install catalina or not?

[masood B]

hello. I would like to know if I should install Catalina or stay with high 
sierra? I heard Catalina has accessibility problems with some apps. thanks

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Re: install catalina or not?

[gerry cook]

well hi its to do with apps that are 64 bit instead of 32 bit so i’ve heard.  
its your choice. 

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Re: install catalina or not?

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Yes, if you have any 32 bit apps that you don’t want to lose then your best not 
upgrading. Unless there are 64 bit versions available.

Sent from Petrus's iPhone

On 23/05/2020, at 19:51, gerry cook  wrote:

well hi its to do with apps that are 64 bit instead of 32 bit so i’ve heard.  
its your choice. 

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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all is 
fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and breathe 
functions on the watch be it complications or not.

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> The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover notification comes 
> back 
> 
> The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the icon up 
> Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only try to 
> look in to it.
> 
> I just don't worry now.
> 
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> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
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RE: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all is 
fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and breathe 
functions on the watch be it complications or not.

> On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press 
> record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover 
> notification comes back
> 
> The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the 
> icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only 
> try to look in to it.
> 
> I just don't worry now.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
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> Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
> 
> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
> happening. Thank you for your help.
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RE: Convirtió MP3 files

[Simon A Fogarty]

Cheers I’ll be in touch as soon as I make a list of what I have so you can 
compare

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 9:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convirtió MP3 files

Yes, if that is the format that the books App uses then I’m looking to convert 
my MP3  books. I have quite a few and I’d like to work out how to do it myself. 
Thanks for the offer, but I’m happy to email you off list with some of the 
titles in case you’re interested in reading them.


On 22/05/2020, at 21:55, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

How many books do you have and are you looking to convert them to m4b file 
types?

I have windows machines with itunes which will convert mp3 to the m4b formats.

From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Friday, 22 May 2020 11:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convirtió MP3 files

Thanks, I’ll check with the boss first before I buy it as she is the holder of 
the finances in our family sharing account.



On 22/05/2020, at 11:25, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Yes, I’m pretty sure that I did pay $9.99 CAD as well.  They may have made it 
available in the App Store now for easier visibility.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Did you pay for it? As the one in the App Store was $9.99 NZ. I tried doing a 
google search in Safari but I get totally lost trying to use Safari so gave up.



On 22/05/2020, at 11:16, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I expect that it’s probably the same one.  Can’t see that someone else would be 
able to use the exact same name for an app.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’ll look for it. I did find one in the App Store called audio book builder 2  
but not sure if that was the same one.



On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But I 
Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve got 
lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to convert and 
import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it would be nice 
as well if one has the time.
Thanks in advance,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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Re: Apple Glass and iPhone 12 Rumors, iOS 13.5 Update, and More!

[lenron brown]

Hmm don't like the bit about them not including headphones but not
surprised about it. I always use my headphones that come in the box.
One less thing I have to buy and they last a while. I tend to use them
more than my Airpods.

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New SE slight concern

[Ian Harrison]

Hi all,

Very happy with my new SE, but have one slight concern. I use the two finger 
double tap to pause and resume audio in various apps and it is much slower to 
respond than with my 6S. So much so that I sometimes do it again thinking I did 
the tap badly. It then catches up and reverses the original action.

Anyone else having this slow response?

Thanks in advance
Ian

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Re: unintended freezing of iPhone

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,  
just updated today. So far it didn't happen again. Let see what future brings. 
Thanks for the responds. 
All the best
Jürgen


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 22.05.2020 um 22:43 schrieb Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Did you install any new Apps around the time this started happening?Have you 
> updated too 13.5 yet as this might help as well?
> 
>> On 23/05/2020, at 03:40, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don’t know when it startet but I guess it must have started one or two 
>> weeks ago. My iPhone 11 Pro suddenly freezes from time to time for ruffly 5 
>> to 10 seconds. After that period of time it works normal again. I restarted 
>> the iPhone but no change.
>> 
>> Has anyone experienced this as well? Is there a way to check the iPhone 
>> technically to find out if something is broken inside?
>> 
>> Thanks and all the best
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Re: install catalina or not?

