Family sharing - A few questions

[David Hole]

Hi.

I've tried searching the internet for this, but I didn't find any 
information about it, so I hope you can help me:

1. I am organizer for a Family, and the rest of the Family have their own 
Apple IDs with their own visa Cards Connected.
Who will be charged for the purchases, and if I have set it up to ask 
wether I accept or deny the purchase, will the person be able to pay with 
hes/her own card?


2. If I remove a person from my family, what happens with hes/her purchases 
that have been purchased With my account? Do that peson have to buy the app 
once again?

The reason for this is that I would like to have a Family of Apple Music, 
but the other ones buy their own apps/Movies.

Thanks for good answers.

Best regards David

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Re: entering characters by unicode number?

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I believe you can do this with the option key. Vut far simpler in in the long 
run would be to use a different keyboardlayout. Have you asked accessibility or 
looked in the international area of system settings? 


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> As I indicated in an earlier message, I need to be able to enter the 
> International Phonetic Alphabet on my Mac.  It's looking like the easiest way 
> to do this may be to memorize the unicode numbers and enter the characters 
> that way.  So here's my question: once I have the numbers at hand, how do I 
> enter them on a Mac?  Any help is much appreciated.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: entering characters by unicode number?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi John,

I've been looking *everywhere in system settings! :) I did not ask 
accessibility b/c I didn't figure it was an accessibility issue, but maybe I'll 
give that a try.  I know that sighted users drag and drop characters from a 
pallet, so thinking of it that way, I suppose accessibility is involved.  
Thanks for the suggestion.
Best,
Donna
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 7:05 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I believe you can do this with the option key. Vut far simpler in in the long 
> run would be to use a different keyboardlayout. Have you asked accessibility 
> or looked in the international area of system settings? 
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As I indicated in an earlier message, I need to be able to enter the 
>> International Phonetic Alphabet on my Mac.  It's looking like the easiest 
>> way to do this may be to memorize the unicode numbers and enter the 
>> characters that way.  So here's my question: once I have the numbers at 
>> hand, how do I enter them on a Mac?  Any help is much appreciated.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Unicode entry issue solved

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

OK, I've got the Unicode entry issue solved.  In case anyone else is dying to 
know, John was right, you have to add Unicode as one of your input sources.  
then you can switch to that input source and enter the hex number.

Now I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Accessibility can suggest an easier way 
to do this. :)
Cheers,
Donna


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Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Guys,

Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.

First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very very! likely 
that I may just not be understanding things entirely.  I don't clame to be 
perfect.

I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system running 
Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list ironically.  Anyway, they had 
to recently repair disk permissions on their main internal Macintosh HD.  They 
can't upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't support it.  Anyway, they have 
misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their system.  Further, they 
don't have any other bootable partition internally nor externally.  So here 
lies my question.

How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or another bootable 
partition to repair permissions on their main primary macintosh HD volume?

Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, Snowleopard 
didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally, after Lion and higher, you 
could just boot, and hold down command+R to go to recovery.  From here, you 
could run Disk Utility, and repair permissions.  That's not going to work 
though in SL, as there's no recovery that I recall, hince why you got a 
physical DVD back in the days.

You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the OS though, as 
certain files and folders will be in use, and the volume will be locked, 
therefore not allowing a repair to be done.  So, with no media, and no external 
bootable partition, and no recovery partition, how in the world is he/she doing 
this?  Either something's not adding up here, or I'm just thoroughly confused, 
and my guess is, probably the ladder.  Just curious what on earth I'm missing 
here.  Enlighten me.

Chris.

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Re: Attention Alex Hall, or anyone else who thinks they can help.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'll send it to you, if you never got it.

Just let me know.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Quinn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:48 AM
  Subject: Re: Attention Alex Hall, or anyone else who thinks they can help.


  Did do send it to me too

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 31, 2015, at 5:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


Shawn, that would be very very appreciated.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn Krasniuk 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Attention Alex Hall, or anyone else who thinks they can help.


  Hi Chris and Joe. I just looked in my scripts folder in Finder in the 
library folder and I think I found them. One is called Folder Actions Scripts 
and one is called just folder actions. I don't know if you need both of them, 
but Chris I can send them to you through Skype and Joe I can send them to you 
if you email me off list. I'll send them both just in case you do need both of 
them. 


  Shawn
  Sent From My White MacBook
  Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
  Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
  Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
  Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Aug 31, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


I have had a system crash about a half a year ago.  I totally forgot 
about this until someone on this list who'll be left unnamed reminded me last 
night about this.

Alex, I think it was, created a set of Apple scripts a while back.  
There were things in there such as reading the status of the wifi and of the 
battery level, bluetooth status, etc.  One of the really cool scripts though 
was one that in Safari when a download was in progress, it would tell you when 
the download was finnished, and you also, I think, could query the percentage 
completion of the download.

I have looked all over the darn place on my flash drives and cannot 
find those scripts anywhere to save my life!  I'd like to install them on my 
Yosemite 10.10.5 system.

Would someone be so kind as to send me a Dropbox or sendspace link to 
these scripts?  Either that, or if they're small enough, then just attach them 
to an e-mail?

clgillan...@gmail.com

Also, I'm going to need a refresher on where to put the scripts and how 
to get them working.

I'm so so sorry for this guys.  Really, I could a sworn I had them 
still, but apparently I don't.  My friend was going to send them to me, but he 
couldn't remember the file names, or what he needed exactly to zip up for me.  
I think he'll gladly do it, if no one else has them, but we'd just need to know 
what he needs to send my way.

Thank you in advance profusely.

Chris.


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Re: Problems with Mac DVD Ripper Pro

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Actually, my ultimate goal is to keep both the audio and the video, and rip 
to an mpeg, or AVI, or .mov, or the like.


Yes, it would be done with store bought DVD's, so they'd need to be 
decrypted, and no, I'm not doing this illegally.  I'm only doing it for my 
own digital backup sake.  I'm not stupid.


Chris.

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From: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Problems with Mac DVD Ripper Pro


There is also RipIt which will make a playable backup of your DVD onto
your hard drive. From there you could probably use handbrake or the like
to extract the audio. RipIt is $25.
http://thelittleappfactory.com/ripit/
Handbrake is free
https://handbrake.fr

CB

On 8/31/15 8:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

A few questions.

This won't help at all with your problem, but you do have me curious. 
Will Mac DVD Ripper Pro only rip the audio, or does it also rip the video 
portion of the DVD as well.  Second off, if it'll rip the video as well, 
then how much is this app?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:31 PM
Subject: Problems with Mac DVD Ripper Pro


Hey all,

I finally got around to ripping my DVD library and all of the sudden I am 
having severe issues with Mac DVD Ripper Pro and I wanted to see if anyone 
else is having issues like these. I ripped a bunch of DVDs store bought 
and some non store bough but now for most DVDs either I get stuck in a 
preparing conversion screen and the disc never starts ripping, the drive 
fails to recognize the disc as it will be on my desktop but Mac DVD ripper 
just keeps saying scanning scanning, or the Disc will rip but not in to a 
playable format for any program on my computer. It creates a file but does 
not automatically put in to iTunes. I am running the latest version of Mac 
DVD Ripper Pro which I believe is 5.0.6, and I just ripped one disc 
successfully but now I am stuck in a preparing conversion screen yet 
again. Any help is greatly appreciated. I have restarted my computer, and 
also deleted Mac DVD Ripper Pro and reinstalled it but when reinstalled it 
already had me as the registered user so thinking maybe it did not delete 
completely. Thanks,




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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a disk 
permission repair on the running system. Not sure if it is able to fix 
as many things as when booted from another system but you do have the 
option. You can't do a disk repair on the currently running system.


