Identifying styles in Word

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

Here is how to identify the current style in Word.

Cheers,

Anne

• Make sure you are focused on body text.
• Interact with the Home ribbon tab group.
• Navigate right to the Styles menu button and click it.
• In the pop over, navigate to the Styles Pane checkbox.
• Bring the mouse and click with the track pad (using VO-Space or 
VO-Shift-Space may give the impression that the box is ticked, but the styles 
task pane will not appear).
• Press Escape to get out of the pop over.
• Stop interacting with the ribbon.
• Navigate right to Styles Task Pane.
• Interact and navigate right to the scroll area.
• Interact with the scroll area.
• Navigate right once past Current style and set a hotspot on the menu button.
• You can now press VO-Cmd-Hotspot number within the body of the document to 
learn the current style.

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Re: How To Make Your Mac Chime When You Plug It In

[sadam ahmed]

Hello Alex, 

Thanks for sending this through. 

Just tried it on my 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro and it works well. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 17 Apr 2015, at 12:18 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I don't recall seeing those symbols in the command. It should be on its own 
> line; all the text on that line is what you want. Just copy it, open 
> Terminal, paste with cmd-v, and press enter. Done.
>> On Apr 16, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Deb Lewis > > wrote:
>> 
>> For clarification does the syntax include the Greater than and less
>> than symbols that are shown? I know sometimes symbolsare there to set
>> it off but not part of the syntax so asking before I jump into this.
>> 
>> On 4/16/15, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> Matt, remember that you need to be running 10.10.3. You also need to have
>>> the syntax precisely right, including the ampersand at the end, the
>>> semicolon, the capitalization, and so on. It may well not work on older
>>> machines, I'm not sure; I have a 2012 Air and it worked as expected, but I
>>> have no older Macs to test with.
 On Apr 16, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Jonathan Mosen >>> > wrote:
 
 I just did it on my 2013 Macbook Air and it works. It's pretty handy
 actually.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org  >
> On 17/04/2015, at 10:52 am, Matthew Dierckens  
> >> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if this only works on newer machines? When I did this command,
> it said, command not found.
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com  
> >
>> On Apr 16, 2015, at 17:33, Alex Hall > 
>> >> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I saw this today and thought it was pretty cool. I tried it, and it
>> worked; my Mac now plays the familiar chime we all know and love from
>> iOS when it gets plugged in. In other words, my phone and Mac now play
>> the same sound when I hook them to power. No, it's not necessary, but I
>> really like it and it's just one command I could undo if I ever wanted
>> to. Here's how to do this (remember, you need OS X 10.10.3 or newer):
>> http://www.cultofmac.com/319331/how-to-hack-the-new-macbook-power-chime-onto-the-macbook-air-pro/
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Developing an App

[Josh]

Hello All,

I need help finding an accessible program that will allow me to develop
apps. I have never done this so when I Googled the process I received tons
of results, but nothing saying whether it was accessible or not. Can anyone
direct me to where I would go to either listen to a step-by-step
demonstration on creating an app or somewhere that is going to provide
detailed instructions. Alternatively, if someone has the knowledge that they
would be willing to share with me regarding how they create apps on list or
off list on developing this app, read below for description, then I would
love to hear the ideas. Offlist address:

lawdog...@comcast.net

Description of what I am wanting to do:   

  I am looking to develop an app for my institution where I can have people
post anonymous questions to the app and have others respond to the
questions. The disability department there are concerned that not everyone
is receiving the attention that they need due to not wanting to identify
themselves as having a disability. I feel that the app will accomplish this
goal. There apps out there like I am wanting to create such as YikYak, but
the rules will not be as liberal on the app I am wanting to create as they
are on YikYak. Thank you all for any advice you can offer on this matter.


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Re: Developing an App

[Jeff Berwick]

I am currently developing my first app using Phonegap/Cordova.  Basically, you 
develop an HTML5 web page using HTML5, CSS and Javascript and then phone gap 
will turn it into a native app by wrapping your code in a web browser container.

You would probably then create a web service on your server to connect to a 
database and pass the information back and forth.

Phonegap/Cordova is very well documented and used, so you should be able to 
find anything you need on the internet.

Hth,
Jeff

> On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Josh  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> I need help finding an accessible program that will allow me to develop apps. 
> I have never done this so when I Googled the process I received tons of 
> results, but nothing saying whether it was accessible or not. Can anyone 
> direct me to where I would go to either listen to a step-by-step 
> demonstration on creating an app or somewhere that is going to provide 
> detailed instructions. Alternatively, if someone has the knowledge that they 
> would be willing to share with me regarding how they create apps on list or 
> off list on developing this app, read below for description, then I would 
> love to hear the ideas. Offlist address:
> lawdog...@comcast.net 
> Description of what I am wanting to do:   
>   I am looking to develop an app for my institution where I can have people 
> post anonymous questions to the app and have others respond to the questions. 
> The disability department there are concerned that not everyone is receiving 
> the attention that they need due to not wanting to identify themselves as 
> having a disability. I feel that the app will accomplish this goal. There 
> apps out there like I am wanting to create such as YikYak, but the rules will 
> not be as liberal on the app I am wanting to create as they are on YikYak. 
> Thank you all for any advice you can offer on this matter.
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Re: office preview for mac?

[Mike Busboom]

Hi. I am wondering why the product is referred to as Office Preview.  Is it 
because it isn’t yet available as a full-fledged functioning program?

Does anyone know if Word works on an iPhone with a bluetooth keyboard, or does 
it just work on the Mac?

Best to all,

Mike
> On 22,Apr,2015, at 19:23, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> You can download the preview from:
> 
> http://products.office.com/en-AU/mac/mac-preview.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 23/04/2015 1:02 AM, george b wrote:
>> Google office for mac
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliph
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 04:38
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: office preview for mac?
>> 
>> Sorry, joined this thread late.  Anyone have the download link for the 
>> office preview for mac?  Thanks.
>> 
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PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[sadam ahmed]

Hello all, 

I believe this app was mentioned recently. 

I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for said app: 

http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html. 

Just want to make sure it’s the correct one? 

It costs $124 at least from the website. 

Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store? 

Thanks for any help provided. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Blog: 

Http://SadamAhmed.com 

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RE: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[george b]

That is it

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of sadam ahmed
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 06:57
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

 

Hello all, 

 

I believe this app was mentioned recently. 

