iPad not connecting with BT keyboard

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I've been having a problem with my iPad not connecting with my BT keyboard.  I 
pair them, everything seems fine, but then the next time I go to connect them, 
they don't connect, and I have to re-pair them.  At this point, I'm repairing 
every time I want to use them.  Has anyone experienced this?  Any thought about 
what could cause it?  I thought the BT keyboard was supposed to connect 
automatically when the iPad came on, is that wrong?
TIA,
Donna

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more on bt keyboard problem

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi again,

Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing holds. 
 But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any help.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[alia robinson]

I am baffled at this device. they never have enough when you order you have to 
wait months. those of us with macs are told to suck it up, and buy a cheap 
windows computer to update our devices! I seriously cannot believe that was 
their advice, or go to the library. so I am supposed to get a sighted friend to 
drive me, and when I called the library said they wouldn’t allow me to download 
software on their machines to update it anyway, so I either have to find a 
friend to update, buy a computer with windows, or go without. the company even 
said we can’t do updates that’s up to you, but if you have a mac too bad. it’s 
supposed to be a device for all, so much for that. Okay, rant over! 


On Mar 15, 2019, at 1:18 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,  

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive Technology
Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille displays
for use with my iOS devices.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered that
they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.  While I was
there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit Reader 20 and were
equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.

I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays, from
other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.  Now, that,
is a beautiful device.

Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to test
drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

Mark

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Found undocumented shortcut on skype 8 to navigate to conversations

[Oriol Gómez]

Hi guys.
Next time you use skype 8 press option 1 and be surprised.

hth

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Re: more on bt keyboard problem

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Lock the iPad then turn off the keyboard.

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On 3/15/2019 4:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi again,

Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing holds. 
 But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any help.
Cheers,
Donna



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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Mark.
   Was this a Focus 5th or a new version? I like the 5th but its not 
being developed enough, it has some minor annoyances.


   Were there any displays from HandyTech?

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On 3/14/2019 10:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive Technology
Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille displays
for use with my iOS devices.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered that
they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.  While I was
there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit Reader 20 and were
equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.

I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays, from
other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.  Now, that,
is a beautiful device.

Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to test
drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

Mark



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USB dvd drives?

[Matt Turner]

Hi, anyone have any ideas?
I’ve seen some for 20 bucks, but wondered if I really needed a apple sooper  
drive for my mini?

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Re: Printing Text Message

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I went to Messages on the Mac but am not seeing some texts even 
though I have text forwarding set for all my email accounts. I am not 
syncing messages to iCloud. I wanted to print one out.


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On 3/14/2019 8:10 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Actually, going to your Mac is easier than that.  Simply open up the 
Messages app, navigate to the message thread you wish to print, then 
either cmd-p, or up to the File menu and down to Print.  You can choose 
to print it to paper on your printer or to pdf through the Print dialog. 
  Yes, as mentioned, it is possible to print from the iPhone, but I 
would venture to say that the screen shot method is much less accurate 
as you would need to ensure that you're not missing any parts of the 
conversation.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 14, 2019, at 16:59, David The Computer Guy > wrote:


My best advice were the two screen shoot the text messages or go to your 
Mac and copy and paste the whole iMessage into Pages and then you can 
print that, I had to do it with a legal matter with a guy who is been 
attacking me.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2019, at 3:07 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


 In iOS 12 how does one print a text message? My printer supports 
AirPrint.


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Re: Printing Text Message

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Check in Messages Prefs on the Mac to see that all the necessary accounts are 
checked there as well.  I assume  by your comment about Text Forwarding that 
they are all checked on your iPhone.  It's possible that you might need to turn 
on Messages in the Cloud now since those didn't sync already.  On the iPhone, 
it's in the Settings under your name and iCloud.  On the Mac, it's in Messages 
Prefs.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:09, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  I went to Messages on the Mac but am not seeing some texts even though I have 
text forwarding set for all my email accounts. I am not syncing messages to 
iCloud. I wanted to print one out.

