Re: Designing an accessible website for my Music Studio?

[Nebojsa Tasic]

As a backend web developer, I cannot agree with Daniel. Hosters do their 
work, but there are developers' work related to security. No hosters 
will analyze and improve your code.


I'll try to explain. Wordpress is very big and complex system. There are 
always bugs in such systems. Hackers look for bugs and use them to 
attack websites. There are many WP websites. When they find a key to 
hack one web site they can hack thousands of them. So, they have 
interest to work on that. On the other side, developers from WP team 
work on fixing bugs and improving the system. That's why I said you to 
update WP regularly.


There are various plugins for social media sharing, that's not the problem.

On 3.5.2020. 15:21, Daniel Chavez wrote:

Good day,
It is the host providers job to secure the site, as the client requests. As a 
host provided myself, I tell my clients that they are free to run e-commerce 
carts.
Most clients usually purchase an SSL certificate to secure their websites, and 
there are free alternatives for SSL certificates.
I did email you off list by the way, I’m not sure if you got it or not. If not, 
then I can re-email you.




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RE: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Waw,

I'm not sure how you could do this without the kids knowing they are being 
watched over,

I'm bloody glad in times like this I don't have kids,
I can only imagine how you guys are feeling about this.

I do know that in teams if you are a chat room owner then you have admin rights 
and I believe that would let you see what is going on in the room / team

Good luck and hope the kids start behaving.

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Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 3:27 AM
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Subject: Re: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

I am having the exact same problem! I'd love to find an accessible solution 
that doesn't involve taking away my boy's laptop, turning on the screen reader, 
checking what he's doing, and giving it back to him. He says he's doing work, 
which he seems to be when I check most of the time, but, I get weekly messages 
from his teacher saying that he's not submitting as much work as he should be. 
It's really frustrating.



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> I never thought I’d be needing to do this, however, I’ve been getting 
> messages from Hannah’s teacher stating that she’s not turning in 
> work/checking in on Microsoft Teams.  I’ve finally just made her. Come 
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> exactly what’s up on her. Screen, and know that she’s not just sitting 
> their listening to music with her headphones on, and unfortunately, 
> constantly hovering over her to make sure she’s doing it isn’t always 
> going to be an option, for multiple reasons, one of them being, that 
> not all of her lessons are auditory.  Has anyone ever done this, and 
> if so, what’s involved in getting it set up?
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RE: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Is it going to far to set up a web cam with mic so you can watch / hear what 
the kids are doing while studying?

I’ve seen this done with Microsoft  certification tests, where they basically 
video watch you while your sitting the online exam,

This was a few years ago now but it was a serviceable option at the time.
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 3:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

Hi,

You might wish to look at Chrome Remote Desktop.  It’s an extension you can use 
with Chrome that may work for you.  I’m not sure of how well things will work 
from an observation point of view, as most “remote-in” solutions are not 
particularly screen reader friendly with respect to reading the others screen 
contents.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 6, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Jessica Moss 
mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I never thought I’d be needing to do this, however, I’ve been getting messages 
from Hannah’s teacher stating that she’s not turning in work/checking in on 
Microsoft Teams.  I’ve finally just made her. Come out of. Her room to do her 
work, but would like to know how I can view exactly what’s up on her. Screen, 
and know that she’s not just sitting their listening to music with her 
headphones on, and unfortunately, constantly hovering over her to make sure 
she’s doing it isn’t always going to be an option, for multiple reasons, one of 
them being, that not all of her lessons are auditory.  Has anyone ever done 
this, and if so, what’s involved in getting it set up?

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RE: AirPods waterproof

[Simon A Fogarty]

Shouldn't matter apple say they aren't water proof to the poin they go through 
a washing machine.

 However if they were in the case I can see they might stay dry ish!

 But either way, don't tell apple they might want more money for the water 
proof earpods.

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Subject: Re: AirPods waterproof

JustWonderin':
  Were ThesePods: Apple's 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration AirPods?
or
Were these the AirPod PROs?
At 12:49 PM 5/6/2020, you wrote:
>My AirPods went through both the washing machine and the dryer, and 
>they're still working fine. I guess now I know they're waterproof.
>How's that for engineering?
>
>Sent from my IPhone
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RE: Question About E-mails from Ramy

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’m sorry I can’t see what the issue is!?

I’ve seen the Arabic text and not worried about it,
I hear  his name and it all just sounds like what I hear with everyone elses 
emails,

I personally think people need to relax a bit more and not be so judgemental 
about things that are really not getting annoyed about.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 8:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About E-mails from Ramy

My only gripe is that I have to hear his name twice and it takes up time. I’m 
not some kind of evil racist.
Sent from my IPhone



On May 6, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Unfortunately it isn't enough to just throw in a foreign language, you need to 
indicate it is a different language. in HTML you would usually use a span tag 
for this.
BonJour 
I wrote the above in textedit and saved it as bj.html (after making sure it was 
a plain text file). When I opened that file in Safari, VO read it in a French 
voice. I then copies the entire HTML page and pasted it below, I believe it 
will still use my  English synthesizer.
I even tried changing the spell check to French which is enough on Microsoft 
Word to change the language. So, I don't know how one writes multi-lingual text 
on Mac and have VO recognize it.

BonJour
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On May 5, 2020, at 4:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

You shouldn’t really notice any change unless you land on text that is in a 
different language.  If VO figures out the that it is French, or Spanish etc, 
it should change accordingly for pronouncing that, or those, words.  It will 
remain speaking Alex the rest of the time.

I’ll throw a French word or two in the sentence below to see if it works at all.

Bonjour, je m’appelle Tim.  Comment ça va?

A bientot.

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 5, 2020, at 1:52 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

I read Tim’s instructions but it’s not made any difference.  I land on that 
option and voice over does nothing when I press the space bar.


On 5 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

But I want to use Alex.  I just want to turn off the automatic language so 
those characters don’t get read out.


On 5 May 2020, at 20:46, Pete De Vasto 
mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you perform the below instructions, using the down-arrow instead of up will 
take you past the automatic language suggestion and land on other voices like 
Alex or Victoria or Samantha or whoever you want. At least, that’s what 
happened to me. Also, it may take a couple of seconds for VO to load the next 
voice you come upon when you do this.