 

I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for said app: 

 

http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html. 

 

Just want to make sure it’s the correct one? 

 

It costs $124 at least from the website. 

 

Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store? 

 

Thanks for any help provided. 

 

Kind regards, 

 

Sadam Ahmed 

 

Blog: 

 

Http://SadamAhmed.com 

 

Sent from my 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro 

 

 

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RE: office preview for mac?

[george b]

that is correct it is part of their steps in the testing process

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mike Busboom
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 06:51
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: office preview for mac?


Hi. I am wondering why the product is referred to as Office Preview.  Is it 
because it isn’t yet available as a full-fledged functioning program?

Does anyone know if Word works on an iPhone with a bluetooth keyboard, or does 
it just work on the Mac?

Best to all,

Mike
> On 22,Apr,2015, at 19:23, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> You can download the preview from:
> 
> http://products.office.com/en-AU/mac/mac-preview.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 23/04/2015 1:02 AM, george b wrote:
>> Google office for mac
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliph
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 04:38
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: office preview for mac?
>> 
>> Sorry, joined this thread late.  Anyone have the download link for the 
>> office preview for mac?  Thanks.
>> 
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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Eugenia Firth]

Yes, it is the right web site although you probably don’t need the support 
section yet if you have already decided to get the program. I think you can 
download a trial version first. There is PDF Pen and PDF Pen Pro. I got the pro 
version. With it, you can convert pdf files to text files, Excel files, and 
Word files. Maybe there are some others; I can’t remember. 

Gigi 

> On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:56 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hello all, 
> 
> I believe this app was mentioned recently. 
> 
> I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for said app: 
> 
> http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html 
> . 
> 
> Just want to make sure it’s the correct one? 
> 
> It costs $124 at least from the website. 
> 
> Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store? 
> 
> Thanks for any help provided. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
> Blog: 
> 
> Http://SadamAhmed.com  
> 
> Sent from my 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro 
> 
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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi George,

Thanks for the quick response!

I've heard some good things about the above app. Because I work with 
some PDF documents for college it will come in handy for those times 
when a lecturer sends me a PDF document.


What a disappointment Adobe DC for the Mac   turned out to be.

Thanks once again!

Kind regards,

Sadam Ahmed

On 4/25/2015 12:07 AM, George b wrote:


That is it

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *sadam ahmed

*Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2015 06:57
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

Hello all,

I believe this app was mentioned recently.

I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for 
said app:


http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html.

Just want to make sure it’s the correct one?

It costs $124 at least from the website.

Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store?

Thanks for any help provided.

Kind regards,

Sadam Ahmed

Blog:

Http://SadamAhmed.com

Sent from my 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro

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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Sadam 
If you get the program, please be aware that, to my knowledge, you need to read 
pages with PDF Pen page by page by interacting with each one individually. You 
want to make sure you get version 7.1; I say that because if you go to the app 
store, I’m not sure version is available from it. 

Gigi 

> On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi George, 
> 
> Thanks for the quick response! 
> 
> I've heard some good things about the above app. Because I work with some PDF 
> documents for college it will come in handy for those times when a lecturer 
> sends me a PDF document. 
> 
> What a disappointment Adobe DC for the Mac   turned out to be. 
> 
> Thanks once again! 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 4/25/2015 12:07 AM, George b wrote:
>> That is it
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of sadam ahmed
>> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 06:57
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.
>>  
>> Hello all, 
>>  
>> I believe this app was mentioned recently. 
>>  
>> I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for said app: 
>>  
>> http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html 
>> . 
>>  
>> Just want to make sure it’s the correct one? 
>>  
>> It costs $124 at least from the website. 
>>  
>> Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store? 
>>  
>> Thanks for any help provided. 
>>  
>> Kind regards, 
>>  
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>>  
>> Blog: 
>>  
>> Http://SadamAhmed.com  
>>  
>> Sent from my 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro 
>>  
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Re: Developing an App

[Alex Hall]

The first two questions are: do you have a Mac for this, and do you already 
know some programming? If you don't have a Mac, you will be hard pressed to do 
a lot; if you don't know any programming, I'd start learning basic concepts 
first, then start learning Swift.
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Josh  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> I need help finding an accessible program that will allow me to develop apps. 
> I have never done this so when I Googled the process I received tons of 
> results, but nothing saying whether it was accessible or not. Can anyone 
> direct me to where I would go to either listen to a step-by-step 
> demonstration on creating an app or somewhere that is going to provide 
> detailed instructions. Alternatively, if someone has the knowledge that they 
> would be willing to share with me regarding how they create apps on list or 
> off list on developing this app, read below for description, then I would 
> love to hear the ideas. Offlist address:
> lawdog...@comcast.net 
> Description of what I am wanting to do:   
>   I am looking to develop an app for my institution where I can have people 
> post anonymous questions to the app and have others respond to the questions. 
> The disability department there are concerned that not everyone is receiving 
> the attention that they need due to not wanting to identify themselves as 
> having a disability. I feel that the app will accomplish this goal. There 
> apps out there like I am wanting to create such as YikYak, but the rules will 
> not be as liberal on the app I am wanting to create as they are on YikYak. 
> Thank you all for any advice you can offer on this matter.
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Re: Developing an App

[Tyler Thompson]

Some clarification is necessary before you can receive any real answers to this 
question. First of all it appears to me you want this to be web based. Writing 
web apps or even websites is immensely different than writing an application 
that runs on iOS or OS X. App development (both kinds of apps that I’ve 
mentioned above) has been my job now for several years.

Now on a very basic level it sounds to me like you just want a forum that 
allows for anonymous posting. Developing this yourself requires a lot of skill 
because as soon as you allow people to write information on your server you are 
allowing for all kinds of injection attacks. If I were you and I was trying to 
accomplish this goal I’d look at using some pre-made forums from developers who 
have been doing it for years and have sealed up all the security breeches 
you’re bound to leave open if you attempt this yourself without experience.