CB

On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys,
Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.
First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very very! 
likely that I may just not be understanding things entirely.  I don't 
clame to be perfect.
I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system running 
Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list ironically.  Anyway, 
they had to recently repair disk permissions on their main internal 
Macintosh HD.  They can't upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't 
support it.  Anyway, they have misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which 
came with their system.  Further, they don't have any other bootable 
partition internally nor externally.  So here lies my question.
How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or another 
bootable partition to repair permissions on their main primary 
macintosh HD volume?
Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, 
Snowleopard didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally, after 
Lion and higher, you could just boot, and hold down command+R to go to 
recovery.  From here, you could run Disk Utility, and repair 
permissions.  That's not going to work though in SL, as there's no 
recovery that I recall, hince why you got a physical DVD back in the days.
You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the OS 
though, as certain files and folders will be in use, and the volume 
will be locked, therefore not allowing a repair to be done.  So, with 
no media, and no external bootable partition, and no recovery 
partition, how in the world is he/she doing this?  Either something's 
not adding up here, or I'm just thoroughly confused, and my guess is, 
probably the ladder.  Just curious what on earth I'm missing here.  
Enlighten me.

Chris.
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Text elements

[Marie Lyons]

What are they? How do you interact with them? Since I'm a newby I'm going to be 
asking a lot of questions.

Marie 
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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

An addition to chris B's explanation, as the root user, in any MacOS version, 
you are able to manipulate and/or modify permissions on any active files.  
This, in itself, is scary and one of the reasons why you need to be very 
cautious when doing anything as the root user or even enabling the root user.  
So, repairing permissions does not require a Recovery Partition nor a separate 
startup volume, you just may be limited in what gets repaired.  In 95% of the 
cases that something needs repaired, it can be done while still logged in to 
the running system.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 2, 2015, at 08:53, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a disk permission 
repair on the running system. Not sure if it is able to fix as many things as 
when booted from another system but you do have the option. You can't do a disk 
repair on the currently running system.

CB

On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> Guys,
>  
> Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.
>  
> First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very very! likely 
> that I may just not be understanding things entirely.  I don't clame to be 
> perfect.
>  
> I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system running 
> Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list ironically.  Anyway, they had 
> to recently repair disk permissions on their main internal Macintosh HD.  
> They can't upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't support it.  Anyway, 
> they have misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their system.  
> Further, they don't have any other bootable partition internally nor 
> externally.  So here lies my question.
>  
> How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or another bootable 
> partition to repair permissions on their main primary macintosh HD volume?
>  
> Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, Snowleopard 
> didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally, after Lion and higher, 
> you could just boot, and hold down command+R to go to recovery.  From here, 
> you could run Disk Utility, and repair permissions.  That's not going to work 
> though in SL, as there's no recovery that I recall, hince why you got a 
> physical DVD back in the days.
>  
> You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the OS though, 
> as certain files and folders will be in use, and the volume will be locked, 
> therefore not allowing a repair to be done.  So, with no media, and no 
> external bootable partition, and no recovery partition, how in the world is 
> he/she doing this?  Either something's not adding up here, or I'm just 
> thoroughly confused, and my guess is, probably the ladder.  Just curious what 
> on earth I'm missing here.  Enlighten me.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Text elements

[venky . 92]

Hi, 
If I get your question right, you are talking about VoiceOver saying text when 
you navigate. When you encounter a text element, interact with it. To do this, 
press vo shift and down if quick nav turned off or down and right with quick 
nav enabled 
Then you can navigate using the general navigation keys to read the text. 
Hope this helps. 
Thank you. 
Venkatesh 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> What are they? How do you interact with them? Since I'm a newby I'm going to 
> be asking a lot of questions.
> 
> Marie 
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Powerline adaptors

[Adrienne Chalmers]

Hi

I have terrible  wifi coverage in my house and find basic wifi repeaters don’t 
quite cut it.

I was wondering about the type of signal booster which uses the electric power 
lines in the house, but haven’t really got a clue about what to look for and 
how accessible the set up for them is with VO.

Anyone got any reviews, warnings or tips about these devices? I would 
particularly be looking for devices which work in the UK and which I could use 
my iPhone with, as well as my Mac, so couldn’t use one which relied entirely on 
an ethernet connection.

Best

Adrienne

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Re: Unicode entry issue solved

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I did find a IPA keyboard available on the net. Is the international phonetic 
alphabet what you need? The page I found is off of sil.org




Jonathan Cohn 

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 8:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> OK, I've got the Unicode entry issue solved.  In case anyone else is dying to 
> know, John was right, you have to add Unicode as one of your input sources.  
> then you can switch to that input source and enter the hex number.
> 
> Now I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Accessibility can suggest an easier 
> way to do this. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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Re: Text elements

[Alex Hall]

True, but remember that there's no advantage to interacting with text in 
general. Scroll areas or groups should be interacted with, else you'll miss 
what's inside them. Text, though, is read in full when you land on it. 
Interacting is useful if you need to review it word by word or character by 
character, but if you don't need to, there's no need to interact. Very rarely, 
text will be cut off and not read in full unless you interact, but I've only 
ever seen that happen in one section of one app that most people will never use 
(Xcode).
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 12:15 PM, venky...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> If I get your question right, you are talking about VoiceOver saying text 
> when you navigate. When you encounter a text element, interact with it. To do 
> this, press vo shift and down if quick nav turned off or down and right with 
> quick nav enabled 
> Then you can navigate using the general navigation keys to read the text. 
> Hope this helps. 
> Thank you. 
> Venkatesh 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Marie Lyons  > wrote:
> 
>> What are they? How do you interact with them? Since I'm a newby I'm going to 
>> be asking a lot of questions.
>> 
>> Marie 
>>  Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Family sharing - A few questions

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi David,

As the family organizer, you are responsible for paying for all the app 
purchases.

If you remove somebody from the family, I think that you keep the apps you 
bought, but you can no longer share them with that person.

As far as I know, you can’t purchase only one type of thing as the organizer, 
but let them purchase things with their own credit cards.