[Brad Snyder]

I’ve been using Catalina for quite a while and have had no issues with 
accessibility of any kind.
There is of course the matter of 32-bit apps no longer being supported in 
Catalina, but that is not an accessibility issue.
Unless you have an application that is 32-bit that you really need and can’t 
get a 64-bit version, I’d go ahead and do the upgrade.

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On May 23, 2020, at 02:41, masood B  wrote:

hello. I would like to know if I should install Catalina or stay with high 
sierra? I heard Catalina has accessibility problems with some apps. thanks

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Re: install catalina or not?

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   Accessibility is no worse in Catalina. But 32bit apps are no longer 
supported. If tou use Clean y Mac you can easily check to see which apps 
are 32bit. Or go to About My Mac and browse the software list to see if 
you have any 32bit apps.


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On 5/23/2020 12:41 AM, masood B wrote:
hello. I would like to know if I should install Catalina or stay with 
high sierra? I heard Catalina has accessibility problems with some apps. 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

It sounds to me like the update did not apply properly to your watch.  I 
suggest you erase and restore it.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.

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Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all is 
fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and breathe 
functions on the watch be it complications or not.

> On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press 
> record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover 
> notification comes back
> 
> The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the 
> icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only 
> try to look in to it.
> 
> I just don't worry now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
> 
> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
> happening. Thank you for your help.
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

As Brad mentioned, Internet Accounts does not have a repository for passwords.  
Your Keychain is where these are stored, and I really don’t suggest that you 
attempt messing around with the keychain.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

I don’t find that the password for a Google account is stored anywhere in 
Internet Accounts.
I have a Outlook.com  email account, and I find my 
password is saved in the Outlook account settings.  This is not the case for 
either my Google account or my AT&T/Yahoo account.

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 16:30, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

can you tell me how to find these in system prefs/internet accounts in case 
this happens again?

> On May 22, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Glad you got it working.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 15:21, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I was trying to download my gmail on my Mac. I finally got them connected 
> again.
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to 
>> access her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
>> I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through Internet 
>> Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
>> I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple 
>> integrate their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its 
>> ungly head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in 
>> Mojave.  Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password 
>> requests, but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet 
>> accounts, then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc 
>> wherever and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that 
>> doesn’t work either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible 
>> work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that 
>> you had to suffer with.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
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>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
>> 
>> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
>> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
>> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
>> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
>> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
>> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
>> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
>> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

It’s fine this morning and hopefully I won’t have to reset it.

> On 23 May 2020, at 16:10, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
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> It sounds to me like the update did not apply properly to your watch.  I 
> suggest you erase and restore it.
> 
> Later…
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> On May 23, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  > wrote:
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> Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries  > 
> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
> 
> My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all 
> is fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and 
> breathe functions on the watch be it complications or not.
> 
>> On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press 
>> record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover 
>> notification comes back
>> 
>> The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the 
>> icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would 
>> only try to look in to it.
>> 
>> I just don't worry now.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries > >
>> Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
>> 
>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>> happening. Thank you for your help.
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Logictech K780 battery level

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello,
Many thanks for the tip of pairing the keyboard with my iPhone and then using 
the Today screen to find the battery level. That worked fine!
Using the bluetooth part of the menu bar on the iMac did not display the 
battery level to VoiceOver. It might have been visible to a sighted user. The 
only VoiceOver visible option for the K780 was a disconnect button.
Best regards … Paul Hopewell

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How do I go to the first message in the mail app on the mac

[Shirley Healy]

what command do I use to go to the top of my inbox, in other words, how do I 
get to the very first message? the latest one  that has arrived in? is there a 
command to go to it?
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download zoom to my mac

[Shirley Healy]

where can I get the zoom app? does anyone have a link to it?
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Re: How do I go to the first message in the mail app on the mac

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Shirley,
it depends: Either press Option up arrow or Option + Command + up Arrow.
Greetings Jürgen


> Am 23.05.2020 um 19:42 schrieb Shirley Healy :
> 
> what command do I use to go to the top of my inbox, in other words, how do I 
> get to the very first message? the latest one  that has arrived in? is there 
> a command to go to it?
> shirley
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Re: How do I go to the first message in the mail app on the mac

