Re: Accessibility in Inbox by Gmail - Inbox by Gmail Help

[Andrew Lamanche]

Thanks for making this podcast.  Kind and generous!

Andrew
> On 19 Apr 2016, at 04:33, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> I made a walkthrough of iOS Inbox by Gmail app with VoiceOver: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vr16vu8ivbg5ho3/Walkthrough%20of%20iOS%20Inbox%20with%20VoiceOver.m4a?dl=0
>  
> 
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 10:15 AM Kevin Chao  > wrote:
> On the Amtrak item, use period shortcut to move it to Trips bundle. It'll 
> learn this pattern and auto-bundle Amtrak tickets in Trips.
> The issue in Chrome is El Capitan specific, as bundles works in Yosemite and 
> Mavericks. 
> What do you feel would make this as productive as mail.app? There are lots of 
> keyboard shortcuts. 
> iOS app is great and is what I've exclusively used for several months. 
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 9:42 AM Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> I attempted to use this with both Chrome and Safari. In Safari it works, but 
> I think the JAVAScript is running the CPU hard. In Chrome, I could not get it 
> to speak the bundle I was in, and so it seemed totally useless. Also, while 
> Inbox did grab my hotel reservation and put it into trips, it did not seem to 
> recognise the Amtrak ticket associated with the same trip.
> 
> Thanks for providing information on this, though I think we still need to see 
> a few updates before it will be as efficient as a Native client.
> 
> Has anybody tried the IOS version?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Apr 2016, at 21:01, Kevin Chao > > wrote:
>> 
> 
>> 
>> https://support.google.com/inbox/answer/6083800 
>> 
>> 
>> Computer accessibility
>> 
>> Inbox is compatible with the following screen readers:
>> 
>> Operating system Screen reader   Browser
>> Chrome OSChromeVox   Chrome
>> Microsoft WindowsNVDAFirefox
>> Mac OS X YosemiteVoiceOver   Safari
>> When you open Inbox for the first time, Inbox provides introductory 
>> information about how to use the application. You can navigate through these 
>> introductory screens with the left and right arrow keys.
>> 
>> Compose and reply
>> 
>> To reply to an email, start typing in the Reply box below the email. To get 
>> to more options, like changing the recipients, editing quoted text, or 
>> replying inline, just expand the compose window by selecting Pop out reply .
>> 
>> Keyboard shortcuts
>> 
>> For the best experience, turn on keyboard shortcuts in Inbox. The following 
>> table contains some useful shortcuts. To find a complete list while you're 
>> using Inbox, hold Shift and press ? on your keyboard. Learn how to turn on 
>> keyboard shortcuts .
>> 
>> Shortcut Action
>> ?Open keyboard shortcuts help
>> cCompose
>> tCreate a reminder
>> /Search
>> Home Navigate to first item in main list
>> j or right arrow Navigate to next item in main list
>> k or left arrow  Navigate to previous item in main list
>> nNavigate to next message in an open thread
>> pNavigate to previous message in an open thread
>> o or Enter   Open focused item
>> Esc  Close
>> Shift + Esc  Focus main window
>> Shift + mFocus main menu
>> Shift + bFocus notifications
>> xSelect or deselect an item in the main list
>> Shift + xSelect multiple items
>> zUndo last action
>>  
>> Tip: To improve keyboard navigation, you can make notifications stay on 
>> screen for 30 seconds. Then you can press Shift + b to navigate to the 
>> notification and take an action. To make notifications stay on the screen 
>> longer:
>> 
>> Open Inbox .
>> In the top left, go to the main menu .
>> Choose  Settings at the bottom.
>> Choose Other.
>> Check the box next to "Make notifications stay on the screen longer."
>> Select Done.
>> 
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RE: Iphone Se.

[Simon Fogarty]

The price in NZ dollars is pretty good, approx. $750 for the 16 gig model.
The sound quality I heard for the 5 minutes I was playing with one was ok, but 
it wasn't in my hands long enough to really judge, but it was a great phone 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 3:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone Se.

What’s the price compared to the 6S/6S+, and how would you compare its sound 
quality?
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Yes I was playing with one just after they wer released.
> 
> They are by feel just an iPhone 5s etc.
> They feel the same shape and size but he speed is majorly increased and but 
> otherwise it's just the iPhone as we know it.
> 
> I had to help a colleague set her's up from her iPhone 5 backup.
> 
> 
> And for the price, I have to say I wouldn't argue about it, it appears to be 
> a great little phone 
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Sunday, 17 April 2016 4:36 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Iphone Se.
> 
> Hi!
> Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
> I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i really 
> want a small phone.
> As small as possible.
> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some testing.
> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also the 
> way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to 
> Android and all i ask for.
> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it 
> seems to be.
> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
> But i don’t use that myself.
> So whats your thoughts?
> How about battery life?
> How about audio quality and such?
> I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
> But i want to hear others opinion first.
> Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
> /A
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RE: Reference Citation Suggestions

[Simon Fogarty]

I've used end note with windows / jaws, and have to get my hands dirty with it 
still through work, but I'm not a user of it if I can help it.

 From memory I'm pretty sure voiceover worked ok with it but it's the office 
produvt that you will have to really check on 
But if I remember I'll check endnote x7 accessibility with vo tomorrow when I'm 
at work.