Pete


On May 5, 2020, at 12:41 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

So how do you turn off the automatic language?  Couldn’t find it where the 
language was.


On 5 May 2020, at 18:44, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

This option can be found by holding down, VO + CMD + SHIFT, then + Left or 
Right Arrow until you get to Voice, then up arrow until you get to 
Automatically Select Based on Language.

HTH

- Brad -



On May 5, 2020, at 11:07, Dave Carlson 
mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Pete,
Think it’s under Settings/General/Keyboard. But not absolutely certain.


Dave Carlson
Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician


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RE: Bluetooth Thermometer?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Petrus,

Does the blind low vision nz have anything on their list of toys?

Or Amazon?
I have thought about getting one but never taken the time to look to deep.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:18 AM
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Hi ET,
Have you managed to find a bluetooth thermometer yet? I was surprised that 
there was nothing available in the Apple store given the health situation in 
the world at the moment. I do have a bluetooth  meet thermometer for cooking, 
but I’m certainly not going to use that on any part of my person.
They do have a contactless  thermometer at my work that reads out  your 
tempiture out loud when it is pointed at you, but that one isn’t bluetooth and 
I’m not sure where they got it.


On 5/05/2020, at 12:55, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  This is s good a time as any to ask about this. Is there a good accurate 
device that works with the iPhone for monitoring one's temperature? "Accurate" 
is key here. Thanks.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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Re: Endnote

[Ian Harrison]

Hi,
are you using the desktop app or the web site. I found the web site to be 
terrible due to so many popups etc. If it is the desktop app, this is the 
process I used to follow:
1. when I import a reference into endnote with an RIS file; focus reads out the 
reference.
2. I then right click; vo, shift m and various context menu options appear.
3. One option is to add the new reference to a group. If you have already 
created the group you arrow down to that group and click enter.
4. If you haven’t managed to set up a group in advance there is an option 
called new group or something like that.
5. I click on that then move over to the groups sidebar and rename the untitled 
group folder there; then I return to the reference and repeat the steps above.

This sounds a bit backwards, but I’ve never worked out how to create a new 
group in advance and then find it when adding a new reference; so I just stuck 
to this workflow.



Hope this helps and feel free to get back to me if I’ve been unclear or it 
doesn’t work for you.

Luck

> On 7 May 2020, at 00:03, muhammad babar Shahzad  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Thanks for your response. I need to use the groups feature within the 
> endnote. Because I have a number of references which I would like to organise 
> in different groups for my convenience.
> Again Thanks,
> Muhammad Babar.
> 
>> On 5 May 2020, at 2:21 am, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use it a little to so can also try to help 
>> 
>>> On 4 May 2020, at 10:53, Ian Harrison  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have been using it for my degree course and might be able to give some 
>>> sort of help.  If you want you can contact me off list at ihcla...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Happy to try and help but I am no expert at all.
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> Ian
>>> 
 On 4 May 2020, at 00:03, muhammad babar Shahzad  
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 Friends,
 Is anyone using the endnote referencing software with Mac? I would be 
 thankful for any tips to use it.
 Thanks,
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Re: Endnote

[Julie Rattray]

Hi,

If you go to the side bar as you described there is an option for new group - 
or maybe you need to bring up the context menu in that library but it can be 
done - I will double check process and send  

> On 7 May 2020, at 11:29, Ian Harrison  wrote:
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> Hi,
> are you using the desktop app or the web site. I found the web site to be 
> terrible due to so many popups etc. If it is the desktop app, this is the 
> process I used to follow:
> 1. when I import a reference into endnote with an RIS file; focus reads out 
> the reference.
> 2. I then right click; vo, shift m and various context menu options appear.
> 3. One option is to add the new reference to a group. If you have already 
> created the group you arrow down to that group and click enter.
> 4. If you haven’t managed to set up a group in advance there is an option 
> called new group or something like that.
> 5. I click on that then move over to the groups sidebar and rename the 
> untitled group folder there; then I return to the reference and repeat the 
> steps above.
> 
> This sounds a bit backwards, but I’ve never worked out how to create a new 
> group in advance and then find it when adding a new reference; so I just 
> stuck to this workflow.
> 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps and feel free to get back to me if I’ve been unclear or it 
> doesn’t work for you.
> 
> Luck
> 
>> On 7 May 2020, at 00:03, muhammad babar Shahzad  
>> wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> Thanks for your response. I need to use the groups feature within the 
>> endnote. Because I have a number of references which I would like to 
>> organise in different groups for my convenience.
>> Again Thanks,
>> Muhammad Babar.
>> 
>>> On 5 May 2020, at 2:21 am, Julie Rattray  wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use it a little to so can also try to help 
>>> 
 On 4 May 2020, at 10:53, Ian Harrison  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have been using it for my degree course and might be able to give some 
 sort of help.  If you want you can contact me off list at 
 ihcla...@gmail.com
 
 Happy to try and help but I am no expert at all.
 
 regards,
 Ian
 
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Re: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

[Jessica Moss]

That’s something I unfortunately can’t afford to invest in right now, and 
something needs to be. Done soon sense Hannah’s grades are really low,  and she 
has a tendency to lie and say she’s. Doing her work, and sense not all lessons 
are live, and therefore not auditory, I need to know exactly what’s on her 
screen VS what she claims to be doing.

