Re: OT: Airport extreme as extension to existing network

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Sabahattin,

Thank you for this advice.  As you rightly point out the last thing I want is 
to slow down my network.  The reason I purchased Netgear Nighthawk was in order 
to improve the performance of my network.  As the number of devices/computers 
has increased in my home over the last few years, I have noticed AirPort 
Extreme dropping connections a lot and it became a nuisance.  Whilst it still 
works I thought I’d try something more modern and Nighthawk seemed like a very 
good and affordable proposition.  I did however forget the compatibility 
problems with Apple products.  interestingly, I managed to configure my Airport 
Express to join the new Netgear as main router network in bridge mode, which 
allows me to stream music to my Sonos using Airfoil app so that’s good so far.  
I failed entirely with AirPort Extreme 6th generation.  I even worked with an 
Apple support chap and he wasn’t able to make it work either.  Ethernet is not 
an option for me as, well, you know people you live with are a bit fussy and to 
be honest I’d need meters of ethernet cable to achieve what I want.  But I did 
manage to configure the older AirPort Extreme 5th generation to join my wifi 
network as Bridge which allows me at least to use my usb printer connected to 
it remotely.  What I have lost - and it is annoying - is the use of my WD My 
Cloud network drive which used to be attached to AirPort Extreme 5th generation 
ethernet port and now of course my mac doesn’t see it.

You mentioned getting possibly a different extender.  Would you have a 
suggestion as to what I might need in order to use a usb printer, a couple of 
usb external drives and WD my Cloud in order for these to work and be 
recognizable by my mac?  Would it make sense to get a Netgear extender?  I’m 
very unschooled in computer language, and although I’ve learnt an awful lot 
using macs and getting into trouble for years, I’m still very very amateurish.  
So I’d welcome any suggestions for a wifi extender with usb and ethernet ports 
that would play nicely with Netgear Nighthawk.  By the way, mine is Nighthawk 
x6 r8000.  The Netgear genie is not accessible with voiceover but the web 
interface works.

Thanks again and forgive my rather non-technical language.

Andrew

> On 4 Feb 2020, at 20:13, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> Unfortunately, the answer is, “I’m sorry Andrew, I’m afraid I can’t do that.”
> 
> The problem is that the AirPort Express supports the STA (station) proxy 
> mode, wherein each Ethernet and Wi-Fi device connected to the extension is 
> proxied to your existing network as a Wi-Fi station itself. This is how most 
> “repeater” products still work. It’s particularly awesome when you’ve got an 
> Ethernet-only device and want it talking to your wireless network.
> 
> The Time Capsule and Extreme never had this functionality. Instead, you use 
> WDS (Wireless Distribution System) if you want a wireless backbone. That 
> requires support from both sides of the bridge, but worse, it impairs 
> performance for anybody connected to the extender, by exactly half for every 
> traversal through a bridge.
> 
> If you can get your Netgear to use WDS, that’s the way. Otherwise you’ll have 
> to use an Ethernet backbone or purchase a different extender. Sorry about 
> that.  Ethernet is always preferable, of course, but it’s not always 
> practical.
> 
> The way that you get to the setup mode of the Extreme is to reset it. When 
> you join the network either on macOS or in iOS, you’ll get a special 
> AirPort-specific setup regime.
> 
> I will miss my AirPort product when it finally dies. But I think I’ll be 
> moving to Netgear’s Nighthawk for a simple base station arrangement in the 
> traditional style. The Time Capsule is rendered obsolete as soon as the 
> internal hard disk dies, and that’s already happened to me once. Time to move 
> on, I fancy, and remember the good times.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
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Setting beginning and end points

[hemakarah]

Hi all,

I use Word on my Mac. I like to place beginning and end marks so that I can 
copy the body of text in between. Is there a method to do that? Also,, I will 
be grateful for some guidance on using email.

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Mac equivalent of JAWS Find Next?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

One thing I like about JAWS is the ability to initiate a JAWS find, and then 
search for all subsequent occurrences of that text using F3. Is there some 
equivalent of that for Mac/Voiceover?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Mac equivalent of JAWS Find Next?

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
Yes there is. The command is VoiceOver plus G for find next and VoiceOver plus 
shift plus g to find previous.

