date:20160416

I have set up my activity for mail in VO Utility running the latest version of 
El Cap and it does not seem to stick as I like trackpad to be turned off and 
verbosity to be set to low so I avoid hearing disclosure triangle. Any way the 
activity seems to work for a few minutes then it stops working I do not like 
how the assign activity button reads apps and when I click it mail does have a 
check next to it. Any one getting activities to work let me know if I am doing 
something wrong. Thanks,

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Re: Silencing 'disclosure triangle' (was: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of)

Hey all,

Yes it was working for me but I think it was because I had set my verbosity to 
low for a bit and I just found out that activities as a whole are not even 
working for me so sorry about the incorrect info. If you do set verbosity to 
low it will get rid of the announcement of disclosure triangle but not sure why 
the activity will not stay set.
> On Apr 15, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Mail is quite interesting with this. In the messages view the disclosure 
> triangle will not speak if overall verbosity is set to low, even if 
> disclosure triangle verbosity is set to high.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2016, at 07:07, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I just tried this as well. I set disclosure triangle to 'custom', and 
>> unchecked 'name' and 'type' in the table. I hit OK, closed the VO Utility, 
>> and even turned VO off and back on. In Mail (the only place I have ready 
>> access to disclosure triangles), it didn't do anything, sadly. Did I miss a 
>> step?
>>> On Apr 15, 2016, at 06:31, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Brian,
>>> 
>>> I followed your steps in terms of attempting to turn off the " disclosure 
>>> triangle" VoiceOver statement by setting the custom control to low.  
>>> However, for me, at least, doing so had no effect in the Apple Mail 
>>> application.  
>>> 
>>> Are you using the Standard view in Mail? Or the Classic view.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:55 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of
>>> 
>>> Hey thought of this after posting in case anyone else is monitoring. I did 
>>> notice in verbosity under custom there is now away to thankfully stop every 
>>> mail thread saying disclosure triangle as I believe if you click the 
>>> control box and set that one to low it goes away. So nice to not be hearing 
>>> disclosure triangle anymore. Now if we can just get rid of the one row 
>>> added in Night Owl and Mail.
>>> On Apr 14, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Brian Fischler >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much John that solved it. Even us trainers do not think of 
>>> everything all the time. Wow was that driving me bonkers. Great to have it 
>>> for newbies but great to get it to shut up.
>>> On Apr 14, 2016, at 10:23 AM, John Panarese >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brian,
>>>  That is actually the VoiceOver hints you are hearing. . Turn off the hints 
>>> in the hints tab of verbosity and that should go away.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2016, at 2:02 AM, Brian Fischler >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> New to El Cap and the verbosity of browsing in safari is driving me nuts. I 
>>> have my verbosity turned to low and tried custom verbosity but nothing I do 
>>> gets rid of safari constantly saying when I am on a link you are on a link 
>>> inside of a cell. At times instead of reading the link the stupid message 
>>> you are on a link inside of a cell is read instead absolutely destroying my 
>>> productivity. Is there any way to get rid of this? Another one is you are 
>>> currently on text inside of cell. That’s great I know that and do not need 
>>> to be told this every time I move some where in safari. This is awful.
>>> 
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Re: Silencing 'disclosure triangle' (was: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of)

2016-04-16 Thread John Panarese

  Were these activities you imported from previous VO settings or ones you 
created from scratch?

Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT

> On Apr 16, 2016, at 12:34 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> Yes it was working for me but I think it was because I had set my verbosity 
> to low for a bit and I just found out that activities as a whole are not even 
> working for me so sorry about the incorrect info. If you do set verbosity to 
> low it will get rid of the announcement of disclosure triangle but not sure 
> why the activity will not stay set.
>> On Apr 15, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Mail is quite interesting with this. In the messages view the disclosure 
>> triangle will not speak if overall verbosity is set to low, even if 
>> disclosure triangle verbosity is set to high.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2016, at 07:07, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I just tried this as well. I set disclosure triangle to 'custom', and 
>>> unchecked 'name' and 'type' in the table. I hit OK, closed the VO Utility, 
>>> and even turned VO off and back on. In Mail (the only place I have ready 
>>> access to disclosure triangles), it didn't do anything, sadly. Did I miss a 
>>> step?
 On Apr 15, 2016, at 06:31, M. Taylor >>> > wrote:

 Hello Brian,

 I followed your steps in terms of attempting to turn off the " disclosure 
 triangle" VoiceOver statement by setting the custom control to low.  
 However, for me, at least, doing so had no effect in the Apple Mail 
 application.  

