Re: Bying a new computer.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Thats true actually.

But is 256Gb enough for a ssd?
/A
> On 06 Oct 2015, at 21:24, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> 8GB of ram is more than enough, I imagine, especially on a device with a 
> solid-state drive. A Mini is a fine machine, but remember that it's not 
> portable and won't include a screen, keyboard, trackpad, or microphone.
>> On Oct 6, 2015, at 15:01, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Am about to spend money on a new Mac.
>> I have been comparing macs on app store.
>> First i really wanted a macbook Air but the i wanted my 11 inch with 8 gb 
>> ram and 512 flash disk.
>> And that will cost me more than i can afford.
>> I don’t know the differences in the processor types.
>> I mean is 2.7 much faster than 1.6 ghz.
>> Ofcourse i could reduce the flash drive to 256 gigabyte but it feels very 
>> very small.
>> My mac mini has a harddisk capacity thats 500 gb.
>> I will also use my mac for some hobby music production and i don’t know if 
>> 8gb of ram is enough for that.
>> I actually did a comparision with a mac mini 2.7 GzH with a ram amount of 16 
>> gb and a fusion drive of 1 tb.
>> Thats much  cheaper than the mac book air i put to gether on the app store 
>> app.
>> Maybe thats the way to go.
>> But if some has some ideas i’d be more than happy to hear from you.
>> Thanks.
>> /A
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Voiceover goes round and around.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I can’t for the life of me remember where this setting is:
But now voiceover doesn’t stop at the bottom of the screen.
It goes back to the top again.
But where is the settings for this?
It drives me mad!
/A

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A Dictionary Suggestion That Could Benefit Both Mac and iOS Devices

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi all. I'm almost about to go to bed, but I had a suggestion that I wanted to 
share before I signed off for the night. It's a dictionary suggestion that 
could benefit the Mac and if they implement a dictionary in iOS it could be 
beneficial there too. So anyway, getting to the suggestion. I have a bunch of 
voices from three third party developers plus the voices that Apple provide 
here on my Mac. I notice that some of them may pronounce a word properly and 
some of them don't. An Example of this is the name of the current OS for Mac, 
El Capitan. I know that Alex says the word properly, but the third party voices 
from Nuance and that don't. I know I could go into the Voiceover utility and 
type in the proper pronunciation, but why should I do this to all the voices? 
Alex says it fine so why should this change also apply to a voice that says the 
word properly? That's why I think Apple should implement an option in the OS X 
Voiceover dictionary, and later in iOS if they make a dictionary for it, that a 
pronunciation of a word be tied to a specific voice. Now if you use the popular 
Windows screenreader NVDA, you'll know what I'm talking about. There's a 
submenu in their dictionary menu where you can select if the pronunciation will 
be global or for a specific voice. This is useful if you're like me that use 
multiple Sapi voices or voices that they provide that are high in quality. If a 
setting like this were made for the Mac, if you use Alex and other voices, you 
could set this up for those voices and leave Alex alone. I hope this all makes 
sense and good night to you all.

Shawn
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Re: Voiceover goes round and around.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Anders,

The setting is the checkbox Allow cursor wrapping and it should be unchecked. 
It’s in Navigation in the VoiceOver Utility.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 7 Oct 2015, at 09:16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I can’t for the life of me remember where this setting is:
> But now voiceover doesn’t stop at the bottom of the screen.
> It goes back to the top again.
> But where is the settings for this?
> It drives me mad!
> /A
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RE: Voiceover goes round and around.

[Debbie April Yuille]

Hi Anders

You need to disable cursor wrapping. I'm afraid I can't remember exactly where 
to find it though.

Debbie

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On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2015 6:16 PM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Voiceover goes round and around.

Hi!
I can’t for the life of me remember where this setting is:
But now voiceover doesn’t stop at the bottom of the screen.
It goes back to the top again.
But where is the settings for this?
It drives me mad!
/A

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RE: Voiceover goes round and around.

[Debbie April Yuille]

Ah, thanks Anne. I had forgotten where that setting was myself.

Debbie

Debbie


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Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2015 8:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover goes round and around.

Hello Anders,

The setting is the checkbox Allow cursor wrapping and it should be unchecked. 
It’s in Navigation in the VoiceOver Utility.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 7 Oct 2015, at 09:16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I can’t for the life of me remember where this setting is:
> But now voiceover doesn’t stop at the bottom of the screen.
> It goes back to the top again.
> But where is the settings for this?
> It drives me mad!
> /A
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Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Good morning guys!

I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for Sirius XM 
Radio online streaming.

I'm navigating to:

http://player.siriusxm.com 

I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.

Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a channel of 
my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how to get the 
embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top of the html 
content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but when I interact with that 
group, I don't really see anything underneath it.  If instead of interacting, I 
simply just VO+right arrow past that item, I see a few links that just simply 
say "slash."  Hitting VO+space on them doesn't seem to be doing anything though.

I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9.  Further also for your 
knowledge, I'm using DOM navigation.  I'm not sure if that really matters, but 
anyway...

If anyone has figured out how on earth to do this, please let me know.  I'm 
about ready to report this to them as an accessibility issue, but I'd rather 
not do that until I know with utter assurance that there is absolutely no work 
around that I may just not be aware of.

Thank you guys profusely for your help.

Chris.

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Re: Bying a new computer.

[Scott Granados]

I would say more memory is always better, if you can up that to 16GB or more 
that’s probably a worth while thing if you’re going to do a lot of heavy work.  
Audio itself isn’t bad but if you run a lot of tools in parallel etc.

The SSD size depends on what you’re storing.  If you have an external drive for 
all your content, virtual machines, music, etc then for a root drive that’s 
pretty good.  If you want to use that as your drive for everything then I would 
go a bit larger if funds allow.

Thanks

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:04 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Thats true actually.
> 
> But is 256Gb enough for a ssd?
> /A
>> On 06 Oct 2015, at 21:24, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> 8GB of ram is more than enough, I imagine, especially on a device with a 
>> solid-state drive. A Mini is a fine machine, but remember that it's not 
>> portable and won't include a screen, keyboard, trackpad, or microphone.
>>> On Oct 6, 2015, at 15:01, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Am about to spend money on a new Mac.
>>> I have been comparing macs on app store.
>>> First i really wanted a macbook Air but the i wanted my 11 inch with 8 gb 
>>> ram and 512 flash disk.
>>> And that will cost me more than i can afford.
>>> I don’t know the differences in the processor types.
>>> I mean is 2.7 much faster than 1.6 ghz.
>>> Ofcourse i could reduce the flash drive to 256 gigabyte but it feels very 
>>> very small.
>>> My mac mini has a harddisk capacity thats 500 gb.
>>> I will also use my mac for some hobby music production and i don’t know if 
>>> 8gb of ram is enough for that.
>>> I actually did a comparision with a mac mini 2.7 GzH with a ram amount of 
>>> 16 gb and a fusion drive of 1 tb.
>>> Thats much  cheaper than the mac book air i put to gether on the app store 
>>> app.
>>> Maybe thats the way to go.
>>> But if some has some ideas i’d be more than happy to hear from you.
>>> Thanks.
>>> /A
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Re: Voiceover goes round and around.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
THe strange thing is that i didn’t find it there.
But i did a reset of my voiceover prefs and that solved the problem.
/A
> On 07 Oct 2015, at 13:11, Debbie April Yuille  
> wrote:
> 
> Ah, thanks Anne. I had forgotten where that setting was myself.
> 
> Debbie
> 
> Debbie
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2015 8:26 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover goes round and around.
> 
> Hello Anders,
> 
> The setting is the checkbox Allow cursor wrapping and it should be unchecked. 
> It’s in Navigation in the VoiceOver Utility.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 7 Oct 2015, at 09:16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I can’t for the life of me remember where this setting is:
>> But now voiceover doesn’t stop at the bottom of the screen.
>> It goes back to the top again.
>> But where is the settings for this?
>> It drives me mad!
>> /A
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Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Tim Emmons]

Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that group. I had 
to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible flavor of the 
player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and let me know if you have 
any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I came up with and it works 
like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Good morning guys!
> 
> I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for Sirius XM 
> Radio online streaming.
> 
> I'm navigating to:
> 
> http://player.siriusxm.com 
> 
> I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.
> 
> Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a channel 
> of my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how to get the 
> embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top of the html 
> content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but when I interact with that 
> group, I don't really see anything underneath it.  If instead of interacting, 
> I simply just VO+right arrow past that item, I see a few links that just 
> simply say "slash."  Hitting VO+space on them doesn't seem to be doing 
> anything though.
> 
> I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9.  Further also for your 
> knowledge, I'm using DOM navigation.  I'm not sure if that really matters, 
> but anyway...
> 
> If anyone has figured out how on earth to do this, please let me know.  I'm 
> about ready to report this to them as an accessibility issue, but I'd rather 
> not do that until I know with utter assurance that there is absolutely no 
> work around that I may just not be aware of.
> 
> Thank you guys profusely for your help.
> 
> Chris.
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Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Tim,

I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've been 
actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right arrowing.  In other 
words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right arrow to move through the 
page.

OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume ajuster, 
interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow keys, 
making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?

Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more clarification on 
this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Emmons 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM
  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


  Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that group. I had 
to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible flavor of the 
player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and let me know if you have 
any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I came up with and it works 
like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Good morning guys!


I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for Sirius XM 
Radio online streaming.


I'm navigating to:


http://player.siriusxm.com


I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.


Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a channel 
of my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how to get the 
embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top of the html 
content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but when I interact with that 
group, I don't really see anything underneath it.  If instead of interacting, I 
simply just VO+right arrow past that item, I see a few links that just simply 
say "slash."  Hitting VO+space on them doesn't seem to be doing anything though.


I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9.  Further also for your 
knowledge, I'm using DOM navigation.  I'm not sure if that really matters, but 
anyway...


If anyone has figured out how on earth to do this, please let me know.  I'm 
about ready to report this to them as an accessibility issue, but I'd rather 
not do that until I know with utter assurance that there is absolutely no work 
around that I may just not be aware of.


Thank you guys profusely for your help.


Chris.


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Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Tim Emmons]

Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, and don’t 
use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See where that gets 
you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd but it does work. See 
what happens with that and if you still get stuck email me back and I’ll see 
what else I might be missing. In the meantime I’m getting more coffee so that 
might help. Lol. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Tim,
>  
> I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've been 
> actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right arrowing.  In 
> other words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right arrow to move 
> through the page.
>  
> OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume ajuster, 
> interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow keys, 
> making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?
>  
> Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more clarification on 
> this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Tim Emmons 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>> 
>> Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that group. I 
>> had to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible flavor 
>> of the player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and let me know if 
>> you have any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I came up with 
>> and it works like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning guys!
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for Sirius XM 
>>> Radio online streaming.
>>> 
>>> I'm navigating to:
>>> 
>>> http://player.siriusxm.com 
>>> 
>>> I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.
>>> 
>>> Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a channel 
>>> of my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how to get 
>>> the embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top of the 
>>> html content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but when I interact 
>>> with that group, I don't really see anything underneath it.  If instead of 
>>> interacting, I simply just VO+right arrow past that item, I see a few links 
>>> that just simply say "slash."  Hitting VO+space on them doesn't seem to be 
>>> doing anything though.
>>> 
>>> I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9.  Further also for your 
>>> knowledge, I'm using DOM navigation.  I'm not sure if that really matters, 
>>> but anyway...
>>> 
>>> If anyone has figured out how on earth to do this, please let me know.  I'm 
>>> about ready to report this to them as an accessibility issue, but I'd 
>>> rather not do that until I know with utter assurance that there is 
>>> absolutely no work around that I may just not be aware of.
>>> 
>>> Thank you guys profusely for your help.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

LOL!

OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group what I push 
to mute/un? mute?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Emmons 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM
  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


  Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, and don’t 
use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See where that gets 
you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd but it does work. See 
what happens with that and if you still get stuck email me back and I’ll see 
what else I might be missing. In the meantime I’m getting more coffee so that 
might help. Lol. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Tim,

I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've been 
actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right arrowing.  In other 
words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right arrow to move through the 
page.

OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume ajuster, 
interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow keys, 
making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?

Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more clarification 
on this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Emmons
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM
  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


  Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that group. I 
had to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible flavor of 
the player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and let me know if you 
have any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I came up with and it 
works like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Good morning guys!


I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for 
Sirius XM Radio online streaming.


I'm navigating to:


http://player.siriusxm.com


I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.


Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a 
channel of my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how to 
get the embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top of the 
html content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but when I interact with 
that group, I don't really see anything underneath it.  If instead of 
interacting, I simply just VO+right arrow past that item, I see a few links 
that just simply say "slash."  Hitting VO+space on them doesn't seem to be 
doing anything though.


I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9.  Further also for 
your knowledge, I'm using DOM navigation.  I'm not sure if that really matters, 
but anyway...


If anyone has figured out how on earth to do this, please let me know.  
I'm about ready to report this to them as an accessibility issue, but I'd 
rather not do that until I know with utter assurance that there is absolutely 
no work around that I may just not be aware of.


Thank you guys profusely for your help.


Chris.


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Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Tim Emmons]

In that I think there is a mute. I haven’t looked in a little bit but I think 
it’s there right beside the volume stuff. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> LOL!
>  
> OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group what I push 
> to mute/un? mute?
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Tim Emmons 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>> 
>> Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, and 
>> don’t use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See where 
>> that gets you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd but it 
>> does work. See what happens with that and if you still get stuck email me 
>> back and I’ll see what else I might be missing. In the meantime I’m getting 
>> more coffee so that might help. Lol. 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>>  
>>> I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've been 
>>> actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right arrowing.  In 
>>> other words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right arrow to move 
>>> through the page.
>>>  
>>> OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume ajuster, 
>>> interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow keys, 
>>> making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?
>>>  
>>> Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more clarification 
>>> on this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Emmons 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM
 Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
 
 Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that group. I 
 had to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible 
 flavor of the player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and let me 
 know if you have any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I 
 came up with and it works like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Good morning guys!
> 
> I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for Sirius 
> XM Radio online streaming.
> 
> I'm navigating to:
> 
> http://player.siriusxm.com 
> 
> I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.
> 
> Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a 
> channel of my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how 
> to get the embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top 
> of the html content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but when I 
> interact with that group, I don't really see anything underneath it.  If 
> instead of interacting, I simply just VO+right arrow past that item, I 
> see a few links that just simply say "slash."  Hitting VO+space on them 
> doesn't seem to be doing anything though.
> 
> I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9.  Further also for your 
> knowledge, I'm using DOM navigation.  I'm not sure if that really 
> matters, but anyway...
> 
> If anyone has figured out how on earth to do this, please let me know.  
> I'm about ready to report this to them as an accessibility issue, but I'd 
> rather not do that until I know with utter assurance that there is 
> absolutely no work around that I may just not be aware of.
> 
> Thank you guys profusely for your help.
> 
> Chris.
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RE: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[george b]

If he keeps moving to the right he comes to a skip back then paws then skip 
forward

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Emmons
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 07:33
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

 

In that I think there is a mute. I haven’t looked in a little bit but I think 
it’s there right beside the volume stuff. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

LOL!

 

OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group what I push 
to mute/un? mute?

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Tim Emmons  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM

Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

 

Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, and don’t 
use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See where that gets 
you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd but it does work. See 
what happens with that and if you still get stuck email me back and I’ll see 
what else I might be missing. In the meantime I’m getting more coffee so that 
might help. Lol. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Tim,

 

I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've been 
actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right arrowing.  In other 
words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right arrow to move through the 
page.

