway, I hope this helps answer the question, and I wish you / >> yours a lovely evening!… >> >> Smiles, >> >> Cara :) >> --- >> View my Online Portfolio at: >> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >> >> On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Greg Kearney wrote: >> >> >> Just what qualifies as "off topic" and can there by bring down the >> wrath of the moderators here. If I had, for example included a post >> saying that I had worked out a bill scanner under OS X would that be >> permitted? I think we could stand to grant some slack here so long as >> it is somewhat related to VO and the Mac and or similar technologies. >> >> >> Greg Kearney >> 535 S. Jackson St. >> Casper, Wyoming 82601 >> 307-224-4022 >> gkear...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: extracting audio from .avi files?
ooh, free and the exact thing I need it for! heck yeah!!! googling this!!! thanks!!! On 25-Mar-09, at 1:42 PM, Yvonne Thomson wrote: > > I've actually done quite a bit of this. What I always use is a free > program called MPEG Streamclip > > It's basically got an export to audio command that's perfect for this > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Mac man in town!
hey Tom, welcome to the group!! it's good to see you here, another GDB lounge member!! :) I hope you enjoy your mac!!! I'm sure you will, I've been enjoying mine for the past year!!! feel free to ask if you have any questions, but I'm sure it won't be hard for you to learn the basics and you'll be on your way in no time!! On 26-Mar-09, at 8:03 AM, Tom K wrote: > > Hi all, I just bought a Mac mini used with a 2.0 processor, 2 gig of > ddr3 > ram, its running Lepard, and much more. I'm waiting for it to get > here so I > can have fun trying to learn how to use it. Lets hope I can do it > without > losing all my hair! "Big Grin!" > > Tom K. > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Problem with IJournal
weird. I haven't had any problems with iJournal. the only times I have problems with it are when livejournal's server is down which happens sometimes as we all know lol. but when lj is up, I've found iJournal to be a very stable program. On 30-Mar-09, at 9:11 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > I've had the same issue. > > Force Quit IJounal has done the trick or "Sudo killall ijournal" works > too. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 30-Mar-09, at 6:55 PM, Tiffany D wrote: > >> >> I'm having this problem with IJournal. It started about two days >> ago. >> It won't log me in. I usually don't have to enter my information >> cause it stores it and when I hit the log-in button it works. But >> now, when I hit the same button it gets stuck and even force quit >> finder won't end the program. I have to reboot the machine. I went >> to >> cashes, library and application support and prefence pains and >> deleted >> all things thatrelated to IJournal and then redownloaded and >> reinstalled it. Somehow, it remembered my username and started doing >> the same thing all over again. I use this program not only for >> writing in my lj but for working on my Greek lessons. I keep my work >> in there while it's still in progress and the actual lesson from the >> page in Text Edit. That way I don't have to deal with playing with >> the webpage and keeping cursor tracking off so I don't lose my place. >> Plus I know IJournal will save my work should my speech stop. So how >> can I fix this problem with IJournal. And in the meantime, can I >> have >> the name of another text editor so I can work side by side with the >> two documents instead of having to use the window chooser? It's >> totally impractical for my needs. Thanks. >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Problem with IJournal
wow. I've never seen a program crash to the point where you couldn't even use force quit!!! strange!!! mars edit is a good blogging program if you're looking for an alternative, I used to use that before iJournal. On 30-Mar-09, at 10:33 PM, Tiffany D wrote: > > Well, I can't even use force quit on IJournal. It just locks up and > says busy and I can't even get into the menus from there. I've always > thought of it as a stable program too until a few days ago. > > On 31/03/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >> >> weird. I haven't had any problems with iJournal. the only times I >> have >> problems with it are when livejournal's server is down which happens >> sometimes as we all know lol. but when lj is up, I've found iJournal >> to be a very stable program. >> On 30-Mar-09, at 9:11 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've had the same issue. >>> >>> Force Quit IJounal has done the trick or "Sudo killall ijournal" >>> works >>> too. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 30-Mar-09, at 6:55 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I'm having this problem with IJournal. It started about two days >>>> ago. >>>> It won't log me in. I usually don't have to enter my information >>>> cause it stores it and when I hit the log-in button it works. But >>>> now, when I hit the same button it gets stuck and even force quit >>>> finder won't end the program. I have to reboot the machine. I went >>>> to >>>> cashes, library and application support and prefence pains and >>>> deleted >>>> all things thatrelated to IJournal and then redownloaded and >>>> reinstalled it. Somehow, it remembered my username and started >>>> doing >>>> the same thing all over again. I use this program not only for >>>> writing in my lj but for working on my Greek lessons. I keep my >>>> work >>>> in there while it's still in progress and the actual lesson from >>>> the >>>> page in Text Edit. That way I don't have to deal with playing with >>>> the webpage and keeping cursor tracking off so I don't lose my >>>> place. >>>> Plus I know IJournal will save my work should my speech stop. So >>>> how >>>> can I fix this problem with IJournal. And in the meantime, can I >>>> have >>>> the name of another text editor so I can work side by side with the >>>> two documents instead of having to use the window chooser? It's >>>> totally impractical for my needs. Thanks. >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Problem with IJournal
I'm sure you don't, there are very few viruses for mac. I don't have anti virus software either and to be honest I'm not really that concerned about it. maybe that's naive of me, but it seems viruses are something windows users have to deal with more. your iJournal is probably just acting up for whatever reason. have you tried downloading a new DMG file? maybe the one you have is somehow corrupt? On 30-Mar-09, at 11:13 PM, Tiffany D wrote: > > I just hope I don't have a virus or something cause I have no > antivirus software and don't know what's accessible. > > On 31/03/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >> >> wow. I've never seen a program crash to the point where you couldn't >> even use force quit!!! strange!!! mars edit is a good blogging >> program >> if you're looking for an alternative, I used to use that before >> iJournal. >> On 30-Mar-09, at 10:33 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >> >>> >>> Well, I can't even use force quit on IJournal. It just locks up and >>> says busy and I can't even get into the menus from there. I've >>> always >>> thought of it as a stable program too until a few days ago. >>> >>> On 31/03/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>> >>>> weird. I haven't had any problems with iJournal. the only times I >>>> have >>>> problems with it are when livejournal's server is down which >>>> happens >>>> sometimes as we all know lol. but when lj is up, I've found >>>> iJournal >>>> to be a very stable program. >>>> On 30-Mar-09, at 9:11 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I've had the same issue. >>>>> >>>>> Force Quit IJounal has done the trick or "Sudo killall ijournal" >>>>> works >>>>> too. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30-Mar-09, at 6:55 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm having this problem with IJournal. It started about two days >>>>>> ago. >>>>>> It won't log me in. I usually don't have to enter my information >>>>>> cause it stores it and when I hit the log-in button it works. >>>>>> But >>>>>> now, when I hit the same button it gets stuck and even force quit >>>>>> finder won't end the program. I have to reboot the machine. I >>>>>> went >>>>>> to >>>>>> cashes, library and application support and prefence pains and >>>>>> deleted >>>>>> all things thatrelated to IJournal and then redownloaded and >>>>>> reinstalled it. Somehow, it remembered my username and started >>>>>> doing >>>>>> the same thing all over again. I use this program not only for >>>>>> writing in my lj but for working on my Greek lessons. I keep my >>>>>> work >>>>>> in there while it's still in progress and the actual lesson from >>>>>> the >>>>>> page in Text Edit. That way I don't have to deal with playing >>>>>> with >>>>>> the webpage and keeping cursor tracking off so I don't lose my >>>>>> place. >>>>>> Plus I know IJournal will save my work should my speech stop. So >>>>>> how >>>>>> can I fix this problem with IJournal. And in the meantime, can I >>>>>> have >>>>>> the name of another text editor so I can work side by side with >>>>>> the >>>>>> two documents instead of having to use the window chooser? It's >>>>>> totally impractical for my needs. Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Problem with IJournal
hmmm. weird. I have no clue, then!!! On 30-Mar-09, at 11:41 PM, Tiffany D wrote: > > Thank Hermes! I really didn't want to have to deal with a virus. I > downloaded and reinstalled IJournal after deleting it's components etc > and it still did the same thing. > > On 31/03/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >> >> I'm sure you don't, there are very few viruses for mac. I don't have >> anti virus software either and to be honest I'm not really that >> concerned about it. maybe that's naive of me, but it seems viruses >> are >> something windows users have to deal with more. your iJournal is >> probably just acting up for whatever reason. have you tried >> downloading a new DMG file? maybe the one you have is somehow >> corrupt? >> On 30-Mar-09, at 11:13 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >> >>> >>> I just hope I don't have a virus or something cause I have no >>> antivirus software and don't know what's accessible. >>> >>> On 31/03/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>> >>>> wow. I've never seen a program crash to the point where you >>>> couldn't >>>> even use force quit!!! strange!!! mars edit is a good blogging >>>> program >>>> if you're looking for an alternative, I used to use that before >>>> iJournal. >>>> On 30-Mar-09, at 10:33 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, I can't even use force quit on IJournal. It just locks up >>>>> and >>>>> says busy and I can't even get into the menus from there. I've >>>>> always >>>>> thought of it as a stable program too until a few days ago. >>>>> >>>>> On 31/03/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> weird. I haven't had any problems with iJournal. the only times I >>>>>> have >>>>>> problems with it are when livejournal's server is down which >>>>>> happens >>>>>> sometimes as we all know lol. but when lj is up, I've found >>>>>> iJournal >>>>>> to be a very stable program. >>>>>> On 30-Mar-09, at 9:11 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've had the same issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Force Quit IJounal has done the trick or "Sudo killall ijournal" >>>>>>> works >>>>>>> too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Alex, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30-Mar-09, at 6:55 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm having this problem with IJournal. It started about two >>>>>>>> days >>>>>>>> ago. >>>>>>>> It won't log me in. I usually don't have to enter my >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> cause it stores it and when I hit the log-in button it works. >>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>> now, when I hit the same button it gets stuck and even force >>>>>>>> quit >>>>>>>> finder won't end the program. I have to reboot the machine. I >>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> cashes, library and application support and prefence pains and >>>>>>>> deleted >>>>>>>> all things thatrelated to IJournal and then redownloaded and >>>>>>>> reinstalled it. Somehow, it remembered my username and started >>>>>>>> doing >>>>>>>> the same thing all over again. I use this program not only for >>>>>>>> writing in my lj but for working on my Greek lessons. I keep >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>> in there while it's still in progress and the actual lesson >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> page in Text Edit. That way I don't have to deal with playing >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the webpage and keeping cursor tracking off so I don't lose my >>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>> Plus I know IJournal will save my work should my speech >>>>>>>> stop. So >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> can I fix this problem with IJournal. And in the meantime, >>>>>>>> can I >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> the name of another text editor so I can work side by side with >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> two documents instead of having to use the window chooser? >>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>> totally impractical for my needs. Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
strange iTunes problem
hey guys just noticed a strange problem with iTunes 8.1. I typed an artist into the search box and was looking through the songs table, pressing return on what I wanted to hear like normal. sometimes it doesn't switch songs though. like I'll be listening to one and have another one selected, but when I press return on it it doesn't switch. it doesn't happen all the time, just sometimes. it's weird. I also find it a bit slow when I'm just skipping quickly through my library. it seems to be busy more frequently than past versions. other than those two things, I'm liking it so far! currently listening to some John Legend. Jessi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: strange iTunes problem
hmmm. nope, they were just regular mp3s. On 31-Mar-09, at 11:34 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Jessi, are the tracks you're playing, videos?… > > I ask, as you may need to close the video window when this > happens. Once you start playing a video, and pause it, you can bring > up a context menu on it and there should be an option to 'close video > window.' > > If this is the issue, closing this window will allow you to select > another track to play. > > HTH and have a great day!… > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > --- > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > View my Online Portfolio at: > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:26 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > > > hey guys > just noticed a strange problem with iTunes 8.1. > > I typed an artist into the search box and was looking through the > songs table, pressing return on what I wanted to hear like normal. > sometimes it doesn't switch songs though. like I'll be listening to > one and have another one selected, but when I press return on it it > doesn't switch. it doesn't happen all the time, just sometimes. it's > weird. > > I also find it a bit slow when I'm just skipping quickly through my > library. it seems to be busy more frequently than past versions. > other than those two things, I'm liking it so far! currently listening > to some John Legend. > Jessi > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: skype
couldn't you just crank up your volume really loud and have it play and be picked up by the internal mic? may not be the best sound quality on the other side but if you just want someone to hear a song it doesn't have to be perfect lol. or just skype them the file? On 31-Mar-09, at 12:42 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > Last time I tried something like this I ended up running the line out > from the mac to the line in on the mac and selected line in as the > audio > input in the sound control panel. Of course for more control I had an > external mixer to control the levels but even without that should > work. > That said, you can only have on input at a time without a mixer so you > would have to switch from internal mic to line in and back again. > There > is probably a better way with audio hijack, soundflower or the like > but > I've not used them myself. > > CB > > louie wrote: >> Hi all, >> Yesterday I was talking to a friend on skype. I wanted to share a mp3 >> with him. I wanted to play the mp3 and have him hear it. this did not >> work very well. I had to put the mike close to a speaker. Is there a >> way to direct a audio stream into skype? >> thanks for any help. >> >> louie >> louiem...@wavecable.com >> >> >> >> >>> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
podcast question
hey guys I'm having way too much fun with podcasts today. I subscribed to a whole bunch, and I'm sure I'll never have time to go through and listen to all these past episodes! I'm wondering if there's a way in itunes to delete all the rest and just keep maybe the two most recent episodes but then have it download future episodes? I saw it in podcast settings, and I changed my default setting to keep only the two most recent episodes of each, but all the other ones are still there even though I've gone to the contextual menu on them and clicked update podcast. what am I doing wrong? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: podcast question
oh really? dang, that's gonna take forever!!! it made it seem like it could automaticly delete the old episodes. but mine doesn't. I really hope I dont have to go through and delete them all manually!! and then what about the future? I told it to only keep the most recent two episodes of each, but like I said before, it's still keeping all of them. On 31-Mar-09, at 11:42 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > > I delete my podcasts by going down the list in Itunes and pressing the > delete sequence. I then get a message asking me whether I want to keep > the podcast in my music library or whether I want to move it to the > trash. I think you have to do it for each podcast that has already > been downloaded. > > Hope this helps. > > Best wishes > > Simon > On 1 Apr 2009, at 01:50, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> hey guys >> I'm having way too much fun with podcasts today. I subscribed to a >> whole bunch, and I'm sure I'll never have time to go through and >> listen to all these past episodes! I'm wondering if there's a way in >> itunes to delete all the rest and just keep maybe the two most recent >> episodes but then have it download future episodes? I saw it in >> podcast settings, and I changed my default setting to keep only the >> two most recent episodes of each, but all the other ones are still >> there even though I've gone to the contextual menu on them and >> clicked >> update podcast. what am I doing wrong? >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Automatically managing podcast subscriptions [was Re: podcast question]
