anker battery

[Jean]

Jesica:

The 4800 is a little bigger than a deck of cards. It charges using usb.
Jean

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audio editing software

[Maria Chapman]

Hi does anyone have a podcast or tutorial on using sound studio or audacity 
with voice over? Am looking to do some basic audio editing like cutting things 
out of files etc.

thanks

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Re: audio editing software

[Alan Lemly]

Maria, 

I don't know how well these work with VoiceOver but I assume the site is 
accessible through your browser. It works well in safari on my iPhone 6. These 
Wiki tutorials cover a variety of topics on using Audacity. 

See the link following my signature.

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 

http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Category:Tutorial

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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
> 
> Hi does anyone have a podcast or tutorial on using sound studio or audacity 
> with voice over? Am looking to do some basic audio editing like cutting 
> things out of files etc.
> 
> thanks
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Re: anker battery

[Jessica Moss]

About how many charges do you get out of it before you have to recharge it?

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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Jean  wrote:
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> Jesica:
> 
> The 4800 is a little bigger than a deck of cards. It charges using usb.
> Jean
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Netflix account

[Phil Halton]

I cannot find any way to access my Netflix account such as password and user 
name changes etc. I've tried on the Netflix app, on my iOS device through 
Safari, and on Mac OS X through Safari. I cannot find any link that will take 
me to my account settings.
Can anybody help me to find how I access my Netflix account settings? I need to 
change my username. Thanks in advance

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bootcamp not appearing in startup disk prefs

[joe quinn]

Subject says it all. I can't go to bootfcam via the recovery partition's
"choose a startup disk" option, but, nowhere else. Bootchamp doesn't work
anymore, citing some sort of error, and, it just doesn't appear in startup
prefs. Any ideas on how I can fix this? It's not worked for a while on a
mid-2012 MacBook pro running 10.11. but, before you say anything about me
being off topic, it didn't work in os x 10.10 either.

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a question on notifications in FB Mesenger

[Regina Alvarado]

Hi all, I know this is a mac list, but I have a question about notifications on 
iPhone and Bacebook Mesenger if someone could help. I'll say thanks before my 
question. 

A friend was installing mesenger. She got all the messages about her phone 
number, contacts etc. She was going through these quickly saying no. When she 
came to notifications she accidentally said she didn't want them on. However, 
she does. How can she turn notifications back on in FB Mesenger. We looked in 
settings both in notifications and under Mesenger. Nothing there. Does she have 
to go into the FB actual site?


reggie & Lex

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RE: a question on notifications in FB Mesenger

[george b]

In settings scroll down to facebook and double tap and see if it is in there

If not open the facebook app and in the bottom right corner is a more double 
tap on it and swip through the choices and I think notifications is one and be 
sure the check box is checked

 

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On Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 12:28
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: a question on notifications in FB Mesenger

 

Hi all, I know this is a mac list, but I have a question about notifications on 
iPhone and Bacebook Mesenger if someone could help. I'll say thanks before my 
question. 

A friend was installing mesenger. She got all the messages about her phone 
number, contacts etc. She was going through these quickly saying no. When she 
came to notifications she accidentally said she didn't want them on. However, 
she does. How can she turn notifications back on in FB Mesenger. We looked in 
settings both in notifications and under Mesenger. Nothing there. Does she have 
to go into the FB actual site?

 

reggie & Lex

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Re: audio editing software

[Devin Prater]

Yes, Audacity works fine on the mac. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Maria, 
> 
> I don't know how well these work with VoiceOver but I assume the site is 
> accessible through your browser. It works well in safari on my iPhone 6. 
> These Wiki tutorials cover a variety of topics on using Audacity. 
> 
> See the link following my signature.
> 
> Good luck. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Category:Tutorial
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi does anyone have a podcast or tutorial on using sound studio or audacity 
>> with voice over? Am looking to do some basic audio editing like cutting 
>> things out of files etc.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
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Moving photo albums

[E.T.]

   I wish to move photo albums from iPhone 5 to Mac in iTunes leaving 
only Photo Stream. How best to do this? Thanks.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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Resetting unknown password

[-]

This question comes up here from time to time.  Here is a youtube video 
which shows how to do it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOq3aiRb57Y

I have no way to know how well this works and anything that could result 
negatively is fullly your responsibility.