[Shirley Healy]

ok, will do, thanks….
shirley

> On May 23, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
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> Hi Shirley,
> it depends: Either press Option up arrow or Option + Command + up Arrow.
> Greetings Jürgen
> 
> 
>> Am 23.05.2020 um 19:42 schrieb Shirley Healy :
>> 
>> what command do I use to go to the top of my inbox, in other words, how do I 
>> get to the very first message? the latest one  that has arrived in? is there 
>> a command to go to it?
>> shirley
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Re: Pages and custom template

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Leo,
In Pages Preferences, I think you have to click on Change template and reselect 
your preferred one then press Choose. Close Preferences and your chosen 
template should be shown. Close the window and quit Pages, then reopen Pages 
and all should be well.
This works for me under Mojave, and for my husband under Catalina.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 19 May 2020, at 12:54, Leo Bado  wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
> 
> For some time I haven’t used pages, but I noticed it got updated several 
> weeks ago. During these days I opened the app to jot down a few instructions, 
> and I came across with a pesky issue. Pages doesn’t open the custom template 
> that I’ve been using for long time as my default template, and instead of 
> that, it shows me the template chooser. I went to preferences to check if the 
> last update had messed with some of my customized settings, but everything 
> was as it’s supposed to be set. However, I repeated the steps to set again my 
> favorite template as my default template, but pages keeps ignoring this and 
> every time I launch the app and press command plus n, it shows me the 
> template chooser.
> 
>  
> Is this a known issue on this last update? or Am I missing something here?
> 
>  
> Best,
> 
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

[Lorie McCloud]

I had some more trouble with this today. opened mail on my Mac and it was off 
line. but I found a place in the menu in mailboxes where it said "take all 
accounts online" and that did the trick.

> On May 23, 2020, at 10:13 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As Brad mentioned, Internet Accounts does not have a repository for 
> passwords.  Your Keychain is where these are stored, and I really don’t 
> suggest that you attempt messing around with the keychain.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> I don’t find that the password for a Google account is stored anywhere in 
> Internet Accounts.
> I have a Outlook.com  email account, and I find my 
> password is saved in the Outlook account settings.  This is not the case for 
> either my Google account or my AT&T/Yahoo account.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 16:30, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> can you tell me how to find these in system prefs/internet accounts in case 
> this happens again?
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Glad you got it working.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 15:21, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I was trying to download my gmail on my Mac. I finally got them connected 
>> again.
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to 
>>> access her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
>>> I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through 
>>> Internet Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
>>> I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple 
>>> integrate their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear 
>>> its ungly head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in 
>>> Mojave.  Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password 
>>> requests, but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet 
>>> accounts, then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc 
>>> wherever and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, 
>>> that doesn’t work either.  There’s references to it on the web with 
>>> possible work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the 
>>> behind that you had to suffer with.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
>>> 
>>> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords 
>>> button in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the 
>>> list.  If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
>>> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
>>> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
>>> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
>>> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
>>> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: New SE slight concern

[Dionipher Herrera]

i don’t know about that, it’s doing fine on my iPhone SE but i notice on 
deleting multiple words by tapping the  and releasing, sometimes it won’t work. 
   i find it very strange.  

> Il giorno 23 mag 2020, alle ore 3:08 PM, Ian Harrison  ha 
> scritto:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Very happy with my new SE, but have one slight concern. I use the two finger 
> double tap to pause and resume audio in various apps and it is much slower to 
> respond than with my 6S. So much so that I sometimes do it again thinking I 
> did the tap badly. It then catches up and reverses the original action.
> 
> Anyone else having this slow response?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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Repair permissions in Terminal

[Traci Duncan]

Ok all, I’ve read the article I’ll paste below and I’ve Googled a few of the 
steps, but I can’t get beyond the terminal point.

I successfully type resetpassword and the reset password screen pops up in the 
background. I focus VoiceOver on it, but I don’t know how to get to the icon to 
select my hard drive, then cary on with the steps.

Maybe this tip isn’t available in High Sierra…

https://blog.chron.com/techblog/2011/09/want-to-really-repair-permissions-on-your-mac-try-this/
 


Curious,
Traci

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Re: VoiceOver And iPhone Migration

[Jonathan Cohn]

Oh, and make sure screen curtain is off on your old phon!