hey Ester, wow, thanks!! this is so detailed! :) I understand what I'm supposed to do with the contextual menu and all that, and I've just tried it, but they're still there! when I VO space on allow auto delete, voiceover kind of throws a mini fit and needs to reset itself, and iTunes just dings whenever I try and move voiceover around anywhere on it until I take focus away from it and bring it back. when I expand the podcast folder, all the episodes are still there, though most of them say undownloaded podcast. so I guess they're not taking up space on my drive since they're still undownloaded, but they're so annoying all being there, some of them have over a hundred episodes that are undownloaded!! so yeah, I get it, but I'm obviously still doing something wrong or my computer just doesn't like me. On 1-Apr-09, at 6:31 AM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Jessi, Simon, and others, > I'm wondering if there's a way in itunes to delete all the rest and just keep maybe the two most recent episodes but then have it download future episodes? I saw it in podcast settings, and I changed my default setting to keep only the two most recent episodes of each, but all the other ones are still there even though I've gone to the contextual menu on them and clicked update podcast. what am I doing wrong? > > To let iTunes automatically manage your podcasts, such as only keeping > the two most recent episodes, you need to check "Allow Auto Delete" in > the contextual menu. Any podcasts you manually download, such as by > selecting "Download Podcast Episode" in the contextual menu or by > pressing the "Free" button for the podcast to download it from the > songs outline of its podcast page in the iTunes Store, will > automatically be marked "Do Not Auto Delete" since iTunes assumes you > want to keep such podcasts. You can change these settings at the > level of individual podcasts or for all podcasts in a subscription if > you use the contextual menu at the folder level. You can also select > multiple episodes and/or folders and use the contextual menu to change > settings. > > For example, to delete all but the two most recent episodes of a > specific podcast, interact in the songs table and select the podcast > at the folder level, then use item chooser menu (VO-I) to select the > "Settings" button and press (VO-space). Uncheck the box for "use > default settings" and navigate to the pop up button to the right of > "Episodes to Keep" and change this (VO-Space) from "All Episodes" to > "Last 2 Episodes". Press return, or else navigate to the "OK" button > and press it (VO-Space) to log your changes and close the settings > menu. Then bring up the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) and select "Allow > Auto Delete". Now when you use "Update Podcast" in the contextual > menu, all but the last 2 episodes will be cleared from your library. > > An easier way to do what you want is to (temporarily) change the > default settings for all your podcasts (rather than an individual > podcast subscription) to have "Episodes to Keep" be "Last 2 episodes". > > 1. In your podcasts songs table, use item chooser (VO-I) to navigate > to the "Settings" button and press (VO-Space) to bring up the "Podcast > Settings" window > 2. VO-right arrow past "Settings for:" to the pop up button and press > (VO-Space) to change this from your specific podcast to "Podcast > Defaults" > 3. VO-right arrow past the pop up button for "Episodes to Keep" and > press (VO-Space), then set this to "Last 2 episodes". (This is > temporarily your default setting.) Press return to accept these > settings or escape to cancel (or navigate to the buttons for "Cancel" > and "OK" and press your selections.) > 4. Now, make your contextual menu changes for all or for a block of > your podcasts in the Songs outline. You can hold down the shift key > and arrow down to make multiple selections. Use VO-Shift-M and select > "Allow Auto Delete". If there are particular episodes or subscription > series you want to keep, select these and choose "Do Not Auto Delete" > in the contextual menu. (If you have mixed entries you'll need to use > the contextual menu at the individual episode level; selecting "Do Not > Auto Delete" at the folder level applies your choice to everything in > the podcast subscription folder). > 5. Select a block of entries, use the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M), > and choose "Update Podcast". All but the last 2 episodes (and any > episodes marked "Do Not Auto Delete" in the block) should be removed. > (You can also select all with Command-A after interacting, or make > non- > contiguous selections instead of using the shift and arrow keys, but I > would experiment until you feel confident about how to use this. For > example, you can check that the mixed "Do Not Auto Delete" and "Allow > Auto Delete" menu selections are present when your selection block > includes both types of settings.) > 6. After de
Re: Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast #001 now available
in deed!! it was a good one. lots of good and interesting viewpoints!! I listened to the new screenless switchers podcast this afternoon too. very interesting also!! lovin' all these mac podcasts!!! I recently got into MacBreak and Mac Cast, and of course Mac Tips daily, too!! although it doesn't seem to be too daily so far, lol. lovin' it though! yay for mac users!!! On 2-Apr-09, at 9:56 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Hey nice podcast, hope there'll be more to come in the coming months. > On Apr 2, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > > > Nice podcast. Pretty long, but really nice. Keep up the good work > guys. > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > On 02/04/2009, at 02.26, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: > >> >> >> The Mac-cessibility Podcast has been reborn as a round table-style >> discussion show covering all things Apple accessibility. This month >> our panelists are Holly Anderson, Darcy Bernard, Josh de lioncourt, >> Cara Quinn, and Steve Sawczyn, and covers a wide variety of recent >> Mac- >> cessibility news topics, software recommendations, and much more. >> >> For more details or to download the show, you can look up Mac- >> cessibility in the iTunes podcast directory, or read the show notes >> at: >> >> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/04/01/the-mac-cessibility-round-table-podcast-1-reboot/ >> >> >> Josh de Lioncourt >> Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt >> >> "Beauty was a savage garden, so why should it wound him that the most >> despairing music is full of beauty?" >> The Vampire Lestat--Anne Rice >> >> >> >> >>> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Twitter client
yes, twitteriffic is awesome!!! perfectly accessible!!! On 5-Apr-09, at 10:10 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > This may have been discussed here in the past. But, I am looking for > current recommendations for Voiceover compatible Twitter clients for > Leopard. > > Any help appreciated, > Everett > > Information Accessibility and Disability Rights Advocacy > http://twitter.com/ezufelt > > LinkedIn Profile > http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Twitter client
there's a tweets table. if you interact with that, you'll see all the incoming messages plus messages that you send. if you go into settings, you can control exactly which messages you see. sometimes it's a bit strange and you have to interact with the table several times, but it usually only takes a couple times before you can arrow through the messages. or maybe it's just me that's having the strange multiple interaction problem. when you arrow through, after interacting, just use the arrows not VO arrows. On 5-Apr-09, at 3:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Funny, I may be totally daft, but I couldn't find the incoming > messages that were or what are they called, a tweet? In any case I > couldn't figure out where they are. Any advice on how this bugger > works? I don't know how much tweeting or chirping I'll be doing, but > figured I'd see what all the quacking was about. :) > On Apr 5, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> yes, twitteriffic is awesome!!! perfectly accessible!!! >> On 5-Apr-09, at 10:10 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: >> >>> >>> Good afternoon, >>> >>> This may have been discussed here in the past. But, I am looking >>> for >>> current recommendations for Voiceover compatible Twitter clients for >>> Leopard. >>> >>> Any help appreciated, >>> Everett >>> >>> Information Accessibility and Disability Rights Advocacy >>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt >>> >>> LinkedIn Profile >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt >>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Twitter client
unknowns? really really weird!! I've never seen unknown. dumb question, but you logged in with your twitter id and password first, right? lol On 5-Apr-09, at 3:38 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Hmmm, maybe It is me as well. I just kept finding a couple of unknown > in the tables. I'll give it a go again, thanks. > > On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> there's a tweets table. if you interact with that, you'll see all the >> incoming messages plus messages that you send. if you go into >> settings, you can control exactly which messages you see. sometimes >> it's a bit strange and you have to interact with the table several >> times, but it usually only takes a couple times before you can arrow >> through the messages. or maybe it's just me that's having the strange >> multiple interaction problem. when you arrow through, after >> interacting, just use the arrows not VO arrows. >> On 5-Apr-09, at 3:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> >>> Funny, I may be totally daft, but I couldn't find the incoming >>> messages that were or what are they called, a tweet? In any case I >>> couldn't figure out where they are. Any advice on how this bugger >>> works? I don't know how much tweeting or chirping I'll be doing, but >>> figured I'd see what all the quacking was about. :) >>> On Apr 5, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> yes, twitteriffic is awesome!!! perfectly accessible!!! >>>> On 5-Apr-09, at 10:10 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good afternoon, >>>>> >>>>> This may have been discussed here in the past. But, I am looking >>>>> for >>>>> current recommendations for Voiceover compatible Twitter clients >>>>> for >>>>> Leopard. >>>>> >>>>> Any help appreciated, >>>>> Everett >>>>> >>>>> Information Accessibility and Disability Rights Advocacy >>>>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt >>>>> >>>>> LinkedIn Profile >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Twitter client
oh yeah, duh, lol. I just assued you were following people!! haha. you can also follow people right through twitteriffic directly by interacting with the edit field and typing follow and then the person's twitter name. to follow me it would be "follow canadian_diva" without the quotes. feel free to follow me if you like anyone! lol On 5-Apr-09, at 4:38 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > If you are not following anyone, there will be no incoming tweets, at > least not until you make one. You are always following yourself, > after all... > > In order to follow people, you have to find them on > http://www.twitter.com/Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Twitter client
no prob. I love that you can do that! it's so easy to just copy and paste the person's name into the edit field! I love things that make sense like that! yay twitteriffic! On 5-Apr-09, at 5:17 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > BurningHawk1969 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Twitter client
hmm, yeah, maybe reinstall the client? that's really strange!! I've never heard of that before. when I installed twitteriffic, I never saw any unknowns when trying to read the table and I didn't have to change any settings. I can't remember what's in the settings, but you might wanna go through and look just to make sure something's not weird there? I tweeted a lot tonight lol. went to a really exciting concert and I'm just so addicted to twitter that I had to tweet when I was driving there, when I got there, when I was standing right by the stage lol. so don't be surprised if there's lots from me when you finally get to read them!! haha. On 6-Apr-09, at 2:43 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Hey are there any special settings etc. to read the table? I put in > follow canadian_diva and was told there were 20 new tweets. I tried > arrowing up/down and even interacting with the table, but all I find > are the unknowns in the table. Also and I wonder if this has anything > to do with it, but seems sometimes the client will shut itself down > when I do certain things. Maybe I should just remove the client and > start over. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Twitter client
hmmm. if you're hearing that sound, then the tweets were received, and you should be able to interact with the table and read them. :) On 6-Apr-09, at 2:33 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Well apparently I did because if I send myself a twit or tweet > (whatever it's called), it chirps at me as though it was received. > > tnx > > On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> unknowns? really really weird!! I've never seen unknown. dumb >> question, but you logged in with your twitter id and password first, >> right? lol >> On 5-Apr-09, at 3:38 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> >>> Hmmm, maybe It is me as well. I just kept finding a couple of >>> unknown >>> in the tables. I'll give it a go again, thanks. >>> >>> On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> there's a tweets table. if you interact with that, you'll see all >>>> the >>>> incoming messages plus messages that you send. if you go into >>>> settings, you can control exactly which messages you see. sometimes >>>> it's a bit strange and you have to interact with the table several >>>> times, but it usually only takes a couple times before you can >>>> arrow >>>> through the messages. or maybe it's just me that's having the >>>> strange >>>> multiple interaction problem. when you arrow through, after >>>> interacting, just use the arrows not VO arrows. >>>> On 5-Apr-09, at 3:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Funny, I may be totally daft, but I couldn't find the incoming >>>>> messages that were or what are they called, a tweet? In any case I >>>>> couldn't figure out where they are. Any advice on how this bugger >>>>> works? I don't know how much tweeting or chirping I'll be doing, >>>>> but >>>>> figured I'd see what all the quacking was about. :) >>>>> On Apr 5, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> yes, twitteriffic is awesome!!! perfectly accessible!!! >>>>>> On 5-Apr-09, at 10:10 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good afternoon, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This may have been discussed here in the past. But, I am >>>>>>> looking >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> current recommendations for Voiceover compatible Twitter clients >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> Leopard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any help appreciated, >>>>>>> Everett >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Information Accessibility and Disability Rights Advocacy >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LinkedIn Profile >>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Twitter client
haha wow. well, your days of having to go to the profile and hit the follow button are over!!! twitteriffic makes it easy to follow all the people you want!!! uh...my twitteriffic infomercial is over. lol. go download your copy of twitteriffic today!!! lol. On 5-Apr-09, at 7:46 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Ah cool thanks for that tip Jessi,wasn't aware of that one. i was > always going to peoples' twitter pages, and hitting the follow button > On Apr 5, 2009, at 7:56 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > > > oh yeah, duh, lol. I just assued you were following people!! haha. you > can also follow people right through twitteriffic directly by > interacting with the edit field and typing follow and then the > person's twitter name. to follow me it would be "follow canadian_diva" > without the quotes. feel free to follow me if you like anyone! lol > On 5-Apr-09, at 4:38 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > >> >> If you are not following anyone, there will be no incoming tweets, at >> least not until you make one. You are always following yourself, >> after all... >> >> In order to follow people, you have to find them on >> http://www.twitter.com/Mark BurningHawk >> >> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >> My home page: >> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >> >> >>> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: just got my mac today
hey Peninnah welcome to the wonderful world of Mac!!! I grew up on windows too and didn't find it too hard to adjust. when you're learning, try to throw away a lot of what you learned about windows and pretend this is the first computer you've ever used. some stuff is the same, but a lot of it is different and it helps when you're not thinking well, I did this on windows... I'm not totally sure about your iPod nano, I've only used mine with my mac. but I assume you'd have to start over cuz you'd be using a different iTunes library? unless your library is on an external drive? hmmm. I'm sure someone else can answer those questions better. but for sure, when you sync it up, it will use whatever the system voice on your mac is. mine uses Alex and I wouldn't have it any other way!! On 6-Apr-09, at 11:26 AM, Peninnah wrote: > > Hi: > > I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you guys > with > questions over the next week or so as I learn. I am totally new to > the Mac > coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for > me. I am > really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient with > us new > folks. > > There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an > Ipod nano > four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to use > it with > my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it > and start > over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering what > will > happen when I switch? > Thanks again you guys for being here for me. > > > Peninnah Fleischer > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 8.1.1 available
yay!!! I hope this release is a bit more responsive, too! I found 8.1 a bit sluggish when quickly skipping through my library. it would often become busy and would take a few seconds to become ready again. I cant wait to hit up software update!!! On 6-Apr-09, at 1:39 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > Hope no more; instead, believe! The tab key now works in the new > release\e. You want it. Do software updates now. Resistance is just > plain foolish. > > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: just got my mac today
I found that too. they really do. and I like that you really only need to know a few commands before you can pretty much use it. and it works the same in every program. you don't have to worry about routing the jaws cursor to the pc cursor in this or that place. even the voiceover cursor seems to make more sense than the jaws cursor. I've been really impressed over the past year!!! there are still a few things that windows handles better, but apple is really rising to the challenge and I can't even remember the last time I booted up my windows pc. On 6-Apr-09, at 7:13 PM, Peninnah wrote: > > Thank you: > > This is a comforting post. I am doing just as you say, pretending I > am a > new computer user and not comparing anything to my windows > experience. So > far I am very impressed. In some ways the Mac seems easier for a > blind > person than windows. The commands make more logical sense anyway. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jessi Rathwell" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: just got my mac today > > >> >> hey Peninnah >> welcome to the wonderful world of Mac!!! I grew up on windows too and >> didn't find it too hard to adjust. when you're learning, try to throw >> away a lot of what you learned about windows and pretend this is the >> first computer you've ever used. some stuff is the same, but a lot of >> it is different and it helps when you're not thinking well, I did >> this >> on windows... >> I'm not totally sure about your iPod nano, I've only used mine with >> my >> mac. but I assume you'd have to start over cuz you'd be using a >> different iTunes library? unless your library is on an external >> drive? >> hmmm. I'm sure someone else can answer those questions better. but >> for >> sure, when you sync it up, it will use whatever the system voice on >> your mac is. mine uses Alex and I wouldn't have it any other way!! >> On 6-Apr-09, at 11:26 AM, Peninnah wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi: >>> >>> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you guys >>> with >>> questions over the next week or so as I learn. I am totally new to >>> the Mac >>> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for >>> me. I am >>> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient with >>> us new >>> folks. >>> >>> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an >>> Ipod nano >>> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to use >>> it with >>> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it >>> and start >>> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering what >>> will >>> happen when I switch? >>> Thanks again you guys for being here for me. >>> >>> >>> Peninnah Fleischer >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 8.1.1 available
oh, that's totally what I did!!! lol. I got my new itunes version...yay!!! it's awesome On 6-Apr-09, at 8:19 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > Jessi, > > Just launch it from the Apple menu. > > I ain't waiting. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 6-Apr-09, at 2:00 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> yay!!! I hope this release is a bit more responsive, too! I found 8.1 >> a bit sluggish when quickly skipping through my library. it would >> often become busy and would take a few seconds to become ready again. >> I cant wait to hit up software update!!! >> On 6-Apr-09, at 1:39 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: >> >>> >>> Hope no more; instead, believe! The tab key now works in the new >>> release\e. You want it. Do software updates now. Resistance is >>> just >>> plain foolish. >>> >>> >>> Mark BurningHawk >>> >>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>> My home page: >>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mars edit
hey, it's free. On 9-Apr-09, at 12:30 AM, william lomas wrote: > > Hi, is mars edit, for blogging a free or paid for application? > Regards, WIll > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mars edit
oh is it? hmm, my bad, I thought it was free. On 9-Apr-09, at 1:15 AM, Scott Rutkowski wrote: > > it's a 30 day trial then you have to buy it and yes it's for blogging. > go and read the website all the info is there. > > > On 09/04/2009, at 5:30 PM, william lomas wrote: > >> >> Hi, is mars edit, for blogging a free or paid for application? >> Regards, WIll >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: games for the Mac?
