Article recapping Braille improvements on IOS 18

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

Does anyone know of a good article—as in the written word—about the new braille 
improvements in IOS 18.  I googled it, but all I got were podcasts.  No offense 
to anyone, but I hate podcasts.  They take way too long, and there’s way too 
much chatter.  I just don’t have time for all that.  I would much rather just 
read something.
TIA,
Donna

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What’s New in iOS 18 Accessibility for Blind and DeafBlind Users – Helen Keller Services

[Hai Nguyen Ly]

> 
> https://www.helenkeller.org/whats-new-in-ios-18-accessibility-for-blind-and-deafblind-users/
> 
> What’s New in iOS 18 Accessibility for Blind and DeafBlind Users
> By Scott Davert, Coordinator: Technology, Research and Innovation Center 
> ,
>  Helen Keller National Center for DeafBlind Youths and Adults
> 
> September 13, 2024
> 
> Introduction
> 
> Fall is almost here in the northern hemisphere, which means it’s time for 
> another major release of iOS. Apple has announced that iOS 18 will be 
> available to the public on Monday, September 16, bringing a host of new 
> features and improvements. There are certainly mainstream changes of note, 
> such as a new Passwords app, an expanded Control Center, changes to the 
> Messages app such as the addition of support for RCS messaging 
>  and many more. This 
> article from IdownloadBlog discusses their top 75 features coming in iOS 18. 
> 
> Apple Intelligence was also introduced during the World Wide Developer’s 
> Conference in June. ) This set of 
> features will only be available with the iPhone 15 pro and Pro Max models 
> along with the 16 line-up which will debut in the fall. However, the Apple 
> Intelligence features will not be available with the launch of iOS 18.0, beta 
> testing of this feature set began with iOS 18.1. 
> 
>  If your iPhone supports iOS 17, according to this MacRumors article, 
> 
>  it will also support iOS 18. This article also lists the compatible devices.
> 
> While the mainstream changes will be covered in great detail by many, there 
> are also many changes and enhancements to accessibility features that impact 
> those with vision and hearing loss as well. Apple announced some of these 
> features 
> 
>  on Global Accessibility Awareness Day.
> 
> As has become standard practice, I’ve done my best to outline the new 
> accessibility features for blind and DeafBlind users of the updated version 
> of iOS. While I have worked extensively with iOS 18 since the first beta 
> release in June, there will inevitably be things that I have missed. Here is 
> what I have learned, and I look forward to learning what others find as they 
> work with this release.
> 
> VoiceOver
> 
> What’s new?
> 
> After upgrading your device to iOS 18, if you have notifications enabled for 
> Accessibility Settings, you will be presented with a notification that you 
> can check out what is new with VoiceOver and braille. Activating this 
> notification will take you to a summary of the various changes. However, the 
> details are few in this list as to how each of these features function. 
> Because of this, my readers get to deal with me for at least one more year. 
> Find this section by activating the “What’s New Link” in 
> Settings>Accessibility>VoiceOver>What’s New In VoiceOver….
> 
> What’s this thing do?
> 
> iOS 18 comes with an interactive tutorial for touchscreen users of the screen 
> reader. The very basics are covered in the first lesson with other concepts 
> added as you go along. There are tutorials available for navigation, 
> scrolling, the VoiceOver Rotor, text entry and many more. For new VoiceOver 
> users of the touchscreen, these tutorials are a good place to start to learn 
> how VoiceOver can be used most effectively. You can find the tutorial by 
> going to Settings>Accessibility>VoiceOver>VoiceOver Tutorial. Note that it is 
> an interactive tutorial and that some of the standard gestures normally 
> available will not be during certain parts of the tutorial.
> 
> New speech features bring a new rotor option
> 
> As part of the continued expansion of different TTS options, iOS 18 brings a 
> new rotor item . This is the Voice Rotor, which also replaces the Language 
> Rotor we’ve come to know. The basic difference between the Language Rotor 
> found in iOS 17 and this new option is that you can choose any number of 
> speech options in a given language. Prior to iOS 18, users would have to 
> specify what language they desired the chosen voice to be part of. Now, you 
> can freely add as many voices in as many languages as you wish. For example, 
> I conduct technology assessments as part of my job. Many of the clients I 
> work with have a form of both vision and hearing loss. As such, they 
> sometimes have very unique speech needs. I’m able to have all of the U.S. 
> English voices installed on a demonstration device, which I can now more 
> effectively go through with each use case.
> 
> One of the things I

Re: What’s New in iOS 18 Accessibility for Blind and DeafBlind Users – Helen Keller Services

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Thanks for this.  What a great article!
Donna


