Tw2-step verification and third party apps

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hello,
I have just purchased a new email client for the Mac called Mail mate and am 
trying to get my iCloud- and gmail accounts over to it. Since this procedure 
involves so called app specific passwords i wonder where i set those for the 
different services?
Do i get the app specific passwords from the server or do i set them in the app?
/Krister

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Adding members to office365

[Danny Noonan]

I just started my free trial of office 365 and attempted to add my family 
members but every time I enter an email address I am told I have to prove I'm 
not a robot. I click next and in Safari on the Mac and my iPhone I get
"Safari can not make a secure connection to this server."
I've tried turning off wifi on the phone but it's the same on 4g. I've also 
tried crome on the iPhone and get a blank page. On the suggestion from 
Microsoft I deleted my cookies and history with no luck. Microsoft suggested I 
use a pc. What pc? I'm an apple guy. 

Any suggestions greatly appreciated. 

Thanks. 

Danny

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Re: testing a headphone mic

['Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries]

Or if you have skype use the audio test service this will let you know 
if your mic is working and how it sounds.


On 24/08/2015 23:25, Alex Hall wrote:

QuickTime, which should be on your Mac already, can do that. In the File Menu, choose 
"new audio recording" and then set the settings. It's not the easiest program 
in the world to use for recording, but it should do fine for your purposes.

On Aug 24, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:

How can I test whether the mic in my headphones is working?  What program can I 
use to do a simple voice recording?

Thanks
Chris

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Re: testing a headphone mic

[Alex Hall]

Good point. The only thing to remember with Skype is that it doesn't use a 
connected mic automatically, it sticks with the default unless you change it. 
Be sure to connect your mic, then go to Skype's preferences and into the audio 
tab. Choose the mic from the popup button and close preferences. Then the test 
service will be testing the proper device. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2015, at 05:42, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Or if you have skype use the audio test service this will let you know if 
> your mic is working and how it sounds.
> 
>> On 24/08/2015 23:25, Alex Hall wrote:
>> QuickTime, which should be on your Mac already, can do that. In the File 
>> Menu, choose "new audio recording" and then set the settings. It's not the 
>> easiest program in the world to use for recording, but it should do fine for 
>> your purposes.
>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How can I test whether the mic in my headphones is working?  What program 
>>> can I use to do a simple voice recording?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Chris
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Re: Saving attachments in Mail

[Donald Goosens]

What would be the keyboard commands to accomplish all of this?
> On Aug 17, 2015, at 8:30 PM, John Maliga  wrote:
> 
> The easiest way is to simply drag the icon of the attachment from your email 
> to the desktop, or to any folder or folder window in the Finder.
> 
> If you have the file open, you can also use the File menu in the program that 
> opened it. Apple programs now use the "Duplicate" command, but many other 
> programs (apps) still use "Save as...".
> 
> Technically, the attachment is already saved on your computer, but its 
> location is a hidden folder. When you save the document to a new location 
> with any of the directions in this response, you are simply making another 
> copy at that location.
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Re: Tw2-step verification and third party apps

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

App specific passwords are set on the web.  In gMail, you need to go into your 
Account settings, and I believe that it is under the Security tab.  I suspect 
that it would be similar in iCloud or other eMail services that have that level 
of security.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 25, 2015, at 02:55, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

Hello,
I have just purchased a new email client for the Mac called Mail mate and am 
trying to get my iCloud- and gmail accounts over to it. Since this procedure 
involves so called app specific passwords i wonder where i set those for the 
different services?
Do i get the app specific passwords from the server or do i set them in the app?
/Krister

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Re: apple script to remove resource fork files from usb drives?

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Hello,
I know there is an option in tintertool, to not include resource information 
though that option might just be for  network drives and not removable media.

If you have the terminal commands, then you could create a bash script to 
execute, or you could wrap the terminal commands in a 
do shell script in AppleScript.

I
I believe that there might be an event you can capture for eject events, but I 
don't quite remember. 




Jonathan Cohn 

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 12:38 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have some one who is being greatly annoyed by resource fork files as he 
> copies files from the mac into usb drives and then gets two of every file on 
> windows.  Does anyone have an apple script we can put into the usb drives 
> which when run would remove the resource fork files?  There's a terminal 
> command to do this but I've never built an apple script.
> 
> Info about resource fork files can be found here.
> http://www.cnet.com/news/invisible-files-with-prefix-are-created-on-some-shared-volumes-and-external-disks/
> 
> I see the terminal command for removing them here.
> http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5227/~/sansa-player-shows-duplicate-‘._’-songs-after-transferring-using-mac-os
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
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Re: Changing outgoing email address based on recipient?

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Mail Act On will do this. I have no idea if it is accessible, I looked at the 
product about 7 years ago when I was doing some consulting. 

Besides conrolling outgoing messages, one can set up pseudo smart actions to 
file messages. 
http://www.indev.ca/MailActOn.html 

Let me know how it goes.



Jonathan Cohn 

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I thought not. One thing I'll mention, in case anyone else wants to do this, 
> is the tip I found on a forum. Mail will set your outgoing address to match 
> the current message or mailbox. So, if you set each of your accounts' inboxes 
> as a favorite, you could press command along with the number to bring up the 
> mailbox of the account you want, then press cmd-n. Mail will set your address 
> to match the account in use. Not perfect at all, but it's the only thing I 
> found. I think you also have to enable the setting to match the current 
> message account, so if you have that off, this won't work.
>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t think you can do this automatically, just change it in the window 
>> every time, unfortunately.
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I've looked into this, and there appears to be no way to do it, but I 
>>> wanted to double check in case someone here knows something. I want to be 
>>> able to have Mail on the Mac change the selected email account for a 
>>> message based on whom I am sending the message to. For instance, if it goes 
>>> to a certain address or group, my Gmail address will automatically be used 
>>> instead of my default iCloud address. A way to do this would be great, but 
>>> it looks like there's not only no way to do it in Mail by default, there's 
>>> no way to script it. Has anyone come across anything like this? Thanks.
>>> 
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My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

So guys, maybe I am a bit of an extremest, however I have decided to take a 
major challenge upon  myself.  So many people have said that I O S is at a 
point where it could almost serve as a production based computer setup for some 
people.  I decided, techy as I am, to take this challenge and see if that is 
really the case for my daily lifestyle.  Does it mean that I am going to use I 
O S exclusively from this point forward, and never use a computer again?  Hell! 
no!  All I'm saying is, I wanted to really truely give the mobile world a fair 
chance, and really take it to the extreme.

Therefore, for the next 24 hours, I am trying to stay off my pc as much as 
humanly possible.  Obviously, if a customer of mine needs something done that I 
find isn't working with I O S, then I'll hop on my mac or my PC, and get it 
done, but even then, I won't do so unless it winds up being a very very last 
resort.  I really am open-minded about wanting to try this and really see if I 
truely can manage with only a mobile device, be it my IPhone, or my IPad to do 
this.

This said, here is the first challenge I've hit.  I know that being you all 
won't be able to see what I'm seeing first hand, it's going to make things a 
bit difficult, but trust me when I say, this was a nightmare!

I am running a droplet on Digital Ocean of UBuntu 14.04 64 bit, Server.  On 
here, I have followed the instructions posted by Nerd Vittles and have 
installed Asterisk's Incredible PBX.  Tonight, I wanted to add an entry to my 
main company IVR.  So, I grabbed my IPad, and went to the FreePBX admin web 
interface.  I have IPTables installed locking it down to my IP address, so even 
if I was to give you all the URL to go to, it wouldn't work for you guys.  Just 
take my word for this.  The page loaded just fine, but first off, I saw the 
link on this page to log into the ISynthany server, if I had one configured, 
which I don't.  I also saw the button to load the user panel login screen.  
When I double tapped on this button however, I was presented with a page 
telling me that Safari was unable to connect.  I know this is baloni, as both 
my windows PC, as well as all 3 of my macs can connect with absolutely no 
problem to that page.

