date:20200722

Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread FIOGKOS

Hi Donna and all thank you very much for your help and suggestions. What seems 
to work for me is iCloud and text edit is good enough for what I need to do. I 
actually don’t need these notes in the notes app since with iCloud and text 
edit I can actually view them on my iPhone in the files app which is wonderful 
because all I had to do was copy my whole entire folder on my Mac and put it in 
iCloud and so I pasted it and boom there it was on my iPhone which is great. I 
realize this is a Mac users list but just to mention if anybody knows and can 
email me privately I do also need these files on my windows laptop as I update 
them every so often I did try finding iCloud for windows but it it tells me to 
download from the Microsoft store and the store tells me I already on the app 
but I can’t find it anywhere on my PC I spent the whole day looking so I may 
have to update these manually on my windows unless somebody can privately help 
me find iCloud on my Windows laptop


Twitter
@FiogkosZoe

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
he's late


> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:25 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> One more thing. You can obviously do this same thing with other backup and 
> storage options such as Dropbox, GoogleDrive, or maybe OneDrive. I use 
> iCloud, and I find syncing to be pretty seamless. I can't speak for the other 
> options, but I imagine someone on the list can.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Zoe,
>> 
>> Welcome back! So glad to hear that you are doing better!
>> 
>> I certainly don't have Tim's expertise, but I'll try and answer your 
>> question.
>> 
>> First, is there some reason that you need them in the notes app? If not, you 
>> could simply store the folder in iCloud. From there, you could access it 
>> from your mac, your phone, and your Windows laptop. If you Google iCloud for 
>> PC, you'll be able to download a version of iCloud for windows. Once that's 
>> installed, the only thing you would need to do is install an app that 
>> supports plain text on your phone. There is one called Text Editor that is 
>> easy to use and should do the trick. Alternatively, if you happen to have a 
>> subscription to Office 365, you could install that on your Mac and your 
>> phone and use Word.
>> 
>> If you do want to have them in Notes for some reason, then yes, I believe 
>> the only way to accomplish that would be to open a new note for each file, 
>> and then cut and paste the text.
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
 On Jul 21, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Karen Lewellen  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Zoe!
>>> I am sosososo happy to learn you are fully recovered.
>>> its  a shame Tim has left the list, this sounds like an easy task, but 
>>> unfortunately I do not have an answer for you.
>>> Sending Balloons  of welcome to you and your family though!
>>> Kare in Toronto.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, FIOGKOS wrote:
>>> 
 Good morning everybody, I hope everybody is doing well. Before I get to my 
 question some of you may remember me from approximately three years ago. 
 My name is zoe and I live in Toronto Ontario Canada. Due to a strange 
 illness I had to leave the list but now I am back. I am fully healed and 
 ready to go. I am still a Mac newbie user for obvious reasons I wasn’t 
 able to progress with my learning. I seem to be doing well now and 
 progressing slowly. I understand the concept of disclosure triangles, 
 navigating menus, navigating the dock and the desktop, etc. of course I 
 may still have a few tiny questions about these things but in general I am 
 doing OK. Google is my friend and I have found a lot of answers on Google. 
 It’s not always easy to find answers on Google win you search a question 
 adding the phrase using voice over.
 obviously there are lots of people who belong to many lists and may have 
 seen some of my messages on other lists as well. I apologize to those who 
 may be seeing the same question posted on another list.
 Let me explain my question. I am still using a Windows laptop as well. I 
 have very important text documents on my windows that I have backed up to 
 a portable USB stick. I inserted the USB stick into my Mac and to my 
 delight I was able to view the files on the Mac and copy them and paste 
 them into a new folder on my Mac. These documents need to be updated with 
 information every so often. Meaning I need to have these documents as 
 plain text documents on my Mac so that I can update them and update the 
 info on the portable USB stick and the Windows laptop. Here’s where my 
 question comes in. I also would like to sync these notes onto my iPhone. I 
 realize that I cannot save these plain text documents or copy paste them 
 into the notes App.
 Do I need to m

Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread dan d.



I have a suggestion for doing google searches.  As you no doubt discovered 
using voiceover as a single search term also brings up the practice
of adding voice commentary.

Use as the first search term os10, that is the generic term for the mac 
operating system.  Then add voiceover and the paticular info desired
about it.  You should not get the voice added meaning of voiceover in the 
results.

Google uses search term order as one rule for searching and adding or excluding 
results..