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On Behalf Of Emilio Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 5:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reference Citation Suggestions

Hello everyone,

I am using voiceover on a iMac 2010 27-inch model.
I am curious to know what others in the academic realm are using to create 
reference lists for research papers?
Currently, I create my bibliographies manually, which is tedious and quite 
arduous.
I use APA 6th (ed) as my citation guide of choice.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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RE: can't get mac to work with micro Sd card

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Christina,

 Any idea what format the card is in?

Are you able to see it in disk utilities?

If you can see it in disk utils then you should be able to format it or 
partition it and then format it.



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On Behalf Of Christina C.
Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 5:53 AM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: can't get mac to work with micro Sd card

Hi all,

I have a Mac and it has an SD card slot. I put the micro SD card inside the 
adapter that came with it to make the micro card standard size. I put the 
memory card in the slot and I get a message that says something like the card 
you inserted cannot be read by this computer. I am then given a choice to 
ignore, eject or initialize. I tried the initialize option thinking it would 
give me a way to format the card. I believe disk utility opened. I could not 
figure out anything past that. In the table i made sure and select the card and 
then went to the main part of the window and I just got information about my 
hard drive and not the card. The GB of memory did not match the card. I did 
google how to format the card but It was not fruitful. I need to use this card 
with my stream. I tried formatting the card with the stream but that didn’t 
help. The stream can read the card but my Mac cannot. I am running latest 
version of El Capitan.

Thanks,
Christina

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RE: Reference Citation Suggestions

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Anne,

Thanks for adding this,

It is good information for me for a work point of view that end note works with 
Pages as well as MS office.

 I will have to have a play around with pages and endnote at work.

 It will give our students another option to document writing and referencing.

Cheers,


Simon F


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 6:49 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Reference Citation Suggestions

Hello Emilio,,

You can use the application Endnote with Pages. I’ve only tested the trial 
version as it’s too expensive for me and I have no use for it except for 
teaching others to use it. So here’s what we found.
EndNote is easy to install, but there are minor problems with its splash 
screens vaunting its new features. The app itself is accessible. You can import 
PDFs from a documents subfolder and it will store them as a library. Searching 
the library is easy, though you have to press VO-Space on criterion fields 
before you can type into them.
>From within Pages, press Cmd-Shift-e to insert a citation, and you get a 
>comprehensive dialogue box enabling you to carry out searches of your own 
>library, and format the citation you wish. EndNote inserts and maintains a 
>bibliography section in your document.
The EndNote website contains lots of information.
Unfortunately, EndNote costs $249.95! However, there are group, student, 
institutional and volume discounts available.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 18 Apr 2016, at 19:06, Emilio Hernandez  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am using voiceover on a iMac 2010 27-inch model.
> I am curious to know what others in the academic realm are using to create 
> reference lists for research papers?
> Currently, I create my bibliographies manually, which is tedious and quite 
> arduous.
> I use APA 6th (ed) as my citation guide of choice.
> 
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
> 
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RE: Iphone Se.

[Simon Fogarty]

Scott, interesting you say this,
The colleague I helped setup their SE last week went from an iPhone 5 to the SE 
and made that choice due to her purse / wallet thing.

The iPhone 5 would fit but the 6 wouldn’t therefore she could only go for the 
SE as it would fit the purse also.

Women, they’re an odd breed of creature.

Simon F


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 7:28 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone Se.

I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under stand women 
wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense but I don’t understand 
the use case for most sited people or most people in general wanting a smaller 
phone.  I would think more screen is better.
I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here this seems 
like a much larger market than I expected.

On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu 
mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Hello Andrew.

You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists that take 
anything to do with blind technology or any main stream technology.  If you 
care to write me off list, I can give you the details.
On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche 
mailto:ioani...@me.com>> wrote:

That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got it because I 
wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was important.  But now that iphone 
SE has the same chip as 6S, I am really tempted to get the SE.  It's a shame 
Apple did not announce the SE sooner as I wouldn't have spent so much money on 
the 6S.  I'm not good at selling things off so I will probably have to keep the 
6S as a backup phone.

Andrew
On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali 
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and audio is 
also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more responsive then my 
6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key in that phone, look vice  
it's completely like a five s

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On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg 
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
Hi!
Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i really want 
a small phone.
As small as possible.
I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some testing.
But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also the 
way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to 
Android and all i ask for.
Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it seems 
to be.
The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
But i don’t use that myself.
So whats your thoughts?
How about battery life?
How about audio quality and such?
I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
But i want to hear others opinion first.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
/A

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RE: can't get mac to work with micro Sd card

[Simon Fogarty]

Christina,

 See if the sd card shows in disk utilities and then format it as a fat32 
format if the content you are putting on it is a smaller file size than 4gig 
then you shouldn't have an issue with your sd card.

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On Behalf Of Christina C.
Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 8:25 AM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: can't get mac to work with micro Sd card

Ok, I will try looking at it again now that I have a little bit of info from 
you all. :) The SD C\card is not even showing up in Finder just as FYI. :) 

The max the stream claims to handle is 64 GB. That is what size my card has and 
the stream is having no problems with the card and telling me my capacity is 60 
GB or something like that. :) 

I am only having problems with it on my late 2011 Mac. I think it’s a 
formatting issue but I haven’t figured out how to format this card. I will try 
again in disk utility.

Christina


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Re: Iphone Se.