So, I backed myself out, back to the main FreePBX page, and proceeded to look 
for the link/button to log into the admin panel.  Try as I may however, the 
link was nowhere to be found.  I know where the link should be on the page, but 
neither touch exploration nor flicking would focus it.  Now, to be fair, let me 
say this.  I do not know if the link was visibly there on the screen.  If I had 
to guess based on my touch exploration, I'd say it probably most likely wasn't, 
but again, let's be totally fair.  I cannot prove this one way or another.  I 
turned off, and back on Voiceover, which did entirely no good.  I also tried 
using my item chooser list, which yielded nothing.  Finally, at my whit's end, 
I turned my rotor to links, and found nothing, buttons, and found nothing, and 
even form controls, and found nothing.

I tried this both with, and without a bluetooth keyboard.  So needless to say, 
either the way that site is scripted/coded is just very very! nonstandard, or 
Safari is just having a major fit with this web admin interface.

Is this real common that you'll see web pages on the mobile side of things not 
render well?  I even went so far as to click the icon that said show full site, 
but that had no effect accessibility wise.  Is there maybe another little trick 
I could try?

Yes, guilty as charged, I broke my challenge in this one case.  I didn't have a 
choice being this was business related, and urgently had to be done.  So, I 
just hopped on my mac and did it.  That really has sucked the fun out of me 
though, as man!  I was so! looking forward to that working, and me being able 
to be really impressed.  Unfortunately, not the case here.

Chris.

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Re: Growl.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, I'll call you around 9 my time.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn Krasniuk 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 5:09 PM
  Subject: Re: Growl.


  Yeah sure. I'm available from now until 5:30 central, that's probably 6:30 
for you because I'm going out at 5:30 but then I'll be back at around 9 9:15. 
Call me on Skype if you want.


  Shawn
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  Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Shawn,

Can we set up a time, then for you to help me over either phone or Skype to 
get Growl set up correctly?  The times I've tried configuring it, it's 
disaster, so, I undoubtedly must not totally know what I'm doing.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn Krasniuk 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 12:35 AM
  Subject: Re: Growl.


  Hi Chris. I still use Growl because 1, that built in feature you speak of 
to automatically read alerts only reads alerts and 2, There's no way to my 
knowledge to have notifications from the notification center speak 
automatically if someone turns off Voiceover like I do when I'm doing something 
in VMWare Fusion or playing RS Games. Also in new versions of Skype due to them 
stopping support for Growl, in my experience Voiceover doesn't read incoming 
IMs sometimes when in the chat window. That's why having Skype 6.15 and Growl 
is a good combination. Also I have Growl set to work with Night Owl to read my 
tweets automatically since Voiceover doesn't handle having multiple tweets 
thrown at it in the notification center. Also, until I can find an accessible 
weather client to replace Menuweather or Orbis as it's called now, Growl and 
Omnigrowl will have to do. 


  Shawn
  Sent From My White MacBook
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  Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
  Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
  Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Aug 22, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


If you go into system preferences, then speech and dictation, then go 
to the text to speech tab, there is a checkbox to automatically speak incoming 
alerts.  So, I'm ever so slightly confused.  Is there really much of a need for 
Growl anymore, being that this feature has seemed to be directly implemented 
directly into OSX?

Sorry, if I'm missing something here.  Honestly, I've not used Growl in 
ages, and when I did, I found it to be incredibly annoying.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sadam Ahmed
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:28 AM
  Subject: Growl.


  All,  


  Have downloaded the above app. 


  Does the program have to be open so I can get push notifications from 
Trillian or other events? 


  Can’t seem to get into the status menu using VO. 


  Your help is appreciated. 


  With Best regards,  


  Sadam Ahmed 


  Blog: 


  Http://www.SadamAhmed.com 


  Sent using OS X Mail 






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Re: Wow! What a Nice Little Utility!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I can't comment if this is the case or not, but one of my macs is on the El 
Capitan beta.  So, I'll give it a try.  If this does wind up being the case, 
that it won't work, I'll write the devs to make them aware, if they're not 
already.

Please note that I will not be discussing my findings nor my correspondances 
with the devs on this list.  You're just gonna have to take me at my word that 
I'll look into it.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Anders Holmberg 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
  Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Wow! What a Nice Little Utility!


  Hi!
  I can say that for me it does not work when  use it on the beta.
  So i guess i have to roll back evrything.
  /A

21 aug. 2015 kl. 04:43 skrev Portia Scott :


Hi Chris,


Clean my mac is really amazing. I definitely recommend it to anyone who 
doesn’t have it as well. It is worth the $39.99.


Warmest regards,


Portia.

  On Aug 20, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have 
got to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I didn't even 
know was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to finnish the clean 
process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be getting there.  It clames that 
there are about 3 gigs roughly that it can clean of just crap that I don't 
need.  Yes, I did look through what it's deleting.  I'm not that dumb.  LOL!

  I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I haven't 
used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left over, like PLists etc.

  Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! 
recommend this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, it's a little 
pricy, but for what it seems to be doing, it looks like it's going to prove to 
be fabulous!

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Trasferring file.

['Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all.
Is it possible to transfer a very large file, about 10 GB, from a mac 
computer to another one, via the internet, maybe using some terminal 
command?
I am lookingfor a solution which doesn't include a third party service 
like iCloud, Dropbox or whatever.


Thanks for any info.

Gabriel.

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Re: Trasferring file.

[Tyler Thompson]

If you want to do it with terminal you could use ftp. But you may find that it 
is possible to email this file (using mac mail). I’m not sure of your operating 
system but a while back apple put in mail drop to help with incredibly large 
files. I’m not sure if it’ll accommodate 10 gigs but it may be worth a shot.
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 08:15, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> Is it possible to transfer a very large file, about 10 GB, from a mac 
> computer to another one, via the internet, maybe using some terminal command?
> I am lookingfor a solution which doesn't include a third party service like 
> iCloud, Dropbox or whatever.
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> 
> Gabriel.
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Re: My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hey man, why not make a larger challenge? Try using IOS exclusively for 1 week. 
Good luck.
I’d love to hear your experiences.