Greg Wocher


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> One thing I like about JAWS is the ability to initiate a JAWS find, and then 
> search for all subsequent occurrences of that text using F3. Is there some 
> equivalent of that for Mac/Voiceover?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Mac equivalent of JAWS Find Next?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, that's great! Thank you!
Donna


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Yes there is. The command is VoiceOver plus G for find next and VoiceOver 
> plus shift plus g to find previous.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> One thing I like about JAWS is the ability to initiate a JAWS find, and then 
>> search for all subsequent occurrences of that text using F3. Is there some 
>> equivalent of that for Mac/Voiceover?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Playing Media Attached to Keynote Presentations

[Steve Matzura]

How exactly does this work? Can a slide be displayed without triggering 
playback of attached media? If yes, how is media playback/replay

triggered?

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Re: Mac equivalent of JAWS Find Next?

[Pete De Vasto]

Donna,

Slight modification to the find instructions: To do the initial find, you do VO 
+ F, then subsequent next and previous finds are done using VO + G and VO + 
Shift plus g. The one thing about this that gets me is that sometimes I forget 
about the find next and previous, and, unlike the JAWS find, VO + F does not 
retain the item you last tried to find. But it still does work and I use it all 
the time.

Pete

> On Feb 5, 2020, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Oh, that's great! Thank you!
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Yes there is. The command is VoiceOver plus G for find next and VoiceOver 
>> plus shift plus g to find previous.
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> One thing I like about JAWS is the ability to initiate a JAWS find, and 
>>> then search for all subsequent occurrences of that text using F3. Is there 
>>> some equivalent of that for Mac/Voiceover?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Mac equivalent of JAWS Find Next?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Pete. I've used VO-F, and I agree, it would be nice if it remembered 
your last search term. But at least now I have the VO-G and VO-Shift G to rely 
on.  thank you for this info.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> 
> Slight modification to the find instructions: To do the initial find, you do 
> VO + F, then subsequent next and previous finds are done using VO + G and VO 
> + Shift plus g. The one thing about this that gets me is that sometimes I 
> forget about the find next and previous, and, unlike the JAWS find, VO + F 
> does not retain the item you last tried to find. But it still does work and I 
> use it all the time.
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, that's great! Thank you!
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Yes there is. The command is VoiceOver plus G for find next and VoiceOver 
>>> plus shift plus g to find previous.
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 One thing I like about JAWS is the ability to initiate a JAWS find, and 
 then search for all subsequent occurrences of that text using F3. Is there 
 some equivalent of that for Mac/Voiceover?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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Re: Mac equivalent of JAWS Find Next?

[David G. Carlson via iPhone]

There is a history for the last several searches. 

Dave
Woodworker, engineer, musician, Oregonian, and pioneer


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 

Thanks, Pete. I've used VO-F, and I agree, it would be nice if it remembered 
your last search term. But at least now I have the VO-G and VO-Shift G to rely 
on.  thank you for this info.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> 
> Slight modification to the find instructions: To do the initial find, you do 
> VO + F, then subsequent next and previous finds are done using VO + G and VO 
> + Shift plus g. The one thing about this that gets me is that sometimes I 
> forget about the find next and previous, and, unlike the JAWS find, VO + F 
> does not retain the item you last tried to find. But it still does work and I 
> use it all the time.
> 
> Pete
> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, that's great! Thank you!
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Yes there is. The command is VoiceOver plus G for find next and VoiceOver 
>>> plus shift plus g to find previous.
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 One thing I like about JAWS is the ability to initiate a JAWS find, and 
 then search for all subsequent occurrences of that text using F3. Is there 
 some equivalent of that for Mac/Voiceover?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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Re: Possible Switch To VarioUltra Braille Display

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I did the oposit so i switched from VarioUltra to Actilino.
There were at that point  no other sollution for me.
However it seems the Ultra is back.
But i never regret the change.
/A

> 4 feb. 2020 kl. 01:14 skrev Pete De Vasto :
> 
> Hi, I’m thinking to switch from my Actilino to the VarioUltra 20 Braille 
> display. That display has come up on this list before, but of course I didn’t 
> follow the threads. I’d love to hear from folks who have an Ultra with 
> thoughts about how it works with both Mac and iOS devices. I’ve read some 
> good things about it, but I’m also having trouble figuring out if the display 
> is even still available.
> 
> I apologize as this may be a bit off topic, but I’m not sure where else to go 
> for info at this point.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: OT: Airport extreme as extension to existing network

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It may be that your new router has the latest wifi standard and the Airport may 
not work with that.
It might be something to look into.
/A

