RE: messages in IOS 13

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi donna,

No sorry my speak screen is already off.

Guess for me it’s something else.

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2020 3:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: messages in IOS 13

Simon and Kawal,

Paul's suggestion to turn off Speak Screen fixed the problem for me. Here is 
the text from his message again:
Can you see if you have Speak Screen enabled?
This can be found under Settings, Accessibility, spoken content, Speak screen.
If it is enabled, disable it and let us know if that helps any.
Best,
Donna


On Mar 17, 2020, at 9:09 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Yep Donna, I hate it and I have an I phone 10.  It’s annoying.

Kawal.


On 16 Mar 2020, at 21:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

So if you tap to open a message thread, that is the only thread you see on the 
screen?
Thanks,
Donna



On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Anders Holmberg 
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
I have the XR and it hasn’t got the homey.
I never have this issue.
/A


16 mars 2020 kl. 20:19 skrev Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>:

Yeah, I thought you were asking about the iPad as well, as I’ve never met this 
problem on my iPhone before either. But then I have the 8+ so the screen layout 
might be different without the home key.


On 17/03/2020, at 05:53, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

No, it's on my iPhone 11.
Cheers,
Donna



On Mar 16, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Anders Holmberg 
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:


Hi!
Is this on the Ipad?
If so the messages that’s not in focus  are more to the left of the screen.
Once a  message is opened its on the right of the screen.
Hope this makes sense.
/A

16 mars 2020 kl. 16:30 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:

Hi all,

One thing I really hate about Messages in IOS 13 is that even after selecting 
and opening a message thread, all your other message threads are still 
displayed on the screen. That makes the screen so cluttered that often I'm 
unable to find the text field for the thread to which I'm trying to respond. 
Does anyone know if there's a setting that can be adjusted so that when you 
open a thread, that's the only thread on the screen? I've looked, but haven't 
found one.
Cheers,
Donna

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RE: Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah petrus,

I think that is what jonathan mosem was working with a couple of years ago
Wellington airport might have it working around their terminals.

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Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2020 2:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

Aira is available in New Zealand. Just download the Aira iOS app, setup an 
account and you are good to go.
You may use my email address as a referral and get yourself 30 free minutes.

Brad
wb...@swbell.net


On Mar 17, 2020, at 20:18, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’m not a student or Teacher, but is this only available in the US OR OTHER 
COUNTRIES AS WELL?


On 18/03/2020, at 14:15, Eric Caron 
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Hi listers,

I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as it 
would be very helpful to current blind college students.

I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they 
are also learning fast how to run on line teaching.

Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls be 
sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.

Here is the part of the post for college students.

Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
blind person with tasks.

I am posting part of a email message below that offers free 
service to blind college students for the rest of the semester.

If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to blind 
teachers as well!

One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.

They also now easily screen share on the Mac and iPhone.

Eric Caron

Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira
We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
learning.  We’ve heard that some materials and software being used are 
inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for the 
remainder of the spring semester ending in May 2020.  If you know of a student 
who could benefit from Aira for their distance learning, please email 
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RE: Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

[Simon A Fogarty]

Why is it his loss?



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2020 3:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

OK, its your loss if you choose not to check it out.

- Brad -

On Mar 17, 2020, at 21:00, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you, but I don’t think I would use it. I was just curious.
Sent from Petrus's iPhone


On 18/03/2020, at 14:40, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
Aira is available in New Zealand. Just download the Aira iOS app, setup an 
account and you are good to go.
You may use my email address as a referral and get yourself 30 free minutes.

Brad
wb...@swbell.net


On Mar 17, 2020, at 20:18, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’m not a student or Teacher, but is this only available in the US OR OTHER 
COUNTRIES AS WELL?


On 18/03/2020, at 14:15, Eric Caron 
mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:




Hi listers,

I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as it 
would be very helpful to current blind college students.

I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they 
are also learning fast how to run on line teaching.

Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls be 
sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.

Here is the part of the post for college students.

Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
blind person with tasks.

I am posting part of a email message below that offers free 
service to blind college students for the rest of the semester.

If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to blind 
teachers as well!

One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.

They also now easily screen share on the Mac and iPhone.