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> So guys, maybe I am a bit of an extremest, however I have decided to take a 
> major challenge upon  myself.  So many people have said that I O S is at a 
> point where it could almost serve as a production based computer setup for 
> some people.  I decided, techy as I am, to take this challenge and see if 
> that is really the case for my daily lifestyle.  Does it mean that I am going 
> to use I O S exclusively from this point forward, and never use a computer 
> again?  Hell! no!  All I'm saying is, I wanted to really truely give the 
> mobile world a fair chance, and really take it to the extreme.
>  
> Therefore, for the next 24 hours, I am trying to stay off my pc as much as 
> humanly possible.  Obviously, if a customer of mine needs something done that 
> I find isn't working with I O S, then I'll hop on my mac or my PC, and get it 
> done, but even then, I won't do so unless it winds up being a very very last 
> resort.  I really am open-minded about wanting to try this and really see if 
> I truely can manage with only a mobile device, be it my IPhone, or my IPad to 
> do this.
>  
> This said, here is the first challenge I've hit.  I know that being you all 
> won't be able to see what I'm seeing first hand, it's going to make things a 
> bit difficult, but trust me when I say, this was a nightmare!
>  
> I am running a droplet on Digital Ocean of UBuntu 14.04 64 bit, Server.  On 
> here, I have followed the instructions posted by Nerd Vittles and have 
> installed Asterisk's Incredible PBX.  Tonight, I wanted to add an entry to my 
> main company IVR.  So, I grabbed my IPad, and went to the FreePBX admin web 
> interface.  I have IPTables installed locking it down to my IP address, so 
> even if I was to give you all the URL to go to, it wouldn't work for you 
> guys.  Just take my word for this.  The page loaded just fine, but first off, 
> I saw the link on this page to log into the ISynthany server, if I had one 
> configured, which I don't.  I also saw the button to load the user panel 
> login screen.  When I double tapped on this button however, I was presented 
> with a page telling me that Safari was unable to connect.  I know this is 
> baloni, as both my windows PC, as well as all 3 of my macs can connect with 
> absolutely no problem to that page.
>  
> So, I backed myself out, back to the main FreePBX page, and proceeded to look 
> for the link/button to log into the admin panel.  Try as I may however, the 
> link was nowhere to be found.  I know where the link should be on the page, 
> but neither touch exploration nor flicking would focus it.  Now, to be fair, 
> let me say this.  I do not know if the link was visibly there on the screen.  
> If I had to guess based on my touch exploration, I'd say it probably most 
> likely wasn't, but again, let's be totally fair.  I cannot prove this one way 
> or another.  I turned off, and back on Voiceover, which did entirely no good. 
>  I also tried using my item chooser list, which yielded nothing.  Finally, at 
> my whit's end, I turned my rotor to links, and found nothing, buttons, and 
> found nothing, and even form controls, and found nothing.
>  
> I tried this both with, and without a bluetooth keyboard.  So needless to 
> say, either the way that site is scripted/coded is just very very! 
> nonstandard, or Safari is just having a major fit with this web admin 
> interface.
>  
> Is this real common that you'll see web pages on the mobile side of things 
> not render well?  I even went so far as to click the icon that said show full 
> site, but that had no effect accessibility wise.  Is there maybe another 
> little trick I could try?
>  
> Yes, guilty as charged, I broke my challenge in this one case.  I didn't have 
> a choice being this was business related, and urgently had to be done.  So, I 
> just hopped on my mac and did it.  That really has sucked the fun out of me 
> though, as man!  I was so! looking forward to that working, and me being able 
> to be really impressed.  Unfortunately, not the case here.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Trasferring file.

[Scott Granados]

FTP or SCP are probably your friends here.

Enable an ftpd or sshd server on the destination side, create a user and copy 
files using that user.
If the computers are on the same network segment just use NFS or 
Apple’s networking support and copy the file.

Bottom line you have the full suite of unix tools available so this 
should be trivial to do.

Hope that helps.


> On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:15 AM, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> Is it possible to transfer a very large file, about 10 GB, from a mac 
> computer to another one, via the internet, maybe using some terminal command?
> I am lookingfor a solution which doesn't include a third party service like 
> iCloud, Dropbox or whatever.
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> 
> Gabriel.
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Re: Trasferring file.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Mail drop won’t do it. 

The limit is 5GB. 

With Best regards, 

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> On 26 Aug 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
> If you want to do it with terminal you could use ftp. But you may find that 
> it is possible to email this file (using mac mail). I’m not sure of your 
> operating system but a while back apple put in mail drop to help with 
> incredibly large files. I’m not sure if it’ll accommodate 10 gigs but it may 
> be worth a shot.
>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 08:15, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is it possible to transfer a very large file, about 10 GB, from a mac 
>> computer to another one, via the internet, maybe using some terminal command?
>> I am lookingfor a solution which doesn't include a third party service like 
>> iCloud, Dropbox or whatever.
>> 
>> Thanks for any info.
>> 
>> Gabriel.
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Re: My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1

[Scott Granados]

Chris, your problem is your tablet or phone doesn’t support flash.  Remember 
that the free PBX interface is based in flash if memory serves.  I remember the 
buttons you mention as being flash controls.  Webadmin itself isn’t flash based 
and you could access that with a direct URL deeper in to your platform but my 
gut feeling is you’re bumping in to the lack of flash.

Hope that helps.

P.S.  Good luck on your challenge.  I’ve been finding that my phone is taking 
more and more of my usage.


> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> So guys, maybe I am a bit of an extremest, however I have decided to take a 
> major challenge upon  myself.  So many people have said that I O S is at a 
> point where it could almost serve as a production based computer setup for 
> some people.  I decided, techy as I am, to take this challenge and see if 
> that is really the case for my daily lifestyle.  Does it mean that I am going 
> to use I O S exclusively from this point forward, and never use a computer 
> again?  Hell! no!  All I'm saying is, I wanted to really truely give the 
> mobile world a fair chance, and really take it to the extreme.
>  
> Therefore, for the next 24 hours, I am trying to stay off my pc as much as 
> humanly possible.  Obviously, if a customer of mine needs something done that 
> I find isn't working with I O S, then I'll hop on my mac or my PC, and get it 
> done, but even then, I won't do so unless it winds up being a very very last 
> resort.  I really am open-minded about wanting to try this and really see if 
> I truely can manage with only a mobile device, be it my IPhone, or my IPad to 
> do this.
>  
> This said, here is the first challenge I've hit.  I know that being you all 
> won't be able to see what I'm seeing first hand, it's going to make things a 
> bit difficult, but trust me when I say, this was a nightmare!
>  
> I am running a droplet on Digital Ocean of UBuntu 14.04 64 bit, Server.  On 
> here, I have followed the instructions posted by Nerd Vittles and have 
> installed Asterisk's Incredible PBX.  Tonight, I wanted to add an entry to my 
> main company IVR.  So, I grabbed my IPad, and went to the FreePBX admin web 
> interface.  I have IPTables installed locking it down to my IP address, so 
> even if I was to give you all the URL to go to, it wouldn't work for you 
> guys.  Just take my word for this.  The page loaded just fine, but first off, 
> I saw the link on this page to log into the ISynthany server, if I had one 
> configured, which I don't.  I also saw the button to load the user panel 
> login screen.  When I double tapped on this button however, I was presented 
> with a page telling me that Safari was unable to connect.  I know this is 
> baloni, as both my windows PC, as well as all 3 of my macs can connect with 
> absolutely no problem to that page.
>  
> So, I backed myself out, back to the main FreePBX page, and proceeded to look 
> for the link/button to log into the admin panel.  Try as I may however, the 
> link was nowhere to be found.  I know where the link should be on the page, 
> but neither touch exploration nor flicking would focus it.  Now, to be fair, 
> let me say this.  I do not know if the link was visibly there on the screen.  
> If I had to guess based on my touch exploration, I'd say it probably most 
> likely wasn't, but again, let's be totally fair.  I cannot prove this one way 
> or another.  I turned off, and back on Voiceover, which did entirely no good. 
>  I also tried using my item chooser list, which yielded nothing.  Finally, at 
> my whit's end, I turned my rotor to links, and found nothing, buttons, and 
> found nothing, and even form controls, and found nothing.
>  
> I tried this both with, and without a bluetooth keyboard.  So needless to 
> say, either the way that site is scripted/coded is just very very! 
> nonstandard, or Safari is just having a major fit with this web admin 
> interface.
>  
> Is this real common that you'll see web pages on the mobile side of things 
> not render well?  I even went so far as to click the icon that said show full 
> site, but that had no effect accessibility wise.  Is there maybe another 
> little trick I could try?
>  
> Yes, guilty as charged, I broke my challenge in this one case.  I didn't have 
> a choice being this was business related, and urgently had to be done.  So, I 
> just hopped on my mac and did it.  That really has sucked the fun out of me 
> though, as man!  I was so! looking forward to that working, and me being able 
> to be really impressed.  Unfortunately, not the case here.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Dictation commands on the Mac

[Karen Lewellen]

Thanks as always for your professionalism Anne.
Its something to consider.
Cheers,
Kare


On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Anne Robertson wrote:


Hello Kare,

Dictation has been available for quite some time, but enhanced dictation came 
in with Mavericks. However, I don’t think it was nearly as powerful as it is 
now.