> On May 7, 2020, at 4:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Is it going to far to set up a web cam with mic so you can watch / hear what 
> the kids are doing while studying?
>  
> I’ve seen this done with Microsoft  certification tests, where they basically 
> video watch you while your sitting the online exam,
>  
> This was a few years ago now but it was a serviceable option at the time.
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
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> Subject: Re: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.
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> Hi,
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> You might wish to look at Chrome Remote Desktop.  It’s an extension you can 
> use with Chrome that may work for you.  I’m not sure of how well things will 
> work from an observation point of view, as most “remote-in” solutions are not 
> particularly screen reader friendly with respect to reading the others screen 
> contents.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
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> 
> On May 6, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Jessica Moss  > wrote:
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> I never thought I’d be needing to do this, however, I’ve been getting 
> messages from Hannah’s teacher stating that she’s not turning in 
> work/checking in on Microsoft Teams.  I’ve finally just made her. Come out 
> of. Her room to do her work, but would like to know how I can view exactly 
> what’s up on her. Screen, and know that she’s not just sitting their 
> listening to music with her headphones on, and unfortunately, constantly 
> hovering over her to make sure she’s doing it isn’t always going to be an 
> option, for multiple reasons, one of them being, that not all of her lessons 
> are auditory.  Has anyone ever done this, and if so, what’s involved in 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
There were a few apps that had bluetooth Permission.
Sdly it didn’t fix my battery issue.
Guess i have to talk to some apple authorized technission.
/A

> 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:10 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I do 
> a reboot that way as well from time to time.
> 
>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Aha! That might help me too.
>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
>>> for. 
>>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
>>> we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
>>> used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
>>> location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
>>> I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
>>> but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
>>> on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
>>> sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
>>> fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
>>> performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
>>> Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
>>> checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
>>> life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
>>> they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
>>> Sorry for the rant, 
>>> Petrus 
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: A Remote Control for my AC and TV, can we?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Depends what brand you have i guess.
I have a Panasonic ce9 heat pump and there’s  a unit for that called airpatrol.
>From what i understand you should connect that airpatrol unit to wifi and then 
>you are able to use your Iphone as a remote via an app.
/A

> 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:45 skrev ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
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> I need to ask if we can find a way to tern Iphone Into A remote control for 
> AC, not smart, and the TV ?
> do not know if am dreaming or what, but one of the chalenges that i always 
> met, is how to read the remote for the AC.
> Any help will be highly appreciated.
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A Cretical Hard disc problem, can i fix it?

[Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر]

Hi all:

I have an External Harddisc 1 Tb, When i put on my mac machine, or windows, it 
is not visible,

now on mac, i can see it in the disc utility, i run the 1st aid, and it was 
successful, when i need to format it, format failed, and i got this error:
Unable to write to the last block of the device. : (-69760)
do not know what can i do, i tried mac extended journaled, X-fat etc, but no 
hope.
any help?

Thanks in advance 

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Re: A Remote Control for my AC and TV, can we?

[Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر]

Can we find this wifi thing for all Airconditions?

> On May 7, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Depends what brand you have i guess.
> I have a Panasonic ce9 heat pump and there’s  a unit for that called 
> airpatrol.
> From what i understand you should connect that airpatrol unit to wifi and 
> then you are able to use your Iphone as a remote via an app.
> /A
> 
>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:45 skrev ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩>:
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>> Hi all:
>> 
>> I need to ask if we can find a way to tern Iphone Into A remote control for 
>> AC, not smart, and the TV ?
>> do not know if am dreaming or what, but one of the chalenges that i always 
>> met, is how to read the remote for the AC.
>> Any help will be highly appreciated.
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Tim,

I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of the 
home button. What’s the “normal” way?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your ipHone 
> is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess with 
> things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version.  
> Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go to 
> the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
>> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I 
>> do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>> 
>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
 
 Hi all,
 I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
 for. 
 I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
 we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
 used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
 location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
 I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
 but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
 on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
 sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
 fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
 performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
 Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
 checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
 life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
 they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
 Sorry for the rant, 
 Petrus 
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Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

[John JD Denning]

Hey that’s good news to hear that the app is usable. I was having a lot of 
problems with it and even contacted with things and they had no solution. Which 
scale do you have? I know they have several. I had the body plus.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2020, at 05:17, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> 
> Petrus,
>  
> Does the blind low vision nz have anything on their list of toys?
>  
> Or Amazon?
> I have thought about getting one but never taken the time to look to deep.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
>  
> Hi ET,
> Have you managed to find a bluetooth thermometer yet? I was surprised that 
> there was nothing available in the Apple store given the health situation in 
> the world at the moment. I do have a bluetooth  meet thermometer for cooking, 
> but I’m certainly not going to use that on any part of my person. 
> They do have a contactless  thermometer at my work that reads out  your 
> tempiture out loud when it is pointed at you, but that one isn’t bluetooth 
> and I’m not sure where they got it. 
> 
> 
> On 5/05/2020, at 12:55, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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>   This is s good a time as any to ask about this. Is there a good accurate 
> device that works with the iPhone for monitoring one's temperature? 
> "Accurate" is key here. Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Question About E-mails from Ramy

[Phil Halton]

On iOS, and any and all mention of Remy‘s name, I hear it’s spoken first in 
English, and then in a second voice it is spoken in Arabic. So I’m getting an 
echo. And that’s a little annoying. It’s got nothing to do with race religion 
color creed or anything like that it’s just I’m getting a damn echo and it’s 
only with his name and that’s why I’m asking. Comprende?

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 7, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> 
> I’m sorry I can’t see what the issue is!?
>  
> I’ve seen the Arabic text and not worried about it,
> I hear  his name and it all just sounds like what I hear with everyone elses 
> emails,
>  
> I personally think people need to relax a bit more and not be so judgemental 
> about things that are really not getting annoyed about.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 8:37 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question About E-mails from Ramy
>  
> My only gripe is that I have to hear his name twice and it takes up time. I’m 
> not some kind of evil racist.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
>  
> 
> 
> On May 6, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately it isn't enough to just throw in a foreign language, you need 
> to indicate it is a different language. in HTML you would usually use a span 
> tag for this.
> BonJour  
> I wrote the above in textedit and saved it as bj.html (after making sure it 
> was a plain text file). When I opened that file in Safari, VO read it in a 
> French voice. I then copies the entire HTML page and pasted it below, I 
> believe it will still use my  English synthesizer.
> I even tried changing the spell check to French which is enough on Microsoft 
> Word to change the language. So, I don't know how one writes multi-lingual 
> text on Mac and have VO recognize it.
>  
> BonJour
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 5, 2020, at 4:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
>  
> You shouldn’t really notice any change unless you land on text that is in a 
> different language.  If VO figures out the that it is French, or Spanish etc, 
> it should change accordingly for pronouncing that, or those, words.  It will 
> remain speaking Alex the rest of the time.
>  
> I’ll throw a French word or two in the sentence below to see if it works at 
> all.
>  
> Bonjour, je m’appelle Tim.  Comment ça va?
>  
> A bientot.
> 
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> On May 5, 2020, at 1:52 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> I read Tim’s instructions but it’s not made any difference.  I land on that 
> option and voice over does nothing when I press the space bar.
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> But I want to use Alex.  I just want to turn off the automatic language so 
> those characters don’t get read out.
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2020, at 20:46, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
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> If you perform the below instructions, using the down-arrow instead of up 
> will take you past the automatic language suggestion and land on other voices 
> like Alex or Victoria or Samantha or whoever you want. At least, that’s what 
> happened to me. Also, it may take a couple of seconds for VO to load the next 
> voice you come upon when you do this.
>  
> Pete
> 
> 
> On May 5, 2020, at 12:41 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> So how do you turn off the automatic language?  Couldn’t find it where the 
> language was.
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2020, at 18:44, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> This option can be found by holding down, VO + CMD + SHIFT, then + Left or 
> Right Arrow until you get to Voice, then up arrow until you get to 
> Automatically Select Based on Language.
>  
> HTH
> 
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>  
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> On May 5, 2020, at 11:07, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Pete,
> Think it’s under Settings/General/Keyboard. But not absolutely certain.
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Re: A Remote Control for my AC and TV, can we?