 Are you using the Standard view in Mail? Or the Classic view.

 Mark

 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:55 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

 Subject: Re: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of

 Hey thought of this after posting in case anyone else is monitoring. I did 
 notice in verbosity under custom there is now away to thankfully stop 
 every mail thread saying disclosure triangle as I believe if you click the 
 control box and set that one to low it goes away. So nice to not be 
 hearing disclosure triangle anymore. Now if we can just get rid of the one 
 row added in Night Owl and Mail.
 On Apr 14, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Brian Fischler >>> > wrote:

 Thank you so much John that solved it. Even us trainers do not think of 
 everything all the time. Wow was that driving me bonkers. Great to have it 
 for newbies but great to get it to shut up.
 On Apr 14, 2016, at 10:23 AM, John Panarese >>> > wrote:

 Hi Brian,
  That is actually the VoiceOver hints you are hearing. . Turn off the 
 hints in the hints tab of verbosity and that should go away.

 Take Care

 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 

 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT

 On Apr 14, 2016, at 2:02 AM, Brian Fischler >>> > wrote:

 Hey all,

 New to El Cap and the verbosity of browsing in safari is driving me nuts. 
 I have my verbosity turned to low and tried custom verbosity but nothing I 
 do gets rid of safari constantly saying when I am on a link you are on a 
 link inside of a cell. At times instead of reading the link the stupid 
 message you are on a link inside of a cell is read instead absolutely 
 destroying my productivity. Is there any way to get rid of this? Another 
 one is you are currently on text inside of cell. That’s great I know that 
 and do not need to be told this every time I move some where in safari. 
 This is awful.

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Re: Iphone Se.

2016-04-16 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Anders,
I haven't had my hands on that iPhone SE yet. I too like smaller phones. The 
only thing I have heard about audio is that some people are complaining about 
bad call quality on Bluetooth. It only affects the SE, apparently, and 
supposedly Apple is looking into it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
> I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i really 
> want a small phone.
> As small as possible.
> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some testing.
> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also the 
> way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to 
> Android and all i ask for.
> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it 
> seems to be.
> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
> But i don’t use that myself.
> So whats your thoughts?
> How about battery life?
> How about audio quality and such?
> I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
> But i want to hear others opinion first.
> Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
> /A
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Iphone Se.

2016-04-16 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i really want 
a small phone.
As small as possible.
I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some testing.
But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also the 
way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to 
Android and all i ask for.
Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it seems 
to be.
The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
But i don’t use that myself.
So whats your thoughts?
How about battery life?
How about audio quality and such?
I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
But i want to hear others opinion first.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
/A

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Re: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of

Hey Mark,

Ends up the reason it went away was because I had verbosity set to low for a 
moment, as I did not realize my activity for mail is not even working. So sorry 
about that, but you can get rid of hearing it by setting verbosity to low.
> On Apr 15, 2016, at 6:31 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> I followed your steps in terms of attempting to turn off the " disclosure 
> triangle" VoiceOver statement by setting the custom control to low.  However, 
> for me, at least, doing so had no effect in the Apple Mail application.  
> 
> Are you using the Standard view in Mail? Or the Classic view.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of
> 
> Hey thought of this after posting in case anyone else is monitoring. I did 
> notice in verbosity under custom there is now away to thankfully stop every 
> mail thread saying disclosure triangle as I believe if you click the control 
> box and set that one to low it goes away. So nice to not be hearing 
> disclosure triangle anymore. Now if we can just get rid of the one row added 
> in Night Owl and Mail.
> On Apr 14, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much John that solved it. Even us trainers do not think of 
> everything all the time. Wow was that driving me bonkers. Great to have it 
> for newbies but great to get it to shut up.
> On Apr 14, 2016, at 10:23 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
>  That is actually the VoiceOver hints you are hearing. . Turn off the hints 
> in the hints tab of verbosity and that should go away.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 14, 2016, at 2:02 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> New to El Cap and the verbosity of browsing in safari is driving me nuts. I 
> have my verbosity turned to low and tried custom verbosity but nothing I do 
> gets rid of safari constantly saying when I am on a link you are on a link 
> inside of a cell. At times instead of reading the link the stupid message you 
> are on a link inside of a cell is read instead absolutely destroying my 
> productivity. Is there any way to get rid of this? Another one is you are 
> currently on text inside of cell. That’s great I know that and do not need to 
> be told this every time I move some where in safari. This is awful.
> 
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Re: Do Activities Not Work in El Cap