I had no reason to look closely at dictation until a couple of weeks ago when a 
student of mine was unable to use the keyboard effectively and I had to find a 
solution for him. He was used to using the iPhone, so we worked out that a 
combination of dictation and the trackpad commander with just the occasional 
simple keyboard command would work for him.

Cheers,

Anne



On 24 Aug 2015, at 20:54, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Anne,

May I ask the earliest edition of os x for which dictation commands are 
included?
thanks,
Kare


On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Anne Robertson wrote:


Hello Wayne,

There are lots of dictation commands on the Mac. First, make sure that you have 
selected Use Enhanced Dictation in the Dictation & Speech pane of System 
preferences. Then go to the Accessibility pane and select Dictation in the 
Accessibility features table. Now click the Dictation Commands… button and you’ll 
find a table containing a long list of commands.
You can also assign your own commands to specific key combinations. I’ve found 
that selecting an application to which these should apply doesn’t seem to work. 
But selecting all applications does. So if you choose to add a command for 
Cmd-Shift-d, it will work for sending an e-mail and for opening the Desktop 
folder.

Cheers,

Anne


On 24 Aug 2015, at 18:37, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

All,
Are there any dictation commands on the mac? I haven't used Siri on my
iPhone 6 so far, mainly because I tend to talk softer and it can be
hard for Siri to understand what I am trying to say. I have tried
dictating to the Mac and there is no issue so far with it
understanding what I say. So are there any Siri like commands for the
Mac's dictation program? For instance, how would I dictate an email
address, to put it in the To field of Mail or another web-based email
message.

Thanks,
Wayne

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Re: Trasferring file.

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

If the other machine has "remote login" turned on in sharing and it's 
not behind a firewall then you should be able to use the sftp command 
from terminal to connect to the other machine and "put" the file 
directly. Many of the chat clients also support direct peer to peer file 
transfers.


CB

On 8/25/15 10:15 AM, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all.
Is it possible to transfer a very large file, about 10 GB, from a mac 
computer to another one, via the internet, maybe using some terminal 
command?
I am lookingfor a solution which doesn't include a third party service 
like iCloud, Dropbox or whatever.


Thanks for any info.

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Radio Broadcasting software.

[Sadam Ahmed]

All, 

Wondering if there’s an app I can use for Internet brodcasting? 

On the Windows side I’ve played with Station playlist studio. 

Would like to accomplish this in OS X if possible. 

As always any help is appreciated. 

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VO-compatible PDF readers

[waterwogster]

Hi.  I have a friend who is looking for VO-compatible pdf readers.  He 
needs to be able to read pdfs in calculus, biology and chemistry.  Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Trasferring file.

['Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries]

> Il giorno 25/ago/2015, alle ore 16:21, Scott Granados 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> FTP or SCP are probably your friends here.
> 
> Enable an ftpd or sshd server on the destination side, create a user and copy 
> files using that user.
>   If the computers are on the same network segment just use NFS or 
> Apple’s networking support and copy the file.
Hello and thanks.
I’m totally new to this kind of procedures.
I know to ask so much but, could you please provide a short step by step guide 
to set the sender’s and receiver’s ftp via the terminal?
Computer aren’t under the same network LAN, they’re in different cities 
connected to the internet. Both are running mac OS X.

Many, many thanks… I guess the procedure should be very interesting and useful 
to someone else too.
Gabriel.

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Re: VO-compatible PDF readers

[Scott Granados]

The Mac has several utilities built in including preview for PDF documents.  
You can also load them in to a package like Pages to read.

Hope that helps.

> On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:44 PM, waterwogs...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi.  I have a friend who is looking for VO-compatible pdf readers.  He needs 
> to be able to read pdfs in calculus, biology and chemistry.  Any suggestions 
> would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: the anti cleaning article

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hey Chris!
What does GOD have to do with this subject!?
This junk should be kept off list!
Ambassador for who???
For any clarification heres my contact info again!
Chuck


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 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he 
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In GOD I Trust

On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> You wrote:
> 
> Is it worth that risk for a
> whole 3 gb?
> 
> God damn straight it is!  Especially if you are as smart as you clame to be 
> Tylor, and first make a backup.  This way, if something goes boom, restore 
> the backup.  You should always do this anyway when doing maintanence.
> 
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> 
> - Original Message - From: "Littlefield, Tyler" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:00 AM
> Subject: Re: the anti cleaning article
> 
> 
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>> 
>> I have some good news for you--unless you're really dumb and start
>> installing stuff you shouldn't, or go to sites you shouldn't you don't
>> get viruses. Even more shocking is that generally this applies to
>> Windows as well.
>> 
>> The thing with cleaners, whether or not you want to believe the
>> article is that it can clean up cookies (which you can do from
>> safari). There are things it can wipe out, but when it starts messing
>> with ~Libraries and other important folders, you have a chance for
>> things to go wrong and they sometimes do. Is it worth that risk for a
>> whole 3 gb?
>> 
>> If you know the mac, you can just do that work yourself without the
>> risk. Otherwise I recommend you save $40 and just consider the 3 GB a
>> lost cause.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> The constantly sock-footed me.
>> 
>> On 8/21/2015 12:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> Red it, and, frankly, I don't buy it:  no pun intended.  This
>>> article reminded me rather too much of the crowd who stupidly and
>>> naively believes that Macs don't get viruses and thus don't need
>>> either anti virus or anti malware software.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> 
>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
>>> blind built-in
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Re: the anti cleaning article

[Scott Granados]

What’s new, between all the BS in the sigs and the quoted bible verses here and 
there it’s a whole religious fiction fest on any blindness related mailing list 
let alone this one. I bet if I started quoting Satanic verses in my sig or 
muslim references a good percentage on the list would get their panties in a 
twist but no if it’s Christian fiction then the rest of us in the real world 
have to have our noses rubbed in it.  Moderators should kick anyone off with 
more than a 2 line sig or who mentioned religion at all on a technical list.  
If this was a Christian list or some other equal waste of time and brain power 
then it would be fine but this is a computer list.  Knock it off already!

And I don’t trust imaginary characters of fiction.



> On Aug 25, 2015, at 1:12 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Chris!
> What does GOD have to do with this subject!?
> This junk should be kept off list!
> Ambassador for who???
> For any clarification heres my contact info again!
> Chuck
> 
> 
> CHUCK REICHEL
> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com 
> www.SoundPictureRecording.com 
> 954-742-0019
> Isaiah 26 : 3
>  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
> he trusteth in thee.
> 
> In GOD I Trust
> 
> On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> You wrote:
>> 
>> Is it worth that risk for a
>> whole 3 gb?
>> 
>> God damn straight it is!  Especially if you are as smart as you clame to be 
>> Tylor, and first make a backup.  This way, if something goes boom, restore 
>> the backup.  You should always do this anyway when doing maintanence.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> ---
>> Visit me online:
>> 
>> http://www.clgproductions.net 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Littlefield, Tyler" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: the anti cleaning article
>> 
>> 
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>> 
>>> I have some good news for you--unless you're really dumb and start
>>> installing stuff you shouldn't, or go to sites you shouldn't you don't
>>> get viruses. Even more shocking is that generally this applies to
>>> Windows as well.
>>> 
>>> The thing with cleaners, whether or not you want to believe the
>>> article is that it can clean up cookies (which you can do from
>>> safari). There are things it can wipe out, but when it starts messing
>>> with ~Libraries and other important folders, you have a chance for
>>> things to go wrong and they sometimes do. Is it worth that risk for a
>>> whole 3 gb?
>>> 
>>> If you know the mac, you can just do that work yourself without the
>>> risk. Otherwise I recommend you save $40 and just consider the 3 GB a
>>> lost cause.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> The constantly sock-footed me.
>>> 
>>> On 8/21/2015 12:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 Red it, and, frankly, I don't buy it:  no pun intended.  This
 article reminded me rather too much of the crowd who stupidly and
 naively believes that Macs don't get viruses and thus don't need
 either anti virus or anti malware software.
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
 blind built-in
 