XB

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Re: Resetting unknown password

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

A pity the person wasn't using Voice Over.  So our macs are not secure if 
someone can reset a mac which has a user ID on it.

Kawal.
On 7 Sep 2015, at 21:54, -  wrote:


This question comes up here from time to time.  Here is a youtube video which 
shows how to do it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOq3aiRb57Y

I have no way to know how well this works and anything that could result 
negatively is fullly your responsibility.

XB

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Re: external battery charger

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I had that talking charger if it's the old one and it stopped working after two 
or three charges.  I didn't bother buying another as I bought one of the last 
from Amazon.com.  But now that I have the I phone 6 plus and selling the said 
phone, I will probably not have to worry to charge the next phone as there is 
to be more battery life I think in the 6S or whatever it's going to be called.  
Not long before the 9th.

Kawal.
On 6 Sep 2015, at 22:00, John Sanfilippo  wrote:

Hi,

I'm entering this thread late, but maybe you'd want to consider a Charge Bank 
which is available at www.ATGuys.com.

It can charge several devices at once and can fully charge an iPhone 5S at 
least twice. They get $89 for it.

John S


- Original Message - 
From: "John Weir" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 15:03
Subject: Re: external battery charger


> Aman: in the 500ma case below, on the USB there is no handshake on the 
> data lines, the device has only 5 and ground, does that matter? it was 
> designed to use a 120v ac charger with 5 volts 500ma DC output. I am 
> wanting to extend life from 5 hours to about 15 with out recharge so 
> connecting to external battery. Will the Anker  or any other such 
> battery need some sort of feed back?  John
> 
> On 9/6/15 8:19 AM, Aman Singer wrote:
>> Hi,
>> The amperage of output noted on a USB five volt battery indicates the peak 
>> output if the device requests it. These batteries can charge any usb powered 
>> device using standard protocols, keep in mind that some devices use only a 
>> hundred miliamps  and others use three amps. The usb specification, even on 
>> computers and wall chargers, needs to handle such differences between 
>> devices gracefully.
>> Hth,
>> Aman
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:11 PM, John Weir  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Need to understand them. Been looking at Anker batteries.  Do they self 
>>> regulate their output? ie  I have a device that charges off the plug in 
>>> power supply at 550ma.  IF I use an external battery charger that can 
>>> supply 1 or 2 amps , is this spec the possbile peak rate while the battery 
>>> charger only provides 555ma to my device then if I have an iphone needing 1 
>>> amp it provides one amp?  Ie I dont want to over heat and to blow up a 
>>> iphone or other device small battery that usually charges at 550ma by 
>>> hitting it with 1 or 2 amps..How do they work?  John Weir
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Re: bootcamp not appearing in startup disk prefs

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi,

A question for you: Are you using the most recent bootcamp drivers? Just a 
thought that the drivers have been updated. The other thought is: Have you ran 
a antivirus software to see if there's anything lurking in the background? I'm 
running bootcamp with Win 8.1 on a MacBook Air mid 2013 and not having any 
issues with it. 

Eileen  

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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 12:15 PM, joe quinn  wrote:
> 
> Subject says it all. I can’t go to bootfcam via the recovery partition’s 
> “choose a startup disk” option, but, nowhere else. Bootchamp doesn’t work 
> anymore, citing some sort of error, and, it just doesn’t appear in startup 
> prefs. Any ideas on how I can fix this? It’s not worked for a while on a 
> mid-2012 MacBook pro running 10.11. but, before you say anything about me 
> being off topic, it didn’t work in os x 10.10 either.
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Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.

[Stacey Robinson]

Hi all,
I’m using the iPhone 5S.
Is there a way I can 
 record on my phone quickly?
Thanks,
Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 

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Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.

[Phil Halton]

Dropvox and boss jock Junior are two apps that come to mind right away.
Both apps are basically one tap to record type apps and in the case of drop vox 
it uploads you're recording to your dropbox. Boss job Junior is very easy to 
use and lets you record and save recordings to dropbox and other areas. They're 
both free apps as well.
Sent from my IPhone


> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I’m using the iPhone 5S.
> Is there a way I can 
>  record on my phone quickly?
> Thanks,
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>   
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Re: bootcamp not appearing in startup disk prefs

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Fairly common occurrence, unfortunately.