[Scott Davert]

I think that not everyone likes even the larger screen. I'm a braille
display user, for example, so I'm happier with the smaller screen
size. I'm also not a huge BSI user, so that is another reason I'd like
the larger screen thrown out the window. Battery life? I purchased a
case with a battery onboard for $50, and can get 2 days out of the SE
while constantly running bluetooth for braille. So while the battery
life would be better on the Plus, I have spent much less money to get
a battery case and still get the smaller form factor. Not that I think
there's anything wrong with the larger phones, I'm just explaining the
appeal for me personally.

Scott

On 4/19/16, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> Scott, interesting you say this,
> The colleague I helped setup their SE last week went from an iPhone 5 to the
> SE and made that choice due to her purse / wallet thing.
>
> The iPhone 5 would fit but the 6 wouldn’t therefore she could only go for
> the SE as it would fit the purse also.
>
> Women, they’re an odd breed of creature.
>
> Simon F
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 7:28 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone Se.
>
> I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under stand women
> wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense but I don’t understand
> the use case for most sited people or most people in general wanting a
> smaller phone.  I would think more screen is better.
> I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here this seems
> like a much larger market than I expected.
>
> On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu
> mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello Andrew.
>
> You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists that take
> anything to do with blind technology or any main stream technology.  If you
> care to write me off list, I can give you the details.
> On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche
> mailto:ioani...@me.com>> wrote:
>
> That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got it because I
> wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was important.  But now that
> iphone SE has the same chip as 6S, I am really tempted to get the SE.  It's
> a shame Apple did not announce the SE sooner as I wouldn't have spent so
> much money on the 6S.  I'm not good at selling things off so I will probably
> have to keep the 6S as a backup phone.
>
> Andrew
> On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali
> mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and audio is
> also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more responsive then
> my 6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key in that phone, look
> vice  it's completely like a five s
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg
> mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
> Hi!
> Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
> I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i really
> want a small phone.
> As small as possible.
> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some
> testing.
> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also the
> way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to
> Android and all i ask for.
> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it
> seems to be.
> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
> But i don’t use that myself.
> So whats your thoughts?
> How about battery life?
> How about audio quality and such?
> I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
> But i want to hear others opinion first.
> Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
> /A
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Re: Reference Citation Suggestions

[David Chittenden]

I used endnote a few years ago. It had some formatting issues on the mac that 
it did not have on windows. I do not know how it is now.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Apr 2016, at 21:52, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anne,
> 
> Thanks for adding this,
> 
> It is good information for me for a work point of view that end note works 
> with Pages as well as MS office.
> 
> I will have to have a play around with pages and endnote at work.
> 
> It will give our students another option to document writing and referencing.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon F
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 6:49 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: Reference Citation Suggestions
> 
> Hello Emilio,,
> 
> You can use the application Endnote with Pages. I’ve only tested the trial 
> version as it’s too expensive for me and I have no use for it except for 
> teaching others to use it. So here’s what we found.
> EndNote is easy to install, but there are minor problems with its splash 
> screens vaunting its new features. The app itself is accessible. You can 
> import PDFs from a documents subfolder and it will store them as a library. 
> Searching the library is easy, though you have to press VO-Space on criterion 
> fields before you can type into them.
> From within Pages, press Cmd-Shift-e to insert a citation, and you get a 
> comprehensive dialogue box enabling you to carry out searches of your own 
> library, and format the citation you wish. EndNote inserts and maintains a 
> bibliography section in your document.
> The EndNote website contains lots of information.
> Unfortunately, EndNote costs $249.95! However, there are group, student, 
> institutional and volume discounts available.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 18 Apr 2016, at 19:06, Emilio Hernandez  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I am using voiceover on a iMac 2010 27-inch model.
>> I am curious to know what others in the academic realm are using to create 
>> reference lists for research papers?
>> Currently, I create my bibliographies manually, which is tedious and quite 
>> arduous.
>> I use APA 6th (ed) as my citation guide of choice.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>> 
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Re: Iphone Se.

[Scott]

The story about the bending was fake and discredited  more than a year ago.

Frankly, consumer reports did a test where they conducted a bend test and the 
iPhone 6+ was just a hit piece.

more rugged than competing models.  So no, that was
> On Apr 18, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Jessica Moss >

> junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I can honestly, especially if it has the same battery life as a larger phone, 
> so it wouldn’t be so hard to carry around.  Mom told me when the 6+ came out, 
> and I hadn’t had a chance to see it yet, and didn’t until a friend at an nfb 
> event showed me there’s, Mom told me when she saw it advertised “ it looks 
> silly,” and “it looks like a tablet,” and about how someone who got one who 
> got one put their’s into their pocket and it actually bent.
>   The only reason I decided myself against getting one at the time, aside 
> from not being able to preview it, thanx to the sprint store not having one 
> on display, was because I couldn’t afford it, let alone the 6, so had to 
> settle for the 5S, and the buy-back plan, so got the phone for next to 
> nothing.
>> On Apr 18, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Scott > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under stand women 
>> wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense but I don’t understand 
>> the use case for most sited people or most people in general wanting a 
>> smaller phone.  I would think more screen is better.
>> I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here this seems 
>> like a much larger market than I expected.
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Andrew.
>>> 
>>> You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists that take 
>>> anything to do with blind technology or any main stream technology.  If you 
>>> care to write me off list, I can give you the details.
 On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche >>> > wrote:
 
 That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got it because I 
 wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was important.  But now that 
 iphone SE has the same chip as 6S, I am really tempted to get the SE.  
 It's a shame Apple did not announce the SE sooner as I wouldn't have spent 
 so much money on the 6S.  I'm not good at selling things off so I will 
 probably have to keep the 6S as a backup phone.
 
