Re: Question: How To Disable Auto-Complete in Safari in El Capitan?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Thank you very much Mark for asking this question as Auto complete drives me 
insane.  Like you I hate it.  I also have turned it off in Windows.  If you can 
disable it in Windows then you should be able to disable it on the Mac.  If 
it’s not there, those who are doing beta testing, please request that as a 
feature.

Many thanks.

Kawal.
> On 23 Jul 2016, at 03:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> When I begin typing in a URL in the Safari location bar (Command+L), the
> auto-complete kicks in; I really don't like this feature.  
> 
> How can I disable this feature?  
> 
> I looked in Safari preferences but cannot seem to find the necessary option.
> 
> Could this, perhaps, be a system-wide setting?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
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> mark
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Re: Question: How To Disable Auto-Complete in Safari in El Capitan?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The ability to disable Auto-Complete has been deprecated.  There used to be an 
option to do this, but it no longer is available.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 23, 2016, at 04:52, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Thank you very much Mark for asking this question as Auto complete drives me 
insane.  Like you I hate it.  I also have turned it off in Windows.  If you can 
disable it in Windows then you should be able to disable it on the Mac.  If 
it’s not there, those who are doing beta testing, please request that as a 
feature.

Many thanks.

Kawal.
> On 23 Jul 2016, at 03:06, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> When I begin typing in a URL in the Safari location bar (Command+L), the
> auto-complete kicks in; I really don't like this feature.  
> 
> How can I disable this feature?  
> 
> I looked in Safari preferences but cannot seem to find the necessary option.
> 
> Could this, perhaps, be a system-wide setting?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> mark
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Re: remote access

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

Not sure if this will work in newer versions of MacOS, but take a look at this 
one:

http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110222080854178

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 22, 2016, at 18:45, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim
 
Yeah I know of things like that but how if you are trying to work on a remote 
machine of your own  can you then enable a facetime connection without someone 
there to enable the connection?
 
How possible would it be to enable a facetime session via a terminal connection 
/ from the command line.
 
Now that’s one to get the cogs turning over!
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Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 3:30 AM
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Subject: Re: remote access
 
Simon,
 
As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the FaceTime 
session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed through to 
your computer.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
 
On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi List,
 
I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.
 
Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  control 
another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?
 
I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is an 
option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of thing 
is not up to scratch as yet.
 
Any information would be appreciate.
 
Simon f
 
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Twitter links

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. How do I open links within a tweet as I'm using the native Twitter app. 

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Re: Twitter links

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Usually, you can double-tap on the tweet which will bring up a more detailed 
version of it.  The link should be accessible within that page.  Double-tap on 
it to activate, then Close/Back your way out to go to the main list of tweets.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 23, 2016, at 08:40, Saqib Hussain  wrote:

Hi. How do I open links within a tweet as I'm using the native Twitter app. 