 

OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume ajuster, 
interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow keys, 
making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?

 

Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more clarification on 
this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Tim Emmons  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM

Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

 

Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that group. I had 
to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible flavor of the 
player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and let me know if you have 
any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I came up with and it works 
like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Good morning guys!

 

I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for Sirius XM 
Radio online streaming.

 

I'm navigating to:

 

http://player.siriusxm.com  

 

I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.

 

Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a channel of 
my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how to get the 
embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top of the html 
content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but when I interact with that 
group, I don't really see anything underneath it.  If instead of interacting, I 
simply just VO+right arrow past that item, I see a few links that just simply 
say "slash."  Hitting VO+space on them doesn't seem to be doing anything though.

 

I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9.  Further also for your 
knowledge, I'm using DOM navigation.  I'm not sure if that really matters, but 
anyway...

 

If anyone has figured out how on earth to do this, please let me know.  I'm 
about ready to report this to them as an accessibility issue, but I'd rather 
not do that until I know with utter assurance that there is absolutely no work 
around that I may just not be aware of.

 

Thank you guys profusely for your help.

 

Chris.

 

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Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, if you can take a look when you get some free time, no rush at all, but 
I'd appreciate your help.

Thank you for helping me with this.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Emmons 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


  In that I think there is a mute. I haven’t looked in a little bit but I think 
it’s there right beside the volume stuff. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


LOL!

OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group what I 
push to mute/un? mute?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Emmons
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM
  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


  Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, and 
don’t use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See where 
that gets you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd but it does 
work. See what happens with that and if you still get stuck email me back and 
I’ll see what else I might be missing. In the meantime I’m getting more coffee 
so that might help. Lol. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Tim,

I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've 
been actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right arrowing.  In 
other words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right arrow to move 
through the page.

OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume ajuster, 
interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow keys, 
making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?

Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more 
clarification on this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Emmons
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM
  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


  Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that 
group. I had to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible 
flavor of the player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and let me know 
if you have any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I came up with 
and it works like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Good morning guys!


I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for 
Sirius XM Radio online streaming.


I'm navigating to:


http://player.siriusxm.com


I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.


Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a 
channel of my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how to 
get the embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top of the 
html content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but when I interact with 
that group, I don't really see anything underneath it.  If instead of 
interacting, I simply just VO+right arrow past that item, I see a few links 
that just simply say "slash."  Hitting VO+space on them doesn't seem to be 
doing anything though.


I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9.  Further also for 
your knowledge, I'm using DOM navigation.  I'm not sure if that really matters, 
but anyway...


If anyone has figured out how on earth to do this, please let me 
know.  I'm about ready to report this to them as an accessibility issue, but 
I'd rather not do that until I know with utter assurance that there is 
absolutely no work around that I may just not be aware of.


Thank you guys profusely for your help.


Chris.


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Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

George, I think you're right, from what little I recall playing with it last 
night.  It's not a big deal really.  As long as I at the very least can get the 
volume to work, that's my main concern.

Thank you all again for your help.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: george b 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:34 AM
  Subject: RE: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


  If he keeps moving to the right he comes to a skip back then paws then skip 
forward

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Emmons
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 07:33
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

   

  In that I think there is a mute. I haven’t looked in a little bit but I think 
it’s there right beside the volume stuff. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

 

LOL!

 

OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group what I 
push to mute/un? mute?

 

Chris.

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Tim Emmons

  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM

  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

   

  Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, and 
don’t use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See where 
that gets you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd but it does 
work. See what happens with that and if you still get stuck email me back and 
I’ll see what else I might be missing. In the meantime I’m getting more coffee 
so that might help. Lol. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

 

Tim,

 

I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've 
been actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right arrowing.  In 
other words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right arrow to move 
through the page.

 

OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume ajuster, 
interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow keys, 
making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?

 

Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more 
clarification on this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.

 

Chris.

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Tim Emmons

  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM

  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

   

  Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that 
group. I had to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible 
flavor of the player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and let me know 
if you have any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I came up with 
and it works like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

 

Good morning guys!

 

I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for 
Sirius XM Radio online streaming.

 

I'm navigating to:

 

http://player.siriusxm.com

 

I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.

 

Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a 
channel of my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how to 
get the embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top of the 
html content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but when I interact with 
that group, I don't really see anything underneath it.  If instead of 
interacting, I simply just VO+right arrow past that item, I see a few links 
that just simply say "slash."  Hitting VO+space on them doesn't seem to be 
doing anything though.

 

I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9.  Further also for 
your knowledge, I'm using DOM navigation.  I'm not sure if that really matters, 
but anyway...

 

If anyone has figured out how on earth to do this, please let me 
know.  I'm about ready to report this to them as an accessibility issue, but 
I'd rather not do that until I know with utter assurance that there is 
absolutely no work around that I may just not be aware of.

 

Thank you guys profusely for your help.

 

Chris.

 

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Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Scott Granados]

+1 I have this service as well so will give it a shot.  Would love to be able 
to work the volume control so I’m finding this thread very helpful.  Thanks

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> George, I think you're right, from what little I recall playing with it last 
> night.  It's not a big deal really.  As long as I at the very least can get 
> the volume to work, that's my main concern.
>  
> Thank you all again for your help.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: george b 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:34 AM
>> Subject: RE: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>> 
>> If he keeps moving to the right he comes to a skip back then paws then skip 
>> forward
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Emmons
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 07:33
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>>  
>> In that I think there is a mute. I haven’t looked in alittle bit but I 
>> think it’s there right beside the volume stuff. 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> LOL!
>>>  
>>> OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group what I 
>>> push to mute/un? mute?
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Emmons 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM
 Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
  
 Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, and 
 don’t use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See 
 where that gets you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd 
 but it does work. See what happens with that and if you still get stuck 
 email me back and I’ll see what else I might be missing. In the meantime 
 I’m getting more coffee so that might help. Lol. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Tim,
>  
> I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've 
> been actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right 
> arrowing.  In other words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right 
> arrow to move through the page.
>  
> OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume ajuster, 
> interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow 
> keys, making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?
>  
> Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more 
> clarification on this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Tim Emmons 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>>  
>> Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that group. 
>> I had to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible 
>> flavor of the player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and  
>>   let me know if you have any further trouble but after tinkering 
>> that’s what I came up with and it works like a charm. Thanks again and 
>> take care. 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Good morning guys!
>>>  
>>> I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for 
>>> Sirius XM Radio online streaming.
>>>  
>>> I'm navigating to:
>>>  
>>> http://player.siriusxm.com 
>>>  
>>> I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.
>>>  
>>> Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a 
>>> channel of my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding 
>>> how to get the embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At 
>>> the top of the html content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but 
>>> when I interact with that group, I don't really see anything underneath 
>>> it.  If instead of interacting, I simply just VO+right arrow past that 
>>> item, I see a few links that just simply say "slash."  Hitting VO+space 
>>> on them doesn't seem to be doing anything though.
>>>  
>>> I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9. 

Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Tim Emmons]

Ok guys, here it is. Get to the Adjust volume group. interact twice. You’re 
going to interact the first time and see a slash link, or an adjust volume.high 
Png Link, or something to that effect. Interact there, make sure quick nav is 
off and hold either your up or your down arrow down until you get the desired 
volume. Running it right now and that’s exactly what I did. Hope this helps 
everybody. Y’all let me know if you run into any more problems. Take care. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> +1 I have this service as well so will give it a shot.  Would love to be able 
> to work the volume control so I’m finding this thread very helpful.  Thanks
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> George, I think you're right, from what little I recall playing with it last 
>> night.  It's not a big deal really.  As long as I at the very least can get 
>> the volume to work, that's my main concern.
>>  
>> Thank you all again for your help.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: george b 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:34 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>>> 
>>> If he keeps moving to the right he comes to a skip back then paws then skip 
>>> forward
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>  ] On Behalf Of Tim Emmons
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 07:33
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>>>  
>>> In that I think there is a mute. I haven’t looked in a little bit but I 
>>> think it’s there right beside the volume stuff. 
 On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
  
 LOL!
  
 OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group what I 
 push to mute/un? mute?
  
 Chris.
  
> - Original Message - 
> From: Tim Emmons 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>  
> Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, and 
> don’t use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See 
> where that gets you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd 
> but it does work. See what happens with that and if you still get stuck 
> email me back and I’ll see what else I might be missing. In the meantime 
> I’m getting more coffee so that might help. Lol. 
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Tim,
>>  
>> I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've 
>> been actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right 
>> arrowing.  In other words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right 
>> arrow to move through the page.
>>  
>> OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume ajuster, 
>> interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow 
>> keys, making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?
>>  
>> Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more 
>> clarification on this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Tim Emmons 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>>>  
>>> Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that group. 
>>> I had to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible 
>>> flavor of the player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and let 
>>> me know if you have any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what 
>>> I came up with and it works like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 
 On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
  
 Good morning guys!
  
 I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for 
 Sirius XM Radio online streaming.
  
 I'm navigating to:
  
 http://player.siriusxm.com 
  
 I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.
  
>

Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK Tim, let me try that, as yeah, it didn't work the way you said initially.  
Let me try that double interaction.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Emmons 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


  Ok guys, here it is. Get to the Adjust volume group. interact twice. You’re 
going to interact the first time and see a slash link, or an adjust volume.high 
Png Link, or something to that effect. Interact there, make sure quick nav is 
off and hold either your up or your down arrow down until you get the desired 
volume. Running it right now and that’s exactly what I did. Hope this helps 
everybody. Y’all let me know if you run into any more problems. Take care. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:


+1 I have this service as well so will give it a shot.  Would love to be 
able to work the volume control so I’m finding this thread very helpful.  Thanks


  On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  George, I think you're right, from what little I recall playing with it 
last night.  It's not a big deal really.  As long as I at the very least can 
get the volume to work, that's my main concern.

  Thank you all again for your help.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: george b
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


If he keeps moving to the right he comes to a skip back then paws then 
skip forward

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tim Emmons
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 07:33
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

In that I think there is a mute. I haven’t looked in a little bit but I 
think it’s there right beside the volume stuff. 
  On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

  LOL!

  OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group 
what I push to mute/un? mute?

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Emmons
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, 
and don’t use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See where 
that gets you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd but it does 
work. See what happens with that and if you still get stuck email me back and 
I’ll see what else I might be missing. In the meantime I’m getting more coffee 
so that might help. Lol. 
  On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

  Tim,

  I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  
I've been actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right arrowing. 
 In other words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right arrow to move 
through the page.

  OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume 
ajuster, interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow 
keys, making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?

  Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more 
clarification on this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Emmons
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in 
that group. I had to work with it but it works and is probably the most 
accessible flavor of the player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and 
let me know if you have any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I 
came up with and it works like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 
  On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

  Good morning guys!

  I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player 
for Sirius XM Radio online streaming.

  I'm navigating to:

  http://player.siriusxm.com

  I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.

  Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can 
get a channel of my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how 
to get the embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top of 
the html cont

Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Tim Emmons]

I forgot about the double interaction, since the El Capitan update this became 
a little issue but it works this way. I tried three different times with the 
same result. Hope it helps. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> OK Tim, let me try that, as yeah, it didn't work the way you said initially.  
> Let me try that double interaction.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Tim Emmons 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>> 
>> Ok guys, here it is. Get to the Adjust volume group. interact twice. You’re 
>> going to interact the first time and see a slash link, or an adjust 
>> volume.high Png Link, or something to that effect. Interact there, make sure 
>> quick nav is off and hold either your up or your down arrow down until you 
>> get the desired volume. Running it right now and that’s exactly what I did. 
>> Hope this helps everybody. Y’all let me know if you run into any more 
>> problems. Take care. 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 I have this service as well so will give it a shot.  Would love to be 
>>> able to work the volume control so I’m finding this thread very helpful.  
>>> Thanks
>>> 
 On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
 George, I think you're right, from what little I recall playing with it 
 last night.  It's not a big deal really.  As long as I at the very least 
 can get the volume to work, that's my main concern.
  
 Thank you all again for your help.
  
 Chris.
  
> - Original Message - 
> From: george b 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:34 AM
> Subject: RE: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
> 
> If he keeps moving to the right he comes to a skip back then paws then 
> skip forward
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Tim Emmons
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 07:33
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
> In that I think there is a mute. I haven’t looked in a little bit but I 
> think it’s there right beside the volume stuff. 
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> LOL!
>> OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group what I 
>> push to mute/un? mute?
>> Chris.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Tim Emmons 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
>>> Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, and 
>>> don’t use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See 
>>> where that gets you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little 
>>> odd but it does work. See what happens with that and if you still get 
>>> stuck email me back and I’ll see what else I might be missing. In the 
>>> meantime I’m getting more coffee so that might help. Lol. 
 On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Tim,
 I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've 
 been actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right 
 arrowing.  In other words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and 
 right arrow to move through the page.
 OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume 
 ajuster, interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and 
 right arrow keys, making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?
 Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more 
 clarification on this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.
 Chris.
> - Original Message - 
> From: Tim Emmons 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site
> Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that 
> group. I had to work with it but

Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK guys,

I've made a very very short, maybe 6 or 7 minute long audio demonstration of 
how to get the volume to work.  I had to modify the double interaction 
instructions Tim gave ever so slightly in order to get it to work, however, I 
definitely have very consistently gotten this working with Safari 9 and 
Yosemite 10.10.5.

I can't really vouch for El Capitan at this point, but here's how to do this in 
Yosemite, at least.  It might work this way in El Capi, so you'll just have to 
try it.  Just know however, over there, your milage may vary.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ocrtj9

Chris.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Emmons 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


  Ok guys, here it is. Get to the Adjust volume group. interact twice. You’re 
going to interact the first time and see a slash link, or an adjust volume.high 
Png Link, or something to that effect. Interact there, make sure quick nav is 
off and hold either your up or your down arrow down until you get the desired 
volume. Running it right now and that’s exactly what I did. Hope this helps 
everybody. Y’all let me know if you run into any more problems. Take care. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:


+1 I have this service as well so will give it a shot.  Would love to be 
able to work the volume control so I’m finding this thread very helpful.  Thanks


  On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  George, I think you're right, from what little I recall playing with it 
last night.  It's not a big deal really.  As long as I at the very least can 
get the volume to work, that's my main concern.

  Thank you all again for your help.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: george b
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: Need help with navigating a problematic web site


If he keeps moving to the right he comes to a skip back then paws then 
skip forward

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tim Emmons
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 07:33
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

In that I think there is a mute. I haven’t looked in a little bit but I 
think it’s there right beside the volume stuff. 
  On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

  LOL!

  OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group 
what I push to mute/un? mute?

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Emmons
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, 
and don’t use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See where 
that gets you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd but it does 
work. See what happens with that and if you still get stuck email me back and 
I’ll see what else I might be missing. In the meantime I’m getting more coffee 
so that might help. Lol. 
  On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

  Tim,

  I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  
I've been actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right arrowing. 
 In other words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right arrow to move 
through the page.

  OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume 
ajuster, interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow 
keys, making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?

  Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more 
clarification on this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Emmons
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in 
that group. I had to work with it but it works and is probably the most 
accessible flavor of the player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and 
let me know if you have any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I 
came up with and it works like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 
  On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

  Good morning guys!

  I'm trying to navigate the embedded i

Re: adium setting up accounts

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

This is one reason why I recommended Trillion over Adium.  I find Adium to 
be quite problematic.