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 22, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> 
> I’m upgrading from my iPhone 7 to the new iPhone SE, and the new phone is 
> arriving today. I was hoping I’d be able to use iPhone Migration to transfer 
> from the old to the new device. Will VO give me the right feedback so I can 
> align the two devices properly to do the initial part of the process? Are 
> there any other things I should know before I go this route? I can always 
> fall back to iTunes or iCloud, but the migration process really does seem 
> like it would be the way to go if it works OK with VO.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts or advice,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

[Brad Snyder]

I have experienced this before.  Sometimes, I find it helps to first take all 
accounts offline, and then back online.

- Brad -


On May 23, 2020, at 14:40, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I had some more trouble with this today. opened mail on my Mac and it was off 
line. but I found a place in the menu in mailboxes where it said "take all 
accounts online" and that did the trick.

> On May 23, 2020, at 10:13 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As Brad mentioned, Internet Accounts does not have a repository for 
> passwords.  Your Keychain is where these are stored, and I really don’t 
> suggest that you attempt messing around with the keychain.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> I don’t find that the password for a Google account is stored anywhere in 
> Internet Accounts.
> I have a Outlook.com  email account, and I find my 
> password is saved in the Outlook account settings.  This is not the case for 
> either my Google account or my AT&T/Yahoo account.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 16:30, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> can you tell me how to find these in system prefs/internet accounts in case 
> this happens again?
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Glad you got it working.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 15:21, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I was trying to download my gmail on my Mac. I finally got them connected 
>> again.
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to 
>>> access her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
>>> I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through 
>>> Internet Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
>>> I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple 
>>> integrate their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear 
>>> its ungly head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in 
>>> Mojave.  Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password 
>>> requests, but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet 
>>> accounts, then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc 
>>> wherever and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, 
>>> that doesn’t work either.  There’s references to it on the web with 
>>> possible work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the 
>>> behind that you had to suffer with.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
>>> 
>>> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords 
>>> button in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the 
>>> list.  If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
>>> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
>>> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
>>> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
>>> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
>>> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Joining Zoom meetings more efficiently from Mac using Chrome

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, if you are often going to the same meeting then you can just open the 
Zoom Application. In terms of going to the dialog, you can try vo-J or 
vo-shift-J and see if either of these go to the dialog. 
. 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 22, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> 
> Howdy folks. Here’s a quick question, and if the answer is simple and easy, 
> I’m hoping that others can enlighten me.
> 
> Using a Mac and the Google Chrome browser, is there a more efficient way of 
> sjoining Zoom meetings when activating a link?
> 
> My current process is to press Return on the link, causing the Chrome browser 
> to open. Once this happens, I have to stop interacting with the web page, 
> then move to the pop-up, interact with it, and then VO+Right to the Open Zoom 
> button. Now, I personally don’t have any issues doing this, but in thinking 
> of being more efficient, and in showing some of my clients an easier method, 
> I’m wondering if there is a different way. For example, does Google Chrome 
> have a hot key to focus a pop-up notification. Something similar to focusing 
> other areas. In Windows, there is a hot key, Alt+Shift+A, but I haven’t been 
> able to find an equivalent
> Hot key for Mac.
> 
> In doing some research, I found that Chrome used to allow for a check box to 
> always and automatically open certain programs based on the link type, but 
> this has apparently been removed for security reasons. My goal is to make it 
> so that a Mac user who uses Chrome, can simply press Return on a Zoom link, 
> and it will open in Chrome, then automatically redirect to Zoom app and enter 
> the meeting.
> 
> Thank you, and I hope my message makes sense.
> 
> 
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Re: download zoom to my mac

[Brad Snyder]

Here is a link to the Zoom Download center:

https://zoom.us/download

Once on the page, navigate to the second heading labeled :  "heading level 2 
Zoom Client for Meetings”.
Then navigate to  the next link that says :Download”.

HTH


- Brad -


On May 23, 2020, at 12:43, Shirley Healy  wrote:

where can I get the zoom app? does anyone have a link to it?
shirley

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Re: Five tips to speed up your Mac - CNET

[Brad Snyder]

The article makes good points.
I have never heard of App Zapper, but I have heard of other apps like Clean My 
Mac that do a lot of the same things.
Adding RAM and a new SSD is not as easy as the article makes it sound, 
especially for someone who is blind or vision impaired.
Adding more RAM will not affect your Mac’s ability to upgrade its version of 
macOS beyond a certain version.  This is dependent on other hardware 
considerations.