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Re: [macvoiceover] [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well its good news but as i now have an index everest v4 i don’t need it myself.
A bit steap for my wallet for a beta too.
/A
> 20 juli 2016 kl. 03:46 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> While I personally do not have any plans to purchase a beta, having no clue 
> how long it will take for the actual final product to come out, this is still 
> a welcome development on the Mac braille front.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Keith Reedy mailto:keithre...@fastmail.net>>
>> Date: July 19, 2016 at 2:57:43 PM PDT
>> To: Voiceover Mac > >
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Fwd: [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale
>> Reply-To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: "Neal Kuniansky" mailto:n...@duxsys.com>>
>>> Subject: [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale
>>> Date: July 19, 2016 at 3:30:34 PM EDT
>>> To: mailto:duxn...@freelists.org>>
>>> Reply-To: i...@duxsys.com 
>>> 
>>> Dear Dux:
>>>  
>>> Announcing NEW DBT MAC;  purchase the Beta now!
>>> * includes free update to the final 12.1 product & a free year of upgrades 
>>> after that.
>>>  
>>> We recommend using DBT MAC with OS X El Capitan.
>>> Pricing is $595, the same as for DBT Win. 
>>> Registered owners of old DBT MAC can UPGRADE FOR ONLY $495.
>>>  
>>> DBT MAC print and braille files are compatible with DBT WIN!
>>>  
>>> Product status as of July 18, 2016:   
>>>* There are limitations on TactileView graphics,
>>>* No auto-save,
>>>* No current support for ViewPlus embossers,
>>>* No current support for the Cosmo embosser,
>>>* Some issues with VoiceOver navigation by word moving  forward.
>>>* Import of Word files does not include reference page markers from 
>>> printed page breaks.
>>>* No current support of GOODFEEL files
>>>  
>>> All of these are short term limitations, with the exception of the last
>>> two (reference page markers, GOODFEEL files), which may or may not be 
>>> available in future releases.
>>>  
>>> Apart from these current limitations and the possibility that some keyboard 
>>> shortcuts may change,
>>> the DBT MAC program is stable.
>>>  
>>> See:
>>> http://www.duxburysystems.com/dbt_mac.asp 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Contact your local dealer or Duxbury Systems directly!
>>> EMAIL: ord...@duxsys.com 
>>> TEL:  +1-978-204-1773
>>> www.DUxburySystems.com 
>>> Duxbury Systems, Inc.
>>> Over 40 years of service to braille literacy.
>> 
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Re: adding location to FB pages

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Not sure exactly what you're trying to do here.  Locations are usually for 
posting or checking in etc as FaceBook uses your iPhone's Location Services to 
determine where you are.  If you're wanting an address displayed on your page, 
look at this link:

https://www.google.ca/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=add+location+to+my+facebook+page&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=AoaTV9TZB_LL8Aecu4OoDA

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 22, 2016, at 12:28, Vaughn Brown  wrote:

Hi everyone,

Hope all is well. I am trying to add a location to my FB page. Already
I tried setting the page as local businesses and company/organization.
All I can see is a website address field but no location field. I read
some FB help tips but the steps are not accessible. I've tried using
my Windows with Jaws, Mac with Voiceover, and apparently the pages
settings cannot be modified from the iPhone --  that is what it states
on the FB help center page.

Your insight would be very helpful.

Best,
Vaughn

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504-202-8492
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Re: Question: How To Disable Auto-Complete in Safari in El Capitan?

[Blee Blat]

So we should all email bug reports asking  that it be put back because I have 
over 400 bookmarks  that it tries to autocomplete every time I type text and so 
it lags every time I use the address bar. 

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Re: Gmail question

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It sounds like your gMail is set to Trash things instead of Archiving them.  
I'm guessing that your Mail is also set to possibly move items from your Sent 
Mail to the Trash after a specific time period.  I believe that this 
combination would present this duplication.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 22, 2016, at 15:05, Larry Thacker Jr.  wrote:

This may or may not have anything to do with the Mac, but I am curious why I 
find multiple copies of messages I have sent in the trash.  I did not use my 
Gmail account much until I discovered the ease with which one could go through 
list traffic in Mail and started using it for subscriptions.

Larry Thacker Jr.
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Moving WiFi networks on MacOS El Capitain

[Jonathan Cohn]

Good Morning,

For the first time since upgrading, I needed to change the priority of networks 
in my WiFi settings. My memory was that there were move up and move down 
buttons just beyond the table of networks I have joined that you have to get to 
by interacting with a group. I could not find this, so I tried several 
techniques (highlighted below) to drag the last network up the list. I was 
unsuccessful in doing this with  Voiceover.  Before I report to Accessibility, 
could somebody else confirm this is impossible. 

The basic procedure is:

1. Open System Preferences
2. Switch to Network and then unlock the preference pane.
3. Click the Advanced Button.

This brings up a table of networks where you can select one at a time and edit 
settings, add and remove stations and change priority. The panel states drag 
and drop to change the order.