2016-04-16 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Brian,

Activities seem to be working for me in El Cap. I too have a Mail activity with 
low verbosity. The only annoying thing is the time it takes to switch 
activities.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 16 Apr 2016, at 18:17, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> I have set up my activity for mail in VO Utility running the latest version 
> of El Cap and it does not seem to stick as I like trackpad to be turned off 
> and verbosity to be set to low so I avoid hearing disclosure triangle. Any 
> way the activity seems to work for a few minutes then it stops working I do 
> not like how the assign activity button reads apps and when I click it mail 
> does have a check next to it. Any one getting activities to work let me know 
> if I am doing something wrong. Thanks,
> 
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Re: Do Activities Not Work in El Cap

Hi ann thanks for confirming. Can you let me know in your activity for mail 
does it say mail where in VO utility it has what program the activity is 
assigned to or does it read apps and you have to hit the pop up button to get 
to where mail is checked? Thanks,
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> Activities seem to be working for me in El Cap. I too have a Mail activity 
> with low verbosity. The only annoying thing is the time it takes to switch 
> activities.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Apr 2016, at 18:17, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> I have set up my activity for mail in VO Utility running the latest version 
>> of El Cap and it does not seem to stick as I like trackpad to be turned off 
>> and verbosity to be set to low so I avoid hearing disclosure triangle. Any 
>> way the activity seems to work for a few minutes then it stops working I do 
>> not like how the assign activity button reads apps and when I click it mail 
>> does have a check next to it. Any one getting activities to work let me know 
>> if I am doing something wrong. Thanks,
>> 
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Re: Silencing 'disclosure triangle' (was: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of)

Ones created from scratch. Again I got the mail activity working now but it 
seems to stop working after a little bit very strange. I have deleted the 
activity and created it again only to have the same thing occur.
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 12:36 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   Were these activities you imported from previous VO settings or ones you 
> created from scratch?
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
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>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 12:34 PM, Brian Fischler > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Yes it was working for me but I think it was because I had set my verbosity 
>> to low for a bit and I just found out that activities as a whole are not 
>> even working for me so sorry about the incorrect info. If you do set 
>> verbosity to low it will get rid of the announcement of disclosure triangle 
>> but not sure why the activity will not stay set.
>>> On Apr 15, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mail is quite interesting with this. In the messages view the disclosure 
>>> triangle will not speak if overall verbosity is set to low, even if 
>>> disclosure triangle verbosity is set to high.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 15 Apr 2016, at 07:07, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I just tried this as well. I set disclosure triangle to 'custom', and 
 unchecked 'name' and 'type' in the table. I hit OK, closed the VO Utility, 
 and even turned VO off and back on. In Mail (the only place I have ready 
 access to disclosure triangles), it didn't do anything, sadly. Did I miss 
 a step?
> On Apr 15, 2016, at 06:31, M. Taylor  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> I followed your steps in terms of attempting to turn off the " disclosure 
> triangle" VoiceOver statement by setting the custom control to low.  
> However, for me, at least, doing so had no effect in the Apple Mail 
> application.  
> 
> Are you using the Standard view in Mail? Or the Classic view.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid 
> of
> 
> Hey thought of this after posting in case anyone else is monitoring. I 
> did notice in verbosity under custom there is now away to thankfully stop 
> every mail thread saying disclosure triangle as I believe if you click 
> the control box and set that one to low it goes away. So nice to not be 
> hearing disclosure triangle anymore. Now if we can just get rid of the 
> one row added in Night Owl and Mail.
> On Apr 14, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Brian Fischler  > wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much John that solved it. Even us trainers do not think of 
> everything all the time. Wow was that driving me bonkers. Great to have 
> it for newbies but great to get it to shut up.
> On Apr 14, 2016, at 10:23 AM, John Panarese  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
>  That is actually the VoiceOver hints you are hearing. . Turn off the 
> hints in the hints tab of verbosity and that should go away.
> 
> 
> Take Care
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> On Apr 14, 2016, at 2:02 AM, Brian Fischler  > wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> New to El Cap and the verbosity of browsing in safari is driving me nuts. 
> I have my verbosity turned to low and tried custom verbosity but nothing 
> I do gets rid of safari constantly saying when I am on a link you are on 
> a link inside of a cell. At times instead of reading the link the stupid 
> message you are on a link inside of a cell is read instead absolutely 
> destroying my productivity. Is there any way to get rid of this? Anothe