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On 3/14/2019 8:10 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> Actually, going to your Mac is easier than that.  Simply open up the Messages 
> app, navigate to the message thread you wish to print, then either cmd-p, or 
> up to the File menu and down to Print.  You can choose to print it to paper 
> on your printer or to pdf through the Print dialog.   Yes, as mentioned, it 
> is possible to print from the iPhone, but I would venture to say that the 
> screen shot method is much less accurate as you would need to ensure that 
> you're not missing any parts of the conversation.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Mar 14, 2019, at 16:59, David The Computer Guy  > wrote:
> My best advice were the two screen shoot the text messages or go to your Mac 
> and copy and paste the whole iMessage into Pages and then you can print that, 
> I had to do it with a legal matter with a guy who is been attacking me.
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Mar 14, 2019, at 3:07 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> 
>>  In iOS 12 how does one print a text message? My printer supports AirPrint.
>> 
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Re: more on bt keyboard problem

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Nope.  I just tried that, and when I brought everything back up, I was once 
again unable to connect the keyboard.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:32 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
>   Lock the iPad then turn off the keyboard.
> 
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> On 3/15/2019 4:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi again,
>> Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
>> keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing 
>> holds.  But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any help.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Printing Text Message

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Yes to all that. On the Mac I enabled iCloud. Well I got quite a few 
old texts but the one I wanted to print out and on another, the 
conversation did not update.


   On the iPhone in the Messages settings, under Text Forwarding I now 
see two instances of my Mac. Hmmm.


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On 3/15/2019 11:36 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Check in Messages Prefs on the Mac to see that all the necessary 
accounts are checked there as well.  I assume  by your comment about 
Text Forwarding that they are all checked on your iPhone.  It's possible 
that you might need to turn on Messages in the Cloud now since those 
didn't sync already.  On the iPhone, it's in the Settings under your 
name and iCloud.  On the Mac, it's in Messages Prefs.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:09, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   I went to Messages on the Mac but am not seeing some texts even 
though I have text forwarding set for all my email accounts. I am not 
syncing messages to iCloud. I wanted to print one out.


 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/14/2019 8:10 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Actually, going to your Mac is easier than that.  Simply open up the 
Messages app, navigate to the message thread you wish to print, then 
either cmd-p, or up to the File menu and down to Print.  You can 
choose to print it to paper on your printer or to pdf through the 
Print dialog.   Yes, as mentioned, it is possible to print from the 
iPhone, but I would venture to say that the screen shot method is much 
less accurate as you would need to ensure that you're not missing any 
parts of the conversation.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Mar 14, 2019, at 16:59, David The Computer Guy 
mailto:lioncyc...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
My best advice were the two screen shoot the text messages or go to 
your Mac and copy and paste the whole iMessage into Pages and then you 
can print that, I had to do it with a legal matter with a guy who is 
been attacking me.

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 14, 2019, at 3:07 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:


 In iOS 12 how does one print a text message? My printer supports 
AirPrint.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Printing Text Message

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Hmmm.  sounds like a refresh is needed.  From the iPhone, go into Settings, 
then your name.  If you swipe past all the crap until you get to the list of 
devices registered to your Apple ID.  See if there's two instances of your Mac 
there.  If so, remove them both.  When your Mac is reconnected to the Internet, 
it will just re-add itself.  Hopefully, this fixes the duplication

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 15, 2019, at 13:25, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Yes to all that. On the Mac I enabled iCloud. Well I got quite a few old 
texts but the one I wanted to print out and on another, the conversation did 
not update.