My attempts were as follows:
1. Try Option arrows and control arrows.
2. Use vo drag / drop (vo-, followed by vo - .)
3. Try moving mouse to VO cursor and using the mouse down  / mouse up  VO 
keystrokes.
4. Use VO move object keystroke on different interaction levels of the table of 
networks (vo-command-accent ) 
Please let me know if you can think of any other approaches. Also, if somebody 
on a Beta version would like to let me know if perhaps this is an already 
resolved issue so I don't have to bug Accessibility over an issue that has been 
resolved in the latest code fix.


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Re: Moving WiFi networks on MacOS El Capitain

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

This process works in El Capitan.  Using VO-comma and VO-period will work if 
you're only moving it up or down within the visible networks.  Once the 
original network goes out of the scroll list, VO can't seem to handle it.  
Using the old fashioned Drag & Drop method will work though.  So, for example, 
I have a network named Chateau Lacombe way down my list and I wish to move it 
much higher in the priority, then I'd navigate to the Chateau Lacombe network 
(Press VO-cmd-f5 if your cursors aren't following each other), then 
VO-shift-cmd-space to activate the mouse down action, then VO-up to the item 
I'd like it to be above, press VO-cmd-f5 to route the mouse to the VO-cursor 
and finally press VO-shift-cmd-space to drop it.  Often, you need to use the 
VO-cmd-f5 after the drag as I've found that the cursors don't follow each other 
properly during this process.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 23, 2016, at 09:05, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Good Morning,

For the first time since upgrading, I needed to change the priority of networks 
in my WiFi settings. My memory was that there were move up and move down 
buttons just beyond the table of networks I have joined that you have to get to 
by interacting with a group. I could not find this, so I tried several 
techniques (highlighted below) to drag the last network up the list. I was 
unsuccessful in doing this with  Voiceover.  Before I report to Accessibility, 
could somebody else confirm this is impossible. 

The basic procedure is:

1. Open System Preferences
2. Switch to Network and then unlock the preference pane.
3. Click the Advanced Button.

This brings up a table of networks where you can select one at a time and edit 
settings, add and remove stations and change priority. The panel states drag 
and drop to change the order.

My attempts were as follows:
1. Try Option arrows and control arrows.
2. Use vo drag / drop (vo-, followed by vo - .)
3. Try moving mouse to VO cursor and using the mouse down  / mouse up  VO 
keystrokes.
4. Use VO move object keystroke on different interaction levels of the table of 
networks (vo-command-accent ) 
Please let me know if you can think of any other approaches. Also, if somebody 
on a Beta version would like to let me know if perhaps this is an already 
resolved issue so I don't have to bug Accessibility over an issue that has been 
resolved in the latest code fix.


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Re: Question: How To Disable Auto-Complete in Safari in El Capitan?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I was hoping that perhaps tinker tool would have an option for that. It does 
have some other options that could help with performance for us, like disabling 
animations in the Dock and Finder. 

Note: if you look at the Tinkertool Safari tab, it will crash when navigating 
the font adjustment with VO and cursor tracking on.

I guess I'll have to find the vendor contact.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 




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Re: Gmail question

[Jonathan Cohn]

I find that  while composing messages, Google will keep various versions of the 
message  labeled  as drafts, and then when the message is sent it will move 
these to the trash.

If you are using APple's mail as your primary interface into Gmail, you can 
remove this effect by telling mail not to store drafts on the server. This will 
have the side-effect of making it slightly more difficult (depending on OS 
versions and hardware) to continue working on the same draft from different 
systems. I believe if your Macintosh supports and has continuity enabled then 
there is no need to store drafts on the server.
 
Best wishes

Jonathan Cohn
,



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using caliber

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
Does anybody have suggestions about how to use the latest version of caliber?

I am trying to convert some books with it.  I’ve managed to import the books, 
but can’t seem to choose the output type I want-it’s stuck on pub and I want 
pdf..  also, doing a bulk conversion of all the books in my library doesn’t 
seem to work.

any help would be great!