yep, old school Z code text adventure games work!! I'm just starting to get into them, but I've been able to play them fine! they may be old but they're new to me, lol. On 11-Apr-09, at 1:02 AM, Mitchell Smith wrote: > > I thought I might check out some of the open source Z code > interpreters and > try and resurrect some of the old Infocom text adventures. > > I have had some success with this on Linux in the past, so hoping > this will > probably work with VoiceOver on the terminal as well. > > - Original Message - > From: "Peninnah" > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: games for the Mac? > > >> >> I was wondering the same thing. I'd like to find an accessible >> solitaire. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Mark Baxter" >> To: >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:12 PM >> Subject: games for the Mac? >> >> >>> >>> Other than web-based games like trivia type games, are there any >>> games >>> that are VO friendly for the mac? I've never heard of any, other >>> than >>> something like Quake, which has a Mac version of the AQ mod, which >>> also need to get set up... >>> >>> >>> Mark BurningHawk >>> >>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>> My home page: >>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: games for the Mac?
what exactly is second life? I've heard a lot about it but don't really know what it is! it sounds interesting. On 11-Apr-09, at 7:29 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > This is great to know; thanks. I'm also looking to working with > second Life to make more of their world accessible, but that's a > project a ways down the tunnel. > > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: syncing my nokia phone
ooh. unfortunately I can't help, but would definitely be curious what you find out so whoever sends answers this, please send to the list! I'd love to be able to sync my E71 with my mac! having to use pc suite all the time is gonna give me gray hairs before I'm 30!!! On 13-Apr-09, at 6:07 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > > Hi list. I found a page on nokia's website about a plugin for isync > that will let me sync my nokia e71 with my mac. How do I get this to > download. It looks like I have to select my phone some how. Can anyone > help? Thanks to anyone who can. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: syncing my nokia phone
I did bluetooth pair it. I thought you needed a plugin for isync, though? cuz to install apps, you need pc suite, so they say. I'm thinking a plugin would eliminate the need for pc suite? On 13-Apr-09, at 6:39 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > Bluetooth pair it and use ISync. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 13-Apr-09, at 6:14 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> ooh. unfortunately I can't help, but would definitely be curious what >> you find out so whoever sends answers this, please send to the list! >> I'd love to be able to sync my E71 with my mac! having to use pc >> suite >> all the time is gonna give me gray hairs before I'm 30!!! >> On 13-Apr-09, at 6:07 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi list. I found a page on nokia's website about a plugin for isync >>> that will let me sync my nokia e71 with my mac. How do I get this to >>> download. It looks like I have to select my phone some how. Can >>> anyone >>> help? Thanks to anyone who can. >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: syncing my nokia phone
h. that might work, I dunno what phones it's for. will google it now! On 13-Apr-09, at 9:23 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > WOuldn't using an application like sincmate possibly work? Or is that > only for Windows MObile phones? > On Apr 13, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > > > Hi list. I found a page on nokia's website about a plugin for isync > that will let me sync my nokia e71 with my mac. How do I get this to > download. It looks like I have to select my phone some how. Can anyone > help? Thanks to anyone who can. > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Copy to Clipboard in Twitteriffic
yeah, I know, it's a bit annoying. I wish twitteriffic had a retweet feature!!! but if you copy it into text edit and trim it down a bit then you should be able to put it into the message field. On 14-Apr-09, at 8:51 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > Appears that every time I was trying to copy and paste the first tweet > in Twitteriffic it was to long to paste. I'm not sure that I like the > behaviour of not allowing a paste of information that does not fit > into the update edit field. I'd prefer some sort of message, or that > as much text as fits would get pasted. > > HTH, > Everett > > Follow me on Twitter > http://twitter.com/ezufelt > > View my LinkedIn Profile > http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt > > > > > > On 14-Apr-09, at 12:04 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > >> Good morning, >> >> I don't seem to be able to copy tweets to the clipboard (using VO + >> Shift + C) when I am focused on the first tweet in the list. Any >> suggestions / can this be reproduced on anyone else's system? >> >> Thanks, >> Everett >> >> Follow me on Twitter >> http://twitter.com/ezufelt >> >> View my LinkedIn Profile >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt >> >> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: syncing my nokia phone
what's it called? where do you get it? is it free? lol it's 20 questions time!! haha. I'm interested!!! On 14-Apr-09, at 3:11 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > It is possible but it's a 3rd party tool that you use to connect nokia > devices to mac machines. > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessi Rathwell > Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2009 1:14 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: syncing my nokia phone > > > ooh. unfortunately I can't help, but would definitely be curious > what you > find out so whoever sends answers this, please send to the list! > I'd love to be able to sync my E71 with my mac! having to use pc > suite all > the time is gonna give me gray hairs before I'm 30!!! > On 13-Apr-09, at 6:07 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > >> >> Hi list. I found a page on nokia's website about a plugin for isync >> that will let me sync my nokia e71 with my mac. How do I get this to >> download. It looks like I have to select my phone some how. Can >> anyone >> help? Thanks to anyone who can. >> >>> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: syncing my nokia phone
ooh! thanks!! :) hopefully it'll work with my e71. On 15-Apr-09, at 1:59 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > I'll try and remember to ask at work tomorrow, I know we've got mac > users > that are using it. > > sf > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessi Rathwell > Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2009 7:01 a.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: syncing my nokia phone > > > what's it called? where do you get it? is it free? lol it's 20 > questions > time!! haha. I'm interested!!! > On 14-Apr-09, at 3:11 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > >> >> It is possible but it's a 3rd party tool that you use to connect >> nokia >> devices to mac machines. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessi Rathwell >> Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2009 1:14 p.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: syncing my nokia phone >> >> >> ooh. unfortunately I can't help, but would definitely be curious >> what you >> find out so whoever sends answers this, please send to the list! >> I'd love to be able to sync my E71 with my mac! having to use pc >> suite all >> the time is gonna give me gray hairs before I'm 30!!! >> On 13-Apr-09, at 6:07 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi list. I found a page on nokia's website about a plugin for isync >>> that will let me sync my nokia e71 with my mac. How do I get this to >>> download. It looks like I have to select my phone some how. Can >>> anyone >>> help? Thanks to anyone who can. >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Twitter client
I know that's right!! I can't wait either!! I still think twitteriffic should make an rt button or something so you could just be on the tweet and then press it and it would put it into the edit field, that would be nifty!! but VO shift c works well!! Jessi follow me on twitter http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 14-Apr-09, at 8:55 PM, Victor Tsaran wrote: > > Much appreciate the tip about VO Copy to Clipboard feature -- every > day > I learn something new about this screen reader. Can't wait to see what > these guys introduce into Snow Leopard. > > On 4/12/2009 8:53 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: >> Easiest way I've found to do this is VO shift C, copy last phase to >> the clipboard. Then, if you're RT'ing someone, yo just write, for >> example, >> rt @burninghawk1969 Top coat, cop hat, I don't worry cause my >> wallet's >> fat ... >> or whatever. >> >> >> Mark BurningHawk >> >> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >> My home page: >> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >> >> >>> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: introduction
ha! outspoken! that creepy voice saying :button" still haunts my dreams lol!! way back in the early 90s, back in the day when I was like eight, haha my school for some reason gave my family a mac? I think it was supposed to be for me but I remember my family used it a lot more than I did. I do remember using it though! I never independently learned how to use outspoken, but I remember my parents clicking on clarisworks for me and it saying "button," lol. I remember I learned to type on a mac too, cuz that was all they had my school. those old ones!! maybe that's why I can type so fast now? cuz I learned on a mac with all the right type? lol. I didn't see a pc til I was like 13 and then I learned windows, and swore to it! I was seriously the most anti-mac person ever until last march at CSUN when my eyes were opened and I returned to my mac roots lol! I can't believe it's been almost a year! and I have no desire to go back! lol. anyway, welcome Andrea!! you'll love it!! feel free to ask questions, that's what this list is for!! On 17-Apr-09, at 10:58 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > Hi, Andrea: > > I was using a Mac back in the early 1990's with OutSpoken, which was > not built in to the OS. I would say that Voiceover in the latest > version of Leopard is similar to but far superior to that. I just > switched from my XP machine in January, and have not gone back. I > also have Vista running on this Macbook as well, so can do anything in > Windows I need to. > > I offer tutoring and support as well, so if you need me, give me a > shout. I know you'll have a lot of fun with it, especially if you're > the type that thinks like a musician--it's built in that intuitive, > fuzzy logic sort o way. > > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
oldschool mac nostalgia
just thought I'd make the subject more relevent lol. Alex, you got me beat lol! I have no idea how old mine was when I got it and I sho have no clue where it is now!! lol. I remember the day my family got our first windows computer, it was november 11th 1997 I believe? possibly 96? can't remember the exact year lol. and from that day forward, the old mac went somewhere and I haven't seen it since! lol. I'm sure we dont't have it anymore, though I really wish we did...I'd love to play with it and actually learn outspoken just so I can say I know how to use it lol. although, from what I remember it didn't offer too much in the way of accessibility and the voice was horrible. I remember typing up a science project on that old thing lol. that was the only thing I remember doing with it, that and writing letters to an old pen pal I used to have! wow! the nostalgia! lol. now I'm wondering what happened to her? haha. I'mma ask my parents tomorrow if they remember life with that old mac, lol. I'mma remind them that their computer roots are based in apple! now they're all windows people and they're constantly teasing me about my love of all things apple so I think they need a reality check so they can remember where they came from lol. peace and positivity :) Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 12:54 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > Andrea, > > I too had a Mac in the early 1990's. I got it in 1995, thugh I still > had sight then. It was a single unit with built-in display. It was > fifteen years old when I got it from a family friend and I still have > it and it still works. My sister uses it more than I do because there > is not much accessibility support in those old OS's. Maybe I should > try outspoken on it just for kicks. Anywho, then I lost my sight after > aquireing my Beige G3. The little sight I had left was enough to use > zoom on the thing because no one I knew at the time knew about > Outspoken. Then I got a Windows PC. After using XP for about four or > five years I gave up on it. When Tiger came out, I got a tiger G4 > Quick Silver running at 2GHZ and with 1.5 GB or RAM. Then while at > work, I got to play with the Beta of Leopard. Shortly after I got a > Pre-November 2007 Macbook the month before Leopard was released. I > also received a copy of Leopard when it was released. All this except > the PC was curtosy of the family friend who first introduced me to > computers. > > I love the Mac and can say that I have been completely Windows free > for just about two years. > > I hope you enjoy OS X as much as I do. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 18-Apr-09, at 12:20 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> ha! outspoken! that creepy voice saying :button" still haunts my >> dreams lol!! way back in the early 90s, back in the day when I was >> like eight, haha my school for some reason gave my family a mac? I >> think it was supposed to be for me but I remember my family used it a >> lot more than I did. I do remember using it though! I never >> independently learned how to use outspoken, but I remember my parents >> clicking on clarisworks for me and it saying "button," lol. I >> remember >> I learned to type on a mac too, cuz that was all they had my school. >> those old ones!! maybe that's why I can type so fast now? cuz I >> learned on a mac with all the right type? lol. I didn't see a pc >> til I >> was like 13 and then I learned windows, and swore to it! I was >> seriously the most anti-mac person ever until last march at CSUN when >> my eyes were opened and I returned to my mac roots lol! I can't >> believe it's been almost a year! and I have no desire to go back! >> lol. >> anyway, welcome Andrea!! you'll love it!! feel free to ask questions, >> that's what this list is for!! >> >> >> On 17-Apr-09, >> >> at 10:58 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, Andrea: >>> >>> I was using a Mac back in the early 1990's with OutSpoken, which was >>> not built in to the OS. I would say that Voiceover in the latest >>> version of Leopard is similar to but far superior to that. I just >>> switched from my XP machine in January, and have not gone back. I >>> also have Vista running on this Macbook as well, so can do anything >>> in >>> Windows I need to. >>> >>> I offer tutoring and support as well, so if you need me, give me a >>> shout. I know you'll have a lot of fun with it, especially if >>> you're >>> the type that think
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the rest of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about before? lol. On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hi. > My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was > called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who ran > Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen > reader. > /Krister > > > 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: > >> >> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I did >> all >> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus was >> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash the 2C >> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >> >> >> Mark BurningHawk >> >> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >> My home page: >> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
dude!! oldschool mac party at Tiff's house!! lol. that would be so much fun, looking at all those old things! someone should put together an apple musiem or something. I'd totally visit! peace and positivity :) Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 11:08 AM, Tiffany D wrote: > > I think I got you all beat. I've got an Apple II C and an Apple II GS > both in perfect working condition with tons of disks, though more > towards the GS Side and extra stuff for that machine that I haven't > even unpacked yet, including a printer. I've even got the internet > package and the screenreader. I bought the latter two as a > retrocomputer hobbiest and have never used them. > > On 18/04/2009, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Too true. >> >> We should have a "Old Mac" party at some point, ... Lol. >> >> Mr. Rathwell should go back to those Mac roots. If more people >> thought >> like you in this province Jessi, we might actually get all students >> Windows free in a matter of years.. >> >> Thanks, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 18-Apr-09, at 2:04 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >> >>> >>> just thought I'd make the subject more relevent lol. >>> Alex, you got me beat lol! I have no idea how old mine was when I >>> got >>> it and I sho have no clue where it is now!! lol. I remember the >>> day my >>> family got our first windows computer, it was november 11th 1997 I >>> believe? possibly 96? can't remember the exact year lol. and from >>> that >>> day forward, the old mac went somewhere and I haven't seen it since! >>> lol. I'm sure we dont't have it anymore, though I really wish we >>> did...I'd love to play with it and actually learn outspoken just >>> so I >>> can say I know how to use it lol. although, from what I remember it >>> didn't offer too much in the way of accessibility and the voice was >>> horrible. I remember typing up a science project on that old thing >>> lol. that was the only thing I remember doing with it, that and >>> writing letters to an old pen pal I used to have! wow! the >>> nostalgia! >>> lol. now I'm wondering what happened to her? haha. >>> I'mma ask my parents tomorrow if they remember life with that old >>> mac, >>> lol. I'mma remind them that their computer roots are based in apple! >>> now they're all windows people and they're constantly teasing me >>> about >>> my love of all things apple so I think they need a reality check so >>> they can remember where they came from lol. >>> peace and positivity :) >>> Jessi >>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:54 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Andrea, >>>> >>>> I too had a Mac in the early 1990's. I got it in 1995, thugh I >>>> still >>>> had sight then. It was a single unit with built-in display. It was >>>> fifteen years old when I got it from a family friend and I still >>>> have >>>> it and it still works. My sister uses it more than I do because >>>> there >>>> is not much accessibility support in those old OS's. Maybe I should >>>> try outspoken on it just for kicks. Anywho, then I lost my sight >>>> after >>>> aquireing my Beige G3. The little sight I had left was enough to >>>> use >>>> zoom on the thing because no one I knew at the time knew about >>>> Outspoken. Then I got a Windows PC. After using XP for about four >>>> or >>>> five years I gave up on it. When Tiger came out, I got a tiger G4 >>>> Quick Silver running at 2GHZ and with 1.5 GB or RAM. Then while at >>>> work, I got to play with the Beta of Leopard. Shortly after I got a >>>> Pre-November 2007 Macbook the month before Leopard was released. I >>>> also received a copy of Leopard when it was released. All this >>>> except >>>> the PC was curtosy of the family friend who first introduced me to >>>> computers. >>>> >>>> I love the Mac and can say that I have been completely Windows free >>>> for just about two years. >>>> >>>> I hope you enjoy OS X as much as I do. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex, >>>> >>>>