Eric Caron

Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira
We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
learning.  We’ve heard that some materials and software being used are 
inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for the 
remainder of the spring semester ending in May 2020.  If you know of a student 
who could benefit from Aira for their distance learning, please email 
supp...@aira.io for more information


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Google meet.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
On my Bible class we’re supposed to use google meet now when the Corona is on 
going.
However when i start the app the speech goes muffled and sounds like if  i have 
it in  an earpeice.
I haven’t tried if audio routing would work but i doubt thatt.
It did not help to turn on and off VoiceOver.
So i guess i have to use headphones..
But if anyone has used it please let me know if you have  any other sollutions.
/A

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Re: messages in IOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Simon,

I’m sorry to hear that. It really was such a relief to lose all that clutter on 
the screen. Good luck!
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 18, 2020, at 3:36 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi donna,
>  
> No sorry my speak screen is already off.
>  
> Guess for me it’s something else.
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2020 3:19 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: messages in IOS 13
>  
> Simon and Kawal,
>  
> Paul's suggestion to turn off Speak Screen fixed the problem for me. Here is 
> the text from his message again:
> Can you see if you have Speak Screen enabled?
> This can be found under Settings, Accessibility, spoken content, Speak screen.
> If it is enabled, disable it and let us know if that helps any. 
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> 
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 9:09 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>  
> Yep Donna, I hate it and I have an I phone 10.  It’s annoying.
>  
> Kawal.
> 
> 
> On 16 Mar 2020, at 21:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>  
> So if you tap to open a message thread, that is the only thread you see on 
> the screen?
> Thanks,
> Donna
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>  
> Hi!
> I have the XR and it hasn’t got the homey.
> I never have this issue.
> /A
> 
> 
> 16 mars 2020 kl. 20:19 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
>  
> Yeah, I thought you were asking about the iPad as well, as I’ve never met 
> this problem on my iPhone before either. But then I have the 8+ so the screen 
> layout might be different without the home key. 
> 
> 
> On 17/03/2020, at 05:53, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>  
> No, it's on my iPhone 11.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi!
> Is this on the Ipad?
> If so the messages that’s not in focus  are more to the left of the screen.
> Once a  message is opened its on the right of the screen.
> Hope this makes sense.
> /A
> 
> 16 mars 2020 kl. 16:30 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> One thing I really hate about Messages in IOS 13 is that even after selecting 
> and opening a message thread, all your other message threads are still 
> displayed on the screen. That makes the screen so cluttered that often I'm 
> unable to find the text field for the thread to which I'm trying to respond. 
> Does anyone know if there's a setting that can be adjusted so that when you 
> open a thread, that's the only thread on the screen? I've looked, but haven't 
> found one.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Google meet.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Are you using on your Mac, or on iOS/iPadOS?  If on iOS or iPadOS, there is a 
Meet app that may work better for you.  I've used Meet numerous times in the 
past, but not for about six months or so now.  I never had those sorts of 
issues although I wouldn't refute your claims.

Later,


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 18, 2020, at 02:49, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
On my Bible class we’re supposed to use google meet now when the Corona is on 
going.
However when i start the app the speech goes muffled and sounds like if  i have 
it in  an earpeice.
I haven’t tried if audio routing would work but i doubt thatt.
It did not help to turn on and off VoiceOver.
So i guess i have to use headphones..
But if anyone has used it please let me know if you have  any other sollutions.
/A

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Re: Battery status on the Ipad mini.

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   What that means is the battery is being charged even at 100%. Its 
called trickle charge. Voiceover reads the icons that sighted folks see.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/17/2020 8:01 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
How does sighted see when the battery is charging on the Ipad?
FOr us  VoiceOver announces charging after the battery status.
And when its finished charging it sais on ac power.
My iPad mini shows charging all the time  even though its on 100%.
So i am not sure what that means?
/A



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Question regarding VoiceOver hotspots

[Paul Parravano]

Hello,

I just began using Catalina and am finding a problem with VoiceOver hotspots. I 
use a hotspot in Apple Mail to quickly get to the search field. I can save the 
hotspot to the zero key, used with the VO key, but the hotspot is not saved. 
When I leave mail or shut down my Mac, the hotspot goes away. I tried this in 
Safari and did not have the same problem. Never had this issue in prior MacOS 
versions.