Cait

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Re: Question: How To Disable Auto-Complete in Safari in El Capitan?

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

Even worse, I have a bookmark to a site I manage that as of v10.11.5 now will 
not work because Safari erroneously autocompletes the bookmark of all things so 
that it goes to another page on the site that happens to start with the same 
first characters.  I have tried to purge the offending url from Safari’s memory 
but it keeps coming back.  I’m thinking of renaming the link but doing so will 
inconvenience everyone else who uses it.  Autocomplete should never be 
triggered by activating a bookmark link.  This is a bug.  Usually I like the 
autocomplete but having no way to turn it off is not user friendly at all and 
could even be considered a security risk.  Whoever made that decision at Apple 
needs to find something else to do.

> On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Blee Blat  wrote:
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> so it lags every time I use the address bar. 
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Re: Gmail question

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

Interesting.  Thanks to both of you who answered.  I rarely have reason to go 
digging through the trash, so as long as it doesn’t mean that somehow people 
are getting multiple copies of my messages it doesn’t really matter.  I was 
just curious why it would be so. 

> On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> I find that  while composing messages, Google will keep various versions of 
> the message  labeled  as drafts, and then when the message is sent it will 
> move these to the trash.
> 
> If you are using APple's mail as your primary interface into Gmail, you can 
> remove this effect by telling mail not to store drafts on the server. This 
> will have the side-effect of making it slightly more difficult (depending on 
> OS versions and hardware) to continue working on the same draft from 
> different systems. I believe if your Macintosh supports and has continuity 
> enabled then there is no need to store drafts on the server.
>  
> Best wishes
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> ,
> 
> 
> 
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>> 
>> This may or may not have anything to do with the Mac, but I am curious why I 
>> find multiple copies of messages I have sent in the trash.  I did not use my 
>> Gmail account much until I discovered the ease with which one could go 
>> through list traffic in Mail and started using it for subscriptions.
>> 
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Re: Question: How To Disable Auto-Complete in Safari in El Capitan?

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   I have been looking at this since Mark posted the question.

   My research points to Safari > Preferences > Autofill. On that tab 
there are 3-4 checkboxes, the last one called Other Forms. This SHOULD 
take care of the location bar. But even with uncheckng it and clearing 
all history, autofill still works.


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On 7/23/2016 9:53 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. wrote:

Even worse, I have a bookmark to a site I manage that as of v10.11.5 now will 
not work because Safari erroneously autocompletes the bookmark of all things so 
that it goes to another page on the site that happens to start with the same 
first characters.  I have tried to purge the offending url from Safari’s memory 
but it keeps coming back.  I’m thinking of renaming the link but doing so will 
inconvenience everyone else who uses it.  Autocomplete should never be 
triggered by activating a bookmark link.  This is a bug.  Usually I like the 
autocomplete but having no way to turn it off is not user friendly at all and 
could even be considered a security risk.  Whoever made that decision at Apple 
needs to find something else to do.


On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Blee Blat  wrote:

So we should all email bug reports asking  that it be put back because I have 
over 400 bookmarks  that it tries to autocomplete every time I type text and so 
it lags every time I use the address bar.

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Re: Question: How To Disable Auto-Complete in Safari in El Capitan?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

There used to be a specific item in that area for auto-completing addresses.  
It is no longer present.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 23, 2016, at 11:06, E.T.  wrote:

  I have been looking at this since Mark posted the question.

  My research points to Safari > Preferences > Autofill. On that tab there are 
3-4 checkboxes, the last one called Other Forms. This SHOULD take care of the 
location bar. But even with uncheckng it and clearing all history, autofill 
still works.