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
ahahaha Alex I know that's right lol!! if I took over my dad's job everyone would be ditching windows. I think it's important to know both OS's, I love that I can just sit down at any computer running windows or mac OS and use it as long as it's got a screenreader. but in my humble opinion, lol, mac is so much easier to learn than windows...so much more intuitive. it just makes sense most of the time!! peace and positivity:) Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 10:35 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > Too true. > > We should have a "Old Mac" party at some point, ... Lol. > > Mr. Rathwell should go back to those Mac roots. If more people thought > like you in this province Jessi, we might actually get all students > Windows free in a matter of years.. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 18-Apr-09, at 2:04 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> just thought I'd make the subject more relevent lol. >> Alex, you got me beat lol! I have no idea how old mine was when I got >> it and I sho have no clue where it is now!! lol. I remember the day >> my >> family got our first windows computer, it was november 11th 1997 I >> believe? possibly 96? can't remember the exact year lol. and from >> that >> day forward, the old mac went somewhere and I haven't seen it since! >> lol. I'm sure we dont't have it anymore, though I really wish we >> did...I'd love to play with it and actually learn outspoken just so I >> can say I know how to use it lol. although, from what I remember it >> didn't offer too much in the way of accessibility and the voice was >> horrible. I remember typing up a science project on that old thing >> lol. that was the only thing I remember doing with it, that and >> writing letters to an old pen pal I used to have! wow! the nostalgia! >> lol. now I'm wondering what happened to her? haha. >> I'mma ask my parents tomorrow if they remember life with that old >> mac, >> lol. I'mma remind them that their computer roots are based in apple! >> now they're all windows people and they're constantly teasing me >> about >> my love of all things apple so I think they need a reality check so >> they can remember where they came from lol. >> peace and positivity :) >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:54 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> Andrea, >>> >>> I too had a Mac in the early 1990's. I got it in 1995, thugh I still >>> had sight then. It was a single unit with built-in display. It was >>> fifteen years old when I got it from a family friend and I still >>> have >>> it and it still works. My sister uses it more than I do because >>> there >>> is not much accessibility support in those old OS's. Maybe I should >>> try outspoken on it just for kicks. Anywho, then I lost my sight >>> after >>> aquireing my Beige G3. The little sight I had left was enough to use >>> zoom on the thing because no one I knew at the time knew about >>> Outspoken. Then I got a Windows PC. After using XP for about four or >>> five years I gave up on it. When Tiger came out, I got a tiger G4 >>> Quick Silver running at 2GHZ and with 1.5 GB or RAM. Then while at >>> work, I got to play with the Beta of Leopard. Shortly after I got a >>> Pre-November 2007 Macbook the month before Leopard was released. I >>> also received a copy of Leopard when it was released. All this >>> except >>> the PC was curtosy of the family friend who first introduced me to >>> computers. >>> >>> I love the Mac and can say that I have been completely Windows free >>> for just about two years. >>> >>> I hope you enjoy OS X as much as I do. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:20 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> ha! outspoken! that creepy voice saying :button" still haunts my >>>> dreams lol!! way back in the early 90s, back in the day when I was >>>> like eight, haha my school for some reason gave my family a mac? I >>>> think it was supposed to be for me but I remember my family used >>>> it a >>>> lot more than I did. I do remember using it though! I never >>>> independently learned how to use outspoken, but I remember my >>>> parents >>>> clicking on
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
lol. what was the talking moose? sounds like an interesting app lol! peace and positivity:) Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 11:23 AM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I did all > my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus was > wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking > moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash the 2C > when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. > > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
ha! doubt it lol. although, I was trying to help my mom fix her pc last night and we were both this close to throwing it out the window and I was like get a mac, lol. peace and positivity:) Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 11:24 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Yeah, maybe you can convince them to get macs as well? > On Apr 18, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > > > just thought I'd make the subject more relevent lol. > Alex, you got me beat lol! I have no idea how old mine was when I got > it and I sho have no clue where it is now!! lol. I remember the day my > family got our first windows computer, it was november 11th 1997 I > believe? possibly 96? can't remember the exact year lol. and from that > day forward, the old mac went somewhere and I haven't seen it since! > lol. I'm sure we dont't have it anymore, though I really wish we > did...I'd love to play with it and actually learn outspoken just so I > can say I know how to use it lol. although, from what I remember it > didn't offer too much in the way of accessibility and the voice was > horrible. I remember typing up a science project on that old thing > lol. that was the only thing I remember doing with it, that and > writing letters to an old pen pal I used to have! wow! the nostalgia! > lol. now I'm wondering what happened to her? haha. > I'mma ask my parents tomorrow if they remember life with that old mac, > lol. I'mma remind them that their computer roots are based in apple! > now they're all windows people and they're constantly teasing me about > my love of all things apple so I think they need a reality check so > they can remember where they came from lol. > peace and positivity :) > Jessi > follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva > On 18-Apr-09, at 12:54 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> Andrea, >> >> I too had a Mac in the early 1990's. I got it in 1995, thugh I still >> had sight then. It was a single unit with built-in display. It was >> fifteen years old when I got it from a family friend and I still have >> it and it still works. My sister uses it more than I do because there >> is not much accessibility support in those old OS's. Maybe I should >> try outspoken on it just for kicks. Anywho, then I lost my sight >> after >> aquireing my Beige G3. The little sight I had left was enough to use >> zoom on the thing because no one I knew at the time knew about >> Outspoken. Then I got a Windows PC. After using XP for about four or >> five years I gave up on it. When Tiger came out, I got a tiger G4 >> Quick Silver running at 2GHZ and with 1.5 GB or RAM. Then while at >> work, I got to play with the Beta of Leopard. Shortly after I got a >> Pre-November 2007 Macbook the month before Leopard was released. I >> also received a copy of Leopard when it was released. All this except >> the PC was curtosy of the family friend who first introduced me to >> computers. >> >> I love the Mac and can say that I have been completely Windows free >> for just about two years. >> >> I hope you enjoy OS X as much as I do. >> >> Thanks, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:20 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >> >>> >>> ha! outspoken! that creepy voice saying :button" still haunts my >>> dreams lol!! way back in the early 90s, back in the day when I was >>> like eight, haha my school for some reason gave my family a mac? I >>> think it was supposed to be for me but I remember my family used >>> it a >>> lot more than I did. I do remember using it though! I never >>> independently learned how to use outspoken, but I remember my >>> parents >>> clicking on clarisworks for me and it saying "button," lol. I >>> remember >>> I learned to type on a mac too, cuz that was all they had my school. >>> those old ones!! maybe that's why I can type so fast now? cuz I >>> learned on a mac with all the right type? lol. I didn't see a pc >>> til I >>> was like 13 and then I learned windows, and swore to it! I was >>> seriously the most anti-mac person ever until last march at CSUN >>> when >>> my eyes were opened and I returned to my mac roots lol! I can't >>> believe it's been almost a year! and I have no desire to go back! >>> lol. >>> anyway, welcome Andrea!! you'll love it!! feel free to ask >>> questions, >>> that's what this list is for!! >>> >>> >>> On 17-Apr-09,
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
haha. that was Jess's great idea for the week! let's not waste it, they don't come often. lol. I'm actually surprised apple has never put anything like that together. I know they have a kind of out with the old, in with the new attitude, and I've actually heard that they just throw the old stuff away. but don't they think it's fun to look back and see how far things have come? peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 1:09 PM, chantel cuddemi wrote: > > Dude, I am so there!!! Omg!!!!!! > On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> dude!! oldschool mac party at Tiff's house!! lol. that would be so >> much fun, looking at all those old things! someone should put >> together >> an apple musiem or something. I'd totally visit! >> peace and positivity :) >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:08 AM, Tiffany D wrote: >> >>> >>> I think I got you all beat. I've got an Apple II C and an Apple II >>> GS >>> both in perfect working condition with tons of disks, though more >>> towards the GS Side and extra stuff for that machine that I haven't >>> even unpacked yet, including a printer. I've even got the internet >>> package and the screenreader. I bought the latter two as a >>> retrocomputer hobbiest and have never used them. >>> >>> On 18/04/2009, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Too true. >>>> >>>> We should have a "Old Mac" party at some point, ... Lol. >>>> >>>> Mr. Rathwell should go back to those Mac roots. If more people >>>> thought >>>> like you in this province Jessi, we might actually get all students >>>> Windows free in a matter of years.. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex, >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 2:04 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> just thought I'd make the subject more relevent lol. >>>>> Alex, you got me beat lol! I have no idea how old mine was when I >>>>> got >>>>> it and I sho have no clue where it is now!! lol. I remember the >>>>> day my >>>>> family got our first windows computer, it was november 11th 1997 I >>>>> believe? possibly 96? can't remember the exact year lol. and from >>>>> that >>>>> day forward, the old mac went somewhere and I haven't seen it >>>>> since! >>>>> lol. I'm sure we dont't have it anymore, though I really wish we >>>>> did...I'd love to play with it and actually learn outspoken just >>>>> so I >>>>> can say I know how to use it lol. although, from what I remember >>>>> it >>>>> didn't offer too much in the way of accessibility and the voice >>>>> was >>>>> horrible. I remember typing up a science project on that old thing >>>>> lol. that was the only thing I remember doing with it, that and >>>>> writing letters to an old pen pal I used to have! wow! the >>>>> nostalgia! >>>>> lol. now I'm wondering what happened to her? haha. >>>>> I'mma ask my parents tomorrow if they remember life with that old >>>>> mac, >>>>> lol. I'mma remind them that their computer roots are based in >>>>> apple! >>>>> now they're all windows people and they're constantly teasing me >>>>> about >>>>> my love of all things apple so I think they need a reality check >>>>> so >>>>> they can remember where they came from lol. >>>>> peace and positivity :) >>>>> Jessi >>>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:54 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> Andrea, >>>>>> >>>>>> I too had a Mac in the early 1990's. I got it in 1995, thugh I >>>>>> still >>>>>> had sight then. It was a single unit with built-in display. It >>>>>> was >>>>>> fifteen years old when I got it from a family friend and I still >>>>>> have >>>>>>
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
dang it audible, how dare you let me down again!!! lol. it's not there! :( audible doesn't seem to ever have what I want lately. and I used to love it! oh well, will have to find it another way. it sounds interesting and it's about time I read a different style of book, lol three chick lit books in a row is making me want a change lol. peace and positivity:) Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 2:43 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: > > For anyone who's into all the old Apple stuff or just a bit of a retro > geek in general, Steve Wozniak's biography is worth a read. All quite > light hearted and easy to digest, but it'll be a fun few hours of your > time. For anyone who doesn't know, Wozniak or iWoz as he's > affectionately refered too most of the time co-founded Apple many > moons ago. He was the geeky inventor type designing all the hardware > etc, and Jobs was the business brain. > > Anyway, if you're interested, track it down. the full title is: > iWoz: From Computer Geek to Cult Icon: How I Invented the Personal > Computer, Co-Founded Apple, and Had Fun Doing It. > > Enjoy... > Scott > > On 4/18/09, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >> >> haha. that was Jess's great idea for the week! let's not waste it, >> they don't come often. lol. I'm actually surprised apple has never >> put >> anything like that together. I know they have a kind of out with the >> old, in with the new attitude, and I've actually heard that they just >> throw the old stuff away. but don't they think it's fun to look back >> and see how far things have come? >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 18-Apr-09, at 1:09 PM, chantel cuddemi wrote: >> >>> >>> Dude, I am so there!!! Omg!! >>> On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> dude!! oldschool mac party at Tiff's house!! lol. that would be so >>>> much fun, looking at all those old things! someone should put >>>> together >>>> an apple musiem or something. I'd totally visit! >>>> peace and positivity :) >>>> Jessi >>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:08 AM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think I got you all beat. I've got an Apple II C and an Apple >>>>> II >>>>> GS >>>>> both in perfect working condition with tons of disks, though more >>>>> towards the GS Side and extra stuff for that machine that I >>>>> haven't >>>>> even unpacked yet, including a printer. I've even got the >>>>> internet >>>>> package and the screenreader. I bought the latter two as a >>>>> retrocomputer hobbiest and have never used them. >>>>> >>>>> On 18/04/2009, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Too true. >>>>>> >>>>>> We should have a "Old Mac" party at some point, ... Lol. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mr. Rathwell should go back to those Mac roots. If more people >>>>>> thought >>>>>> like you in this province Jessi, we might actually get all >>>>>> students >>>>>> Windows free in a matter of years.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 2:04 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> just thought I'd make the subject more relevent lol. >>>>>>> Alex, you got me beat lol! I have no idea how old mine was >>>>>>> when I >>>>>>> got >>>>>>> it and I sho have no clue where it is now!! lol. I remember the >>>>>>> day my >>>>>>> family got our first windows computer, it was november 11th >>>>>>> 1997 I >>>>>>> believe? possibly 96? can't remember the exact year lol. and >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> day forward, the old mac went somewhere and I haven't seen it >>>>>>> since! >>>>>>> lol. I'm sure we dont't have it anymor
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