 Andrew
> On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali  > wrote:
> 
> Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and audio 
> is also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more responsive 
> then my 6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key in that phone, 
> look vice  it's completely like a five s
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
>> I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i 
>> really want a small phone.
>> As small as possible.
>> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some 
>> testing.
>> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also 
>> the way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from 
>> apple to Android and all i ask for.
>> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
>> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good 
>> it seems to be.
>> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
>> But i don’t use that myself.
>> So whats your thoughts?
>> How about battery life?
>> How about audio quality and such?
>> I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
>> But i want to hear others opinion first.
>> Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
>> /A
>> 
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Re: Iphone Se.

[Scott]

See that’s where we differ I suppose. If I were going to solve that problem it 
would be a larger purse to hold the larger phone, but that’s me.  Not much of a 
purse man myself haha.  So it’s easy for me to say this at a distance not 
having to cary one.

I’m sure the good folks at Burkin among others will be happy to sell you 
something to hold that 6S+ if you have the money.:)

> On Apr 19, 2016, at 5:56 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Scott, interesting you say this,
> The colleague I helped setup their SE last week went from an iPhone 5 to the 
> SE and made that choice due to her purse / wallet thing.
> 
> The iPhone 5 would fit but the 6 wouldn’t therefore she could only go for the 
> SE as it would fit the purse also.
> 
> Women, they’re an odd breed of creature.
> 
> Simon F
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Scott
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 7:28 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Iphone Se.
> 
> I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under stand women 
> wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense but I don’t understand 
> the use case for most sited people or most people in general wanting a 
> smaller phone.  I would think more screen is better.
> I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here this seems 
> like a much larger market than I expected.
> 
> On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew.
> 
> You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists that take 
> anything to do with blind technology or any main stream technology.  If you 
> care to write me off list, I can give you the details.
> On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche  > wrote:
> 
> That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got it because I 
> wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was important.  But now that 
> iphone SE has the same chip as 6S, I am really tempted to get the SE.  It's a 
> shame Apple did not announce the SE sooner as I wouldn't have spent so much 
> money on the 6S.  I'm not good at selling things off so I will probably have 
> to keep the 6S as a backup phone.
> 
> Andrew
> On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali  > wrote:
> 
> Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and audio is 
> also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more responsive then 
> my 6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key in that phone, look 
> vice  it's completely like a five s
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
> I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i really 
> want a small phone.
> As small as possible.
> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some testing.
> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also the 
> way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to 
> Android and all i ask for.
> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it 
> seems to be.
> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
> But i don’t use that myself.
> So whats your thoughts?
> How about battery life?
> How about audio quality and such?
> I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
> But i want to hear others opinion first.
> Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
> /A
> 
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Re: Iphone Se.

[Devin Prater]

The next time I get a phone, I’ll get a plus model. I use BSI a lot, so I’d 
love to be able to type the FOR sign without having having to do crazy things 
with my finger movements. I mean, I can handle it. I’ve played fighting games 
almost all my life, so I can deal with the finger tricks, but I’d prefer to 
just not have to deal with it.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com



> On Apr 19, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Scott  wrote:
> 
> See that’s where we differ I suppose. If I were going to solve that problem 
> it would be a larger purse to hold the larger phone, but that’s me.  Not much 
> of a purse man myself haha.  So it’s easy for me to say this at a distance 
> not having to cary one.
> 
> I’m sure the good folks at Burkin among others will be happy to sell you 
> something to hold that 6S+ if you have the money.:)
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 5:56 AM, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Scott, interesting you say this,
>> The colleague I helped setup their SE last week went from an iPhone 5 to the 
>> SE and made that choice due to her purse / wallet thing.
>>  
>> The iPhone 5 would fit but the 6 wouldn’t therefore she could only go for 
>> the SE as it would fit the purse also.
>>  
>> Women, they’re an odd breed of creature.
>>  
>> Simon F
>>  
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  ] On Behalf Of Scott
>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 7:28 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Iphone Se.
>>  
>> I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under stand women 
>> wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense but I don’t understand 
>> the use case for most sited people or most people in general wanting a 
>> smaller phone.  I would think more screen is better.
>> I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here this seems 
>> like a much larger market than I expected.
>>  
>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hello Andrew.
>>  
>> You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists that take 
>> anything to do with blind technology or any main stream technology.  If you 
>> care to write me off list, I can give you the details.
>> On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche > > wrote:
>>  
>> That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got it because I 
>> wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was important.  But now that 
>> iphone SE has the same chip as 6S, I am really tempted to get the SE.  It's 
>> a shame Apple did not announce the SE sooner as I wouldn't have spent so 
>> much money on the 6S.  I'm not good at selling things off so I will probably 
>> have to keep the 6S as a backup phone.
>>  
>> Andrew
>> On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and audio is 
>> also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more responsive then 
>> my 6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key in that phone, look 
>> vice  it's completely like a five s
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>> DISCLAIMER:
>> "The information contained in this message is confidential and may be 
>> protected by legal privilege. It is intended only for 
>> the person(s) named as addressee. The dissemination, distribution,copying or 
>> disclosure of this message, or its contents is 
>> strictly prohibited unless authorized by the sender. If you have received 
>> this message in error, please notify to the sender at the above address and 
>> delete the email."
>> 
>> On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
>> I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i really 
>> want a small phone.
>> As small as possible.
>> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some 
>> testing.
>> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also the 
>> way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to 
>> Android and all i ask for.
>> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
>> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it 
>> seems to be.
>> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
>> But i don’t use that myself.
>> So whats your thoughts?
>> How about battery life?
>> How about audio quality and such?
>> I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
>> But i want to hear others opinion first.
>> Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
>> /A
>> 
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Re: Iphone Se.