I think you're going to need your entire yahoo ID, but again, I cannot 
promise you that'll work, regardless the version you get.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Singing Sparrow" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 11:23 PM
Subject: adium setting up accounts



I am having trouble setting up an account in Adium.
I have a yahoo account i want to set up in adium but when i try setting it 
up nothing happens.

Do i need the full yahoo email id or just the first part?
also what version truely supports yahoo messenger?
Can anyone help?

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Re: Voiceover goes round and around.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, I think this is under the Navigation category in the Voiceover Utility. 
There is a checkbox that says Allow cursor wrapping.  VO+Space, and uncheck 
it.


Then close your Voiceover Utility, and you should be good to go.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Anders Holmberg" 

To: "'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 3:16 AM
Subject: Voiceover goes round and around.


Hi!
I can’t for the life of me remember where this setting is:
But now voiceover doesn’t stop at the bottom of the screen.
It goes back to the top again.
But where is the settings for this?
It drives me mad!
/A

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Re: A Quick Tip for Those Using The Native El Capitan Mail Application, Getting VO to Announce The Total Number of Messages in a Particular Mailbox

[Michael Babcock]

thanks for this; it’s always good to go back to the basics.

Michael Babcock
Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
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> On Oct 6, 2015, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> You know, sometimes, it's helpful to return to the basics.  
> 
> As some of you may know, I use the native OS X El Capitan Mail application
> via Standard view, complete with the Preview pane being displayed.  
> 
> Since using El Capitan, I have since wanted to be able to have VoiceOver not
> only announce how many unread messages exist in a particular mailbox but to
> also announce the total number of messages in that mailbox.  
> 
> Simply put, using the key combo of VO+F2 causes this information to be
> announced.
> 
> While I'm certain most on this list new the basic purpose of this command,
> apparently, I had forgotten it (smile).  
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Voiceover goes round and around.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

You wrote:

I'm afraid I can't remember exactly where to find it though.

It's in the Voiceover Utility, and is under the Navigation category.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Debbie April Yuille" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Voiceover goes round and around.


Hi Anders

You need to disable cursor wrapping. I'm afraid I can't remember exactly 
where to find it though.


Debbie

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg

Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2015 6:16 PM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Voiceover goes round and around.

Hi!
I can’t for the life of me remember where this setting is:
But now voiceover doesn’t stop at the bottom of the screen.
It goes back to the top again.
But where is the settings for this?
It drives me mad!
/A

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Re: Braille Support in OS X

[E.T.]

   Thanks for your feedback. I don't know about the other things but 
since there is braille support in OS X, even if issues have been present 
for years, Apple needs to hear from us, if it means repeatedly hearing 
the same thing.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/6/2015 4:45 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Of course reading with dots 7 and/or 8 is harder, but if well implemented 
that’s actually a good thing; for example, BRLTTY uses those dots to indicate 
capitalisation and attribute, respectively, with both for a system cursor (one 
cell).  OS X on the other hand has exactly one caret style, a blinking dot 8, 
and exactly one cursor, both 7 and 8, which covers the entire cursor.  Very, 
very, very annoying, and it just maddens me to turn it off and end up with no 
indicator at all.

Braille users use braille in different ways.  I think supporting Apple’s 
current mode, as well as a full-screen mode, would be acceptable to me, as 
would a “Speech box” mode as seen in for example Supernova and in concept very 
similar to iOS.  Bonus points for a “Literary” braille mode, again as seen in 
Supernova, for the reading of beautiful text using correct formatting and 
indentation conventions of braille literature.  Different strokes for different 
folks and all that.  But right now, you only have the one mode that always 
moves the VO cursor, and it doesn’t work all that well with speech turned on 
I’m afraid.



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Re: A Dictionary Suggestion That Could Benefit Both Mac and iOS Devices

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yes, Shawn, it does make sense actually.

Have you considered sending this feedback along through

http://www.apple.com/feedback

It may be worth it.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 3:23 AM
Subject: A Dictionary Suggestion That Could Benefit Both Mac and iOS Devices


Hi all. I'm almost about to go to bed, but I had a suggestion that I wanted 
to share before I signed off for the night. It's a dictionary suggestion 
that could benefit the Mac and if they implement a dictionary in iOS it 
could be beneficial there too. So anyway, getting to the suggestion. I have 
a bunch of voices from three third party developers plus the voices that 
Apple provide here on my Mac. I notice that some of them may pronounce a 
word properly and some of them don't. An Example of this is the name of the 
current OS for Mac, El Capitan. I know that Alex says the word properly, but 
the third party voices from Nuance and that don't. I know I could go into 
the Voiceover utility and type in the proper pronunciation, but why should I 
do this to all the voices? Alex says it fine so why should this change also 
apply to a voice that says the word properly? That's why I think Apple 
should implement an option in the OS X Voiceover dictionary, and later in 
iOS if they make a dictionary for it, that a pronunciation of a word be tied 
to a specific voice. Now if you use the popular Windows screenreader NVDA, 
you'll know what I'm talking about. There's a submenu in their dictionary 
menu where you can select if the pronunciation will be global or for a 
specific voice. This is useful if you're like me that use multiple Sapi 
voices or voices that they provide that are high in quality. If a setting 
like this were made for the Mac, if you use Alex and other voices, you could 
set this up for those voices and leave Alex alone. I hope this all makes 
sense and good night to you all.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
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Re: Braille Support in OS X

[Devin Prater]

Another facit of this issue is that people that are deaf and blind must use 
braille, so Apple really has to work on this, if they are to say that their 
systems can be used by everyone. 

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Re: Braille Support in OS X

[E.T.]

   Exactly. This is why I started this, hoping to see positive changes.

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On 10/7/2015 8:58 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

Another facit of this issue is that people that are deaf and blind must use 
braille, so Apple really has to work on this, if they are to say that their 
systems can be used by everyone.



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Re: adium setting up accounts

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
At this point, Adium is pretty much dead. In fact, I didn’t put it back on here 
after I reinstalled everything last week. It’s a good thing there are 
alternatives. :)

Jeffrey
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> This is one reason why I recommended Trillion over Adium.  I find Adium to be 
> quite problematic.
> 
> I think you're going to need your entire yahoo ID, but again, I cannot 
> promise you that'll work, regardless the version you get.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Singing Sparrow" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 11:23 PM
> Subject: adium setting up accounts
> 
> 
>> I am having trouble setting up an account in Adium.
>> I have a yahoo account i want to set up in adium but when i try setting it 
>> up nothing happens.
>> Do i need the full yahoo email id or just the first part?
>> also what version truely supports yahoo messenger?
>> Can anyone help?
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Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

the terminal is not working, maybe because the file name of my el capitan on my 
application is install os el capitan?
> On 03 Oct 2015, at 7:18 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Well, it's that time of year, again.  
> 
> I hope you find the following information useful.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key
> 
> These are instructions on how to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key.
> 
> 1.
> Download OS X El Capitan 10.11 from the Mac App Store.  When the download
> has finished, make sure that you quit the installer rather than actually
> going through the process of upgrading over the top of your existing OS X
> installation. Make sure that the installer that downloads the El Capitan
> file is located in the /Applications folder under the name 'Install OS X El
> Capitan.app'.
> 
> 2.
> Connect a 8GB or larger USB key to your computer.  We're going to need to
> format the USB flash drive to get it into a state where it can accept the
> payload for the installation of El Capitan.
> 
> 3.
> Launch the Disk Utility application.
> 
> 4.
> Select the USB flash drive in the left sidebar.
> 
> 5.
> Click the Partition tab.
> 
> 6.
> Set the Partition Layout to 1 Partition, set the Name to Untitled, and set
> the Format to Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
> 
> 7.
> Click the Options button then choose GUID Partition Table from the popup
> window then click the OK button.
> 
> 8.
> Next click the Apply button to save your changes. When asked to confirm
> click the Partition button.
> 
> 9.
> Launch Terminal from the Applications:Utilities folder.
> 
> 10.
> Make sure your empty USB key is still inserted. Additionally, make sure you
> do not have any other volumes named Untitled except for the one we just
> created in Step eight.  Now, execute the following command in the Terminal
> window to create your OS X El Capitan Install key:
> 
> sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\
> Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled
> --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app
> --nointeraction
> 
> 11.
> Enter your Administrative account password.
> 
> 12.
> After about 15 to 30 minutes the creation of your USB Install Key for OS X
> El Capitan will be complete and you may safely remove your newly created El
> Capitan Installer key.
> 
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Re: Best Way to Use Spotlight Search