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On 7/23/2016 9:53 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. wrote:
> Even worse, I have a bookmark to a site I manage that as of v10.11.5 now will 
> not work because Safari erroneously autocompletes the bookmark of all things 
> so that it goes to another page on the site that happens to start with the 
> same first characters.  I have tried to purge the offending url from Safari’s 
> memory but it keeps coming back.  I’m thinking of renaming the link but doing 
> so will inconvenience everyone else who uses it.  Autocomplete should never 
> be triggered by activating a bookmark link.  This is a bug.  Usually I like 
> the autocomplete but having no way to turn it off is not user friendly at all 
> and could even be considered a security risk.  Whoever made that decision at 
> Apple needs to find something else to do.
> 
>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Blee Blat  wrote:
>> 
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>> have over 400 bookmarks  that it tries to autocomplete every time I type 
>> text and so it lags every time I use the address bar.
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Re: swift playgroupnd

[Kevin Chao]

Playground  is iPad iOS 10-only and is 100% VoiceoVer accessible.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 2:48 AM Simon Fogarty  wrote:

> Avid,
>
>
>
> Thanks for that, Might hve to install the beta to my iPad.
>
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>
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> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *David Chittenden
> *Sent:* Thursday, 21 July 2016 10:03 PM
>
>
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: swift playgroupnd
>
>
>
> According to a blind programmer who is on the Swift Playground team, Swift
> Playground is fully accessible.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 21 Jul 2016, at 20:59, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>
> Hi Donna,
>
>
>
> I didn’t know it was available yet.
>
>
>
> I’m keen to know how accessible it is before I go getting it.
>
>
>
> But very interested.
>
>
>
> *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Donna Goodin
> *Sent:* Thursday, 21 July 2016 1:46 AM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: swift playgroupnd
>
>
>
> I was actually hoping to buy it.  So I hope it does work on the iPhone,
> because I don't have an iPad.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Donna
>
> On Jul 20, 2016, at 2:21 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>
>
>
> Donna I was just wondering that myself.
>
>
>
> My iPhone 6s+ is not much smaller than my iPad mini 4.
>
>
>
> Go figure.
>
>
>
> *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Donna Goodin
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 July 2016 11:36 PM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: swift playgroupnd
>
>
>
> Hi Alex,
>
>
>
> Does that mean that it cannot be run on an iPhone?
>
> thanks,
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 5:50 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>
>
>
> The app will be available for everyone, for free, but it can only run on
> an iPad running iOS10. Right now, it's available for those running iOS10
> betas as part of their testing.
>
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 06:46, Ben J. Bloomgren 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Simon,
>
>
>
> As far as I can tell, it'll be available for everybody, being that it's
> supposed to be a helper for people who want to learn to program for Apple's
> apps.
>
>
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On 7/19/2016 2:28, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I was just wondering about the swift Playground  dev app that is to be
> released some time this year.
>
>
>
> Is that to be available for everyone or only available for Developers?
>
>
>
> Does anyone know if its available yet or is it only currently in a dev or
> beta state
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Re: Question: How To Disable Auto-Complete in Safari in El Capitan?

[E.T.]

   Ok then Other Forms is not it. Dang it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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On 7/23/2016 10:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

There used to be a specific item in that area for auto-completing addresses.  
It is no longer present.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 23, 2016, at 11:06, E.T.  wrote:

  I have been looking at this since Mark posted the question.

  My research points to Safari > Preferences > Autofill. On that tab there are 
3-4 checkboxes, the last one called Other Forms. This SHOULD take care of the 
location bar. But even with uncheckng it and clearing all history, autofill still 
works.

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On 7/23/2016 9:53 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. wrote:

Even worse, I have a bookmark to a site I manage that as of v10.11.5 now will 
not work because Safari erroneously autocompletes the bookmark of all things so 
that it goes to another page on the site that happens to start with the same 
first characters.  I have tried to purge the offending url from Safari’s memory 
but it keeps coming back.  I’m thinking of renaming the link but doing so will 
inconvenience everyone else who uses it.  Autocomplete should never be 
triggered by activating a bookmark link.  This is a bug.  Usually I like the 
autocomplete but having no way to turn it off is not user friendly at all and 
could even be considered a security risk.  Whoever made that decision at Apple 
needs to find something else to do.