If you’re looking to develop this on the mac or the iPhone you’ve just 
restricted your user-base to apple people. Now I love apple people but your 
email eludes that you need anybody from any device to be able to ask a 
question, that means you simply must have it be a web app. If you have any  
more questions please feel free to contact me on or off the list.
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Josh  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> I need help finding an accessible program that will allow me to develop apps. 
> I have never done this so when I Googled the process I received tons of 
> results, but nothing saying whether it was accessible or not. Can anyone 
> direct me to where I would go to either listen to a step-by-step 
> demonstration on creating an app or somewhere that is going to provide 
> detailed instructions. Alternatively, if someone has the knowledge that they 
> would be willing to share with me regarding how they create apps on list or 
> off list on developing this app, read below for description, then I would 
> love to hear the ideas. Offlist address:
> lawdog...@comcast.net 
> Description of what I am wanting to do:   
>   I am looking to develop an app for my institution where I can have people 
> post anonymous questions to the app and have others respond to the questions. 
> The disability department there are concerned that not everyone is receiving 
> the attention that they need due to not wanting to identify themselves as 
> having a disability. I feel that the app will accomplish this goal. There 
> apps out there like I am wanting to create such as YikYak, but the rules will 
> not be as liberal on the app I am wanting to create as they are on YikYak. 
> Thank you all for any advice you can offer on this matter.
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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi Gigi,

Thanks for that.

I'll probably get   the Pro  version.

Did you purchase from the website or directly from the Mac app Store?

What about VoiceOver support?

I.E. Does the whole program work with VO?

Thanks once again!

Kind regards,

Sadam Ahmed

On 4/25/2015 12:19 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
Yes, it is the right web site although you probably don’t need the 
support section yet if you have already decided to get the program. I 
think you can download a trial version first. There is PDF Pen and PDF 
Pen Pro. I got the pro version. With it, you can convert pdf files to 
text files, Excel files, and Word files. Maybe there are some others; 
I can’t remember.


Gigi

On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:56 AM, sadam ahmed > wrote:


Hello all,

I believe this app was mentioned recently.

I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for 
said app:


http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html.

Just want to make sure it’s the correct one?

It costs $124 at least from the website.

Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store?

Thanks for any help provided.

Kind regards,

Sadam Ahmed

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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there 
I don’t think we can do everything there is in the program because this program 
has some sophisticated things for editing and writing pdf files. You could, 
however, train a reader that has Mac experience to do some of the things that 
we can’t do. 

ONe of the main people there has been answering my VoiceOver questions. His 
name is Greg, and he is interested in us giving feedback on the program. 

I got it from the app store, but sometimes updates come out a little faster 
from the we b site. Also, if there is a reason the program doesn’t work for 
you, it’s harder to get a refund if you go through the app store, although I 
guess you could. 

Gigi 

> On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gigi, 
> 
> Thanks for that. 
> 
> I'll probably get   the Pro  version. 
> 
> Did you purchase from the website or directly from the Mac app Store? 
> 
> What about VoiceOver support?  
> 
> I.E. Does the whole program work with VO? 
> 
> Thanks once again! 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed   
> 
> On 4/25/2015 12:19 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> Yes, it is the right web site although you probably don’t need the support 
>> section yet if you have already decided to get the program. I think you can 
>> download a trial version first. There is PDF Pen and PDF Pen Pro. I got the 
>> pro version. With it, you can convert pdf files to text files, Excel files, 
>> and Word files. Maybe there are some others; I can’t remember. 
>> 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:56 AM, sadam ahmed >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all, 
>>> 
>>> I believe this app was mentioned recently. 
>>> 
>>> I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for said 
>>> app: 
>>> 
>>> http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html 
>>> . 
>>> 
>>> Just want to make sure it’s the correct one? 
>>> 
>>> It costs $124 at least from the website. 
>>> 
>>> Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help provided. 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards, 
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed 
>>> 
>>> Blog: 
>>> 
>>> Http://SadamAhmed.com  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro 
>>> 
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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi Gigi,

Thanks for the info regarding this app. It's  greatly appreciated.

I'll endeavour to purchase from the  website in that case. ( And make 
sure I pick up version 7.1).


Best wishes,

Sadam Ahmed

On 4/25/2015 12:28 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

Hi Sadam
If you get the program, please be aware that, to my knowledge, you 
need to read pages with PDF Pen page by page by interacting with each 
one individually. You want to make sure you get version 7.1; I say 
that because if you go to the app store, I’m not sure version is 
available from it.


Gigi

On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Sadam Ahmed > wrote:


Hi George,

Thanks for the quick response!

I've heard some good things about the above app. Because I work with 
some PDF documents for college it will come in handy for those times 
when a lecturer sends me a PDF document.


What a disappointment Adobe DC for the Mac   turned out to be.

Thanks once again!

Kind regards,

Sadam Ahmed

On 4/25/2015 12:07 AM, George b wrote:

That is it
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]*On 
Behalf Of*sadam ahmed

*Sent:*Friday, April 24, 2015 06:57
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:*PDF Pen reader for the Mac.
Hello all,
I believe this app was mentioned recently.
I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for 
said app:

http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html.
Just want to make sure it’s the correct one?
It costs $124 at least from the website.
Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store?
Thanks for any help provided.
Kind regards,
Sadam Ahmed
Blog:
Http://SadamAhmed.com 
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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi again.
I forgot to say that it has a very fast image OCR on it. If you have a pdf file 
that is an image, it automatically OCR’s the thing. The other thing is that 
Greg told me that a sighted person could, and I forgot exactly how he said to 
do this, go into an inaccessible file and rename the form fields. If you open a 
file that is not set up for us, and you tell the program to find the form 
fields, they don’t have names we can recognize; they are numbered. A sighted 
person can go in there and rename the fields. At least, that’s the way I 
understood it. 

Gigi 

> On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gigi, 
> 
> Thanks for the info regarding this app. It's  greatly appreciated. 
> 
> I'll endeavour to purchase from the  website in that case. ( And make sure I 
> pick up version 7.1).  
> 
> Best wishes, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
> On 4/25/2015 12:28 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> Hi Sadam 
>> If you get the program, please be aware that, to my knowledge, you need to 
>> read pages with PDF Pen page by page by interacting with each one 
>> individually. You want to make sure you get version 7.1; I say that because 
>> if you go to the app store, I’m not sure version is available from it. 
>> 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Sadam Ahmed >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi George, 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the quick response! 
>>> 
>>> I've heard some good things about the above app. Because I work with some 
>>> PDF documents for college it will come in handy for those times when a 
>>> lecturer sends me a PDF document. 
>>> 
>>> What a disappointment Adobe DC for the Mac   turned out to be. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks once again! 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards, 
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> 
>>> On 4/25/2015 12:07 AM, George b wrote:
 That is it
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  
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 ] On Behalf Of sadam ahmed
 Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 06:57
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Subject: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.
  