> 4 feb. 2020 kl. 18:22 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Yes, Tim, that’s what I’ve been doing.  But with airport extreme 6th 
> generation whenever I choose “add to existing network” & press next button, 
> it wants to create a new wifi network anyway.  I had a chat with an apple 
> support chap earlier on this morning but he couldn’t find a way and told me 
> netgear nighthawk might not be compatible with Apple AE and suggested I could 
> only do it via wired ethernet option, which defeats the object for me.  
> However, I did experiment a bit and connected AE to my router via ethernet, 
> set it up to extend network in this way and then tried to. edit the settings 
> in the wireless tab to extend the existing network (no join existing network 
> was available).  So far so good. But when I updated the settings and AE 
> restarted, I got an error message that the station couldn’t join the wifi 
> network specified and that’s that.  So I’m stuffed.  I may have to phone the 
> shop and ask whether I can return the netgear.  I’m a bit sad because it is a 
> good fast router, and I think it performs better on wifi than my extreme.  
> Why is Apple so difficult compatibility wise with other products.  It’s 
> ridiculous.  A wireless station like an AE should be able to join an existing 
> wifi. What’s the problem?  Thanks, Tim, I suppose it’s the end of the road.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 4 Feb 2020, at 15:41, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Did you set the Airport to factory defaults?  If yes, then when you first 
>> open Airport Utility, VO-space on "Other WiFi Devices", then select the 
>> Extreme from there, instead of pressing the "Next" button, press the "Other 
>> Options" button.  Select the item that says something about adding your 
>> device to an existing network.  I suggest you choose "to "Join" as opposed 
>> to "Extend".  That seems to be as granular as it can go now, but after you 
>> set it up, you can then go in and get more detailed in your settings.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 02:55, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> It’s curious.  In earlier versions of airport utility, there was an option 
>> to set things up manually.  Now this option doesn’t seem to exist.  Any 
>> other ideas?
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 3 Feb 2020, at 19:01, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is there an option in the setup to set up manually, or "Other"?   I seem to 
>>> recall that working better when you wish to do things a little different 
>>> than the normal methods.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2020, at 11:29, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I’m in a dreadful quandary.  I’ve managed to setup my new Netgear X6 R8000 
>>> router successfully using web interface.  However, I’ve hit a problem in 
>>> that I am not able to setup my old (6 gen) airport extreme to join the 
>>> existing network.  I can see the airport extreme in airport utility and I 
>>> start setting it up but it defaults to wanting to create a new network 
>>> whenever I choose the option to add to existing network.  I don’t 
>>> understand why.  Any clues?  It’s so frustrating.  I should be able to do 
>>> so.  I’ve managed to add airport express to the existing network with 
>>> netgear as main router but extreme refuses to give me this option.
>>> 
>>> many thanks
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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Re: OT: Airport extreme as extension to existing network

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Just a little clarification here.  The problems you were having are not 
specifically due to Apple incompatibilities.  As Sabahattin mentioned, the 
Express has specific features that allow it to be a "repeater".  The Extreme, 
and many other home routers are not meant to be repeaters, but more like the 
centre of your network.   Using WDS, you can chain networks, but performance is 
negatively impacted.  WDS is not specifically an Apple feature, but it is a 
feature that is not really used often anymore.  You may have had similar issues 
if you had had a Linksys router instead of an Extreme.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 5, 2020, at 01:49, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Sabahattin,

Thank you for this advice.  As you rightly point out the last thing I want is 
to slow down my network.  The reason I purchased Netgear Nighthawk was in order 
to improve the performance of my network.  As the number of devices/computers 
has increased in my home over the last few years, I have noticed AirPort 
Extreme dropping connections a lot and it became a nuisance.  Whilst it still 
works I thought I’d try something more modern and Nighthawk seemed like a very 
good and affordable proposition.  I did however forget the compatibility 
problems with Apple products.  interestingly, I managed to configure my Airport 
Express to join the new Netgear as main router network in bridge mode, which 
allows me to stream music to my Sonos using Airfoil app so that’s good so far.  
I failed entirely with AirPort Extreme 6th generation.  I even worked with an 
Apple support chap and he wasn’t able to make it work either.  Ethernet is not 
an option for me as, well, you know people you live with are a bit fussy and to 
be honest I’d need meters of ethernet cable to achieve what I want.  But I did 
manage to configure the older AirPort Extreme 5th generation to join my wifi 
network as Bridge which allows me at least to use my usb printer connected to 
it remotely.  What I have lost - and it is annoying - is the use of my WD My 
Cloud network drive which used to be attached to AirPort Extreme 5th generation 
ethernet port and now of course my mac doesn’t see it.