[E.T.]

   Good god is that what the world is coming to? Buying a phone to fit 
a purse instead of buying  a purse to fit the phone? Let me off at the 
next stop please, get me away from this craziness. (smiles)


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/19/2016 7:25 AM, Scott wrote:

See that’s where we differ I suppose. If I were going to solve that
problem it would be a larger purse to hold the larger phone, but that’s
me.  Not much of a purse man myself haha.  So it’s easy for me to say
this at a distance not having to cary one.

I’m sure the good folks at Burkin among others will be happy to sell you
something to hold that 6S+ if you have the money.:)


On Apr 19, 2016, at 5:56 AM, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Scott, interesting you say this,
The colleague I helped setup their SE last week went from an iPhone 5
to the SE and made that choice due to her purse / wallet thing.
The iPhone 5 would fit but the 6 wouldn’t therefore she could only go
for the SE as it would fit the purse also.
Women, they’re an odd breed of creature.
Simon F
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]*On
Behalf Of*Scott
*Sent:*Tuesday, 19 April 2016 7:28 AM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Subject:*Re: Iphone Se.
I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under stand
women wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense but I
don’t understand the use case for most sited people or most people in
general wanting a smaller phone.  I would think more screen is better.
I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here this
seems like a much larger market than I expected.

On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
Hello Andrew.
You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists
that take anything to do with blind technology or any main stream
technology.  If you care to write me off list, I can give you the
details.

On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche mailto:ioani...@me.com>> wrote:
That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got
it because I wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was
important.  But now that iphone SE has the same chip as 6S, I
am really tempted to get the SE.  It's a shame Apple did not
announce the SE sooner as I wouldn't have spent so much money
on the 6S.  I'm not good at selling things off so I will
probably have to keep the 6S as a backup phone.
Andrew

On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very
good and audio is also good, speed is very nice sometime i
thought it is more responsive then my 6s plus, and you can
also end calls from power key in that phone, look vice
 it's completely like a five s

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On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big
for me as i really want a small phone.
As small as possible.
I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i
have done some testing.
But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way
talkback works and also the way many people on the
Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to
Android and all i ask for.
Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really
excited about how good it seems to be.
The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
But i don’t use that myself.
So whats your thoughts?
How about battery life?
How about audio quality and such?
I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
But i want to hear others opinion first.

How to convert videos taken with the phone to optimise them for you tube.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hi guys. 
So I have some videos recorded with my Iphone and I have transfer ed those to 
my mac with the Image capture application. 
Some of those videos are very large in size more than 1.5 gigs. 
So I want to use hand break to convert them to smaller size, say about 300 MB 
so that I will be able to upload them to you tube easily. 
However, I am lost in the many options that hand break offers. 
Has anybody out there done this before and if yes, can you help me to choose 
the right options for this task? 
Any help is very much appreciated. 

Nektarios. 

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Re: Iphone Se.

[Jessica Moss]

Oh wow, how did that story come into play?
> On Apr 19, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Scott  wrote:
> 
> The story about the bending was fake and discredited  more than a year ago.
> 
> Frankly, consumer reports did a test where they conducted a bend test and the 
> iPhone 6+ was just a hit piece.
> 
> more rugged than competing models.  So no, that was
>> On Apr 18, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Jessica Moss >
> 
>> junglebookfa...@gmail.com > wrote:
>> 
>> I can honestly, especially if it has the same battery life as a larger 
>> phone, so it wouldn’t be so hard to carry around.  Mom told me when the 6+ 
>> came out, and I hadn’t had a chance to see it yet, and didn’t until a friend 
>> at an nfb event showed me there’s, Mom told me when she saw it advertised “ 
>> it looks silly,” and “it looks like a tablet,” and about how someone who got 
>> one who got one put their’s into their pocket and it actually bent.
>>   The only reason I decided myself against getting one at the time, aside 
>> from not being able to preview it, thanx to the sprint store not having one 
>> on display, was because I couldn’t afford it, let alone the 6, so had to 
>> settle for the 5S, and the buy-back plan, so got the phone for next to 
>> nothing.
>>> On Apr 18, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Scott >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under stand 
>>> women wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense but I don’t 
>>> understand the use case for most sited people or most people in general 
>>> wanting a smaller phone.  I would think more screen is better.
>>> I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here this 
>>> seems like a much larger market than I expected.
>>> 
 On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello Andrew.
 
 You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists that take 
 anything to do with blind technology or any main stream technology.  If 
 you care to write me off list, I can give you the details.
> On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche  > wrote:
> 
> That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got it because I 
> wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was important.  But now that 
> iphone SE has the same chip as 6S, I am really tempted to get the SE.  
> It's a shame Apple did not announce the SE sooner as I wouldn't have 
> spent so much money on the 6S.  I'm not good at selling things off so I 
> will probably have to keep the 6S as a backup phone.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and audio 
>> is also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more 
>> responsive then my 6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key in 
>> that phone, look vice  it's completely like a five s
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>> On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
>>> I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i 
>>> really want a small phone.
>>> As small as possible.
>>> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some 
>>> testing.
>>> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and 
>>> also the way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement 
>>> from apple to Android and all i ask for.
>>> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
>>> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good 
>>> it seems to be.
>>> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
>>> But i don’t use that myself.
>>> So whats your thoughts?
>>> How about battery life?
>>> How about audio quality and such?
>>> I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
>>> But i want to hear others opinion first.
>>> Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
>>> /A
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Re: Iphone Se.