 Hello all, 
  
 I believe this app was mentioned recently. 
  
 I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for said 
 app: 
  
 http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html 
 . 
  
 Just want to make sure it’s the correct one? 
  
 It costs $124 at least from the website. 
  
 Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store? 
  
 Thanks for any help provided. 
  
 Kind regards, 
  
 Sadam Ahmed 
  
 Blog: 
  
 Http://SadamAhmed.com  
  
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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

Hello Gigi, 

Thanks for your comprehensive feedback regarding PDF pen pro. 

Have yourself a wonderful day! 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 25 Apr 2015, at 1:06 am, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi again.
> I forgot to say that it has a very fast image OCR on it. If you have a pdf 
> file that is an image, it automatically OCR’s the thing. The other thing is 
> that Greg told me that a sighted person could, and I forgot exactly how he 
> said to do this, go into an inaccessible file and rename the form fields. If 
> you open a file that is not set up for us, and you tell the program to find 
> the form fields, they don’t have names we can recognize; they are numbered. A 
> sighted person can go in there and rename the fields. At least, that’s the 
> way I understood it. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gigi, 
>> 
>> Thanks for the info regarding this app. It's  greatly appreciated. 
>> 
>> I'll endeavour to purchase from the  website in that case. ( And make sure I 
>> pick up version 7.1).  
>> 
>> Best wishes, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>>> On 4/25/2015 12:28 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> Hi Sadam 
>>> If you get the program, please be aware that, to my knowledge, you need to 
>>> read pages with PDF Pen page by page by interacting with each one 
>>> individually. You want to make sure you get version 7.1; I say that because 
>>> if you go to the app store, I’m not sure version is available from it. 
>>> 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
 On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
 
 Hi George, 
 
 Thanks for the quick response! 
 
 I've heard some good things about the above app. Because I work with some 
 PDF documents for college it will come in handy for those times when a 
 lecturer sends me a PDF document. 
 
 What a disappointment Adobe DC for the Mac   turned out to be. 
 
 Thanks once again! 
 
 Kind regards, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
> On 4/25/2015 12:07 AM, George b wrote:
> That is it
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sadam ahmed
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 06:57
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.
>  
> Hello all, 
>  
> I believe this app was mentioned recently. 
>  
> I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for said 
> app: 
>  
> http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html. 
>  
> Just want to make sure it’s the correct one? 
>  
> It costs $124 at least from the website. 
>  
> Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store? 
>  
> Thanks for any help provided. 
>  
> Kind regards, 
>  
> Sadam Ahmed 
>  
> Blog: 
>  
> Http://SadamAhmed.com 
>  
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>  
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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I believe that the app mentioned is actually pdfpenpro, and, yes this is 
available in the MacApp Store.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 24, 2015, at 07:56, sadam ahmed  wrote:

Hello all, 

I believe this app was mentioned recently. 

I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for said app: 

http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html 
. 

Just want to make sure it’s the correct one? 

It costs $124 at least from the website. 

Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store? 

Thanks for any help provided. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Blog: 

Http://SadamAhmed.com  

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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hello Tim,

Thanks for the clarification.

Have a great day.

Sadam Ahmed

On 4/25/2015 1:45 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I believe that the app mentioned is actually pdfpenpro, and, yes this 
is available in the MacApp Store.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 24, 2015, at 07:56, sadam ahmed > wrote:


Hello all,

I believe this app was mentioned recently.

I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for 
said app:


http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html.

Just want to make sure it’s the correct one?

It costs $124 at least from the website.

Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store?

Thanks for any help provided.

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Sadam Ahmed

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how to use the pdf pen to edit

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

good day to all, i do have the pdf pen trial version, i would like to 
fill up some form using pdf pen trial version but how can i do it?
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Re: Developing an App

[Scott Berry]

Hi Josh,

Do you even have any idea of what language you want to develop in?  This might 
be a good app for a web site where someone can go to a certain link on the web 
site type their question in and then someone else can go to the web site and 
answer.  Another way might be to do the same with html and have an email sent 
with the question and one replies to the email and therefore posts it on the 
web site and an email.

d
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> Hello All,
> I need help finding an accessible program that will allow me to develop apps. 
> I have never done this so when I Googled the process I received tons of 
> results, but nothing saying whether it was accessible or not. Can anyone 
> direct me to where I would go to either listen to a step-by-step 
> demonstration on creating an app or somewhere that is going to provide 
> detailed instructions. Alternatively, if someone has the knowledge that they 
> would be willing to share with me regarding how they create apps on list or 
> off list on developing this app, read below for description, then I would 
> love to hear the ideas. Offlist address:
> lawdog...@comcast.net 
> Description of what I am wanting to do:   
>   I am looking to develop an app for my institution where I can have people 
> post anonymous questions to the app and have others respond to the questions. 
> The disability department there are concerned that not everyone is receiving 
> the attention that they need due to not wanting to identify themselves as 
> having a disability. I feel that the app will accomplish this goal. There 
> apps out there like I am wanting to create such as YikYak, but the rules will 
> not be as liberal on the app I am wanting to create as they are on YikYak. 
> Thank you all for any advice you can offer on this matter.
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for Check Writing Software

[Mary Jo Partyka]

I contacted Premier Technologies a few months agao to see if they had a version 
of Talking Checkbook for the Mac.  They said they don’t even support this piece 
of software and don’t know of anything for the Mac. If there is something 
available to write out  hecks, I would also be interested in finding out about 
it.