[Brad Snyder]

I would think that the device Anders mentions would work only with a Panasonic 
unit.
I would recommend that you look into a WiFi thermostat.  There are many models 
on the market that will work with a variety of manufactures.  I have a 
Honeywell ComfortConnect thermostat.  It has an iOS app that is very accessible 
using VoiceOver.  I have had mine for about 6 years.  Honeywell has newer 
models with even more accessibility, including the ability to access the device 
using Alexa and more.

My HVAC guy recommended the Honeywell unit, so I would suggest you talk to your 
people and see what they recommend.

HTH 

- Brad -




On May 7, 2020, at 06:53, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
<⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:

Can we find this wifi thing for all Airconditions?

> On May 7, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Depends what brand you have i guess.
> I have a Panasonic ce9 heat pump and there’s  a unit for that called 
> airpatrol.
> From what i understand you should connect that airpatrol unit to wifi and 
> then you are able to use your Iphone as a remote via an app.
> /A
> 
>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:45 skrev ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩>:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> I need to ask if we can find a way to tern Iphone Into A remote control for 
>> AC, not smart, and the TV ?
>> do not know if am dreaming or what, but one of the chalenges that i always 
>> met, is how to read the remote for the AC.
>> Any help will be highly appreciated.
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Blocking senders on list

[Phil Halton]

I have blocked a sender on this list, but now their email still comes through, 
only it is tagged with the message “from blocked sender“. What kind of bull 
bLeep is this? What is the point of blocking if the  Blocked Sender still gets 
through? Is it because The The list management software is interfering somehow? 
   Any ideas out there? ps Don’t hate me for it it’s just my personal choice.

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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Brad Snyder]

I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a home 
button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the same 
time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the “Slide 
to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with one finger.

HTH


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On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Tim,

I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of the 
home button. What’s the “normal” way?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your ipHone 
> is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess with 
> things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version.  
> Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go to 
> the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
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>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
>> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I 
>> do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>> 
>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
 for. 
 I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
 we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
 used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
 location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
 I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
 but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
 on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
 sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
 fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
 performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
 Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
 checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
 life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
 they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
 Sorry for the rant, 
 Petrus 
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Re: Blocking senders on list

[Dave Carlson]

Phil,
Likely you need to set up a rule to delete the message to trash when it arrives.


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Re: Blocking senders on list

[Phil Halton]

Thanks Dave, actually I found a setting in the males settings concerning 
blocked sender options. You have to tell it to move the blocked message to 
trash, otherwise it leaves it in the inbox with a tag on it. I think though 
that if a block sender is in a thread, then the whole entire thread gets 
trashed. Not sure though and I am going to watch and test for that. It may be 
that you have to unthread in order to get this to work for a single sender.

Sent from my IPhone


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Re: Blocking senders on list

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

It may also be complicated by the whole “List” configuration aspects of these 
sorts of groups.  If you look at the eMail that is received, it is not actually 
from the sender.  It is from MacVisionaries.  So, even though you’ve blocked 
the sender, the actual eMail is sent from MacVisionaries on behalf of the 
sender.  Dave’s suggestion would probably be best in that you can use an extra 
rule to send the offending messages to the Trash mailbox.

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> On May 7, 2020, at 8:32 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Phil,
> Likely you need to set up a rule to delete the message to trash when it 
> arrives.
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you are 
spot on.

Later…


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Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a home 
> button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the same 
> time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the “Slide 
> to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with one 
> finger.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> BRADFORD SNYDER
> +1.214.893.8060
> wb...@swbell.net 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Petrus,
>> 
>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version. 
>>  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go 
>> to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
>> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
>> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
>> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
>> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the 
>>> regular way would probably work just as well but I usually get better 
>>> results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>>> 
 On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Aha! That might help me too.
 I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
 Thanks Petrus for that.
 /A
 
> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings  >:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
> ask for. 
> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
> permissions. 
> Sorry for the rant, 
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Blocking senders on list

[Phil Halton]

Those were my thoughts Tim, but as soon as they change that blocked center 
options setting in the mail settings, the particular message disappeared from 
the Macvisionaries inbox and went to trash. Although so did the entire thread 
it was contained in. So I guess the block sender setting works but it may have 
a problem with also taking the thread of messages along with it. I’ll have to 
watch and see.

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 7, 2020, at 10:50 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> It may also be complicated by the whole “List” configuration aspects of these 
> sorts of groups.  If you look at the eMail that is received, it is not 
> actually from the sender.  It is from MacVisionaries.  So, even though you’ve 
> blocked the sender, the actual eMail is sent from MacVisionaries on behalf of 
> the sender.  Dave’s suggestion would probably be best in that you can use an 
> extra rule to send the offending messages to the Trash mailbox.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:32 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Phil,
>> Likely you need to set up a rule to delete the message to trash when it 
>> arrives.
>> 
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician
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iPhone SE 2nd Generation, Audio Recording Question

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi everyone,

I’m very close to biting the bullet and ordering one of the 2nd generation 
iPhone SE’s to replace my iPhone 7. I noted with interest that they say when 
you record video with the camera app, you get stereo, but most audio apps like 
Pocket Recorder won’t handle stereo because of internal limitations. If any of 
you actually have the new SE, I was wondering if you get stereo audio if you 
use Voice Memos to record. That won’t stop me from getting the phone, I’m just 
curious.