If you have sight, use the Option key at boot to select Windows and see if it 
starts and runs.  Even if you don’t, try guessing; hold Option at the chime and 
then press, say, left and then enter.

You can use the bless command from Terminal to set up the boot device.  I can 
describe how, but the steps are quite involved, so it would be nice if you 
could use the Option-key method first.

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Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I have read that you're supposed to be able to record in dropbox, but when I 
look in the app I see no way to do it. How does one record in dropbox?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Dropvox and boss jock Junior are two apps that come to mind right away.
> Both apps are basically one tap to record type apps and in the case of drop 
> vox it uploads you're recording to your dropbox. Boss job Junior is very easy 
> to use and lets you record and save recordings to dropbox and other areas. 
> They're both free apps as well.
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I’m using the iPhone 5S.
>> Is there a way I can 
>>  record on my phone quickly?
>> Thanks,
>> Blessings,
>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>>  
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Re: bootcamp not appearing in startup disk prefs

[eileen . misrahi]

I know that if the last operating system used will be highlighted with the 
cursor on it in the startup much
menu when the option key is held down at boot. Arrow to the right twice and hit 
enter. The recovery for the Mac is in the 2nd position and then the Windows 
link. Press enter and that should do it. This of course if there are no other 
volumes in the startup window is present. HTH.

Eileen

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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Fairly common occurrence, unfortunately.
> 
> If you have sight, use the Option key at boot to select Windows and see if it 
> starts and runs.  Even if you don’t, try guessing; hold Option at the chime 
> and then press, say, left and then enter.
> 
> You can use the bless command from Terminal to set up the boot device.  I can 
> describe how, but the steps are quite involved, so it would be nice if you 
> could use the Option-key method first.
> 
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RE: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.

[george b]

Donna,

 

You need to open the app called dropvox  notice it is vox for voice not box for 
box

If you do not have the dropvox  app it is free in the app store on your phone

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 16:50
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.

 

Hi all,

I have read that you're supposed to be able to record in dropbox, but when I 
look in the app I see no way to do it. How does one record in dropbox?
Cheers,
Donna


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Phil Halton mailto:philh...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Dropvox and boss jock Junior are two apps that come to mind right away.
Both apps are basically one tap to record type apps and in the case of drop vox 
it uploads you're recording to your dropbox. Boss job Junior is very easy to 
use and lets you record and save recordings to dropbox and other areas. They're 
both free apps as well.

Sent from my IPhone

 


On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Stacey Robinson mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Hi all,

I’m using the iPhone 5S.

Is there a way I can 

 record on my phone quickly?

Thanks,

Blessings,

Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.



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Re: OS X bugs to test for in 10.11?

[Alex Hall]

I know it's been a while, but I somehow only just noticed this message. I've 
never lost my place in my inbox, no matter which OS I've been using, so I don't 
know that this is a universal bug. I'd also add that, to make your life easier, 
you can use option-up arrow to jump to the top of the list instead of having to 
interact and use vo-shift-fn-left.
> On Jul 24, 2015, at 17:00, Marcia Yale  wrote:
> 
> It would be nice if the cursor would land at the top of the inbox in Mail 
> again, rather than at the bottom. If anyone knows of a fix for this 
> annoyance, I'm interested. I know it's not difficult to interact with the 
> messages, hit fn-shift-VO-left-arrow, but there was no need to do this a few 
> OS's ago.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 11:30 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: OS X bugs to test for in 10.11?
> 
> Report an issue where in system preferences, under the sound category, 
> VoiceOver automatically selects the tab your focused on, without you having 
> to press VO+space. This makes it rather difficult to navigate a tab, 
> especially if it’s not the tab you intended to stop on.
>> On Jul 11, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm willing to do the same.  If you find something, let me know, and I'll 
>> test it, and if I can reproduce, I'll file it, but again, I won't be 
>> discussing its outcome, I'm sorry.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:53 PM
>> Subject: OS X bugs to test for in 10.11?
>> 
>> 
>> Hello list,
>> Like some of you, I'm now testing 10.11. I'll not be discussing it, due to 
>> the NDA, but I want to test as much as I can. Please let me know what bugs 
>> you're experiencing so I can  confirm them; if they're fixed, great, but if 
>> not, I want to tell Apple as soon as I can. I know about the bug list 
>> AppleVis keeps, but there's no guarantee we have every bug on there. Note 
>> that I can't test foreign language or braille display bugs, and remember 
>> that I won't be reporting back on the status of anything you send. Thanks!
>> 
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removing files from old Time Machine backups?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
Quick question: is there any way to modify a Time Machine backup? I have a 
couple stored on an old hard drive, and the hard drive is dying. I'd like to go 
through and delete all the files I no longer need, so that I can then copy the 
rest whenever I replace the drive. I'm told that I can't modify backup files, 
though. Time Machine isn't set up on this Mac, because there's nowhere for 
backups to go. Any ideas on how I can access and move/delete files in these old 
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Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.