  On the iPhone in the Messages settings, under Text Forwarding I now see two 
instances of my Mac. Hmmm.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
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On 3/15/2019 11:36 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> Check in Messages Prefs on the Mac to see that all the necessary accounts are 
> checked there as well.  I assume  by your comment about Text Forwarding that 
> they are all checked on your iPhone.  It's possible that you might need to 
> turn on Messages in the Cloud now since those didn't sync already.  On the 
> iPhone, it's in the Settings under your name and iCloud.  On the Mac, it's in 
> Messages Prefs.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:09, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>   I went to Messages on the Mac but am not seeing some texts even though I 
> have text forwarding set for all my email accounts. I am not syncing messages 
> to iCloud. I wanted to print one out.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 3/14/2019 8:10 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Actually, going to your Mac is easier than that.  Simply open up the 
>> Messages app, navigate to the message thread you wish to print, then either 
>> cmd-p, or up to the File menu and down to Print.  You can choose to print it 
>> to paper on your printer or to pdf through the Print dialog.   Yes, as 
>> mentioned, it is possible to print from the iPhone, but I would venture to 
>> say that the screen shot method is much less accurate as you would need to 
>> ensure that you're not missing any parts of the conversation.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Mar 14, 2019, at 16:59, David The Computer Guy >  > wrote:
>> My best advice were the two screen shoot the text messages or go to your Mac 
>> and copy and paste the whole iMessage into Pages and then you can print 
>> that, I had to do it with a legal matter with a guy who is been attacking me.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Mar 14, 2019, at 3:07 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>  In iOS 12 how does one print a text message? My printer supports AirPrint.
>>> 
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Re: Printing Text Message

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Might just sign everything out on both Mac and iPhone then back in. 
Might still have something signed in before the password reset.


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On 3/15/2019 1:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Hmmm.  sounds like a refresh is needed.  From the iPhone, go into 
Settings, then your name.  If you swipe past all the crap until you get 
to the list of devices registered to your Apple ID.  See if there's two 
instances of your Mac there.  If so, remove them both.  When your Mac is 
reconnected to the Internet, it will just re-add itself.  Hopefully, 
this fixes the duplication


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 15, 2019, at 13:25, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   Yes to all that. On the Mac I enabled iCloud. Well I got quite a few 
old texts but the one I wanted to print out and on another, the 
conversation did not update.


   On the iPhone in the Messages settings, under Text Forwarding I now 
see two instances of my Mac. Hmmm.


 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/15/2019 11:36 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Check in Messages Prefs on the Mac to see that all the necessary 
accounts are checked there as well.  I assume  by your comment about 
Text Forwarding that they are all checked on your iPhone.  It's 
possible that you might need to turn on Messages in the Cloud now 
since those didn't sync already.  On the iPhone, it's in the Settings 
under your name and iCloud.  On the Mac, it's in Messages Prefs.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:09, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  I went to Messages on the Mac but am not seeing some texts even 
though I have text forwarding set for all my email accounts. I am not 
syncing messages to iCloud. I wanted to print one out.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com  


Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 3/14/2019 8:10 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Actually, going to your Mac is easier than that.  Simply open up the 
Messages app, navigate to the message thread you wish to print, then 
either cmd-p, or up to the File menu and down to Print.  You can 
choose to print it to paper on your printer or to pdf through the 
Print dialog.   Yes, as mentioned, it is possible to print from the 
iPhone, but I would venture to say that the screen shot method is 
much less accurate as you would need to ensure that you're not 
missing any parts of the conversation.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Mar 14, 2019, at 16:59, David The Computer Guy 
mailto:lioncyc...@gmail.com> 
 > wrote:
My best advice were the two screen shoot the text messages or go to 
your Mac and copy and paste the whole iMessage into Pages and then 
you can print that, I had to do it with a legal matter with a guy who 
is been attacking me.

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 14, 2019, at 3:07 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
 
> wrote:


 In iOS 12 how does one print a text message? My printer supports 
AirPrint.


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Re: more on bt keyboard problem

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   That usually preserves the connections. Have you removed the 
keyboard completely then paired it again with the iPad?


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On 3/15/2019 12:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Nope.  I just tried that, and when I brought everything back up, I was once 
again unable to connect the keyboard.
Cheers,
Donna



On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:32 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Lock the iPad then turn off the keyboard.

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On 3/15/2019 4:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi again,
Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing holds. 
 But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any help.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: more on bt keyboard problem

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

A million times!