You mentioned getting possibly a different extender.  Would you have a 
suggestion as to what I might need in order to use a usb printer, a couple of 
usb external drives and WD my Cloud in order for these to work and be 
recognizable by my mac?  Would it make sense to get a Netgear extender?  I’m 
very unschooled in computer language, and although I’ve learnt an awful lot 
using macs and getting into trouble for years, I’m still very very amateurish.  
So I’d welcome any suggestions for a wifi extender with usb and ethernet ports 
that would play nicely with Netgear Nighthawk.  By the way, mine is Nighthawk 
x6 r8000.  The Netgear genie is not accessible with voiceover but the web 
interface works.

Thanks again and forgive my rather non-technical language.

Andrew

> On 4 Feb 2020, at 20:13, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, the answer is, “I’m sorry Andrew, I’m afraid I can’t do that.”
> 
> The problem is that the AirPort Express supports the STA (station) proxy 
> mode, wherein each Ethernet and Wi-Fi device connected to the extension is 
> proxied to your existing network as a Wi-Fi station itself. This is how most 
> “repeater” products still work. It’s particularly awesome when you’ve got an 
> Ethernet-only device and want it talking to your wireless network.
> 
> The Time Capsule and Extreme never had this functionality. Instead, you use 
> WDS (Wireless Distribution System) if you want a wireless backbone. That 
> requires support from both sides of the bridge, but worse, it impairs 
> performance for anybody connected to the extender, by exactly half for every 
> traversal through a bridge.
> 
> If you can get your Netgear to use WDS, that’s the way. Otherwise you’ll have 
> to use an Ethernet backbone or purchase a different extender. Sorry about 
> that.  Ethernet is always preferable, of course, but it’s not always 
> practical.
> 
> The way that you get to the setup mode of the Extreme is to reset it. When 
> you join the network either on macOS or in iOS, you’ll get a special 
> AirPort-specific setup regime.
> 
> I will miss my AirPort product when it finally dies. But I think I’ll be 
> moving to Netgear’s Nighthawk for a simple base station arrangement in the 
> traditional style. The Time Capsule is rendered obsolete as soon as the 
> internal hard disk dies, and that’s already happened to me once. Time to move 
> on, I fancy, and remember the good times.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
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Re: Mac equivalent of JAWS Find Next?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

After you press VO-f, just use up arrow to find previous search terms.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 5, 2020, at 11:15, David G. Carlson via iPhone  
wrote:

There is a history for the last several searches. 

Dave
Woodworker, engineer, musician, Oregonian, and pioneer


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 

Thanks, Pete. I've used VO-F, and I agree, it would be nice if it remembered 
your last search term. But at least now I have the VO-G and VO-Shift G to rely 
on.  thank you for this info.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> 
> Slight modification to the find instructions: To do the initial find, you do 
> VO + F, then subsequent next and previous finds are done using VO + G and VO 
> + Shift plus g. The one thing about this that gets me is that sometimes I 
> forget about the find next and previous, and, unlike the JAWS find, VO + F 
> does not retain the item you last tried to find. But it still does work and I 
> use it all the time.
> 
> Pete
> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, that's great! Thank you!
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Yes there is. The command is VoiceOver plus G for find next and VoiceOver 
>>> plus shift plus g to find previous.
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 One thing I like about JAWS is the ability to initiate a JAWS find, and 
 then search for all subsequent occurrences of that text using F3. Is there 
 some equivalent of that for Mac/Voiceover?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: Mac equivalent of JAWS Find Next?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Tim.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 1:52 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> After you press VO-f, just use up arrow to find previous search terms.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 5, 2020, at 11:15, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
> mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
> 
> There is a history for the last several searches. 
> 
> Dave
> Woodworker, engineer, musician, Oregonian, and pioneer
> 
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> Thanks, Pete. I've used VO-F, and I agree, it would be nice if it remembered 
> your last search term. But at least now I have the VO-G and VO-Shift G to 
> rely on.  thank you for this info.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Pete De Vasto > > wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> Slight modification to the find instructions: To do the initial find, you do 
>> VO + F, then subsequent next and previous finds are done using VO + G and VO 
>> + Shift plus g. The one thing about this that gets me is that sometimes I 
>> forget about the find next and previous, and, unlike the JAWS find, VO + F 
>> does not retain the item you last tried to find. But it still does work and 
>> I use it all the time.
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
 On Feb 5, 2020, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, that's great! Thank you!
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Greg Wocher >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Yes there is. The command is VoiceOver plus G for find next and VoiceOver 
 plus shift plus g to find previous.
 
 Greg Wocher
 
 
> On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> One thing I like about JAWS is the ability to initiate a JAWS find, and 
> then search for all subsequent occurrences of that text using F3. Is 
> there some equivalent of that for Mac/Voiceover?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
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Re: Possible Switch To VarioUltra Braille Display

[alia robinson]

me either, I love my actilino. wouldn’t go back if I could. VU had its chance 
with me, too many repair issues for my liking.