As a way around this, why not get everybody i tunes gift cards?  This way, 
apple will take off their purchases from their gift allotment before they 
charge your card, as long as they have credit on their gift card..  Just a 
thought.

hth,
Caitlyn

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 4:27 AM, David Hole  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I've tried searching the internet for this, but I didn't find any information 
> about it, so I hope you can help me:
> 
> 1. I am organizer for a Family, and the rest of the Family have their own 
> Apple IDs with their own visa Cards Connected.
> Who will be charged for the purchases, and if I have set it up to ask wether 
> I accept or deny the purchase, will the person be able to pay with hes/her 
> own card?
> 
> 
> 2. If I remove a person from my family, what happens with hes/her purchases 
> that have been purchased With my account? Do that peson have to buy the app 
> once again?
> 
> The reason for this is that I would like to have a Family of Apple Music, but 
> the other ones buy their own apps/Movies.
> 
> Thanks for good answers.
> 
> Best regards David
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Cleanmymac is not working for me.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have cleanmymac 3 on my Mac mini.
But when i run it there is nothing to focus on.
It seems to start but voiceover can not focus on it.
WHen i cmd tab until i hear vo announcing cleanmymac 3 but it can’t move 
voiceover cursor or mouse or keyboard focus there.
When i press spacebar in that non visible window it seems to exit.
So i really don’t know whats up.
This seem to happen from time to time with some aplications on the mac.
/A

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Re: Looking for check writing application

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Intuit has been working on BO compatible for Quicken This might be overkill for 
your purposes. If your primary goal is writing checks for bills, then most 
banks have a ePay system that can handle payments in a more controlled fashion 
than paper checks. The downside, is you need to ensure your system is secure. 
. 


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:52 PM, William Gallik  wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a check writing application for my mac mini similar to 
> talking checkbook for Z Windows PC. Does anyone have any advice or 
> suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Bill 😎
> - Sent from "Bill's iPhone 6"
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Re: Cleanmymac is not working for me.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Sometimes restarting VoiceOver will solve issues like this. I mostly see this 
type of occurrence when I run the computer until the battery forces a shutdown.



Jonathan Cohn 

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have cleanmymac 3 on my Mac mini.
> But when i run it there is nothing to focus on.
> It seems to start but voiceover can not focus on it.
> WHen i cmd tab until i hear vo announcing cleanmymac 3 but it can’t move 
> voiceover cursor or mouse or keyboard focus there.
> When i press spacebar in that non visible window it seems to exit.
> So i really don’t know whats up.
> This seem to happen from time to time with some aplications on the mac.
> /A
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Re: Powerline adaptors

[Shaf]

They're beautiful.
There's no 'accessibility' issues you need to worry about, they're
literally plug and play, just need to pare both devices with the buttons
on both of them.
Let me know if you want a link to a model.


-Shaf

On 9/2/2015 5:20 PM, Adrienne Chalmers wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have terrible  wifi coverage in my house and find basic wifi repeaters 
> don’t quite cut it.
> 
> I was wondering about the type of signal booster which uses the electric 
> power lines in the house, but haven’t really got a clue about what to look 
> for and how accessible the set up for them is with VO.
> 
> Anyone got any reviews, warnings or tips about these devices? I would 
> particularly be looking for devices which work in the UK and which I could 
> use my iPhone with, as well as my Mac, so couldn’t use one which relied 
> entirely on an ethernet connection.
> 
> Best
> 
> Adrienne
> 

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RE: Looking for check writing application

[george b]

John,

 

The new quicken for mac is not very accessible, but on the other hand maybe we 
will see some major inprovements.  I was told by my brother that intuit sold 
their quicken program line to another company.

 

Lets hope!!

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:12
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for check writing application

 

Intuit has been working on BO compatible for Quicken This might be overkill for 
your purposes. If your primary goal is writing checks for bills, then most 
banks have a ePay system that can handle payments in a more controlled fashion 
than paper checks. The downside, is you need to ensure your system is secure. 

. 



Jonathan Cohn 


On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:52 PM, William Gallik mailto:wfgal...@icloud.com> > wrote:

I am looking for a check writing application for my mac mini similar to talking 
checkbook for Z Windows PC. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions?

 

 



- Bill 😎

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RE: Powerline adaptors

[george b]

Could I have some models of these, please.

thanks

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Shaf
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:26
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Powerline adaptors

They're beautiful.
There's no 'accessibility' issues you need to worry about, they're
literally plug and play, just need to pare both devices with the buttons
on both of them.
Let me know if you want a link to a model.


-Shaf

On 9/2/2015 5:20 PM, Adrienne Chalmers wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have terrible  wifi coverage in my house and find basic wifi repeaters 
> don’t quite cut it.
> 
> I was wondering about the type of signal booster which uses the electric 
> power lines in the house, but haven’t really got a clue about what to look 
> for and how accessible the set up for them is with VO.
> 
> Anyone got any reviews, warnings or tips about these devices? I would 
> particularly be looking for devices which work in the UK and which I could 
> use my iPhone with, as well as my Mac, so couldn’t use one which relied 
> entirely on an ethernet connection.
> 
> Best
> 
> Adrienne
> 

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Re: Powerline adaptors

[Faisal ali]

Me too, for that matter.
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 1:29 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Could I have some models of these, please.
> 
> thanks
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaf
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:26
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Powerline adaptors
> 
> They're beautiful.
> There's no 'accessibility' issues you need to worry about, they're
> literally plug and play, just need to pare both devices with the buttons
> on both of them.
> Let me know if you want a link to a model.
> 
> 
> -Shaf
> 
> On 9/2/2015 5:20 PM, Adrienne Chalmers wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I have terrible  wifi coverage in my house and find basic wifi repeaters 
>> don’t quite cut it.
>> 
>> I was wondering about the type of signal booster which uses the electric 
>> power lines in the house, but haven’t really got a clue about what to look 
>> for and how accessible the set up for them is with VO.
>> 
>> Anyone got any reviews, warnings or tips about these devices? I would 
>> particularly be looking for devices which work in the UK and which I could 
>> use my iPhone with, as well as my Mac, so couldn’t use one which relied 
>> entirely on an ethernet connection.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Adrienne
>> 
> 
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Re: Powerline adaptors

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

When you say there is a button you press, are you referring to a WPS button? 
Just am curious.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shaf" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Powerline adaptors


They're beautiful.
There's no 'accessibility' issues you need to worry about, they're
literally plug and play, just need to pare both devices with the buttons
on both of them.
Let me know if you want a link to a model.


-Shaf

On 9/2/2015 5:20 PM, Adrienne Chalmers wrote:

Hi

I have terrible  wifi coverage in my house and find basic wifi repeaters 
don’t quite cut it.


I was wondering about the type of signal booster which uses the electric 
power lines in the house, but haven’t really got a clue about what to look 
for and how accessible the set up for them is with VO.


Anyone got any reviews, warnings or tips about these devices? I would 
particularly be looking for devices which work in the UK and which I could 
use my iPhone with, as well as my Mac, so couldn’t use one which relied 
entirely on an ethernet connection.


Best

Adrienne



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Re: Cleanmymac is not working for me.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

It's funny you'd mention that about the battery forcing a shutdown.  I've 
found that a lot of times, if that happens, or if my mac goes to sleep then 
I wake it up, it takes for freaking ever! for Voiceover to start speaking 
again.  Visually, I can tell with the little bit of sight I have that things 
are definitely not running sluggish in general, it's just that Voiceover 
takes it's little sweet time on the commode before it finally decides to 
re-initialize and start speaking again.  I'm seeing this regardless what 
voice I use, and regardless if it's Alex or one of the Nuance voices, or if 
it's a 3rd party like Acapela etc.