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>>> pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc
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Re: the anti cleaning article

[Buddy Brannan]

I see the following:

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What a fantastic idea. See y'all kiddies later. Have fun in the sandbox. Or 
something. 
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> On Aug 25, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
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Re: the anti cleaning article

[Phil Halton]

Maybe you've noticed, there are no moderators on this list anymore. The best 
you can hope for is just to ignore stuff that bothers you. Or, if it's a 
persistent troller, just use your delete key. That's about all the relief 
you're going to get around here.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Aug 25, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> What’s new, between all the BS in the sigs and the quoted bible verses here 
> and there it’s a whole religious fiction fest on any blindness related 
> mailing list let alone this one. I bet if I started quoting Satanic verses in 
> my sig or muslim references a good percentage on the list would get their 
> panties in a twist but no if it’s Christian fiction then the rest of us in 
> the real world have to have our noses rubbed in it.  Moderators should kick 
> anyone off with more than a 2 line sig or who mentioned religion at all on a 
> technical list.  If this was a Christian list or some other equal waste of 
> time and brain power then it would be fine but this is a computer list.  
> Knock it off already!
> 
> And I don’t trust imaginary characters of fiction.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 1:12 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Chris!
>> What does GOD have to do with this subject!?
>> This junk should be kept off list!
>> Ambassador for who???
>> For any clarification heres my contact info again!
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> CHUCK REICHEL
>> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com
>> 954-742-0019
>> Isaiah 26 : 3
>>  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
>> he trusteth in thee.
>> 
>> In GOD I Trust
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> 
>>> You wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is it worth that risk for a
>>> whole 3 gb?
>>> 
>>> God damn straight it is!  Especially if you are as smart as you clame to be 
>>> Tylor, and first make a backup.  This way, if something goes boom, restore 
>>> the backup.  You should always do this anyway when doing maintanence.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> ---
>>> Visit me online:
>>> 
>>> http://www.clgproductions.net
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Littlefield, Tyler" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:00 AM
>>> Subject: Re: the anti cleaning article
>>> 
>>> 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 I have some good news for you--unless you're really dumb and start
 installing stuff you shouldn't, or go to sites you shouldn't you don't
 get viruses. Even more shocking is that generally this applies to
 Windows as well.
 
 The thing with cleaners, whether or not you want to believe the
 article is that it can clean up cookies (which you can do from
 safari). There are things it can wipe out, but when it starts messing
 with ~Libraries and other important folders, you have a chance for
 things to go wrong and they sometimes do. Is it worth that risk for a
 whole 3 gb?
 
 If you know the mac, you can just do that work yourself without the
 risk. Otherwise I recommend you save $40 and just consider the 3 GB a
 lost cause.
 
 Thanks,
 The constantly sock-footed me.
 
> On 8/21/2015 12:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> Red it, and, frankly, I don't buy it:  no pun intended.  This
> article reminded me rather too much of the crowd who stupidly and
> naively believes that Macs don't get viruses and thus don't need
> either anti virus or anti malware software.
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> 
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> blind built-in
> 
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Re: the anti cleaning article

[Scott Granados]

I was wondering about that.  I remember years ago this list was totally over 
moderated and it seems to have gone to the lack of moderation extreme.  I 
personally would prefer unmoderated so that’s fine with me, it’s just the hyper 
religiosity of the blind sometimes really pisses me off.  Probably contributes 
to our lower economic and cultural standing.

Ah well

I’m done, I’ve taken my medication and I apologize for being offensive if 
anyone was offended.


> On Aug 25, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Maybe you've noticed, there are no moderators on this list anymore. The best 
> you can hope for is just to ignore stuff that bothers you. Or, if it's a 
> persistent troller, just use your delete key. That's about all the relief 
> you're going to get around here.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> What’s new, between all the BS in the sigs and the quoted bible verses here 
>> and there it’s a whole religious fiction fest on any blindness related 
>> mailing list let alone this one. I bet if I started quoting Satanic verses 
>> in my sig or muslim references a good percentage on the list would get their 
>> panties in a twist but no if it’s Christian fiction then the rest of us in 
>> the real world have to have our noses rubbed in it.  Moderators should kick 
>> anyone off with more than a 2 line sig or who mentioned religion at all on a 
>> technical list.  If this was a Christian list or some other equal waste of 
>> time and brain power then it would be fine but this is a computer list.  
>> Knock it off already!
>> 
>> And I don’t trust imaginary characters of fiction.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 1:12 PM, CHUCK REICHEL >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Chris!
>>> What does GOD have to do with this subject!?
>>> This junk should be kept off list!
>>> Ambassador for who???
>>> For any clarification heres my contact info again!
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> CHUCK REICHEL
>>> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com 
>>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com 
>>> 954-742-0019
>>> Isaiah 26 : 3
>>>  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
>>> he trusteth in thee.
>>> 
>>> In GOD I Trust
>>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> 
 You wrote:
 
 Is it worth that risk for a
 whole 3 gb?
 
 God damn straight it is!  Especially if you are as smart as you clame to 
 be Tylor, and first make a backup.  This way, if something goes boom, 
 restore the backup.  You should always do this anyway when doing 
 maintanence.
 
 Chris.
 ---
 Visit me online:
 
 http://www.clgproductions.net 
 
 - Original Message - From: "Littlefield, Tyler" 
 mailto:ty...@tysdomain.com>>
 To: >>> >
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:00 AM
 Subject: Re: the anti cleaning article
 
 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> I have some good news for you--unless you're really dumb and start
> installing stuff you shouldn't, or go to sites you shouldn't you don't
> get viruses. Even more shocking is that generally this applies to
> Windows as well.
> 
> The thing with cleaners, whether or not you want to believe the
> article is that it can clean up cookies (which you can do from
> safari). There are things it can wipe out, but when it starts messing
> with ~Libraries and other important folders, you have a chance for
> things to go wrong and they sometimes do. Is it worth that risk for a
> whole 3 gb?
> 
> If you know the mac, you can just do that work yourself without the
> risk. Otherwise I recommend you save $40 and just consider the 3 GB a
> lost cause.
> 
> Thanks,
> The constantly sock-footed me.
> 
> On 8/21/2015 12:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> Red it, and, frankly, I don't buy it:  no pun intended.  This
>> article reminded me rather too much of the crowd who stupidly and
>> naively believes that Macs don't get viruses and thus don't need
>> either anti virus or anti malware software.
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> 
>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
>> blind built-in
>> 
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attachments

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
Are we allowed to send attachments to this list?  I have a pdf grocery store ad 
I need help with.  I may have asked this here before.  It is formatted 
strangely and I just wanted somebody else to take a look at it to see if sense 
can be made of.
Thanks,
Jim

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Re: the anti cleaning article

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Yes indeed, this list has gone from, at various stages of its life, totally 
noisy and idiotic, to totally over-regulated, veering back toward the noisy 
end.  I too am a great fan of the love-it-or-leave-it style of discussion, but 
there’s something to be said for having a person—possibly just one person—with 
a hand near to the levers that restore calm and order in times of imminent 
crisis.  This goes as well for practically any networked service, not just 
email lists.

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Re: Changing outgoing email address based on recipient?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

This used to work, at least for replies to a recipient.  But, as of Mavericks, 
they broke it.  I have the bug listed for reporting at some stage.  Now I just 
do as others do, i.e. just set the address manually.