> On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   That usually preserves the connections. Have you removed the keyboard 
> completely then paired it again with the iPad?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 3/15/2019 12:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Nope.  I just tried that, and when I brought everything back up, I was once 
>> again unable to connect the keyboard.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:32 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Lock the iPad then turn off the keyboard.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 3/15/2019 4:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi again,
 Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
 keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing 
 holds.  But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any help.
 Cheers,
 Donna
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Re: more on bt keyboard problem

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Reset network settings?

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On 3/15/2019 3:17 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

A million times!


On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   That usually preserves the connections. Have you removed the keyboard 
completely then paired it again with the iPad?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/15/2019 12:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Nope.  I just tried that, and when I brought everything back up, I was once 
again unable to connect the keyboard.
Cheers,
Donna

On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:32 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Lock the iPad then turn off the keyboard.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
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On 3/15/2019 4:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi again,
Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing holds. 
 But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any help.
Cheers,
Donna


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apple watch heart rate

[John Weir]

I am Vickie Weir, I originally spent four years during the development 
of Voice over testing voice over for Apple with a group of about 20 of 
us.  Any way, I am interested in using the apple watch 4  to monitor my 
pulse rate while I exercise.  I am totally blind.   I would like the 
watch to say, on Bluetooth, to my ear phone what the heart rate is, on a 
constant basis, as I exercise.  I am 52 years old and have to keep it 
under certain limits.


Have any of you used it this way, I know that the watch can measure the 
heart rate, but since I cant see I need to hear the result.  Can siri be 
used? and I cant be searching all over the watch while exercising.


Thanks for any help I can get.  Vickie

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RE: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alia,

Wow!  I was glad to read your "rant", (smile).  

Well, you've pretty much settled the question for me.  

Even though I have several Windows computers, an Orbit Reader 20 is definitely 
not in my future.  To me, customer service/customer support is so very 
important.

Mark

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Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

I am baffled at this device. they never have enough when you order you have to 
wait months. those of us with macs are told to suck it up, and buy a cheap 
windows computer to update our devices! I seriously cannot believe that was 
their advice, or go to the library. so I am supposed to get a sighted friend to 
drive me, and when I called the library said they wouldn’t allow me to download 
software on their machines to update it anyway, so I either have to find a 
friend to update, buy a computer with windows, or go without. the company even 
said we can’t do updates that’s up to you, but if you have a mac too bad. it’s 
supposed to be a device for all, so much for that. Okay, rant over! 


On Mar 15, 2019, at 1:18 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,  

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive Technology 
Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille displays for 
use with my iOS devices.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered that they 
had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.  While I was there, 2 
other people walked up and asked about the Orbit Reader 20 and were equally 
disappointed at the lack of a demo model.

I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays, from 
other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.  Now, that, is a 
beautiful device.

Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to test 
drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

Mark

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RE: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[M. Taylor]

Hello E.T., 

To be honest, I did not determine the generation name of the display model of 
the Focus.  I simply told them that I wanted to take a look at the most recent 
version of the Focus 40.

I did not see any HandyTech displays but, then again, I did not look for any 
HandyTech products.  

While I went to virtually all of the blindness related booths, Humanware, Hims, 
and Freedom Scientific were the vendors to which I paid the most attention.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

Mark.
Was this a Focus 5th or a new version? I like the 5th but its not being 
developed enough, it has some minor annoyances.

Were there any displays from HandyTech?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/14/2019 10:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive 
> Technology Conference here in southern California.
> 
> Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille 
> displays for use with my iOS devices.
> 
> Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered 
> that they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.  
> While I was there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit 
> Reader 20 and were equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.
> 
> I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays, 
> from other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.  
> Now, that, is a beautiful device.
> 
> Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to 
> test drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.
> 
> And the beat goes on,
> 
> Mark
> 

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RE: USB dvd drives?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Matt,

It's a personal choice.

What I can tell you is that, recently, when attempting to rip a particularly 
troublesome DVD, the only USB drive that would get the job done was my Apple 
USB DVD Super Drive.