Yeah, done a reboot, and a disk repair, so God knows.  The only thing I can 
maybe perhaps think is I have a lot of things running in the background that 
might have to also get reloaded into memory.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan C. Cohn" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: Cleanmymac is not working for me.


Sometimes restarting VoiceOver will solve issues like this. I mostly see 
this type of occurrence when I run the computer until the battery forces a 
shutdown.




Jonathan Cohn


On Sep 2, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I have cleanmymac 3 on my Mac mini.
But when i run it there is nothing to focus on.
It seems to start but voiceover can not focus on it.
WHen i cmd tab until i hear vo announcing cleanmymac 3 but it can’t move 
voiceover cursor or mouse or keyboard focus there.

When i press spacebar in that non visible window it seems to exit.
So i really don’t know whats up.
This seem to happen from time to time with some aplications on the mac.
/A

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Re: Cleanmymac is not working for me.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Have you tried vo+F2 F2 to see if maybe a window is in the way?

You're not on El Capitan beta are you?  I'm not saying it does, nor am I 
saying it doesn't work there.  I'm not saying either way.  I'm simply saying 
that if you are, that may be another thing to consider.


If nothing else, might be time for a disk permission repair, speaking of 
which.  You're running the exact same version I'm running over here on my 
mini, and it works just fine over here on my late 2012 mac mini with 8GB 
ram, and an I5, Yosemite 10.10.5.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Anders Holmberg" 

To: "'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:04 PM
Subject: Cleanmymac is not working for me.


Hi!
I have cleanmymac 3 on my Mac mini.
But when i run it there is nothing to focus on.
It seems to start but voiceover can not focus on it.
WHen i cmd tab until i hear vo announcing cleanmymac 3 but it can’t move 
voiceover cursor or mouse or keyboard focus there.

When i press spacebar in that non visible window it seems to exit.
So i really don’t know whats up.
This seem to happen from time to time with some aplications on the mac.
/A

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Re: Text elements

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Generally, I've found that interacting with text elements isn't necessary.  
Just up and down arrow through them.  Not to be confused with vo! up and down 
arrow.

Chris.

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  Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 12:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Text elements


  Hi, 
  If I get your question right, you are talking about VoiceOver saying text 
when you navigate. When you encounter a text element, interact with it. To do 
this, press vo shift and down if quick nav turned off or down and right with 
quick nav enabled 
  Then you can navigate using the general navigation keys to read the text. 
  Hope this helps. 
  Thank you. 
  Venkatesh 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:


What are they? How do you interact with them? Since I'm a newby I'm going 
to be asking a lot of questions.

Marie 
 Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

So then, what would be the case where you would need to go into the recovery 
first, as Apple has always told me to do it that way.  I'm not doubting either 
of you.  Please know that.  I'm just trying to increase my knowledge on this.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions


  Hi,


  An addition to chris B's explanation, as the root user, in any MacOS version, 
you are able to manipulate and/or modify permissions on any active files.  
This, in itself, is scary and one of the reasons why you need to be very 
cautious when doing anything as the root user or even enabling the root user.  
So, repairing permissions does not require a Recovery Partition nor a separate 
startup volume, you just may be limited in what gets repaired.  In 95% of the 
cases that something needs repaired, it can be done while still logged in to 
the running system.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


  On Sep 2, 2015, at 08:53, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a disk permission 
repair on the running system. Not sure if it is able to fix as many things as 
when booted from another system but you do have the option. You can't do a disk 
repair on the currently running system.

  CB


  On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys,

Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.

First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very very! 
likely that I may just not be understanding things entirely.  I don't clame to 
be perfect.

I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system running 
Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list ironically.  Anyway, they had 
to recently repair disk permissions on their main internal Macintosh HD.  They 
can't upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't support it.  Anyway, they have 
misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their system.  Further, they 
don't have any other bootable partition internally nor externally.  So here 
lies my question.

How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or another 
bootable partition to repair permissions on their main primary macintosh HD 
volume?

Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, 
Snowleopard didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally, after Lion and 
higher, you could just boot, and hold down command+R to go to recovery.  From 
here, you could run Disk Utility, and repair permissions.  That's not going to 
work though in SL, as there's no recovery that I recall, hince why you got a 
physical DVD back in the days.

You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the OS 
though, as certain files and folders will be in use, and the volume will be 
locked, therefore not allowing a repair to be done.  So, with no media, and no 
external bootable partition, and no recovery partition, how in the world is 
he/she doing this?  Either something's not adding up here, or I'm just 
thoroughly confused, and my guess is, probably the ladder.  Just curious what 
on earth I'm missing here.  Enlighten me.

Chris.
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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Wait, now I'm even more confused.  First, it seems like you're saying you can 
do it, but you're not sure to what extent.  Now, look at the second part of 
what you say.  Then, you said, you can't do it on the running system.  So, I'm 
confused.  Which is it?  Can you, or not?

LOL!

Sorry for the confusion.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:53 AM
  Subject: Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions


  If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a disk permission 
repair on the running system. Not sure if it is able to fix as many things as 
when booted from another system but you do have the option. You can't do a disk 
repair on the currently running system.

  CB


  On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys,

Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.

First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very very! 
likely that I may just not be understanding things entirely.  I don't clame to 
be perfect.

I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system running 
Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list ironically.  Anyway, they had 
to recently repair disk permissions on their main internal Macintosh HD.  They 
can't upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't support it.  Anyway, they have 
misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their system.  Further, they 
don't have any other bootable partition internally nor externally.  So here 
lies my question.

How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or another 
bootable partition to repair permissions on their main primary macintosh HD 
volume?

Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, 
Snowleopard didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally, after Lion and 
higher, you could just boot, and hold down command+R to go to recovery.  From 
here, you could run Disk Utility, and repair permissions.  That's not going to 
work though in SL, as there's no recovery that I recall, hince why you got a 
physical DVD back in the days.

You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the OS 
though, as certain files and folders will be in use, and the volume will be 
locked, therefore not allowing a repair to be done.  So, with no media, and no 
external bootable partition, and no recovery partition, how in the world is 
he/she doing this?  Either something's not adding up here, or I'm just 
thoroughly confused, and my guess is, probably the ladder.  Just curious what 
on earth I'm missing here.  Enlighten me.

Chris.
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Re: Text elements

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

A text element is just a text box which you can type into.  Generally you don't 
have to interact.  Just start typing once they have focus.

Chris.

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  Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:39 AM
  Subject: Text elements


  What are they? How do you interact with them? Since I'm a newby I'm going to 
be asking a lot of questions.

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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Let me try to clarify. When running Disk Utility there are two 
maintenance functions you can do - Permission Repair and Disk Repair. 
The first one can be done on a live booted disk or partition. The second 
one can only be done on a partition that isn't being used to boot up a 
machine. In the case where you don't have a recovery partition and don't 
have another drive to boot off of you'll be limited to doing a 
permission repair. Even then, I suspect it can't repair as much because 
many files are in use. The better way is to boot off another drive, 
partition, thumbdrive or recovery partition and then do the permission 
repair. This also allows you to do a disk repair.