HTH

- Brad -


On May 23, 2020, at 12:31, Traci Duncan  wrote:

What are folk’s thoughts on this article? Has anyone used that AppZapper they 
recommend?

Would you add additional tips?

Lastly, if ram is upgraded in an older Mac, will it suddenly accept the latest 
OS?

Thanks,
Traci

> 
> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/five-tips-to-speed-up-your-mac/ 
> 
> 
> Five tips to speed up your Mac
> 
> Boost your Mac's performance and reclaim hard-drive space with this handful 
> of tips.
> 
> Feb. 7, 2017 6:00 a.m. PT
> Watch this: Upgrade your MacBook with an SSD
> 
> 4:29
> 
> The only place I like seeing a beach ball is at a beach or in a stadium 
> during a baseball game or concert. The one place I least like to see a beach 
> ball is on my aging MacBook Pro, where the spinning beach ball has become an 
> altogether too familiar a sight. If your Mac has become frustratingly slow, 
> there are a number of ways you can speed it up again.
> 
> Before you engage in any maintenance, I would urge you to take caution and 
> back up your data. For Macs, it's easy: grab an external drive and run Time 
> Machine 
> . With 
> your Mac's drive freshly backed up, you may proceed.
> 
> 1. Replace your Mac hard drive with an SSD
> 
> Moving from a traditional spinning hard drive to a solid-state drive (SSD) is 
> the single best thing you can do to improve the performance of an aging 
> MacBook. Follow Sharon Profis's instructions on how to upgrade your MacBook 
> Pro with an SSD 
> . 
> You'll be shocked at not only how easy it is to do but also at the huge 
> impact it has on performance.
> 
> I just performed the maneuver myself, replacing my 2011-era MacBook Pro's 
> 500GB hard drive with the 500GB Samsung 850 EVO 
>  . The Samsung SSD and a 
> SATA-to-USB cable kit cost me just north of $200 on Amazon. And the whole 
> procedure took less than an hour (not counting the half a day it took to 
> clone my MacBook's hard drive to the SSD).
> 
> Really, the hardest part of the whole thing was tracking down a size 6T 
> torx-head screwdriver for the four torx screws that help hold the hard drive 
> in place.
> 
> 2. Add more memory (RAM)
> 
> While you have your MacBook opened to replace its hard drive, take the 
> opportunity to add more memory. Like the replacing a hard drive, adding more 
> memory is a straightforward, simple process.
> 
> First, you need to find the right type of memory for your specific MacBook 
> model. The brand doesn't matter much, just be sure to buy the right amount, 
> type, and speed. Apple has a handy support page 
>  that shows the memory specifications for 
> a variety of models, along with an illustrated guide to replacing the memory.
> 
> In my case, my early-2011 MacBook Pro has two DIMM slots, each of which is 
> occupied by a 2GB module. Since I don't have any free slots, I will need to 
> replace those two modules with two 4GB modules. I need DDR3 memory with a 
> speed of 1,333MHz.
> 
> After finding the right RAM for your MacBook, follow the photos below to 
> install the new memory.
> 
> 3. Clean your Mac's hard drive
> 
> Sometimes, all your MacBook needs is a data clean-up. Over the years, you've 
> probably cluttered your Mac with files and applications you no longer use or 
> need.
> 
> Uninstall old Mac apps
> 
> To get started, let's look in the Applications and Downloads folders. If 
> there are apps in there you can't remember installing, odds are you can live 
> without them. Move them to the Trash to reclaim some hard-drive space.
> 
> There are files associated with every application you install, however, and 
> they are left behind when you simply move an application to the Trash. Since 
> Mac OS X doesn't have a built-in uninstaller, AppZapper 
>  can uninstall 
> apps and the related files. It's free for the first five zaps, after which 
> you'll need to pay $12.95.
> 
> Clean up applications you still use
> 
> Next, let's clean up the applications you are keeping. When you install an 
> app on your Mac, the piece of software arrives as part of a package of files, 
> including permissions that tell OS X which users can do what things with 
> specific files.
> 
> Over time, these permissions can get changed, resulting in your Mac lagging, 
> fr