Re: Do Activities Not Work in El Cap

2016-04-16 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Brian,

I have to click the popup menu to see that Mail is checked.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:10, Brian Fischler  wrote:
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> Hi ann thanks for confirming. Can you let me know in your activity for mail 
> does it say mail where in VO utility it has what program the activity is 
> assigned to or does it read apps and you have to hit the pop up button to get 
> to where mail is checked? Thanks,
>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Brian,
>> 
>> Activities seem to be working for me in El Cap. I too have a Mail activity 
>> with low verbosity. The only annoying thing is the time it takes to switch 
>> activities.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Apr 2016, at 18:17, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have set up my activity for mail in VO Utility running the latest version 
>>> of El Cap and it does not seem to stick as I like trackpad to be turned off 
>>> and verbosity to be set to low so I avoid hearing disclosure triangle. Any 
>>> way the activity seems to work for a few minutes then it stops working I do 
>>> not like how the assign activity button reads apps and when I click it mail 
>>> does have a check next to it. Any one getting activities to work let me 
>>> know if I am doing something wrong. Thanks,
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Hi guys:
I’m trying to update my resume using Marsedit. When I go to add and insert 
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Favourites, (Not Sidebar,) Issue

Hi again all,

When I explained my sidebar issue, it wasn't the sidebar that was the issue. It 
was the favourites within the sidebar that isn't expanding. Is there any 
command to expand it? The right arrow key isnt doing anything.
All tips are welcome.
Thanks, and have a great day.

From,

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Re: Favourites, (Not Sidebar,) Issue

2016-04-16 Thread John Panarese

   When you are on Favorites in the Sidebar, press Control-Option-back slash. 
This expands or collapses disclosure triangles.


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> Hi again all,
> 
> When I explained my sidebar issue, it wasn't the sidebar that was the issue. 
> It was the favourites within the sidebar that isn't expanding. Is there any 
> command to expand it? The right arrow key isnt doing anything.
> All tips are welcome.
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Re: Iphone Se.

2016-04-16 Thread jaan ali

Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and audio is 
also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more responsive then my 
6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key in that phone, look vice  
it's completely like a five s

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> want a small phone.
> As small as possible.
> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some testing.
> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also the 
> way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to 
> Android and all i ask for.
> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it 
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> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
> But i don’t use that myself.
> So whats your thoughts?
> How about battery life?
> How about audio quality and such?
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Re: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS App on Apple TV 4th Generation

2016-04-16 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

Hello Mark.

Do Audible distribute free audible books now?  Not been on their website for 
some time as I did not renew my plan that I use to have as I got fed up with 
them.  Just curious to know if they have free audible books now.  Not been on 
their website since the RNIB in the UK made their Talking book service library 
free to blind users.

Kawal.
> On 15 Apr 2016, at 20:25, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am cross-posting this question.
> 
> Does anyone know how to delete an audio book from the Audible app on the
> latest version of tvOS?
> 
> My situation is as follows:
> 
> Because I have a legacy Audible account, one that has not yet been linked to
> Amazon, I can only login to my account using a username and password instead
> of an email address and password.  At present, the tvOS version of the app
> does not support this.  
> 
> Yesterday, after opening the Audible app in tvOS, I went to the accounts
> tab.  To my surprise, even when not logged in, one can browse and download
> free audio books.  I took advantage of this feature and downloaded one
> title.  Everything works perfectly accept that I cannot discover how to
> remove the book.  
> 
> Any and all replies welcomed.
> 
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Re: Favourites, (Not Sidebar,) Issue

Thanks so much, it worked.
Take care.

Dora Speck

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>When you are on Favorites in the Sidebar, press Control-Option-back slash. 
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>> Hi again all,
>> 
>> When I explained my sidebar issue, it wasn't the sidebar that was the issue. 
>> It was the favourites within the sidebar that isn't expanding. Is there any 
>> command to expand it? The right arrow key isnt doing anything.
>> All tips are welcome.
>> Thanks, and have a great day.
>> 
>> From,
>> 
>> Dora Speck
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RE: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS App on Apple TV 4th Generation

2016-04-16 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Kawal,

Well, as it turns out, I was mistaken.  The app I downloaded on my Apple TV was 
not from Audible, but rather from AudioBooks.com.  

However, to answer your question, yes, Audible does offer some free titles.

Mark


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On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 12:40 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS 
App on Apple TV 4th Generation

Hello Mark.

Do Audible distribute free audible books now?  Not been on their website for 
some time as I did not renew my plan that I use to have as I got fed up with 
them.  Just curious to know if they have free audible books now.  Not been on 
their website since the RNIB in the UK made their Talking book service library 
free to blind users.