Hope this helps clear up when you can use the two very similar named 
functions.


CB

On 9/2/15 10:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Wait, now I'm even more confused.  First, it seems like you're saying 
you can do it, but you're not sure to what extent.  Now, look at the 
second part of what you say.  Then, you said, you can't do it on the 
running system.  So, I'm confused.  Which is it?  Can you, or not?

LOL!
Sorry for the confusion.
Chris.

- Original Message -
*From:* 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries

*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:53 AM
*Subject:* Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk
permissions

If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a disk
permission repair on the running system. Not sure if it is able to
fix as many things as when booted from another system but you do
have the option. You can't do a disk repair on the currently
running system.

CB

On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys,
Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.
First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very
very! likely that I may just not be understanding things
entirely.  I don't clame to be perfect.
I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system
running Snowleopard. NO, it's not the guy on this list
ironically.  Anyway, they had to recently repair disk permissions
on their main internal Macintosh HD.  They can't upgrade to
Yosemite, as their system won't support it.  Anyway, they have
misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their system. 
Further, they don't have any other bootable partition internally

nor externally.  So here lies my question.
How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or
another bootable partition to repair permissions on their main
primary macintosh HD volume?
Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong,
Snowleopard didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally,
after Lion and higher, you could just boot, and hold down
command+R to go to recovery.  From here, you could run Disk
Utility, and repair permissions.  That's not going to work though
in SL, as there's no recovery that I recall, hince why you got a
physical DVD back in the days.
You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the
OS though, as certain files and folders will be in use, and the
volume will be locked, therefore not allowing a repair to be
done.  So, with no media, and no external bootable partition, and
no recovery partition, how in the world is he/she doing this? 
Either something's not adding up here, or I'm just thoroughly

confused, and my guess is, probably the ladder.  Just curious
what on earth I'm missing here. Enlighten me.
Chris.
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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

[Joe Quinn]

also, where do you go to be "root?" terminal, I assume? I forgot how to do it, 
and for that matter, I think I forgot my root pw anyway

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> So then, what would be the case where you would need to go into the recovery 
> first, as Apple has always told me to do it that way.  I'm not doubting 
> either of you.  Please know that.  I'm just trying to increase my knowledge 
> on this.
>  
> Chris.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Tim Kilburn
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:49AM
> Subject: Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> An addition to chris B's explanation, as the root user, in any MacOS version, 
> you are able to manipulate and/or modify permissions on any active files.  
> This, in itself, is scary and one of the reasons why you need to be very 
> cautious when doing anything as the root user or even enabling the root user. 
>  So, repairing permissions does not require a Recovery Partition nor a 
> separate startup volume, you just may be limited in what gets repaired.  In 
> 95% of the cases that something needs repaired, it can be done while still 
> logged in to the running system.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 08:53, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a disk permission 
> repair on the running system. Not sure if it is able to fix as many things as 
> when booted from another system but you do have the option. You can't do a 
> disk repair on the currently running system.
> 
> CB
> 
>> On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Guys,
>>  
>> Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.
>>  
>> First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very very! 
>> likely that I may just not be understanding things entirely.  I don't clame 
>> to be perfect.
>>  
>> I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system running 
>> Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list ironically.  Anyway, they 
>> had to recently repair disk permissions on their main internal Macintosh HD. 
>>  They can't upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't support it.  Anyway, 
>> they have misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their system.  
>> Further, they don't have any other bootable partition internally nor 
>> externally.  So here lies my question.
>>  
>> How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or another bootable 
>> partition to repair permissions on their main primary macintosh HD volume?
>>  
>> Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, 
>> Snowleopard didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally, after Lion 
>> and higher, you could just boot, and hold down command+R to go to recovery.  
>> From here, you could run Disk Utility, and repair permissions.  That's not 
>> going to work though in SL, as there's no recovery that I recall, hince why 
>> you got a physical DVD back in the days.
>>  
>> You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the OS though, 
>> as certain files and folders will be in use, and the volume will be locked, 
>> therefore not allowing a repair to be done.  So, with no media, and no 
>> external bootable partition, and no recovery partition, how in the world is 
>> he/she doing this?  Either something's not adding up here, or I'm just 
>> thoroughly confused, and my guess is, probably the ladder.  Just curious 
>> what on earth I'm missing here.  Enlighten me.
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, terminal. You would bring up terminal and type su to attempt to 
become a "Super User" which then prompts for the root password. This is 
all predicated on your having enabled the root account and being an 
admin on your machine. The steps to enable root varies depending on the 
version of OSX you have. They don't make it easy for a reason :)


CB

On 9/2/15 4:10 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
also, where do you go to be "root?" terminal, I assume? I forgot how 
to do it, and for that matter, I think I forgot my root pw anyway


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


So then, what would be the case where you would need to go into the 
recovery first, as Apple has always told me to do it that way.  I'm 
not doubting either of you.  Please know that.  I'm just trying to 
increase my knowledge on this.

Chris.

- Original Message -
*From:* Tim Kilburn 
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:49 AM
*Subject:* Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk
permissions

Hi,

An addition to chris B's explanation, as the root user, in any
MacOS version, you are able to manipulate and/or modify
permissions on any active files.  This, in itself, is scary and
one of the reasons why you need to be very cautious when doing
anything as the root user or even enabling the root user.  So,
repairing permissions does not require a Recovery Partition nor a
separate startup volume, you just may be limited in what gets
repaired.  In 95% of the cases that something needs repaired, it
can be done while still logged in to the running system.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 2, 2015, at 08:53, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a
disk permission repair on the running system. Not sure if it is
able to fix as many things as when booted from another system but
you do have the option. You can't do a disk repair on the
currently running system.

CB

On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys,
Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.
First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very
very! likely that I may just not be understanding things
entirely.  I don't clame to be perfect.
I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system
running Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list
ironically.  Anyway, they had to recently repair disk
permissions on their main internal Macintosh HD.  They can't
upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't support it. Anyway,
they have misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their
system.  Further, they don't have any other bootable partition
internally nor externally.  So here lies my question.
How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or
another bootable partition to repair permissions on their main
primary macintosh HD volume?
Here's the thing. From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong,
Snowleopard didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally,
after Lion and higher, you could just boot, and hold down
command+R to go to recovery.  From here, you could run Disk
Utility, and repair permissions.  That's not going to work
though in SL, as there's no recovery that I recall, hince why
you got a physical DVD back in the days.
You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into
the OS though, as certain files and folders will be in use, and
the volume will be locked, therefore not allowing a repair to be
done.  So, with no media, and no external bootable partition,
and no recovery partition, how in the world is he/she doing
this?  Either something's not adding up here, or I'm just
thoroughly confused, and my guess is, probably the ladder.  Just
curious what on earth I'm missing here. Enlighten me.
Chris.
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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Actually, I think the root user has to be enabled through the system recovery.