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> All;
> 
> I’ve been using Talking Checkbook for check writing on my Windows PC for 
> about 10 years.  However with my migration to Mac I’m wondering if any 
> similar software is available for Macs?
> 
> Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
> * * * * * * * * *
> Bill Gallik
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for Check Writing Software

[Alex Hall]

I'm going to ask a possibly stupid question: how does this work? I assume it 
has to print onto the check somehow? Or is it something else?
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
> 
> I contacted Premier Technologies a few months agao to see if they had a 
> version of Talking Checkbook for the Mac.  They said they don’t even support 
> this piece of software and don’t know of anything for the Mac. If there is 
> something available to write out  hecks, I would also be interested in 
> finding out about it.
> 
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com
> 
> 
>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>> 
>> All;
>> 
>> I’ve been using Talking Checkbook for check writing on my Windows PC for 
>> about 10 years.  However with my migration to Mac I’m wondering if any 
>> similar software is available for Macs?
>> 
>> Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
>> * * * * * * * * *
>> Bill Gallik
>> wfgal...@icloud.com
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for Check Writing Software

[The Believer]

   There is CheckBook by Splasm Software, and they also have a Pro 
version. Both are fully functional. The Pro costs more but the non Pro 
is not a limited version, just does not have features most may not need 
anyway.


   I have yet to work with this app. Its a checkbook register but 
likely can also print checks (the Pro version probably).


   The trial version will allow entry of up to 100 entries (or perhaps 
only 10) so worth testing before you pay for it.


From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 4/24/2015 11:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

I'm going to ask a possibly stupid question: how does this work? I
assume it has to print onto the check somehow? Or is it something else?

On Apr 24, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Mary Jo Partyka mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I contacted Premier Technologies a few months agao to see if they had
a version of Talking Checkbook for the Mac.  They said they don’t even
support this piece of software and don’t know of anything for the Mac.
If there is something available to write out  hecks, I would also be
interested in finding out about it.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com 



On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:

All;

I’ve been using Talking Checkbook for check writing on my Windows PC
for about 10 years.  However with my migration to Mac I’m wondering
if any similar software is available for Macs?

Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
* * * * * * * * *
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for Check Writing Software

[Mary Jo Partyka]

Hi,

The way Talking Checkbook worked was that we had to order a box of check forms 
which contained our account number and other identifying information.  After 
putting one of these fors in the printer, we would go to the talking checkbook 
program and press control n to write a new check.  The fields would be spoken 
aloud and you would fill them in.  After the fields are filled in, you can 
print the check.


Mary Jo Partyka
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> On Apr 24, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I'm going to ask a possibly stupid question: how does this work? I assume it 
> has to print onto the check somehow? Or is it something else?
>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Mary Jo Partyka > > wrote:
>> 
>> I contacted Premier Technologies a few months agao to see if they had a 
>> version of Talking Checkbook for the Mac.  They said they don’t even support 
>> this piece of software and don’t know of anything for the Mac. If there is 
>> something available to write out  hecks, I would also be interested in 
>> finding out about it.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>>> 
>>> All;
>>> 
>>> I’ve been using Talking Checkbook for check writing on my Windows PC for 
>>> about 10 years.  However with my migration to Mac I’m wondering if any 
>>> similar software is available for Macs?
>>> 
>>> Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
>>> * * * * * * * * *
>>> Bill Gallik
>>> wfgal...@icloud.com
>>> 
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Re: Developing an App

['Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all.
I’d like to learn to develop application for Mac OS using Python.
Do you know some good guide to start?
Thanks.
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Re: how to use the pdf pen to edit

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there  
If you want to practice, you want to get a form that is accessible for us. For 
sure, you could play around with some of the IRS forms, even if you don’t want 
to send in any taxes. Go to www.irs.gov  and find 
accessibility. One of the choices is pdf forms. To do the check boxes, you are 
probably going to need to go using vo arrow keys. Using the tab key won’t get 
you into check boxes. I made Greg aware of this, and he is going to work on 
getting that corrected. In the meantime, just mess with it to find the check 
boxes. 

Gigi 

> On Apr 24, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
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>   good day to all, i do have the pdf pen trial version, i would like to 
> fill up some form using pdf pen trial version but how can i do it?
> Thanks
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Re: problems with aidrop again.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok, sorry for my stupidness.
Thanks.
/A
> 22 apr 2015 kl. 18:17 skrev Alex Hall :
> 
> There's no OK button. You find the device in the table, route the mouse there 
> with vo-cmd-f5, then click with vo-shift-space to initiate the transfer.
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I can’t  seem to send things via airdrop from my mac to my iphone.
>> I am trying to rout the mouse to the voiceover pointer but thats not working 
>> properly.
>> No ok button found.
>> Just cancel.
>> Any thoughts on this?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> /A
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Re: Adware warning!

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

So far, I only install software from Apple although when Microsoft Office comes 
out I'll be getting it.  I'll investigate virus anti software in due course.  
However, I only go to safe websites and touch wood, have not had any problems 
to date but you don't know what is round the corner.  Just be careful where you 
browse etc.

Kawal.
On 24 Apr 2015, at 01:02, Joe Quinn  wrote:

That's why I just got booth programs now, will test accessibility when i get to 
the mac.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:59 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> The Adware menace has, unfortunately, spread to the Mac, yes.
> 
> The good news is that, right now, there are fairly few strains of the stuff, 
> and AdwareMedic is a very good bet on its removal.  Antivirus software 
> typically doesn’t identify adware because, while obnoxious in the extreme, it 
> isn’t actually malicious—at least, not in the sense of actually being harmful 
> to your computer.
> 
> The bad news is that, like Windows users, you are no longer insulated by 
> obscurity against your own misjudgement.  Install software only from 
> reputable sources; do not download from any site other than that which 
> officially distributes the software.  In general this means that you do not 
> download from any repository, such as a download site, but get the software 
> directly from the project’s own web page, typically the page of the author.  
> Naturally, if you trust Apple, one obvious way to seal things tight is only 
> to install from the Mac App Store, or only to install Apple-signed software.  
> In any event, do not install software merely because you were asked to do so 
> by any message coming from within your web browser.  In case of doubt, ask 
> questions.
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Re: Wow!!!! apple watch is on its way.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I get my Sports model on Monday 27th although I was expecting mine in June so 
this was a pleasant surprise as I purchased mine on the 15th.

Kawal.
On 24 Apr 2015, at 01:45, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Enjoy!  I'll be anxious to hear about your experiences.  I'll post mind as soon 
as I can.
Cheers,
Donna
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> Yes. I too have received notice that my two watches will be arriving 
> tomorrow, despite one of them previously being marked for much later. Makes a 
> nice change, that—I was way too late to preorder the iPhone 6 Plus. Guess the 
> secret is: get in early.
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Re: Wow!!!! apple watch is on its way.