On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Blee Blat  wrote:

So we should all email bug reports asking  that it be put back because I have 
over 400 bookmarks  that it tries to autocomplete every time I type text and so 
it lags every time I use the address bar.

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Re: Moving WiFi networks on MacOS El Capitain

[Jonathan Cohn]

My response in-line to your two possibilities, I am doing this with 10.11.5 



Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Jul 23, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This process works in El Capitan.  Using VO-comma and VO-period will work if 
> you're only moving it up or down within the visible networks.  Once the 
> original network goes out of the scroll list, VO can't seem to handle it.  
> Using the old fashioned Drag & Drop method will work though.  So,

1. Interact with table vo-, says not draggable. Interact with the name of the 
network, and vo-comma still says not draggable.

> for example, I have a network named Chateau Lacombe way down my list and I 
> wish to move it much higher in the priority, then I'd navigate to the Chateau 
> Lacombe network (Press VO-cmd-f5 if your cursors aren't following each 
> other), then VO-shift-cmd-space to activate the mouse down action, then VO-up 
> to the item I'd like it to be above, press VO-cmd-f5 to route the mouse to 
> the VO-cursor and finally press VO-shift-cmd-space to drop it.  Often, you 
> need to use the VO-cmd-f5 after the drag as I've found that the cursors don't 
> follow I was able to drag items this way. Though the vo-F5 would not verify 
> that I was in the right place. One thing I did find to help, was to not have 
> the item selected before doing the mouse down, in this way VO would indicate 
> that the appropriate item was selected.


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Searching the yelp app for a location other than your current one

[Mary Otten]

I have the latest version of the yelp app on my iPhone. I have been trying to 
figure out a way to search for restaurants in a town other than the one where I 
am currently located. There is a locations under settings. But there's no way 
to add a location. And there doesn't seem to be a way to change what comes up 
in the search, which always wants to search where you are currently. What am I 
missing?
Mary


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Re: remote access

[Jonathan Cohn]

I guess back to my mac does not relay sound? 

I wonder, the terminal command "open" I believe can take a phone URL so perhaps 
something like 
open -a FaceTime  tel://411 

could work in terminal?
You would have to look up the actual URL for reference to phone applications.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim
>  
> Yeah I know of things like that but how if you are trying to work on a remote 
> machine of your own  can you then enable a facetime connection without 
> someone there to enable the connection?
>  
> How possible would it be to enable a facetime session via a terminal 
> connection / from the command line.
>  
> Now that’s one to get the cogs turning over!
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>  ] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 3:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: remote access
>  
> Simon,
>  
> As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
> session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
> have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the FaceTime 
> session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed through to 
> your computer.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>  
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.
>  
> Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  control 
> another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?
>  
> I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
> But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is an 
> option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of thing 
> is not up to scratch as yet.
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> Any information would be appreciate.
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FileMaker, or other database?

[John JD Denning]

Hello all, does anybody have any experience using FileMaker, or another 
database on the Mac? Are you still use FileMaker a lot. But not for the last 
several years and not at all with voiceover. Curious to know if it plays well 
with voiceover.

Thanks

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Re: adding location to FB pages

[Vaughn Brown]

Hi,
Thank you Tim. The problem is the accessibility. I do appreciate your
looking into it though.
Vaughn

On 7/23/16, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Not sure exactly what you're trying to do here.  Locations are usually for
> posting or checking in etc as FaceBook uses your iPhone's Location Services
> to determine where you are.  If you're wanting an address displayed on your
> page, look at this link:
>
> https://www.google.ca/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=add+location+to+my+facebook+page&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=AoaTV9TZB_LL8Aecu4OoDA
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 12:28, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> Hope all is well. I am trying to add a location to my FB page. Already
> I tried setting the page as local businesses and company/organization.
> All I can see is a website address field but no location field. I read
> some FB help tips but the steps are not accessible. I've tried using
> my Windows with Jaws, Mac with Voiceover, and apparently the pages
> settings cannot be modified from the iPhone --  that is what it states
> on the FB help center page.
>
> Your insight would be very helpful.
>
> Best,
> Vaughn
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Re: requesting help with running OS 10 as a virtual machine using VMware Fusion

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Could you start voice over with terminal? I believe there is a u option to open 
to start a utility. It would be especially useful if you can ssh into the vm to 
do this. Then you could create a alias to get environment started.  