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Re: the anti cleaning article

[E.T.]

   It only takes one person to throw a list like this into utter chaos. 
Removing that person permanently would return the list to a relatively 
peaceful and more focused environment.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 8/25/2015 11:49 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Yes indeed, this list has gone from, at various stages of its life, totally 
noisy and idiotic, to totally over-regulated, veering back toward the noisy 
end.  I too am a great fan of the love-it-or-leave-it style of discussion, but 
there’s something to be said for having a person—possibly just one person—with 
a hand near to the levers that restore calm and order in times of imminent 
crisis.  This goes as well for practically any networked service, not just 
email lists.



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Re: attachments

[Littlefield, Tyler]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Some lists filter attachments. Without an admin there's no way to know
either way--do you have Dropbox? You could post a public link.

On 8/25/2015 2:38 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
> Hi all! Are we allowed to send attachments to this list?  I have a
> pdf grocery store ad I need help with.  I may have asked this here
> before.  It is formatted strangely and I just wanted somebody else
> to take a look at it to see if sense can be made of. Thanks, Jim
> 


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Creating a playlist in iTunes

[Wayne Merritt]

Greetings. I would like to create a playlist in iTunes, add songs to
it, and have it synced with my iPhone 6. Can someone give me simple
steps for doing this? I am having problems adding songs to a playlist
on my iPhone and wondered if it would be easier to do on the Mac.

Thanks,
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RE: My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1

[george b]

And why would we care about this and why is it posted here

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 19:16
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1

 

So guys, maybe I am a bit of an extremest, however I have decided to take a 
major challenge upon  myself.  So many people have said that I O S is at a 
point where it could almost serve as a production based computer setup for some 
people.  I decided, techy as I am, to take this challenge and see if that is 
really the case for my daily lifestyle.  Does it mean that I am going to use I 
O S exclusively from this point forward, and never use a computer again?  Hell! 
no!  All I'm saying is, I wanted to really truely give the mobile world a fair 
chance, and really take it to the extreme.

 

Therefore, for the next 24 hours, I am trying to stay off my pc as much as 
humanly possible.  Obviously, if a customer of mine needs something done that I 
find isn't working with I O S, then I'll hop on my mac or my PC, and get it 
done, but even then, I won't do so unless it winds up being a very very last 
resort.  I really am open-minded about wanting to try this and really see if I 
truely can manage with only a mobile device, be it my IPhone, or my IPad to do 
this.

 

This said, here is the first challenge I've hit.  I know that being you all 
won't be able to see what I'm seeing first hand, it's going to make things a 
bit difficult, but trust me when I say, this was a nightmare!

 

I am running a droplet on Digital Ocean of UBuntu 14.04 64 bit, Server.  On 
here, I have followed the instructions posted by Nerd Vittles and have 
installed Asterisk's Incredible PBX.  Tonight, I wanted to add an entry to my 
main company IVR.  So, I grabbed my IPad, and went to the FreePBX admin web 
interface.  I have IPTables installed locking it down to my IP address, so even 
if I was to give you all the URL to go to, it wouldn't work for you guys.  Just 
take my word for this.  The page loaded just fine, but first off, I saw the 
link on this page to log into the ISynthany server, if I had one configured, 
which I don't.  I also saw the button to load the user panel login screen.  
When I double tapped on this button however, I was presented with a page 
telling me that Safari was unable to connect.  I know this is baloni, as both 
my windows PC, as well as all 3 of my macs can connect with absolutely no 
problem to that page.

 

So, I backed myself out, back to the main FreePBX page, and proceeded to look 
for the link/button to log into the admin panel.  Try as I may however, the 
link was nowhere to be found.  I know where the link should be on the page, but 
neither touch exploration nor flicking would focus it.  Now, to be fair, let me 
say this.  I do not know if the link was visibly there on the screen.  If I had 
to guess based on my touch exploration, I'd say it probably most likely wasn't, 
but again, let's be totally fair.  I cannot prove this one way or another.  I 
turned off, and back on Voiceover, which did entirely no good.  I also tried 
using my item chooser list, which yielded nothing.  Finally, at my whit's end, 
I turned my rotor to links, and found nothing, buttons, and found nothing, and 
even form controls, and found nothing.

 

I tried this both with, and without a bluetooth keyboard.  So needless to say, 
either the way that site is scripted/coded is just very very! nonstandard, or 
Safari is just having a major fit with this web admin interface.

 

Is this real common that you'll see web pages on the mobile side of things not 
render well?  I even went so far as to click the icon that said show full site, 
but that had no effect accessibility wise.  Is there maybe another little trick 
I could try?

 

Yes, guilty as charged, I broke my challenge in this one case.  I didn't have a 
choice being this was business related, and urgently had to be done.  So, I 
just hopped on my mac and did it.  That really has sucked the fun out of me 
though, as man!  I was so! looking forward to that working, and me being able 
to be really impressed.  Unfortunately, not the case here.

 

Chris.

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Re: attachments

[Jim Gatteys]

Now why didn't I think of that!
hope this works.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5759634/store%20ad.pdf

> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
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> Some lists filter attachments. Without an admin there's no way to know
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> 
> On 8/25/2015 2:38 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> Hi all! Are we allowed to send attachments to this list?  I have a
>> pdf grocery store ad I need help with.  I may have asked this here
>> before.  It is formatted strangely and I just wanted somebody else
>> to take a look at it to see if sense can be made of. Thanks, Jim
>> 
> 
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Re: My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1

[Yuma Decaux]

Man, there’s something called a blog for this type of stuff. My next challenge 
when I get so bored I got nothing else to do, I’ll try to make siri on my watch 
talk to siri on my ipad, and record the conversation with the dictation feature 
on my mac. I’ll write an applescript specifically for this challenge, and try 
to stream through http live streaming on youtube, vimeo, merecat, periscope and 
soundcloud. Oh boy, how much fun this is going to be. Watch out for my own siri 
challenge folks, I promise you a spectacular time and lots of laughs. And if 
you want a transcript of the conversation between my watch and my ipad, you 
will have to register through a challenging web page I will script. The person 
who can access the transcript receives a free copy of my next blog, the cooking 
pancakes with IOS challenge. Stay tuned, folks!



