Re: Mailbox Table Disappears?

[Gerry Cook]

command shift H will show the mailbox list 

> On 23 Dec 2022, at 12:15 pm, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Hi, Group.
> I have three email accounts configured in Mail.
> My messages and mailboxes are in two separate tables.
> Now the mail box table disappears. In place of table, Voiceover says:
> ‘All Inboxes x thousand messages. How can I have mailbox table back, please?
> I am using the most updated Ventura.
> Thanks!
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Re: Mailbox Table Disappears?

[Gerry Cook]

oh sorry i meant to say cmd shift M instead of H 

> On 23 Dec 2022, at 12:15 pm, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Group.
> I have three email accounts configured in Mail.
> My messages and mailboxes are in two separate tables.
> Now the mail box table disappears. In place of table, Voiceover says:
> ‘All Inboxes x thousand messages. How can I have mailbox table back, please?
> I am using the most updated Ventura.
> Thanks!
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Re: Not Responding Message

[Lorie McCloud]

I also had a serious problem with mail on my Mac mini doing this. It drove me 
nuts! The solution I came to was to roll back a couple of os versions.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 23, 2022, at 12:38 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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On 23/12/22 16:27, Bill Gallik wrote:
> I’m having a significant problem with some apps giving me a “… Not 
> Responding” message.  In particular, the native mail app on my Mac Mini is 
> driving me nuts with this.  If this were only happening with network 
> accessing apps I might be inclined to reset my wireless modem, but strictly 
> local apps (i.e., Checkbook Pro among others) manifest this most annoying 
> behavior as well.  And, I never get such results from my iOS devices.

Try visiting applevis.com, where you'll find thread upon thread of complaints 
about "not responding" (previously "busy") problems with VoiceOver for Mac, 
year after year, and with no resolution.

The best you can do is probably lodge a support case with Apple.

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Re: Not Responding Message

[Herbie Allen]

It’s still worth checking the network as I think apps send some sort of 
authentication information through the cloud when you open them. The age of 
your Mac is also going to be a factor, but I would also try  programs like Onyx 
and Malware Bytes. These are free options you can try.

> On Dec 22, 2022, at 23:27, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> I’m having a significant problem with some apps giving me a “… Not 
> Responding” message.  In particular, the native mail app on my Mac Mini is 
> driving me nuts with this.  If this were only happening with network 
> accessing apps I might be inclined to reset my wireless modem, but strictly 
> local apps (i.e., Checkbook Pro among others) manifest this most annoying 
> behavior as well.  And, I never get such results from my iOS devices.
> 
> I also have maintenance scheduled during the middle of the night every 
> Saturday/Sunday.  I don’t think this “bottleneck” or whatever else you might 
> call it is supposed to operate this way.
> 
> Can anybody offer any suggestions?
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - “A smile is a curve”
> - “that sets everything straight.”
> - Phyllis Diller
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Unresponsive Finder, M1 Mac mini, Ventura 13.1

['Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries]

This problem with the unresponsive finder has been getting worse for a while 
now, but it is making it more difficult for me to use the machine now.  I had 
to wait several minutes this time after I rebooted the Mac.  Then it just was 
very slow instead of completely unresponsive.  I know that something is wrong 
but I can’t figure out what it is.  

Do I need to just bite the bullet and call AppleCare?  Thanks for any pointers.


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Re: Unresponsive Finder, M1 Mac mini, Ventura 13.1

[John Panarese]

   I am experiencing this at times as well. I am not sure why but if I 
command-tab away and restart VoiceOver and go back to Finder, it seems to fix 
the problem.


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> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:28 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> This problem with the unresponsive finder has been getting worse for a while 
> now, but it is making it more difficult for me to use the machine now.  I had 
> to wait several minutes this time after I rebooted the Mac.  Then it just was 
> very slow instead of completely unresponsive.  I know that something is wrong 
> but I can’t figure out what it is.  
> 
> Do I need to just bite the bullet and call AppleCare?  Thanks for any 
> pointers.
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Re: Unresponsive Finder, M1 Mac mini, Ventura 13.1

['Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, John.  Sometimes and works better than it does at other times.  But I 
finally got it to work at an acceptable level.  

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:44 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
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>I am experiencing this at times as well. I am not sure why but if I 
> command-tab away and restart VoiceOver and go back to Finder, it seems to fix 
> the problem.
> 
> 
> Take Care
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>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:28 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This problem with the unresponsive finder has been getting worse for a while 
>> now, but it is making it more difficult for me to use the machine now.  I 
>> had to wait several minutes this time after I rebooted the Mac.  Then it 
>> just was very slow instead of completely unresponsive.  I know that 
>> something is wrong but I can’t figure out what it is.  
>> 
>> Do I need to just bite the bullet and call AppleCare?  Thanks for any 
>> pointers.
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Re: Unresponsive Finder, M1 Mac mini, Ventura 13.1

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,


I have a mac book air m1 with no problems  with finder infact, I find it 
to be faster than my intel mac mini from 2018.



Matthew



On 12/23/2022 3:13 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Thanks, John.  Sometimes and works better than it does at other times. 
 But I finally got it to work at an acceptable level.



On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:44 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

   I am experiencing this at times as well. I am not sure why but if 
I command-tab away and restart VoiceOver and go back to Finder, it 
seems to fix the problem.



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On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:28 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


This problem with the unresponsive finder has been getting worse for 
a while now, but it is making it more difficult for me to use the 
machine now.  I had to wait several minutes this time after I 
rebooted the Mac.  Then it just was very slow instead of completely 
unresponsive.  I know that something is wrong but I can’t figure out 
what it is.