[E.T.]

Jessica,
   The web is a playground for many people who have nothing better to 
do than concoct stories and get their 15 seconds of fame.


   You need to take a great deal of what you hear and see with salt, 
lots of salt.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/19/2016 8:09 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Oh wow, how did that story come into play?

On Apr 19, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Scott mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:

The story about the bending was fake and discredited  more than a year
ago.

Frankly, consumer reports did a test where they conducted a bend test
and the iPhone 6+ was just a hit piece.

more rugged than competing models.  So no, that was

On Apr 18, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Jessica Moss >



junglebookfa...@gmail.com > wrote:

I can honestly, especially if it has the same battery life as a
larger phone, so it wouldn’t be so hard to carry around.  Mom told me
when the 6+ came out, and I hadn’t had a chance to see it yet, and
didn’t until a friend at an nfb event showed me there’s, Mom told me
when she saw it advertised “ it looks silly,” and “it looks like a
tablet,” and about how someone who got one who got one put their’s
into their pocket and it actually bent.
  The only reason I decided myself against getting one at the time,
aside from not being able to preview it, thanx to the sprint store
not having one on display, was because I couldn’t afford it, let
alone the 6, so had to settle for the 5S, and the buy-back plan, so
got the phone for next to nothing.

On Apr 18, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Scott mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:

I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under
stand women wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense
but I don’t understand the use case for most sited people or most
people in general wanting a smaller phone.  I would think more
screen is better.
I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here
this seems like a much larger market than I expected.


On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Hello Andrew.

You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists that
take anything to do with blind technology or any main stream
technology.  If you care to write me off list, I can give you the
details.

On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche mailto:ioani...@me.com>> wrote:

That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got it
because I wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was
important.  But now that iphone SE has the same chip as 6S, I am
really tempted to get the SE.  It's a shame Apple did not announce
the SE sooner as I wouldn't have spent so much money on the 6S.
 I'm not good at selling things off so I will probably have to
keep the 6S as a backup phone.

Andrew

On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good
and audio is also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it
is more responsive then my 6s plus, and you can also end calls
from power key in that phone, look vice  it's completely like a
five s

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On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg
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Hi!
Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as
i really want a small phone.
As small as possible.
I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done
some testing.
But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works
and also the way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling
the movement from apple to Android and all i ask for.
Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about
how good it seems to be.
The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
But i don’t use that myself.
So whats your thoughts?
How about battery life?
How about audio quality and such?
I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
But i want to hear others opinion first.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
/A

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Re: Iphone Se.

[Scott]

Yeah it was just an apple hater trying to create buzz.  Sometimes it’s real 
like the antenna situation and sometimes it’s fake like this one.  A lot of 
people tried to independently verify the bending and couldn’t.



> On Apr 19, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Oh wow, how did that story come into play?
>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Scott > > wrote:
>> 
>> The story about the bending was fake and discredited  more than a year ago.
>> 
>> Frankly, consumer reports did a test where they conducted a bend test and 
>> the iPhone 6+ was just a hit piece.
>> 
>> more rugged than competing models.  So no, that was
>>> On Apr 18, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Jessica Moss >
>> 
>>> junglebookfa...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can honestly, especially if it has the same battery life as a larger 
>>> phone, so it wouldn’t be so hard to carry around.  Mom told me when the 6+ 
>>> came out, and I hadn’t had a chance to see it yet, and didn’t until a 
>>> friend at an nfb event showed me there’s, Mom told me when she saw it 
>>> advertised “ it looks silly,” and “it looks like a tablet,” and about how 
>>> someone who got one who got one put their’s into their pocket and it 
>>> actually bent.
>>>   The only reason I decided myself against getting one at the time, aside 
>>> from not being able to preview it, thanx to the sprint store not having one 
>>> on display, was because I couldn’t afford it, let alone the 6, so had to 
>>> settle for the 5S, and the buy-back plan, so got the phone for next to 
>>> nothing.
 On Apr 18, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Scott >>> > wrote:
 
 I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under stand 
 women wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense but I don’t 
 understand the use case for most sited people or most people in general 
 wanting a smaller phone.  I would think more screen is better.
 I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here this 
 seems like a much larger market than I expected.
 
> On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew.
> 
> You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists that take 
> anything to do with blind technology or any main stream technology.  If 
> you care to write me off list, I can give you the details.
>> On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche > > wrote:
>> 
>> That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got it because 
>> I wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was important.  But now 
>> that iphone SE has the same chip as 6S, I am really tempted to get the 
>> SE.  It's a shame Apple did not announce the SE sooner as I wouldn't 
>> have spent so much money on the 6S.  I'm not good at selling things off 
>> so I will probably have to keep the 6S as a backup phone.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and 
>>> audio is also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more 
>>> responsive then my 6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key 
>>> in that phone, look vice  it's completely like a five s
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi!
 Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
 I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i 
 really want a small phone.
 As small as possible.
 I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some 
 testing.
 But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and 
 also the way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the 
 movement from apple to Android and all i ask for.
 Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
 So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good 
 it seems to be.
 The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
 But i don’t use that myself.
 So whats your thoughts?
 How about battery life?
 How about audio quality and such?