Kawal.
On 15 Apr 2016, at 20:25, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this question.

Does anyone know how to delete an audio book from the Audible app on the
latest version of tvOS?

My situation is as follows:

Because I have a legacy Audible account, one that has not yet been linked to
Amazon, I can only login to my account using a username and password instead
of an email address and password.  At present, the tvOS version of the app
does not support this.  

Yesterday, after opening the Audible app in tvOS, I went to the accounts
tab.  To my surprise, even when not logged in, one can browse and download
free audio books.  I took advantage of this feature and downloaded one
title.  Everything works perfectly accept that I cannot discover how to
remove the book.  

Any and all replies welcomed.

Mark

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Re: Iphone Se.

2016-04-16 Thread Blee Blat

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10 Super Efficient Ways Inbox by Gmail Saves You Time

2016-04-16 Thread Kevin Chao

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-super-efficient-ways-inbox-gmail-saves-time/

10 Super Efficient Ways Inbox by Gmail Saves You Time

Gmail is good as ever, but could Inbox by Gmail be the better choice for you?

Inbox by Gmail is Google’s most recent approach to email organization and
management. It takes some getting used to, but if it’s capable of giving you a
simpler email workflow, it’s worth adopting. And now you don’t even need an
invite to use Inbox!

TIL you can mute in @inboxbygmail by pressing M.

— Josh Todd (@JoshTodd) April 6, 2016

To help you decide whether you should switch over to Inbox completely, we’ll
show you some of the ways in which it’ll make email better for you. But first,
let’s show you where everything is in Inbox’s interface.

Where Inbox Options Are

You’ll find all of Inbox’s options and settings in one of five locations:

The toolbar that appears when you hover over a message – This is where you’ll
find the options to pin an email, snooze it, mark it as done (or move it to the
inbox)

The pop-up menu that appears when you click on the Move to… icon (three dots
arranged vertically) in the toolbar shown above
The icon-driven menu hidden behind the Compose button – You’ll be able to see
the menu when you hover over the big red plus (+) icon at the bottom right in
Inbox
Inbox’s Settings dialog – To bring this up, click on the hamburger icon at the
top left in the Inbox interface, and in the fly-out sidebar that appears, click
on Settings

Individual bundle settings – To bring up the Settings dialog for any bundle,
hover on its link in the sidebar and click on the gear icon that appears next
to it.

Now let’s see how Inbox saves you, the user, both time and effort.

1. Turns Your Emails into To-dos

With Gmail, you can send emails as tasks to your to-do list app, but with
Inbox, your email is your to-do list. Inbox treats it as such because it
understands that most emails need you to take some kind of action.

Inbox allows you to mark emails as “done” instead of “read” or “archived”. That
may be a simple change of wording, but it does put a different spin on email
management.

I'm loving Inbox by Gmail. Making emails "actionable" made the experience
amazing for a To-Do List junkie like me – Mark "Done"#InboxbyGmail

— Ashley Mitchell (@amitchellidea) October 29, 2014

Emails that you mark as done get shunted out of your way. It’s like checking
tasks off your to-do list and is the equivalent of archiving in Gmail. You can
also pin important emails to the top of your inbox for quick access to them.

2. Sorts Email Right for You

Inbox takes the onus of sorting your email and does a pretty good job of it. It
places similar emails in groups called Bundles.

When you’re setting up Inbox for the first time, you’ll get a prompt to choose
which type of emails you’d like to see grouped into a separate bundle. Trips,
Promos, Updates, Forums, and Finance are some of the bundle types that you can
choose from.

Use the Create new… sidebar link if you’d like to create a custom bundle. You
can go back and tweak your bundle preferences anytime via Inbox settings.

3. Highlights Just the Data You Need

>From flight times to car rental info to order confirmations, Inbox is familiar
>with the kind of data that you’re usually looking for in your inbox. That’s
>why it keeps that important data highlighted at all times in scannable cards
>for easy identification.

Inbox also makes it easy to tell if an email has attachments, photos, inline
images, links to videos, etc., by making their thumbnails visible in your inbox.

If you mention a link, a phone number, or an email address while creating a
reminder in Inbox, its Assist feature brings up extra information that it
thinks you might need. We’re sharing this tweet as an example:

Another win for @inboxbygmail. I set this reminder for myself a month ago, and
Inbox knows when my pharmacy opens! pic.twitter.com/pUMliylPnc

— Danger Manley (@DangerManley) March 30, 2016

You’ll appreciate that Inbox is smart enough to not display sensitive data like
license keys in cards.