[Donna Goodin]

OK, right.  I thought that Dropbox had incorporated this capability.  Last I 
knew Dropvox didn't work with current versions of IOS?  Is that no longer the 
case?
thanks,
Donna
> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:56 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>  
> You need to open the app called dropvox  notice it is vox for voice not box 
> for box
> If you do not have the dropvox  app it is free in the app store on your phone
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 16:50
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.
>  
> Hi all,
> 
> I have read that you're supposed to be able to record in dropbox, but when I 
> look in the app I see no way to do it. How does one record in dropbox?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Phil Halton  > wrote:
> 
>> Dropvox and boss jock Junior are two apps that come to mind right away.
>> Both apps are basically one tap to record type apps and in the case of drop 
>> vox it uploads you're recording to your dropbox. Boss job Junior is very 
>> easy to use and lets you record and save recordings to dropbox and other 
>> areas. They're both free apps as well.
>> Sent from my IPhone
>>  
>> 
>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Stacey Robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I’m using the iPhone 5S.
>>> Is there a way I can 
>>>  record on my phone quickly?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Blessings,
>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>>> 
>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 
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Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.

[E.T.]

   Dropvox works just fine in iOS 8.4.1.

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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/7/2015 6:21 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

OK, right.  I thought that Dropbox had incorporated this capability.
  Last I knew Dropvox didn't work with current versions of IOS?  Is that
no longer the case?
thanks,
Donna

On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:56 PM, george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Donna,
You need to open the app called dropvox  notice it is vox for voice
not box for box
If you do not have the dropvox  app it is free in the app store on
your phone
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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Behalf Of*Donna Goodin
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*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Subject:*Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.
Hi all,

I have read that you're supposed to be able to record in dropbox, but
when I look in the app I see no way to do it. How does one record in
dropbox?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Phil Halton mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Dropvox and boss jock Junior are two apps that come to mind right away.
Both apps are basically one tap to record type apps and in the case
of drop vox it uploads you're recording to your dropbox. Boss job
Junior is very easy to use and lets you record and save recordings to
dropbox and other areas. They're both free apps as well.
Sent from my IPhone


On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Stacey Robinson mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:


Hi all,
I’m using the iPhone 5S.
Is there a way I can
 record on my phone quickly?
Thanks,
Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
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Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.

[David Tanner]

I've been using dropbox for several years and it is always worked with the 
current version of iOS and works fine with the current version and Frank works 
very well thank you.

David Tanner

>From my iPhone 6 

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> OK, right.  I thought that Dropbox had incorporated this capability.  Last I 
> knew Dropvox didn't work with current versions of IOS?  Is that no longer the 
> case?
> thanks,
> Donna
>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:56 PM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>>  
>> You need to open the app called dropvox  notice it is vox for voice not box 
>> for box
>> If you do not have the dropvox  app it is free in the app store on your phone
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 16:50
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have read that you're supposed to be able to record in dropbox, but when I 
>> look in the app I see no way to do it. How does one record in dropbox?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> Dropvox and boss jock Junior are two apps that come to mind right away.
>>> Both apps are basically one tap to record type apps and in the case of drop 
>>> vox it uploads you're recording to your dropbox. Boss job Junior is very 
>>> easy to use and lets you record and save recordings to dropbox and other 
>>> areas. They're both free apps as well.
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>  
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Stacey Robinson  
 wrote:
 Hi all,
 I’m using the iPhone 5S.
 Is there a way I can 
  record on my phone quickly?
 Thanks,
 Blessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
 
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PAIRING BLUETOOTH EARPIECE WITHIPHONE 5S

[Marie Lyons]

I HAVE A PLANTRONICS EDGE I BELIEVE AS IT CHARGES BY CONNECTING BY USB.  HOW DO 
YOU PAIR THEM?  IS THIS SOMETHING WHICH REQUIRES SIGHTED ASSISTANCE?
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Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.