Any suggestions on how to save this permanently would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Paul




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Hard Drive Buffering

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I can get my hands on an extender I could see if that helps or not, but 
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Re: Hard Drive Buffering

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Hi,

On an internal network, this really shouldn't be an issue.  Are you still using 
an Apple TV 3?  If so, that might be part of the issue.  My son still uses an 
Apple TV 3 as well and finds that his media loads rather slowly compared to my 
Apple TV 4 HD.  It may have to do with processing speed within the devices.

Later...


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On Mar 18, 2020, at 09:24, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  My iTunes library is on an external drive. Suppose that instead of the wi-fi, 
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on an extender I could see if that helps or not, but have not found one yet.

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Re: Hard Drive Buffering

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   Ues still using the 3rd. I just got a 4k but find I need to get used 
to the touch panel on the Siri remote. And the layout too is different. 
I should set some time aside to work this out.


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Hi,

On an internal network, this really shouldn't be an issue.  Are you 
still using an Apple TV 3?  If so, that might be part of the issue.  My 
son still uses an Apple TV 3 as well and finds that his media loads 
rather slowly compared to my Apple TV 4 HD.  It may have to do with 
processing speed within the devices.


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   My iTunes library is on an external drive. Suppose that instead of 
the wi-fi, it is the drive? Is there a way to test this out and see? If 
I can get my hands on an extender I could see if that helps or not, but 
have not found one yet.


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Re: Question regarding VoiceOver hotspots

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You do realize, I hope, that almost all search fields on the Macintosh are 
reachable via either command-f or  command-Option-F. command-F can be used to 
search a mail message for content, and command-option-F puts you in the mailbox 
search field. And of course there is also the Voiceover search abilities but 
that won’t help you find a message from E. F. Hutton.

Jonathan C. Cohn
  

> On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Paul Parravano  wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> I just began using Catalina and am finding a problem with VoiceOver hotspots. 
> I use a hotspot in Apple Mail to quickly get to the search field. I can save 
> the hotspot to the zero key, used with the VO key, but the hotspot is not 
> saved. When I leave mail or shut down my Mac, the hotspot goes away. I tried 
> this in Safari and did not have the same problem. Never had this issue in 
> prior MacOS versions.
> 
> Any suggestions on how to save this permanently would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
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Re: Google meet.

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Hi!
I use the meet app on my Ipad mini.
SO that’s strange.
/A

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> Are you using on your Mac, or on iOS/iPadOS?  If on iOS or iPadOS, there is a 
> Meet app that may work better for you.  I've used Meet numerous times in the 
> past, but not for about six months or so now.  I never had those sorts of 
> issues although I wouldn't refute your claims.
> 
> Later,
> 
> 
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> On Mar 18, 2020, at 02:49, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
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> Hi!
> On my Bible class we’re supposed to use google meet now when the Corona is on 
> going.
> However when i start the app the speech goes muffled and sounds like if  i 
> have it in  an earpeice.
> I haven’t tried if audio routing would work but i doubt thatt.
> It did not help to turn on and off VoiceOver.
> So i guess i have to use headphones..
> But if anyone has used it please let me know if you have  any other 
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Re: Google meet.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I just used Meet today.  With all our schools closed, I had to do things 
differently.  I did use headphones, so can tell you how it would have been 
without.  I used headphones to minimize noise, not for any other reason.  I'll 
try to remember to try it without headphones next time and update you.

Later...


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On Mar 18, 2020, at 13:16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I use the meet app on my Ipad mini.
SO that’s strange.
/A

> 18 mars 2020 kl. 15:31 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Meet app that may work better for you.  I've used Meet numerous times in the 
> past, but not for about six months or so now.  I never had those sorts of 
> issues although I wouldn't refute your claims.
> 
> Later,
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 18, 2020, at 02:49, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> On my Bible class we’re supposed to use google meet now when the Corona is on 
> going.
> However when i start the app the speech goes muffled and sounds like if  i 
> have it in  an earpeice.
> I haven’t tried if audio routing would work but i doubt thatt.
> It did not help to turn on and off VoiceOver.
> So i guess i have to use headphones..
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> /A
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