wow, thanks!! I wonder why I didn't find it when I looked? my faith in audible has been restored, lol. thanks! it looks like I'll be able to get it, too even though I'm using the canadian audible store. yay! I still have a ways to go on my current read, but once I finish it this will be my next! peace and positivity:) Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 3:34 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Jessi, > > If you're using the U.S. Audible Store here's the link to Steve > Wozniak's biography: > > http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/products/ProductDetail.jsp?productID=BK_TANT_000306&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes > > The list price is $17.49 and the member price is $12.24. I don't know > if there are geographical restrictions. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Apr 18, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> dang it audible, how dare you let me down again!!! lol. it's not >> there! :( audible doesn't seem to ever have what I want lately. and I >> used to love it! oh well, will have to find it another way. it sounds >> interesting and it's about time I read a different style of book, lol >> three chick lit books in a row is making me want a change lol. >> peace and positivity:) >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 18-Apr-09, at 2:43 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: >> >>> >>> For anyone who's into all the old Apple stuff or just a bit of a >>> retro >>> geek in general, Steve Wozniak's biography is worth a read. All >>> quite >>> light hearted and easy to digest, but it'll be a fun few hours of >>> your >>> time. For anyone who doesn't know, Wozniak or iWoz as he's >>> affectionately refered too most of the time co-founded Apple many >>> moons ago. He was the geeky inventor type designing all the >>> hardware >>> etc, and Jobs was the business brain. >>> >>> Anyway, if you're interested, track it down. the full title is: >>> iWoz: From Computer Geek to Cult Icon: How I Invented the Personal >>> Computer, Co-Founded Apple, and Had Fun Doing It. >>> >>> Enjoy... >>> Scott >>> >>> On 4/18/09, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>> >>>> haha. that was Jess's great idea for the week! let's not waste it, >>>> they don't come often. lol. I'm actually surprised apple has never >>>> put >>>> anything like that together. I know they have a kind of out with >>>> the >>>> old, in with the new attitude, and I've actually heard that they >>>> just >>>> throw the old stuff away. but don't they think it's fun to look >>>> back >>>> and see how far things have come? >>>> peace and positivity >>>> Jessi >>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 1:09 PM, chantel cuddemi wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dude, I am so there!!! Omg!! >>>>> On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> dude!! oldschool mac party at Tiff's house!! lol. that would be >>>>>> so >>>>>> much fun, looking at all those old things! someone should put >>>>>> together >>>>>> an apple musiem or something. I'd totally visit! >>>>>> peace and positivity :) >>>>>> Jessi >>>>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:08 AM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I got you all beat. I've got an Apple II C and an Apple >>>>>>> II >>>>>>> GS >>>>>>> both in perfect working condition with tons of disks, though >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> towards the GS Side and extra stuff for that machine that I >>>>>>> haven't >>>>>>> even unpacked yet, including a printer. I've even got the >>>>>>> internet >>>>>>> package and the screenreader. I bought the latter two as a >>>>>>> retrocomputer hobbiest and have never used them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18/04/2009, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
lol that sounds hilarious! what kinds of random things? peace and positivity:) Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 4:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > I'll send it to you next time I'm on MSN. I have an OS X copy of it. > It speaks random things at random as you use the computer. > > Thanks, > alex, > > > On 18-Apr-09, at 1:05 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> lol. what was the talking moose? sounds like an interesting app lol! >> peace and positivity:) >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:23 AM, Mark Baxter wrote: >> >>> >>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I did >>> all >>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus was >>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash the >>> 2C >>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>> >>> >>> Mark BurningHawk >>> >>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>> My home page: >>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
lol. 11.0 chocolate lab. Goldie is a black lab, lol. that would be interesting if Steve Jobs saw her and fell in love with her royal cuteness and decided hey. I'mma name my next OS after this girl's guide dog. lol. for real, though, OS 9, 8, etc didn't have any names? aww. that's sad. everything deserves a name, lol. I should name them all after the fact. lol. peace and positivity:) Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 4:40 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > They had no names as far as I remember. > > Mac OS 11.0 "Chocolate Lab" A.K.A. "Goldy" Maybe. > > Well, the computers at that time actually had nicknames, not the OS's. > These Apple regarded as code names, moddel names if you will. > > OS X is as follows: > > Beta release (Unknown) > 10.0 Puma > 10.1 Cheetah > 10.2 Jaguar > 10.3 Panther > 10.4 Tiger > 10.5 Leopard > 10.6 Snow Leopard > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > > On 18-Apr-09, at 12:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the rest >> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >> before? lol. >> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi. >>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>> ran >>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>> reader. >>> /Krister >>> >>> >>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>> >>>> >>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I did >>>> all >>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus was >>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash the >>>> 2C >>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>> >>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>> My home page: >>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
ooh wee!!! there's a powerfuly discriptive statement, lol!! was it another screenreader or what? peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 5:42 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > I do believe that the talking moos still exists, though I have no > desire at all ever to hear it again ever. With you it was "button," > for me, it was the way it said "dialog." Like fingernails on slate > scored by battery acid dipped in razors on sheet metal. > > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
lol really? a funeral? that's hilarious!! I wonder if there are youtube videos? haha. here lies OS9.2.2, no name. it's served us faithfuly for many months, but it is now time for it to rest in piece as we unvail the powerful OS10. peace and positivity:) Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 7:18 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > Oops, that is right. A goldy Black Lab. > > Well, OS 9.2.2 was actually given a funeral with Steve Jobs and a > coffin and everything to symbolize the end of OS 9.2.2 and the classic > apps and the beggining of OS X. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 18-Apr-09, at 5:38 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> lol. 11.0 chocolate lab. Goldie is a black lab, lol. that would be >> interesting if Steve Jobs saw her and fell in love with her royal >> cuteness and decided hey. I'mma name my next OS after this girl's >> guide dog. lol. >> >> for real, though, OS 9, 8, etc didn't have any names? aww. that's >> sad. >> everything deserves a name, lol. I should name them all after the >> fact. lol. >> peace and positivity:) >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 18-Apr-09, at 4:40 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> They had no names as far as I remember. >>> >>> Mac OS 11.0 "Chocolate Lab" A.K.A. "Goldy" Maybe. >>> >>> Well, the computers at that time actually had nicknames, not the >>> OS's. >>> These Apple regarded as code names, moddel names if you will. >>> >>> OS X is as follows: >>> >>> Beta release (Unknown) >>> 10.0 Puma >>> 10.1 Cheetah >>> 10.2 Jaguar >>> 10.3 Panther >>> 10.4 Tiger >>> 10.5 Leopard >>> 10.6 Snow Leopard >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>>> rest >>>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>>> before? lol. >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>>>> ran >>>>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>>>> reader. >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I >>>>>> did >>>>>> all >>>>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus >>>>>> was >>>>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash >>>>>> the >>>>>> 2C >>>>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>>> >>>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>>> My home page: >>>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
lol...that sounded like a cheesy infomercial! sorry but it did hahaha!! OS2.3!! the OS with a lot!!! lol lol omg I love this thread! long live oldschool mac nostalgia!!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 8:32 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > I keep trying to convince people they should name one of the OS's > Osalot. as in O S a lot! It's the operating system with a lot! ... > okay maybe it sounded better in m head. > > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
hmmm, yeah, I've noticed that about VO crashing more lately too. but the nice thing about VO is even if it has to crash, it fixes itself! so it's kind of annoying but really not that big of a deal cuz it knows it needs to be loyal to its user and it just comes back lol. but yeah, I've noticed and it would be nice if it didn't do that! big bang, lol. that's what they should've called vista! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 8:42 PM, Scott Bresnahan wrote: > > Greetings, > > I can't believe I am getting sucked into this. But System 7 was code > named Big Bang. I know this because I referred to it as the big > bust, since I thought 6.07 was much better and 7 broke many font and > text drawing routines in Mac apps and the foundations for true type > fonts were laid down. > > Then as I recall things went music based, I definitely recall > Allegro, Harmony and Sonata in the 8.x roadmap. And Rhapsody, the OS > that never came. > > Now, speaking of countless OS releases, I'm curious if people have > seen an increase crash rate under 10.5.x as x has been getting > higher. VoiceOver seems to be restarting several times a day now, > and I "feel" this is getting worse--or rather this seems like a more > frequent thing lately. > > Anyone else feel this way? > > --Scott > > . > > . > At 4:40 PM -0700 4/18/09, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> They had no names as far as I remember. >> >> Mac OS 11.0 "Chocolate Lab" A.K.A. "Goldy" Maybe. >> >> Well, the computers at that time actually had nicknames, not the >> OS's. >> These Apple regarded as code names, moddel names if you will. >> >> OS X is as follows: >> >> Beta release (Unknown) >> 10.0 Puma >> 10.1 Cheetah >> 10.2 Jaguar >> 10.3 Panther >> 10.4 Tiger >> 10.5 Leopard >> 10.6 Snow Leopard >> >> Thanks, >> Alex, >> >> >> >> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >> >>> >>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>> rest >>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>> before? lol. >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi. >>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>>> ran >>>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>>> reader. >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> >>>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I did >>>>> all >>>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus >>>>> was >>>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash the >>>>> 2C >>>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>> >>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>> My home page: >>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > -- > --Scott > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
haha, John, that youtube vid was great!! can't wait to check out the other ones Tiffany mentioned. this is good stuff! lol. I love it. "he never once flaunted his power...with a start menu." lol. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 9:05 PM, John J Herzog wrote: > > Hi all, > I know that mac OS 9.1 was named limelight and 9.2 was named > moonlight. I don't know what the others were before that. > Also, here is a great web site that talks about old school macs and > their current uses today. There's also a lot of older articles you > can click through and read. > http://www.lowendmac.com > Also, here's the youtube video link for the mac OS 9 funeral. > note: the audio is quite loud on this movie. and there is some organ > music before Steve Jobbs begins talking. I think this was an intro to > the mac world convention. > > here's the link. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl7xQ8i3fc0 > > On Apr 18, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> They had no names as far as I remember. >> >> Mac OS 11.0 "Chocolate Lab" A.K.A. "Goldy" Maybe. >> >> Well, the computers at that time actually had nicknames, not the >> OS's. >> These Apple regarded as code names, moddel names if you will. >> >> OS X is as follows: >> >> Beta release (Unknown) >> 10.0 Puma >> 10.1 Cheetah >> 10.2 Jaguar >> 10.3 Panther >> 10.4 Tiger >> 10.5 Leopard >> 10.6 Snow Leopard >> >> Thanks, >> Alex, >> >> >> >> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >> >>> >>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>> rest >>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>> before? lol. >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi. >>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>>> ran >>>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>>> reader. >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> >>>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I did >>>>> all >>>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus >>>>> was >>>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash the >>>>> 2C >>>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>> >>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>> My home page: >>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
I hope it doesn't either!! omg I asked my mom what happened to our old friend the mac from back in the day, and she just laughed and said she didn't know! like they threw it away or something!! I was apauled! I was like but...it's an antique!!! and she was like well, I'm using an antique now, wanna use it? referencing her poor athsmatic pc which is on its way out. lol. let us know how you make out gettin' on the internet with that thing!! I'm curious now! lol. I wonder what the default browser was before safari? peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 10:34 PM, Tiffany D wrote: > > Me too. Looking into getting a shell account and a modem for my GS. > I'm gonna get on the net with that thing! Hope it doesn't blow up. > rofl > > On 19/04/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >> >> lol...that sounded like a cheesy infomercial! sorry but it did >> hahaha!! OS2.3!! the OS with a lot!!! lol lol omg I love this thread! >> long live oldschool mac nostalgia!!! >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 18-Apr-09, at 8:32 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: >> >>> >>> I keep trying to convince people they should name one of the OS's >>> Osalot. as in O S a lot! It's the operating system with a lot! ... >>> okay maybe it sounded better in m head. >>> >>> >>> Mark BurningHawk >>> >>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>> My home page: >>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
OMG, space invadors!! I remember my brother playing that when we were little lol! wasn't there some other games that came with it too? a car racing one I think? and some other random ones? peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 9:26 PM, Tiffany D wrote: > > Does anyone know if something like this would be accessible for us > either on Windows or on Leopard? They said they're working on the Mac > one so that's why I asked. I don't mean with the graphical stuff but > with the things that are text-based... > http://www.virtualapple.org/ > I was thinking of suggesting the whole Dr. Pete's Talking Writer thing > with the six games, including Space Invaders. > > On 19/04/2009, John J Herzog wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I know that mac OS 9.1 was named limelight and 9.2 was named >> moonlight. I don't know what the others were before that. >> Also, here is a great web site that talks about old school macs and >> their current uses today. There's also a lot of older articles you >> can click through and read. >> http://www.lowendmac.com >> Also, here's the youtube video link for the mac OS 9 funeral. >> note: the audio is quite loud on this movie. and there is some organ >> music before Steve Jobbs begins talking. I think this was an intro to >> the mac world convention. >> >> here's the link. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl7xQ8i3fc0 >> >> On Apr 18, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> They had no names as far as I remember. >>> >>> Mac OS 11.0 "Chocolate Lab" A.K.A. "Goldy" Maybe. >>> >>> Well, the computers at that time actually had nicknames, not the >>> OS's. >>> These Apple regarded as code names, moddel names if you will. >>> >>> OS X is as follows: >>> >>> Beta release (Unknown) >>> 10.0 Puma >>> 10.1 Cheetah >>> 10.2 Jaguar >>> 10.3 Panther >>> 10.4 Tiger >>> 10.5 Leopard >>> 10.6 Snow Leopard >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>>> rest >>>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>>> before? lol. >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>>>> ran >>>>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>>>> reader. >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I >>>>>> did >>>>>> all >>>>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus >>>>>> was >>>>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash >>>>>> the >>>>>> 2C >>>>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>>> >>>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>>> My home page: >>>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
hmmm. I could've sworn there was a car racing game too. but maybe not? but my brain keeps telling me there was, it was called top speed or speed racing or something to do with speed! it existed, I know it did lol! my mom's computer isn't really an antique. it's a three year old toshiba laptop that just happened to have a bad life and hasn't quite aged gracefully. lol. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 10:54 PM, Tiffany D wrote: > > Hmm, now you got me curious. Let's see. > 1 talking writer > 2 typing game > 3 dragon maise > 4 space invaders > 5 music game > 6 exit > Don't ask me how I remembered that. I've got two disks with it > though. the one is the exact one I used in my elementary school days > and is warped but still works and the other works like new. Never > ever ask me if I wanna use your antique computer or you'll find it > missing and somewhere in my house. lol I have 12 different machines > from the II C to my latest Netbook. > > On 19/04/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >> >> OMG, space invadors!! I remember my brother playing that when we were >> little lol! wasn't there some other games that came with it too? a >> car >> racing one I think? and some other random ones? >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 18-Apr-09, at 9:26 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >> >>> >>> Does anyone know if something like this would be accessible for us >>> either on Windows or on Leopard? They said they're working on the >>> Mac >>> one so that's why I asked. I don't mean with the graphical stuff >>> but >>> with the things that are text-based... >>> http://www.virtualapple.org/ >>> I was thinking of suggesting the whole Dr. Pete's Talking Writer >>> thing >>> with the six games, including Space Invaders. >>> >>> On 19/04/2009, John J Herzog wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I know that mac OS 9.1 was named limelight and 9.2 was named >>>> moonlight. I don't know what the others were before that. >>>> Also, here is a great web site that talks about old school macs and >>>> their current uses today. There's also a lot of older articles you >>>> can click through and read. >>>> http://www.lowendmac.com >>>> Also, here's the youtube video link for the mac OS 9 funeral. >>>> note: the audio is quite loud on this movie. and there is some >>>> organ >>>> music before Steve Jobbs begins talking. I think this was an >>>> intro to >>>> the mac world convention. >>>> >>>> here's the link. >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl7xQ8i3fc0 >>>> >>>> On Apr 18, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> They had no names as far as I remember. >>>>> >>>>> Mac OS 11.0 "Chocolate Lab" A.K.A. "Goldy" Maybe. >>>>> >>>>> Well, the computers at that time actually had nicknames, not the >>>>> OS's. >>>>> These Apple regarded as code names, moddel names if you will. >>>>> >>>>> OS X is as follows: >>>>> >>>>> Beta release (Unknown) >>>>> 10.0 Puma >>>>> 10.1 Cheetah >>>>> 10.2 Jaguar >>>>> 10.3 Panther >>>>> 10.4 Tiger >>>>> 10.5 Leopard >>>>> 10.6 Snow Leopard >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>>>>> rest >>>>>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>>>>> before? lol. >>>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden >>>>>>> who >>>>>&g
Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
a dialup modem? On 18-Apr-09, at 11:09 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > I have an old Apple compatable modem I was just about to throw out. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 18-Apr-09, at 9:08 PM, Tiffany D wrote: > >> >> I thought it was just me with the restarting. But yes, I'm seeing >> this more as well and it's very annoying. The volume will go up and >> VoiceOver will restart. Thanks for the info on the names. Btw, if >> you type in Apple II Forever in youtube you'll find a really cool >> video and then the one after it is kind of funny. It's a description >> of the first Apples but at the time it was made, the II C was modern, >> so you'll hear things like the mouse being new and the wave of the >> future and how the idea of putting in an external disk drive was new. >> There are other cool videos too. We should make a list for blind >> retrocomputer users. >> >> I really really wanna see if I can get on the net with my II GS and >> that program from APH. But I probably need a shell account (which >> I've always wanted) to do that and an Apple-compatible modem. Wonder >> if I can boot it up in the Macbook under VMware and find a way to >> convince it I'm on the net through dialup? I just wanna see how it >> reads pages. >> >> On 18/04/2009, Scott Bresnahan wrote: >>> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I can't believe I am getting sucked into this. But System 7 was >>> code >>> named Big Bang. I know this because I referred to it as the big >>> bust, since I thought 6.07 was much better and 7 broke many font >>> and >>> text drawing routines in Mac apps and the foundations for true type >>> fonts were laid down. >>> >>> Then as I recall things went music based, I definitely recall >>> Allegro, Harmony and Sonata in the 8.x roadmap. And Rhapsody, the >>> OS >>> that never came. >>> >>> Now, speaking of countless OS releases, I'm curious if people have >>> seen an increase crash rate under 10.5.x as x has been getting >>> higher. VoiceOver seems to be restarting several times a day now, >>> and I "feel" this is getting worse--or rather this seems like a more >>> frequent thing lately. >>> >>> Anyone else feel this way? >>> >>> --Scott >>> >>> . >>> >>> . >>> At 4:40 PM -0700 4/18/09, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> They had no names as far as I remember. >>>> >>>> Mac OS 11.0 "Chocolate Lab" A.K.A. "Goldy" Maybe. >>>> >>>> Well, the computers at that time actually had nicknames, not the >>>> OS's. >>>> These Apple regarded as code names, moddel names if you will. >>>> >>>> OS X is as follows: >>>> >>>> Beta release (Unknown) >>>> 10.0 Puma >>>> 10.1 Cheetah >>>> 10.2 Jaguar >>>> 10.3 Panther >>>> 10.4 Tiger >>>> 10.5 Leopard >>>> 10.6 Snow Leopard >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>>>> rest >>>>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>>>> before? lol. >>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi. >>>>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it >>>>>> was >>>>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden >>>>>> who >>>>>> ran >>>>>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>>>>> reader. >>>>>> /Krister >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I >>>>>>> did >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>>>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> 2C >>>>>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>>>> My home page: >>>>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> --Scott >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
camino? hmm. never heard of it, lol. and IE? eww! lol. so glad safari was invented!! haha. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 18-Apr-09, at 11:06 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > The default browser was Camino and IE 5.5. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 18-Apr-09, at 10:44 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> I hope it doesn't either!! omg I asked my mom what happened to our >> old >> friend the mac from back in the day, and she just laughed and said >> she >> didn't know! like they threw it away or something!! I was >> apauled! >> I was like but...it's an antique!!! and she was like well, I'm using >> an antique now, wanna use it? referencing her poor athsmatic pc which >> is on its way out. lol. >> let us know how you make out gettin' on the internet with that >> thing!! >> I'm curious now! lol. I wonder what the default browser was before >> safari? >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 18-Apr-09, at 10:34 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >> >>> >>> Me too. Looking into getting a shell account and a modem for my GS. >>> I'm gonna get on the net with that thing! Hope it doesn't blow up. >>> rofl >>> >>> On 19/04/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>> >>>> lol...that sounded like a cheesy infomercial! sorry but it did >>>> hahaha!! OS2.3!! the OS with a lot!!! lol lol omg I love this >>>> thread! >>>> long live oldschool mac nostalgia!!! >>>> peace and positivity >>>> Jessi >>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 8:32 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I keep trying to convince people they should name one of the OS's >>>>> Osalot. as in O S a lot! It's the operating system with a >>>>> lot! ... >>>>> okay maybe it sounded better in m head. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>> >>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>> My home page: >>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
yeah, that would be interesting, a history lesson about accessibility. although, it doesn't seem like there was too much accessibility before VO. outspoken seemed like it only did so much. that's funny people were protesting against GUI's though, although I can see how they might think that. I'm sure going from a completely text based command line to a completely graphical interface would've been scary back in the day. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hi, > There were no such names as "tiger" or "leopard" at that time. As far > as i remember the system was called "system 7". I think it was called > "Macos" from v8 or possibly v9 but i can be wrong. > It would be interesting with a little history lesson from a blindness > perspective of apple products through the years. For example, when did > the Mac become accessible for the first time and what were the > reactions back then? Here in Sweden in the year of 1989, the > organization for the young visually impaired actually demonstrated > against the coming GUIs. They thought that that would more or less be > the death of accessibility to computers for the blind and the threat > was called Macintosh. > /Krister > > > 18 apr 2009 kl. 21.59 skrev Jessi Rathwell: > >> >> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the rest >> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >> before? lol. >> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi. >>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>> ran >>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>> reader. >>> /Krister >>> >>> >>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>> >>>> >>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I did >>>> all >>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus was >>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash the >>>> 2C >>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>> >>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>> My home page: >>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
ooh, I'm jealous too!! I'd love to play with it and see what it was really like!! I didn't get the full experience when I was little. wow!!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 3:08 PM, Cameron wrote: > > Hi. I agree. Back in the day, When I used Outspoken on my > Macintosh II S > I, and then on my powerbook later, I was able to get many things > done and I > found it to be an efficient way to work. I really grew to like > outspoken as > well as my macs. > > I found outspoken's commands and implementation very logical. > > It didn't get in the way of work flow. > > And yes, the mark feature was nice to have! > > That mac II S I, which I bought second hand, was my first computer. > I loved > that little box and it never crashed on me or anything. > > I remember using one of the very early macs, the classic with the > grayscale > screen, years and years ago. > > My memories of making the switch over to windows 95 and jfw 3.2 I > think it > was, are not as nice. > > Cameron. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 2:59 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: oldschool mac nostalgia > > > Hey there. > I sorta have to protest here.:-) Outspoken was a hell of a good screen > reader for being as primitive as it seemed. Ok, you didn't have all > those fancy things you can do nowadays with screen readers, but it had > quite a lot of inventive tricks that you could do. For graphical > objects that couldn't be recognized, i.e you knew the position of the > object, but you didn't see a graphic, there was a "mark" feature that > saved its marks on a per application basis, as i recall. You could > name a position and then go to that position by typing the name you > gave it. Vo has something similar in its bookmarks and hotspots, only > you can't save the positions and they disappear as soon as you close a > document and or an application. Too bad in my opinion. > There were other things too that were very clever, for example the way > they had solved the drag and drop problem. > /Krister > > > 19 apr 2009 kl. 11.23 skrev Jessi Rathwell: > >> >> yeah, that would be interesting, a history lesson about >> accessibility. >> although, it doesn't seem like there was too much accessibility >> before >> VO. outspoken seemed like it only did so much. that's funny people >> were protesting against GUI's though, although I can see how they >> might think that. I'm sure going from a completely text based command >> line to a completely graphical interface would've been scary back in >> the day. >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 19-Apr-09, at 2:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> There were no such names as "tiger" or "leopard" at that time. As >>> far >>> as i remember the system was called "system 7". I think it was >>> called >>> "Macos" from v8 or possibly v9 but i can be wrong. >>> It would be interesting with a little history lesson from a >>> blindness >>> perspective of apple products through the years. For example, when >>> did >>> the Mac become accessible for the first time and what were the >>> reactions back then? Here in Sweden in the year of 1989, the >>> organization for the young visually impaired actually demonstrated >>> against the coming GUIs. They thought that that would more or less >>> be >>> the death of accessibility to computers for the blind and the threat >>> was called Macintosh. >>> /Krister >>> >>> >>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 21.59 skrev Jessi Rathwell: >>> >>>> >>>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>>> rest >>>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>>> before? lol. >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>>>
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
hmmm, sounds interesting!! it must be one of the rarer browsers, lol. cuz I never see any pages like if you have camino, click here for optimal page performance! lol. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:23 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > It is like FF customized for Mac. It is still out there. It is like > native FF for Mac made by Mozilla. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 19-Apr-09, at 2:11 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> camino? hmm. never heard of it, lol. and IE? eww! lol. so glad safari >> was invented!! haha. >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:06 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The default browser was Camino and IE 5.5. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 10:44 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I hope it doesn't either!! omg I asked my mom what happened to our >>>> old >>>> friend the mac from back in the day, and she just laughed and said >>>> she >>>> didn't know! like they threw it away or something!! I was >>>> apauled! >>>> I was like but...it's an antique!!! and she was like well, I'm >>>> using >>>> an antique now, wanna use it? referencing her poor athsmatic pc >>>> which >>>> is on its way out. lol. >>>> let us know how you make out gettin' on the internet with that >>>> thing!! >>>> I'm curious now! lol. I wonder what the default browser was before >>>> safari? >>>> peace and positivity >>>> Jessi >>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 10:34 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Me too. Looking into getting a shell account and a modem for my >>>>> GS. >>>>> I'm gonna get on the net with that thing! Hope it doesn't blow >>>>> up. >>>>> rofl >>>>> >>>>> On 19/04/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> lol...that sounded like a cheesy infomercial! sorry but it did >>>>>> hahaha!! OS2.3!! the OS with a lot!!! lol lol omg I love this >>>>>> thread! >>>>>> long live oldschool mac nostalgia!!! >>>>>> peace and positivity >>>>>> Jessi >>>>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 8:32 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I keep trying to convince people they should name one of the >>>>>>> OS's >>>>>>> Osalot. as in O S a lot! It's the operating system with a >>>>>>> lot! ... >>>>>>> okay maybe it sounded better in m head. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>>>> My home page: >>>>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
hahahaha! what's up, dude? that's cute, lol. I need to change mine! right now it says the boring welcome to macintosh. voiceover is running. I need a cute greeting. lol. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 12:17 PM, Eliza Cooper wrote: > > VO restarts on my Mac once every few days, I'd say, but I kind of find > it amusing. The volume doesn't change, but Alex greets me with > "What's up, dude?", and I love the way he says it. It's as if he's > just checking in on me hahaha. >Eliza > On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:08 AM, Tiffany D wrote: > >> >> I thought it was just me with the restarting. But yes, I'm seeing >> this more as well and it's very annoying. The volume will go up and >> VoiceOver will restart. Thanks for the info on the names. Btw, if >> you type in Apple II Forever in youtube you'll find a really cool >> video and then the one after it is kind of funny. It's a description >> of the first Apples but at the time it was made, the II C was modern, >> so you'll hear things like the mouse being new and the wave of the >> future and how the idea of putting in an external disk drive was new. >> There are other cool videos too. We should make a list for blind >> retrocomputer users. >> >> I really really wanna see if I can get on the net with my II GS and >> that program from APH. But I probably need a shell account (which >> I've always wanted) to do that and an Apple-compatible modem. Wonder >> if I can boot it up in the Macbook under VMware and find a way to >> convince it I'm on the net through dialup? I just wanna see how it >> reads pages. >> >> On 18/04/2009, Scott Bresnahan wrote: >>> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I can't believe I am getting sucked into this. But System 7 was >>> code >>> named Big Bang. I know this because I referred to it as the big >>> bust, since I thought 6.07 was much better and 7 broke many font >>> and >>> text drawing routines in Mac apps and the foundations for true type >>> fonts were laid down. >>> >>> Then as I recall things went music based, I definitely recall >>> Allegro, Harmony and Sonata in the 8.x roadmap. And Rhapsody, the >>> OS >>> that never came. >>> >>> Now, speaking of countless OS releases, I'm curious if people have >>> seen an increase crash rate under 10.5.x as x has been getting >>> higher. VoiceOver seems to be restarting several times a day now, >>> and I "feel" this is getting worse--or rather this seems like a more >>> frequent thing lately. >>> >>> Anyone else feel this way? >>> >>> --Scott >>> >>> . >>> >>> . >>> At 4:40 PM -0700 4/18/09, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> They had no names as far as I remember. >>>> >>>> Mac OS 11.0 "Chocolate Lab" A.K.A. "Goldy" Maybe. >>>> >>>> Well, the computers at that time actually had nicknames, not the >>>> OS's. >>>> These Apple regarded as code names, moddel names if you will. >>>> >>>> OS X is as follows: >>>> >>>> Beta release (Unknown) >>>> 10.0 Puma >>>> 10.1 Cheetah >>>> 10.2 Jaguar >>>> 10.3 Panther >>>> 10.4 Tiger >>>> 10.5 Leopard >>>> 10.6 Snow Leopard >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>>>> rest >>>>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>>>> before? lol. >>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi. >>>>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it >>>>>> was >>>>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden >>>>>> who >>>>>> ran >>>>>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>>>>> reader. >>>>>> /Krister >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I >>>>>>> did >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>>>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> 2C >>>>>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>>>> My home page: >>>>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> --Scott >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
aww. things that are just numbers make me sad. nothing should be just a number. lol. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 7:49 AM, kaare dehard wrote: > > the old os's were just numbered, no nice marketing stuff like cat > names. Just a number. > On 18-Apr-09, at 3:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the rest >> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >> before? lol. >> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi. >>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>> ran >>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>> reader. >>> /Krister >>> >>> >>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>> >>>> >>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I did >>>> all >>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus was >>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash the >>>> 2C >>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>> >>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>> My home page: >>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