[Donna Goodin]

Good to know.  Thanks.
Donna
> On Sep 7, 2015, at 9:09 PM, David Tanner  wrote:
> 
> I've been using dropbox for several years and it is always worked with the 
> current version of iOS and works fine with the current version and Frank 
> works very well thank you.
> 
> David Tanner
> 
> From my iPhone 6 
> 
> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
>> OK, right.  I thought that Dropbox had incorporated this capability.  Last I 
>> knew Dropvox didn't work with current versions of IOS?  Is that no longer 
>> the case?
>> thanks,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:56 PM, george b >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>  
>>> You need to open the app called dropvox  notice it is vox for voice not box 
>>> for box
>>> If you do not have the dropvox  app it is free in the app store on your 
>>> phone
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 16:50
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Quick and easy way to record on iPhone.
>>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have read that you're supposed to be able to record in dropbox, but when 
>>> I look in the app I see no way to do it. How does one record in dropbox?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Phil Halton >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Dropvox and boss jock Junior are two apps that come to mind right away.
 Both apps are basically one tap to record type apps and in the case of 
 drop vox it uploads you're recording to your dropbox. Boss job Junior is 
 very easy to use and lets you record and save recordings to dropbox and 
 other areas. They're both free apps as well.
 Sent from my IPhone
  
 
 On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Stacey Robinson >>> > wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I’m using the iPhone 5S.
> Is there a way I can 
>  record on my phone quickly?
> Thanks,
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
> 
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Disproving A Rumour The Hard Way: On Cepstral and CereVoice

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Summary: CereVoice and Cepstral are too crash-prone, laggy and inaccurate to be 
bothering with for any serious uses.  Stick to what Apple provides, plus 
Acapela as a fair second.

I had sufficient data on my 3G plan that I thought I’d get the two TTS engines. 
 The trials were inadequate to test screen reader performance, of course.  And 
the test strings always sound much better than anything you provide, if for no 
other reason than that reading is a very different experience from using a 
screen reader.

The costs are not too favourable.  There are 19 English-speaking CereVoice 
voices, at £25.99 each (about $39.70).  Then there’s a per-voice care package, 
at £17.99 each (about $27.48).  For Cepstral, there are 21 voices including a 
few novelty voices such as dog and Whispery, each going for $35.  For 
comparison, InfoVox iVox voice credits can be bought, one a voice for 
installation on one computer (yay for the curse that is activation!), for 
$14.99 each, and there are discounts for purchases of 5 or more (20%), 15 or 
more (30%), 30 or more (40%) and 125 or more (50%); if I were to purchase the 
40 voices I now have for one Mac, it would cost just $359.76.

You download the voices from the web pages at the sites; Cepstral voices are 
also demos, while CereVoice requires you log into an account and use a 
short-lived but refreshable download link (10 minutes) for each voice.  
VoiceOver couldn’t activate the links inside tables, as it so often doesn’t; I 
had to save the page source and tamper with it to make the links clickable.  As 
you may imagine, the latter presented some difficulty for me on 3G; I ended up 
scripting the retrieval of the downloads on a remote machine and then 
downloading them to my local machine at my own leisure.  Both engines are 
provided as OS X installer packages, one per voice, but nothing like iVox; 
there are no central accounts, only a license key for each voice.  Cepstral was 
markedly better here, with the installers being at least scriptable using the 
installer command, and the keys entered in System Preferences; CereVoice popped 
up a license dialog during installation that requested a fiddly multi-line key 
that you copied and pasted from email, so while it could be mostly automated, 
one had to be careful to dump information into Terminal to find out which 
package you were licensing.  The packages contain the voice, the engine and the 
license management framework, so duplication and wasted download time and 
bandwidth.  Still, there is something to be said for avoiding having an agent 
watch over your shoulder using the Internet activation system, as is the case 
with iVox.  Tragically, Cepstral made the supreme mistake of calling their TTS 
engine “swift”, and the even more unfortunate misstep of installing a binary, 
/usr/bin/swift, to offer command-line playback.  And yes, that overwrites the 
binary put their by the operating system and Xcode.  This OS installation is 
trashed.