Thanks as always,
Pete De Vasto

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Re: A Remote Control for my AC and TV, can we?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I don’t know.
You can at least do a google search for it.
/A

> 7 maj 2020 kl. 13:53 skrev ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩>:
> 
> Can we find this wifi thing for all Airconditions?
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Depends what brand you have i guess.
>> I have a Panasonic ce9 heat pump and there’s  a unit for that called 
>> airpatrol.
>> From what i understand you should connect that airpatrol unit to wifi and 
>> then you are able to use your Iphone as a remote via an app.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:45 skrev ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩>:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> I need to ask if we can find a way to tern Iphone Into A remote control for 
>>> AC, not smart, and the TV ?
>>> do not know if am dreaming or what, but one of the chalenges that i always 
>>> met, is how to read the remote for the AC.
>>> Any help will be highly appreciated.
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Brad Snyder]

👍😎

- Brad -

On May 7, 2020, at 09:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you are 
spot on.

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Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a home 
> button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the same 
> time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the “Slide 
> to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with one 
> finger.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> BRADFORD SNYDER
> +1.214.893.8060
> wb...@swbell.net
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Petrus,
>> 
>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version. 
>>  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go 
>> to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
>> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
>> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
>> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
>> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the 
>>> regular way would probably work just as well but I usually get better 
>>> results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>>> 
 On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Aha! That might help me too.
 I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
 Thanks Petrus for that.
 /A
 
> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Hi all,
> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
> ask for. 
> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
> permissions. 
> Sorry for the rant, 
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
> 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

That's the first I've ever heard of that. Thanks, I'll change my power-off 
procedure.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 7, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a home 
> button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the same 
> time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the “Slide 
> to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with one 
> finger.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> BRADFORD SNYDER
> +1.214.893.8060
> wb...@swbell.net 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Petrus,
>> 
>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version. 
>>  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go 
>> to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
>> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
>> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
>> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
>> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the 
>>> regular way would probably work just as well but I usually get better 
>>> results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>>> 
 On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Aha! That might help me too.
 I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
 Thanks Petrus for that.
 /A
 
> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings  >:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
> ask for. 
> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
> permissions. 
> Sorry for the rant, 
> Petrus 
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Re: Endnote

[Julie Rattray]

Hello,

So had to update my version of endnote because had upgraded to Catalina - but 
having checked what I said earlier following update.

If you go to the library list and interact with it and then bring up the 
context menu you have the option to create a group and then you are able to use 
your add process as described.



> On 7 May 2020, at 11:29, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> are you using the desktop app or the web site. I found the web site to be 
> terrible due to so many popups etc. If it is the desktop app, this is the 
> process I used to follow:
> 1. when I import a reference into endnote with an RIS file; focus reads out 
> the reference.
> 2. I then right click; vo, shift m and various context menu options appear.
> 3. One option is to add the new reference to a group. If you have already 
> created the group you arrow down to that group and click enter.
> 4. If you haven’t managed to set up a group in advance there is an option 
> called new group or something like that.
> 5. I click on that then move over to the groups sidebar and rename the 
> untitled group folder there; then I return to the reference and repeat the 
> steps above.
> 
> This sounds a bit backwards, but I’ve never worked out how to create a new 
> group in advance and then find it when adding a new reference; so I just 
> stuck to this workflow.
> 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps and feel free to get back to me if I’ve been unclear or it 
> doesn’t work for you.
> 
> Luck
> 
>> On 7 May 2020, at 00:03, muhammad babar Shahzad  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Thanks for your response. I need to use the groups feature within the 
>> endnote. Because I have a number of references which I would like to 
>> organise in different groups for my convenience.
>> Again Thanks,
>> Muhammad Babar.
>> 
>>> On 5 May 2020, at 2:21 am, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use it a little to so can also try to help 
>>> 
 On 4 May 2020, at 10:53, Ian Harrison  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have been using it for my degree course and might be able to give some 
 sort of help.  If you want you can contact me off list at 
 ihcla...@gmail.com
 
 Happy to try and help but I am no expert at all.
 
 regards,
 Ian
 
> On 4 May 2020, at 00:03, muhammad babar Shahzad  
> wrote:
> 
> Friends,
> Is anyone using the endnote referencing software with Mac? I would be 
> thankful for any tips to use it.
> Thanks,
> Muhammad.
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Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

We have the Body.  I just weigh myself, the scale is connected through WiFi, so 
it logs my weight into the Cloud and as soon as I open the Health-Mate app the 
weight is visible.  I’ve set it so that the Health app can read from 
Health-Mate and that the Health-Mate app can write weight data to the Apple 
Health app, so much of the time I do my checking in the Apple Health app itself.

Later…


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Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2020, at 6:51 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> Hey that’s good news to hear that the app is usable. I was having a lot of 
> problems with it and even contacted with things and they had no solution. 
> Which scale do you have? I know they have several. I had the body plus.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 05:17, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Petrus,
>>  
>> Does the blind low vision nz have anything on their list of toys?
>>  
>> Or Amazon?
>> I have thought about getting one but never taken the time to look to deep.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:18 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
>>  
>> Hi ET,
>> Have you managed to find a bluetooth thermometer yet? I was surprised that 
>> there was nothing available in the Apple store given the health situation in 
>> the world at the moment. I do have a bluetooth  meet thermometer for 
>> cooking, but I’m certainly not going to use that on any part of my person. 
>> They do have a contactless  thermometer at my work that reads out  your 
>> tempiture out loud when it is pointed at you, but that one isn’t bluetooth 
>> and I’m not sure where they got it. 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/05/2020, at 12:55, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>>   This is s good a time as any to ask about this. Is there a good accurate 
>> device that works with the iPhone for monitoring one's temperature? 
>> "Accurate" is key here. Thanks.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
dialog with three items:
1. Power Off
2. Medical ID
3. Emergency SOS 

The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
iPhone 10 and 11 systems.