4. Speeds up Email Replies

For any email that’s currently open, Inbox lists three text snippets beneath
the message. These are replies crafted by Inbox to save you some time. Click on
any of the snippets and a new draft appears with that snippet pasted in the
body of the reply email. You can review and edit the email before you hit Send.

Inbox notes the changes you make and learns from them, crafting better response
options with each iteration. It also works its way up to more complex sentences
as you keep using the Smart Reply feature. Smart replies are available on the
web and on mobile.

The @inboxbygmail auto-replies are creepily accurate. AI is making impressive
strides. And saving me time. :-)

— Bart Verkoeijen (@bgever) April 8, 2016

5. Speeds up Searches

The problem with email searches is that you still have to look throu

Re: 10 Super Efficient Ways Inbox by Gmail Saves You Time

Thanks so much. :)
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> 
> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-super-efficient-ways-inbox-gmail-saves-time/ 
> 
> 
> 10 Super Efficient Ways Inbox by Gmail Saves You Time
> 
> Gmail is good as ever, but could Inbox by Gmail  
> be the better choice for you?
> 
> Inbox by Gmail is Google’s most recent approach to email organization and 
> management. It takes some getting used to, but if it’s capable of giving you 
> a simpler email workflow 
> , it’s 
> worth adopting. And now you don’t even need an invite to use Inbox!
> 
> TIL you can mute in @inboxbygmail  by 
> pressing M.
> 
> — Josh Todd (@JoshTodd) April 6, 2016 
> 
> To help you decide whether you should switch over to Inbox completely, we’ll 
> show you some of the ways in which it’ll make email better for you. But 
> first, let’s show you where everything is in Inbox’s interface.
> 
> Where Inbox Options Are
> 
> You’ll find all of Inbox’s options and settings in one of five locations:
> 
> The toolbar that appears when you hover over a message – This is where you’ll 
> find the options to pin an email, snooze it, mark it as done (or move it to 
> the inbox)
> 
> 
> The pop-up menu that appears when you click on the Move to… icon (three dots 
> arranged vertically) in the toolbar shown above
> The icon-driven menu hidden behind the Compose button – You’ll be able to see 
> the menu when you hover over the big red plus (+) icon at the bottom right in 
> Inbox
> Inbox’s Settings dialog – To bring this up, click on the hamburger icon at 
> the top left in the Inbox interface, and in the fly-out sidebar that appears, 
> click on Settings
> 
> 
> Individual bundle settings – To bring up the Settings dialog for any bundle, 
> hover on its link in the sidebar and click on the gear icon that appears next 
> to it.
> 
> 
> Now let’s see how Inbox saves you, the user, both time and effort.
> 
> 1. Turns Your Emails into To-dos
> 
> With Gmail, you can send emails as tasks to your to-do list 
>  app, but 
> with Inbox, your email is your to-do list. Inbox treats it as such because it 
> understands that most emails need you to take some kind of action.
> 
> Inbox allows you to mark emails as “done” instead of “read” or “archived”. 
> That may be a simple change of wording, but it does put a different spin on 
> email management.
> 
> I'm loving Inbox by Gmail. Making emails "actionable" made the experience 
> amazing for a To-Do List junkie like me – Mark "Done"#InboxbyGmail 
> 
> — Ashley Mitchell (@amitchellidea) October 29, 2014 
> 
> Emails that you mark as done get shunted out of your way. It’s like checking 
> tasks off your to-do list and is the equivalent of archiving in Gmail. You 
> can also pin important emails to the top of your inbox for quick access to 
> them.
> 
> 2. Sorts Email Right for You
> 
> Inbox takes the onus of sorting your email and does a pretty good job of it. 
> It places similar emails in groups called Bundles.
> 
> When you’re setting up Inbox for the first time, you’ll get a prompt to 
> choose which type of emails you’d like to see grouped into a separate bundle. 
> Trips, Promos, Updates, Forums, and Finance are some of the bundle types that 
> you can choose from.
> 
> 
> 
> Use the Create new… sidebar link if you’d like to create a custom bundle. You 
> can go back and tweak your bundle preferences anytime via Inbox settings.
> 
> 3. Highlights Just the Data You Need
> 
> From flight times to car rental info to order confirmations, Inbox is 
> familiar with the kind of data that you’re usually looking for in your inbox. 
> That’s why it keeps that important data highlighted at all times in scannable 
> cards for easy identification.
> 
> 
> 
> Inbox also makes it easy to tell if an email has attachments, photos, inline 
> images, links to videos, etc., by making their thumbnails visible in your 
> inbox.
> 
> 
> 
> If you mention a link, a phone number, or an email address while creating a 
> reminder in Inbox, its Assist feature brings up extra information that it 
> thinks you might need. We’re sharing this tweet as an example:
> 
> Another win for @inboxbygmail . I set this 
> reminder for myself a month ago, and Inbox knows when my pharmacy opens! 
> pic.twitter.com/pUMliylPnc 
> — Danger Manley (@DangerManley) March 30, 2016 
> 
> You’ll appreciate that Inbox is smart enough to not display sensitive data 
> like license keys

