agreed, Chris. well said. On 25-Mar-09, at 10:32 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > I'm certainly guilty of being off topic and worthy of the ban. At the > same time I'd like to think some lenience for off topic posts which > have > broad appeal to this list's readership has some positive benefit to > the > community. For myself this is one of the few public mailing list I > subscribe to. So I both appreciate and try to support some level of > contributions that are not necessarily Mac/VO related. That said, I am > not really as interested in reading about new Windows or Jaws features > via this list. My expectation is that the content will be at around > 90% > Mac/VO and the rest general accessibility related. Strict > enforcement of > Mac/VO topics control may be impossible on one hand and possibly > detrimental on the other. > > CB > > Cara Quinn wrote: >> Hi Greg, well you answered your own question. :-) Anything Mac- >> related is certainly on topic. >> >> I'm sure sorry you feel like this is 'wrath' but I've gotten *many* >> requests / complaints from list members whom pay for bandwidth, or >> have limited time in which to read list mail, but whom would really >> like to stay on the list for it's informational value. However, a >> lot >> of the more 'chatty' messages really get in the way for them. >> >> So far these people constitute the majority of whom I'm hearing >> from, so I need to take that as the general list consensus. >> >> This is, afterall, your list. If you all said Cara, I want a chat >> list, then that's what this would be, and I'd never even consider >> posting the kind of thing I did earlier. -But that's not what you're >> saying to me. the list is saying that there is too much traffic that >> isn't relevant, so that's what I'm trying to address as list >> moderator. Does this make sense?… >> >> So, since this is currently the case, when someone deliberately >> posts something that they, themselves have even labeled as 'Off >> Topic,' considering that I've posted very nice / polite requests >> numerous times, I then feel that a post like my earlier one is >> warranted. I most certainly don't want to ban anyone nor do I want >> this list to become a tyrannical place which no one enjoys. :-) >> what's the fun in that? >> >> However, if I keep asking nicely yet people keep feeling that it >> doesn't apply to them and go on posting notes they're kindly asked >> not >> to, then I'm not left with much choice in the matter, yes?… >> >> In order for this list to work well together, we need to have at >> least some respect for eachother and awareness that not everyone has >> the same access to plentiful internet time, nor do we all have the >> same sorts of leisurely schedules in which to lazily read vast >> amounts >> of email. So since we're all different, we just need to find a good >> consensus we can come to, that's all… >> >> Now, you do raise a really good point in the sense of asking >> exactly what and what is not on-topic, since I'm planning to edit the >> Welcome message if needed, so I'll try to be as clear as I can. I >> certainly don't want there to be any ambiguity and I certainly don't >> want anyone to feel they need to worry about what they're posting. >> >> Anyway, I hope this helps answer the question, and I wish you / >> yours a lovely evening!… >> >> Smiles, >> >> Cara :) >> --- >> View my Online Portfolio at: >> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >> >> On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Greg Kearney wrote: >> >> >> Just what qualifies as "off topic" and can there by bring down the >> wrath of the moderators here. If I had, for example included a post >> saying that I had worked out a bill scanner under OS X would that be >> permitted? I think we could stand to grant some slack here so long as >> it is somewhat related to VO and the Mac and or similar technologies. >> >> >> Greg Kearney >> 535 S. Jackson St. >> Casper, Wyoming 82601 >> 307-224-4022 >> gkear...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > >
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