Jonathan


> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
> are spot on.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
>> home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the 
>> same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the 
>> “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with 
>> one finger.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> BRADFORD SNYDER
>> +1.214.893.8060
>> wb...@swbell.net 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
>> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Petrus,
>>> 
>>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
>>> version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
>>> restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
>>> unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
>>> forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
>>> get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
>>> nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Anders,
 The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
 bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
 volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
 followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
 Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
 usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
 time.
 
> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Aha! That might help me too.
> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
> Thanks Petrus for that.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>> ask for. 
>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
>> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
>> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
>> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
>> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
>> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
>> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
>> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
>> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
>> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
>> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
>> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
>> permissions. 
>> Sorry for the rant, 
>> Petrus 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>> 
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Re: A Cretical Hard disc problem, can i fix it?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

If you’re getting block or sector errors, then there is a physical problem with 
the hardware of the disk.  Basically, once this happens, the reliability of 
your data on that device is sketchy at best.  I guess you could try to create a 
partition where that block is ignored, but I still would not trust the 
integrity of the disk for use of anything important.

Sorry.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2020, at 5:49 AM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I have an External Harddisc 1 Tb, When i put on my mac machine, or windows, 
> it is not visible,
> 
> now on mac, i can see it in the disc utility, i run the 1st aid, and it was 
> successful, when i need to format it, format failed, and i got this error:
> Unable to write to the last block of the device. : (-69760)
> do not know what can i do, i tried mac extended journaled, X-fat etc, but no 
> hope.
> any help?
> 
> Thanks in advance 
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Re: Facetime on a mac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I don’t believe that that will work with FaceTime on the Mac.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 6, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> I double checked and the button is on for my mac. Another related question, 
> is it possible to answer the call with a 2 finger double
> tap on the trak pad?
> Marie LyonsSent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 9:26 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>   I thought she had done this already, but I might be mistaking her 
>> situation for another list Member or someone from another list entirely. I’m 
>> on way too many lists ….
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 5, 2020, at 11:27 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On your iPhone, go into Settings, Phone, and double-tap on item that reads 
>>> “Calls on other devices, When Nearby”.  A new screen should open and list 
>>> the devices that you can enable/disable.  Make sure that the Mac is 
>>> enabled.  It will read something like, “Marie’s Mac, On”.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 5, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Marie Lyons >>> > wrote:
 
 Hmm, when I figure it out I will let you know.  In the meantime I am 
 having Siri call him on Facetime. I’m not sure what setting that would be.
 
 Marie LyonsSent from my iPhone
 
> On May 5, 2020, at 10:28 PM, John Panarese  > wrote:
> 
>    That shouldn’t have mattered. I have my phone and watch nearby and my 
> Mac will also receive the FaceTime call. There has to be something off 
> with a setting or a small piece to the puzzle missing. 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
> 
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> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 5, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Marie Lyons > > wrote:
>> 
>> I continue working on this without success. I’ll tell you what happened 
>> this last time. I was sitting in front of my mac when the call came in 
>> nd it rang on both my phone and my watch but did not ring on the mac. No 
>> dialog box came up. I wondered if because I had my phone in my pocket 
>> and my watch on my wrist if that might have had something to do with it?
>> 
 On Apr 26, 2020, at 7:27 PM, John Panarese >>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are receiving a call, the VoiceOver focus normally goes to the 
>>> dialog and you can use the VO arrows to find the, accept, button. If 
>>> this is not the case, you should be able to command tab to the window 
>>> to respond.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 26, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Marie Lyons >>> > wrote:
 
 I heard the dialog box come up but it didn’t seem to have focus.  So 
 once it’s there then what do I do? Is there a keyboard command, or a 
 way to use the track pad?
 
 Marie LyonsSent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 25, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Jason White  > wrote:
> 
> There's a dialogue that prompts you to accept or decline the call. 
> It should receive focus when the call comes in.
> 
>> On 4/25/20 4:06 PM, Marie Lyons wrote:
>> I can’t figure out how to answer a Facetime call on my mac. Can 
>> anyone instruct me?
>> 
>> Marie LyonsSent from my iPhone
>> 
 
>>>

Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, that's the same screen I get on my iPhone X without a home button.

- Brad -

On May 7, 2020, at 11:11, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Hello,
On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
dialog with three items:
1. Power Off
2. Medical ID
3. Emergency SOS 

The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
iPhone 10 and 11 systems.

Jonathan


> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
> are spot on.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
>> home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the 
>> same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the 
>> “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with 
>> one finger.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> BRADFORD SNYDER
>> +1.214.893.8060
>> wb...@swbell.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
>> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Petrus,
>>> 
>>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
>>> version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
>>> restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
>>> unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
>>> forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
>>> get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
>>> nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
 
 Hi Anders,
 The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
 bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
 volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
 followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
 Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
 usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
 time.
 
> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Aha! That might help me too.
> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
> Thanks Petrus for that.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>> ask for. 
>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
>> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
>> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
>> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
>> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
>> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
>> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
>> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
>> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
>> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
>> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
>> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
>> permissions. 
>> Sorry for the rant, 
>> Petrus 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes, that’s the same screen I get on my XS and my wife’s XR.  I have had it on 
occasion though focus on the Emergency SOS button instead of the Power Off 
button.  I usually suggest that people flick left until they hit the wall or 
hear “Power Off” before double-tapping.  Don’t need to call emergency services 
by accident.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that's the same screen I get on my iPhone X without a home button.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 11:11, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
> dialog with three items:
> 1. Power Off
> 2. Medical ID
> 3. Emergency SOS 
> 
> The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
> iPhone 10 and 11 systems.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
>> are spot on.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
>>> home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the 
>>> same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the 
>>> “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with 
>>> one finger.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BRADFORD SNYDER
>>> +1.214.893.8060
>>> wb...@swbell.net 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
>>> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Petrus,
 
 I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
 ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can 
 mess with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
 version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
 restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
 unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
 forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
 get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
 nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
> bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
> volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
> followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
> Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
> usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
> time.
> 
>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Aha! That might help me too.
>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>>> ask for. 
>>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to 
>>> access my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or 
>>> something like that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head 
>>> between GPS  and bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a 
>>> huge drop in my battery life on my phone in the preceding days but 
>>> isn’t make the connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work 
>>> out why my battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery 
>>> health

what vnc are recommended that are opensource

[Rachel Phillips]

I have tried several mac vnc viewers   (turbo, realvnc, tiger) and all have 
issue with mix of issues:
mouse is not in the same place (calibrated?), parts of the screen are 
cutoff, always show the top however win10 menu bar is on right hand corner, 
in some cases the left hand side of screen is cut off.

what vnc are recommended that are opensource

if similar issues were you able to resolve?