yeah, I get questions like that all the time. how easy it to do this? you use the mac for everything? wow. like they don't believe it can work or something. it's sad!! I know apple wasn't always known for its accessibility in the past but they're really really doing a complete 180 and changing things now and people need to start realizing that!! I'm sure they will though, once more people see the mac in action. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 7:29 AM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > I gave a presentation on the use of the Mac with OutSpoken to the > Visually Impaired and Blind User's Group in 1990, shortly after moving > to Boston, MA to take a job in which I used the Mac and OutSpoken to > perform my job duties. At the time, a rep from one of the local > institutions who was an expert in IBM and PC clone adaptive tech-- > stuff like Vert, I think, even before VocalEyes--got up and started > asking me about all the negatives about OutSpoken; what can't I do? > Isn't it hard to do this? and that? I was 21 and very naive, and > didn't know how to effectively counter this strategy, so the Mac with > OutSpoken didn't have the advocate it should have had. I think this > persecution persists even today--my DOR worker keeps subtilely > intimating that I'm wasting my time with the Mac, because the business > world is PC geared. *shrug* > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
lol nice!!! man I wish we still had that old mac, I'd love so badly to dig it up and see if it still worked lol. sadness. someone really needs to put all these amazing old things in one room and we can all come visit. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 7:23 AM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > For the Apple II series there was a game called Nightcrawler. which > was a knock-off of the centipede game for arcade machines. I made > geek fame by scoring first or second in every Nightcrawler Apple II > gathering we would take over the computer room for. *grin* I also > remember those talking games for the Apple like Space INvaders and so > on--one summer, while living in Vermont, I helped teach the summer > camp course on computers, including the Apple and Versa Braille and > Braille Edit and so on... > > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Flash and VO alternative
sounds good, if we can do it, is it open source or something? hopefully better flash support will be there in snow leopard! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:34 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > If we could make GNash accessible on the Mac, it is an implimentation > of Flash that we can modify. Sure it isn't full blown Flash support, > but better than what we have now. > > What do you think? > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
lol. well, if we can convince skytrain to expand and come all the way out here so I'm not stuck in this boring prison town, I'll gladly come over to your house and see it! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:37 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > Jessi, > > It is called my server room. Full of like all this old stuff. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 19-Apr-09, at 2:34 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> lol nice!!! man I wish we still had that old mac, I'd love so badly >> to >> dig it up and see if it still worked lol. sadness. someone really >> needs to put all these amazing old things in one room and we can all >> come visit. >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 19-Apr-09, at 7:23 AM, Mark Baxter wrote: >> >>> >>> For the Apple II series there was a game called Nightcrawler. which >>> was a knock-off of the centipede game for arcade machines. I made >>> geek fame by scoring first or second in every Nightcrawler Apple II >>> gathering we would take over the computer room for. *grin* I also >>> remember those talking games for the Apple like Space INvaders and >>> so >>> on--one summer, while living in Vermont, I helped teach the summer >>> camp course on computers, including the Apple and Versa Braille and >>> Braille Edit and so on... >>> >>> >>> Mark BurningHawk >>> >>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>> My home page: >>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
was it accessible? cuz I'm thinking, if they've got the engine built and customized for mac, wouldn't it be easy to tweek it a little and integrade accessibility to firefox? peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > It is the same engine as Firefox. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 19-Apr-09, at 2:27 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> hmmm, sounds interesting!! it must be one of the rarer browsers, lol. >> cuz I never see any pages like if you have camino, click here for >> optimal page performance! lol. >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 19-Apr-09, at 2:23 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> It is like FF customized for Mac. It is still out there. It is like >>> native FF for Mac made by Mozilla. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 19-Apr-09, at 2:11 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> camino? hmm. never heard of it, lol. and IE? eww! lol. so glad >>>> safari >>>> was invented!! haha. >>>> peace and positivity >>>> Jessi >>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:06 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> The default browser was Camino and IE 5.5. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 10:44 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope it doesn't either!! omg I asked my mom what happened to >>>>>> our >>>>>> old >>>>>> friend the mac from back in the day, and she just laughed and >>>>>> said >>>>>> she >>>>>> didn't know! like they threw it away or something!! I was >>>>>> apauled! >>>>>> I was like but...it's an antique!!! and she was like well, I'm >>>>>> using >>>>>> an antique now, wanna use it? referencing her poor athsmatic pc >>>>>> which >>>>>> is on its way out. lol. >>>>>> let us know how you make out gettin' on the internet with that >>>>>> thing!! >>>>>> I'm curious now! lol. I wonder what the default browser was >>>>>> before >>>>>> safari? >>>>>> peace and positivity >>>>>> Jessi >>>>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 10:34 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Me too. Looking into getting a shell account and a modem for my >>>>>>> GS. >>>>>>> I'm gonna get on the net with that thing! Hope it doesn't blow >>>>>>> up. >>>>>>> rofl >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 19/04/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lol...that sounded like a cheesy infomercial! sorry but it did >>>>>>>> hahaha!! OS2.3!! the OS with a lot!!! lol lol omg I love this >>>>>>>> thread! >>>>>>>> long live oldschool mac nostalgia!!! >>>>>>>> peace and positivity >>>>>>>> Jessi >>>>>>>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>>>>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 8:32 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I keep trying to convince people they should name one of the >>>>>>>>> OS's >>>>>>>>> Osalot. as in O S a lot! It's the operating system with a >>>>>>>>> lot! ... >>>>>>>>> okay maybe it sounded better in m head. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>>>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>> My home page: >>>>>>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
hey now!!! I'm much more than a number. lol. my student number does not define me. lol. and nor should these numbers of these old OS's. they should stand up for their rights to be named! lol peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > Jessi, > > Like students in a university. Lol. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 19-Apr-09, at 2:30 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> aww. things that are just numbers make me sad. nothing should be just >> a number. lol. >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 19-Apr-09, at 7:49 AM, kaare dehard wrote: >> >>> >>> the old os's were just numbered, no nice marketing stuff like cat >>> names. Just a number. >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 3:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>>> rest >>>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>>> before? lol. >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>>>> ran >>>>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>>>> reader. >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I >>>>>> did >>>>>> all >>>>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus >>>>>> was >>>>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash >>>>>> the >>>>>> 2C >>>>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>>> >>>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>>> My home page: >>>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
lol so glad you showed Matthew the good side. I wish I could help you. I'd be glad too if I lived closer. I'd love to show people the wonders of voiceover. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > Matthew, one of my students has it saying "Yo Dude, ... Welcome" or > something. > > In case yall didn't know I'm a tech teacher in BC now. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 19-Apr-09, at 2:29 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> hahahaha! what's up, dude? that's cute, lol. I need to change mine! >> right now it says the boring welcome to macintosh. voiceover is >> running. I need a cute greeting. lol. >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 19-Apr-09, at 12:17 PM, Eliza Cooper wrote: >> >>> >>> VO restarts on my Mac once every few days, I'd say, but I kind of >>> find >>> it amusing. The volume doesn't change, but Alex greets me with >>> "What's up, dude?", and I love the way he says it. It's as if he's >>> just checking in on me hahaha. >>> Eliza >>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:08 AM, Tiffany D wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I thought it was just me with the restarting. But yes, I'm seeing >>>> this more as well and it's very annoying. The volume will go up >>>> and >>>> VoiceOver will restart. Thanks for the info on the names. Btw, if >>>> you type in Apple II Forever in youtube you'll find a really cool >>>> video and then the one after it is kind of funny. It's a >>>> description >>>> of the first Apples but at the time it was made, the II C was >>>> modern, >>>> so you'll hear things like the mouse being new and the wave of the >>>> future and how the idea of putting in an external disk drive was >>>> new. >>>> There are other cool videos too. We should make a list for blind >>>> retrocomputer users. >>>> >>>> I really really wanna see if I can get on the net with my II GS and >>>> that program from APH. But I probably need a shell account (which >>>> I've always wanted) to do that and an Apple-compatible modem. >>>> Wonder >>>> if I can boot it up in the Macbook under VMware and find a way to >>>> convince it I'm on the net through dialup? I just wanna see how it >>>> reads pages. >>>> >>>> On 18/04/2009, Scott Bresnahan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> >>>>> I can't believe I am getting sucked into this. But System 7 was >>>>> code >>>>> named Big Bang. I know this because I referred to it as the big >>>>> bust, since I thought 6.07 was much better and 7 broke many font >>>>> and >>>>> text drawing routines in Mac apps and the foundations for true >>>>> type >>>>> fonts were laid down. >>>>> >>>>> Then as I recall things went music based, I definitely recall >>>>> Allegro, Harmony and Sonata in the 8.x roadmap. And Rhapsody, the >>>>> OS >>>>> that never came. >>>>> >>>>> Now, speaking of countless OS releases, I'm curious if people have >>>>> seen an increase crash rate under 10.5.x as x has been getting >>>>> higher. VoiceOver seems to be restarting several times a day now, >>>>> and I "feel" this is getting worse--or rather this seems like a >>>>> more >>>>> frequent thing lately. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone else feel this way? >>>>> >>>>> --Scott >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> At 4:40 PM -0700 4/18/09, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> They had no names as far as I remember. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mac OS 11.0 "Chocolate Lab" A.K.A. "Goldy" Maybe. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, the computers at that time actually had nicknames, not the >>>>>> OS's. >>>>>> These Apple regarded as code names, moddel names if you will. >>>>>> >>>>>> OS X is as follows: >>>>>>
Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
oh, dang. you read my mind, lol. I was thinking I could use it. I'm lookin' for a dialup modem that works with USB. if such a thing even exists! having to use my pc when I'm at my cabin is just not cool. I wouldn't mind so much if it was a decently working pc, but it's almost as bad as my mom's and I'm too lazy to fix it up cuz I rarely use it. maybe that'll be a project for one day when I'm really bored...trying to get it back up to speed and non crashingness! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:43 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > Jessi, It won't work for you with USB. It is for the old ADB > connection I think. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 18-Apr-09, at 11:16 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> a dialup modem? >> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:09 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have an old Apple compatable modem I was just about to throw out. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 9:08 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I thought it was just me with the restarting. But yes, I'm seeing >>>> this more as well and it's very annoying. The volume will go up >>>> and >>>> VoiceOver will restart. Thanks for the info on the names. Btw, if >>>> you type in Apple II Forever in youtube you'll find a really cool >>>> video and then the one after it is kind of funny. It's a >>>> description >>>> of the first Apples but at the time it was made, the II C was >>>> modern, >>>> so you'll hear things like the mouse being new and the wave of the >>>> future and how the idea of putting in an external disk drive was >>>> new. >>>> There are other cool videos too. We should make a list for blind >>>> retrocomputer users. >>>> >>>> I really really wanna see if I can get on the net with my II GS and >>>> that program from APH. But I probably need a shell account (which >>>> I've always wanted) to do that and an Apple-compatible modem. >>>> Wonder >>>> if I can boot it up in the Macbook under VMware and find a way to >>>> convince it I'm on the net through dialup? I just wanna see how it >>>> reads pages. >>>> >>>> On 18/04/2009, Scott Bresnahan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> >>>>> I can't believe I am getting sucked into this. But System 7 was >>>>> code >>>>> named Big Bang. I know this because I referred to it as the big >>>>> bust, since I thought 6.07 was much better and 7 broke many font >>>>> and >>>>> text drawing routines in Mac apps and the foundations for true >>>>> type >>>>> fonts were laid down. >>>>> >>>>> Then as I recall things went music based, I definitely recall >>>>> Allegro, Harmony and Sonata in the 8.x roadmap. And Rhapsody, the >>>>> OS >>>>> that never came. >>>>> >>>>> Now, speaking of countless OS releases, I'm curious if people have >>>>> seen an increase crash rate under 10.5.x as x has been getting >>>>> higher. VoiceOver seems to be restarting several times a day now, >>>>> and I "feel" this is getting worse--or rather this seems like a >>>>> more >>>>> frequent thing lately. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone else feel this way? >>>>> >>>>> --Scott >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> At 4:40 PM -0700 4/18/09, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> They had no names as far as I remember. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mac OS 11.0 "Chocolate Lab" A.K.A. "Goldy" Maybe. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, the computers at that time actually had nicknames, not the >>>>>> OS's. >>>>>> These Apple regarded as code names, moddel names if you will. >>>>>> >>>>>> OS X is as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> Beta release (Unknown) >>>>>> 10.0 Puma >>>>>> 10
Re: Flash and VO alternative
yeah, that's what I've heard, that they're really against the idea. how did they get it working half decently with windows, then? were the adobe people more willing to work with windows or did the windows screenreader developers do it themselves? and if they did, why can't apple developers do the same thing? peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:42 PM, Greg Kearney wrote: > > Flash support will have to come from Adobe and not Apple, and Adobe > has shown no interest, and in fact has been down right hostile to the > idea of doing so. > Greg Kearney > 535 S. Jackson St. > Casper, Wyoming 82601 > 307-224-4022 > gkear...@gmail.com > > > > On 19/04/2009, at 3:38 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> sounds good, if we can do it, is it open source or something? >> hopefully better flash support will be there in snow leopard! >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 19-Apr-09, at 2:34 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> If we could make GNash accessible on the Mac, it is an >>> implimentation >>> of Flash that we can modify. Sure it isn't full blown Flash support, >>> but better than what we have now. >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
