Re: Annoying issue with iPad lock screen

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Tim,  you’re brilliant.  I just changed it, so still have to test, but I’m 
pretty sure I found it.  Just for your and anyone else’s information, there’s a 
setting under brightness and display to automatically wake up iPad when you 
lift the iPad cover.  That was set to on, so, since I don’t have a cover, I 
think it was interpreting any change in contact with the screen as the cover 
being lifted.  I have changed that to off, and expect that will solve the 
problem.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  I had checked in accessibility, 
but of course, had not found a solution there.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 10:53 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> Check in Settings, Display & Brightness to see if there’s anything there 
> about screen tapping or proximity.  Otherwise, I’m not sure as I don’t have 
> one of those super new iPads to test on.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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>> On Dec 10, 2021, at 09:47, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have one of the new iPad minis.  They unlock by pressing on the touch pad 
>> at the top.  However, mine seems to wake up any time I come within 3 feet of 
>> it, even when my hand is nowhere near the touch pad.  And if I try to lock 
>> it by putting my finger on the touch pad, it just wakes right back up again. 
>>  Does anyone know if there’s a way to stop this?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: text messages on an iPhone

[Jonathan Cohn]

Good place to use the item chooser. In the list of threads  quadruple tap with 
three fingers. This should bring up the item chooser and then type "unread" in 
the search field.
If you have a bluetooth keyboard that is paired with the phone, then use 
control-option-I to start the item chooser.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 10, 2021, at 16:56, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> My iPhone tells me I have 5 unread text messages but I can't find them. I've 
> read everything on there and it still says I have 5 unread messages. I've 
> always been able to find them in the past. I don't know if I'm really missing 
> anything or not. 
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Alternate Browsers on Mac

[Dave Carlson]

Having trouble with MS-Edge lately. Not too thrilled with Safari and how chatty 
it is when filling in logon and passwords. What other browsers are you using 
with any success?

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Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

[Eric Oyen]

Google chrome seems to work ok, although it doesn’t poll the keychain access 
file for passwords (it tries to store them internally). On sites where some of 
the elements aren’t workable in safari, chrome might work (although this is hit 
or miss a lot of the time).

Oh, and forget about Firefox as it is barely accessible and tends not to render 
some sites in a way the screen reader understands).

-Eric


> On Dec 11, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Having trouble with MS-Edge lately. Not too thrilled with Safari and how 
> chatty it is when filling in logon and passwords. What other browsers are you 
> using with any success?
> 
> Dave Carlson
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Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On 11/12/21 15:29, Eric Oyen wrote:

Oh, and forget about Firefox as it is barely accessible and tends not to render 
some sites in a way the screen reader understands).
Recent versions of Firefox are very accessible with VoiceOver. Mozilla 
recently rewrote their Mac OS accessibility API support completely.


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Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

[Dave Carlson]

Eric,
Thanks for the suggestions. My problem with MS-Edge is that I can’t navigate 
tables at all. When one shows up all I hear is the Table with x rows and y 
columns. 

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar

On Dec 11, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

Google chrome seems to work ok, although it doesn’t poll the keychain access 
file for passwords (it tries to store them internally). On sites where some of 
the elements aren’t workable in safari, chrome might work (although this is hit 
or miss a lot of the time).

Oh, and forget about Firefox as it is barely accessible and tends not to render 
some sites in a way the screen reader understands).

-Eric


> On Dec 11, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Having trouble with MS-Edge lately. Not too thrilled with Safari and how 
> chatty it is when filling in logon and passwords. What other browsers are you 
> using with any success?
> 
> Dave Carlson
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Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

[Dave Carlson]

E.T.
Interesting. I tried to find Firefox on the Mac App Store and it was not there. 
Should I have just gone to the internet and downloaded it from there?

Dave Carlson
Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer

On Dec 11, 2021, at 2:48 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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On 11/12/21 15:29, Eric Oyen wrote:
> Oh, and forget about Firefox as it is barely accessible and tends not to 
> render some sites in a way the screen reader understands).
Recent versions of Firefox are very accessible with VoiceOver. Mozilla recently 
rewrote their Mac OS accessibility API support completely.

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Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

[Dave Carlson]

Okay, just installed Firefox on my Mac. Only major problem I have so far is 
that I cannot do a Option-Control-F find using Firefox. I think I remember this 
way back in the Windows/JAWS days. Is there a way to adjust Firefox so that I 
can use the VO find function?
Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker

On Dec 11, 2021, at 2:48 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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On 11/12/21 15:29, Eric Oyen wrote:
> Oh, and forget about Firefox as it is barely accessible and tends not to 
> render some sites in a way the screen reader understands).
Recent versions of Firefox are very accessible with VoiceOver. Mozilla recently 
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Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

[Eric Oyen]

Hmmm, that’s news to me. The last time I tried Firefox on OS X Catalina it 
turned out be very frustrating. Are there any settings I should be aware of to 
make it easier to use?

Thanks,

-Eric


> On Dec 11, 2021, at 3:48 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/12/21 15:29, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> Oh, and forget about Firefox as it is barely accessible and tends not to 
>> render some sites in a way the screen reader understands).
> Recent versions of Firefox are very accessible with VoiceOver. Mozilla 
> recently rewrote their Mac OS accessibility API support completely.
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Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

[Eric Oyen]

yeah. I get that on some sites as well using safari. Part of it is probably 
improper web code or use of non-standard html tags. Btw, have you tried edge on 
the gmail website set in basic html mode? If the problem shows up there, then 
it’s likely edge that’s the problem. Then again, Microsoft was never very good 
at producing accessible products that worked on platforms other than their 
flagship OS.

-Eric


> On Dec 11, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> Thanks for the suggestions. My problem with MS-Edge is that I can’t navigate 
> tables at all. When one shows up all I hear is the Table with x rows and y 
> columns. 
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar
> 
> On Dec 11, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Eric Oyen  > wrote:
> 
> Google chrome seems to work ok, although it doesn’t poll the keychain access 
> file for passwords (it tries to store them internally). On sites where some 
> of the elements aren’t workable in safari, chrome might work (although this 
> is hit or miss a lot of the time).
> 
> Oh, and forget about Firefox as it is barely accessible and tends not to 
> render some sites in a way the screen reader understands).
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Dave Carlson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Having trouble with MS-Edge lately. Not too thrilled with Safari and how 
>> chatty it is when filling in logon and passwords. What other browsers are 
>> you using with any success?
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer
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With a Bluetooth keyboard, how to hide or show the on screen keyboard

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, when using a Bluetooth keyboard on my iPad does anyone recall the 
keyboard command to hide or show the on-screen keyboard? thanks
Sincerely,
Frank Ventura

frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com

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