Do I need to just bite the bullet and call AppleCare?  Thanks for 
any pointers.



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Re: Unresponsive Finder, M1 Mac mini, Ventura 13.1

[John Panarese]

   My M1 Mac Book pro has no problems, but my Intel Mini does.


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> On Dec 23, 2022, at 3:44 PM, Matthew Dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a mac book air m1 with no problems  with finder infact, I find it to 
> be faster than my intel mac mini from 2018.
> 
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/23/2022 3:13 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Thanks, John.  Sometimes and works better than it does at other times.  But 
>> I finally got it to work at an acceptable level.  
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:44 PM, John Panarese  
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>I am experiencing this at times as well. I am not sure why but if I 
>>> command-tab away and restart VoiceOver and go back to Finder, it seems to 
>>> fix the problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
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>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:28 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
   
 wrote:
 
 This problem with the unresponsive finder has been getting worse for a 
 while now, but it is making it more difficult for me to use the machine 
 now.  I had to wait several minutes this time after I rebooted the Mac.  
 Then it just was very slow instead of completely unresponsive.  I know 
 that something is wrong but I can’t figure out what it is.  
 
 Do I need to just bite the bullet and call AppleCare?  Thanks for any 
 pointers.
 
 
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Erasing drive formatted for Windows

['Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries]

Hi again.  What format do I need for erasing a hard disc to use on the Mac?  It 
is currently formatted for Windows, which means I can’t write to it.  I plan to 
use it to store things like books, movies, music and the like.  APFS case 
sensitive, encrypted, etc?  I was about to erase it when I realized I was not 
quite sure what format to choose.  I do not need to keep the two or three PDF 
files that came with it, and that is all that is on the disc.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: Erasing drive formatted for Windows

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,


If you just want to use it for storing stuff you copy over, then xfat 
should work just fine.  If you want to use it as a backup then apfs is 
what you want.



HTH.


Matthew



On 12/23/2022 4:04 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi again.  What format do I need for erasing a hard disc to use on the Mac?  It 
is currently formatted for Windows, which means I can’t write to it.  I plan to 
use it to store things like books, movies, music and the like.  APFS case 
sensitive, encrypted, etc?  I was about to erase it when I realized I was not 
quite sure what format to choose.  I do not need to keep the two or three PDF 
files that came with it, and that is all that is on the disc.

Thanks for any help.




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Re: Erasing drive formatted for Windows

['Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries]

So maybe I don’t have to erase it at all?  I’m not using it for Time Machine or 
any kind of disk cloning app or anything like that.  I will try to copy things 
there again and see if I can do it.

Thanks for the info.



> On Dec 23, 2022, at 3:23 PM, Matthew Dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> If you just want to use it for storing stuff you copy over, then xfat should 
> work just fine.  If you want to use it as a backup then apfs is what you want.
> 
> 
> HTH.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/23/2022 4:04 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi again.  What format do I need for erasing a hard disc to use on the Mac?  
>> It is currently formatted for Windows, which means I can’t write to it.  I 
>> plan to use it to store things like books, movies, music and the like.  APFS 
>> case sensitive, encrypted, etc?  I was about to erase it when I realized I 
>> was not quite sure what format to choose.  I do not need to keep the two or 
>> three PDF files that came with it, and that is all that is on the disc.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Erasing drive formatted for Windows

[Maurice A. mines]

Hi  if  this  drive is  for  windows on  a  pc, Ntfs is  the  only option. Also 
 that  drive  if  it  is  butting  windows, the  drive  layout  must  be  “MBR” 
if  it  is  just  a  storage drive, “guid” is  fine. I hope that this  helps.

Maurice  Mines.

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 21:23, Matthew Dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> If you just want to use it for storing stuff you copy over, then xfat should 
> work just fine.  If you want to use it as a backup then apfs is what you want.
> 
> 
> HTH.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/23/2022 4:04 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi again.  What format do I need for erasing a hard disc to use on the Mac?  
>> It is currently formatted for Windows, which means I can’t write to it.  I 
>> plan to use it to store things like books, movies, music and the like.  APFS 
>> case sensitive, encrypted, etc?  I was about to erase it when I realized I 
>> was not quite sure what format to choose.  I do not need to keep the two or 
>> three PDF files that came with it, and that is all that is on the disc.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Erasing drive formatted for Windows

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On 24/12/22 08:04, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi again.  What format do I need for erasing a hard disc to use on the Mac?  It 
is currently formatted for Windows, which means I can’t write to it.

For a modern Mac, the recommended format is Apple File System (APFS).

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Re: Erasing drive formatted for Windows

[Bradford Snyder]

If this is an external disk, I recommend using XFAT.  This format will allow 
you to use the drive on either Mac or Windows as necessary.

- Brad -



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 wrote:

Hi again.  What format do I need for erasing a hard disc to use on the Mac?  It 
is currently formatted for Windows, which means I can’t write to it.  I plan to 
use it to store things like books, movies, music and the like.  APFS case 
sensitive, encrypted, etc?  I was about to erase it when I realized I was not 
quite sure what format to choose.  I do not need to keep the two or three PDF 
files that came with it, and that is all that is on the disc.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: Erasing drive formatted for Windows

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Thanks. I chose Xfat. I think it will be fine. If not, I know what to do next time.  Thanks for helping me feel less intimidated as a non power user.  Mary WardOn Dec 23, 2022, at 9:16 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:If this is an external disk, I recommend using XFAT.  This format will allow you to use the drive on either Mac or Windows as necessary.- Brad -


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