I tried three other modern USB DVD devices and all reported errors.

Just saying ...

Mark

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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:33 AM
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Subject: USB dvd drives?

Hi, anyone have any ideas?
I’ve seen some for 20 bucks, but wondered if I really needed a apple sooper  
drive for my mini?

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RE: more on bt keyboard problem

[M. Taylor]

Hello Donna,

Hmm!  This is fascinating.  

I'm assuming you've done your research on Google and have not found this to be 
a problem for others?  

Mark

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Subject: Re: more on bt keyboard problem

A million times!

> On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
>   That usually preserves the connections. Have you removed the keyboard 
> completely then paired it again with the iPad?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 3/15/2019 12:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Nope.  I just tried that, and when I brought everything back up, I was once 
>> again unable to connect the keyboard.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:32 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Lock the iPad then turn off the keyboard.
>>> 
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>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> 
>>> On 3/15/2019 4:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi again,
 Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
 keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing 
 holds.  But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any help.
 Cheers,
 Donna
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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[Raymond Foret Jr]

That is exactly the reason I refuse to buy one of those Orbit readers.  The 
BrailleMi is just exactly the same way from what I hear.


Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On Mar 15, 2019, at 7:54 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alia,
> 
> Wow!  I was glad to read your "rant", (smile).  
> 
> Well, you've pretty much settled the question for me.  
> 
> Even though I have several Windows computers, an Orbit Reader 20 is 
> definitely not in my future.  To me, customer service/customer support is so 
> very important.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 5:17 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so
> 
> I am baffled at this device. they never have enough when you order you have 
> to wait months. those of us with macs are told to suck it up, and buy a cheap 
> windows computer to update our devices! I seriously cannot believe that was 
> their advice, or go to the library. so I am supposed to get a sighted friend 
> to drive me, and when I called the library said they wouldn’t allow me to 
> download software on their machines to update it anyway, so I either have to 
> find a friend to update, buy a computer with windows, or go without. the 
> company even said we can’t do updates that’s up to you, but if you have a mac 
> too bad. it’s supposed to be a device for all, so much for that. Okay, rant 
> over! 
> 
> 
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 1:18 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive Technology 
> Conference here in southern California.
> 
> Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille displays 
> for use with my iOS devices.
> 
> Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered that 
> they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.  While I was 
> there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit Reader 20 and were 
> equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.
> 
> I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays, from 
> other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.  Now, that, is 
> a beautiful device.
> 
> Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to test 
> drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.
> 
> And the beat goes on,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I had my fingers on a HandyTech display for a few minutes and would 
have liked to have kept it. It had an ergonomic display, not flat.


   The Hims displays I have used developed many weak cells. At $70 per 
cell its  gamble how many out of 40 would be replaced. The Focus 5th I 
have is just a few months old and has some cells that are problematic 
right now. Not to mention the lack of development. One update in almost 
a year. Other than that, its decent. Very easy to connect to any one of 
5 devices. Sometimes too easy when you don't want a connection.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/15/2019 5:58 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello E.T.,

To be honest, I did not determine the generation name of the display model of 
the Focus.  I simply told them that I wanted to take a look at the most recent 
version of the Focus 40.

I did not see any HandyTech displays but, then again, I did not look for any 
HandyTech products.

While I went to virtually all of the blindness related booths, Humanware, Hims, 
and Freedom Scientific were the vendors to which I paid the most attention.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

Mark.
 Was this a Focus 5th or a new version? I like the 5th but its not being 
developed enough, it has some minor annoyances.

 Were there any displays from HandyTech?

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/14/2019 10:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive
Technology Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille
displays for use with my iOS devices.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered
that they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.
While I was there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit
Reader 20 and were equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.

I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays,
from other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.
Now, that, is a beautiful device.

Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to
test drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

Mark



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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[Mary Otten]

Which Handy tech display did you see? And how is the Mac conductivity?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2019, at 6:30 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I had my fingers on a HandyTech display for a few minutes and would have 
> liked to have kept it. It had an ergonomic display, not flat.
> 
>   The Hims displays I have used developed many weak cells. At $70 per cell 
> its  gamble how many out of 40 would be replaced. The Focus 5th I have is 
> just a few months old and has some cells that are problematic right now. Not 
> to mention the lack of development. One update in almost a year. Other than 
> that, its decent. Very easy to connect to any one of 5 devices. Sometimes too 
> easy when you don't want a connection.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 3/15/2019 5:58 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello E.T.,
>> To be honest, I did not determine the generation name of the display model 
>> of the Focus.  I simply told them that I wanted to take a look at the most 
>> recent version of the Focus 40.
>> I did not see any HandyTech displays but, then again, I did not look for any 
>> HandyTech products.
>> While I went to virtually all of the blindness related booths, Humanware, 
>> Hims, and Freedom Scientific were the vendors to which I paid the most 
>> attention.
>> Mark
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:03 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so
>> Mark.
>> Was this a Focus 5th or a new version? I like the 5th but its not being 
>> developed enough, it has some minor annoyances.
>> Were there any displays from HandyTech?
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> On 3/14/2019 10:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive
>>> Technology Conference here in southern California.
>>> 
>>> Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille
>>> displays for use with my iOS devices.
>>> 
>>> Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered
>>> that they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.
>>> While I was there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit
>>> Reader 20 and were equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.
>>> 
>>> I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays,
>>> from other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.
>>> Now, that, is a beautiful device.
>>> 
>>> Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to
>>> test drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.
>>> 
>>> And the beat goes on,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I am not sure but can probably find out. Being that is is twice as 
expensive as other displays (the Active Braille may be the one I saw and 
would like to get that one), I was afraid to get too excited as the 
program I was in might balk and ultimately they did.


   The Focus 5th will connect if I turn the Mac on or unlock my phone, 
its that good. And its just as easy to disconnect it too or switch to 
another device.


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On 3/15/2019 7:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Which Handy tech display did you see? And how is the Mac conductivity?


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 15, 2019, at 6:30 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   I had my fingers on a HandyTech display for a few minutes and would have 
liked to have kept it. It had an ergonomic display, not flat.

   The Hims displays I have used developed many weak cells. At $70 per cell its 
 gamble how many out of 40 would be replaced. The Focus 5th I have is just a 
few months old and has some cells that are problematic right now. Not to 
mention the lack of development. One update in almost a year. Other than that, 
its decent. Very easy to connect to any one of 5 devices. Sometimes too easy 
when you don't want a connection.

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On 3/15/2019 5:58 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello E.T.,
To be honest, I did not determine the generation name of the display model of 
the Focus.  I simply told them that I wanted to take a look at the most recent 
version of the Focus 40.
I did not see any HandyTech displays but, then again, I did not look for any 
HandyTech products.
While I went to virtually all of the blindness related booths, Humanware, Hims, 
and Freedom Scientific were the vendors to which I paid the most attention.
Mark
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so
Mark.
 Was this a Focus 5th or a new version? I like the 5th but its not being 
developed enough, it has some minor annoyances.
 Were there any displays from HandyTech?
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On 3/14/2019 10:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive
Technology Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille
displays for use with my iOS devices.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered
that they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.
While I was there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit
Reader 20 and were equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.

I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays,
from other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.
Now, that, is a beautiful device.

Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to
test drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

Mark


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Re: more on bt keyboard problem

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Well, I'm glad you find it fascinating. :)  Personally, I'm ready to put the 
iPad up for sale and throw in the keyboard as a free piece of .