> On Sep 16, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.helenkeller.org/whats-new-in-ios-18-accessibility-for-blind-and-deafblind-users/
>> 
>> What’s New in iOS 18 Accessibility for Blind and DeafBlind Users
>> By Scott Davert, Coordinator: Technology, Research and Innovation Center 
>> ,
>>  Helen Keller National Center for DeafBlind Youths and Adults
>> 
>> September 13, 2024
>> 
>> Introduction
>> 
>> Fall is almost here in the northern hemisphere, which means it’s time for 
>> another major release of iOS. Apple has announced that iOS 18 will be 
>> available to the public on Monday, September 16, bringing a host of new 
>> features and improvements. There are certainly mainstream changes of note, 
>> such as a new Passwords app, an expanded Control Center, changes to the 
>> Messages app such as the addition of support for RCS messaging 
>>  and many more. This 
>> article from IdownloadBlog discusses their top 75 features coming in iOS 18. 
>> 
>> Apple Intelligence was also introduced during the World Wide Developer’s 
>> Conference in June. ) This set of 
>> features will only be available with the iPhone 15 pro and Pro Max models 
>> along with the 16 line-up which will debut in the fall. However, the Apple 
>> Intelligence features will not be available with the launch of iOS 18.0, 
>> beta testing of this feature set began with iOS 18.1. 
>> 
>>  If your iPhone supports iOS 17, according to this MacRumors article, 
>> 
>>  it will also support iOS 18. This article also lists the compatible devices.
>> 
>> While the mainstream changes will be covered in great detail by many, there 
>> are also many changes and enhancements to accessibility features that impact 
>> those with vision and hearing loss as well. Apple announced some of these 
>> features 
>> 
>>  on Global Accessibility Awareness Day.
>> 
>> As has become standard practice, I’ve done my best to outline the new 
>> accessibility features for blind and DeafBlind users of the updated version 
>> of iOS. While I have worked extensively with iOS 18 since the first beta 
>> release in June, there will inevitably be things that I have missed. Here is 
>> what I have learned, and I look forward to learning what others find as they 
>> work with this release.
>> 
>> VoiceOver
>> 
>> What’s new?
>> 
>> After upgrading your device to iOS 18, if you have notifications enabled for 
>> Accessibility Settings, you will be presented with a notification that you 
>> can check out what is new with VoiceOver and braille. Activating this 
>> notification will take you to a summary of the various changes. However, the 
>> details are few in this list as to how each of these features function. 
>> Because of this, my readers get to deal with me for at least one more year. 
>> Find this section by activating the “What’s New Link” in 
>> Settings>Accessibility>VoiceOver>What’s New In VoiceOver….
>> 
>> What’s this thing do?
>> 
>> iOS 18 comes with an interactive tutorial for touchscreen users of the 
>> screen reader. The very basics are covered in the first lesson with other 
>> concepts added as you go along. There are tutorials available for 
>> navigation, scrolling, the VoiceOver Rotor, text entry and many more. For 
>> new VoiceOver users of the touchscreen, these tutorials are a good place to 
>> start to learn how VoiceOver can be used most effectively. You can find the 
>> tutorial by going to Settings>Accessibility>VoiceOver>VoiceOver Tutorial. 
>> Note that it is an interactive tutorial and that some of the standard 
>> gestures normally available will not be during certain parts of the tutorial.
>> 
>> New speech features bring a new rotor option
>> 
>> As part of the continued expansion of different TTS options, iOS 18 brings a 
>> new rotor item . This is the Voice Rotor, which also replaces the Language 
>> Rotor we’ve come to know. The basic difference between the Language Rotor 
>> found in iOS 17 and this new option is that you can choose any number of 
>> speech options in a given language. Prior to iOS 18, users would have to 
>> specify what language they desired the chosen voice to be part of. Now, you 
>> can freely add as many voices in as many languages as you wish. For example, 
>> I conduct technology assessments as part of my job. Many of the clients I 
>> work with have a form of both vision and hearing loss. As such, they 
>> sometimes have very uniqu

Amazon

[Lorie McCloud]

I’m following a link in the book Bub email to purchase a Kindle book. on my 
Mac. when I get there I can’t get to the “buy now with one click” button even 
using the keyboard command for form controls. I tried clicking on the title too 
but I just get snagged in sponsored ads and reviews. so I tried it on my phone 
and was able to do it. is there any way I can tweak Safari on my Mac to make it 
easier?

thanks.
Lorie

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Important heads-up re updating to IOS 18

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I just wanted to make everyone aware of a problem I encountered when I updated 
to IOS 18.  The update appeared to go off without a hitch, until I had to enter 
my Pass code.  Voiceover did not speak any of the numbers in the number pad.  I 
tried turning VO on and off, and restarting my phone, and nothing helped.  My 
Brailliant said it was paired, but I could not use it to enter my pass code.  I 
recommend that if possible, you have a sighted person available when you 
update, in case you run into this same problem.  So much for improved 
accessibility. *sigh*
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Article recapping Braille improvements on IOS 18