As to the voices themselves, it was very refreshing to see so much British 
diversity in CereVoice, but mostly because the company is based in Scotland and 
therefore presumably liable to get more British and Scottish voices.  Cepstral, 
by contrast, only really offered two UK voices, and the rest are US english.  
Obviously this is a concern more for off-worlders (i.e., people not living in 
the US) but I’m not really familiar enough with the accents of other 
English-speaking countries outside the US or UK, so I can’t really say.  All of 
the voices are passable for different kinds of reading, CereVoice more so than 
Cepstral, in my opinion, but they are simply unusable for VoiceOver.  They lag, 
freeze, crash, overlap themselves in times of stress—in short, only use for 
dedicated reading applications.  My favourites are CereVoice Sarah and Cepstral 
Laurence.

Maybe I will reinstall these voices in future, for my entertainment or if they 
are updated.  CereVoice additionally charges for support and maintenance, which 
I ultimately paid.  However, I don’t recommend anybody else get them.  The 
costs aren’t really justified for that.  Some might argue that any money spent 
on TTS is too much, or that we don’t have real choices or anything formant, but 
at least iVox gives you a nice, responsive alternative to the incumbents.  
Perhaps Mac OS isn’t a platform either vendor would prefer to support; certain 
things, like the way the packages are installed, certainly suggest it.  Still, 
as I said at the top, I don’t think it’s worth the bother, and there’s a very 
strong likelihood that the day I reinstall these voices will never come.

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anker batteries

[Jean]

Jesica:
I get 2 and a half charges on the i phone 5. Other devices would vary depending 
on their power consumption.
Jean

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Re: Disproving A Rumour The Hard Way: On Cepstral and CereVoice

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. I have a lot of the Cereproc voices you speak of. They are Jack, Sarah and 
Sue for UK English, Katherine, Isabella and Nathan for US English. Under 
Yosemite, I never experienced the freezing or crashing that you speak of with 
Voiceover. I can't say much about El Capitan due to NDA with Apple, but telling 
people not to buy it isn't fair. Other people's experiences might differ 
compared to yours like I've just illustrated. The fair thing to say is just try 
them and if you don't like them, you can uninstall them.
As for Cepstral, you have a valid point. Even though they updated their voices, 
they crash a lot. Un top of that, the volume isn't that good anyway. I had to 
crank my volume to hear what they were saying. Not Voiceover's volume because 
it was at the maximum, but my Mac's actual volume. Also, I was disappointed 
about their quality when I installed the update. I bought Dallas from them and 
I found that he was still very choppy sounding. I also heard a sample of Will 
and he still sounded monotone and bored. And one of our channels here in Canada 
uses his voice for our Emergency Alert System here or Alert Ready as they call 
it.