Macbook pro 13 base model vs. 13 inch high end youtube review

[Terje Strømberg]

Sound like a serious review
https://youtu.be/u_eDOvrbnOE

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Re: Five tips to speed up your Mac - CNET

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I have another suggestion for performance improvements on MAC. Don't open C'net 
articles in Safari unless you have an ad blocker. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The article makes good points.
> I have never heard of App Zapper, but I have heard of other apps like Clean 
> My Mac that do a lot of the same things.
> Adding RAM and a new SSD is not as easy as the article makes it sound, 
> especially for someone who is blind or vision impaired.
> Adding more RAM will not affect your Mac’s ability to upgrade its version of 
> macOS beyond a certain version.  This is dependent on other hardware 
> considerations.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 23, 2020, at 12:31, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> What are folk’s thoughts on this article? Has anyone used that AppZapper they 
> recommend?
> 
> Would you add additional tips?
> 
> Lastly, if ram is upgraded in an older Mac, will it suddenly accept the 
> latest OS?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
>> 
>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/five-tips-to-speed-up-your-mac/
>> 
>> Five tips to speed up your Mac
>> Boost your Mac's performance and reclaim hard-drive space with this handful 
>> of tips.
>> 
>> Feb. 7, 2017 6:00 a.m. PT
>> Watch this: Upgrade your MacBook with an SSD
>> 
>> 4:29
>> 
>> The only place I like seeing a beach ball is at a beach or in a stadium 
>> during a baseball game or concert. The one place I least like to see a beach 
>> ball is on my aging MacBook Pro, where the spinning beach ball has become an 
>> altogether too familiar a sight. If your Mac has become frustratingly slow, 
>> there are a number of ways you can speed it up again.
>> 
>> Before you engage in any maintenance, I would urge you to take caution and 
>> back up your data. For Macs, it's easy: grab an external drive and run Time 
>> Machine. With your Mac's drive freshly backed up, you may proceed.
>> 
>> 1. Replace your Mac hard drive with an SSD
>> 
>> Moving from a traditional spinning hard drive to a solid-state drive (SSD) 
>> is the single best thing you can do to improve the performance of an aging 
>> MacBook. Follow Sharon Profis's instructions on how to upgrade your MacBook 
>> Pro with an SSD. You'll be shocked at not only how easy it is to do but also 
>> at the huge impact it has on performance.
>> 
>> I just performed the maneuver myself, replacing my 2011-era MacBook Pro's 
>> 500GB hard drive with the 500GB Samsung 850 EVO . The Samsung SSD and a 
>> SATA-to-USB cable kit cost me just north of $200 on Amazon. And the whole 
>> procedure took less than an hour (not counting the half a day it took to 
>> clone my MacBook's hard drive to the SSD).
>> 
>> Really, the hardest part of the whole thing was tracking down a size 6T 
>> torx-head screwdriver for the four torx screws that help hold the hard drive 
>> in place.
>> 
>> 2. Add more memory (RAM)
>> 
>> While you have your MacBook opened to replace its hard drive, take the 
>> opportunity to add more memory. Like the replacing a hard drive, adding more 
>> memory is a straightforward, simple process.
>> 
>> First, you need to find the right type of memory for your specific MacBook 
>> model. The brand doesn't matter much, just be sure to buy the right amount, 
>> type, and speed. Apple has a handy support page that shows the memory 
>> specifications for a variety of models, along with an illustrated guide to 
>> replacing the memory.
>> 
>> In my case, my early-2011 MacBook Pro has two DIMM slots, each of which is 
>> occupied by a 2GB module. Since I don't have any free slots, I will need to 
>> replace those two modules with two 4GB modules. I need DDR3 memory with a 
>> speed of 1,333MHz.
>> 
>> After finding the right RAM for your MacBook, follow the photos below to 
>> install the new memory.
>> 
>> 3. Clean your Mac's hard drive
>> 
>> Sometimes, all your MacBook needs is a data clean-up. Over the years, you've 
>> probably cluttered your Mac with files and applications you no longer use or 
>> need.
>> 
>> Uninstall old Mac apps
>> 
>> To get started, let's look in the Applications and Downloads folders. If 
>> there are apps in there you can't remember installing, odds are you can live 
>> without them. Move them to the Trash to reclaim some hard-drive space.
>> 
>> There are files associated with every application you install, however, and 
>> they are left behind when you simply move an application to the Trash. Since 
>> Mac OS X doesn't have a built-in uninstaller, AppZapper can uninstall apps 
>> and the related files. It's free for the first five zaps, after which you'll 
>> need to pay $12.95.
>> 
>> Clean up applications you still use
>> 
>> Next, let's clean up the applications you are keeping. When you install an 
>> app on your Mac, the piece of software arrives as part of a package of 
>> files, including permissions that tell OS X which users can do what things 
>> with specific files.
>> 
>> Over time, these permissions can get changed, resulting in you

Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi all,

I'm catching up on this thread. My heart rate complication sometimes comes and 
goes. As someone else said, it's been happening for a while. I occasionally 
have a blank space in my complications but if I doubletap on the blank space it 
does show my heart rate.

Gabe



> On May 23, 2020, at 8:57 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s fine this morning and hopefully I won’t have to reset it.
> 
>> On 23 May 2020, at 16:10, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It sounds to me like the update did not apply properly to your watch.  I 
>> suggest you erase and restore it.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 23, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > > 
>> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
>> 
>> My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all 
>> is fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and 
>> breathe functions on the watch be it complications or not.
>> 
>>> On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press 
>>> record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover 
>>> notification comes back
>>> 
>>> The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the 
>>> icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would 
>>> only try to look in to it.
>>> 
>>> I just don't worry now.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
>>> To: Macvisionaries >> >
>>> Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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RE: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes this is what I find also.

If you remember what complications you have on your watch face then you will 
know what is blank and what isn’t

Currently my just press record
Messages,
Mail and music are all blank but I can tap on them to open thenm and all the 
things I need to know are there.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Gabe Griffith
Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:59 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

Hi all,

I'm catching up on this thread. My heart rate complication sometimes comes and 
goes. As someone else said, it's been happening for a while. I occasionally 
have a blank space in my complications but if I doubletap on the blank space it 
does show my heart rate.

Gabe




On May 23, 2020, at 8:57 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

It’s fine this morning and hopefully I won’t have to reset it.


On 23 May 2020, at 16:10, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

It sounds to me like the update did not apply properly to your watch.  I 
suggest you erase and restore it.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all is 
fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and breathe 
functions on the watch be it complications or not.


On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press
record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover
notification comes back

The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the
icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only 
try to look in to it.

I just don't worry now.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications although 
they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this problem and if 
so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly but once you reboot 
the watch, they come back but this time it’s not happening. Thank you for your 
help.

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RE: Apple Glass and iPhone 12 Rumors, iOS 13.5 Update, and More!

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah but I think this is the push to Bluetooth headphones rather than the wired 
ones most people love.

 I have them with each of my phone but I don't use them now as I'm using my 
airpods constantly.

I am looking forward to hearing what the headphone announcement will be later 
in the year,

I'm not a fan of the pro pods but a lesser version might be a better option.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of lenron brown
Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:49 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Glass and iPhone 12 Rumors, iOS 13.5 Update, and More!

Hmm don't like the bit about them not including headphones but not surprised 
about it. I always use my headphones that come in the box.
One less thing I have to buy and they last a while. I tend to use them more 
than my Airpods.

On 5/23/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Good day all,
>
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> Some basic info regarding the covid tracing API
>
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RE: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Interesting thought.

Apple couldn’t figure it out as the complication is there it’s just voiceover 
doesn’t speak the complication.

But it’s also not all of them, just ones I add to the watch face,

The face / screen I use is the modula  with things I find useful during the day.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2020 3:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

Hi,

It sounds to me like the update did not apply properly to your watch.  I 
suggest you erase and restore it.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all is 
fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and breathe 
functions on the watch be it complications or not.


On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press
record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover
notification comes back

The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the
icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only 
try to look in to it.

I just don't worry now.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications although 
they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this problem and if 
so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly but once you reboot 
the watch, they come back but this time it’s not happening. Thank you for your 
help.

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