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Michael Marshall  
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> hey,
> i tried that and it just turns the host back on.
> i just do not know how to get the host keyboard to work with the virtual 
> environment.
>> On 23 Jul 2016, at 5:04 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:
>> 
>> I haven’t tried boot mac os from fusion, but I would want to turn VO off on 
>> the host before attempting to enable it on the guest.  
>> 
>> Chris
>>> On Jul 21, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Michael Marshall  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hey all,
>>> i have a question about making a mac virtual machine in VMware Fusion.
>>> i can set up the Machine by selecting my file to install.
>>> the problem is how do i make my mac keyboard control the virtual machine 
>>> instead of the main system?
>>> i hit tab in VMware Fusion but cmd f5 just starts VO on the physical 
>>> machine.
>>> has anyone had any luck getting this to work?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Michael
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Transferring from External Hard Drive Question

[Arnold Schmidt]

If I have some data on an external hard drive that was copied to that drive 
from a windows computer, can I connect it to my mac mini and transfer that 
data? I know windows and mac use different hard drive formats. Thanks for any 
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Re: Suggestions for development environment for coding in Perl/Python and R

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I wonder if emacsSpeak would work. For the minimally scripting i have done 
recently, I have used TextEdit with smart quotes turned off. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

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> blind programmer community. I will be analyzing genomics data generated in my 
> lab so I will be using Perl or Python for scripting and R for statistical 
> analysis. I had used Emacs in the past but with the Mac keyboard I thought 
> VI/VIM might be easier to use. Are there any extensions or configurations 
> that anyone has made to make them more VO friendly? I am also open to other 
> development environments, as I will have some learning curve in picking up VI 
> so I will just as well consider something else. 
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Re: Transferring from External Hard Drive Question

[jeff `greene]

Hi Arnold,
Yes you can. If the drive is formatted ntfs your mac won't be able to
write to it unless you have a program like paragon ntfs for mac. But,
you can connect the drive and copy and paste from it to your mac.
Jeff


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> from a windows computer, can I connect it to my mac mini and transfer that
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Re: Twitter links

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Hi. I was referring to the Twitter app on the Mac. Sorry I didn't make it clear 
in my original message. 

> On 23 Jul 2016, at 15:49, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Usually, you can double-tap on the tweet which will bring up a more detailed 
> version of it.  The link should be accessible within that page.  Double-tap 
> on it to activate, then Close/Back your way out to go to the main list of 
> tweets.
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> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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Re: Twitter links

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

Interact with the individual tweet and then find the text with the link.  
Activating that should open it, but I had trouble with some tweets.  Consider 
using Nightowl instead.  It is missing some of the newer features but works 
well and all you have to do to open a link is press l.

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> Hi. I was referring to the Twitter app on the Mac. Sorry I didn't make it 
> clear in my original message. 
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>> On 23 Jul 2016, at 15:49, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Usually, you can double-tap on the tweet which will bring up a more detailed 
>> version of it.  The link should be accessible within that page.  Double-tap 
>> on it to activate, then Close/Back your way out to go to the main list of 
>> tweets.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 08:40, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
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>> Hi. How do I open links within a tweet as I'm using the native Twitter app. 
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Re: Moving WiFi networks on MacOS El Capitain

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Jonathan,

Interesting.  I was doing this with 10.11.6.  I find the VO-comma/Vo-period 
method unreliable, but the old fashioned Drag & Drop works every time.  Did it 
work for you?  I was a little confused by your response knowing whether it 
worked, or whether you were just having issues with it announcing properly.  
Sorry.  Regarding if it its announcing properly, do you have VO set to announce 
what's under the Mouse Cursor?  That setting is in the VO Utility, Verbosity in 
the Announcements tab.  I have mine checked and the delay set to zero.

