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Nisus Writer

['Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hi guys,

What's the consensus on Nisus Writer? If I needed a step up from TextEdit—and I 
admit that I'm not really clear on why I would—then would Nisus Writer Pro be a 
worthwhile investment?

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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

[Jonathan Cohn]

I just downloaded Firefox 78 which will become the next ESR version of Firefox 
and hopefully I can see these rotors in action there. It would be disappointing 
if the ESR version gets stuck with only partial VoiceOver support as 
enterprises will be using it for at least a year forward.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> At this time voiceover just says there are no menu options available for each 
> category, I think that support will be coming later this year.
> Original message:
>> SO DOES THE ROTOR BRING UP NOTHING IN ANY CATEGORY, OR NOTHING AT all or is 
>> every list in it blank? Also, is this the production or beta?
> 
>> Best wishes,
> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Angus MacKinnon > > wrote:
> 
>> I have found Firefox to work better with VoiceOver (VO). However, VO + I 
>> brings up a small list of Items (about 37 items). VO + U has nothing but a 
>> blank window.
> 
>> Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
>> Ghandi said, “ It is better to have a heart without words than words without 
>> a heart.”
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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

[John Panarese]

  Please let us know what you discover. I’m using 77 here I believe now.


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> On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded Firefox 78 which will become the next ESR version of 
> Firefox and hopefully I can see these rotors in action there. It would be 
> disappointing if the ESR version gets stuck with only partial VoiceOver 
> support as enterprises will be using it for at least a year forward.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Mike Arrigo > > wrote:
>> 
>> At this time voiceover just says there are no menu options available for 
>> each category, I think that support will be coming later this year.
>> Original message:
>>> SO DOES THE ROTOR BRING UP NOTHING IN ANY CATEGORY, OR NOTHING AT all or is 
>>> every list in it blank? Also, is this the production or beta?
>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Angus MacKinnon >>  >> >> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have found Firefox to work better with VoiceOver (VO). However, VO + I 
>>> brings up a small list of Items (about 37 items). VO + U has nothing but a 
>>> blank window.
>> 
>>> Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
>>> Ghandi said, “ It is better to have a heart without words than words 
>>> without a heart.”
>> 
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Messages app on iPhone cluttered again

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

Shortly after the release of IOS 13, I posted to the list about the Messages 
app being cluttered, i.e. that when I have one message thread open, all the 
other threads still show up on the screen.  Someone on this list knew of a 
setting that got rid of that problem, but I don't remember what it was. Somehow 
that issue has reappeared for me recently. Does anyone happen to remember which 
setting it is that fixes that issue?
TIA,
Donna

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Downloading youtube videos to Mac

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello,
Can anyone recommend a VO friendly way to download youtube videos on Mac/OS 
Catalina for showing offline? I have searched the web for “How to download 
youtube videos” and found the replies complicated and confusing. I tried a 
couple of the recommended methods without reliable joy. I don’t mind a modest 
one off payment if that helps..
Many thanks for any tips … Paul Hopewell  

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Re: Downloading youtube videos to Mac

[Barry Hadder]

VLC is very helpful with this.

Copy the URL from the Safari address field.  Then in VLC, open the URL from 
the open network stream dialog.

Find the item in the play list table, go into media information and find 
the location address and copy it.

Open the link in Safari, vo-shift-m on the html area and choose download 
video or download video as.


On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 2:01:23 PM UTC-5, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>
> Hello, 
> Can anyone recommend a VO friendly way to download youtube videos on 
> Mac/OS Catalina for showing offline? I have searched the web for “How to 
> download youtube videos” and found the replies complicated and confusing. I 
> tried a couple of the recommended methods without reliable joy. I don’t 
> mind a modest one off payment if that helps.. 
> Many thanks for any tips … Paul Hopewell  

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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

[Jonathan Cohn]

OK, some step forward and some back.
1. Firefox 78 current version does not seem to support 
• Read Current character, word, sesentence, or line.
• The rotar still does not work.
• item list might work, NY TImes home page brought up about 90 items.
• Navigation commands to specific heading levels, font change, underlined text, 
bold text did not work.

Even more discouraging, Firefox nightly 80 currently is back to only reading 
where focus is, the rest of the web page is completely invisible to VoiceOVer.
Jonathan


> On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> At this time voiceover just says there are no menu options available for each 
> category, I think that support will be coming later this year.
> Original message:
>> SO DOES THE ROTOR BRING UP NOTHING IN ANY CATEGORY, OR NOTHING AT all or is 
>> every list in it blank? Also, is this the production or beta?
> 
>> Best wishes,
> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Angus MacKinnon > > wrote:
> 
>> I have found Firefox to work better with VoiceOver (VO). However, VO + I 
>> brings up a small list of Items (about 37 items). VO + U has nothing but a 
>> blank window.
> 
>> Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
>> Ghandi said, “ It is better to have a heart without words than words without 
>> a heart.”
> 
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Re: Downloading youtube videos to Mac

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> On Jul 7, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Can anyone recommend a VO friendly way to download youtube videos on Mac/OS 
> Catalina for showing offline? I have searched the web for “How to download 
> youtube videos” and found the replies complicated and confusing. I tried a 
> couple of the recommended methods without reliable joy. I don’t mind a modest 
> one off payment if that helps..
> Many thanks for any tips … Paul Hopewell  
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