hmm. maybe I'll look into it!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 3:21 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Apple makes a usb-based modem. Last I checked it was about $56 US. > On Apr 19, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> oh, dang. you read my mind, lol. I was thinking I could use it. I'm >> lookin' for a dialup modem that works with USB. if such a thing even >> exists! having to use my pc when I'm at my cabin is just not cool. I >> wouldn't mind so much if it was a decently working pc, but it's >> almost >> as bad as my mom's and I'm too lazy to fix it up cuz I rarely use it. >> maybe that'll be a project for one day when I'm really bored...trying >> to get it back up to speed and non crashingness! >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 19-Apr-09, at 2:43 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> Jessi, It won't work for you with USB. It is for the old ADB >>> connection I think. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:16 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> a dialup modem? >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:09 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have an old Apple compatable modem I was just about to throw >>>>> out. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 9:08 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought it was just me with the restarting. But yes, I'm >>>>>> seeing >>>>>> this more as well and it's very annoying. The volume will go up >>>>>> and >>>>>> VoiceOver will restart. Thanks for the info on the names. Btw, >>>>>> if >>>>>> you type in Apple II Forever in youtube you'll find a really cool >>>>>> video and then the one after it is kind of funny. It's a >>>>>> description >>>>>> of the first Apples but at the time it was made, the II C was >>>>>> modern, >>>>>> so you'll hear things like the mouse being new and the wave of >>>>>> the >>>>>> future and how the idea of putting in an external disk drive was >>>>>> new. >>>>>> There are other cool videos too. We should make a list for blind >>>>>> retrocomputer users. >>>>>> >>>>>> I really really wanna see if I can get on the net with my II GS >>>>>> and >>>>>> that program from APH. But I probably need a shell account >>>>>> (which >>>>>> I've always wanted) to do that and an Apple-compatible modem. >>>>>> Wonder >>>>>> if I can boot it up in the Macbook under VMware and find a way to >>>>>> convince it I'm on the net through dialup? I just wanna see how >>>>>> it >>>>>> reads pages. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18/04/2009, Scott Bresnahan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can't believe I am getting sucked into this. But System 7 was >>>>>>> code >>>>>>> named Big Bang. I know this because I referred to it as the >>>>>>> big >>>>>>> bust, since I thought 6.07 was much better and 7 broke many >>>>>>> font >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> text drawing routines in Mac apps and the foundations for true >>>>>>> type >>>>>>> fonts were laid down. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then as I recall things went music based, I definitely recall >>>>>>> Allegro, Harmony and Sonata in the 8.x roadmap. And Rhapsody, >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> OS >>>>>>> that never came. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, speaking of countless OS releases, I'm curious if people >>>>>>> have
Re: Accessible Version Of Office
I think open office is the one you were thinking of. it's free and somewhat accessible. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 20-Apr-09, at 8:12 AM, M AUSTEN wrote: > > > Thanks EVERYONE. Mainly need to replace Word. > > Mark > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jane Jordan (GMail) > wrote: > >> From: Jane Jordan (GMail) >> Subject: Re: Accessible Version Of Office >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 2:25 PM >> Open Office >> www.openoffice.org >> >> Jane >> - Original Message - >> From: "M AUSTEN" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:43 AM >> Subject: Accessible Version Of Office >> >> >> >> >> Good Morning, >> >> I need to replace MS Office on my Mac with a VO friendly >> package. >> >> A little while ago I read about a VO friendly accessible >> Office application >> which could replace MS Office on my Mac. It was available >> as a free >> download. I can't remember the name of the software or >> where to find it. >> >> I am currently running one of the first iMAC G5's and >> will at sometime >> upgrade to one of the latest 20" iMac systems. >> >> Can anyone help me locate the software? >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Tweetie for Mac
hey, try twitteriffic. it's an awesome twitter client that's accessible! probably doesnt have as many features as tweetie, but it's cool!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 20-Apr-09, at 8:39 AM, Larry Wanger wrote: > > Hi, > > FYI, I just tested a new Mac desktop app called Tweetie. Its made by > the same peeps who make the Tweetie application for the iPhone. > Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work well with VO. It looks like a > terrific program but I can not get VO to interact with the program. > Just thought I'd pass this on. If someone else has better luck let me > know. > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
haha. well, you try it and let me know how it is and then I'll think about it lol. I wanna make sure it works first though!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 20-Apr-09, at 6:20 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > Jessi, > > I'll try to see if I can bring it up under USB using the onboard and > offboard adapters. If I can, YOu are welcome to it. I hate seeing > people struggle with PCs. Just pay shipping and handleing or > alternatively my time going to Abisford, depending which is cheaper. > Lol. > > Just kidding about my time. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 19-Apr-09, at 2:54 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> oh, dang. you read my mind, lol. I was thinking I could use it. I'm >> lookin' for a dialup modem that works with USB. if such a thing even >> exists! having to use my pc when I'm at my cabin is just not cool. I >> wouldn't mind so much if it was a decently working pc, but it's >> almost >> as bad as my mom's and I'm too lazy to fix it up cuz I rarely use it. >> maybe that'll be a project for one day when I'm really bored...trying >> to get it back up to speed and non crashingness! >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 19-Apr-09, at 2:43 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> Jessi, It won't work for you with USB. It is for the old ADB >>> connection I think. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:16 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> a dialup modem? >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 11:09 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have an old Apple compatable modem I was just about to throw >>>>> out. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 9:08 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought it was just me with the restarting. But yes, I'm >>>>>> seeing >>>>>> this more as well and it's very annoying. The volume will go up >>>>>> and >>>>>> VoiceOver will restart. Thanks for the info on the names. Btw, >>>>>> if >>>>>> you type in Apple II Forever in youtube you'll find a really cool >>>>>> video and then the one after it is kind of funny. It's a >>>>>> description >>>>>> of the first Apples but at the time it was made, the II C was >>>>>> modern, >>>>>> so you'll hear things like the mouse being new and the wave of >>>>>> the >>>>>> future and how the idea of putting in an external disk drive was >>>>>> new. >>>>>> There are other cool videos too. We should make a list for blind >>>>>> retrocomputer users. >>>>>> >>>>>> I really really wanna see if I can get on the net with my II GS >>>>>> and >>>>>> that program from APH. But I probably need a shell account >>>>>> (which >>>>>> I've always wanted) to do that and an Apple-compatible modem. >>>>>> Wonder >>>>>> if I can boot it up in the Macbook under VMware and find a way to >>>>>> convince it I'm on the net through dialup? I just wanna see how >>>>>> it >>>>>> reads pages. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18/04/2009, Scott Bresnahan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can't believe I am getting sucked into this. But System 7 was >>>>>>> code >>>>>>> named Big Bang. I know this because I referred to it as the >>>>>>> big >>>>>>> bust, since I thought 6.07 was much better and 7 broke many >>>>>>> font >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> text drawing routines in Mac apps and the foundations for true >>>>>>> type >>>>>>> fonts were laid down. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> T
Re: oldschool mac nostalgia
wow. I don't remember any of this stuff but it sure is interesting reading about it!! it seems strange t think that so many f ya'll were using apple computers back in the day in college. were pc's completely inaccessible then or were you all just mac enthusiasts from the beginning? peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 21-Apr-09, at 6:37 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > Jessie Casum. I had such a crush on Jessie Casun or whatever he name > was. I talked to her once when I was asking a question about Bex. I > used Bex all the way through college to do my papers. Either Bex or > Prowords, but more often Bex. I had a spell checker for it, even, but > it never worked right. It came on double-sided disks and if you had > good timing, you could pull out the disk at one point and flip it over > and shortcut some of the menus to get to the Bex main menu. > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Downloading unplayed podcasts in iTunes...
hey Mike, if you hit contextual menu on them (VO shift m) there should be a choice in there that says "download podcast" or something. VO space on that and it'll download the episode. then you can hit enter or space to play it. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 23-Apr-09, at 6:34 PM, Mike wrote: > > Hi all: > > I have recently subscribed to a caouple of podcasts which have back > epasodes. > How do I download and play the back epasodes? I see them in my list > but when I press enter or the space bar, nothing happens. > They are listed as undownloaded. > > Thanks all: > > Mike > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: introduction
Andrea, you don't need to buy anything separate, well unless you want a braille display and then you'd have to buy one of those. but as far as using a mac with leopard, all you need is the computer. voiceover, like it did in tiger, comes built into leopard. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 22-Apr-09, at 2:20 PM, Andrea and Zeta! wrote: > > Hi there, thanks for the intro. I went to an apple shop today and I > saw the > leopard software in action. It's good, but I was told that I need to > buy two > other things for blind and partially sighted users. I don't know how > true > this is, as the newest mac in the shop apparently needs these two > applications. I can't remember what they are, but maybe someone > would have a > better idea? > take care love > > Andrea and Zeta! > xxx > Vale touched the hearts of everyone she met. She will live on forever! > Check out her fundraising page! > Please visit: > www.justgiving.com/valiestar > > www.paws4guidedogs.co.uk > > Is a site run by guide dog owners in Northern Ireland. Take a look > at the > site and find out what we're up too! > - Original Message - > From: "Ben King" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:24 AM > Subject: Re: introduction > > >> >> Dear Andrea, >> >> You will love your Apple. >> I have been very pleased with mine. and there are wonderful podcasts >> to listen to. The Screenlessswitchers is a great podcast as well as >> Lioncourt.com. I hope this helps. >> Blessings, >> Ben King >> On Apr 19, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Andrea, Zeta Vale and Trudy bell! wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi there Mark, wow thanks for that. I'm not sure whether to have a >>> windows >>> program running on the mac or not and if so what? >>> I have 2 gig of ram on it and a 160 hard drive. I don't know >>> therefore, if >>> running vista would work that well. I really can't wait to get it. >>> I did hear alex on the voice over speech today and it's quite clear. >>> Easier >>> than jaws to listen too and clearer in some ways, more human-like >>> maybe the >>> better way to describe it. >>> >>> I'll not be getting rid of my vista machine, but I can't wait to get >>> this >>> mac. I just can't wait to use it. I know the sound quality on it is >>> brilliant. >>> >>> take care and I will definitely give you a shout when I get it. I >>> think, I'm >>> going to need a great deal of help. >>> take care >>> >>> Andrea, Zeta Vale and Trudy! >>> xxx >>> Vale touched the hearts of everyone she met. She will live on >>> forever! >>> Check out her fundraising page! >>> Please visit: >>> www.justgiving.com/valiestar >>> >>> www.paws4guidedogs.co.uk >>> >>> Is a site run by guide dog owners in Northern Ireland. Take a look >>> at the >>> site and find out what we're up too! >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Mark Baxter" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 6:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: introduction >>> >>> Hi, Andrea: I was using a Mac back in the early 1990's with OutSpoken, which was not built in to the OS. I would say that Voiceover in the latest version of Leopard is similar to but far superior to that. I just switched from my XP machine in January, and have not gone back. I also have Vista running on this Macbook as well, so can do anything in Windows I need to. I offer tutoring and support as well, so if you need me, give me a shout. I know you'll have a lot of fun with it, especially if you're the type that thinks like a musician--it's built in that intuitive, fuzzy logic sort o way. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Accessibility of services at talkshoe.com
oh, wow, you got in there to listen? sweet. I tried, but couldn't figure it out. I didn't try very hard though, I must admit lol...I figured if I couldn't get in to listen to the live podcast I'd just listen when the AAC stream came out on itunes and I guess that's what I'll have to do. I'm curious about it, though!! I love the mac observers podcast. those guys are so funny and they seem to know a lot. I encouraged them to check out voiceover and they said they would. sucks the quality was so low, though. hopefully when it hits AAC someone will have fixed it so the quality is better!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 28-Apr-09, at 12:40 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Ah Opera is a browser which I haven't really played with at all. > Will have to check it out. And I read on the talkshoe.com site, that > there is a mac client,which was last updated a couple of years ago, > I tried that, and all I found in the main window, were two radio > buttons, one to participate in an existing conference call, and one to > create a call, and a go to website button. And some things that just > read as blank, text. I however was able to get in there, and at least > listen, with the web client they had. And frankly, I wasn't impressed > with the quality. It was very low quality audio, like 24KBPS, or > maybe even 16KBPS. Even worse than Skype. I thought it would be a > lot better. > On Apr 28, 2009, at 2:40 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > > H, > > Therefore it is accessible using Opera. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 27-Apr-09, at 11:26 PM, Scott Rutkowski wrote: > >> >> Hi there. >> >> as far as I know the talk shoe software uses java so i don't think >> it's accessible. I know on the windows side there is a client that >> from memory is accessible but from what I have heard on the mac it's >> using java. >> >> >> On 28/04/2009, at 4:53 AM, Orin wrote: >> >>> >>> Sadly, I think this is inaccessible. I did a show once, but I had to >>> have a sighted friend manage the software, etc he had to host it. It >>> may be better now though. >>> On Apr 27, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >>> Hi all, Found this service because one of the podcasts that's available form macobserver.com the mac Geek gab, is going to use it to hold their 200th show on. Anybody tried this, and if so is it accessible? In looking at the information on what it's about, it sounds pretty cool. > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: introduction
Andrea, if the new one isn't too much more, I'd probably go with that. I'm sure the second hand one is okay, but there's just something about buying new technology...you know it's all in working order and there hasn't been any damage done that people may not have told you about. if you wanted a bigger hard drive you could always think about getting an external hard drive to back up too, I think they're coming down in price. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 25-Apr-09, at 5:36 PM, Andrea and Zeta! wrote: > > Hi thanks for that Jessy, I don't want a braille display at the > moment. So, > voice over will work just as well on it's own then. > One of the staff read it in the mac shop so that's why I thought of > asking. > I'm unsure what to do now, whether to get a brand new one or go for > the > second hand one. With the new one, I'd get student discount and it's > not > much cheaper than the one that is being sold that's second hand. The > main > difference the one in the shop is a 120 hard drive and the one I'm > being > sold is a 160 hard drive. This is the mac book. I don't know how the > bigger > mac laptop is. > > take care love > > Andrea and Zeta! > xxx > Vale touched the hearts of everyone she met. She will live on forever! > Check out her fundraising page! > Please visit: > www.justgiving.com/valiestar > > www.paws4guidedogs.co.uk > > Is a site run by guide dog owners in Northern Ireland. Take a look > at the > site and find out what we're up too! > - Original Message - > From: "Jessi Rathwell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 1:08 AM > Subject: Re: introduction > > >> >> Andrea, >> you don't need to buy anything separate, well unless you want a >> braille display and then you'd have to buy one of those. but as far >> as >> using a mac with leopard, all you need is the computer. voiceover, >> like it did in tiger, comes built into leopard. >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 22-Apr-09, at 2:20 PM, Andrea and Zeta! wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi there, thanks for the intro. I went to an apple shop today and I >>> saw the >>> leopard software in action. It's good, but I was told that I need to >>> buy two >>> other things for blind and partially sighted users. I don't know how >>> true >>> this is, as the newest mac in the shop apparently needs these two >>> applications. I can't remember what they are, but maybe someone >>> would have a >>> better idea? >>> take care love >>> >>> Andrea and Zeta! >>> xxx >>> Vale touched the hearts of everyone she met. She will live on >>> forever! >>> Check out her fundraising page! >>> Please visit: >>> www.justgiving.com/valiestar >>> >>> www.paws4guidedogs.co.uk >>> >>> Is a site run by guide dog owners in Northern Ireland. Take a look >>> at the >>> site and find out what we're up too! >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Ben King" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:24 AM >>> Subject: Re: introduction >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Dear Andrea, >>>> >>>> You will love your Apple. >>>> I have been very pleased with mine. and there are wonderful >>>> podcasts >>>> to listen to. The Screenlessswitchers is a great podcast as well >>>> as >>>> Lioncourt.com. I hope this helps. >>>> Blessings, >>>> Ben King >>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Andrea, Zeta Vale and Trudy bell! >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi there Mark, wow thanks for that. I'm not sure whether to have a >>>>> windows >>>>> program running on the mac or not and if so what? >>>>> I have 2 gig of ram on it and a 160 hard drive. I don't know >>>>> therefore, if >>>>> running vista would work that well. I really can't wait to get it. >>>>> I did hear alex on the voice over speech today and it's quite >>>>> clear. >>>>> Easier >>>>> than jaws to listen too and clearer in some ways, more human-like >>>>> maybe the >>>>> better way to describe it. >>>&