Re: Iphone Se.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, it fits in my jeans pocket but forget to sit down with the phone in your 
pocket then.
So i am happy i got the SE.
/A
> On 18 Apr 2016, at 23:34, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> No, it doesn't fit in most pockets. Maybe if your guy and you have super big 
> pockets OK. But I know plenty of women whose pockets would not hold that big 
> phone.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, actually I don't like the smaller form factor I only got the SE 
>> because people were reporting better performance than the 6s+ and nothing I 
>> use regularly really needs the silly 3d touch gimmick as far as I could tell 
>> so it seemed silly to get that device.  Never mind that the so-called larger 
>> phone isn't significantly larger since it still fits in most pockets. 
>> Certainly these hands are too big to use a phone with one hand anyway 
>> whatever the size so it was all performance and battery life and such that I 
>> was going for. I had upgrade credit for the SE for free whereas the 6s+ was 
>> $400 plus a contract and I didn't think the extra feature was that important.
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Re: Iphone Se.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, it might sound strange but i have big hands.
Or i have quite long fingers.
But its very hard for me for some reason to type on a bigger screen.
I don’t know why but thats the case.
SO now i have ordered an Iphone S E on a phone plan here in Sweden.
I have to wait because they are out of phones already.
I don’t know why sighted would like this phone.
Maybe because its so powerful and small.
But if you for example use to be a gamer on the Iphone i would guess a 6 S or 6 
S plus would be better.
/A
> On 18 Apr 2016, at 21:28, Scott  wrote:
> 
> I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under stand women 
> wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense but I don’t understand 
> the use case for most sited people or most people in general wanting a 
> smaller phone.  I would think more screen is better.
> I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here this seems 
> like a much larger market than I expected.
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Andrew.
>> 
>> You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists that take 
>> anything to do with blind technology or any main stream technology.  If you 
>> care to write me off list, I can give you the details.
>>> On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got it because I 
>>> wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was important.  But now that 
>>> iphone SE has the same chip as 6S, I am really tempted to get the SE.  It's 
>>> a shame Apple did not announce the SE sooner as I wouldn't have spent so 
>>> much money on the 6S.  I'm not good at selling things off so I will 
>>> probably have to keep the 6S as a backup phone.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and audio 
 is also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more responsive 
 then my 6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key in that phone, 
 look vice  it's completely like a five s
 
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> Hi!
> Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
> I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i really 
> want a small phone.
> As small as possible.
> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some 
> testing.
> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also 
> the way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from 
> apple to Android and all i ask for.
> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it 
> seems to be.
> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
> But i don’t use that myself.
> So whats your thoughts?
> How about battery life?
> How about audio quality and such?
> I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
> But i want to hear others opinion first.
> Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
> /A
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Re: Iphone Se.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I will not go to a 64 model and stick to the larger phones because of the 
larger 128.  May be the next meaning the 7 will have the 256.  I wonder what 
else the 7 will have to make people want it like crazy!

Kawal.
> On 19 Apr 2016, at 15:25, Scott  wrote:
> 
> See that’s where we differ I suppose. If I were going to solve that problem 
> it would be a larger purse to hold the larger phone, but that’s me.  Not much 
> of a purse man myself haha.  So it’s easy for me to say this at a distance 
> not having to cary one.
> 
> I’m sure the good folks at Burkin among others will be happy to sell you 
> something to hold that 6S+ if you have the money.:)
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 5:56 AM, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Scott, interesting you say this,
>> The colleague I helped setup their SE last week went from an iPhone 5 to the 
>> SE and made that choice due to her purse / wallet thing.
>>  
>> The iPhone 5 would fit but the 6 wouldn’t therefore she could only go for 
>> the SE as it would fit the purse also.
>>  
>> Women, they’re an odd breed of creature.
>>  
>> Simon F
>>  
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  ] On Behalf Of Scott
>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 7:28 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Iphone Se.
>>  
>> I’m surprised there’s such interest in the small phone.  I under stand women 
>> wanting them with small hands, that makes total sense but I don’t understand 
>> the use case for most sited people or most people in general wanting a 
>> smaller phone.  I would think more screen is better.
>> I’m glad though Apple misfiling this need, from the response here this seems 
>> like a much larger market than I expected.
>>  
>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hello Andrew.
>>  
>> You can sell your I phone 6 S as there are various blind lists that take 
>> anything to do with blind technology or any main stream technology.  If you 
>> care to write me off list, I can give you the details.
>> On 17 Apr 2016, at 12:38, Andrew Lamanche > > wrote:
>>  
>> That's so good to hear.  I find my 6S too big and I only got it because I 
>> wanted to have Alex as my voice so the chip was important.  But now that 
>> iphone SE has the same chip as 6S, I am really tempted to get the SE.  It's 
>> a shame Apple did not announce the SE sooner as I wouldn't have spent so 
>> much money on the 6S.  I'm not good at selling things off so I will probably 
>> have to keep the 6S as a backup phone.
>>  
>> Andrew
>> On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:46, jaan ali > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and audio is 
>> also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more responsive then 
>> my 6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key in that phone, look 
>> vice  it's completely like a five s
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>> On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
>> I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i really 
>> want a small phone.
>> As small as possible.
>> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some 
>> testing.
>> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also the 
>> way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to 
>> Android and all i ask for.
>> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
>> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it 
>> seems to be.
>> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
>> But i don’t use that myself.
>> So whats your thoughts?
>> How about battery life?
>> How about audio quality and such?
>> I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
>> But i want to hear others opinion first.
>> Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
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phones in your pants pocket