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

The Apple Watch app allows extensive configuration.  This is just as well, 
because it would be too onerous if done from the watch face.  The effect is 
also very pretty: once configured, it’s ready for you to use immediately.

My watch is at last configured, and free from the continued need to use the 
iPhone.  All that is required is to keep the two on the same Wi-Fi network.  
Tomorrow I will explore the apps from the watch itself, in depth.

My first major comments and warnings to potential buyers are:

Reserve power mode is inaccessible.  Hardly surprising, of course, but still a 
disappointment.

Siri on the watch is apparently not exclusive from the phone; the contacts are 
synced from your phone, so Siri must be on on your phone too.  That means I 
can’t use it, because I can’t leak contacts to Apple.

The wrist-raise detection is way too sensitive.  I turned off announcements in 
Accessibility settings.  It doesn’t affect the display, but you can’t turn off 
wrist detection completely without disrupting Apple Pay, so it’s as good as 
it’s going to get.

The user guide is available here so you can get into all the details:
http://help.apple.com/watch

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Re: Developing an App

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have a question.
Where to start if i want to begin programming non web apps.
I don’t know any programming but am willing to learn.
/A
> 24 apr 2015 kl. 16:56 skrev Tyler Thompson :
> 
> Some clarification is necessary before you can receive any real answers to 
> this question. First of all it appears to me you want this to be web based. 
> Writing web apps or even websites is immensely different than writing an 
> application that runs on iOS or OS X. App development (both kinds of apps 
> that I’ve mentioned above) has been my job now for several years.
> 
> Now on a very basic level it sounds to me like you just want a forum that 
> allows for anonymous posting. Developing this yourself requires a lot of 
> skill because as soon as you allow people to write information on your server 
> you are allowing for all kinds of injection attacks. If I were you and I was 
> trying to accomplish this goal I’d look at using some pre-made forums from 
> developers who have been doing it for years and have sealed up all the 
> security breeches you’re bound to leave open if you attempt this yourself 
> without experience.
> 
> If you’re looking to develop this on the mac or the iPhone you’ve just 
> restricted your user-base to apple people. Now I love apple people but your 
> email eludes that you need anybody from any device to be able to ask a 
> question, that means you simply must have it be a web app. If you have any  
> more questions please feel free to contact me on or off the list.
>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Josh > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> I need help finding an accessible program that will allow me to develop 
>> apps. I have never done this so when I Googled the process I received tons 
>> of results, but nothing saying whether it was accessible or not. Can anyone 
>> direct me to where I would go to either listen to a step-by-step 
>> demonstration on creating an app or somewhere that is going to provide 
>> detailed instructions. Alternatively, if someone has the knowledge that they 
>> would be willing to share with me regarding how they create apps on list or 
>> off list on developing this app, read below for description, then I would 
>> love to hear the ideas. Offlist address:
>> lawdog...@comcast.net 
>> Description of what I am wanting to do:   
>>   I am looking to develop an app for my institution where I can have people 
>> post anonymous questions to the app and have others respond to the 
>> questions. The disability department there are concerned that not everyone 
>> is receiving the attention that they need due to not wanting to identify 
>> themselves as having a disability. I feel that the app will accomplish this 
>> goal. There apps out there like I am wanting to create such as YikYak, but 
>> the rules will not be as liberal on the app I am wanting to create as they 
>> are on YikYak. Thank you all for any advice you can offer on this matter.
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Re: Wow!!!! apple watch is on its way.

[Donna Goodin]

Hello,

So I'm traveling currently and thus can't look at the user guide that you 
posted. Can I begin setting up my Apple Watch simply by pairing it with my 
iPhone?
Thanks,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> The Apple Watch app allows extensive configuration.  This is just as well, 
> because it would be too onerous if done from the watch face.  The effect is 
> also very pretty: once configured, it’s ready for you to use immediately.
> 
> My watch is at last configured, and free from the continued need to use the 
> iPhone.  All that is required is to keep the two on the same Wi-Fi network.  
> Tomorrow I will explore the apps from the watch itself, in depth.
> 
> My first major comments and warnings to potential buyers are:
> 
> Reserve power mode is inaccessible.  Hardly surprising, of course, but still 
> a disappointment.
> 
> Siri on the watch is apparently not exclusive from the phone; the contacts 
> are synced from your phone, so Siri must be on on your phone too.  That means 
> I can’t use it, because I can’t leak contacts to Apple.
> 
> The wrist-raise detection is way too sensitive.  I turned off announcements 
> in Accessibility settings.  It doesn’t affect the display, but you can’t turn 
> off wrist detection completely without disrupting Apple Pay, so it’s as good 
> as it’s going to get.
> 
> The user guide is available here so you can get into all the details:
> http://help.apple.com/watch
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Re: Wow!!!! apple watch is on its way.

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

If you have the watch and the phone, yes you can get started immediately.

The user guide is linked from the Apple Watch app if you need it.  It is 
recommended reading. :)

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organising by threaded conversations on Mac

[Daniel McGee]

Hi all, for those who may use threaded conversation view on the mac, are there 
any tips on how you would use it effectively?
For example, I can tell if a thread is unread but am unable to tell how many 
messages are unread. Once, I've opened it.

Just really share with me how you would use this on the mac because I've sort 
of gotten use to it on the iphone now and would like to try and do so on the 
mac as well.

Using OS X Yosemite V10.10.3 
Thanks in advance for any experiences you may share.

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Re: Wow!!!! apple watch is on its way.

[Donna Goodin]

He's right, it is very easy to set up.  Do most of it from your phone, but you 
can also do stuff fairly easily from the watch.  I haven't had much time 
tonight, so mostly just focused on getting everything paired up, and doing some 
tweaking of settings.  Looking forward to putting it through its paces tomorrow.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> If you have the watch and the phone, yes you can get started immediately.
> 
> The user guide is linked from the Apple Watch app if you need it.  It is 
> recommended reading. :)
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Re: Wow!!!! apple watch is on its way.

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

This comes up every now and then.

Short answer is that the list is what folks make of it.