On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, FIOGKOS wrote:

> Good morning everybody, I hope everybody is doing well. Before I get to my 
> question some of you may remember me from approximately three years ago. My 
> name is zoe and I live in Toronto Ontario Canada. Due to a strange illness I 
> had to leave the list but now I am back. I am fully healed and ready to go. I 
> am still a Mac newbie user for obvious reasons I wasn???t able to progress 
> with my learning. I seem to be doing well now and progressing slowly. I 
> understand the concept of disclosure triangles, navigating menus, navigating 
> the dock and the desktop, etc. of course I may still have a few tiny 
> questions about these things but in general I am doing OK. Google is my 
> friend and I have found a lot of answers on Google. It???s not always easy to 
> find answers on Google win you search a question adding the phrase using 
> voice over.
> obviously there are lots of people who belong to many lists and may have seen 
> some of my messages on other lists as well. I apologize to those who may be 
> seeing the same question posted on another list.
> Let me explain my question. I am still using a Windows laptop as well. I have 
> very important text documents on my windows that I have backed up to a 
> portable USB stick. I inserted the USB stick into my Mac and to my delight I 
> was able to view the files on the Mac and copy them and paste them into a new 
> folder on my Mac. These documents need to be updated with information every 
> so often. Meaning I need to have these documents as plain text documents on 
> my Mac so that I can update them and update the info on the portable USB 
> stick and the Windows laptop. Here???s where my question comes in. I also 
> would like to sync these notes onto my iPhone. I realize that I cannot save 
> these plain text documents or copy paste them into the notes App.
> Do I need to manually open each plain text document copy the text open a new 
> note on the Notes app and paste the text? Is there an easier way to copy 
> these documents and convert them into the proper format so that I can paste 
> them in my notes app? So I would like 2 copies of these notes on my Mac a 
> folder with plain text documents and also to have them in my notes app so in 
> essence my question is is there an easy way to do this or do I have to do it 
> manually?
> Thanks in advance for any help, I look forward to hearing from all of you.
> Regards zoe
>
>
> Twitter
> @FiogkosZoe
>
> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
> he's late
>
>
>

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Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Zoe,

It sounds like your PC may not be signed in to iCloud. Go to icloud.com and try 
signing in. Once you’re signed in, make sure files is enabled. Sorry not to be 
more specific, but it’s been a while since I set that up, and I don’t remember  
exactly how it worked.
Cheers,
Donna


Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:22 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna and all thank you very much for your help and suggestions. What 
> seems to work for me is iCloud and text edit is good enough for what I need 
> to do. I actually don’t need these notes in the notes app since with iCloud 
> and text edit I can actually view them on my iPhone in the files app which is 
> wonderful because all I had to do was copy my whole entire folder on my Mac 
> and put it in iCloud and so I pasted it and boom there it was on my iPhone 
> which is great. I realize this is a Mac users list but just to mention if 
> anybody knows and can email me privately I do also need these files on my 
> windows laptop as I update them every so often I did try finding iCloud for 
> windows but it it tells me to download from the Microsoft store and the store 
> tells me I already on the app but I can’t find it anywhere on my PC I spent 
> the whole day looking so I may have to update these manually on my windows 
> unless somebody can privately help me find iCloud on my Windows laptop
> 
> 
> Twitter
> @FiogkosZoe
> 
> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
> he's late
> 
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:25 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> One more thing. You can obviously do this same thing with other backup and 
>> storage options such as Dropbox, GoogleDrive, or maybe OneDrive. I use 
>> iCloud, and I find syncing to be pretty seamless. I can't speak for the 
>> other options, but I imagine someone on the list can.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
 On Jul 21, 2020, at 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Zoe,
>>> 
>>> Welcome back! So glad to hear that you are doing better!
>>> 
>>> I certainly don't have Tim's expertise, but I'll try and answer your 
>>> question.
>>> 
>>> First, is there some reason that you need them in the notes app? If not, 
>>> you could simply store the folder in iCloud. From there, you could access 
>>> it from your mac, your phone, and your Windows laptop. If you Google iCloud 
>>> for PC, you'll be able to download a version of iCloud for windows. Once 
>>> that's installed, the only thing you would need to do is install an app 
>>> that supports plain text on your phone. There is one called Text Editor 
>>> that is easy to use and should do the trick. Alternatively, if you happen 
>>> to have a subscription to Office 365, you could install that on your Mac 
>>> and your phone and use Word.
>>> 
>>> If you do want to have them in Notes for some reason, then yes, I believe 
>>> the only way to accomplish that would be to open a new note for each file, 
>>> and then cut and paste the text.
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
> On Jul 21, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Karen Lewellen  
> wrote:
 
 Zoe!
 I am sosososo happy to learn you are fully recovered.
 its  a shame Tim has left the list, this sounds like an easy task, but 
 unfortunately I do not have an answer for you.
 Sending Balloons  of welcome to you and your family though!
 Kare in Toronto.
 