> On 26/08/2015, at 6:39 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> And why would we care about this and why is it posted here
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
> Gilland
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 19:16
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1
>  
> So guys, maybe I am a bit of an extremest, however I have decided to take a 
> major challenge upon  myself.  So many people have said that I O S is at a 
> point where it could almost serve as a production based computer setup for 
> some people.  I decided, techy as I am, to take this challenge and see if 
> that is really the case for my daily lifestyle.  Does it mean that I am going 
> to use I O S exclusively from this point forward, and never use a computer 
> again?  Hell! no!  All I'm saying is, I wanted to really truely give the 
> mobile world a fair chance, and really take it to the extreme.
>  
> Therefore, for the next 24 hours, I am trying to stay off my pc as much as 
> humanly possible.  Obviously, if a customer of mine needs something done that 
> I find isn't working with I O S, then I'll hop on my mac or my PC, and get it 
> done, but even then, I won't do so unless it winds up being a very very last 
> resort.  I really am open-minded about wanting to try this and really see if 
> I truely can manage with only a mobile device, be it my IPhone, or my IPad to 
> do this.
>  
> This said, here is the first challenge I've hit.  I know that being you all 
> won't be able to see what I'm seeing first hand, it's going to make things a 
> bit difficult, but trust me when I say, this was a nightmare!
>  
> I am running a droplet on Digital Ocean of UBuntu 14.04 64 bit, Server.  On 
> here, I have followed the instructions posted by Nerd Vittles and have 
> installed Asterisk's Incredible PBX.  Tonight, I wanted to add an entry to my 
> main company IVR.  So, I grabbed my IPad, and went to the FreePBX admin web 
> interface.  I have IPTables installed locking it down to my IP address, so 
> even if I was to give you all the URL to go to, it wouldn't work for you 
> guys.  Just take my word for this.  The page loaded just fine, but first off, 
> I saw the link on this page to log into the ISynthany server, if I had one 
> configured, which I don't.  I also saw the button to load the user panel 
> login screen.  When I double tapped on this button however, I was presented 
> with a page telling me that Safari was unable to connect.  I know this is 
> baloni, as both my windows PC, as well as all 3 of my macs can connect with 
> absolutely no problem to that page.
>  
> So, I backed myself out, back to the main FreePBX page, and proceeded to look 
> for the link/button to log into the admin panel.  Try as I may however, the 
> link was nowhere to be found.  I know where the link should be on the page, 
> but neither touch exploration nor flicking would focus it.  Now, to be fair, 
> let me say this.  I do not know if the link was visibly there on the screen.  
> If I had to guess based on my touch exploration, I'd say it probably most 
> likely wasn't, but again, let's be totally fair.  I cannot prove this one way 
> or another.  I turned off, and back on Voiceover, which did entirely no good. 
>  I also tried using my item chooser list, which yielded nothing.  Finally, at 
> my whit's end, I turned my rotor to links, and found nothing, buttons, and 
> found nothing, and even form controls, and found nothing.
>  
> I tried this both with, and without a bluetooth keyboard.  So needless to 
> say, either the way that site is scripted/coded is just very very! 
> nonstandard, or Safari is just having a major fit with this web admin 
> interface.
>  
> Is this real common that you'll see web pages on the mobile side of things 
> not render well?  I even went so far as to click the icon that said show full 
> site, but that had no effect accessibility wise.  Is there maybe another 
> li

how can I make custom audio files acceptible to Icloud?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,

This is weird.  When I first turned on Apple Music back when it first came out, 
I noticed that many custom albums which I had put together, (one especially 
being a collection of podcasts that I myself recorded) got uploaded to iCloud 
in Apple music.  However, other files did not.  I decided to try to solve the 
issue of certain collections of files labeled as being "ineligible" by iCloud 
by letting iTunes reencode the files as being .m4a at 256KBPS.  I compared the 
meta data of those files which got accepted with the files which, despite 
iTunes reencoding them as not being acceptible.  The data appears to be the 
same in the info window all throughout the files.  Still, problem not solved.  
Any advice?  I should mention that it's not a question of space, as I have more 
than enough.  Thansk.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

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Using Find Command in mail

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

I have never really found the need for it therefore have never used the find 
command in mail. I was attempting to show someone how to do this today, and was 
surprised that it did not work very well, at least not the way I use Find in my 
contacts. Does anyone use find a lot and if so what commands do use in mail and 
pages for it. In contacts i do a Command F type the persons name then hit tab 
to get to the name then use VO J to jump to that person’s contact card. Any 
help is greatly appreciated. Thanks,

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Re: My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1

[Daniel Miller]

I agree, this type of stuff would be more suited to a website 
or blog. I’ve never laughed so hard in my life lololololol at the response to 
this :)
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> 
> Man, there’s something called a blog for this type of stuff. My next 
> challenge when I get so bored I got nothing else to do, I’ll try to make siri 
> on my watch talk to siri on my ipad, and record the conversation with the 
> dictation feature on my mac. I’ll write an applescript specifically for this 
> challenge, and try to stream through http live streaming on youtube, vimeo, 
> merecat, periscope and soundcloud. Oh boy, how much fun this is going to be. 
> Watch out for my own siri challenge folks, I promise you a spectacular time 
> and lots of laughs. And if you want a transcript of the conversation between 
> my watch and my ipad, you will have to register through a challenging web 
> page I will script. The person who can access the transcript receives a free 
> copy of my next blog, the cooking pancakes with IOS challenge. Stay tuned, 
> folks!
> 
> 
> 
>> On 26/08/2015, at 6:39 AM, george b > > wrote:
>> 
>> And why would we care about this and why is it posted here
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>> Gilland
>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 19:16
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: My I O S 1 Day Challenge, Part 1
>>  
>> So guys, maybe I am a bit of an extremest, however I have decided to take a 
>> major challenge upon  myself.  So many people have said that I O S is at a 
>> point where it could almost serve as a production based computer setup for 
>> some people.  I decided, techy as I am, to take this challenge and see if 
>> that is really the case for my daily lifestyle.  Does it mean that I am 
>> going to use I O S exclusively from this point forward, and never use a 
>> computer again?  Hell! no!  All I'm saying is, I wanted to really truely 
>> give the mobile world a fair chance, and really take it to the extreme.
>>  
>> Therefore, for the next 24 hours, I am trying to stay off my pc as much as 
>> humanly possible.  Obviously, if a customer of mine needs something done 
>> that I find isn't working with I O S, then I'll hop on my mac or my PC, and 
>> get it done, but even then, I won't do so unless it winds up being a very 
>> very last resort.  I really am open-minded about wanting to try this and 
>> really see if I truely can manage with only a mobile device, be it my 
>> IPhone, or my IPad to do this.
>>  
>> This said, here is the first challenge I've hit.  I know that being you all 
>> won't be able to see what I'm seeing first hand, it's going to make things a 
>> bit difficult, but trust me when I say, this was a nightmare!
>>  
>> I am running a droplet on Digital Ocean of UBuntu 14.04 64 bit, Server.  On 
>> here, I have followed the instructions posted by Nerd Vittles and have 
>> installed Asterisk's Incredible PBX.  Tonight, I wanted to add an entry to 
>> my main company IVR.  So, I grabbed my IPad, and went to the FreePBX admin 
>> web interface.  I have IPTables installed locking it down to my IP address, 
>> so even if I was to give you all the URL to go to, it wouldn't work for you 
>> guys.  Just take my word for this.  The page loaded just fine, but first 
>> off, I saw the link on this page to log into the ISynthany server, if I had 
>> one configured, which I don't.  I also saw the button to load the user panel 
>> login screen.  When I double tapped on this button however, I was presented 
>> with a page telling me that Safari was unable to connect.  I know this is 
>> baloni, as both my windows PC, as well as all 3 of my macs can connect with 
>> absolutely no problem to that page.
>>  
>> So, I backed myself out, back to the main FreePBX page, and proceeded to 
>> look for the link/button to log into the admin panel.  Try as I may however, 
>> the link was nowhere to be found.  I know where the link should be on the 
>> page, but neither touch exploration nor flicking would focus it.  Now, to be 
>> fair, let me say this.  I do not know if the link was visibly there on the 
>> screen.  If I had to guess based on my touch exploration, I'd say it 
>> probably most likely wasn't, but again, let's be totally fair.  I cannot 
>> prove this one way or another.  I turned off, and back on Voiceover, which 
>> did entirely no good.  I also tried using my item chooser list, which 
>> yielded nothing.  Finally, at my whit's end, I turned my rotor to links, and 
>> found nothing, buttons, and found nothing, and even form controls, and found 
>> nothing.
>>  
>> I tried this both with, and without a bluetooth keyboard.  So needless to 
>> say, either the way that site is scripted/coded i

Re: attachments

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
Just posted a message with the link and forgot to include a comment.  I've 
noticed that when I load a file and open it with preview I usually have to turn 
off voiceover till the file loads to make it work properly.  This is 
problematic because if it is a large file I don't always know when it is 
loaded.  Are there better pdf readers for the mac?