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I can get around with just the basics. Start with command-space to bring 
up search and type something in. Once results appear it will move focus 
to the first item in the results list (top hit) so you can just up/down 
arrow through them. VO focus will stay on the search input so you can 
refine the search if it's not giving you what you want. One downside of 
the up/down arrow is it doesn't announce the sections such as "PDF 
Documents" or "Folders". To do that I have to VO-right twice to get to 
the results table, interact with that, then vo-up/down to review the 
results with interspersed category headers. Once you find the result you 
want you hit return on it to open that file, link, email or whatever it is.


CB

On 10/5/15 5:44 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:

Chris, if you use spotlight let us know what key commands you use with it? 
Example tab VO and arrow, just arrows. What is the easiest way to navigate 
search results. Thanks,

On Oct 5, 2015, at 5:24 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I think one of the main advantages is supposed to be speed. Spotlight keeps an index of 
all your documents so search results come up quickly. The unix find command only searches 
file meta-data like its name, modification date, size etc. Spotlight searches inside your 
files so if you have a document which mentions pizza inside and is named "my 
favorite foods" spotlight should bring it up while find will not.

CB

On 10/3/15 3:59 PM, Blee Blat wrote:

I'm with you. I don't understand why I would use Spotlight when I could easily 
just use the UNIX find command from a terminal, or I know where my files. I've 
turned off all the spotlight options and turned off dictation and Siri because 
it gets things wrong pretty much all the time. I also turn off autocorrect and 
predictive text because I can type fast enough and all the autocorrect does is 
cause me to type the wrong word when I could've typed the right one without 
that feature. Does anyone care to explain what are the use of all these new 
features other than to making thinking superfluous? All this data monitoring 
stuff just seems creepy. But maybe there is a use for it? Why would I want to 
train the dictator and autocorrect if I can type it in just fine with a 
reasonable keyboard?
  None of this is meant as negativity I'm just wondering how to make use of 
these fancy algorithms without the machine thinking for me and being creepy. 
But it could be possibly just user error or user ignorance since I don't know 
what the intent of these things is exactly?



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Re: Voiceover goes round and around.

[Christina C.]

I am on Yosemite and I have this problem and the allow cursor wrapping is 
unchecked. I mainly encounter this wrapping problem in dialogue boxes, 
settings, and help areas.

On Oct 7, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> THe strange thing is that i didn’t find it there.
> But i did a reset of my voiceover prefs and that solved the problem.
> /A
>> On 07 Oct 2015, at 13:11, Debbie April Yuille  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ah, thanks Anne. I had forgotten where that setting was myself.
>> 
>> Debbie
>> 
>> Debbie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2015 8:26 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voiceover goes round and around.
>> 
>> Hello Anders,
>> 
>> The setting is the checkbox Allow cursor wrapping and it should be 
>> unchecked. It’s in Navigation in the VoiceOver Utility.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Oct 2015, at 09:16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I can’t for the life of me remember where this setting is:
>>> But now voiceover doesn’t stop at the bottom of the screen.
>>> It goes back to the top again.
>>> But where is the settings for this?
>>> It drives me mad!
>>> /A
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RE: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key

[M. Taylor]

Hello Dionipher,

I do not understand your comment.

What are you trying to accomplish?  It sounds as though you have successfully 
created the bootable USB install key for El Capitan.  

Are you now attempting to perform a fresh install of El Capitan on your Mac or 
are you simply attempting to install El Capitan over your existing copy of 
Yosemite.  Please be as specific as possible.

Mark
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key

the terminal is not working, maybe because the file name of my el capitan on my 
application is install os el capitan?
> On 03 Oct 2015, at 7:18 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Well, it's that time of year, again.  
> 
> I hope you find the following information useful.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key
> 
> These are instructions on how to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key.
> 
> 1.
> Download OS X El Capitan 10.11 from the Mac App Store.  When the 
> download has finished, make sure that you quit the installer rather 
> than actually going through the process of upgrading over the top of 
> your existing OS X installation. Make sure that the installer that 
> downloads the El Capitan file is located in the /Applications folder 
> under the name 'Install OS X El Capitan.app'.
> 
> 2.
> Connect a 8GB or larger USB key to your computer.  We're going to need 
> to format the USB flash drive to get it into a state where it can 
> accept the payload for the installation of El Capitan.
> 
> 3.
> Launch the Disk Utility application.
> 
> 4.
> Select the USB flash drive in the left sidebar.
> 
> 5.
> Click the Partition tab.
> 
> 6.
> Set the Partition Layout to 1 Partition, set the Name to Untitled, and 
> set the Format to Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
> 
> 7.
> Click the Options button then choose GUID Partition Table from the 
> popup window then click the OK button.
> 
> 8.
> Next click the Apply button to save your changes. When asked to 
> confirm click the Partition button.
> 
> 9.
> Launch Terminal from the Applications:Utilities folder.
> 
> 10.
> Make sure your empty USB key is still inserted. Additionally, make 
> sure you do not have any other volumes named Untitled except for the 
> one we just created in Step eight.  Now, execute the following command 
> in the Terminal window to create your OS X El Capitan Install key:
> 
> sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ 
> Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume 
> /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ 
> Capitan.app --nointeraction
> 
> 11.
> Enter your Administrative account password.
> 
> 12.
> After about 15 to 30 minutes the creation of your USB Install Key for 
> OS X El Capitan will be complete and you may safely remove your newly 
> created El Capitan Installer key.
> 
> 
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Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

i am making a bootable el capitan disk. but i already done it with disk maker x.
> On 07 Oct 2015, at 10:06 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dionipher,
> 
> I do not understand your comment.
> 
> What are you trying to accomplish?  It sounds as though you have successfully 
> created the bootable USB install key for El Capitan.  
> 
> Are you now attempting to perform a fresh install of El Capitan on your Mac 
> or are you simply attempting to install El Capitan over your existing copy of 
> Yosemite.  Please be as specific as possible.
> 
> Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key
> 
> the terminal is not working, maybe because the file name of my el capitan on 
> my application is install os el capitan?
>> On 03 Oct 2015, at 7:18 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Well, it's that time of year, again.  
>> 
>> I hope you find the following information useful.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key
>> 
>> These are instructions on how to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key.
>> 
>> 1.
>> Download OS X El Capitan 10.11 from the Mac App Store.  When the 
>> download has finished, make sure that you quit the installer rather 
>> than actually going through the process of upgrading over the top of 
>> your existing OS X installation. Make sure that the installer that 
>> downloads the El Capitan file is located in the /Applications folder 
>> under the name 'Install OS X El Capitan.app'.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Connect a 8GB or larger USB key to your computer.  We're going to need 
>> to format the USB flash drive to get it into a state where it can 
>> accept the payload for the installation of El Capitan.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Launch the Disk Utility application.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Select the USB flash drive in the left sidebar.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Click the Partition tab.
>> 
>> 6.
>> Set the Partition Layout to 1 Partition, set the Name to Untitled, and 
>> set the Format to Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
>> 
>> 7.
>> Click the Options button then choose GUID Partition Table from the 
>> popup window then click the OK button.
>> 
>> 8.
>> Next click the Apply button to save your changes. When asked to 
>> confirm click the Partition button.
>> 
>> 9.
>> Launch Terminal from the Applications:Utilities folder.
>> 
>> 10.
>> Make sure your empty USB key is still inserted. Additionally, make 
>> sure you do not have any other volumes named Untitled except for the 
>> one we just created in Step eight.  Now, execute the following command 
>> in the Terminal window to create your OS X El Capitan Install key:
>> 
>> sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ 
>> Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume 
>> /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ 
>> Capitan.app --nointeraction
>> 
>> 11.
>> Enter your Administrative account password.
>> 
>> 12.
>> After about 15 to 30 minutes the creation of your USB Install Key for 
>> OS X El Capitan will be complete and you may safely remove your newly 
>> created El Capitan Installer key.
>> 
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No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is yet 
another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social networks 
back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to Facebook which is now a 
nightmare as you no longer can interact when writing something to post to 
Facebook, you have to tab around once you click Facebook and then after writing 
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after using El Capitan it really blows me away how many minor issues and 
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Re: No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[Tim Emmons]