 
 
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, FIOGKOS wrote:
 
> Good morning everybody, I hope everybody is doing well. Before I get to 
> my question some of you may remember me from approximately three years 
> ago. My name is zoe and I live in Toronto Ontario Canada. Due to a 
> strange illness I had to leave the list but now I am back. I am fully 
> healed and ready to go. I am still a Mac newbie user for obvious reasons 
> I wasn’t able to progress with my learning. I seem to be doing well now 
> and progressing slowly. I understand the concept of disclosure triangles, 
> navigating menus, navigating the dock and the desktop, etc. of course I 
> may still have a few tiny questions about these things but in general I 
> am doing OK. Google is my friend and I have found a lot of answers on 
> Google. It’s not always easy to find answers on Google win you search a 
> question adding the phrase using voice over.
> obviously there are lots of people who belong to many lists and may have 
> seen some of my messages on other lists as well. I apologize to those who 
> may be seeing the same question posted on another list.
> Let me explain my question. I am still using a Windows laptop as well. I 
> have very important text documents on my windows that I have backed up to 
> a portable USB stick. I inserted the USB stick into my Mac and to my 
> delight I was able to view the files on the Mac and copy them and paste 
> them into a new folder on my Mac.

Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries

Isn’t it supposed to be in the system tray? If it’s not in the normal one, try 
pressing the notification chevron button or whatever that’s called, I’m sorry 
I’m not on my PC right now but it’s the first button you land on when you press 
Windows + B.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
Https://devinprater.github.io

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Zoe,
> 
> It sounds like your PC may not be signed in to iCloud. Go to icloud.com and 
> try signing in. Once you’re signed in, make sure files is enabled. Sorry not 
> to be more specific, but it’s been a while since I set that up, and I don’t 
> remember  exactly how it worked.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:22 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna and all thank you very much for your help and suggestions. What 
>> seems to work for me is iCloud and text edit is good enough for what I need 
>> to do. I actually don’t need these notes in the notes app since with iCloud 
>> and text edit I can actually view them on my iPhone in the files app which 
>> is wonderful because all I had to do was copy my whole entire folder on my 
>> Mac and put it in iCloud and so I pasted it and boom there it was on my 
>> iPhone which is great. I realize this is a Mac users list but just to 
>> mention if anybody knows and can email me privately I do also need these 
>> files on my windows laptop as I update them every so often I did try finding 
>> iCloud for windows but it it tells me to download from the Microsoft store 
>> and the store tells me I already on the app but I can’t find it anywhere on 
>> my PC I spent the whole day looking so I may have to update these manually 
>> on my windows unless somebody can privately help me find iCloud on my 
>> Windows laptop
>> 
>> 
>> Twitter
>> @FiogkosZoe
>> 
>> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
>> he's late
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:25 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> One more thing. You can obviously do this same thing with other backup and 
>>> storage options such as Dropbox, GoogleDrive, or maybe OneDrive. I use 
>>> iCloud, and I find syncing to be pretty seamless. I can't speak for the 
>>> other options, but I imagine someone on the list can.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
> On Jul 21, 2020, at 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
 Hi Zoe,
 
 Welcome back! So glad to hear that you are doing better!
 
 I certainly don't have Tim's expertise, but I'll try and answer your 
 question.
 
 First, is there some reason that you need them in the notes app? If not, 
 you could simply store the folder in iCloud. From there, you could access 
 it from your mac, your phone, and your Windows laptop. If you Google 
 iCloud for PC, you'll be able to download a version of iCloud for windows. 
 Once that's installed, the only thing you would need to do is install an 
 app that supports plain text on your phone. There is one called Text 
 Editor that is easy to use and should do the trick. Alternatively, if you 
 happen to have a subscription to Office 365, you could install that on 
 your Mac and your phone and use Word.
 
 If you do want to have them in Notes for some reason, then yes, I believe 
 the only way to accomplish that would be to open a new note for each file, 
 and then cut and paste the text.
 
 I hope this helps.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>> wrote:
> 
> Zoe!
> I am sosososo happy to learn you are fully recovered.
> its  a shame Tim has left the list, this sounds like an easy task, but 
> unfortunately I do not have an answer for you.
> Sending Balloons  of welcome to you and your family though!
> Kare in Toronto.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, FIOGKOS wrote:
> 
>> Good morning everybody, I hope everybody is doing well. Before I get to 
>> my question some of you may remember me from approximately three years 
>> ago. My name is zoe and I live in Toronto Ontario Canada. Due to a 
>> strange illness I had to leave the list but now I am back. I am fully 
>> healed and ready to go. I am still a Mac newbie user for obvious reasons 
>> I wasn’t able to progress with my learning. I seem to be doing well now 
>> and progressing slowly. I understand the concept of disclosure 
>> triangles, navigating menus, navigating the dock and the desktop, etc. 
>> of course I may still have a few tiny questions about these things but 
>> in general I am doing OK. Google is my friend and I have found a lot of 
>> answers on Google. It’s not always easy to find answers on Google win 
>> you search a question adding the phrase using voice over.
>> obviously there are lots of people who belong to many lists a

Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread FIOGKOS

Hi everybody at Donna I have signed in Devon know it’s not in the tray or in 
the notification whatchamacallit thing I’m a little worried that we’re getting 
off topic for this list because we’re talking about windows so if anybody has 
any other ideas and can email me privately that would be great however I was 
just told that to iCloud on windows isn’t accessible with the screen readers 
not that I do not believe that but I’m curious how you Dona are using it if 
it’s not accessible to us