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Just don’t let them go through the laundry like I did with my old Nokia E 72.
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Re: phones in your pants pocket

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Hi!
Well, i pushed my Nokia N91 down in the dishing water and it was to late when i 
reacted to pick it up.
/A
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A chance to win some accessible iOS Apps for Free

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi everyone, Mushroom FM, an Internet radio station staffed by blind 
broadcasters, is celebrating its sixth birthday this weekend. There's a big 
prize pool which includes a lot of iOS and Apple-related things to give away, 
including multiple copies of KNFB Reader and other paid apps. If you're on a 
tight budget, you may be able to get an app you've always wanted.
I'm leaving out prizes that wouldn't be on topic for this list, but here are 
some Apple things being given away. In every case, there are multiple copies.

KNFB Reader is a mobile app that reads print aloud. It’s easy to use. Take a 
photo and the app reads the text aloud in clear synthetic speech. And it’s fast 
– the print will be yours almost instantaneously. 

Worried about getting the right photo? The app will help you. It has text 
detection so you know you have the printed side of the page. The app also helps 
you get the whole page photographed with tilt and viewfinder assist. Just a tap 
of the finger and the print is yours.

KNFB Reader can read receipts. You will know what has been put on your card at 
restaurants, stores, or in taxis. 

KNFB reader can read package labels. Wonder what came in the mail? Need 
nutritional information from your breakfast cereal? KNFB Reader captures it all.

Is your screen reader not cooperating? KNFB Reader can capture print from your 
computer or tablet screen. Photograph the screen and know exactly what those 
error messages say.

Deep Sleep and relaxation apps and MP3 downloads from Andrew Johnson. Andrew's 
vast selection of relaxation apps have helped many people change their lives in 
many ways. We have a very generous quantity of MP3 downloads and apps to give 
away that could make a big difference to you getting a good, refreshing rest.

Unlimited game play and full upgrades to the game of your choice with Blindfold 
Games. Does Marty at Blindfold Games ever sleep? He just keeps churning out 
these amazing, addictive games. Card games, racing games, action games, he's 
got it all covered with fully accessible games that are fun to play for blind 
and sighted people alike. We have a great many chances over the weekend for you 
to win unlimited game play and full upgrades to the Blindfold Game of your 
choice.

The Downcast podcast app for both iOS and Mac. You won't at all be feeling 
downcast about the great accessibility of this app. If you like a powerful 
podcast app that not only lets you play your favourite podcasts but will also 
let you load your favourite audiobooks and other audio files in it for great 
listening, you can't go past Downcast. It has a bunch of advanced features that 
make this the swiss army knife of podcast listening. And if you have both the 
iOS and mac versions, they sync beautifully thanks to iCloud support.

The Fantastical calendar app for iPhone and iPad. It's called Fantastical for 
good reason. Type in, or dictate, your appointment in natural language, and 
Fantastical fills in all the appointment fields by itself. For example, type 
"Listen to the Mushroom FM birthday weekend at 3 PM on Saturday", and it's 
done. See your reminders all within the app too. It integrates with your iOS 
Calendar, so you can still check your appointments with Siri and the native 
Calendar app. Have an Apple Watch? It's there too.

The Mystic Access Tutorial of your choice. Mystic Access have just released an 
excellent Voice Dream Reader tutorial, and they have much more as well.

Talking LG Bluetooth Headsets from SpeedDots. Listen to music, podcasts, or 
make and receive phone calls with ease, comfort, and exceptional sound with 
this stereo Bluetooth headset.

Tempered glass tactile screen protectors from SpeedDots. Available for your 
iPhone 6/6s, or iPhone 6+/6s+, type with confidence and efficiency with a range 
of screen protector to suit your requirements.

Tweetings Pro iOS Twitter client. Fully accessible and with the power of a 
desktop Twitter client on your iDevice, Tweetings is simple to use, yet gives 
you all the power you need to be a Twitter ninja. Handy actions implemented for 
VoiceOver makes it super easy to swipe to reply, retweet and more.

The Grain Science synthesiser app for musicians. Musicians, geek out with this 
one. Grain Science offers a versatile synthesis engine. You can create 
everything from crunchy basslines to spooky soundscapes. With granular 
synthesis, you can do magical things with sound. Tear it into pieces then put 
it back together to make something new. Each of the 16 voices has two grain 
units, which can be blended to create morphing, layered or complex modulated 
instruments. It's AudioBus aware, so you can connect it with other apps. .

Audio books and eBooks from Mosen Consulting. Mosen Consulting offers eBooks 
and audiobooks on a range of topics, including using iOS, Twitter, the Amadeus 
Pro audio app for Mac, recording quality technology demos and more.

To win any of these prizes, you'll need to be registered and listeni

Re: can't get mac to work with micro Sd card

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

You can get 32 GB SD-HC cards very cheaply nowadays, in packs.  You might just 
pick up a pack of them, and simply spread your content over the cards for your 
Stream.  That’s a sure-fire way to make it work, and you don’t have to worry 
about whether the particular card of a higher capacity might or might not work.

Still, nothing says proof like seeing it work, so, when you get the time, give 
your new card another spin after formatting it fully with your Mac.  I’m pretty 
sure it will fail, but still, give it a try.

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