Re: Apple Pencil with VoiceOver

2016-04-16 Thread Jessica Moss

What’s an apple pencil?  This is my first time ever hearing about this.
> On Apr 15, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Shaf Patel  wrote:
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> Why are you cross posting?
> 
> On 4/16/2016 3:04 AM, shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Anyone manage to get the Apple Pencil working with VoiceOver?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Regards
>> Joanne
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Iphone Se.

2016-04-16 Thread Jessica Moss

OK, looks like I missed the latest news, what’s the IPhone CE, and when was it 
released?
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Re: Iphone Se.

2016-04-16 Thread gs

You didn't miss anything. There is no iPhone CE. It was never released. There 
is an iPhone SE but probably better just to do a web search.



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OK, looks like I missed the latest news, what’s the IPhone CE, and when was it 
released?
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:
> 
> I just upgraded to an iPhone SE. Only had it for a day but the battery life 
> and quality for calls was very good so far and it's quite speedy. I was going 
> to get the 6s+ but it didn't seem worth the trouble for 3D touch. But this 
> works out rather nicely for the short time since I had it.
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Re: Apple Pencil with VoiceOver

2016-04-16 Thread Ricardo Walker

The Apple pencil is a stylus Apple sells that works with the iPad Pro models.

hth.
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> What’s an apple pencil?  This is my first time ever hearing about this.
>> On Apr 15, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Shaf Patel  wrote:
>> 
>> Why are you cross posting?
>> 
>> On 4/16/2016 3:04 AM, shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Anyone manage to get the Apple Pencil working with VoiceOver?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Regards
>>> Joanne
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Apple Pencil with VoiceOver

2016-04-16 Thread Daniel Miller

The only thing the Apple pencil does in regards to voiceover is allow you to 
use the hand writing feature. Other than that, it's incredibly useless.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> The Apple pencil is a stylus Apple sells that works with the iPad Pro models.
> 
> hth.
>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> What’s an apple pencil?  This is my first time ever hearing about this.
>>> On Apr 15, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Shaf Patel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why are you cross posting?
>>> 
 On 4/16/2016 3:04 AM, shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Anyone manage to get the Apple Pencil working with VoiceOver?
 
 Thanks
 Regards
 Joanne
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apple Pencil with VoiceOver

Honestly I've never heard of it, nor do I plan on getting it.

Dora Speck

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> On Apr 16, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> The only thing the Apple pencil does in regards to voiceover is allow you to 
> use the hand writing feature. Other than that, it's incredibly useless.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
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>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
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>> The Apple pencil is a stylus Apple sells that works with the iPad Pro models.
>> 
>> hth.
>>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What’s an apple pencil?  This is my first time ever hearing about this.
 On Apr 15, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Shaf Patel  wrote:
 
 Why are you cross posting?
 
> On 4/16/2016 3:04 AM, shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all,
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> Anyone manage to get the Apple Pencil working with VoiceOver?
> 
> Thanks
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Re: Iphone Se.

2016-04-16 Thread Jessica Moss

Ok, if I need to do I web search for this, how are people on this list easily 
getting their hands on them?  I don’t get it.
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:09 PM, gs  wrote:
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> You didn't miss anything. There is no iPhone CE. It was never released. There 
> is an iPhone SE but probably better just to do a web search.
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> OK, looks like I missed the latest news, what’s the IPhone CE, and when was 
> it released?
>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:
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>> I just upgraded to an iPhone SE. Only had it for a day but the battery life 
>> and quality for calls was very good so far and it's quite speedy. I was 
>> going to get the 6s+ but it didn't seem worth the trouble for 3D touch. But 
>> this works out rather nicely for the short time since I had it.
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Re: Iphone Se.