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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
No i only have the power off and imergency thing.
/A

> 7 maj 2020 kl. 18:11 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> Hello,
> On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
> dialog with three items:
> 1. Power Off
> 2. Medical ID
> 3. Emergency SOS 
> 
> The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
> iPhone 10 and 11 systems.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
>> are spot on.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
>>> home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the 
>>> same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the 
>>> “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with 
>>> one finger.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BRADFORD SNYDER
>>> +1.214.893.8060
>>> wb...@swbell.net 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
>>> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Petrus,
 
 I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
 ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can 
 mess with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
 version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
 restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
 unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
 forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
 get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
 nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
> bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
> volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
> followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
> Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
> usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
> time.
> 
>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Aha! That might help me too.
>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>>> ask for. 
>>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to 
>>> access my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or 
>>> something like that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head 
>>> between GPS  and bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a 
>>> huge drop in my battery life on my phone in the preceding days but 
>>> isn’t make the connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work 
>>> out why my battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery 
>>> health and it was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, 
>>> the only change I made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went 
>>> into my settings and found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. 
>>> Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery life was back to 
>>> normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when they ask me to 
>>> give them access and permissions. 
>>> Sorry for the rant, 
>>> Petrus 
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Very Strange security problems appeared

[Ramy Moustafa]

 Still waiting any ideas

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر 
>  wrote:
> 
> so, what is the solution?
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 6:43 PM, dan d.  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I would venture a guess that clicking on the first message downloaded a 
>> malware item, maybe a web tracker.
>> The safari security on the mac is finding it and sending the message you 
>> mention.
>> 
>>> On Wed, 6 May 2020, Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> From about 2 weeks, i start Receiving strange notifications on My Iphone 
>>> and Mac,
>>> on Iphone , i got a screen like:
>>> The identity of Google.com  can not be verified, and it 
>>> asked me to press cancel or details, and when i press details, i found 
>>> another details, then a certificate details, and that is it,
>>> I got this screen for google, outlook 365, freedomscientific, and more. 
>>> what is it?
>>> On mac, when visiting a site from safari, i got a message:
>>> THis site is tried to steal your information, and this browsing is not 
>>> private, it did not allow  me to visit this site,
>>> Am afraid is someone is tring to steal my data or what?
>>> THnaks
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Sharing a Mac between a blind user and a sighted user

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
Is it possible to set up a Mac with 2 accounts, one for a blind user who needs 
VoiceOver always on and the other for a sighted user who wants VoiceOver always 
off.
Presumably VoiceOver would need to be on at logon time so that the blind user 
could enter the correct user name. If the blind user found that the sighted 
user was logged on could they do command+shift+q to log them off and get to the 
speaking logon screen? Do any listers share a Mac between sighted and blind 
users?
Many thanks for any tips.
Best wishes and keep well … Paul Hopewell

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Re: Sharing a Mac between a blind user and a sighted user

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes, this is very easily done.  You’d just need to go into System Preferences, 
Users & Groups and set up the additional account.  The additional account can 
be an Administrator or a Standard user.  Each user has access to all the 
applications, but has their own documents and data as well as being able to 
sign in with their own Apple ID if they wish.  All VoiceOver settings and 
application preferences are unique to each user.  Yes, you can press 
cmd-option-shift-q to log out of the other user if they are logged in, but if 
they have files open with unsaved changes, the keyboard command will bring up 
“Are You Sure” ddialogs and probable save dialogs.  You are, though, able to 
turn VO on if that user is logged in, save any files etc, turn VO off, then use 
the cmd-option-shift-q command to log out and bring yourself to the Login 
screen.

One snag that might arise would be due to security settings.  If the computer 
is set to lock the screen after a specific length of time, this might be 
triggered and it would then bring up the authentication window where the 
currently logged inn user is required to enter their password.  You would then 
need to either enter their password before you’d be able to log them out, or 
force shutdown the Mac.  The forced shutdown can be done, but certainly is not 
the best way of doing things.  It would be best to always log out after you’re 
done, or turn off that part of the security.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> Is it possible to set up a Mac with 2 accounts, one for a blind user who 
> needs VoiceOver always on and the other for a sighted user who wants 
> VoiceOver always off.
> Presumably VoiceOver would need to be on at logon time so that the blind user 
> could enter the correct user name. If the blind user found that the sighted 
> user was logged on could they do command+shift+q to log them off and get to 
> the speaking logon screen? Do any listers share a Mac between sighted and 
> blind users?
> Many thanks for any tips.
> Best wishes and keep well … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I’ll have to have a look later and see what is around. So far I’m getting my 
tempiture every day when I go to work anyway. But they do like to have a laugh 
and put the thing on Fahrenheit just to freak us out from time to time.

> On 7/05/2020, at 21:16, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Petrus,
>  
> Does the blind low vision nz have anything on their list of toys?
>  
> Or Amazon?
> I have thought about getting one but never taken the time to look to deep.
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
>  
> Hi ET,
> Have you managed to find a bluetooth thermometer yet? I was surprised that 
> there was nothing available in the Apple store given the health situation in 
> the world at the moment. I do have a bluetooth  meet thermometer for cooking, 
> but I’m certainly not going to use that on any part of my person. 
> They do have a contactless  thermometer at my work that reads out  your 
> tempiture out loud when it is pointed at you, but that one isn’t bluetooth 
> and I’m not sure where they got it. 
> 
> 
> On 5/05/2020, at 12:55, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
>   This is s good a time as any to ask about this. Is there a good accurate 
> device that works with the iPhone for monitoring one's temperature? 
> "Accurate" is key here. Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thanks Tim,
I’ll stop recommending that method to people unless it is a last resort and 
nothing else is working.