Long answer is that the name is probably a bit of an anachronisim at 
this point. The list was founded years before iPhone OS became iOS and 
then became accessible with VoiceOver. So as more and more folks became 
iOS users the overlap with the existing Mac Voiceover users was an 
obvious extension. Today we have another shift as folks embrace the 
latest Apple gadget into the ecosystem and the marketplace of ideas 
shifts into high gear. We'll find discussions of various scanners, 
headsets and other devices folks hook up to their machine. A few even 
venture Jaws questions as more Windows folks come over to the Mac but 
bring their virtualized windows as a safety net as they come up to speed 
on voiceover. In some ways the list is self selecting or self limiting. 
If somebody dives to far into Windows land or goes too far down a rabbit 
hole nobody will bother to answer and the thread just dies. So for me 
it's all about Macs and their fun cousins that make the whole family 
rich and interesting. Not sure we're there yet but Apple's push is for 
the cloud, rather than the desktop, to be your digital hub. The 
expectation is the desktop/laptop will fade over time such that 
continuously connected devices will be our main means of consumption and 
composition.


CB

On 4/23/15 5:21 PM, Sagar wrote:

hello all!
May I just ask? whats the apple watch subject doing here?
cause this is a mac mailing list.
  mac and apple watch are to different products.
this has nothing to do with the mac.

thanks.


sincerely,
Sagar,
Sent using OS X


On 24 Apr 2015, at 5:09 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

Yes. I too have received notice that my two watches will be arriving tomorrow, 
despite one of them previously being marked for much later. Makes a nice 
change, that—I was way too late to preorder the iPhone 6 Plus. Guess the secret 
is: get in early.

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Re: Adware warning!

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Good to know. My parents just got fooled. They say that there was some 
popup that said their flash was out of date and to download an updater. 
Well, they went ahead and did that but it wasn't the real Flash updater. 
So now every time they click a link it opens a new browser tab to some 
other malware download stuff, pops up giant ads and other annoyances. 
This included the obligatory "call this number for help" which they did 
but at least they stopped before actually handing over their credit card 
number. The tipoff to them was that the 'tech support company' wasn't 
actually Apple. I think they had wanted $150 to 'fix' their machine.


From what I read, under the hood the malware actually uses some unix 
tricks to attach itself to the browsers process (Safari, Chrome or 
Firefox) and intercept all the requests so they can modify the links on 
the fly. Pretty sneaky. From this Apple article it sounds like you can 
sometimes wipe it out just by doing a major OS upgrade:


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202225

They were on OSX 10.8 so I had them start downloading/installing 10.10 
last night and it was still going earlier today. If that doesn't work 
I'll run through the steps here to try and kill of the badness:


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203987

They apparently got MacKeeper installed which is not a good thing. I 
found this recent article talking about how Malware does it's thing on 
OSX and that we're going to find more of it migrating from Windows:


http://www.howtogeek.com/210589/mac-os-x-isn’t-safe-anymore-the-crapware-malware-epidemic-has-begun/

I'll keep adwaremedic.com in mind if my other attempts fail. Thanks for 
the timely info.


CB

On 4/23/15 6:54 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

I want you all to know about something I just experienced.
I was on Twitter within Safari and a “critical service warning” popped 
up, informing me that a malicious virus had been detected and had 
attacked my system, and that “we have shut down all of your critical 
systems to protect any further damage.” The warning went on to give 
this number:

888 553-4193
and directed me to give a number starting with Mac and ending with 
several digits.

My BS detector was on full alert.
I called Apple and told them what was going on. I was informed that 
this occurs several times a day at least, and that it usually involves 
adware.
When a screen sharing session link was sent, Safari could not find the 
server, nor could Google Chrome.
I was then told to open the MacBook in safe mode, and I thought I 
could use VoiceOver in safe mode, but it would not come on, and 
command F5 would not bring it up.
The tech support rep handed me over to someone who had more VoiceOver 
experience. He had me shut down and restart normally, then sent me the 
ability to screen share by using my apple ID, which made the screen 
sharing like an application, which enabled me to go to adwaremedic.com 
, download adware medic, and run it.
This problem appears to be resolved, but I wanted you all to be aware 
of this incident, as well as to inquire: Isn’t there a way to use 
VoiceOver in safe mode?
Thank you . . . and be careful out there. I was told people have been 
known to give their credit card numbers to these people thinking they 
are getting their computers fixed.

Christine

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Re: office preview for mac, Reading by Word??

[Sean Murphy]

Hello,


There are many people on this list who have got it to work. What version are 
you using? Make sure you are using the latest before bashing their first beta 
release. It isn’t bug free but at least MS is stepping up to the plate to 
address the accessibility issues.

The version Version 15.9.0 (150408) is what I have on my machine. I don’t have 
the link at hand but it has been published multiple times on this list. Do a 
search in the archives and I am sure you will find it.

Those who help themselves will be helped in turned.
Sean 
> On 24 Apr 2015, at 3:32 am, Maurice Mines  wrote:
> 
> Good morning list, in response to this I can’t get Microsoft Word preview for 
> the Mac to work at all. Should I be just uninstalling it until this program 
> actually does something other than take up space on my hard drive? Because so 
> far I do the program and the Microsoft Office preview as a whole is 
> completely inaccessible which is about par for the course with this 
> particular kind of software. Unless someone can prove to me, and/or show me 
> that this is a viable product for anyone who is totally blind using the Mac 
> in the future. Any thoughts?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice mines.
> message number 505-369-3283.
> Note the text of this email that I have written, has been updated by using 
> Dragon 4.0 for the Mac. If there are any errors in the text of this message, 
> they are the result of either the software or the detention dictation process.
>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> A thought i got, isn’t there a setting in Voiceover where you make the 
>> cursor behave like it does in Windows rather than how it behaves on the Mac? 
>> What if you made an activity where you turned this behaviour on or if it’s 
>> on turn it off?
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 22 apr 2015 kl. 22:59 skrev Anne Robertson :
>>> 
>>> Editing in Word is Weird. When I do Option-Right Arrow, then just Right 
>>> Arrow alone, it reads each letter of the word I just thought I’d jumped 
>>> over. Also, Option-Left Arrow apparently takes me to the left of the word 
>>> before the one I thought I’d jumped over.
>>> 
>>> I also have insertion point issues, but not consistently. Several times, 
>>> I’ve pasted text only to find it’s in the wrong place.
>>> 
>>> As I said in a previous message, I haven’t used Word since Word 5, so I 
>>> don’t know how many of the oddities are standard behaviour for Word.
>>> 
>>> Also, the spell check almost works, but VO doesn’t read the word in 
>>> question! And has anyone figured out how to change the font? I opened a 
>>> blank document and the font was set to Calibri and although I found the 
>>> combo box, the menu showed me nothing.
>>> 
>>> I haven’t reported anything yet as I’m still feeling my way around it. I 
>>> tried to insert a table, but the command was dimmed, and although I had 
>>> words in my document, the word count said zero. This was strange because 
>>> when I was working on my translation, the word count etc worked fine.
>>> 
>>> Also, when I worked on my translation, Word said it was in Compatibility 
>>> mode but I couldn’t discover where this was set.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the ramble.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 22 Apr 2015, at 22:31, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 This seems to be an issue at the end of the line.  It's been reported by 
 other users on this list.  I have tried this and I can reproduce this 
 problem  At the end of the line the word reads twice when you land on it 
 and when you vo+arrow to the next line.  It makes me feel quite insecure 
 in the sense that I don't know which line I'm in.  Sometimes i have to go 
 back a word and forward again to make sure I've read the wrod word right.
 