Twitter
@FiogkosZoe

Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
he's late


> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:29 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Isn’t it supposed to be in the system tray? If it’s not in the normal one, 
> try pressing the notification chevron button or whatever that’s called, I’m 
> sorry I’m not on my PC right now but it’s the first button you land on when 
> you press Windows + B.
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> Https://devinprater.github.io
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Zoe,
>> 
>> It sounds like your PC may not be signed in to iCloud. Go to icloud.com and 
>> try signing in. Once you’re signed in, make sure files is enabled. Sorry not 
>> to be more specific, but it’s been a while since I set that up, and I don’t 
>> remember  exactly how it worked.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:22 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna and all thank you very much for your help and suggestions. What 
>>> seems to work for me is iCloud and text edit is good enough for what I need 
>>> to do. I actually don’t need these notes in the notes app since with iCloud 
>>> and text edit I can actually view them on my iPhone in the files app which 
>>> is wonderful because all I had to do was copy my whole entire folder on my 
>>> Mac and put it in iCloud and so I pasted it and boom there it was on my 
>>> iPhone which is great. I realize this is a Mac users list but just to 
>>> mention if anybody knows and can email me privately I do also need these 
>>> files on my windows laptop as I update them every so often I did try 
>>> finding iCloud for windows but it it tells me to download from the 
>>> Microsoft store and the store tells me I already on the app but I can’t 
>>> find it anywhere on my PC I spent the whole day looking so I may have to 
>>> update these manually on my windows unless somebody can privately help me 
>>> find iCloud on my Windows laptop
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Twitter
>>> @FiogkosZoe
>>> 
>>> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel 
>>> when he's late
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:25 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 One more thing. You can obviously do this same thing with other backup 
 and storage options such as Dropbox, GoogleDrive, or maybe OneDrive. I use 
 iCloud, and I find syncing to be pretty seamless. I can't speak for the 
 other options, but I imagine someone on the list can.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Zoe,
> 
> Welcome back! So glad to hear that you are doing better!
> 
> I certainly don't have Tim's expertise, but I'll try and answer your 
> question.
> 
> First, is there some reason that you need them in the notes app? If not, 
> you could simply store the folder in iCloud. From there, you could access 
> it from your mac, your phone, and your Windows laptop. If you Google 
> iCloud for PC, you'll be able to download a version of iCloud for 
> windows. Once that's installed, the only thing you would need to do is 
> install an app that supports plain text on your phone. There is one 
> called Text Editor that is easy to use and should do the trick. 
> Alternatively, if you happen to have a subscription to Office 365, you 
> could install that on your Mac and your phone and use Word.
> 
> If you do want to have them in Notes for some reason, then yes, I believe 
> the only way to accomplish that would be to open a new note for each 
> file, and then cut and paste the text.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Zoe!
>> I am sosososo happy to learn you are fully recovered.
>> its  a shame Tim has left the list, this sounds like an easy task, but 
>> unfortunately I do not have an answer for you.
>> Sending Balloons  of welcome to you and your family though!
>> Kare in Toronto.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, FIOGKOS wrote:
>> 
>>> Good morning everybody, I hope everybody is doing well. Before I get to 
>>> my question some of you may remember me from approximately three years 
>>> ago. My name is zoe and

Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Hi Zoe,

We’re talking about iCloud, so at least to my thinking we’re still on topic.

ICloud on my PC shows up on my desktop, and behaves just like an additional 
folder. It sometimes takes my PC a little longer to sync than it does my Mac, 
but I am able to view and work with my files from Mac, IOS, and Pc.

Since you’ve gotten a message that you have already downloaded iCloud, I’m 
wondering if you don’t have it set up to appear on your desktop. Try pressing 
the Search key, and typing iCloud. If that brings up your iCloud drive, try 
using the applications key to have it show on your desktop.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:38 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody at Donna I have signed in Devon know it’s not in the tray or in 
> the notification whatchamacallit thing I’m a little worried that we’re 
> getting off topic for this list because we’re talking about windows so if 
> anybody has any other ideas and can email me privately that would be great 
> however I was just told that to iCloud on windows isn’t accessible with the 
> screen readers not that I do not believe that but I’m curious how you Dona 
> are using it if it’s not accessible to us
> 
> Twitter
> @FiogkosZoe
> 
> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
> he's late
> 
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:29 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Isn’t it supposed to be in the system tray? If it’s not in the normal one, 
>> try pressing the notification chevron button or whatever that’s called, I’m 
>> sorry I’m not on my PC right now but it’s the first button you land on when 
>> you press Windows + B.
>> Devin Prater
>> d.pra...@me.com
>> Https://devinprater.github.io
>> 
 On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Zoe,
>>> 
>>> It sounds like your PC may not be signed in to iCloud. Go to icloud.com and 
>>> try signing in. Once you’re signed in, make sure files is enabled. Sorry 
>>> not to be more specific, but it’s been a while since I set that up, and I 
>>> don’t remember  exactly how it worked.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:22 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:

 Hi Donna and all thank you very much for your help and suggestions. What 
 seems to work for me is iCloud and text edit is good enough for what I 
 need to do. I actually don’t need these notes in the notes app since with 
 iCloud and text edit I can actually view them on my iPhone in the files 
 app which is wonderful because all I had to do was copy my whole entire 
 folder on my Mac and put it in iCloud and so I pasted it and boom there it 
 was on my iPhone which is great. I realize this is a Mac users list but 
 just to mention if anybody knows and can email me privately I do also need 
 these files on my windows laptop as I update them every so often I did try 
 finding iCloud for windows but it it tells me to download from the 
 Microsoft store and the store tells me I already on the app but I can’t 
 find it anywhere on my PC I spent the whole day looking so I may have to 
 update these manually on my windows unless somebody can privately help me 
 find iCloud on my Windows laptop

 Twitter
 @FiogkosZoe

 Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel 
 when he's late

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:25 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> One more thing. You can obviously do this same thing with other backup 
> and storage options such as Dropbox, GoogleDrive, or maybe OneDrive. I 
> use iCloud, and I find syncing to be pretty seamless. I can't speak for 
> the other options, but I imagine someone on the list can.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Zoe,
>> 
>> Welcome back! So glad to hear that you are doing better!
>> 
>> I certainly don't have Tim's expertise, but I'll try and answer your 
>> question.
>> 
>> First, is there some reason that you need them in the notes app? If not, 
>> you could simply store the folder in iCloud. From there, you could 
>> access it from your mac, your phone, and your Windows laptop. If you 
>> Google iCloud for PC, you'll be able to download a version of iCloud for 
>> windows. Once that's installed, the only thing you would need to do is 
>> install an app that supports plain text on your phone. There is one 
>> called Text Editor that is easy to use and should do the trick. 
>> Alternatively, if you happen to have a subscription to Office 365, you 
>> could install that on your Mac and your phone and use Word.
>> 
>> If you do want to have them in Notes for some reason, then yes, I 
>> believe the only way to accompli

Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread FIOGKOS

Hi Donna, yes I already tried all of that. It doesn’t show up on my desktop, 
taskbar, or anywhere for that matter. I did type a search in the start menu and 
the only thing that comes up is iCloud sync and nothing else do you think 
that’s what I am looking for?

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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:45 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Zoe,
> 
> We’re talking about iCloud, so at least to my thinking we’re still on topic.
> 
> ICloud on my PC shows up on my desktop, and behaves just like an additional 
> folder. It sometimes takes my PC a little longer to sync than it does my Mac, 
> but I am able to view and work with my files from Mac, IOS, and Pc.
> 
> Since you’ve gotten a message that you have already downloaded iCloud, I’m 
> wondering if you don’t have it set up to appear on your desktop. Try pressing 
> the Search key, and typing iCloud. If that brings up your iCloud drive, try 
> using the applications key to have it show on your desktop.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:38 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everybody at Donna I have signed in Devon know it’s not in the tray or 
>> in the notification whatchamacallit thing I’m a little worried that we’re 
>> getting off topic for this list because we’re talking about windows so if 
>> anybody has any other ideas and can email me privately that would be great 
>> however I was just told that to iCloud on windows isn’t accessible with the 
>> screen readers not that I do not believe that but I’m curious how you Dona 
>> are using it if it’s not accessible to us
>> 
>> Twitter
>> @FiogkosZoe
>> 
>> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
>> he's late
>> 
>> 
 On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:29 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Isn’t it supposed to be in the system tray? If it’s not in the normal one, 
>>> try pressing the notification chevron button or whatever that’s called, I’m 
>>> sorry I’m not on my PC right now but it’s the first button you land on when 
>>> you press Windows + B.
>>> Devin Prater
>>> d.pra...@me.com
>>> Https://devinprater.github.io
>>> 
> On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
 Zoe,
 