Realize that before anyone answers saying yeah, go into terminal and anything 
that starts with sudo will be root, realize that isn't true at all.  I thought 
that too at first, and was sadly proven wrong.  All sudo does is to elevate 
your command to super user level.

Even if you was to type

sudo su

that wouldn't really technically be root either.  If you really want root 
access, which again as said before, you do this soly at your own risk, I kind a 
remember it being done through the recovery partition.  I've never ever ever 
had a need to turn on the root account though, and God forbid the day I do, so 
I couldn't exactly tell you where to do it in there, but it's in your menu bar, 
I'm quite sure.  Probably somewhere under the Utilities menu, if I had to guess.

Chris.
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 4:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions


  also, where do you go to be "root?" terminal, I assume? I forgot how to do 
it, and for that matter, I think I forgot my root pw anyway

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 2, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


So then, what would be the case where you would need to go into the 
recovery first, as Apple has always told me to do it that way.  I'm not 
doubting either of you.  Please know that.  I'm just trying to increase my 
knowledge on this.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions


  Hi, 


  An addition to chris B's explanation, as the root user, in any MacOS 
version, you are able to manipulate and/or modify permissions on any active 
files.  This, in itself, is scary and one of the reasons why you need to be 
very cautious when doing anything as the root user or even enabling the root 
user.  So, repairing permissions does not require a Recovery Partition nor a 
separate startup volume, you just may be limited in what gets repaired.  In 95% 
of the cases that something needs repaired, it can be done while still logged 
in to the running system.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


  On Sep 2, 2015, at 08:53, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a disk 
permission repair on the running system. Not sure if it is able to fix as many 
things as when booted from another system but you do have the option. You can't 
do a disk repair on the currently running system.

  CB


  On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys,

Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.

First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very very! 
likely that I may just not be understanding things entirely.  I don't clame to 
be perfect.

I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system running 
Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list ironically.  Anyway, they had 
to recently repair disk permissions on their main internal Macintosh HD.  They 
can't upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't support it.  Anyway, they have 
misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their system.  Further, they 
don't have any other bootable partition internally nor externally.  So here 
lies my question.

How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or another 
bootable partition to repair permissions on their main primary macintosh HD 
volume?

Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, 
Snowleopard didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally, after Lion and 
higher, you could just boot, and hold down command+R to go to recovery.  From 
here, you could run Disk Utility, and repair permissions.  That's not going to 
work though in SL, as there's no recovery that I recall, hince why you got a 
physical DVD back in the days.

You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the OS 
though, as certain files and folders will be in use, and the volume will be 
locked, therefore not allowing a repair to be done.  So, with no media, and no 
external bootable partition, and no recovery partition, how in the world is 
he/she doing this?  Either something's not adding up here, or I'm just 
thoroughly confused, and my guess is, probably the ladder.  Just curious what 
on earth I'm missing here.  Enlighten me.

Chris.
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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yes, Chris.  It does.  That now makes more sense.  Thanks for the clarification.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 4:01 PM
  Subject: Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions


  Let me try to clarify. When running Disk Utility there are two maintenance 
functions you can do - Permission Repair and Disk Repair. The first one can be 
done on a live booted disk or partition. The second one can only be done on a 
partition that isn't being used to boot up a machine. In the case where you 
don't have a recovery partition and don't have another drive to boot off of 
you'll be limited to doing a permission repair. Even then, I suspect it can't 
repair as much because many files are in use. The better way is to boot off 
another drive, partition, thumbdrive or recovery partition and then do the 
permission repair. This also allows you to do a disk repair.

  Hope this helps clear up when you can use the two very similar named 
functions.

  CB


  On 9/2/15 10:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Wait, now I'm even more confused.  First, it seems like you're saying you 
can do it, but you're not sure to what extent.  Now, look at the second part of 
what you say.  Then, you said, you can't do it on the running system.  So, I'm 
confused.  Which is it?  Can you, or not?

LOL!

Sorry for the confusion.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:53 AM
  Subject: Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions


  If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a disk 
permission repair on the running system. Not sure if it is able to fix as many 
things as when booted from another system but you do have the option. You can't 
do a disk repair on the currently running system.

  CB


  On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys,

Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.

First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very very! 
likely that I may just not be understanding things entirely.  I don't clame to 
be perfect.

I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system running 
Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list ironically.  Anyway, they had 
to recently repair disk permissions on their main internal Macintosh HD.  They 
can't upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't support it.  Anyway, they have 
misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their system.  Further, they 
don't have any other bootable partition internally nor externally.  So here 
lies my question.

How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or another 
bootable partition to repair permissions on their main primary macintosh HD 
volume?

Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, 
Snowleopard didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally, after Lion and 
higher, you could just boot, and hold down command+R to go to recovery.  From 
here, you could run Disk Utility, and repair permissions.  That's not going to 
work though in SL, as there's no recovery that I recall, hince why you got a 
physical DVD back in the days.

You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the OS 
though, as certain files and folders will be in use, and the volume will be 
locked, therefore not allowing a repair to be done.  So, with no media, and no 
external bootable partition, and no recovery partition, how in the world is 
he/she doing this?  Either something's not adding up here, or I'm just 
thoroughly confused, and my guess is, probably the ladder.  Just curious what 
on earth I'm missing here.  Enlighten me.

Chris.
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Can't find cayenne FB reader in App Store

[Phil Halton]

I'm trying to download cayenne FB reader from the app store, but I keep getting 
a quote no results found "message when I search for it. Is there a problem with 
the app store today? I'm searching in the US store.

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: Can't find cayenne FB reader in App Store

[Ray Foret Jr]

Make sure you are in fact searching
"knfb"

That should do it.


Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

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> On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> I'm trying to download cayenne FB reader from the app store, but I keep 
> getting a quote no results found "message when I search for it. Is there a 
> problem with the app store today? I'm searching in the US store.
> 
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Re: Can't find cayenne FB reader in App Store

[E.T.]

   Its KNFB. K N F B. No spaces.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/2/2015 1:23 PM, Phil Halton wrote:

I'm trying to download cayenne FB reader from the app store, but I keep getting a 
quote no results found "message when I search for it. Is there a problem with 
the app store today? I'm searching in the US store.

Sent from my IPhone



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Re: Can't find cayenne FB reader in App Store

[Daniel Miller]

Actually, they just tweeted that it’s been pulled from the app store, but will 
return soon.

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:31 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Its KNFB. K N F B. No spaces.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/2/2015 1:23 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>> I'm trying to download cayenne FB reader from the app store, but I keep 
>> getting a quote no results found "message when I search for it. Is there a 
>> problem with the app store today? I'm searching in the US store.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

In systems that include the Recovery Partition, if files remain unable to be 
repaired, it's possible that this is due to files being busy.  So, implementing 
the permissions repair from the Recovery Partition allows for this to happen.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 2, 2015, at 10:38, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

So then, what would be the case where you would need to go into the recovery 
first, as Apple has always told me to do it that way.  I'm not doubting either 
of you.  Please know that.  I'm just trying to increase my knowledge on this.
 