On Feb 5, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I did the oposit so i switched from VarioUltra to Actilino.
There were at that point  no other sollution for me.
However it seems the Ultra is back.
But i never regret the change.
/A

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Re: using email tips

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
One of the easiest ways to attach a file to an email is to find it in your 
finder,  copy it to the clipboard, and paste it into the message body of the 
email. 
I hope that helps. 
Aleeha 

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 11:53 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
>  
> I am still figuring out how to use email on Mac. I will be grateful if 
> someone could help me know the following:
> 1 important keystrokes for navigating between the fields on email
> 2 Keystrokes for mail composition
> And 3 easy way for attaching files.
>  
> Take care,
> Hem.
>  
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Vmware Fusion with Linux machines

[Tom Moore]

Hi guys,

Has anyone had any problems with the stability of Linux machines after Debian 8 
and Centos 6 as far as Speakup goes in Vmware fusion 11 and 11.5?

This has been an issue that I’ve seen for quite some time, and it is now really 
starting to becoming annoying with newer versions of Linux?

If I use Linux version with out Speakup everything runs just fine.

For the time being what I do is run Debian 8 with Speakup and then ssh into the 
other Linux machines I need to use.

Using Debian 8 as my work station machine isn’t something I’d like to do much 
longer unless I have too!

 

Thanks for any tips you guys might have…

 

Tom

 

 

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Re: Vmware Fusion with Linux machines

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Have you tried Fenrir as your screen reader on the Linux machines?

https://linux-a11y.org/index.php?page=fenrir-screenreader

 

There was recently a mailing list discussion of the dependencies that had to be 
installed to run it under Debian. There’s already an Arch Linux package in the 
Arch User Repository. I don’t know the status on other distributions. Once it’s 
running, though, it works well in my experience.

 

From:  on behalf of Tom Moore 

Reply-To: 
Date: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 19:34
To: 
Subject: Vmware Fusion with Linux machines

 

Hi guys,

Has anyone had any problems with the stability of Linux machines after Debian 8 
and Centos 6 as far as Speakup goes in Vmware fusion 11 and 11.5?

This has been an issue that I’ve seen for quite some time, and it is now really 
starting to becoming annoying with newer versions of Linux?

If I use Linux version with out Speakup everything runs just fine.

For the time being what I do is run Debian 8 with Speakup and then ssh into the 
other Linux machines I need to use.

Using Debian 8 as my work station machine isn’t something I’d like to do much 
longer unless I have too!

 

Thanks for any tips you guys might have…

 

Tom

 

 

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RE: Vmware Fusion with Linux machines

[Tom Moore]

Hi,

I have not tried this screen reader as it is hard enough to get the basic 
distributions installed with Speakup for the install process.

Sometimes I can get most of the way through the process and others I cannot.

 

Tom



 

 

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 8:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Vmware Fusion with Linux machines

 

Have you tried Fenrir as your screen reader on the Linux machines?

https://linux-a11y.org/index.php?page=fenrir-screenreader

 

There was recently a mailing list discussion of the dependencies that had to be 
installed to run it under Debian. There’s already an Arch Linux package in the 
Arch User Repository. I don’t know the status on other distributions. Once it’s 
running, though, it works well in my experience.

 

From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> on behalf of Tom Moore mailto:tommym2...@gmail.com> >
Reply-To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Date: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 19:34
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Vmware Fusion with Linux machines

 

Hi guys,

Has anyone had any problems with the stability of Linux machines after Debian 8 
and Centos 6 as far as Speakup goes in Vmware fusion 11 and 11.5?

This has been an issue that I’ve seen for quite some time, and it is now really 
starting to becoming annoying with newer versions of Linux?

If I use Linux version with out Speakup everything runs just fine.

For the time being what I do is run Debian 8 with Speakup and then ssh into the 
other Linux machines I need to use.

Using Debian 8 as my work station machine isn’t something I’d like to do much 
longer unless I have too!

 

Thanks for any tips you guys might have…

 

Tom

 

 

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Re: Playing Media Attached to Keynote Presentations

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

When the media is inserted into the presentation, you can choose whether it 
starts automatically or upon click.  Navigate to the slide where the media 
resides, select the Animate radio button from the Toolbar, then select your 
desired build process from within the Formatter Scroll area.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 5, 2020, at 08:08, Steve Matzura  wrote:

How exactly does this work? Can a slide be displayed without triggering 
playback of attached media? If yes, how is media playback/replay
triggered?

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