[Marci Duty]

Such strong feelings about podcasts. Some of the best podcasts describing
these features have transcripts. Read these transcripts and wow, you get
the information you need.

https://www.livingblindfully.com/lb0300transcript/

Smiles from Texas,


On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 7:09 AM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know of a good article—as in the written word—about the new
> braille improvements in IOS 18.  I googled it, but all I got were
> podcasts.  No offense to anyone, but I hate podcasts.  They take way too
> long, and there’s way too much chatter.  I just don’t have time for all
> that.  I would much rather just read something.
> TIA,
> Donna
>
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Re: Amazon

[Brad Snyder]

I hate Amazon on my Mac.
I always use the Amazon app on my iPhone.

- Brad -

On Sep 16, 2024, at 15:48, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I’m following a link in the book Bub email to purchase a Kindle book. on my 
Mac. when I get there I can’t get to the “buy now with one click” button even 
using the keyboard command for form controls. I tried clicking on the title too 
but I just get snagged in sponsored ads and reviews. so I tried it on my phone 
and was able to do it. is there any way I can tweak Safari on my Mac to make it 
easier?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Amazon

[Lorie McCloud]

ok. I. guess that’s just the way it goes then. Ihate it on my Mac too! do you 
shop Amazon Fresh on your phone? that’s not too hard on the Mac but if it was 
easier on the phone, that would be great!

> On Sep 16, 2024, at 5:20 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I hate Amazon on my Mac.
> I always use the Amazon app on my iPhone.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Sep 16, 2024, at 15:48, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I’m following a link in the book Bub email to purchase a Kindle book. on my 
> Mac. when I get there I can’t get to the “buy now with one click” button even 
> using the keyboard command for form controls. I tried clicking on the title 
> too but I just get snagged in sponsored ads and reviews. so I tried it on my 
> phone and was able to do it. is there any way I can tweak Safari on my Mac to 
> make it easier?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Important heads-up re updating to IOS 18

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Donna, I ran into the same problem when helping my girlfriend restore from a 
back up. The verification code area was not accessible either. I haven't made 
it a chance to write to Apple accessibility but maybe it's something actual 
point out to them. And this happened on an iPhone 15+.

> On Sep 16, 2024, at 3:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just wanted to make everyone aware of a problem I encountered when I 
> updated to IOS 18.  The update appeared to go off without a hitch, until I 
> had to enter my Pass code.  Voiceover did not speak any of the numbers in the 
> number pad.  I tried turning VO on and off, and restarting my phone, and 
> nothing helped.  My Brailliant said it was paired, but I could not use it to 
> enter my pass code.  I recommend that if possible, you have a sighted person 
> available when you update, in case you run into this same problem.  So much 
> for improved accessibility. *sigh*
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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Re: Important heads-up re updating to IOS 18

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Joseph,

I did send it off to  Apple accessibility this afternoon. I figure all the 
accessibility improvements in the world aren’t worth much if you end up blocked 
out of your phone. Anyway, as we all know the more people report these bugs the 
more likely they are to be fixed. So if you can, find a little time to send it 
off to Apple accessibility.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2024, at 7:42 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna, I ran into the same problem when helping my girlfriend restore 
> from a back up. The verification code area was not accessible either. I 
> haven't made it a chance to write to Apple accessibility but maybe it's 
> something actual point out to them. And this happened on an iPhone 15+.
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2024, at 3:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just wanted to make everyone aware of a problem I encountered when I 
>> updated to IOS 18.  The update appeared to go off without a hitch, until I 
>> had to enter my Pass code.  Voiceover did not speak any of the numbers in 
>> the number pad.  I tried turning VO on and off, and restarting my phone, and 
>> nothing helped.  My Brailliant said it was paired, but I could not use it to 
>> enter my pass code.  I recommend that if possible, you have a sighted person 
>> available when you update, in case you run into this same problem.  So much 
>> for improved accessibility. *sigh*
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Important heads-up re updating to IOS 18