 It sounds like your PC may not be signed in to iCloud. Go to icloud.com 
 and try signing in. Once you’re signed in, make sure files is enabled. 
 Sorry not to be more specific, but it’s been a while since I set that up, 
 and I don’t remember  exactly how it worked.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:22 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna and all thank you very much for your help and suggestions. What 
> seems to work for me is iCloud and text edit is good enough for what I 
> need to do. I actually don’t need these notes in the notes app since with 
> iCloud and text edit I can actually view them on my iPhone in the files 
> app which is wonderful because all I had to do was copy my whole entire 
> folder on my Mac and put it in iCloud and so I pasted it and boom there 
> it was on my iPhone which is great. I realize this is a Mac users list 
> but just to mention if anybody knows and can email me privately I do also 
> need these files on my windows laptop as I update them every so often I 
> did try finding iCloud for windows but it it tells me to download from 
> the Microsoft store and the store tells me I already on the app but I 
> can’t find it anywhere on my PC I spent the whole day looking so I may 
> have to update these manually on my windows unless somebody can privately 
> help me find iCloud on my Windows laptop
> 
> 
> Twitter
> @FiogkosZoe
> 
> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel 
> when he's late
> 
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:25 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> One more thing. You can obviously do this same thing with other backup 
>> and storage options such as Dropbox, GoogleDrive, or maybe OneDrive. I 
>> use iCloud, and I find syncing to be pretty seamless. I can't speak for 
>> the other options, but I imagine someone on the list can.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
 On Jul 21, 2020, at 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Zoe,
>>> 
>>> Welcome back! So glad to hear that you are doing better!
>>> 
>>> I certainly don't have Tim's expertise, but I'll try and answer your 
>>> question.
>>> 
>>> First, is there some reason that you need them in the notes app? If 
>>> not, you could simply store the folder in iCloud. From there, you could 
>>> access it from your mac, your phone, and your Windows lapt

Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Hi Zoe,

So it looks like there are some differences, depending on the version of 
windows that you are running. If you are running Windows 10, you need to 
download iCloud from the Microsoft store. If you are running Windows 7 or 8, 
you can download it from the Apple store. Here is a link to Apple's page on 
setting up iCloud for Windows.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204283 
 
Hope this helps.
Best,
Donna

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:57 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna, yes I already tried all of that. It doesn’t show up on my desktop, 
> taskbar, or anywhere for that matter. I did type a search in the start menu 
> and the only thing that comes up is iCloud sync and nothing else do you think 
> that’s what I am looking for?
> 
> Twitter
> @FiogkosZoe
> 
> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
> he's late
> 
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:45 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Zoe,
>> 
>> We’re talking about iCloud, so at least to my thinking we’re still on topic.
>> 
>> ICloud on my PC shows up on my desktop, and behaves just like an additional 
>> folder. It sometimes takes my PC a little longer to sync than it does my 
>> Mac, but I am able to view and work with my files from Mac, IOS, and Pc.
>> 
>> Since you’ve gotten a message that you have already downloaded iCloud, I’m 
>> wondering if you don’t have it set up to appear on your desktop. Try 
>> pressing the Search key, and typing iCloud. If that brings up your iCloud 
>> drive, try using the applications key to have it show on your desktop.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:38 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody at Donna I have signed in Devon know it’s not in the tray or 
>>> in the notification whatchamacallit thing I’m a little worried that we’re 
>>> getting off topic for this list because we’re talking about windows so if 
>>> anybody has any other ideas and can email me privately that would be great 
>>> however I was just told that to iCloud on windows isn’t accessible with the 
>>> screen readers not that I do not believe that but I’m curious how you Dona 
>>> are using it if it’s not accessible to us
>>> 
>>> Twitter
>>> @FiogkosZoe
>>> 
>>> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel 
>>> when he's late
>>> 
>>> 
> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:29 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
 Isn’t it supposed to be in the system tray? If it’s not in the normal 
 one, try pressing the notification chevron button or whatever that’s 
 called, I’m sorry I’m not on my PC right now but it’s the first button you 
 land on when you press Windows + B.
 Devin Prater
 d.pra...@me.com
 Https://devinprater.github.io
 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Zoe,
> 
> It sounds like your PC may not be signed in to iCloud. Go to icloud.com 
> and try signing in. Once you’re signed in, make sure files is enabled. 
> Sorry not to be more specific, but it’s been a while since I set that up, 
> and I don’t remember  exactly how it worked.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:22 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna and all thank you very much for your help and suggestions. 
>> What seems to work for me is iCloud and text edit is good enough for 
>> what I need to do. I actually don’t need these notes in the notes app 
>> since with iCloud and text edit I can actually view them on my iPhone in 
>> the files app which is wonderful because all I had to do was copy my 
>> whole entire folder on my Mac and put it in iCloud and so I pasted it 
>> and boom there it was on my iPhone which is great. I realize this is a 
>> Mac users list but just to mention if anybody knows and can email me 
>> privately I do also need these files on my windows laptop as I update 
>> them every so often I did try finding iCloud for windows but it it tells 
>> me to download from the Microsoft store and the store tells me I already 
>> on the app but I can’t find it anywhere on my PC I spent the whole day 
>> looking so I may have to update these manually on my windows unless 
>> somebody can privately help me find iCloud on my Windows laptop
>> 
>> 
>> Twitter
>> @FiogkosZoe
>> 
>> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel 
>> when he's late
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:25 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> One more thing. You can obviously do this same thing with other backup 
>>> and storage options such as Dropbox, GoogleDrive, or maybe OneDrive. I 
>>> use iCloud, and I find syncing to be pretty seamless. I can't speak for 
>>>

Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread FIOGKOS

Hi again Donna thank you so much for trying to help. This is the strange issue 
I am running windows 10 not an earlier version. None of this makes any sense I 
already tried downloading iCloud for windows and Microsoft store tells me I own 
the app but as I said before I can’t find it anywhere.