It is so frustrating to have access finally to the store ads and then not be 
able to use them.
Thanks for any help.
Jim
  
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> On 8/25/2015 2:38 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> Hi all! Are we allowed to send attachments to this list?  I have a
>> pdf grocery store ad I need help with.  I may have asked this here
>> before.  It is formatted strangely and I just wanted somebody else
>> to take a look at it to see if sense can be made of. Thanks, Jim
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: Using Find Command in mail

[Alex Hall]

You'll want to use cmd-option-f, not cmd-f. If you do, as you type, you'll get 
a list of possibilities. For instance, if you type "test", a menu appears with 
options for mail whose subjects contain "test", or whose bodies contain the 
word. If you type a name, you'll get contact matches instead; left arrow to the 
start of the embedded text once you choose one, then vo-space, and you can pick 
"from" or "to". Once you play with the search field for a bit it makes sense, 
but it's unlike anything else on the Mac I've ever run into, so it takes 
getting used to.

In OS X 10.11, Apple promises you'll be able to search Spotlight for things 
like "mail sent to [some name] last Friday", so searches will get far easier. 
Hopefully that feature works as advertised, because even on a good day, Mail's 
search field can sometimes be noting but frustrating.
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I have never really found the need for it therefore have never used the find 
> command in mail. I was attempting to show someone how to do this today, and 
> was surprised that it did not work very well, at least not the way I use Find 
> in my contacts. Does anyone use find a lot and if so what commands do use in 
> mail and pages for it. In contacts i do a Command F type the persons name 
> then hit tab to get to the name then use VO J to jump to that person’s 
> contact card. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks,
> 
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Re: Using Find Command in mail

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Alex,

I knew there had to be something a little more to the find feature in mail, 
thanks for the explanation, going to test it out now
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> You'll want to use cmd-option-f, not cmd-f. If you do, as you type, you'll 
> get a list of possibilities. For instance, if you type "test", a menu appears 
> with options for mail whose subjects contain "test", or whose bodies contain 
> the word. If you type a name, you'll get contact matches instead; left arrow 
> to the start of the embedded text once you choose one, then vo-space, and you 
> can pick "from" or "to". Once you play with the search field for a bit it 
> makes sense, but it's unlike anything else on the Mac I've ever run into, so 
> it takes getting used to.
> 
> In OS X 10.11, Apple promises you'll be able to search Spotlight for things 
> like "mail sent to [some name] last Friday", so searches will get far easier. 
> Hopefully that feature works as advertised, because even on a good day, 
> Mail's search field can sometimes be noting but frustrating.
>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I have never really found the need for it therefore have never used the find 
>> command in mail. I was attempting to show someone how to do this today, and 
>> was surprised that it did not work very well, at least not the way I use 
>> Find in my contacts. Does anyone use find a lot and if so what commands do 
>> use in mail and pages for it. In contacts i do a Command F type the persons 
>> name then hit tab to get to the name then use VO J to jump to that person’s 
>> contact card. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>> 
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Re: Using Find Command in mail

[Brian Fischler]

Ok got that as it looks like Command Option F is a quicker way to launch the 
search feature from the toolbar. Now what about conducting a find for a certain 
word in an email you recived? I tried doing both Command F and Command Option F 
and neither seems to work. Thanks,
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> You'll want to use cmd-option-f, not cmd-f. If you do, as you type, you'll 
> get a list of possibilities. For instance, if you type "test", a menu appears 
> with options for mail whose subjects contain "test", or whose bodies contain 
> the word. If you type a name, you'll get contact matches instead; left arrow 
> to the start of the embedded text once you choose one, then vo-space, and you 
> can pick "from" or "to". Once you play with the search field for a bit it 
> makes sense, but it's unlike anything else on the Mac I've ever run into, so 
> it takes getting used to.
> 
> In OS X 10.11, Apple promises you'll be able to search Spotlight for things 
> like "mail sent to [some name] last Friday", so searches will get far easier. 
> Hopefully that feature works as advertised, because even on a good day, 
> Mail's search field can sometimes be noting but frustrating.
>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I have never really found the need for it therefore have never used the find 
>> command in mail. I was attempting to show someone how to do this today, and 
>> was surprised that it did not work very well, at least not the way I use 
>> Find in my contacts. Does anyone use find a lot and if so what commands do 
>> use in mail and pages for it. In contacts i do a Command F type the persons 
>> name then hit tab to get to the name then use VO J to jump to that person’s 
>> contact card. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>> 
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Re: renaming an account on the mac

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

The support page for  doing this is listed below. Let me know if you need 
voiceover guidance for this. 
Address Text field Is editing Word mode 
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201548 
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201548 selected


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Aug 22, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> both actually.
> 
>> On 8/22/2015 3:24 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>> Short name or full name? Full name should be fairly easy but the short name 
>> is also associated with the directory name.
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:07 AM, Sunshine  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to rename an account on the mac? if so how do you go about 
>>> doing this?
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Re: Using Find Command in mail

[Alex Hall]

For that, I'd just open the email like normal, and use vo-f to search. I find 
that to be the most reliable text search in any app, from Text Edit to Mail to 
Safari.
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Ok got that as it looks like Command Option F is a quicker way to launch the 
> search feature from the toolbar. Now what about conducting a find for a 
> certain word in an email you recived? I tried doing both Command F and 
> Command Option F and neither seems to work. Thanks,
>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> You'll want to use cmd-option-f, not cmd-f. If you do, as you type, you'll 
>> get a list of possibilities. For instance, if you type "test", a menu 
>> appears with options for mail whose subjects contain "test", or whose bodies 
>> contain the word. If you type a name, you'll get contact matches instead; 
>> left arrow to the start of the embedded text once you choose one, then 
>> vo-space, and you can pick "from" or "to". Once you play with the search 
>> field for a bit it makes sense, but it's unlike anything else on the Mac 
>> I've ever run into, so it takes getting used to.
>> 
>> In OS X 10.11, Apple promises you'll be able to search Spotlight for things 
>> like "mail sent to [some name] last Friday", so searches will get far 
>> easier. Hopefully that feature works as advertised, because even on a good 
>> day, Mail's search field can sometimes be noting but frustrating.
>>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I have never really found the need for it therefore have never used the 
>>> find command in mail. I was attempting to show someone how to do this 
>>> today, and was surprised that it did not work very well, at least not the 
>>> way I use Find in my contacts. Does anyone use find a lot and if so what 
>>> commands do use in mail and pages for it. In contacts i do a Command F type 
>>> the persons name then hit tab to get to the name then use VO J to jump to 
>>> that person’s contact card. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>>> 
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testing

[Littlefield, Tyler]

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a new macvisionaries list

[Littlefield, Tyler]

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Hello all:
I understand there's been a lot of mess on this list and at least two
people I know of have left--that's not counting however many vanished
without saying anything.

I believe this is a great community and I don't want to see it die off
or fall under the issues it has been. I understand a lot of us (this
includes me) are at fault to one extreme or another.

To this end and to try to preserve this community, I've started a new
list. I'd like to welcome everyone to join. Regardless of past posts
here and anything else, we start with a clean slate. There are a set
of well-defined rules; if you join and see something that needs to be
edited/added, please do let me know. Similarly, if you have questions,
please get in touch with me.

I will be the only moderator at present until everything is soarted
out, then I'd like to get someone else involved. I'll probably be
putting that call out shortly.

My personal address is ty...@tysdomain.com for any questions.
Also, the list information is as follows:
Subscribers can join the list by sending email to
macvisionaries-requ...@freelists.org
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visiting the list page at
http://www.freelists.org/list/macvisionaries

I hope that this will help. Plese feel free to get in touch with me.
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Re: a new macvisionaries list

['Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries]

Reply to the Littlefield, Tyler's message, wrote on 26/08/2015 at 05:29:

Hi, sorry but, maybe I lost something.
Why a new list?
What is going to happen to this one?
Thanks.
Gabriel.

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