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

Just by way of follow up, after I’ve gotten my phone booted up, and all was 
well, I restarted it, to see if the problem persisted every time I had to enter 
my password. It does not. The only problem is the initial unlocking of your 
phone after the update.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2024, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi Joseph,
> 
> I did send it off to  Apple accessibility this afternoon. I figure all the 
> accessibility improvements in the world aren’t worth much if you end up 
> blocked out of your phone. Anyway, as we all know the more people report 
> these bugs the more likely they are to be fixed. So if you can, find a little 
> time to send it off to Apple accessibility.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2024, at 7:42 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna, I ran into the same problem when helping my girlfriend restore 
>> from a back up. The verification code area was not accessible either. I 
>> haven't made it a chance to write to Apple accessibility but maybe it's 
>> something actual point out to them. And this happened on an iPhone 15+.
>> 
 On Sep 16, 2024, at 3:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just wanted to make everyone aware of a problem I encountered when I 
>>> updated to IOS 18.  The update appeared to go off without a hitch, until I 
>>> had to enter my Pass code.  Voiceover did not speak any of the numbers in 
>>> the number pad.  I tried turning VO on and off, and restarting my phone, 
>>> and nothing helped.  My Brailliant said it was paired, but I could not use 
>>> it to enter my pass code.  I recommend that if possible, you have a sighted 
>>> person available when you update, in case you run into this same problem.  
>>> So much for improved accessibility. *sigh*
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: Amazon

[Brad Snyder]

Everything I do with Amazon, I do on the iOS app.
To me, it is much more efficient than using the the web browser on PC or Mac.

- Brad -

On Sep 16, 2024, at 19:13, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

ok. I. guess that’s just the way it goes then. Ihate it on my Mac too! do you 
shop Amazon Fresh on your phone? that’s not too hard on the Mac but if it was 
easier on the phone, that would be great!

> On Sep 16, 2024, at 5:20 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> I hate Amazon on my Mac.
> I always use the Amazon app on my iPhone.
> 
> - Brad -
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> On Sep 16, 2024, at 15:48, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I’m following a link in the book Bub email to purchase a Kindle book. on my 
> Mac. when I get there I can’t get to the “buy now with one click” button even 
> using the keyboard command for form controls. I tried clicking on the title 
> too but I just get snagged in sponsored ads and reviews. so I tried it on my 
> phone and was able to do it. is there any way I can tweak Safari on my Mac to 
> make it easier?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Important heads-up re updating to IOS 18

[Brad Snyder]

Just finished doing the update on two different iPhones with no issue.

- Brad -

On Sep 16, 2024, at 19:42, Joseph Hudson  wrote:

Hi Donna, I ran into the same problem when helping my girlfriend restore from 
a back up. The verification code area was not accessible either. I haven't made 
it a chance to write to Apple accessibility but maybe it's something actual 
point out to them. And this happened on an iPhone 15+.

> On Sep 16, 2024, at 3:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I just wanted to make everyone aware of a problem I encountered when I 
> updated to IOS 18.  The update appeared to go off without a hitch, until I 
> had to enter my Pass code.  Voiceover did not speak any of the numbers in the 
> number pad.  I tried turning VO on and off, and restarting my phone, and 
> nothing helped.  My Brailliant said it was paired, but I could not use it to 
> enter my pass code.  I recommend that if possible, you have a sighted person 
> available when you update, in case you run into this same problem.  So much 
> for improved accessibility. *sigh*
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Amazon

[Ian Robinson]

Hi Lorie,

After following a link to buy an Amazon Book, I find the only way to get to the 
Buy button is to press the Tab key a few times. Once focus is on the button, VO 
and Left Cursor allows me to confirm the price.

Ian

Sent from my iPhone because my MacBook is very poorly!

> On 16 Sep 2024, at 21:48, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I’m following a link in the book Bub email to purchase a Kindle book. on my 
> Mac. when I get there I can’t get to the “buy now with one click” button even 
> using the keyboard command for form controls. I tried clicking on the title 
> too but I just get snagged in sponsored ads and reviews. so I tried it on my 
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> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Amazon

[Karen Lewellen]

Interestingly enough, at least in Linux tools, it is now almost impossible 
to refuse  joining prime.  as in the button alt tagged continue without 
the prime benefits shows as a display link in the status bar.
Frankly  stunning, most other aspects seem possible, other than this force 
feeding of prime.

For the record, it shows in Ubuntu.
Karen



On Mon, 16 Sep 2024, Lorie McCloud wrote:


ok. I. guess that’s just the way it goes then. Ihate it on my Mac too! do you 
shop Amazon Fresh on your phone? that’s not too hard on the Mac but if it was 
easier on the phone, that would be great!


On Sep 16, 2024, at 5:20 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

I hate Amazon on my Mac.
I always use the Amazon app on my iPhone.

- Brad -

On Sep 16, 2024, at 15:48, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I’m following a link in the book Bub email to purchase a Kindle book. on my 
Mac. when I get there I can’t get to the “buy now with one click” button even 
using the keyboard command for form controls. I tried clicking on the title too 
but I just get snagged in sponsored ads and reviews. so I tried it on my phone 
and was able to do it. is there any way I can tweak Safari on my Mac to make it 
easier?

thanks.
Lorie

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