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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

That sounds like something for Microsoft support, unfortunately. Even if you 
own it, you should be able to re-download it. You might try googling, Microsoft 
store gives message that app is already owned" or something like that, and see 
what you can find.

About the only other thing I can think of to suggest is that you use the 
Windows key to search for iCloud setup.exe. 
Good luck!
Best,
Donna

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:32 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
> 
> Hi again Donna thank you so much for trying to help. This is the strange 
> issue I am running windows 10 not an earlier version. None of this makes any 
> sense I already tried downloading iCloud for windows and Microsoft store 
> tells me I own the app but as I said before I can’t find it anywhere.
> 
> Twitter
> @FiogkosZoe
> 
> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
> he's late
> 
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>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread Tim M

Go back into the Microsoft store and search for iCloud again. Once you found it 
tab and see if there is not a install button. Sometimes you have t tab and 
click it twice to get it.
Tim M



> On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> That sounds like something for Microsoft support, unfortunately. Even if you 
> own it, you should be able to re-download it. You might try googling, 
> Microsoft store gives message that app is already owned" or something like 
> that, and see what you can find.
> 
> About the only other thing I can think of to suggest is that you use the 
> Windows key to search for iCloud setup.exe. 
> Good luck!
> Best,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:32 AM, FIOGKOS > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again Donna thank you so much for trying to help. This is the strange 
>> issue I am running windows 10 not an earlier version. None of this makes any 
>> sense I already tried downloading iCloud for windows and Microsoft store 
>> tells me I own the app but as I said before I can’t find it anywhere.
>> 
>> Twitter
>> @FiogkosZoe
>> 
>> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
>> he's late
>> 
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Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread FIOGKOS

Hi Tim I did that, many times, I even had my husband do it who is cited it does 
say install and open we click that and nothing happens


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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Tim M  wrote:
> 
> Go back into the Microsoft store and search for iCloud again. Once you found 
> it tab and see if there is not a install button. Sometimes you have t tab and 
> click it twice to get it.
> Tim M
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That sounds like something for Microsoft support, unfortunately. Even if you 
>> own it, you should be able to re-download it. You might try googling, 
>> Microsoft store gives message that app is already owned" or something like 
>> that, and see what you can find.
>> 
>> About the only other thing I can think of to suggest is that you use the 
>> Windows key to search for iCloud setup.exe. 
>> Good luck!
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:32 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again Donna thank you so much for trying to help. This is the strange 
>>> issue I am running windows 10 not an earlier version. None of this makes 
>>> any sense I already tried downloading iCloud for windows and Microsoft 
>>> store tells me I own the app but as I said before I can’t find it anywhere.
>>> 
>>> Twitter
>>> @FiogkosZoe
>>> 
>>> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel 
>>> when he's late
>>> 
>>> 
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Hi Zoe,
I am sorry this is so frustrating.
You mentioned finding an icloud sync option on your Windows laptop.
What happens when this is explored?
I have never been a windows user, but wonder if there is a way to get
details on an app before running?

Kare

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020, FIOGKOS wrote:

Hi Tim I did that, many times, I even had my husband do it who is cited it does
say install and open we click that and nothing happens

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On Jul 22, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Tim M wrote:

???Go back into the Microsoft store and search for iCloud again. Once you found
it tab and see if there is not a install button. Sometimes you have t tab and
click it twice to get it.
Tim M

On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

That sounds like something for Microsoft support, unfortunately. Even if you own it,
you should be able to re-download it. You might try googling, Microsoft store gives
message that app is already owned" or something like that, and see what you can
find.

About the only other thing I can think of to suggest is that you use the
Windows key to search for iCloud setup.exe.
Good luck!
Best,
Donna

On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:32 AM, FIOGKOS wrote:

Hi again Donna thank you so much for trying to help. This is the strange issue
I am running windows 10 not an earlier version. None of this makes any sense I
already tried downloading iCloud for windows and Microsoft store tells me I own
the app but as I said before I can???t find it anywhere.

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Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when
he's late

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Re: Default payment/credit card doesn't show as first in Wallet App on iPhone

2020-07-22 Thread Jonathan Cohn

I cant check this now, since I only have one card in my Apple wallet, but my 
memory is that if you open the wallet app and thn open the card you want to 
make default that there will be a button to do this.
If you can’t find it in the wallet app there is also a wallet section of the 
settings app.


> On Jul 21, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Tibor Niesner  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a problem with Wallet app. There are more credit cards. But default 
> credit card doesn’t show as first. It is in Wallet app on iPhone. 
> Can you help me?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Tibor 
> 
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Triode App for radio

2020-07-22 Thread Traci Duncan

Hi all, I’ve just downloaded the Triode App for listening to radio on the Mac. 
(Note the spelling of the app.) It’s made by the same folks that do 
Twitterrific.