 I've reported it via the "feedback" option in Word itself but maybe if you 
 have the number or e-mail for microsoft office accessibility it would 
 certainly be worth reporting.  We must continue the pressure on microsoft 
 since its release of a promising product.
 
 Andrew
> On 22 Apr 2015, at 18:44, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hello,
> In the latest Office Preview for Mac, I cannot get Option Right Arrow to 
> read word by word.
> Option Left Arrow does seem to be reading prior words.
> I'm just wondering if this is specific to my system or has anyone tried 
> this out?
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: office preview for mac, Reading by Word??

[Sean Murphy]

There are some minor issues with navigation by word. That is if you have a word 
with a punctuation at the end. VO reads it twice when moving by opt left or 
right arrow. If the word is at the end of the line. VO will read out the word 
twice and then the punctuation when using opt left or right arrow.

In print view mode, you cannot navigate between pages by using the up and down 
arrow. You have to be in web or draft view modes.

Styles are not detected yet.

I cannot move by page either. Otherwise I have been successful in creating a 
document that is a page in half for my purposes.

Sean 
> On 24 Apr 2015, at 3:56 am, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anne,
> 
> Yes, I can see what you mean.  It seems that in Word, Voiceover reports the 
> word in front of the cursor rather than the word which the cursor has just 
> passed when you move forward through the text with option+arrow key.  
> However, when you move through the words backwards, Voiceover will report the 
> words that the cursor has just passed.  I wonder whether it has something to 
> do with the way some screen readers on Windows work, like for instance Jaws.  
> This is going to take some getting used to.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 21:59, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Editing in Word is Weird. When I do Option-Right Arrow, then just Right 
>> Arrow alone, it reads each letter of the word I just thought I’d jumped 
>> over. Also, Option-Left Arrow apparently takes me to the left of the word 
>> before the one I thought I’d jumped over.
>> 
>> I also have insertion point issues, but not consistently. Several times, 
>> I’ve pasted text only to find it’s in the wrong place.
>> 
>> As I said in a previous message, I haven’t used Word since Word 5, so I 
>> don’t know how many of the oddities are standard behaviour for Word.
>> 
>> Also, the spell check almost works, but VO doesn’t read the word in 
>> question! And has anyone figured out how to change the font? I opened a 
>> blank document and the font was set to Calibri and although I found the 
>> combo box, the menu showed me nothing.
>> 
>> I haven’t reported anything yet as I’m still feeling my way around it. I 
>> tried to insert a table, but the command was dimmed, and although I had 
>> words in my document, the word count said zero. This was strange because 
>> when I was working on my translation, the word count etc worked fine.
>> 
>> Also, when I worked on my translation, Word said it was in Compatibility 
>> mode but I couldn’t discover where this was set.
>> 
>> Sorry for the ramble.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 22:31, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This seems to be an issue at the end of the line.  It's been reported by 
>>> other users on this list.  I have tried this and I can reproduce this 
>>> problem  At the end of the line the word reads twice when you land on it 
>>> and when you vo+arrow to the next line.  It makes me feel quite insecure in 
>>> the sense that I don't know which line I'm in.  Sometimes i have to go back 
>>> a word and forward again to make sure I've read the wrod word right.
>>> 
>>> I've reported it via the "feedback" option in Word itself but maybe if you 
>>> have the number or e-mail for microsoft office accessibility it would 
>>> certainly be worth reporting.  We must continue the pressure on microsoft 
>>> since its release of a promising product.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 In the latest Office Preview for Mac, I cannot get Option Right Arrow to 
 read word by word.
 Option Left Arrow does seem to be reading prior words.
 I'm just wondering if this is specific to my system or has anyone tried 
 this out?
 Thanks.
 
 
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RE: organising by threaded conversations on Mac

[M. Taylor]

Hello Daniel,

The way I use OSX Mail, which does have VoiceOver state how many messages are 
in the thread, is to use the Standard layout, as opposed to the Classic layout. 
 As I have never used the Classic layout, I don’t know if there is a way in 
which to hear how many messages are in a thread.  Classic layout users will 
have to chime in on that.  

I am, without a doubt, the number one fan of the Standard layout, with the 
Preview Pane enabled.

In my never-to-be humble opinion, I think that it is the single best feature in 
OSX in terms of processing hundreds and hundreds of emails in a matter of mere 
moments.  

Just so you know, the Standard layout of the Mail app in OSX is the default 
layout.  In my experience, I have found that over 95% of the Macs I come 
across, owned by sighted users, adopt this configuration in the mail app.  The 
advantage to me is that I, being intimately comfortable with this layout, have 
absolutely no problem in supporting them or in quickly moving to a new Mac, if 
only temporarily. 

Using the Standard layout, from the View menu, select Organize by Conversation, 
then select Collapse all Conversations.  

That should get you started.  

Good Luck and Enjoy,

Mark


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: organising by threaded conversations on Mac

Hi all, for those who may use threaded conversation view on the mac, are there 
any tips on how you would use it effectively?
For example, I can tell if a thread is unread but am unable to tell how many 
messages are unread. Once, I've opened it.

Just really share with me how you would use this on the mac because I've sort 
of gotten use to it on the iphone now and would like to try and do so on the 
mac as well.

Using OS X Yosemite V10.10.3 
Thanks in advance for any experiences you may share.

Daniel

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