You’re not, if somebody finds a way please let me know as well. I’m stuck and 
can’t get that post button to show. What are we missing here folks. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is yet 
> another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social networks 
> back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to Facebook which is now 
> a nightmare as you no longer can interact when writing something to post to 
> Facebook, you have to tab around once you click Facebook and then after 
> writing something there is no post button. Hope to hear I am missing 
> something, but after using El Capitan it really blows me away how many minor 
> issues and oversights I have found.
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Re: No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
I just found a way, I hope it works for others as well.
When you are in the edit box and you have finished writing your post, press 
CTRL + Tab and then, press Tab till you get to the Post button, and press 
Return.  This works for Twitter and others as well, from their. That should do 
it. :)
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
> 
> You’re not, if somebody finds a way please let me know as well. I’m stuck and 
> can’t get that post button to show. What are we missing here folks. 
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is yet 
>> another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social networks 
>> back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to Facebook which is 
>> now a nightmare as you no longer can interact when writing something to post 
>> to Facebook, you have to tab around once you click Facebook and then after 
>> writing something there is no post button. Hope to hear I am missing 
>> something, but after using El Capitan it really blows me away how many minor 
>> issues and oversights I have found.
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Re: No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[John Panarese]

   Yes, this works. Also, sometimes leaving the window and coming back to it 
will enable you to use the tab or VO-arrow keys to get to the post button.


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> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I just found a way, I hope it works for others as well.
> When you are in the edit box and you have finished writing your post, press 
> CTRL + Tab and then, press Tab till you get to the Post button, and press 
> Return.  This works for Twitter and others as well, from their. That should 
> do it. :)
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
>> 
>> You’re not, if somebody finds a way please let me know as well. I’m stuck 
>> and can’t get that post button to show. What are we missing here folks. 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is yet 
>>> another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social networks 
>>> back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to Facebook which is 
>>> now a nightmare as you no longer can interact when writing something to 
>>> post to Facebook, you have to tab around once you click Facebook and then 
>>> after writing something there is no post button. Hope to hear I am missing 
>>> something, but after using El Capitan it really blows me away how many 
>>> minor issues and oversights I have found.
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Re: No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[Michael Babcock]

how do i get to the post to Facebook in the first place? is it a feature i need 
to turn in in the notifications preferences? All i see are my notifications 
from Facebook but no way to post.
best.

Michael Babcock
Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
@payown on periscope and twitter.
http://yourownpay .com/

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I just found a way, I hope it works for others as well.
> When you are in the edit box and you have finished writing your post, press 
> CTRL + Tab and then, press Tab till you get to the Post button, and press 
> Return.  This works for Twitter and others as well, from their. That should 
> do it. :)
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
>> 
>> You’re not, if somebody finds a way please let me know as well. I’m stuck 
>> and can’t get that post button to show. What are we missing here folks. 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is yet 
>>> another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social networks 
>>> back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to Facebook which is 
>>> now a nightmare as you no longer can interact when writing something to 
>>> post to Facebook, you have to tab around once you click Facebook and then 
>>> after writing something there is no post button. Hope to hear I am missing 
>>> something, but after using El Capitan it really blows me away how many 
>>> minor issues and oversights I have found.
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Re: No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[Devin Prater]

Turn on social widgets in the notification center today screen. And to send, 
try command-shift-d, like to send mail. That has alwas worked.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
> 
> how do i get to the post to Facebook in the first place? is it a feature i 
> need to turn in in the notifications preferences? All i see are my 
> notifications from Facebook but no way to post.
> best.
> 
> Michael Babcock
> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
> @payown on periscope and twitter.
> http://yourownpay.com/
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I just found a way, I hope it works for others as well.
>> When you are in the edit box and you have finished writing your post, press 
>> CTRL + Tab and then, press Tab till you get to the Post button, and press 
>> Return.  This works for Twitter and others as well, from their. That should 
>> do it. :)
>> Hope this helps,
>> Jeffrey
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You’re not, if somebody finds a way please let me know as well. I’m stuck 
>>> and can’t get that post button to show. What are we missing here folks. 
 On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
 Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is yet 
 another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social 
 networks back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to Facebook 
 which is now a nightmare as you no longer can interact when writing 
 something to post to Facebook, you have to tab around once you click 
 Facebook and then after writing something there is no post button. Hope to 
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Re: ChronoSync and voiceover

[Econ Technologies]

Emilio,

  I work for Econ Technologies, Inc., the creators of ChronoSync.  We have 
done extensive testing to ensure we have good voiceover support and feel it 
is a very good option for those that need accessible applications.  We have 
not had much feedback from our user-base on this feature, so we're a little 
unsure if it meets everyone's voiceover needs, but are very interested in 
learning if it works well for you.

  My first suggestion would be for you to get a copy of ChronoSync from our 
website at:  www.econtechnologies.com/downloads/downloads.html

  When you launch ChronoSync, you can enable 'Trial Mode' and use it to see 
if ChronoSync meets your needs.

  You will simply need to setup a new sync document, choose your source and 
destination targets and run your sync document to perform the backup.  We 
have a 'Quick Start Guide' at 
http://downloads.econtechnologies.com/manuals/CS_QuickStartGuide.pdf that 
can help you with the process. 

  Post here, or contact us directly on our support form page at:  
http://www.econtechnologies.com/support/open-ticket.php and give us your 
feedback.  We are always looking to improve the product and if you have 
accessibility suggestions, we would be happy to listen.

Regards,
Econ


On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:09:22 AM UTC-4, Emilio wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, 
>
> I am just curious to know if anyone has had success using ChronoSync with 
> voiceover? In particular when syncing a NAS and backing up to a hard drive? 
> I am interested to know of others’ experiences because this seems like the 
> alternative I have been searching for that allow me to back-up my NAS 
> elsewhere. 
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Re: No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks for the tips will try these the next time I post. Wish they could have 
just left it as it worked great in Yosemite and was my preferred way of 
posting. Thanks,
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Turn on social widgets in the notification center today screen. And to send, 
> try command-shift-d, like to send mail. That has alwas worked.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Michael Babcock  > wrote:
> 
>> how do i get to the post to Facebook in the first place? is it a feature i 
>> need to turn in in the notifications preferences? All i see are my 
>> notifications from Facebook but no way to post.
>> best.
>> 
>> Michael Babcock
>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>> http://yourownpay .com/
>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I just found a way, I hope it works for others as well.
>>> When you are in the edit box and you have finished writing your post, press 
>>> CTRL + Tab and then, press Tab till you get to the Post button, and press 
>>> Return.  This works for Twitter and others as well, from their. That should 
>>> do it. :)
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Jeffrey
 On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Tim Emmons >>> > wrote:
 