So far so good. Of course I have a few wishlist things. I wish there is more 
keyboard navigation. Play/pause, volume, mute, etc. Possibly even a hotkey to 
read the current song playing. I’m running into some streams that for some 
reason or another do not work.

Positives: it is pretty easy to navigate and VO friendly. If song title and 
artist are available, they are easy to read and there is a setting to notify me 
when song changes. As I’m writing this message, the song changed and VO readout 
the new information. I like that.

So, you guys may want to give Triode a try. Maybe give the developer your own 
feedback. It is a free app, but if you want to save favorites, of course it is 
a subscription. ;) 

If not this app for listening to radio on the Mac, do you have suggestions? 
I’ve tried a couple and haven’t found one I really like.

Thanks,
Traci

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Four finger flick right & left

2020-07-22 Thread Traci Duncan

I’m curious is there a way to flick between running apps like there is on iOs? 
Four finger flick right & left switches between running apps on iOs. Is there 
an equivalent on Mac?

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: Plain text documents

2020-07-22 Thread FIOGKOS

Hi Karen, not exactly, what do I mean, well I type in iCloud and the thing that 
pops up is cloud sync something. It doesn’t say iCloud it says just cloud I did 
click on it and it looks like it’s for one drive so obviously that’s not what 
I’m looking for thank you anyway.


Twitter
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Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
he's late


> On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Zoe,
> I am sorry this is so frustrating.
> You mentioned finding an icloud sync option  on your Windows  laptop. What 
> happens when this is  explored?
> I have never been a windows user, but wonder if there is a way to get details 
> on an app before running?
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2020, FIOGKOS wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim I did that, many times, I even had my husband do it who is cited it 
>> does say install and open we click that and nothing happens
>> 
>> 
>> Twitter
>> @FiogkosZoe
>> 
>> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel when 
>> he's late
>> 
>> 
 On Jul 22, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Tim M  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Go back into the Microsoft store and search for iCloud again. Once you 
>>> found it tab and see if there is not a install button. Sometimes you have t 
>>> tab and click it twice to get it.
>>> Tim M
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 That sounds like something for Microsoft support, unfortunately. Even if 
 you own it, you should be able to re-download it. You might try googling, 
 Microsoft store gives message that app is already owned" or something like 
 that, and see what you can find.
 
 About the only other thing I can think of to suggest is that you use the 
 Windows key to search for iCloud setup.exe.
 Good luck!
 Best,
 Donna
 
> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:32 AM, FIOGKOS  wrote:
> 
> Hi again Donna thank you so much for trying to help. This is the strange 
> issue I am running windows 10 not an earlier version. None of this makes 
> any sense I already tried downloading iCloud for windows and Microsoft 
> store tells me I own the app but as I said before I can’t find it 
> anywhere.
> 
> Twitter
> @FiogkosZoe
> 
> Love Isn't butterflies in your stomach, love is the heart beat you feel 
> when he's late
> 
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
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Re: Four finger flick right & left

2020-07-22 Thread Jonathan Cohn

The standard way to do this is with command-tab. This is similar to alt-tab on 
windows, but only switches between apps, not windows.
There is also the voiceover command Application chooser vo-F2 (twice) this 
brings up a VoiceOver item list of applications. WHen youwhen you click on an 
application it then brings up a window chooser for the application. THe 
trackpad commander equivalent for this command is to tap twice with two fingers 
on the left side of the trackpad.
Best Wishes,
Jonathan Cohn 

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> I’m curious is there a way to flick between running apps like there is on 
> iOs? Four finger flick right & left switches between running apps on iOs. Is 
> there an equivalent on Mac?
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: Triode App for radio

2020-07-22 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries

Regardless of desktop operating system, I go to tunein.com and listen directly 
from their Web site. On iOS, I use their app.

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 17:18, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I’ve just downloaded the Triode App for listening to radio on the 
> Mac. (Note the spelling of the app.) It’s made by the same folks that do 
> Twitterrific.
> 
> So far so good. Of course I have a few wishlist things. I wish there is more 
> keyboard navigation. Play/pause, volume, mute, etc. Possibly even a hotkey to 
> read the current song playing. I’m running into some streams that for some 
> reason or another do not work.
> 
> Positives: it is pretty easy to navigate and VO friendly. If song title and 
> artist are available, they are easy to read and there is a setting to notify 
> me when song changes. As I’m writing this message, the song changed and VO 
> readout the new information. I like that.
> 
> So, you guys may want to give Triode a try. Maybe give the developer your own 
> feedback. It is a free app, but if you want to save favorites, of course it 
> is a subscription. ;) 
> 
> If not this app for listening to radio on the Mac, do you have suggestions? 
> I’ve tried a couple and haven’t found one I really like.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
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