2016-04-16 Thread gs

Sorry. I didn't understand the degree of confusion. The latest iPhone is the 
Sierra Echo.
The reason you might want to perform a web search is that you could obtain much 
more information than I am willing to type here about the latest iPhone.

iPhone SE

A big step for small.


http://www.apple.com/iphone-se/

On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Ok, if I need to do I web search for this, how are people on this list easily 
getting their hands on them?  I don’t get it.
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:09 PM, gs  wrote:
> 
> You didn't miss anything. There is no iPhone CE. It was never released. There 
> is an iPhone SE but probably better just to do a web search.
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> OK, looks like I missed the latest news, what’s the IPhone CE, and when was 
> it released?
>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:
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>> I just upgraded to an iPhone SE. Only had it for a day but the battery life 
>> and quality for calls was very good so far and it's quite speedy. I was 
>> going to get the 6s+ but it didn't seem worth the trouble for 3D touch. But 
>> this works out rather nicely for the short time since I had it.
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Re: Iphone Se.

It's a much smaller phone.  I think it's about a 4 inch, so probably about 
the size, or maybe even slightly less than the 4S used to be.


BTW, what colors does the S E come in?  And, I presume! that they will pare 
with an Apple Watch with no issue?

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Subject: Re: Iphone Se.


OK, looks like I missed the latest news, what’s the IPhone CE, and when was 
it released?

On Apr 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:

I just upgraded to an iPhone SE. Only had it for a day but the battery 
life and quality for calls was very good so far and it's quite speedy. I 
was going to get the 6s+ but it didn't seem worth the trouble for 3D 
touch. But this works out rather nicely for the short time since I had it.


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Re: Iphone Se.

Um, I think that's what Jessica meant, but just didn't know how to spell it. 
Yeah, it's S E, not C E.  I could see where you'd get confused though, as 
Voiceover is gonna say it the same way, either spelling.  LOL!

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Subject: Re: Iphone Se.


You didn't miss anything. There is no iPhone CE. It was never released. 
There is an iPhone SE but probably better just to do a web search.




On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

OK, looks like I missed the latest news, what’s the IPhone CE, and when was 
it released?

On Apr 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:

I just upgraded to an iPhone SE. Only had it for a day but the battery 
life and quality for calls was very good so far and it's quite speedy. I 
was going to get the 6s+ but it didn't seem worth the trouble for 3D 
touch. But this works out rather nicely for the short time since I had it.


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Re: Iphone Se.


Also, did they do away with the headphone jack as they said they would?
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Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Iphone Se.


Sorry. I didn't understand the degree of confusion. The latest iPhone is the 
Sierra Echo.
The reason you might want to perform a web search is that you could obtain 
much more information than I am willing to type here about the latest 
iPhone.


iPhone SE

A big step for small.


http://www.apple.com/iphone-se/

On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Ok, if I need to do I web search for this, how are people on this list 
easily getting their hands on them?  I don’t get it.

On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:09 PM, gs  wrote:

You didn't miss anything. There is no iPhone CE. It was never released. 
There is an iPhone SE but probably better just to do a web search.




On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Jessica Moss  
wrote:


OK, looks like I missed the latest news, what’s the IPhone CE, and when 
was it released?

On Apr 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:

I just upgraded to an iPhone SE. Only had it for a day but the battery 
life and quality for calls was very good so far and it's quite speedy. I 
was going to get the 6s+ but it didn't seem worth the trouble for 3D 
touch. But this works out rather nicely for the short time since I had 
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Re: Iphone Se.

2016-04-16 Thread David Chittenden

The iPhone SE is physically the iPhone 5S body. It is identical. I compared it 
with an iPhone 5S. This includes the headset jack.

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> On 17 Apr 2016, at 15:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Also, did they do away with the headphone jack as they said they would?
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> 
> Sorry. I didn't understand the degree of confusion. The latest iPhone is the 
> Sierra Echo.
> The reason you might want to perform a web search is that you could obtain 
> much more information than I am willing to type here about the latest iPhone.
> 
> iPhone SE
> 
> A big step for small.
> 
> 
> http://www.apple.com/iphone-se/
> 
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Ok, if I need to do I web search for this, how are people on this list easily 
> getting their hands on them?  I don’t get it.
>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:09 PM, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> You didn't miss anything. There is no iPhone CE. It was never released. 
>> There is an iPhone SE but probably better just to do a web search.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, looks like I missed the latest news, what’s the IPhone CE, and when was 
>> it released?
>>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just upgraded to an iPhone SE. Only had it for a day but the battery life 
>>> and quality for calls was very good so far and it's quite speedy. I was 
>>> going to get the 6s+ but it didn't seem worth the trouble for 3D touch. But 
>>> this works out rather nicely for the short time since I had it.
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