 You’re not, if somebody finds a way please let me know as well. I’m stuck 
 and can’t get that post button to show. What are we missing here folks. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Brian Fischler  > wrote:
> 
> Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is yet 
> another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social 
> networks back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to Facebook 
> which is now a nightmare as you no longer can interact when writing 
> something to post to Facebook, you have to tab around once you click 
> Facebook and then after writing something there is no post button. Hope 
> to hear I am missing something, but after using El Capitan it really 
> blows me away how many minor issues and oversights I have found.
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Chromevox and voiceover Navication

[Emilio Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

I am learning the ins-and-outs of working with Chromevox, and so far I like it. 
I like how flash is imbedded into Google Chrome, and I like how I can change 
voices because the bubbly one at first activation was not ideal. Lol

My question deals with navigation through web sites etc. I am aware of the 
navigation keys one must use to move through web sites, but is there an easier 
method of navigation?
Presently,, I must press the CTRL-key, then the letter “N,” followed by an 
additional letter such as, “E” to move to a search field, “C” to move to a 
comobox, or “X” to love to the next link if I do not want to use the tab-key.
My original intent of learning how to use Chromvox is to learn how to create 
Google documents, spreadsheets, and power points because I’ve heard that this 
can be useful in some situations.

Additionally, what are ways others have found to navigate within comboboxes? I 
found a work-around while in gmail using Google Chrome, but just curious to 
know the methods of others’ who use this browser?

Finally, what are some plugins others who use Chrome can suggest to increase 
the ease of using this browser?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Needing 10 beta testers for this wordpress training i've created

[Michael Babcock]

good day:
I've created a training platform walking blind entrepreneurs through the 
process of installing and configuring Wordpress from a voiceover users point of 
view. I will be releasing windows versions of these videos as well in the near 
future! But I need beta testers. If you're interested, listen to this audio 
message to learn more.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6285342/Need%20Empowering%20The%20Blind%20Beta%20Testers.m4a
 


and hear is a sample of the first video, so you can hear some of my trainings 
before you take action and decide to get involved:
https://yourownpay.wistia.com/medias/g4dbymi1d8 

finally, hear is my email, please send me an email if you are interested in 
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Re: No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[joseph hudson]

Hello, if you have added the social widget to the notification center, and 
you've selected Facebook, or Twitter. Whichever one you prefer, then what you 
do after that, it is you navigate to the edit text field type what you want to 
type in the text field, and shift tab backwards, and then the post button will 
appear.
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
> 
> how do i get to the post to Facebook in the first place? is it a feature i 
> need to turn in in the notifications preferences? All i see are my 
> notifications from Facebook but no way to post.
> best.
> 
> Michael Babcock
> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
> @payown on periscope and twitter.
> http://yourownpay .com/
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I just found a way, I hope it works for others as well.
>> When you are in the edit box and you have finished writing your post, press 
>> CTRL + Tab and then, press Tab till you get to the Post button, and press 
>> Return.  This works for Twitter and others as well, from their. That should 
>> do it. :)
>> Hope this helps,
>> Jeffrey
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Tim Emmons >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You’re not, if somebody finds a way please let me know as well. I’m stuck 
>>> and can’t get that post button to show. What are we missing here folks. 
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 Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is yet 
 another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social 
 networks back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to Facebook 
 which is now a nightmare as you no longer can interact when writing 
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Night Owl interrupts messages

[Antonio Guimaraes]

Hi all,

Using right Owl, I switch to list view, then interact with the table of 
messages.

Most of the time the messages won’t read with VoiceOver in their entirety. 
Seems there’s a time limit for how long each message will be read for.

I don’t seem to experience this problem from my timeline.

Any solutions?

Antonio



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Re: Night Owl interrupts messages

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Why interact with the table? There is no need. Just arrow down through the 
list. You will also want to make sure the window is expanded go to the windows 
menu and hit zoom.

hth
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Using right Owl, I switch to list view, then interact with the table of 
> messages.
> 
> Most of the time the messages won’t read with VoiceOver in their entirety. 
> Seems there’s a time limit for how long each message will be read for.
> 
> I don’t seem to experience this problem from my timeline.
> 
> Any solutions?
> 
> Antonio
> 
> 
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Re: No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Shift tab doesn’t do anything for me. I stay in the edit field.

Thanks.
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:20 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hello, if you have added the social widget to the notification center, and 
> you've selected Facebook, or Twitter. Whichever one you prefer, then what you 
> do after that, it is you navigate to the edit text field type what you want 
> to type in the text field, and shift tab backwards, and then the post button 
> will appear.
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>> 
>> how do i get to the post to Facebook in the first place? is it a feature i 
>> need to turn in in the notifications preferences? All i see are my 
>> notifications from Facebook but no way to post.
>> best.
>> 
>> Michael Babcock
>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>> http://yourownpay.com/
>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I just found a way, I hope it works for others as well.
>>> When you are in the edit box and you have finished writing your post, press 
>>> CTRL + Tab and then, press Tab till you get to the Post button, and press 
>>> Return.  This works for Twitter and others as well, from their. That should 
>>> do it. :)
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Jeffrey
 On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
 
 You’re not, if somebody finds a way please let me know as well. I’m stuck 
 and can’t get that post button to show. What are we missing here folks. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is yet 
> another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social 
> networks back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to Facebook 
> which is now a nightmare as you no longer can interact when writing 
> something to post to Facebook, you have to tab around once you click 
> Facebook and then after writing something there is no post button. Hope 
> to hear I am missing something, but after using El Capitan it really 
> blows me away how many minor issues and oversights I have found.
> 
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Re: No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[joseph hudson]

What about alto having out of it, and then I'll tell being back in, and 
then shift tab? Try that and see if that works.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Shift tab doesn’t do anything for me. I stay in the edit field.
> 
> Thanks.
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:20 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, if you have added the social widget to the notification center, and 
>> you've selected Facebook, or Twitter. Whichever one you prefer, then what 
>> you do after that, it is you navigate to the edit text field type what you 
>> want to type in the text field, and shift tab backwards, and then the post 
>> button will appear.
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>>> 
>>> how do i get to the post to Facebook in the first place? is it a feature i 
>>> need to turn in in the notifications preferences? All i see are my 
>>> notifications from Facebook but no way to post.
>>> best.
>>> 
>>> Michael Babcock
>>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>>> http://yourownpay.com/
>>> 
 On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just found a way, I hope it works for others as well.
 When you are in the edit box and you have finished writing your post, 
 press CTRL + Tab and then, press Tab till you get to the Post button, and 
 press Return.  This works for Twitter and others as well, from their. That 
 should do it. :)
 Hope this helps,
 Jeffrey
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
> 
> You’re not, if somebody finds a way please let me know as well. I’m stuck 
> and can’t get that post button to show. What are we missing here folks. 
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is 
>> yet another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social 
>> networks back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to 
>> Facebook which is now a nightmare as you no longer can interact when 
>> writing something to post to Facebook, you have to tab around once you 
>> click Facebook and then after writing something there is no post button. 
>> Hope to hear I am missing something, but after using El Capitan it 
>> really blows me away how many minor issues and oversights I have found.
>> 
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Re: Night Owl interrupts messages

[Antonio Guimaraes]

thanks Ricardo,

I interacted with the table because I didn’t know you can read the list with up 
and down arrows while quick nav is off.

This helps a lot. Thank you.

Antonio

> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Why interact with the table? There is no need. Just arrow down through the 
> list. You will also want to make sure the window is expanded go to the 
> windows menu and hit zoom.
> 
> hth
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Using right Owl, I switch to list view, then interact with the table of 
>> messages.
>> 
>> Most of the time the messages won’t read with VoiceOver in their entirety. 
>> Seems there’s a time limit for how long each message will be read for.
>> 
>> I don’t seem to experience this problem from my timeline.
>> 
>> Any solutions?
>> 
>> Antonio
>> 
>> 
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