Chris.
 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Tim Kilburn 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> An addition to chris B's explanation, as the root user, in any MacOS version, 
> you are able to manipulate and/or modify permissions on any active files.  
> This, in itself, is scary and one of the reasons why you need to be very 
> cautious when doing anything as the root user or even enabling the root user. 
>  So, repairing permissions does not require a Recovery Partition nor a 
> separate startup volume, you just may be limited in what gets repaired.  In 
> 95% of the cases that something needs repaired, it can be done while still 
> logged in to the running system.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
> 
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 08:53, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a disk permission 
> repair on the running system. Not sure if it is able to fix as many things as 
> when booted from another system but you do have the option. You can't do a 
> disk repair on the currently running system.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Guys,
>>  
>> Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.
>>  
>> First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very very! 
>> likely that I may just not be understanding things entirely.  I don't clame 
>> to be perfect.
>>  
>> I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system running 
>> Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list ironically.  Anyway, they 
>> had to recently repair disk permissions on their main internal Macintosh HD. 
>>  They can't upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't support it.  Anyway, 
>> they have misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their system.  
>> Further, they don't have any other bootable partition internally nor 
>> externally.  So here lies my question.
>>  
>> How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or another bootable 
>> partition to repair permissions on their main primary macintosh HD volume?
>>  
>> Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, 
>> Snowleopard didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally, after Lion 
>> and higher, you could just boot, and hold down command+R to go to recovery.  
>> From here, you could run Disk Utility, and repair permissions.  That's not 
>> going to work though in SL, as there's no recovery that I recall, hince why 
>> you got a physical DVD back in the days.
>>  
>> You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the OS though, 
>> as certain files and folders will be in use, and the volume will be locked, 
>> therefore not allowing a repair to be done.  So, with no media, and no 
>> external bootable partition, and no recovery partition, how in the world is 
>> he/she doing this?  Either something's not adding up here, or I'm just 
>> thoroughly confused, and my guess is, probably the ladder.  Just curious 
>> what on earth I'm missing here.  Enlighten me.
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

the root user in modern versions of the MacOS is usually enabled in the 
Directory Utility.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 2, 2015, at 14:14, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

Actually, I think the root user has to be enabled through the system recovery.
 
Realize that before anyone answers saying yeah, go into terminal and anything 
that starts with sudo will be root, realize that isn't true at all.  I thought 
that too at first, and was sadly proven wrong.  All sudo does is to elevate 
your command to super user level.
 
Even if you was to type
 
sudo su
 
that wouldn't really technically be root either.  If you really want root 
access, which again as said before, you do this soly at your own risk, I kind a 
remember it being done through the recovery partition.  I've never ever ever 
had a need to turn on the root account though, and God forbid the day I do, so 
I couldn't exactly tell you where to do it in there, but it's in your menu bar, 
I'm quite sure.  Probably somewhere under the Utilities menu, if I had to guess.
 
Chris.
- Original Message - 
> From: Joe Quinn 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 4:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions
> 
> also, where do you go to be "root?" terminal, I assume? I forgot how to do 
> it, and for that matter, I think I forgot my root pw anyway
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  > wrote:
> 
>> So then, what would be the case where you would need to go into the recovery 
>> first, as Apple has always told me to do it that way.  I'm not doubting 
>> either of you.  Please know that.  I'm just trying to increase my knowledge 
>> on this.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Tim Kilburn 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Very confused on an aspect of repairing disk permissions
>>> 
>>> Hi, 
>>> 
>>> An addition to chris B's explanation, as the root user, in any MacOS 
>>> version, you are able to manipulate and/or modify permissions on any active 
>>> files.  This, in itself, is scary and one of the reasons why you need to be 
>>> very cautious when doing anything as the root user or even enabling the 
>>> root user.  So, repairing permissions does not require a Recovery Partition 
>>> nor a separate startup volume, you just may be limited in what gets 
>>> repaired.  In 95% of the cases that something needs repaired, it can be 
>>> done while still logged in to the running system.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 08:53, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If the OS is up and running you can run disk utility and do a disk 
>>> permission repair on the running system. Not sure if it is able to fix as 
>>> many things as when booted from another system but you do have the option. 
>>> You can't do a disk repair on the currently running system.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 9/2/15 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Guys,
  
 Hopefully one of you all can explain this to me.
  
 First off, I'm not saying anyone is being untruthful.  It's very very! 
 likely that I may just not be understanding things entirely.  I don't 
 clame to be perfect.
  
 I have a friend who will be left unnamed who has a mac system running 
 Snowleopard.  NO, it's not the guy on this list ironically.  Anyway, they 
 had to recently repair disk permissions on their main internal Macintosh 
 HD.  They can't upgrade to Yosemite, as their system won't support it.  
 Anyway, they have misplaced the Snowleopard DVD which came with their 
 system.  Further, they don't have any other bootable partition internally 
 nor externally.  So here lies my question.
  
 How in the world were they able without the SL DVD media or another 
 bootable partition to repair permissions on their main primary macintosh 
 HD volume?
  
 Here's the thing.  From what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, 
 Snowleopard didn't have a recovery partition, did it?  Normally, after 
 Lion and higher, you could just boot, and hold down command+R to go to 
 recovery.  From here, you could run Disk Utility, and repair permissions.  
 That's not going to work though in SL, as there's no recovery that I 
 recall, hince why you got a physical DVD back in the days.
  
 You can't exactly repair permissions though while booted into the OS 
 though, as certain files and folders will be in use, and the volume will 
 be locked, therefore not allowing a repair to be done.  S

Re: Powerline adaptors

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Adrienne, in most cases, they will work, and are simple to set up.
Factors like wiring and distance will influence how much speed you get, as well 
as the model you choose.
I used to use them, as we have a large house. But recently, we upgraded our 
Internet connection as the Government here is laying fibre to everyone's door. 
The power over Ethernet was the weakest link. We couldn't take advantage of the 
entire speed in those situations where we were relying on the power over 
Ethernet. So we bit the bullet and had cat6 cable installed throughout the 
house. Now we have a bunch of Airport Extremes connected, which give us 
802.11AC Wi-Fi and the full speed of the Internet connection, currently 200 in 
both directions but going up to 1GB.
But if you aren't too worried about speed, they are a really simple solution. 
And they are getting faster, although I have found their maximums to be very 
much theoretical.

Jonathan Mosen
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> On 3/09/2015, at 4:20 AM, Adrienne Chalmers  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have terrible  wifi coverage in my house and find basic wifi repeaters 
> don’t quite cut it.
> 
> I was wondering about the type of signal booster which uses the electric 
> power lines in the house, but haven’t really got a clue about what to look 
> for and how accessible the set up for them is with VO.
> 
> Anyone got any reviews, warnings or tips about these devices? I would 
> particularly be looking for devices which work in the UK and which I could 
> use my iPhone with, as well as my Mac, so couldn’t use one which relied 
> entirely on an ethernet connection.
> 
> Best
> 
> Adrienne
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Re: Can't find cayenne FB reader in App Store

[Ray Foret Jr]

Now why is that I wonder.  Did they give a reason?  That seems unreasonable to 
me.


Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

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> On Sep 2, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Actually, they just tweeted that it’s been pulled from the app store, but 
> will return soon.
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:31 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Its KNFB. K N F B. No spaces.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 9/2/2015 1:23 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>> I'm trying to download cayenne FB reader from the app store, but I keep 
>>> getting a quote no results found "message when I search for it. Is there a 
>>> problem with the app store today? I'm searching in the US store.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Eight terminal utilities every osx command line user should know

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Thanks for that one.
The last one was interesting as i’ve never thought there was a similar command 
to apt-get on the mac.
/A
> 1 sep. 2015 kl. 15:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Thought this was an interesting article:
> 
> http://www.mitchchn.me/2014/os-x-terminal/
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Re: Can't find cayenne FB reader in App Store

[Daniel Miller]

No reason was given, they just said “sorry for the inconvenience.” It seems a 
little weird, yes, but apps have been pulled for reason we never even knew in 
the past, so I wouldn’t worry about it.

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Now why is that I wonder.  Did they give a reason?  That seems unreasonable 
> to me.
> 
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!!!
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, they just tweeted that it’s been pulled from the app store, but 
>> will return soon.
>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:31 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Its KNFB. K N F B. No spaces.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 9/2/2015 1:23 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
 I'm trying to download cayenne FB reader from the app store, but I keep 
 getting a quote no results found "message when I search for it. Is there a 
 problem with the app store today? I'm searching in the US store.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
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Re: Cleanmymac is not working for me.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Actually i have tried this but it does not hurt to try it again.
Thanks.
/A
> 2 sep. 2015 kl. 19:16 skrev Jonathan C. Cohn :
> 
> Sometimes restarting VoiceOver will solve issues like this. I mostly see this 
> type of occurrence when I run the computer until the battery forces a 
> shutdown.
> 
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I have cleanmymac 3 on my Mac mini.
>> But when i run it there is nothing to focus on.
>> It seems to start but voiceover can not focus on it.
>> WHen i cmd tab until i hear vo announcing cleanmymac 3 but it can’t move 
>> voiceover cursor or mouse or keyboard focus there.
>> When i press spacebar in that non visible window it seems to exit.
>> So i really don’t know whats up.
>> This seem to happen from time to time with some aplications on the mac.
>> /A
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Re: Cleanmymac is not working for me.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I am on the beta yes.
So that may be the case.
Clean my mac 2 worked like a charm here.
/A
> 2 sep. 2015 kl. 19:23 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland :
> 
> Have you tried vo+F2 F2 to see if maybe a window is in the way?
> 
> You're not on El Capitan beta are you?  I'm not saying it does, nor am I 
> saying it doesn't work there.  I'm not saying either way.  I'm simply saying 
> that if you are, that may be another thing to consider.
> 
> If nothing else, might be time for a disk permission repair, speaking of 
> which.  You're running the exact same version I'm running over here on my 
> mini, and it works just fine over here on my late 2012 mac mini with 8GB ram, 
> and an I5, Yosemite 10.10.5.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
> To: "'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:04 PM
> Subject: Cleanmymac is not working for me.
> 
> 
> Hi!
> I have cleanmymac 3 on my Mac mini.
> But when i run it there is nothing to focus on.
> It seems to start but voiceover can not focus on it.
> WHen i cmd tab until i hear vo announcing cleanmymac 3 but it can’t move 
> voiceover cursor or mouse or keyboard focus there.
> When i press spacebar in that non visible window it seems to exit.
> So i really don’t know whats up.
> This seem to happen from time to time with some aplications on the mac.
> /A
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Re: Looking for check writing application

[William Gallik]

I suppose for the few checks that I absolutely have to write, I could just use 
one of the templates or checkwriting guides that are available through various 
low vision and blind services. However, I was hoping that I could use my Mac to 
write those checks as well as enter payments made through online services to 
keep track of my accounts. 
– Bill and leader dog Holland

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Re: Can't find cayenne FB reader in App Store

[Paul Sandoval]

It may have something to do with the in app purchase. I have a friend who tried 
to buy it, was charged by Apple. Then when he got the app it wanted him to make 
a purchase. He has been emailing back-and-forth with the creators of the 
application. 

Sent from Pablo's iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> No reason was given, they just said “sorry for the inconvenience.” It seems a 
> little weird, yes, but apps have been pulled for reason we never even knew in 
> the past, so I wouldn’t worry about it.
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Now why is that I wonder.  Did they give a reason?  That seems unreasonable 
>> to me.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!!!
>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, they just tweeted that it’s been pulled from the app store, but 
>>> will return soon.
>>> 
 On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:31 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
  Its KNFB. K N F B. No spaces.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
> On 9/2/2015 1:23 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
> I'm trying to download cayenne FB reader from the app store, but I keep 
> getting a quote no results found "message when I search for it. Is there 
> a problem with the app store today? I'm searching in the US store.
> 
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TechLink battery pack for iPhone

[Phil Halton]

I bought the 2600ma TechLink external battery pack from the online apple store 
but can’t seem to get it to work. I’ve plugged it in with the included mini USB 
cable and it shows all green lights, but when I plug the iPhone into the USB 
slot on the device, nothing happens. No “charging battery” message appears on 
the status line of the iPhone or any other indication that the phone is 
charging off the TechLink.

Physically, the tech link is shaped like a roll of nickels with two USB slots, 
one full-size and the other a mini. It has a row of LED’s and that’s all, no 
switches or anything like that. I assumed I would just plug the iPhone into a 
fully charged tech link and it would start charging like when I plug it into 
the USB slot on my MBA, but no joy.
Any ideas/help appreciated.

Any experience with these beasts? I’m trying to avoid a trip the the Apple 
store to sort it out.

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transmit, and flashFXP?

[Joe Quinn]

ok, got a quick question for everyone. I have a bunch of ftp sites in flashfxp, 
but I want to get them into transmit. Is there an easy way to do it, besides 
either going to windows and using flashfxp, or manually typing every single one 
into transmit? Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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OT: interesting application: aipoly, artificial intelligence for the blind

[venky . 92]

Hi,
I read about an interesting App called aipoly.
This app gives a voice description of what's in front of the camera. For those 
of you who might be familiar, this is similar to tap tap see.
They Will be beta testing the application soon and they have a sign up for it. 
From what I know, the technology they use at the backend should make this app 
recognize images faster than tap tap see.
Thought some of you might be interested.
Here is the link
http://aipoly.com/
Please excuse me if you consider this message irrelevant.
Thank you.
Regards,
Venkatesh

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misfit shine

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

would like to someone here if the misfit shine is accessible? 

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Powerline adaptors

[Adrienne Chalmers]

Hi all and thanks

I have seen a starter kit for £25 here 
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/edimax-hp-6002k-av2-600mbps-gigabit-ac-passthrough-powerline-starter-kit-WH2-HP-6002ACK?utm_source=7dayshop.com+Limited&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6112571_2015-08-02-WH2-HP-6002ACK&utm_content=WH2-HP-6002ACK&dm_i=18LS,3N0HN,DLJ4LM,D2ZJY,1
 

 so I shall just go ahead and order it and see what happens.

Thanks

Adrienne

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