Shawn
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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Summary: CereVoice and Cepstral are too crash-prone, laggy and inaccurate to 
> be bothering with for any serious uses.  Stick to what Apple provides, plus 
> Acapela as a fair second.
> 
> I had sufficient data on my 3G plan that I thought I’d get the two TTS 
> engines.  The trials were inadequate to test screen reader performance, of 
> course.  And the test strings always sound much better than anything you 
> provide, if for no other reason than that reading is a very different 
> experience from using a screen reader.
> 
> The costs are not too favourable.  There are 19 English-speaking CereVoice 
> voices, at £25.99 each (about $39.70).  Then there’s a per-voice care 
> package, at £17.99 each (about $27.48).  For Cepstral, there are 21 voices 
> including a few novelty voices such as dog and Whispery, each going for $35.  
> For comparison, InfoVox iVox voice credits can be bought, one a voice for 
> installation on one computer (yay for the curse that is activation!), for 
> $14.99 each, and there are discounts for purchases of 5 or more (20%), 15 or 
> more (30%), 30 or more (40%) and 125 or more (50%); if I were to purchase the 
> 40 voices I now have for one Mac, it would cost just $359.76.
> 
> You download the voices from the web pages at the sites; Cepstral voices are 
> also demos, while CereVoice requires you log into an account and use a 
> short-lived but refreshable download link (10 minutes) for each voice.  
> VoiceOver couldn’t activate the links inside tables, as it so often doesn’t; 
> I had to save the page source and tamper with it to make the links clickable. 
>  As you may imagine, the latter presented some difficulty for me on 3G; I 
> ended up scripting the retrieval of the downloads on a remote machine and 
> then downloading them to my local machine at my own leisure.  Both engines 
> are provided as OS X installer packages, one per voice, but nothing like 
> iVox; there are no central accounts, only a license key for each voice.  
> Cepstral was markedly better here, with the installers being at least 
> scriptable using the installer command, and the keys entered in System 
> Preferences; CereVoice popped up a license dialog during installation that 
> requested a fiddly multi-line key that you copied and pasted from email, so 
> while it could be mostly automated, one had to be careful to dump information 
> into Terminal to find out which package you were licensing.  The packages 
> contain the voice, the engine and the license management framework, so 
> duplication and wasted download time and bandwidth.  Still, there is 
> something to be said for avoiding having an agent watch over your shoulder 
> using the Internet activation system, as is the case with iVox.  Tragically, 
> Cepstral made the supreme mistake of calling their TTS engine “swift”, and 
> the even more unfortunate misstep of installing a binary, /usr/bin/swift, to 
> offer command-line playback.  And yes, that overwrites the binary put their 
> by the operating system and Xcode.  This OS installation is trashed.
> 
> As to the voices themselves, it was very refreshing to see so much British 
> diversity in CereVoice, but mostly because the company is based in Scotland 
> and therefore presumably liable to get more British and Scottish voices.  
> Cepstral, by contrast, only really offered two UK voices, and the rest are US 
> english.  Obviously this is a concern more for off-worlders (i.e., people not 
> living in the US) but I’m not really familiar enough with the accents of 
> other English-speaking countries outside the US or UK,

Re: Disproving A Rumour The Hard Way: On Cepstral and CereVoice

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Yes, it sounds like we’re talking about the same voices.

While I’m happy that at least CereVoice is working for you, I’m running the 
current stable Yosemite build and can’t get five minutes out of them without at 
least a freeze sufficient to cause me to have to restart VO.  So, for now at 
least, I have to stand by my initial recommendation.  I have yet to listen to 
very long passages with either, though I have a feeling that will prove more 
successful.  Still, the Acapela voices work fine for both scenarios.  I have 
ProblemReporter logging to Notification Centre so I will see if there is hard 
data to prove my suspicions, but I don’t think CereVoice or Cepstral—but 
especially Cepstral—are stable enough to use.  If I knew what I know now, I 
wouldn’t have felt any need to buy them.

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Re: anker batteries

[Ray Foret Jr]

Wow!  What phone do you use?  Also, remind me again what specific Anker battery 
you use to get that 2-1/2 charges.  Might try that for long home videos.  
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!!!

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Jean  wrote:
> 
> Jesica:
> I get 2 and a half charges on the i phone 5. Other devices would vary 
> depending on their power consumption.
> Jean
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Re: audio editing software

[Maria Chapman]

HI.  thanks for the link, do these tutorials explain how to do things with 
voice over?

Maria

> On 8 Sep 2015, at 5:57 am, Devin Prater  wrote:
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> Yes, Audacity works fine on the mac. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Alan Lemly  > wrote:
> 
>> Maria, 
>> 
>> I don't know how well these work with VoiceOver but I assume the site is 
>> accessible through your browser. It works well in safari on my iPhone 6. 
>> These Wiki tutorials cover a variety of topics on using Audacity. 
>> 
>> See the link following my signature.
>> 
>> Good luck. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Category:Tutorial 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Maria Chapman > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi does anyone have a podcast or tutorial on using sound studio or audacity 
>>> with voice over? Am looking to do some basic audio editing like cutting 
>>> things out of files etc.
>>> 
>>> thanks
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