> On 7/05/2020, at 15:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your ipHone 
> is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess with 
> things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version.  
> Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go to 
> the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
>> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I 
>> do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>> 
>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
 for. 
 I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
 we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
 used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
 location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
 I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
 but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
 on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
 sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
 fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
 performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
 Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
 checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
 life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
 they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
 Sorry for the rant, 
 Petrus 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Anders,
What model phone you got again? How long is your battery lasting before you 
need to charge it up again, and what are you using your phone for during the 
day?

> On 7/05/2020, at 23:35, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> There were a few apps that had bluetooth Permission.
> Sdly it didn’t fix my battery issue.
> Guess i have to talk to some apple authorized technission.
> /A
> 
>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:10 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
>> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I 
>> do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>> 
>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
 for. 
 I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
 we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
 used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
 location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
 I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
 but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
 on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
 sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
 fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
 performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
 Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
 checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
 life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
 they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
 Sorry for the rant, 
 Petrus 
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Re: Syncronmizing passwords

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, I was going to start changing passwords, but decided to do a reboot and 
this time my new password was required to unlock File vault. So, I don't know 
what  happened. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 6, 2020, at 4:50 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Why did AD change your Jamf password?
>  
> I will assume through the central authentication as your machine is 
> authenticating through and Active Directory inferstructure.
>  
> Can you reset the password for Your FV account through users and groups under 
> system preferences?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2020 2:29 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Syncronmizing passwords
>  
> Hello,
> On my work computer, I recently changed my AD Password which then caused JAMF 
> to change my login and keychain passwords. But for some reason, the password 
> associated with File Vault at boot did not change. In the past, I had changed 
> the password using the JAMF Self Service app in the Menu Etras, but I was 
> lazy this time. How can I get FV password to be synced again with my Mac 
> password.
> Thanks!
> Jonathan Cohn
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Jonathan Cohn]

Then you might not have filled in basic health information in the health app. 
This might be useful for emergency workers if they find you unconscious and 
your iPhone is by your side. (Oh, and if you activate either the Health or 
Emergency SOS the face/finger print sensors should be deactivated.
, 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 7, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> No i only have the power off and imergency thing.
> /A
> 
>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 18:11 skrev Jonathan Cohn > >:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
>> dialog with three items:
>> 1. Power Off
>> 2. Medical ID
>> 3. Emergency SOS 
>> 
>> The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with 
>> the iPhone 10 and 11 systems.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
>>> are spot on.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
 home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at 
 the same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then 
 find the “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double 
 tap with one finger.
 
 HTH
 
 
 BRADFORD SNYDER
 +1.214.893.8060
 wb...@swbell.net 
 
 
 
 On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
 the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can 
> mess with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
> version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
> restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
> unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
> forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
> get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
> nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
>> bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
>> volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
>> followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
>> Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
>> usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time 
>> to time.
>> 
>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
 ask for. 
 I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
 when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
 hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to 
 access my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or 
 something like that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head 
 between GPS  and bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed 
 a huge drop in my battery life on my phone in the preceding days but 
 isn’t make the connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to 
 work out why my battery was draining so fast and I even checked my

Re: Very Strange security problems appeared

[PRAMIT BHARGAVA]

Hi Ramy,

On both the Mac and iPhone, make sure that date and time is correct.

Now on iPhone navigate to Settings > Passwords & Accounts > Select Gmail >
Select Account (at the top) > Advanced > Under "Incoming Settings"  Turn
OFF "Use SSL" and then Turn it back ON.

Also, clear the browser history of your safari browser on Mac and log in to
Google Account and from Security turn On "less secured app access".

This will sort the issue that you're currently facing.

Hope this helps

Pramit

‪On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM ‫Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر‬‎ <
ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:‬

> Hi all:
>
> From about 2 weeks, i start Receiving strange notifications on My Iphone
> and Mac,
> on Iphone , i got a screen like:
> The identity of Google.com can not be verified, and it asked me to press
> cancel or details, and when i press details, i found another details, then
> a certificate details, and that is it,
> I got this screen for google, outlook 365, freedomscientific, and more.
> what is it?
> On mac, when visiting a site from safari, i got a message:
> THis site is tried to steal your information, and this browsing is not
> private, it did not allow  me to visit this site,
> Am afraid is someone is tring to steal my data or what?
> THnaks
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RE: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Jessica,

Yeah difficult one.

I’d contact the teacher and get a list of what is meant to be getting worked on 
and if they can provide access to the same services that your daughter is using 
and that way you can see what work is there and question her on what she is 
working on so that you know what the work load is and type of work as well.

Good luck.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 11:30 PM
To: 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

That’s something I unfortunately can’t afford to invest in right now, and 
something needs to be. Done soon sense Hannah’s grades are really low,  and she 
has a tendency to lie and say she’s. Doing her work, and sense not all lessons 
are live, and therefore not auditory, I need to know exactly what’s on her 
screen VS what she claims to be doing.


On May 7, 2020, at 4:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Is it going to far to set up a web cam with mic so you can watch / hear what 
the kids are doing while studying?

I’ve seen this done with Microsoft  certification tests, where they basically 
video watch you while your sitting the online exam,

This was a few years ago now but it was a serviceable option at the time.
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 3:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

Hi,

You might wish to look at Chrome Remote Desktop.  It’s an extension you can use 
with Chrome that may work for you.  I’m not sure of how well things will work 
from an observation point of view, as most “remote-in” solutions are not 
particularly screen reader friendly with respect to reading the others screen 
contents.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada



On May 6, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Jessica Moss 
mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I never thought I’d be needing to do this, however, I’ve been getting messages 
from Hannah’s teacher stating that she’s not turning in work/checking in on 
Microsoft Teams.  I’ve finally just made her. Come out of. Her room to do her 
work, but would like to know how I can view exactly what’s up on her. Screen, 
and know that she’s not just sitting their listening to music with her 
headphones on, and unfortunately, constantly hovering over her to make sure 
she’s doing it isn’t always going to be an option, for multiple reasons, one of 
them being, that not all of her lessons are auditory.  Has anyone ever done 
this, and if so, what’s involved in getting it set up?

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