The long and short of it seems to be that as long as I neither completely power 
off the iPad nor push the keyboard switch to the off position, the connection 
remains.  Once I do either of those things, the connection  is lost.  This is 
truly annoying, and in my opinion, completely unacceptable.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 15, 2019, at 8:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Donna,
> 
> Hmm!  This is fascinating.  
> 
> I'm assuming you've done your research on Google and have not found this to 
> be a problem for others?  
> 
> Mark
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: more on bt keyboard problem
> 
> A million times!
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  That usually preserves the connections. Have you removed the keyboard 
>> completely then paired it again with the iPad?
>> 
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>> On 3/15/2019 12:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Nope.  I just tried that, and when I brought everything back up, I was once 
>>> again unable to connect the keyboard.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:32 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
  Lock the iPad then turn off the keyboard.
 
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 On 3/15/2019 4:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi again,
> Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
> keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing 
> holds.  But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any help.
> Cheers,
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Re: more on bt keyboard problem

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Trying to avoid that.  Don't have this issue with any of my other BT devices. 
thinking this keyboard has already been more trouble than it's worth.  
Surprised, given that it's a Logitech keyboard.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 15, 2019, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Reset network settings?
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> On 3/15/2019 3:17 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> A million times!
>>> On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   That usually preserves the connections. Have you removed the keyboard 
>>> completely then paired it again with the iPad?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> in the past. What if it were true?
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>>> On 3/15/2019 12:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Nope.  I just tried that, and when I brought everything back up, I was 
 once again unable to connect the keyboard.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:32 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Lock the iPad then turn off the keyboard.
> 
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> On 3/15/2019 4:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi again,
>> Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
>> keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing 
>> holds.  But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any 
>> help.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: more on bt keyboard problem

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I understand. Its no less painful than changing the Apple ID password;

   Something I did not think to mention is, is this particular keyboard 
as troublesome with your iPhone? Might be its got a defect.


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On 3/15/2019 8:01 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Trying to avoid that.  Don't have this issue with any of my other BT devices. 
thinking this keyboard has already been more trouble than it's worth.  
Surprised, given that it's a Logitech keyboard.
Cheers,
Donna


On Mar 15, 2019, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Reset network settings?

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On 3/15/2019 3:17 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

A million times!

On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   That usually preserves the connections. Have you removed the keyboard 
completely then paired it again with the iPad?

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On 3/15/2019 12:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Nope.  I just tried that, and when I brought everything back up, I was once 
again unable to connect the keyboard.
Cheers,
Donna

On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:32 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Lock the iPad then turn off the keyboard.

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On 3/15/2019 4:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi again,
Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing holds. 
 But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any help.
Cheers,
Donna


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RE: more on bt keyboard problem

[M. Taylor]

Hello Donna,

I apologize that my reply made your current keyboard issue seem merely 
academic.  Of course it is frustrating and I am sorry that it has not performed 
as you expected.  

Of course you should do what will make you feel best but I would tentatively 
suggest that you visit an Apple Store and see what kind of keyboard-related 
solutions they have in stock for your particular device.  

Just a suggestion.

Your Brother on the Journey,

Mark

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: more on bt keyboard problem

Well, I'm glad you find it fascinating. :)  Personally, I'm ready to put the 
iPad up for sale and throw in the keyboard as a free piece of .

The long and short of it seems to be that as long as I neither completely power 
off the iPad nor push the keyboard switch to the off position, the connection 
remains.  Once I do either of those things, the connection  is lost.  This is 
truly annoying, and in my opinion, completely unacceptable.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 15, 2019, at 8:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> Hmm!  This is fascinating.  
> 
> I'm assuming you've done your research on Google and have not found this to 
> be a problem for others?  
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 3:18 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: more on bt keyboard problem
> 
> A million times!
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  That usually preserves the connections. Have you removed the keyboard 
>> completely then paired it again with the iPad?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> 
>> On 3/15/2019 12:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Nope.  I just tried that, and when I brought everything back up, I was once 
>>> again unable to connect the keyboard.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:32 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
  Lock the iPad then turn off the keyboard.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
 true?
 
 On 3/15/2019 4:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi again,
> Just one follow-up comment.  This seems to be related to turning off the 
> keyboard.  It seems that if I leave the keyboard powered on, the pairing 
> holds.  But once I turn it off, the pairing is lost.  Appreciate any help.
> Cheers,
> Donna
 
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