Later...


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 23, 2016, at 12:30, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

My response in-line to your two possibilities, I am doing this with 10.11.5 



Best wishes,

Jonathan



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> This process works in El Capitan.  Using VO-comma and VO-period will work if 
> you're only moving it up or down within the visible networks.  Once the 
> original network goes out of the scroll list, VO can't seem to handle it.  
> Using the old fashioned Drag & Drop method will work though.  So,

1. Interact with table vo-, says not draggable. Interact with the name of the 
network, and vo-comma still says not draggable.

> for example, I have a network named Chateau Lacombe way down my list and I 
> wish to move it much higher in the priority, then I'd navigate to the Chateau 
> Lacombe network (Press VO-cmd-f5 if your cursors aren't following each 
> other), then VO-shift-cmd-space to activate the mouse down action, then VO-up 
> to the item I'd like it to be above, press VO-cmd-f5 to route the mouse to 
> the VO-cursor and finally press VO-shift-cmd-space to drop it.  Often, you 
> need to use the VO-cmd-f5 after the drag as I've found that the cursors don't 
> follow I was able to drag items this way. Though the vo-F5 would not verify 
> that I was in the right place. One thing I did find to help, was to not have 
> the item selected before doing the mouse down, in this way VO would indicate 
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Re: requesting help with running OS 10 as a virtual machine using VMware Fusion

[Michael Marshall]

I have no idea how to even communicate with a virtual machine using my keyboard.
Windows is seamless but the mac? no go.
> On 24 Jul. 2016, at 5:58 am, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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> Could you start voice over with terminal? I believe there is a u option to 
> open to start a utility. It would be especially useful if you can ssh into 
> the vm to do this. Then you could create a alias to get environment started.  
> 
> Best wishes,
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>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Michael Marshall  
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>> hey,
>> i tried that and it just turns the host back on.
>> i just do not know how to get the host keyboard to work with the virtual 
>> environment.
>>> On 23 Jul 2016, at 5:04 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I haven’t tried boot mac os from fusion, but I would want to turn VO off on 
>>> the host before attempting to enable it on the guest.  
>>> 
>>> Chris
 On Jul 21, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Michael Marshall  
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 i have a question about making a mac virtual machine in VMware Fusion.
 i can set up the Machine by selecting my file to install.
 the problem is how do i make my mac keyboard control the virtual machine 
 instead of the main system?
 i hit tab in VMware Fusion but cmd f5 just starts VO on the physical 
 machine.
 has anyone had any luck getting this to work?
 
 thanks
 
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Latency issues with VMware Fusion

[Joshua Tubbs]

Hi all,
As expected with a Virtual Machine, I have sound lag and also key delay due to 
this.
I tried to change the sound buffer as Bryan Smart’s website suggests, but when 
I tried to change audio, I had no sound and I’m not sure, when the VMware Tools 
installer opens, if it did open, what the screen is, if I have to click next or 
anything like that to install.
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Listing the contents of folders on my hard drives

[Kristeen Hughes]

In Windows, there were programs that would list the individual files in a 
folder. Is there a way to do this on the Mac. Some of my folders have thousands 
of files in them, and if I lose them, which may have just happened, it would be 
nice to have a document listing their contents, so they could be rebuilt.

Thanks for any information.

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Re: Listing the contents of folders on my hard drives

[E.T.]

   I did it once and think all I did was select all, copy and paste 
into TextEdit using plain text format.


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On 7/23/2016 8:26 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote:

In Windows, there were programs that would list the individual files in a 
folder. Is there a way to do this on the Mac. Some of my folders have thousands 
of files in them, and if I lose them, which may have just happened, it would be 
nice to have a document listing their contents, so they could be rebuilt.

Thanks for any information.

Kristeen
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